SUMMARY LIST OF ORDERS WE WILL NOT OBEY:
1. We will NOT obey orders to disarm the American people.
2. We will NOT obey orders to conduct warrantless searches of the American people
3. We will NOT obey orders to detain American citizens as unlawful enemy combatants or to subject them to military tribunal.
4. We will NOT obey orders to impose martial law or a state of emergency on a state.
5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.
6. We will NOT obey any order to blockade American cities, thus turning them into giant concentration camps.
7. We will NOT obey any order to force American citizens into any form of detention camps under any pretext.
8. We will NOT obey orders to assist or support the use of any foreign troops on U.S. soil against the American people to keep the peace or to maintain control.
9. We will NOT obey any orders to confiscate the property of the American people, including food and other essential supplies.
10.We will NOT obey any orders which infringe on the right of the people to free speech, to peaceably assemble, and to petition their government for a redress of grievances.
Go visit Oathkeepers for more information.
Hat tip to melinwy. Great find!
Wesley Clark, John F’n Kerry and Markous where not avaible for comment.
We saw what happened on GWs’ watch. Think how bad it
couldwill be with the current batch.These people are nothing more than waycisst, right-wing, neo-confederate, birching nut-jobs.
/the ponytailed one
Seriously, it is a bit sad that they feel the need to take this oath. Not that they shouldn’t take it, but this is representative of how much the proggies have debased our country. It is high time we kick their asses.
Blue helmets excluded from oath
@ linoleumknife:
Please notice the footage was from GWs’ admin
@ BenZacharia:
Ugh, I despise the U.N. I will proudly say that if some blue helmet bastards shows up in my backyard I will kick their asses.
@ BenZacharia:
Huh, sorry I didn’t watch the video. I have heard of the oath keepers before though. I respect what they are standing for. It sends a clear message to the morons in government.
7
Kill ‘em
@ BenZacharia:
LOL, well that is what I was getting at, but I did not want to come off as too violent. I am armed well enough that they would not make it far. I feel pretty safe in Texas though. I don’t imagine that many people are wanting to invade us here. It would be a blood bath.
10 lin…
“Patriots” -Rawles
Get back to me
*yawn BBIAW
@ BenZacharia:
Damn, I might buy that book. Looks good. In regards to the survivalist thing. My family and I are well versed in all manners of farming and livestock. I have been hunting and cleaning and processing meat since I was six. My mom and I can all sorts of vegetables and fruits every year. Overall, I think we would do fairly well.
The thing that would hurt the most is no XBOX. LOL
Morning everybody.
@ Rightside:
Mornin’ Rightside. You’re up early. Good to see you though.
@ linoleumknife:
Today is election day in VA. Going to vote on my way into work.
Good to see you.
@ Rightside:
Oooh cool. Good luck. We have voting here today as well. Propostions and what not. Mostly tax code stuff. I’m gonna hit the polls this afternoon.
Nice. We have the governors race, which, according to the latest polls has McDonnell (R) up by nearly 20 points.
Still going to vote though.
Off topic thought: If global
warmingclimate change is such a huge problem, why aren’t they making the emission of excess CO2 a criminal offence?It’s a rhetorical question, the answer is obvious.
Oh sweet! they added the “jump to bottom” link
@ archonix:
Please do not give those jerks any ideas. Their small minds might not be able to handle it. I’m sure ole’ Al gets a stiffy everytime there is talk of a climate tax.
@ Rightside:
Well I’m glad that you are going. Good poll results is no excuse to shirk your civic duty.
@ linoleumknife:
Our son will go vote for the first time in his life, too.
It looks like American jurisprudence will have to come up with a new crime category: Daughterslaughter.
OOPS! Wrong thread.
@ Rightside:
Oh man that is awesome. You must be really proud. My first vote was a local one, my first big one was for G.W. Bush’s second term. I will never forget that day. It is a great honor to vote. I just wish congress saw it that way, instead of turning a blind eye to voter fraud.
@ linoleumknife:
I am. I voted for Reagans second term via absentee ballot.
Throw them all out, I say.
Good morning, y’all.
@ RickZ:
It’s all good. They won’t come up with that though. For you see, we can not offend the dear Muzzies.
@ goddessoftheclassroom:
Good morning, {goddess}
@ goddessoftheclassroom:
Mornin’ Goddess
@ Rightside:
I wish I could have voted for Reagan. I like to send youtube clips of his speeches to my friends. It surprises them how much they agree with him.
@ linoleumknife:
Plant the seeds early…
I’m really pulling for Hoffman.
@ goddessoftheclassroom:
I am too. He is not some flashy career politician and he has conservatism down. I like the man. Plus it will be a good wake up call for the Republican party.
@ linoleumknife:
I’ve decided that my number one domestic priority for the government is to leave me alone.
@ goddessoftheclassroom:
Amen, it is amazing how intrusive they can be, and want to be. My life is none of their damn business.
I would love to sit the entire congress down, and show them this educational video. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mfMG66LtVU
A representative from the Oathkeepers was interviewed on the Rick Roberts show a few weeks ago. It was good to know they exist.
Y’all have a good day.
KFC has done it again!!
KFC just announced an addition to their chicken dinners.
It’s called the Obama Cabinet Bucket.
It consists of nothing but left wings and assholes
Good morning to all here present.
See ya later.
See ya later.
@ goddessoftheclassroom:
Good morning beautiful…. ((goddess))
So, funny,,,
assweasle is giving Fat Bastard Veggie “mental health tips” over on
lgf’s .00000001.
so there you go, that should be a sign its bouncing off the bottom
taxfreekiller wrote:
ROTFLMAO… More like going “Splat” in the shit at the bottom…
March 3, 2010
littlegreenfootballs .000001
iceweasle:
Sure is slow here this morning.
iceweasle:
Ya, I’m sure I’ll think of something crude and low life to say to you.
iceweasle:
me, who the f’ you think you are???
iceweasle:
I’ll have Charles kick your ass off the blog….
iceweasle;
ya ,, go ahead….
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@ BenZacharia:
yep. Blue Helmet == target. We can take care of ourselves without them. One of the things that worries me about the Copenhagen conference that is coming up. I have no problem at all envisioning the Obama Administration signing on to a treaty that fucks America six ways from Sunday. I don’t know that he could get such a treaty through the Senate. It would probably be like when clinton signed Kyoto. Not even the Democrats (with the exception of a handful of radicals) would go along with that attack on the American economy.
@ taxfreekiller:
yes iceweasle is banging on about Robert Spencer….it really has no clue what Jihad Watch is about
@ Rightside:
let us know how it went, like any black panthers with clubs who told you the place was closed or something.
@ apachegunner:
<— slides coffee cup over.. Ahem… say gunner, would ya mind???
sure dorian, enjoy bud. think i overfilled mine this morning but what the heck, i can deal with it.
apachegunner wrote:
ROTFLMAO…. Yes you can…
@ goddessoftheclassroom:
100% It is “none of their business” should apply to more things than buttfucking and abortion.
Morning all!
Don’t you bums have jobs???
Hello???
@ Iron Fist:
OK, in retrospect that is a little unfair. The Democrats also support privacy rights for child molesters.
@ typicalwhitey:
Why yes I do… But since it’s only 5am in the morning here I blessedly dont have to be there for two more hours, ok, well one if ya count my drive time..
*tink*tink*tink*
Anyone awake?
@ typicalwhitey:
I’m at work, but I’ll post as I can. You don’t happen to know anything about SQL Server SMO do you? I’m having a serious problem with doing database restores with it, as in that just don’t work. Bleh.
doriangrey wrote:
Just giving you a hard time….since I get to stay at home all day!
How are you this morning?
typicalwhitey wrote:
work is highly over rated
The new TV Series V premires tonight, about Aliens that come to Earth & mesmorise a lot of the population.
According to a Chicago Tribune review it is an allegory for the Obama Administration.
They say that Obama supporteres will not like it, but opponents will.
@ typicalwhitey: I don’t need no stinkin job. morning whitey
@ typicalwhitey:
Oh have a cup of coffee and relax, things move a little slower here in the wee hours of the morning…
Some of us are still trying to wake up ya know…
Iron Fist wrote:
Sorry Iron, I don’t even know what that is!
Glad to see you though, you are another poster whom I really enjoy “talking” to.
@ Iron Fist:
I gotta book on SQL, will that help Fist?
@ RIX:
Hmmm, so some TV producer in the early 80’s knew the Obama Administration was coming?
@ RIX: Rix, wheres your icon?
errrr avatar that is
@ doriangrey:
I know.
Sometimes I see that I am talking to myself LOL
@ apachegunner:
ROTFLMAO…. Nothing helps with SQL… it’s a kludge turned into an EPIC clusterfuck…
@ RIX:
I watched some V movies on syfy sunday…the connection with Nazi’s was real clear
doriangrey wrote:
Paper didn’t mention that. This is a redo?
apachegunner wrote:
Tell me that your kidding, I can see it.
One day closer to seeing my grandson!!
@ RIX:
Interesting. I plan on watching it. The last time I bothered with a TV Series was Battlestar Galactica. I loved the first couple of seasons, and then they went and fucked it up. I haven’t seen any of the last season, and don’t really plan to. I want to give this show a chance, but I can’t get my hopes up too much.
RIX wrote:
Yes… V 1984
I will be watching the election news tonight!
@ apachegunner:
Probably not, but thanks. I had all this working using SQL DMO, but our database is going to be in SQL Server 2008. SQL DMO is deprecated for that. SMO is the “new” tech. Same as the old tech, if you ask me. An obscure class library with sketchy documentation. Bleh.
Morning again everyone. Who wants some coffee?
@ doriangrey:
Maybe they tweaked it to make it relevant, or the Tribune is misreading it.
@ typicalwhitey:
{typicalwhitey}
Iron Fist wrote:
If it’s half as good as the original series it should be worth watching at least a few episodes. If they fuck it up it could easily end up going the way of Star Trek Voyager…
Morning everyone! Oh goodie,tonites election results=Hussein gets his skinny butt kicked, new V series=scathing allegory of the power grab we are presently resisting.Plus it is a crisp sunny day here in olde New England.
typicalwhitey wrote:
Me too. I’m so excited and hopeful that we can take Va. the 23rd District and Jersey.
Zero has been to Jersey 5 times, trying to drag Corzine across the finish line. If he loses that is going to put Zero under his desk, sucking his thumb.
On Afghanistan, time’s up
@ RIX:
Or the Tribune writers are just ignorant hacks taking gratuitous shots at Obama. Try keeping in mind that the imbeciles in Hollyweid LOVE Obama, they’re not going to make anything that portrays him or his administration in anything even vaguely resembling a negative light.
@ RIX:
If it is supposed to represent the Obama Administration, well, that would be a massive turn-around from the Obama cheerleading squad that ABC was part of this time last year. Unless they really fuck the story up it would be a major understatement to call that scathingly harsh. In the original series, the aliens came to earth to bring peace and love so they could use humans as a supply of meat.
I’m a huge Obama critic, and even I would find that to be a little over the top. If it is, though, I’ll probably love the show. I intend to watch it tonight. It’s the first TV series I have planned on watching since I gave up on BSG.
@ Iron Fist:
well, i am glad its you dealing with it and not me. they’d wait forever.
Oh, and I just voted too.
chickadee wrote:
Oh, I hope you are right.
Voted first thing this morning and traffic was brisk in my small town. I live in a red town in a blue county in a very blue state.
..sigh…
@ doriangrey:
Actually, I thought the same thing.
It is hard for me to imagine Hollywood breaking bad on Obama,
but you never know.
Can you see my avatar?
chickadee wrote:
Speaking of which:
@ chickadee:
Hi chickadee! Tell me this guy doesn’t have an eating disorder.
http://www.drudgereport.com/flashbb.htm
Good Morning Troop !
Get out ther and vote.
remember the lizards are not our friends
@ vagabond trader:
Sigh… Please…. The series V has nothing to do with current politics. It takes at least two years to get a production like this ready to show on the air. If anything it is a slam against the Bush administration, most likely not even that, just a remake of a very popular 1984 SciFi TV series.
Just common sense
@ doriangrey:
Saw some of the original on TV last week. Was a hoot with those awful hair styles and the giant cell phone and video cameras.
Election day 2009 open thread!
http://jumpinginpools.blogspot.com/2009/11/election-day-2009-open-thread.html
David Harmer can win today in California!
http://jumpinginpools.blogspot.com/2009/11/david-harmer-can-win-today.html
Hoffman leads, his base is the strongest.
http://jumpinginpools.blogspot.com/2009/11/hoffman-leads-his-base-is-strongest.html
@ RIX:
Looks like a
mangy coyote… err a healthy wolf… Heh heh heh…Kitteh wrote:
ROTFLMAO…. Yup, nearly perfect portrayal of the 80’s…
@ doriangrey:
OK Dorien,have it your way,we know its always the fault of Boosh!tler but come on we need some HOPE around here.Any little bit of fictional HOPE will do for now.
I was trying to imagine what it must be like to be a young woman knowing that your own father could and would KILL you, in any brutal way because, for example, your skirt might be a couple of inches too short.
It would not be possible to think of your father as anything but your mortal enemy. So much for family values in Islam.
@ doriangrey:
Thanks. It’s a coyote & I had a tough time uploading it.
OT:
I found a website last night that was very critical of this place.
And I was suprised to see some of the criticism directed at us by some who now post here.
Is that normal?
doriangrey wrote:
Maybe that were tryingto say, in the eyes of the beholder.
Old favourites such as Willie, Ham Tyler and Mike Donovan were back. And of course, the wicked Diana was back (looking beautiful than ever). Joining the show were the likes of Lydia who was a rival to Diana and the mysterious Charles.
ROTFLMAO…. I sooo forgot about that… I guess we now know a little something about ole Charles the Lizard King…
@ chickadee:
It is pathological,especially the Islamist men. If anything is going to change Islam it’ll be women. Not holding my breath for that renaissance.
mornin folks
here’s your daybyday for today
@ typicalwhitey:
Interesting, and I would say it’s not.
@ typicalwhitey:
For the internet, yes. Anything that is successful will have it’s detractors, and remember, LGF 1.0 even today has a very large sympathetic following.
@ RIX: i can see it if its a G quarter turned counter clockwise
@ doriangrey:
oooh…Diana! how abouts a little lizard tail
Who didn’t see this coming.
Rightside wrote:
I just found it a little disturbing.
mawskrat wrote:
Cough cough… I generally have this one rule… Never have sex with anything that likes to eat it’s partner after colitis… :O
@ RIX:then why can’t i see it?
vagabond trader wrote:
Hey {vt}
He is just enough of a metro-sexual effeminate foptart to be worried about looking good in his clothes..
And he must be up to 3 packs a day. The pressure is getting to him.
@ typicalwhitey:
Power and control, nothing to do with health or caring. Its the statist way.
Union members with great HC insurance had best take note of the so called “reinsurance” clause.
@ typicalwhitey:Names? give us Names!
@ typicalwhitey:
A government program that ends up costing more than they predict.. Never saw that before… This is all a way to make 0-bama look bad.. its a vast right wing conspiracy.
/
And I wish they would remake the show thats my Avatar… Space: Above and Beyond only lasted one season but it got so good toward the end. I bought the DVD set and started watching. The pilot was bad and the first 2-3 shows were not so good. I wondered if I had made a mistake and the memories were based on some youth indescretion. Then it got better and better.
@ chickadee:
LOL, the old lady could break him in two with her guns. I find it hilarious that a heavy smoker is described as living a healthy lifestyle.Leftspeak: Do as I say…….
Personally I don’t think this is needed or furthers the debate any. No one is ordering the Military to do these things. It kinda makes us look silly. No one has to worry about the Military one way or the other in this country.
@ typicalwhitey:
It isn’t really uncommon. some of the people here had some harsh words for me back when I was still posting at LGF. You just have to let it go. you can’t hate everyone.
Now, did anybody say anything about me? If they did, I’ll kill ‘em…
@ MikeA:
Hmmm, is your avatar from the TV series, “Space Above and Beyond”???
@ doriangrey:
Yes it is.
@ typicalwhitey:
I’ve seen a few here stomp off in anger that we are still posting about Charles. Other than that I can’t imagine what their complaints are.
@ typicalwhitey:
Recently? We have been bashed at the best and worst of them, haven’t noticed anything lately.
@ Nevergiveup:
Oathkeeper’s aren’t just Military, a lot of them are cops.
I just reread the V review by Glen Garvin in the Chicago Tribune.
The guy asserts that the dialouge is a Parody of the fawning over Obama.
It has me curious enouugh to TiVo to watch later.
The story lines were great. The one they did about Chiggy Von Richtoven and the one where they are on the planet with a hat-tip to Guadalcanal… Excellent…
@ MikeA:
Vaguely recall that show, when did it air>
@ MikeA:
Loved that series, and remember when the Soviet Union accidentally mistook one of the set props for a new generation of American fighter aircraft… Man that was sweet and funny as hell…
@ doriangrey:
I still think it is silly and paranoid. Just my opinion.
@ doriangrey:
dorians avatar is a picture of him sitting at a bar last week, right?
@ vagabond trader:
1995
Well me and all the old folks who can’t sleep voted real early this AM. Go Christie
Iron Fist wrote:
@ vagabond trader:
Aired in 1995 on Fox.
@ apachegunner:
ROTFLMAO….. No, it from the CD cover of my CD I released way back in 1996………
This thing is kinda. Cannot wait to plop our new furniture down in the new house where it belongs. We’ll also have a link viewer so all these terrfic links will be in one handy spot.
@ vagabond trader:
This thing is kinda slow….maybe a preview too?
This guy will not be long at LGF
Nevergiveup wrote:
I am having trouble with #5
5. We will NOT obey orders to invade and subjugate any state that asserts its sovereignty.
Does that mean that they would not supress sessesion?
Hamas operatives in the Gaza Strip possess in their military arsenal a missile that is capable of striking Tel Aviv, the army’s top military intelligence officer told a parliamentary panel in Jerusalem on Tuesday.
That would be a mistake, since most of the Israeli “Liberals” tend to live there. But hey go ahead make my day.
apachegunner wrote:
I would feel bad doing that because some of the posts are from last May and that is enough time for people to change their minds about us.
Don’t you think?
@ Nevergiveup:
Good on you Doc, we’ll all be rooting for him, Mcdonnell, Hoffman, etc.
@ RIX:
“Does that mean that they would not supress sessesion?”
Ya don’t think Louisiana is gonna leave the Union while the Saints are 7 and 0?
Iron Fist wrote:
Ha. My kid could help you out but I can’t.
@ Rightside:
Hoffman was on Becks radio show yesterday, good guy, solid conservative.
Good morning all. I see this is now the old sci-fi t.v. thread.
Seriously though, I enjoyed watching ‘V’ when it came out and then again when I rented it in the 80’s. Ever notice how the opening scenes were uncannily similar to ‘Independence Day’?
/also loved ‘Space: Above and Beyond’
@ typicalwhitey:
ah, i was only kidding whitey, let em waste their words
@ Rightside:
I love voting. Almost as much as drinking. If I didn’t have to vote so early, I’d combine the two?
A joint French-British UN initiative would call on Israel and the Palestinians to hold immediate, independent investigations into war crimes allegations stemming from the war in Gaza,
Yup right after the UK and France investigate all their past atrocities in Africa and the colonies.
@ Nevergiveup:
Ya don’t think Louisiana is gonna leave the Union while the Saints are 7 and 0?
Who would have figured the Saints for 7&0, before the season?
It does not look like a fluke though.
@ typicalwhitey:
Must’ve been at Ace or HA. Meh,we’ve watched plenty of folks badmouth us at 1.0 and sooner rather than later many of them ended up here. Each to their own.
@ PaladinPhil:
Ooops, meant to say “rented in the 90’s“.
/need more coffee
145@ RIX:
Lots of other states rights issues aside from secession.
@ PaladinPhil:
the begining of the V movies were dedicated to freedom fighters past, present and future
@ RIX:
No it does not, succession is not asserting Sovereignty. The Oathkeepers are not anti-establishment people, they are strict constitutionalists. They see the Federal government as overreaching it’s constitutional authority and their oaths and declared intentions are to adhere strictly to the US constitution. (Local San diego California Talk Radio personality Rick Roberts had one of Oathkeepers founders on his show recently, he went into considerable detail on exactly what their mission and intentions are)
@ Nevergiveup:
Methinks 52% of Americans were under the influence when they voted last year.
So,the Yanks lost?
@ vagabond trader:
Who has bad mouthed us other then the long haired hippie and his merry band?
My favorite Space: Above and Beyond Quote:
[Colonel McQueen is about to go kill Chiggy Von Richtofen, the
enemies ace flyer]
Priest: Colonel. Colonel! Colonel McQueen! Do you need to make peace
with your maker.
Lt. Col. Tyrus Cassius “TC” McQueen: My maker was some geek in a lab
coat with an eyedropper And a petri dish. What do I need to make
peace with him for?
Priest: In times of war we must all make peace with our maker.
Lt. Col. Tyrus Cassius “TC” McQueen: Well, I dont think our maker
wants to hear from me right now. Because he know Im going to go
out in this plane And Im going to remove one of His creations from
His universe. And when I get back, Im going to drink a bottle of
scotch as if it was Chiggy Von Richtofens blood And celebrate his
death.
Priest: Amen.
@ vagabond trader:
That’s what I hear. I fell asleep.
Dems are paying for Daggett robo calls. They now admit it.
http://campaignspot.nationalreview.com/post/?q=ZmZjOGRmMDg0NTIyNGJhZWY3YWFiZjVkNDlmNzM2NWU=
@ Nevergiveup:
No idea,see #109.I have seen a few scattered insults at various blogs in the past. Nothing to get excited about and most likely they were selrahC cultists.
vagabond trader wrote:
Mark Levin had Hoffman on last week. He was a breath of fresh air. Talked about substantive issues.
He didn’t mess around with deceptive platitudes.
@ mawskrat:
What I was talking about was the HUGE starships taking positions over cities world wide. Only real difference between the two types of ships was the ID4 ships where more…hmmmm how to put it, chunkier?
/i.e. not smooth and pretty looking
@ Nevergiveup:
You only have to go back to the Clinton Administration to see why some people feel this kind of step is necessary. There is every indication that the Clinton Administration was considering something along those lines. some Marines at 29 Palms were asked if they’d fire on Americans in order to enforce a disarmament order. This was after the Waco Massacre, and during the “Assault Weapons Ban” debate.
Understandably, people freaked. The AWB passed, and the people threw the Democrats out. No Democrat House and Senate, no new laws to send the military in to enforce.
Nobody trusts the Democrats on gun control. With good reason. The Democrats have been trying to disarm their opponents since Reconstruction. FDR got the most gun control through, followed by LBJ. If you’ve been reading my posts, you’ll know I’m not impressed with the Republicans on the isseu, either. I think it is safe to say that there is an enormous amount of distrust in the country on the issue. That is why gun and ammunition sales have been at record high levels since last year’s elections.
If the military and police explicitly saying that they will not enforce such laws helps prevent them from being passed in the first place, that is good. No good can come of gun control laws. Only the loss of freedom that will be nearly impossible to regain.
Dems are paying for Daggett robo calls. They now admit it.
@ Kitteh:
Sorry for the double post. Thought the intertubes ate the first one.
I don’t think that the mandate in obamacare forcing people to purchase health insurance will be uphelp by the Supreme Court.
Does anyone agree/disagree?
@ Nevergiveup:
There you go, they should have nothing to be ashamed of after 300 years of global colonialism right?/
@ typicalwhitey:
I agree, but I think it will be 5-4, telling congress they can’t do that.
UpHELD sheesh!
Rightside wrote:
Then what??
remember the only good bug is a dead bug!
//is that racist?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faFuaYA-daw
@ typicalwhitey:I think your right, just wonder who might push it to the court
@ typicalwhitey:
It would definitely be challenged but with the possibility of at least two more appointments to the scotus coming up during the reign of Hussein we cannot afford to find out,imho.
I think 6. should say “except for San Francisco.”
{Good Morning!}
BenZacharia wrote:
Yeah, but they omit sessesion as an exception. I just wonder is it
intentional or an oversight.
@ typicalwhitey:
I (and most everybody else) thought the Court would shit-can McCain-Feingold, but they didn’t. The Supreme Court doesn’t always throw out even the most blatently unconstitutional laws. The 1934 NFA is still on the books, for example.
Nevergiveup wrote:
That’s what bloody marys are for.
@ vagabond trader:two? i think ginsburg will go soon, but who else do ya think?
apachegunner wrote:
I would and I am not kidding.
I have no doubt I could find an attorney/attorneys who would do this pro bono.
@ typicalwhitey:
Then the dems will regroup and figure out a way to “game” the system, as is their wont.
They cannot come right out and admit what they are doing, they are cowards. They know the American people will never buy off on what they really want to do, so, like most liberals, they have to couch it in lawyerese, and then blatantly lie about what they are really doing.
By that time, it will be time for mid-term elections, and we can complete the sweep.
Hoist the broom at the yardarm, sigs!
@ Rightside:
I got my “mop” and am fired up and ready to go!
Ewww can’t believe I just said that.
Go ahead and ban me
Iron Fist wrote:
The Supreme Court gives great deference to lower court decisions.
However they do get into bench legislating at times. As an example. it is really a stretch to find Fourth Amendment protection for Roe v Wade. The Court simply made it up.
Things that will make you weep.
http://www.breitbart.tv/russian-forklift-driver-wipes-150k-in-cognac-vodka/
@ RIX:
If, say, California wanted to secceede would you really want to send in the military to declare Martial Law and prevent them? Would you want them to fire on people in California who refused to turn in their guns? How about Alaska?
what the Oathkeepers are saying shouldn’t be controversial. I find the fact that it is to be more than a little disturbing.
@ Iron Fist:
True. I don’t recall seeing the article that gives congress the authority to tell the people what kind of firearms they can bear, or how the trigger can fire more than one round at a time.
@ typicalwhitey:
One thing I can say for you, you are ready and raring to go early mornings.
@ apachegunner:
There has been some noise about Justice Stevens retiring.I don’t put it past this administration to coerce him if need be.
@ Rightside:
bump fire is one round at a time real fast!
@ Iron Fist:
Hi IF, did you see this? Interesting little take on Obamacare and gun ownership.
http://commonamericanjournal.com/?p=3959
@ Iron Fist:
I hear ya, but I still think it’s much ado over nothing
@ Iron Fist:
maby we need to take the guns, go to california, and make the fookers succeed?
Rightside wrote:
When I was younger I used to sleep until noon.
Now I rarely sleep more than 5 hours a night.
Of course, the worry over the grandson situation is causing a lot of this.
But not ALL of it
At the time The Constitution was ratified CANNON where in private hands. The language says “arms” anything goes.
Arty
Flamethrowers
Rockets
Nukes
Great, my image is back up with a little twist. Click on my name under my avatar to see!
errrrr, sorry californians here, not you you can move east of the mississippi and be happy for the rest of your lives
@ BenZacharia:
LOL, bet the driver felt no pain!
@ typicalwhitey:
Got the Linky to that place? Here we have the freedom to speak without the stick.
Rightside wrote:
That kicks ass!
@ Rightside:
hey! i like that!
@ Rightside:
Beautiful!
@ Rightside:
My screen saver is a photo of that Navy poster: “Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of all who Threaten it” written over a photo of a Carrier Battle Group.
Marge45b wrote:
Yeah but honestly I went back and looked again and the posts were from last May.
People change and 5 months is enough to deprogramme…….:)
@ mawskrat:
I saw something like that at the gunshow last week. Take the slack out of your trigger, then attach the thing they were selling (can’t remember their name for it) to it, and it was like full auto!
It made the weapon fire on both the forward and rearward motion of the firearm.
Rightside wrote:
When the Consitution was passed, one had to be good to get off three rounds in a minute with one of those old smooth bores. I cannot imagine what the Founders would have thought of a pistol that fires 17 rounds without reloading (Glock). Or a citizen having a mortar or a bazooka.
@ RIX:
Roe v. Wade is bad law, no doubt about that. It wasn’t even really the Fourth Amendment that they ruled on, merely the “penumbras and emmanations” of the Constitution. Had they made it a 9th and/or 10th Amendment decision it would be sounder. Where, exactly, in the Constitution does the right of the federal government to regulate abortion come from? Nowhere that I see. States have more rights in this area, but the 9th Amendment should surely be proof against that. Had the Court made that decision, I would be more comfortable with it.
make no mistake, I think abortion is almost always wrong. I think there are serious health consequences, both emotional/mental and physical, from it. I think the States should have broad power when it comes to protecting minors in this area (why is it easier for a 15 year old girl to get an abortion than it is to pierce her naval or get a tattoo?). But in general I don’t approve of the State forbidding something simply because it is bad for me, or is a sin, or whatever. There has to be a very compelling State interest in any such restrictions, and even there the Constitution trumps most State interests. Or it should.
The spin from the NYT:
Don’t put too much stock in a 23 win blah blah blah
@ Iron Fist:
Amen brother. You have said what I believe in a much better way than I could have.
mawskrat wrote:
Medaura’s favourite topic.
It’s weird.
As a woman I was very pro choice.
But after I had my daughter, no one could convince that having an abortion was just getting rid of a “blob of cells”.
I became pro life the minute I had her.
Iron Fist wrote:
Just wait until Planned Parenthood gets into the navel piercing and tatooing business. One stop shopping for the slut who needs @ss antlers.
RickZ wrote:
Same argument for the 1st. So let’s ban multi-page copiers.
@ Rightside:
What a beautiful image.
@ RickZ:
He11,why not make PP an annex to your local DMV.
@ RickZ:
Nor could the founders have envisioned the Internet, so I guess we can forget about that pesky First Amendment, too. I mean, as long as we are ignoring the Bill of Rights, why not go all the way?
@ RickZ:
While I agree there are weapons that should be regulated, e.g. anti-tank rockets, mortars, etc., congress has seen fit to not only do that, but overreach, and ban the ownership of firearms, e.g. Heller vs. DC, and McDonald vs. Chicago.
RickZ wrote:
Uh oh.
I got one in ‘03 in honor of my nephew.
Thanks for all the comments on my carrier.
Doc, I have that one up above my desk.
@ Rightside:
I couldn’t find anywhere to buy that poster. Think it is outa production, so short of stealing one, I took a photo of it and used that.
@ Rightside:
I call that the “ammo waster”. I’ve tried them, and the thing is that you can’t really aim and use it. You have to relax your hold on the weapon and let the recoil rock your finger back and forth across the trigger. You can do the same thing with a really light trigger pull. I used to know a woman who had a racegun with a 1oz. trigger pull. It wasn’t much different than the device you are talking about, but with it you could still aim. She was a better shot than me, too
Hello, I must be going.
I have to read a 300-page book today. Wish me luck. Hahahahaha.
RickZ wrote:
LOL @ a$$ antlers. I hear them called tramp stamps!
@ typicalwhitey:
a$$antlers? as in ‘tramp stamp’ above the buns?
BenZacharia wrote:
Don’t get me wrong. My statement is one of those ‘how times change’ questions. Back then, the Founders were quite knowledgable about the printing press, which, while not as fst as a modern copier, could print out pages a heck of a lot faster than the monks of the Middle Ages could hand-copy them. Or horses and and dirt paths versus automobiles and interstates. Lots of things they could not foresee, but they did an admirable job trying to do so. When the Consitution was passed, slavery and indentured servitude existed; now they don’t. Things change, and I often wonder what they would think of the changes, and how those changes would have affected their decisions, if at all. I do think some changes would have been affected, but I just don’t know which ones, given the various personalities involved at the time. No matter what changes they would have made, they still would not require the mandatory purchase of a service, health insurance.
@ Nevergiveup:
I’d almost bet you could call the local recruiters office and they’d have one. Put on the uniform, drop by, and tell them you’ll use it in your office!
@ BenZacharia:
Yeah I had never heard it called that either.
But the hubster hates tatoos and I had to put it in a hidden place lol
Yes indeed, the spin of “these elections don’t mean anything” will be starting fast and furious today. Of course, if the Democrats get in (YIKES) then it will immediately be spun as a bolster for Zero’s policies.
I live in the California 10th District, where I will be voting for David Harmer when I get home from work. I’m allowed to take off early to vote and that’s exactly what I’m planning to do. I find it the height of hypocrisy that the Democratic machine, which hammered conservative Tom McClintock for moving back to his home town’s Congressional District to run for the seat (and thank goodness he won!), has apparently no problem at all running a candidate for the 10th district who will not even be able to vote for himself today because he lives in District 3.
@ Rightside:
If one of my daughters ever got one, I’d call it her last day on earth
@ Iron Fist:
I have to drive to Maryland for the range, and I am sure they’d escort me quickly to jail if I emptied my weapon using one of those!
I saw it as a gimmick really.
@ Rightside:
I never thought of that, but I did hear it was out of production. I do know where there is on in the Hospital in Groton, but I do have some dignity. Not much but some.
Nevergiveup wrote:
Typicalwhitey is a bad girl then……..
@ Nevergiveup:
LOL,in honor of my parents that was one Jewish prohibition I always respected. Don’t even have pierced ears.Married a goy tho,go figger.(they loved him)
@ Iron Fist:
what the Oathkeepers are saying shouldn’t be controversial. I find the fact that it is to be more than a little disturbing.
They are saying that their oaths are to the Constitution, not any Chief Executive, I get that.
The Constitution does not allow for secession.
If The Federal Government tried to suspend the Constitution & declare Martial law then all bets are off.
@ Carolina Girl:
Hi CG! Did you get caught up in that Bay Bridge problem?
Democrat,synonymous with hypocrite.Honest,its in the dictionary.
:mr green:
@ typicalwhitey:
I don’t want my daughter getting one, but I’d date someone with one?
@ Iron Fist:
I think that the Supreme Court should have kicked Roe back to the States. It is difficult to find a Federal protection & I have heard Law Professors argue that it is a Fourth Amendment issue
4 dead lin Mayberry
@ typicalwhitey:
Does he not know you have it?
RIX wrote:
My understanding was the Court was not happy with the patchwork pattern of abortion laws. Unfortunately, Federalism, by its very nature, is a patchwork pattern of laws. We still see that patchwork pattern when it comes to dry counties.
This is the kind of kook stuff we used to hear from Lefties when Bush was in power. Makes us look stupid, just like it made them look stupid.
The founders did foresee everything. They have an amendment process to make changes to the constitution. Instead of the supremes reading into everything, just pass an amendment and make it allow for regulating firearms or allowing for universal healthcare. Simple. Of course the amendment process is difficult as its supposed to be…
@ BenZacharia:
Did barney catch him?
RickZ wrote:
You have the same undersatnding that I do to a point.
I think more than anything though, the court renhdered a public policy decision.
Many people that support abortion rights still see Roe as bad law.
@ Nevergiveup:
Looks like it
@ BenZacharia:
I thought that crap only went on in Mt Pilot
RIX wrote:
I think the Court rendered a public policy decision based upon the perceived inequities in the Federalism patchwork of abortion laws. (How’s that for covering the bases of your position?) If there was such a hue and cry for abortion, then as MikeA states, they should have gone the Amendment route. While that is slower, it is more sure. If the momentum was there for abortion, it would have passed, just as the momentum was there for the right for 18-year-olds to vote was passed as an Amendment.
The Court should be very wary of legislating social policy from the bench; that’s what Amendments are for. Because when they do legislate social policy, like in the Plessy vs. Ferguson case, they make bad law which can last for decades.
Good morning, Netizens!
@ vagabond trader:
That was interesting. I forwaded the link to my Girlfriend, whom I am trying to educate about the Second Amendment. That is one way they might try and slide in gun control and get around the Second Amendment. They don’t forbid anyone from having anything, so nothing is infringed. It’s just if you excercize your freedoms they’ll fine you or put you in jail.
That’s really the way it is now. You can have a machinegun or sawed-off shotgun, but if they catch you with it you’ll go to prison. Feh.
Another way they may try and do this is through treaty law. I don’t think it has ever been definitively decided whether or not a treaty can trump the Constitution. I don’t for a minute believe that the gun controllers are going to say “Aw shucks, the Supreme Court ruled our pet legislation unconstitutional, and the voters don’t like it either. Time to get a new hobby”.
No, I don’t believe that for a minute.