1. I can’t work up any kind of caring about what cj repeated time and time again if you haven’t noticed.

(not meaning that assy towards you, it’s just a fact)

2. If they met in the “rooms of the Nazi party” you could equate the two. They met in the European/Flemish Parliaments and if you guys have what’s equal to the KKK in there – how did they get there? How many people have they strung from a tree?

As it is, VB is the only one trying to do anything about the “bad craziness” to use one of the favored terms:

SWEDEN SOCIAL DEMOCRATS’ JEW HATING RALLY UNDER HEZBALLAH FLAG
VLAAMS BELANG TAKES ACTION TO HALT JEW HATING DEATH MARCHES

Dewinter and the Jooooooos
Supporting the Resistance

On October 18 and 19, over 70 organizations and individuals joined together in the European and Flemish Parliaments to create a European network of activists from 14 nations to resist the increasing Islamisation of their countries. Keynote speakers included Bat Ye’or, author of Eurabia and Dhimmitude and Robert Spencer, author of Religion of Peace, Why Christianity is and Islam Isn’t. Additional speakers included David Littman, Dr. Arieh Eldad, member of the Israeli Knesset, Dr. Patrick Sookhdeo, Director of the Institute for the Study of Islam and Christianity, Sam Solomon, Director of Fellowship of Faith for Muslims and author of the Charter of Muslim Understanding, Dr. Marc Cogen, Ghent University, Dr. Andrew Bostom, author of The Legacy of Islamic Antisemitism, and Laurent Artur du Plessis, author of a forthcoming book on shariah finance. Many participants worldwide also attended the first day of presentations online through webex conferencing.Armando Manocchio of the Italian organization Una Via per Oriana (“A Way For Oriana”) presented an award to Bat Ye’or in honor of Oriana Fallaci, including a 5,000 Euro scholarship for young journalists.

^ All of these people side with fascist? I don’t see it that way.
You and cj do.

We’ll have to agree to disagree.

Here is the “by design” thread, talking about GB.

Oh, thank you. A similar scandal happened at nearly the same time (around 2000 or 2001) in Germany with the red-green government of Schroeder/Fischer but the media was much faster to discover it.

I think the whole issue about Robert and Pamela is crazy. Attending a meeting that some VB members attended does not prove they are “siding with fascist”, in my opinion.

The so called conference took place in the rooms of the VB in the European Parliament and VB was the host of the conference.

Shoot, democratic senators meet with Robert Byrd all the time and that doesn’t mean the whole democratic party “sides with the kkk”.

i) Byrd is a disgrace for the democratic party and CJ repeated this again and again.

ii) If the democratic senators would meet with Byrd in the rooms of the KKK every one would say they are siding with the KKK.

Good night.

Here is the “by design” thread, talking about GB.

I think the whole issue about Robert and Pamela is crazy. Attending a meeting that some VB members attended does not prove they are “siding with fascist”, in my opinion.

Shoot, democratic senators meet with Robert Byrd all the time and that doesn’t mean the whole democratic party “sides with the kkk”.

@ m:

I don’t call it Eurabia, yet. But I do believe that is the way they are headed, and it’s pretty messed up.

Most of the second and third generation Muslims with immigration background (integrated or not)don’t have more children than the “host”-society respectively the autochthonal population. But I agree the Muslim population in Europe is still rising especially because of new immigrants. But even though the Muslim population is rising to 10 p.c. it will not be “Eurabia”. Denmarks solution to rise the age for marriage with a woman/man of foreign descent to 25 years could be a roll model. One of the most serious problems in Europe is the burden of the social welfare budgets with uneducated immigrants.

I was in Holland last year, and sometimes I would look around and ask myself if I really WAS in Holland

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Holland/the Netherlands is/are a overcrowded country and immigrants concentrate in the cities. This is a problem. But take also in account that Holland like France or GB had colonies. There have always been immigrants.

And to see that some of it is by design (one of Rodan’s threads last week… I’d link it if I had a moment)?

Sorry didn’t read it. Do you have a link?

I watch as normal people get tired of it and start protesting against it- only to have them called racists for their troubles.

This is one of the most fatal mistakes European politicians made and has opened the doors for right wing populists and fascist groups which took the oppotunity to stoke fears and hate.

I’d say that’s pretty messed up. (and we’re not far behind)

I concur or should I say I totally agree?

I don’t call it Eurabia, yet. But I do believe that is the way they are headed, and it’s pretty messed up. I was in Holland last year, and sometimes I would look around and ask myself if I really WAS in Holland.

And to see that some of it is by design (one of Rodan’s threads last week… I’d link it if I had a moment)?

I watch as normal people get tired of it and start protesting against it- only to have them called racists for their troubles.

I’d say that’s pretty messed up. (and we’re not far behind)

Because by taking pot shots at Wilders, DeWinter, et.al., and you labeling them fascists

I’m not labeling DeWinter et.al. fascist, they are fascists. Wilders is a right wing populist.

“Transnational government structures.” In other words, tranzis, one worlders. Just fucking great. And this makes you worth listening to why?

Yes because he is a vehement opponent of these structures. To study transnational government structures doesn’t mean does one agrees with them.

@admins

please can one of the admins delight my double post? Server probs