Guest Post from savages_girl
This is a story I saw on 60 Minutes last Sunday. I can’t believe this stuff…
Medicare Fraud: A $60 Billion Crime
Or more interesting to watch it here:
Did anybody else see this?
I can’t believe that bilking the government-run Medicare system would be bigger business in Miami than drug trafficking. Who’d have thought? I’m just astounded on the one hand and disgusted on the other.
Anybody have any thoughts to share on this?
SG
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Will there be any medicare or social security left by the time we all retire or should our retirement be just dropping dead at our desks and the cleaning lady discovers you?
First!
re: #1 by Speranza
you must die for the good of your country on the last day of your 67th year while you are at work.
I had to post this, it’s too damn important.
Time for playing games is over….
its sooooo easy to scam the large bureaucracies.
and it’ll get even better when we get 0bamacare!
/do i need to?
re: #2 by coldwarrior
yeah Congressfool Alan Grayson says the Republicnas want you to just die anyway.
“Did anybody else see this?”
No. I refuse to watch60Minutes.
You think there’s fraud & waste now? Just wait until we get Obama/PelosiCare (aka the Ted Kennedy Memorial Health Care Bill) passed.
First thing that comes to my mind is that these are ACORN enabled operations.
Second thing that comes to my mind is that Michelle Obama has personal experience in misuse of hospitals. Look at Chicago not Florida.
Medicare apparently could save a lot of money by just hiring a few address investigators before money dispensed. We all pay for this with tax dollars.
I could run medicare better then medicare does. Just with off the street experience.
I just plan on dropping dead before lack of medical insurance or lack of medical care I can’t afford kicks in.
re: #8 by orangecrush
I’d suggest having address investigators to check on voter fraud too, but that’d be racist.
One thing I wonder. or two or three.
Who is the congresscritter with the most integrity and who is the one with the least? Make a commercial about it. run it everywhere. maybe exclude first termers.
A moveon.org tactic would be to take that 24,000 paid per clunker and make a commercial about it and run it in every close race media market. The GoP seems to be fairly clueless about these opportunities.
Does Eric Holder have integrity? Can he be trusted on his medicare opinions?
re: #10 by mfhorn
voter fraud occure in my area. The politicians and the media like to say that voter registration is “no harm, no foul” therefore do nothing. I say it’s a gateway drug to criming unabated and unlooked at. There are elections being gamed in this country because we are failing to hold voters accountable for being honest.
I don’t know all that much about Medicare. But I do know about Medicaid dentistry. I don’t take it in my office and never have. But anyone who does either has to commit Fraud to make a living or is committing fraud against his or her patients. It’s that simple. The reimburesments are so low that it is impossible any other way.
Massive Medicare Fraud
Sigh…
Yet another example of how setting-up a large publicly funded trough attracts pigs.
And if you think this is bad, just wait ’til Obmamacare becomes the law of the land.
A bigger trough for the pigs to gorge themselves.
re: #12 by orangecrush
‘No harm/no foul’, as long as it’s the Democrat that benefits.
If voter registration fraud doesn’t matter, than neither should the allegations against Diebold and other voting machine companies, right?
re: #10 by mfhorn
I’ve come across race hustlers in person at least 2-3 times that I am aware of. Their whole reason for existence is hate and looking for a way to make money out of gaming the system. putting it to the man. It’s a subculture movement. We had to kick one of them off a budget committee after they tried to implement their suckiness into an organization.
These parastites look for:
1. Real estate loans they can hustle and fraud and suck money out of and walk away from.
2. Creating non profits that under perform and are mainly used to drain taxpayer dollars into private pockets.
Anything with a racial justification for its existence should be examined closely for weasels etc.
This John Stossel 20/20 segment sums up Medicare in 6 minutes. Well worth the 6 minute investment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l2ZE4v9kw4
re: #15 by mfhorn
Yeah I wish I could tyep clearly today. I might make more cents.
If they are not going to fix it, I may help try and break it.
To wit: If this health/control bill passes, and if the Zero is relected in 2012, I just may go Counter Cloward Pliven on them in retribution. I will file for every entitlement that is out there even if I am not eligable. If enough patriotic activists do this as an act of civil disobedience it will eat up their resources and slow down the hoards of true leeches from bellying up to the federal groaning board.
It will make the news, the entitlement minded will physically lash out, and the glorious day will be brought that much closer.
OT: Is iceweasel running 1.0 now? I saw hints of that earlier. I think Charles might have been castrated there.
This John Stossel 20/20 six minute segment provides great insight into medicare:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8l2ZE4v9kw4
re: #19 by orangecrush
selrahC got eaten by a pussy
re: #19 by orangecrush
“OT: Is iceweasel running 1.0 now? I saw hints of that earlier. I think Charles might have been castrated there.”
She is the de facto person running LGF. She runs it (along with her goomba Jimmah) like a dock yard bully. A lot of the people there in private emails to me are sick of it.
Who do you think is paying for those power chairs that the old folks are parking by the Grand Canyon?
re: #22 by kansas
Speaking of power chairs . . .
Cash for Clunkers : Obamacare Edition
re: #18 by Scott Madsen
Obama will make casting calls for all benefit packages.
You will have to come from an official Axlerod certified census area to obtain a first in line ticket to any type of government sponsored benefits.
Rich, white, have cancer? Too bad you will be at the end of the medical benefit line. You can move up by bribing David significantly or taking your health concerns out of country.
I expect to see a social justice credit policy. Or a carbon credit policy created by Al Gore. Where he can buy humanyears from the poor to extend his own importance. He’ll die with a couple of million of poor life years of carbon credits still in his pocket.
re: #21 by Speranza
Then they should get out while the getting is good
re: #23 by BuddyG
Is that kind of like a really late term abortion?
re: #21 by Speranza
Wouldn’t be able to get away with it without being the teacher’s pet.
re: #21 by Speranza
Is iceweasel running 1.0 now?
It kicked my ass out last month.
re: #24 by orangecrush
Don’t forget reparations for slavery!
re: #28 by kansas
What was your indiscrection?
If you think it is big business now, wait until Total National Health Care becomes a reality. Scam and fraud will power ten percent of the economy. That is just a guesstimate, but if healthcare is 1/6th then at least 6% seems a reasonable percent. So maybe 10% of the economy is a little high. Is 2% a better guess? 2% of the total American economy is a shitload of money going into fraud. That is a little over 10% 0f 1/6th. I think. I had to get out the calculator…
re: #31 by Iron Fist
1/6 is 16.6% of the total economy. If we’ve got 10% fraud in there, that’s a bit over 1.5% of the total US economy. Wow!
re: #30 by Nevergiveup
What was your indiscrection?
It was picking on Buzz and Zombie, and I was arguing with it. Got pissed and told it Jimmah and it should get a room, that it would upding Charles if he farted, and that it kissed Sharmutas ass. I logged off and then was blocked. At the time I was kind of assuming that the constant bootlicking was not appreciated. I guess it was.
Fraud is rampant not only in Private Insurance plans but in all Federal ones also. Now Private Insurance companies only want their money back, while the Feds, if they come after you, want blood. But you have to be pretty unlucky, sloppy, or massively defrauding the Feds to have them come after you.
re: #28 by kansas
It has crossed my mind that Iceweasel could be Charles’ sock. I don’t think it is likely, but it is possible. I’m not sure she’s, well, a she, nor am I totally sold on the Brit thing. Originally, when she was new I thought she was Canadian. Just different things she dropped like about their wonderful health care.
That would argue against him/.her being Charles’ sock except it is really hard to tell how far down that rabbit hole goes. Maybe half of them are just Charles talking to himself?Just a couple of thoughts.
re: #26 by kansas
1.0 eats their young
Stocks Slide on Signs of Consumer Weakness; Dow Falls Nearly 250 Points
Stocks Slide on Signs of Consumer Weakness; Dow Falls Nearly 250 Points
Stocks plunged Friday in the face of weak consumer data, erasing a powerful rally the day before and ending a pattern of monthly gains.
By the end of trading, the three major stock averages had more than given up the 2 percent gains they made on Thursday, when enthusiasm over economic growth data sent stocks
surging.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/31/business/31markets.html?hp&emc=na
re: #35 by Iron Fist
I think iceweasel knows all to much about american stuff not to be American.
Any thoughts? Just this, someone tell me the logic of paying for a huge government run health program by eliminating the massive waste and abuse in another huge government run health program. Will we have to wait for another huge government plan before we eliminate the waste and abuse from this next one?
http://www.quantcast.com/littlegreenfootballs.com
Latest Quantcast figures linked above. They’re circling the drain.
re: #35 by Iron Fist
Well, I had this about a week before I was axed. Someone was asking about how David Horowitz’s book was, and Sharmuta started with how Horowitz associates with Nazis, or some bullshit like that, and I pretty much always ignored the Gellar, Spencer, Vlams Belang or whatever, so I jump in and say “What is this, crap on David Horowitz Day”, to Sharmuta I say that, and within about 2 seconds Hisself says “If you don’t respect me, why do you still post here?” I said, what does that have to do with you, then didn’t hear back. A few days later, I’m gone.
I never said much all intellectual anyone, I’m more of a one line bitcher.
re: #3 by savage
Excellent post.
Government efficiency at work!
Whatever may said against the mean ol’ insurance companies, there is NO WAY any private business could be so fleeced.
re: #37 by Guggi
Given that the growth data was all due to government spending why did the market rally at all? You would think that investors would see behind the wizard’s curtain that you can’t spend yourself into wealth.
re: #35 by Iron Fist
Jimmah’s sock.
re: #40 by Moe Katz
That’s been debunked!
/LvQ
re: #37 by Guggi
How long before Obama & Biden blame Bush?
re: #46 by mfhorn
Last month
iceweasel is first amongst equals over there. She only came to LGF in May (I stopped posting in December) so I never interacted with her and basically has taken over. Funny I am curious as to why she came over after all there are much more established lefty blogs like Kos.
The health care bill recently unveiled by Speaker Nancy Pelosi is over 1,900 pages for a reason. It is much easier to dispense goodies to favored interest groups if they are surrounded by a lot of legislative legalese. For example, check out this juicy morsel to the trial lawyers (page 1431-1433 of the bill):
Section 2531, entitled “Medical Liability Alternatives,” establishes an incentive program for states to adopt and implement alternatives to medical liability litigation. [But]…… a state is not eligible for the incentive payments if that state puts a law on the books that limits attorneys’ fees or imposes caps on damages.
So, you can’t try to seek alternatives to lawsuits if you’ve actually done something to implement alternatives to lawsuits. Brilliant! The trial lawyers must be very happy today!
http://biggovernment.com/2009/10/30/pelosi-health-care-bill-blows-a-kiss-to-trial-lawyers/#more-23042
Ofcourse
re: #45 by snork
Ludwig allegedly has a Ph.D., so we’d better take his word for it.
re: #32 by mfhorn
Yeah, at first blush it sounds too huge to believe, but that 10% of a government run health care could be fraud sounds believable from how much health care fraud we hear about in the current system. It is unreal when you look at how much money that would be. If the economy is ten trillion (rough guess) would be about $168 billion dollars a year. Think of it as, I don’t know, the entire porn industry, GDP of Pakistan. The whole thing. Unreal, but that could easily be fraud in a nationalized health care system.
There’s a figure that the Democrats won’t talk about.
re: #24 by orangecrush
“Rich, white, have cancer? Too bad you will be at the end of the medical benefit line.”
People such as that won’t have a lot to loose.
Put it all in a trust for the grand kids and then go hunting.
re: #48 by Speranza
Wasn’t there an accusation that she/it used to post under a different name?
re: #43 by Rancher
What bothers me the most was that in the past, the donkeys at least had real economists who understood the basics. Carter didn’t want to take the medicine, but he eventually did (and whether he intended to or not, he did set the Reagan recovery in motion by appointing Volker to the Fed).
Clinton had the good sense (and political survival instinct) to leave the economy alone.
With this bunch, we’re truly descended into voodoo economics. They’re believers in the broken window theory. And in the face of all that’s going wrong, they still are as convinced as ever of their correctness.
We have witch doctors running policy. Science in its rightful place, my itching butt.
Horowitz is a Nazi? Yikes!
Who knew?
re: #48 by Speranza
They needed an alpha-prog.
Democrats want you to know that your McDonald’s Angus Burger meal has about 1,500 calories — before you buy and burp.
Buried deep in the House health care bill is a provision, likely to raise nanny-state hackles, requiring fast-food chains and vending machine owners to notify customers of calorie counts — by conspicuously posting nutritional information on menus or machines.
The provision — Section 2572 — requires retail food establishments “part of a chain with 20 or more locations” to list calorie counts “on the menu board including a drive-through board,” as is currently required in New York City and other localities.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/glennthrush/1009/Health_care_bill_Calorie_counts_for_Big_Macs_vending_machines.html
It’s gonna get expensive. Oh by the way any moron who thinks a big Mac is good for ya gets what he/she deserves. I eat them but I don’t give a shit
White House Chalks Up 650,000 Jobs to Stimulus
The federal stimulus program has saved or created nearly 650,000 jobs through aid to states, infrastructure projects and federal contracts, the Obama administration claimed Friday morning, adding that officials believe they are on track to meet their goal of 3.5 million jobs over two years.
The new figures are based on reports being released today from 131,000 recipients of the stimulus money and are intended to give the clearest sense to date of how many jobs are being created or saved directly by the stimulus. Until this month, most jobs figures have been based on the estimates of economists —not actual reports.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/31/us/31stimulus.html?_r=1&8au&emc=au
List of top false job claims
http://republican.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=blogs.home
via The Strata-Sphere
http://strata-sphere.com/blog/
re: #44 by snork
Yup, his feminine side.
re: #57 by Nevergiveup
That’ll raise the menu prices, making it an INDIRECT, HIDDEN tax on (drum roll, please) the middle class- people making less than $250,000 per year.
re: #54 by snork
I think they know what they’re doing, it’s not about health care or the economy, the overriding concern is to get as much control into governments hands consequences be damned. Obama is willing to give up his re-election and Pelosi is willing to throw the blue dogs to the wolves to get these massive programs signed into law.
Public Option Fail!
It’s been tried.
Right here in the birthplace of the big “0″(pronounced zero).
http://www.grassrootinstitute.org/health-care/hawaii-drops-universal-childrens-health-care-plan
And it was killed by legal acts, not fraud.
btw medicare fraud is nothing new under the sun. Wondering why 60 minutes chose to “expose” it now considering the “urgent” need for the commies to revamp it and take over private healthcare.All laid out in 1900 plus indecipherable pages.
Just to inform those who might be interested.
BECK will have Monkton on today.
Mr. Johnson will not sully his ears with anything he has to day because the Monkton coat of arms is similar to that of the house of lords. Mr. J thinks this is a fraudulent attempt by Monkton to claim to be representing that august scientific body and to have its imprimatur.
Do not be sidetracked by heraldry. Tune in.
re: #63 by vagabond trader
Maybe someone didn’t get the memo?
re: #63 by vagabond trader
Good point. Maybe CBS isn’t totally in B. Husseins camp. Or it could be they see the danger B. Hussein poses to all the MSM with the stunt they tried to pull in shutting up FOX.
re: #63 by vagabond trader
Like Fox after the ACORN stories, they are now no longer a news organization. Maybe they felt they were becoming irrelevant.
re: #64 by Overlook
We also need to know what to think next.
Beck – better than a Zionist check.
re: #65 by Nevergiveup
Should have used the sarc tag,I know very well why they are hammering medicare.The fraud needs addressing,just not at the cost of 1 trillion plus dollars and the relinquishing of our freedoms.
Where’s the new Reagan?
————–
“Our party must be the party of the individual. It must not sell out the individual to cater to the group. No greater challenge faces our society today than ensuring that each one of us can maintain his dignity and his identity in an increasingly complex, centralized society. Extreme taxation, excessive controls, oppressive government competition with business … frustrated minorities and forgotten Americans are not the products of free enterprise. They are the residue of centralized bureaucracy, of government by a self-anointed elite. Our party must be based on the kind of leadership that grows and takes its strength from the people. Any organization is in actuality only the lengthened shadow of its members. A political party is a mechanical structure created to further a cause. The cause, not the mechanism, brings and holds the members together. And our cause must be to rediscover, reassert and reapply America’s spiritual heritage to our national affairs. Then with God’s help we shall indeed be as a city upon a hill with the eyes of all people upon us.” –Ronald Reagan
Do we have any admins in the room? It seems the previous thread got linked by a grossbot. Recommend delinking and blocking.
re: #69 by vagabond trader
It’s a good question though. The timing couldn’t have pleased Obama, and these were the guys who committed fraud to influence a wartime election because they didn’t like the Republican.
re: #66 by song_and_dance_man
Actually I believe they ARE doing the bidding of Hussein & Co. Tell all the folks how medicare is infested with eeeevil fraud thus making dismantling it acceptable.Suspect timing. Big gov to the rescue. What a joke.
re: #72 by Rancher
Yup, my thoughts.I trust no one affiliated with BHO. No one.
re: #66 by song_and_dance_man
Remember, one of the ways the Dems claim that they’re going to pay for Obamacare is by getting rid of all that fraud and waste in Medicare.
Maybe 60 Minutes was actually trying to help the Dems out, by pointing it out: “See? There really is that much money being wasted!”
Of course, the obvious question raised by all this is, if they know there’s that much fraud and waste in Medicare, and they know who’s behind it, why does it take a government takeover of the rest of the healthcare industry to stop it? How about if you go get all that money back first, and then we can talk about the other stuff?
re: #73 by vagabond trader
If that is the case it could backfire bigtime. As many have pointed out here, if the FED can’t manage Medicare how can people have faith they will be able to manage a bigger entitlement.
re: #75 by lobo91
Yeah, I now tend to agree with you and vagabond. By now you will have read my 76.
re: #73 by vagabond trader
To highlight government incompetence to promote a massive new government program is pretty stupid. Not that this administration has acted like a bunch of geniuses but for crying out loud how dumb would that be? That would be like attacking a news organization, all it would do would make you look like a petty whiner and boost their ratings. Oh wait….
Lord Monkton is on Beck right now discussing the Climate Treaty.
re: #76 by song_and_dance_man
We know that but librals don’t.They worship big gov as the key to utopia.Besides, all that has happened in the past is Bushs fault.
OT:
Great new website found at Loppys.
http://www.mycongressmanisnuts.com/
re: #64 by Overlook
Beck hosting Monckton, who has a coat of arms?
Since to CJ all heraldic devices are crypto-fascist, that’s a diabolical trifecta!
BECK + DENIER + EURO-FASCISM
Wow! If we could just persuade Monckton to wear a F*** Darwin t-shirt, Chucky could reach paranoic perfection!
re: #78 by Rancher
Bush is to blame.
Libral mind over and out.
re: #82 by vagabond trader
Of course, how did I not see that coming?
re: #21 by Speranza
Why don’t they just write a good bye post and leave the toxic dump behind? There’s nothing there to stay for.
re: #75 by lobo91
What right does government have to interfere with our private healthcare?
Power and control. They don’t give a flip about quality care or waste and fraud.
re: #75 by lobo91
THIS is the question the MSM should be asking when all the talking heads are on this Sunday.
re: #85 by vagabond trader
Because they can
re: #84 by teacake
They think 1.0 is still relevant.
re: #85 by vagabond trader
They don’t give a flip about rights, either, except in the context of inventing new ones out of thin air.
How many times have you heard some leftist talk about a “right to healthcare” lately?
re: #79 by song_and_dance_man
If only people will listen to his message. I’m not a religious person, not even a superstitious person, but from what is said about who the anti Christ is in Revelations, all sort of red alert sirens go off in regards to obama & co. These people are pure ice cold, evil.
re: #88 by song_and_dance_man
Why? HAHAHA!!! That’s funny S&DM.
re: #89 by lobo91
How can health care be a ‘right’? Isn’t a right something that don’t impose an obligation on someone else?
Free speech doesn’t impose a right for me to provide a forum for you to speak, it just means I have to let you have your say.
Freedom of Religion doesn’t mean that I have to provide a place of worship, it just means I have to let you practice your faith, as far as it doesn’t interfere with the rights of someone else.
All they really need to do is label all “waste” and “fraud” as “taxes” then just let the IRS dogs loose.
Why don’t they see if they can make EXISTING health programs solvent and reasonably fraud-free before expanding them?
That’s been the question from the beginning.
Sorry, but I’m still in utter awe at what passes for intelligence at the funny farm:
That’s it??? If that’s all there is to it, why did we bother with the IPCC? You could have saved the UN a buttload of money by just typing that up.
Damn. Why didn’t I realize it was that simple…
re: #92 by mfhorn
Well the US is a signatory of the UN Declaration of Human Rights, article 25 of which reads:
Article 25.
* (1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.
Was only half listening to Rush today as he read some of the pages off of the 2000 pages. Lots of new taxes and regulations just about for everything. Even some sort of regulation on vending machines and things to do with social networkings online.
The Rights & Obligations of Liberty
http://patriotpost.us/alexander/2009/10/22/the-rights-and-obligations-of-liberty/
re: #90 by teacake
The term antichrist in not found in Johns book, the Revelation. Also, this is not well known, but the term actually means in place of, or a pseudo christ. I can assure you B. Hussein is not him.
When he does show he will appear to all as a real messiah and not like the mockery that inhabits the White House.
re: #93 by bar
Funny how the IRS is the only truly efficient federal agency. But then, its function is the only one our overlords actually care about.
re: #94 by wolfie
Too easy and I guess not enough opportunity for fraud, misuse and control? Sure would be a very easy way to go.
re: #96 by Moe Katz
Pardon my French, but f-ck the UN
re: #102 by mfhorn
Your country signed it
re: #97 by teacake
I perked up when he read the part about it becoming ILLEGAL to purchase private health insurance starting in 2013.
I think I’m going to download the bill and have Kinkos print it out for me.
re: #99 by song_and_dance_man
Well, a heck of a lot of people do see him as a real messiah – just us normal folk don’t.
re: #95 by snork
Because you’re not an arrogant enough boor to call yourself “Ludwig.”
Has anyone seen GOTC around?
re: #104 by loppyd
Do you have a page on blogspot to post some of the scarier pages on?
re: #102 by mfhorn
Yeah, Moe. If Canada wants it, you guys are welcome to it. You can just show up with a barge, and put the cereal box on it, and tow it up the waterway.
Just don’t put it on the West Coast. Yellowknife might be a good spot.
re: #104 by loppyd
You do realize the huge carbon footprint that will be made by the printing of that tome?
/
re: #108 by teacake
I have a page on Wordpress and plan on getting something up daily if possible.
Click my nic.
re: #107 by loppyd
She was here this morning.
re: #110 by song_and_dance_man
Blame Queen Nancy!
re: #92 by mfhorn
I have a feeling all this came about from having a right to be taken to an emergency room if you get smashed up in an auto wreck or as a victim of violence.
re: #107 by loppyd
She checks in in the am, and then again in the pm. Pretty predictable in the am, but I don’t remember what hours are typical in the pm.
Haven’t seen her this pm.
re: #109 by snork
This is the way the rest of the developed world sees it. You Yanks are gonna get dragged, some of you kicking and screaming, into the modern world.
re: #111 by loppyd
Cool, will read it more closely a little later.
How did you get the nick to click?
re: #100 by wolfie
Well that one and counterfeiting, other then that, nobody really cares much.
re: #112 by song_and_dance_man
Thanks.
If anyone here has her email and also has my email would you please ask her to get in touch?
I need her to update the prayer list…
re: #117 by teacake
It was an option to add when I signed up.
re: #115 by snork
Thanks. We always miss each other…
re: #103 by Moe Katz
I didn’t.
Neither did any of our Founding Fathers, who knew the difference between civil rights and property rights on the one hand, and a letter to Santa Claus and blank check for despotism on the other.
re: #103 by Moe Katz
Was never ratified.
re: #116 by Moe Katz
Dubai would be a good place if you guys don’t want that gawdforsaken abomination.
re: #117 by teacake
Go up to the top and click “profile”. You can change yours.
I forgot to ask if the 60 Minutes piece found a way to blame Bush.
re: #106 by Bunk X
Bunk please….the correct spelling is..
LUDSQUID.
Thank you.
re: #116 by Moe Katz
The UN is going to show us how to be modern and civilized? The same corrupt UN that doesn’t provide rudimentary needs like fresh clean water and mosquito nets for its less civilized members?You’re a sketch tonite Moe!
re: #125 by snork
THanks!
re: #95 by snork
remember?
New paper from Lindzen demonstrates low climate sensitivity with observational data
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/07/23/new-paper-from-lindzen/#more-9519
Test
some type of test….
test 1 2 3
Har har
I was seeing if I could add something to my nic
NY23: Dems Bringing in Big Money Against Hoffman
Lots of union people pouring into upstate New York, and I guess big time TV ad buys against Hoffman.
Oh, story by Robert Stacy McCain. I never would have recognized that name before he was accused of describing inter-racial dating as repugnant. Interweb searches on multiple search engines all lead back to a single source, a blog that accused him of that without source or attribution.
But here is where, if rural upstate New York, dairy farms and ski mountains and Fort Drum, Home of the 10th Mountain Division, is anything like the put down of Pennsylvania I have heard (Philadelphia and Pittsburgh, with Alabama in between), ie, fly over yokels who clong to guns and Bibles, explicitly making this a referendum on Obama is probably a bad move.
re: #116 by Moe Katz
There is nothing ‘modern’ about trading freedom for security. There is nothing ‘modern’ about government control of the economy. There is nothing ‘modern’ about having a politically empowered priesthood enforcing visions of holy justice on the people. There is nothing ‘modern’ about having said priesthood force tithes to pay for it.
If you say that classical liberal institutions are doomed, that universal suffrage must undermine property rights, that all democracies will inevitably end in bureaucratic despotism, that the lack of a common transcendent referrent means the end of rule-by-law, etc. etc., etc., fine. I also believe that ordered liberty is doomed. But let’s not pretend we are talking about progress. We are talking about the end of the brief moment of ordered liberty. We are talking about destruction, decay, and suicide.
I can’t get my blog to link, does it have to be on Wordpress?
re: #128 by vagabond trader
No, you guys are going to get dragged into modernity because an reactionary, angry white hypertensive obese male like your defacto current Republican leader can no longer pull enough support to set the political agenda. Most of this group here doesn’t see it, but that direction for the GOP is a cul-de-sac.
Filthily infidels.
Worst Muslim more far better one thousand infidels.
re: #138 by Moe Katz
Rush?
re: #136 by wolfie
Eek! So you think the rest of the developed world is that bad? Anyway, I’m off to the gym.
re: #140 by Rancher
Chopped liver?
re: #138 by Moe Katz
Ok.
**shrugs**
I can’t be bothered, is Chuckles still on jihad about Robert McCain, or is that all last month’s wackiness?
re: #137 by Rancher
It is linking.
If your nic is supposed to link to a Blogspot blog called Llano Estacado (The Staked Plain), it works…
re: #144 by Ed Mahmoud
You mean KKKRobert McKKKain…the Bad.Crazy.Racist?
LOL
re: #130 by Guggi
Seriously, I wonder if 1.0’s resident climatologist knows what a climate sensitivity is, or how you calculate it.
Yeah,I can hardly wait until the civilized world advises us on getting our cow farts under control.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/science/earth-environment/article6895907.ece
re: #148 by snork
He is working on that right after the mouse cages get cleaned!
re: #138 by Moe Katz
Chuck. You need to ban yourself for posting at the stalker blog.
re: #149 by vagabond trader
Well, the obvious answer is that we should stop enslaving and murdering the cows in the first place, and let them live happy, carefree lives out on the prairie with the deer and the antelope.
re: #151 by snork
I send him his talking points. Don’t tell anyone.
re: #148 by snork
re: #153 by Moe Katz
A mental health professional isn’t supposed to rattle the cages.
re: #151 by snork
Moe doesn’t like Rush.
Doesn’t listen to him….but somehow doesn’t like him.
BTW Moe, Rush has lost a lot of weight.
He is no longer even considered heavy.
If you checked it out for yourself instead of listening to others you would have known that.
re: #152 by lobo91
No good,they’ll still be flatulent.
I saw that Kroft segment on 60 Minutes.
I believe the point was that we need to let Obama clean up the fraud & corruption in Medicare & those savings will float ObamaCare.
Itook another point, that it would be nutty to inctrease the gpovernment model.
re: #157 by vagabond trader
True, but if they’re living in the wild instead of on farms, they won’t count.
You haven’t heard anyone talking about water buffalo farts, have you?
Besides…cows are fairly stupid. If they were turned loose to live on their own, they’d probably become extinct in a few years.
Problem solved.
Hey everybody.
re: #158 by RIX
Did they explain why we need a 1900 page monstrosity shoved up our collective snouts in order to clean up the fraud?
re: #158 by RIX
Ok how about this.
Clean up the fraud.
PROVE IT.
THEN change healthcare.
re: #159 by lobo91
LOLOLOL!
Uh-oh. I tried to warn you all about Big Chicken. What I didn’t realize is that there’s a conspiracy between defense contractors, Big Chicken, and the religious right.
Incestuous! I’ll bet they’re white supremacists, too. I can’t prove it, but it’s pretty obvious…
Dogs and cats living in sin. The sheep lies down with the lion. Aerobatic porkers. Blizzards in hell…
http://pajamasmedia.com/instapundit/87570/
Moe is right,we should start walking upright, burn the Constitution and hand over the shop to the UN.How bad could it be?/
http://www.unwatch.org/site/c.bdKKISNqEmG/b.1277549/k.BF70/Home.htm
re: #159 by lobo91
Now you did it. You managed to deny the global warming capacity of flatulence and be a racist all in one sentence.
re: #163 by vagabond trader
Besides, if we don’t turn the cows loose, in a couple of years they’re going to be demanding government-provided vetrinary care.
Cass Sunstein will see to it (for a 40% contingency fee, of course…)
re: #161 by vagabond trader
re: #162 by typicalwhitey
They didn’t mention the House Bill that Pelosi rolled out, because it hadn’t happened yet.
My question is, if Obama knows all about the fraud & how to stop it, why wait for ObamaCare?
Do it now.
It depends where they live, and what breed, wouldn’t it?
Heck, if the American Bison can produce fertile young with a cow, that suggests bison and cows are subspecies of the same species.
From the former Oklahoma A&M College…
re: #162 by typicalwhitey
“”"Ok how about this.
Clean up the fraud.
PROVE IT.
THEN change healthcare”"”
Ya that will not happen. It should but it will not.
re: #170 by Ed Mahmoud
Unless the cows actually authored the study, that doesn’t mean they’re smart.
re: #170 by Ed Mahmoud
The bison can find grass under the snow. Domestic cattle can’t. Domestic cattle wouldn’t survive a winter in the wild.
re: #127 by typicalwhitey
Oh gawd. Another spelling nazi.
this obamacare, Its gonna be great, just like going to the VA, wait 6 months for an appointment, get there 15 minutes early, wait another half a day, see a different doctor everytime for just 10 minutes, then go pick up your prescription of happy pills till next time, see its easy
Ok, have a good evening, everyone.
In the nine years I have lived in my house (and cattle graze on the gas leases that border my subdivision) we have had snow that covered the grass once. December 10, 2008. It started accumulating about 6 pm, stopped accumulating about 10 pm, was completely gone the next morning when I woke for work.
I think the cattle can go 12 hours without grass.
The Christmas Eve Snow Miracle, December 24, 2004, did dust my car and the fronds on my palm tree, but never accumulated on the grass.
A domestic cattle that is 3/8th bison might look under the snow, even up where the Yankees live.
re: #175 by Geogrunt
This is an unintentional parody of the British medical system:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSHdj-jqDeM
To the Brits, this is just humor. To us, it’s a heads up.
re: #178 by Ed Mahmoud
There are cattle in NYC?
re: #169 by RIX
Guess thats what I was trying to say.
180
Everywhere North of 35º is Yankeeland.
They had cows when I was stationed Upstate…
Quittin’ time.
OT:
Don’t ever joke with a dictator!
In 1944, lieutenant colonel Darges’ relationship with Hitler changed at a conference when Hitler ordered him to destroy a fly that buzzed around the room.
Darges suggested that, as it was an “airborne pest,” the job should go to the Luftwaffe staff officer, Nicolaus von Below.
Enraged, Hitler dismissed Darges, yelling, “You’re for the eastern front,” and Darges was sent to combat.
re: #183 by IslandLibertarian
They aren’t known for their sense of humor. Some things never change.
re: #184 by vagabond trader
I’ll bet nobody jokes with Pelosi.
re: #185 by lobo91
yeah, who would want to have to explain punch lines over and over and over and…..
re: #185 by lobo91
http://www.saynotocrack.com/index.php/2007/06/24/nancy-pelosi-im-no-wuss-plucks-out-own-eyeball-as-proof/
Friday afternoon White House document dump.
Visitor logs released.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2009/10/white-house-posts-visitor-lists-is-that-the-bill-ayers-no.html
That’s because if she smiles, shards of porcelain will be flying in all directions.
re: #185 by lobo91
“”"I’ll bet nobody jokes with Pelosi”"”
She is a joke
re: #186 by IslandLibertarian
I wonder what the Dems’ equivalent to sending someone to the Eastern Front is?
Go to one of the Tea Parties and pass out pro-Obama signs, maybe?
re: #53 by Nevergiveup
“Wasn’t there an accusation that she/it used to post under a different name?”
Yes there was an accusation because she knew more about Josephine then she should have.
re: #192 by Speranza
Did they talk to each other?
Good evening, y’all.
Is this the FNDT?
re: #156 by typicalwhitey
I love Rush. If I don’t get to listen to his show I get grouchy.
It’s like that. He has a great sense of humor and really knows his stuff. He is, after all, right 99,3% of the time.
Zero attacked him within days of taking office. They know who to fear.
re: #175 by Geogrunt
That’s why my brother doesn’t go unless he really has to.
re: #138 by Moe Katz
AS IF your precious Canada is more “modern” than the United States of America. I’d say they were about the same as far as “modernity” goes. Well, except for your terribly inadequate medical care system. How long do you have to wait for an MRI now? 6 months? where, if i put the effort into it, I can have one within a day when needed.
re: #194 by goddessoftheclassroom
Are you ready for it?!
~:D
re: #194 by goddessoftheclassroom
Goddess!
How are you?
I was asking for you earlier…
Would you please update the prayer list to include prayers for the family of “L” who passed away yesterday?
Thanks.
re: #195 by chickadee
Me too! I rush clients off the phone so I can run out to my car and hear the beginning on my lunchtime drive.
re: #197 by Kirly
I’m pretty sure that I could get an MRI for my dog within a day.
And she doesn’t even have insurance.
re: #147 by typicalwhitey
You know? I’ve heard 100% more racism from KKKilgore fuckin’ Trout than I’ve heard from Robert Stacey McCain. I have, indeed, heard too much racism form KKKilgore, and frankley none from Robert Stacey McCain. Clearly Charles sees something that the rest of us do not (and doesn’t see something that is as obvious as the
nose on his facebone in his nose).re: #191 by lobo91
Ambassadorship to Somalia?
Press corp in Afghanistan?
Michelle’s gopher?
re: #201 by lobo91
Has your dog been begging you for one?
re: #199 by loppyd
{loppyd}
Done.
Interesting point: For a long time, the Prayer List fit on one page. As more friends found The Blogmocracy and added their own prayer requests, the list has grown to almost two pages.
I’d like to share this will all of you–it would be nice for a Sunday thread, too. Even if the lyrics mean nothing to you, the vocal talent should still give you chills.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMVxzEueJ6A
Goddess, also please check #308 on this thread. Daughter of Eve’s family needs prayers.
re: #197 by Kirly
I think he be yanking our chains. Just indulging his inner troll.
re: #204 by Bunk X
No. She prefers peanut butter-filled pretzels, actually.
re: #206 by m
Done.
My hearts aches for her. May she and her family feel the love of God and the comfort of the angels.
re: #205 by goddessoftheclassroom
Thank you very much!
re: #204 by Bunk X
She was also highly offended by that story the other day claiming that she has the same carbon footprint as an SUV.
re: #201 by lobo91
yep. always faster without all that paperwork.
i scheduled an ultrasound for my cat in 2 days. my CAT!
Grrrrrrrrr.
re: #206 by m
That is just so incredibly sad.
re: #211 by lobo91
Tell the bitch to get over it. I’m fighting against global cooling.
re: #214 by loppyd
I know. I felt so bad reading that and not being able to even give her a hug.
~:(
re: #216 by m
{Eve} if you are lurking, prayers abound…
re: #202 by Iron Fist
I really think that idiot is a racist. He is too focused on proving that others are racists by setting them up. It is certainly an odd fixation at best.
It reminds me of assholes who start fires and them try to be heros by helping to put them out. KKKt is weird.
We’re Waiting, Mr. President
Obama Must Provide Better Leadership on Afghanistan
Afghanistan and Pakistan are being shaken by attacks, and the Taliban is dictating the course of the war. US President Obama has been silent about the situation for far too long and European countries like Germany and France are correct to demand better American leadership on the issue of Afghanistan.
snip
Europe Expects Leadership
What the US military wants is clear. General Stanley McChrystal, the US commander in Afghanistan, has called for up to 40,000 more troops. He too makes no mention of a speedy victory.
So far Obama has only made it clear that he doesn’t intend to withdraw any troops and that he hasn’t decided yet whether to add more soldiers. But this smells more like a lazy compromise than a clear statement of intent, and it has led to speculation in Washington that Obama could wash his hands of the matter by announcing a moderate troop buildup and newly packaged diplomatic initiatives.
But that is precisely not what US citizens want. Some believe that the war no longer makes sense, and they favor withdrawal. Others want to see the US finally tackle the effort with whatever it takes.
Obama’s silence stands in contrast with the impassioned rhetoric that carried him into the White House. He risks squandering the biggest advantage of his term in office: the serious attempt to make an honest assessment of his predecessor’s legacy. It also represented a great opportunity to restructure the Atlantic alliance. But why should countries like Germany and France believe the verbose promises of a president who is not even sending a clear message at home, even though he has a majority in both houses of Congress?
There is no doubt that hardly a day passes in Europe without criticism of US policy. This has become a trans-Atlantic ritual. But despite this ritual, Europeans are still looking for one thing from the White House: leadership.
We’re waiting, Mr. President.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,658037,00.html
re: #218 by chickadee
I said to someone once that KKKTrout reminds me of the character played by Chris Cooper in American Beauty.
(new thread)
re: #220 by loppyd
I picture Chris Farley. Without the humor. ~:)
re: #220 by loppyd
I didn’t see it. But I will check it out.
Good to see you here loppyd.
re: #223 by chickadee
Likewise chickadeeeeee!
Hi blog-o-philes! Glad to see all the posts!
re: #188 by loppyd
WTH? I’m no expert and would love to know the odds of these luminaries name doubles visiting the WH.
re: #224 by loppyd
I love birds, what can I say. LOL
{loppy}
re: #225 by savages_girl
Hey SG!
re: #225 by savages_girl
Hey savages_girl, great guest post.
re: #226 by vagabond trader
Particularly Malik Shabazz.
That one seems particularly unlikely for some reason…
re: #230 by lobo91
No kidding,lies and more lies.Notice how they justify the names by citing the dozens in the local white pages.Waaay too much explanation from the WH hack, bet his palms were all sweaty. Transparent indeed, we see right thru you criminals.
re: #207 by snork
e: #197 by Kirly
“I think he be yanking our chains. Just indulging his inner troll.”
No, not really. I just erupt from time to time because this bunch is so far right that I’m constantly rubbed the wrong way.
re: #229 by chickadee
#228 and #229 – HI! Yoo-Hoo for Friday nights! Aweekend of blogging, etc. I think I’m going to ask Ssavage to post a picture of my Halloween costume tomorrow in honor of Halloween. Thanks for posting on this thread…some things just get a person going…
re: #233 by savages_girl
Inability to type with long nails…
re: #197 by Kirly
What’s the waiting time in the U.S. for non-emergency MRI is you don’t have the dough?
re: #235 by Moe Katz
Or if your American HMO says no?
re: #235 by Moe Katz
Seven day wait when my wife needed one on her shoulder. For a CT scan its same day. Probably could have gotte nteh MRI same day, but there were issues. My wife is a gun shot victim, and there were concerns about the bullet fragmants moving in the machine. They did.
re: #237 by JeremyR
That’s basically in the domain of emergency care, in which all systems are fast. You start to see the differences as the problem becomes less acute and rationing systems as applied by national health services, HMO’s, begin to play a role.
re: #238 by Moe Katz
ASSHOLE! unlike Canada, they don’t demand proof of insurance just to make an appointment.
regarding your #235 about everyone here being so far right… and yet you keep gracing us with your annoying presence.
re: #239 by Moe Katz
HMO???? are you mad? if i wanted Canadian style “medical care”, i’d just move there!
re: #242 by Kirly
Seems the median wait time in Canada for MRI and CAT scans is two weeks, not six months. Are you a paid propagandist for the American health insurance industry or are you just brainwashed by them?
re: #243 by Kirly
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-payer_health_care
Linky for the above.
So you’re effectively admitting in your #239 that there are different standards of care for Americans depending on coverage or lack thereof. A situation like that is not considered acceptable in the rest of the developed world, and you know the tide of public sentiment is turning in your own country too.
Finally, what’s this bitching about me expressing a viewpoint further left than the consensus here at 2.0? This is supposed to be the ‘blogmocracy’ … not Charlie’s Place. Why do you feel compelled to resort to insults?