Watchobsessiondotorg has video of the confrontation between Robert Spencer and Mohammed Lufti, “Honor member of CAIR”.
I’m assuming the guy from CAIR showed up to tell us how muslims aren’t all fundamentalist that would kill their own family members to preserve “islamic honor”.
| Watch it all. After Mohammed Lufti gets caught in a lie he let’s his guard down and admits support for both Hamas and Hezbollah. See Atlas Shrugs for a peek into who else he sympathizes with. |
A friend of mine sent me a link to a youtube video of Arab Fest 2009 in Dearborn, Michigan. Dearborn is home to the largest concentration of Arabs outside of the Middle East. Watch the 10 minute long video and then tell me why those of us who are concerned about our country NOT becoming another EUrabia have nothing to worry about.
These people obviously do not care about or believe in the rights all Americans have and are guaranteed under our glorious constitution.
This is why some of us do not want a muslim invasion like has happened in most of Europe to happen in our great country.
Hat tip to Mike MacDonald
It is apparent that both American and British societies don’t have the will to defeat Islamic Imperialism. After 9/11, Bush allowed millions of Muslims like Albanians, Bosnians, Arabs, Somalis and Pakistanis to enter America. Our politicians and society treat Muslims with more respect than they do other immigrant groups like Hispanics and Asians. Turn on any comedy show and you will see Hispanics, Asians and Indians mocked, but Muslims never are. Muslim groups are allowed to come here and call for overthrowing the government, preach hate in their mosques and walk around in their ridiculous outfits. This is a sign of a nation that has lost the will to resist its natural enemy: Islam. The UK is even worse with its Sharia Courts and appeasement of Muslims.
To prove my point I will link to 2 articles that are describing the weakening morale in America and Britain. There are now calls for talking with the Taliban.
A concerted effort to start unprecedented talks between Taliban, British and American envoys was outlined yesterday in a significant change in tactics designed to bring about a breakthrough in the attritional, eight-year conflict in Afghanistan.
Senior ministers and commanders on the ground believe they have created the right conditions to open up a dialogue with “second-tier” local leaders now the Taliban have been forced back in a swath of Helmand province.
Read the Rest.
This is an example of 2 Societies that can’t stomach loses in a fight for survival. How pathetic.
Most Britons believe the increasingly bloody war in Afghanistan is “unwinnable” and want troops pulled out, a poll suggested on Tuesday, as more soldiers’ bodies were flown home.
The dead servicemen were set to be honoured a day after the government announced the end of a deadly offensive in southern Afghanistan and outlined a change of strategy there following a sharp spike in deaths.
Foreign Secretary David Miliband signalled on Monday that Britain would back talking to moderate Taliban representatives in a bid to isolate militant insurgents who have killed 191 British troops since 2001.
Read the rest.
The UK is finished. They cry like babies when soldiers die and allow Muslims, who are 3% of the population, to rule over them. This is not the Britain that took on the Nazis by themselves before the US came into WW2. It is a weak nation and society like the rest of Europe is.
America is not that much better. Granted, there are parts of the country that understand and there still is a remnant of people that understand Islam. However, I find most Americans, including many Conservatives, to be stupid on Islam. I’ve talked to Conservatives that claim to be anti-Jihad and Pro-Israel, yet they support Albanians and Bosnians against Serbians. This is hypocrisy and these people think that because these Muslims are European they are different. A Muslim is a Muslim, end of story. Is not a Nazi a Nazi? How can you be for the Muslims against Serbia, but support the Israelis against the Muslims? How can you be angry at what the Chinese did to the Uighurs, yet be mad 9/11. It is hypocrisy and stupidity.
I am done posting on Islam. I am going to focus on Obama. For many years I have been explaining to people about Islam being an Arabic Imperialist Movement disguised as a religion. It doesn’t matter since Americans selectively hate some Muslims, but like others. I am done trying to convince people about Islam. When the next terror attack happens on American soil, don’t cry to me about it. I am just focusing on the lunacy of the left.
I have given up and this is the last time I will ever discuss Islam. I hate Islam with all the bones of my body. The same way Jews hate Nazis. In real life I give Muslims no respect and I tell them to their face I despise them. The Muslims tried to exterminate my ancestors, I lost 2 friends on 9/11 and saw it with my own eyes. Americans live in a fantasy world that people are good. The world is evil and evil must be destroyed. Until Americans learn to hate Evil, we will never defeat our enemies. God bless my Spaniard ancestors who resisted Islam and exterminated that evil movement from our land.
Wake up America!
Update: After reading the posts here I have decided to continue to discuss the evil Totalitarian Arab Imperialist Movement known as Islam.
50 Muslim organizations join call to drop Robert Spencer as speaker on an American Library Association panel
CAIR: Library Group Panelists Withdraw Over Role of Islam-Basher
Coalition of 50 Muslim organizations joins call to drop Robert Spencer as speaker
CHICAGO, July 11 /PRNewswire-USNewswire/ — The Chicago office of the Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR-Chicago) today announced that all other panelists scheduled to speak at an American Library Association (ALA) annual conference session on stereotyping of Islam have withdrawn in protest over the participation of Robert Spencer, one of the nation’s leading Islam-bashers.
The Council on Islamic Organizations of Greater Chicago (CIOGC), a coalition of more than 50 Muslim organizations, also joined CAIR-Chicago, the other ALA panelists and a number of librarians and academics in calling on ALA to drop Spencer from the July 12 panel titled “Perspectives on Islam: Beyond the Stereotyping.”
Spencer is the publisher of the anti-Islam Internet hate site “Jihad Watch.” The independent national media watch group Fairness & Accuracy in Reporting (FAIR) identifies him as one of “America’s leading Islamophobes” who systematically “spread fear, bigotry, and misinformation.” A FAIR special report, called “Smearcasters,” provides examples of Spencer’s Islamophobic views.
No, they don’t. Their examples are of Spencer stating the truth:
Of course, the devil can quote scripture for his own purpose, but Osama’s use of these and other passages in his messages is consistent (as we shall see) with traditional understanding of the Quran. When modern-day Jews and Christians read their Bibles, they simply don’t interpret the passages cited as exhorting them to violent actions against unbelievers. This is due to the influence of centuries of interpretative traditions that have moved them away from literalism regarding these passages. But in Islam, there is no comparable interpretative tradition.
Unfortunately, however, jihad as warfare against non-believers in order to institute “Sharia” worldwide is not propaganda or ignorance, or a heretical doctrine held by a tiny minority of extremists. Instead, it is a constant element of mainstream Islamic theology. (Jihad Watch, 3/3/07)
Yep.
In his letters to the ALA, CAIR-Chicago Executive Director Ahmed Rehab emphasized that the issue is not censorship, but is instead about the need for the ALA to take responsibility for its misrepresentation of the event to the panelists and the public.
Sure it is.
Spencer recently supported a conference in Florida featuring Dutch anti-Islam politician Geert Wilders.
Oh no! Well, that settles it.
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Hit Charles HARD, Robert!
Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs wrote a series of frenzied, nakedly mendacious posts in April about this Pro Köln meeting — I replied here and here. His charges relied heavily upon one’s accepting the existence of that great unicorn, the pro-Israel neo-Nazi, a strange animal that Johnson professes to see virtually everywhere.
As far as my connection to all this goes, in reality I do not support, have never supported, would never support, and never will support any racist, fascist, or neo-Nazi groups. What’s more, I did not go to Cologne or address the Pro Köln rally. If speakers are now responsible for the views of every group that invites them to speak, even if they decline the invitation, then let me make things even more interesting by inviting the wretched Johnson and Ibrahim Hooper of CAIR to speak at an anti-jihad conference I am currently planning for the Fall.
The LGF blog, also known for its Islamophobic viewpoint, wrote of Spencer’s site: “His website has descended into a true hate site at this point, dominated by extreme, bigoted commenters who regularly advocate genocide and mass murder of Muslims.”
Johnson was lying, of course. It is noteworthy that he offered no examples of such comments, and couldn’t, because whenever we see such comments, we remove them. I have gone on record many times saying that comments advocating genocide and mass murder of Muslims are immoral, intolerable, and will be removed if we see them: genocidal comments are not welcome here.
My friend and colleague Marisol Seibold does a terrific job monitoring the comments fields, and removes such comments when she sees them. But there are a great many comments, and sometimes one may slip by and remain. Does that mean I endorse it? No — read the disclaimer at the top of every comment field. And for the best explanation of why it is preposterous to try to tar me with what commenters say, let’s go to…Charles Johnson! Before he became thoroughly morally corrupt and betrayed all of his principles, Johnson wrote this (you’ll have to copy and paste the link for it to work; the aging adolescent libelblogger has blocked direct links from this site) at LGF when CAIR, of all people, tried to defame him over comments on his site.
Charles, looks like you are PWNED!
Many may remember his reporting on the 2008 ISNA conference.
This years ISNA conference was held in D.C. on Independence Day, and he provides a detailed account of his treatment by the “Religion of Peace.”
It’s an excellent article, so I will get out of the way.
David Gaubatz, CAIR and the ISNA.
This is a brave man, and we need more like him to win against the evil forces of islam.
*h/t* Jim Baxter.
Note from savage: This is so well written, I decided to post it verbatim from Jihad Watch with no revisions whatsoever.
Original here.
1. Freedom of religion, and non-establishment of religion
What we must defend:
“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof…” — First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution
What we must defend it against:
“Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Koran should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.” — CAIR co-founder and longtime Board Chairman Omar Ahmad (he denies saying it, but the original reporter stands by her story)
“I wouldn’t want to create the impression that I wouldn’t like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future.” — CAIR’s Ibrahim Hooper
The Muslim Brotherhood “must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in eliminating and destroying the Western civilization from within and ‘sabotaging’ its miserable house by their hands and the hands of the believers so that it is eliminated and Allah’s religion is made victorious over all other religions.” — Mohamed Akram, “An Explanatory Memorandum on the General Strategic Goal for the Group in North America,” May 22, 1991
2. Freedom of speech
What we must defend:
“Congress shall make no law…abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press…” — First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution
What we must defend it against:
“In confronting the Danish cartoons and the Dutch film ‘Fitna’, we sent a clear message to the West regarding the red lines that should not be crossed. As we speak, the official West and its public opinion are all now well-aware of the sensitivities of these issues. They have also started to look seriously into the question of freedom of expression from the perspective of its inherent responsibility, which should not be overlooked.” — Ekmeleddin Ihsanoglu, Secretary General of the 57-nation Organization of the Islamic Conference
“Pakistan will ask the European Union countries to amend laws regarding freedom of expression in order to prevent offensive incidents such as the printing of blasphemous caricatures of Prophet Muhammad (Peace Be Upon Him) and the production of an anti-Islam film by a Dutch legislator…” — Daily Times, June 8, 2008
3. Equality of rights before the law
What we must defend:
“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.” — Declaration of Independence
What we must defend it against:
“The indemnity for the death or injury of a woman is one-half the indemnity paid for a man. The indemnity paid for a Jew or Christian is one-third the indemnity paid for a Muslim. The indemnity paid for a Zoroastrian is one-fifteenth that of a Muslim.” — ‘Umdat al-Salik, o4.9
“Thus if [a] Muslim commits adultery his punishment is 100 lashes, the shaving of his head, and one year of banishment. But if the man is not a Muslim and commits adultery with a Muslim woman his penalty is execution…Similarly if a Muslim deliberately murders another Muslim he falls under the law of retaliation and must by law be put to death by the next of kin. But if a non-Muslim who dies at the hand of a Muslim has by lifelong habit been a non-Muslim, the penalty of death is not valid. Instead the Muslim murderer must pay a fine and be punished with the lash….Since Islam regards non-Muslims as on a lower level of belief and conviction, if a Muslim kills a non-Muslim…then his punishment must not be the retaliatory death, since the faith and conviction he possesses is loftier than that of the man slain…Again, the penalties of a non-Muslim guilty of fornication with a Muslim woman are augmented because, in addition to the crime against morality, social duty and religion, he has committed sacrilege, in that he has disgraced a Muslim and thereby cast scorn upon the Muslims in general, and so must be executed….Islam and its peoples must be above the infidels, and never permit non-Muslims to acquire lordship over them.” — Sultanhussein Tabandeh, A Muslim Commentary on the Universal Declaration of Human Rights
4. Governments deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed
What we must defend:
“That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed…” — Declaration of Independence
What we must defend it against:
Non-Muslims have “absolutely no right to seize the reins of power in any part of God’s earth nor to direct the collective affairs of human beings according to their own misconceived doctrines.” If they do, “the believers would be under an obligation to do their utmost to dislodge them from political power and to make them live in subservience to the Islamic way of life.” — Syed Abul Ala Maududi, founder of the Pakistani political party Jamaat-e-Islami
Never surrender. Never submit. Never be silenced. Freedom and independence forever.
You know, if Rudy were still Hizzoner in NYC, he’d be breaking a few windows of his own over this – NY City Council backs closure of schools for Islamic Feast on Sept. 11th
The New York City Council June 30 called on Mayor Bloomberg to add the Islamic feast days of Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha to the New York Public School calendar. The non-binding council vote, Resolution 1281, passed with only councilmember G. Oliver Koppel opposing, urges the schools be closed to celebrate the two Islamic feast days. The vote comes as the culmination of a three-years lobbying effort by New York Islamist groups and what supporters such as the Council on American-Islamic Relations describe as “over 80 Labor and Community Organizations.”
The New York Times July 1 noted:
Supporters also say that since the Ids (pronounced eeds) are floating holidays whose timing is set by the lunar calendar, they often fall on other religious holidays, on weekends or during the summer. During the next decade, for instance, at least one of the two Ids each year is expected to coincide with summer recess or an existing school holiday, according to a report by the Immigrant Rights Clinic at New York University.
While assiduously digging into Islamic lunar calendar for the future timing of the Islamic feast days, The Times fails to mention that Eid al-Adha falls on Sunday, September 11 in the year 2016 and Eid al-Fitr will begin at sunset on September 9 and continue to sunset on Friday September 10 in the year 2010.
These “civil dates” for the two feast days are projected by the Islamic Umm al-Qura calendar maintained by the Saudi Government. They are the earliest possible dates for sighting of the crescent moon at Mecca. The feasts may fall one or two days later depending on a Saudi “hilal committee” responsible to spot the first visible crescent moon at Mecca—so Eid al-Fitr could possibly begin at sunset on September 10 or 11 and continue into September 11 or 12, 2010. Resolution 1281 makes no mention of the date on which the Islamic feast days will be celebrated.
The Umm al-Qura calendar gives the modern “Georgian” calendar dates of six Islamic feast days and holidays until the year 2029. Eid al-Fitr and Eid al-Adha are the two which will fall on September 11 soonest. The next will be Islamic New Year–1 Muharram–which will be September 11, 2018. No others fall on September 11 through 2029.
This is not the only example of Islamists convincing local authorities to celebrate Islam on September 11. Earlier this year the Hawaii State Legislature voted to celebrate “Islam Day” on September 24, 2009—a day which corresponds to absolutely nothing in the Islamic calendar but is September 11, 2009 on the old Julian calendar favored by the Eastern Orthodox Christians conquered by Islam.
But remember folks, people on the Left aren’t traitors to America. No way. No how. Hunh uh. Not ever.
The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR), whose officials in the past have been convicted for being associated with Muslim terrorist groups, said it will announce at a news conference Tuesday that it is launching an “education campaign” and will distribute 100,000 copies of the Koran to local, state and national leaders. The books will provide an English translation and commentary.
CAIR said the distribution is prompted by U.S. President Barack Obama’s recent speech in Cairo, in which he said he wants to reach out to Muslims throughout the world. He praised the Muslim community in the U.S, whose values he said incorporate tenets of Islam. President Obama, whose father was a Muslim, quoted the Koran four times in his speech in Cairo and used the word “violence” instead of “terror” in his reference to extremists.
“Through this ground-breaking outreach initiative, we hope not only to educate policy-makers and opinion leaders about Islam, but also to provide an opportunity for American Muslims to reach out to their fellow citizens of other faiths,” said CAIR board chairman, North Carolina State Senator Larry Shaw.
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Know Your Enemy
(Pacifica Radio – The Mouthpiece Of The Anti-American Alliance)
On April 15, 5, 1949. Lew Hill and a staff of four other useful idiots launched the first openly traitorous radio station in the world from (of course) a makeshift Berkeley studio to, among other things, protest U.S. involvement in WW2.
From their, this resource of propaganda grew as four more cities gained the lies, and exaggerations of Pacifica when local residents created new Pacifica stations around the country: KPFK in Los Angeles, WBAI in New York City, KPFT in Houston, and WPFW in Washington DC.
Including affiliates, the Pacifica Network, today, includes approximately 150 stations, that collaborate daily to bring Anti-West radio and subversive media to American citizens. For approximately 60 years now Pacifica Radio has provided a haven and training ground for Socialist activists and Leftist journalists. Pacifica has been the vanguard of Nazi, then Socialist, and now Islamist propaganda providing every dictator, terrorist, traitor, and subversize voice a soap box. Daily this mouthpiece for despotism spreads horribly spun news, and cherry picked historical and political analysis across the United States (and the World).
Pacifica Radio is the encaptulation of everything we complain about here, and everything we fear from the Left. On every issue, they make sure to come to one conclusion: it is the U.S.’s fault. At every opportunity possible they work to support those that would weaken, and destroy the United States and the West. Including providing support for cop killers, fanning the flames of Anti-Americanism by repeating lies abaout our military and Abu Gharab, spreading propaganda regarding Venezuala, attacking our troops, promoting those who wish to weaken the U.S., attacking American traditions (while supporting America’s enemies), supporting the most extreme cases of Abortion, openly supporting Communism, advocate on behalf of terrorist organizations, are rabidly Anti-Israel, support groups such as the I.S.M., and A.N.S.W.E.R, rail against so-called “US Imperialism“, and act as the mouthpiece for C.A.I.R.
Shockingly, the aforementioned is just an incomplete short list. I personally listen to Pacifica Radio almost daily and can atest to the fact that what actually takes place on their airwaves is worse than what they document on their websites. (Every good traitor knows to hide their real intentions when possible).
I have personally heard them call for the destruction of Israel, claim Jews run the media, Government, etc., give support for Terrorists Gaza/Judea Samaria, Venezuela, England, Lebanon, Haiti, and Syria, actively promote a Communist overthrow of the United States, encourage anti American political activity, and blame 9/11 on “the Zionists” and/or Bush etc. At every step, and at every opportunity, Pacifica works to hamper the safety and security of the United States, and actively gives comfort and assistance to our enemies. (great link to their programs here)
The treasonous 5th column in the United States has a very active mouthpiece – it is called Pacifica Radio…….and they continue to broadcast across the U.S. as we blog.
(as always I recommend that you don’t just take my word for it, but use the links provided and go to the source and make up your own mind)
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