Obama’s Nixonian Personality

President Barack Hussein Obama through his Change and Hope campaign, attempted to portray himself as the New Kennedy. However with his nasty attacks on Fox News, the US. Chamber of Commerce and Conservative Critics, he hardly is pushing hope. If there is a President Obama resembles, it is Richard Nixon. Nixon had an enemies list and was a ruthless politician. He attacked his enemies without mercy and was arrogant.

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In his book Nixonland: The Rise of a President and the Fracturing of America, historian Rick Perlstein argues the seeds of today’s polarized politics were sown during the 1960s and 1970s. He traces the fault lines of contemporary controversies such as marriage, abortion, the environment, the role of government and even the very terms of our national self-image, back to this earlier period.

President Nixon stepped into those stormy times and helped define a language of politics still used today–a “silent majority” of middle-class, conservative-leaning, middle-American “people of faith,” versus a more cosmopolitan, secular, and liberal-leaning “live and let live” crowd.

Perlstein’s formulation may be oversimplified, but President Barack Obama pledged to end it. He promised “change” and to stop the polarized politics of the past. He asserted America was on the brink of death by division. We needed to come together. But now President Obama stands at the edge of the same abyss. And many believe he has fallen into the same swamp of bitterness and polarization he promised to end. Recent poll trends support this conclusion.

Read the rest.

Richard Nixon and Obama have other things in common, both were men of the Left. Nixon was a Progressive Republican. He implemented Price Controls, Environmental Regulations and Affirmative Action. Obama is following down the same path with his Progressive Economics policy of Control. The result of Nixon’s policies was Inflation for a whole decade. Obama’s policies of massive spending will head down that same road.

John Kennedy on the other hand lowered taxes and Built up the Military. JFK also stood up to our enemies and didn’t allow the Soviets to put missiles in Cuba. Obama wants to raise taxes and is weakening the military by his indecision on the Afghan Troop requests. JFK was a Conservative Democrat by any standards.

Barack Hussein Obama you are not the new John F. Kennedy, you are the new Richard Nixon!

Update: Just to clarify things, I am not stating that Obama and Nixon are exactly alike. Nixon was a Patriot and a supporter if Israel. Obama is a Transnationalist and hates Israel. I am comparing Obama’s and Nixon’s Leftist polices. I am also highlighting the fact that Obama like Nixon has an enemies list and is a nasty person. Both Nixon and Obama’s economic policies are disastrous That is what I am comparing.

In summary, Obama’s policies and personality are more like Nixon than Kennedy.

Update II: Another thing to clarify, Obama and Nixon had totally different foreign polcies. Nixon didn’t back-stab allies, while Obama does.

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  1. song_and_dance_man
    1 | October 29, 2009 2:08 pm

    B. Hussein, you are no Jack Kennedy.


  2. Nevergiveup
    2 | October 29, 2009 2:09 pm

    Personally I don’t like the comparison. I get where your coming from, but what ever Nixon was, and with all his faults, he was VERY EXPERIENCED, and had a keen sense of history. And again with all his faults, Nixon LOVED AMERICA.


  3. CloudyDay
    3 | October 29, 2009 2:10 pm

    OT/ Blog Admins:
    Just sent y’all another e-mail about my Halloween guest post, please check it out.
    Thank you!


  4. 4 | October 29, 2009 2:14 pm

    I could be wrong, but this isn’t what Rodan meant was it?

    http://thm-a02.yimg.com/image/4c1f405b9b83ad8a


  5. mfhorn
    6 | October 29, 2009 2:17 pm

    re: #1 by song_and_dance_man

    I’d take Jack Kennedy over the Bamster any day. As someone posted the other day, Kennedy would be a right wing extremist if he were around today.


  6. mfhorn
    7 | October 29, 2009 2:18 pm

    Obama raises his arms and says ‘I am not a Muslim.’ and “I am not a citizen of Kenya”


  7. snork
    8 | October 29, 2009 2:20 pm

    Barack Hussein Obama you are not the new John F. Kennedy, you are the new Richard Nixon!

    And that makes Biden…


  8. song_and_dance_man
    9 | October 29, 2009 2:20 pm

    re: #6 by mfhorn

    He may have ended up like Reagan who said, “I didn’t leave the Democratic Party. The party left me”, and joined us on the right.


  9. song_and_dance_man
    10 | October 29, 2009 2:21 pm

    re: #8 by snork

    And that makes Biden…

    …a Johnson!


  10. song_and_dance_man
    11 | October 29, 2009 2:22 pm

    Oh wait…


  11. mfhorn
    12 | October 29, 2009 2:23 pm

    re: #9 by song_and_dance_man

    Somehow the idea of Ted Kennedy calling his brother a ‘radical right wing extremist’ seems really weird.


  12. snork
    13 | October 29, 2009 2:23 pm

    Nixon goes to China, and comes back with egg foo yong.

    Obama goes to Norway, and comes back with egg on his face.


  13. mfhorn
    14 | October 29, 2009 2:24 pm

    re: #10 by song_and_dance_man

    That’s an image I didn’t need…


  14. song_and_dance_man
    15 | October 29, 2009 2:26 pm

    Rodan,

    You missed a gem and it should have been in the Entry.

    After ten months in office a clear pattern has emerged. Instead of hope and change, it’s blame and attack. Obama rarely gives a speech about a pressing national problem–the economy, health care, the budget deficit–without blaming Republicans or former president George W. Bush. For many Americans it’s getting old. It makes the president look small and petty. Does he want America’s respect or its pity?

    Now that is a picture worth hanging in the bathroom of Larry David with one big nail.


  15. mfhorn
    16 | October 29, 2009 2:27 pm

    If Nixon was called ‘Tricky Dick’ by his foes, can we call Obama ‘Bullsh-t Barack’?


  16. vagabond trader
    17 | October 29, 2009 2:28 pm

    re: #2 by Nevergiveup

    With you.Remembering the Nixon years very well and the Watergate hearings.Nixon was dealt with according to our Constitution.Not once did I fear for my country then as I do now. Also,it was Nixons intervention in 1973 which saved Israel.

    The enemies list is Nixonian for all the good it did the disgraced potus.


  17. song_and_dance_man
    18 | October 29, 2009 2:29 pm

    re: #13 by snork

    But is was nobel in intent.


  18. song_and_dance_man
    19 | October 29, 2009 2:29 pm

    re: #16 by mfhorn

    Trickus Dickus?


  19. Iron Fist
    20 | October 29, 2009 2:30 pm

    re: #8 by snork

    I know, I know, I know! Biden is a horse’s ass!

    :twisted:


  20. Scott Madsen
    21 | October 29, 2009 2:33 pm

    Consider this when you head to the polls on Tuesday. If any races on the ballot are inconsequential to your political leanings or desires, that is your vote won’t make a differance (especially when it is all Proggy Donks on a ballot line), it may help to agitate the proggier pollworkers if you write in an epithat or two clarifying your respect for Dear Leader.

    Our County is %80 Demcong and I intend to send them a message or two on Tuesday.


  21. song_and_dance_man
    22 | October 29, 2009 2:36 pm

    re: #21 by Scott Madsen

    Our County is %80 Demcong and I intend to send them a message or two on Tuesday.

    Shirley, you’re not going to vote twice and upset those who do the same thing?

    /


  22. 23 | October 29, 2009 2:37 pm

    It would be interesting to see if Obama shakes hands the same way Nixon is doing there. His pose is very defensive (for obvious reasons).

    Of course that would assume Obama would deign to let the commoners touch his person. After all, he’s the King of America now.


  23. 24 | October 29, 2009 2:39 pm

    re: #2 by Nevergiveup

    Nixon did love America, but still he was a Leftwing republican. He also was paranoid and had an enemies list.

    I am not comparing Nixon’s Patriotism to Obama’s Tansnationalism.

    Just pointing out that Obama is more like Nixon than he is JFK.

    I will update the post accordingly.


  24. wolfie
    25 | October 29, 2009 2:39 pm

    The Clintons also had an enemies list and used private investigators to get dirt on their opponents.
    Charles Colson was (rightly) send to prison for having two unauthorized FBI files on his desk. Over 300 of such files were “found” in the private quarters at the Clinton WH. But the media didn’t whip up hysteria about it, so it was no big deal.


  25. buzzsawmonkey
    26 | October 29, 2009 2:40 pm

    President Nixon was a noble, open, and magnanimous man compared to the Chicago Prickly Pear.


  26. song_and_dance_man
    27 | October 29, 2009 2:40 pm

    re: #24 by Rodan

    Good on you. I had a problem with the comparison but bit my keys.


  27. buzzsawmonkey
    28 | October 29, 2009 2:41 pm

    wolfie–I responded to your post towards the bottom of last thread.


  28. The Osprey
    29 | October 29, 2009 2:41 pm

    Don’t you be dissin’ my man, Dick Nixon.

    It was Nixon Derangement Syndrome that led to Reagan Derangement Syndrome that led to Bush Derangement Syndrome.

    Say what you will about Tricky Dick, he was a staunch anti-communist. Obama on the other hand, IS a communist sympathiser, if not an actual commie, God help us!

    Nixon’s enemies list, by and large, were the same “nattering nabobs of negativism” (in the words of his VEEP, Spiro Agnew) in the press that pulled down Bush and are demonizing Sarah Palin.


  29. Scott Madsen
    30 | October 29, 2009 2:42 pm

    re: #22 by song_and_dance_man

    No there will more than twenty races on the ballot. Of those there will be several that I could care less about the outcome, mostly one shitbird liberal judge to replace another shitbird liberal judge, or spend more money school board memeber to replace same.


  30. wolfie
    31 | October 29, 2009 2:43 pm

    re: #28 by buzzsawmonkey

    Will wander over there!


  31. song_and_dance_man
    32 | October 29, 2009 2:44 pm

    For those who aren’t watching Glenn Beck is slamming B. Hussein with other comparisons. The American Founders/patiriots v. the idols of the New Left, ala Mao and Che.


  32. 33 | October 29, 2009 2:44 pm

    re: #29 by The Osprey

    Check my update, I clarify what I am talking about. I am referring more to their economic policies and personalities, not that they are both the same person.


  33. Nikis Knight
    34 | October 29, 2009 2:45 pm

    re: #22 by song_and_dance_man

    He’s going to give a bad name to all the people who vote illegally for good reasons!
    /


  34. song_and_dance_man
    35 | October 29, 2009 2:48 pm

    re: #30 by Scott Madsen

    I suspected as much, and btw the comment was qualified or rather disqualified with a sarc tag.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    OK everyone be quiet, I think Back is about to send us new marching orders.

    /


  35. Nikis Knight
    36 | October 29, 2009 2:49 pm

    re: #35 by song_and_dance_man

    I’ve got my frog water heating up!
    /yeah, I made the same joke yesterday. It’s so stupid it might work as a running gag, methinks.


  36. buzzsawmonkey
    37 | October 29, 2009 2:50 pm

    re: #36 by Nikis Knight

    “Frog water” is a good band name.


  37. Rancher
    38 | October 29, 2009 2:50 pm

    Now even as we speak, there are those who are preparing to divide us, the spin masters and negative ad peddlers who embrace the politics of anything goes.

    Well, I say to them tonight, there’s not a liberal America and a conservative America; there’s the United States of America.

    And conservative America better shut up.


  38. Iron Fist
    39 | October 29, 2009 2:53 pm

    re: #37 by buzzsawmonkey

    Iron Frog…


  39. spacejesus
    40 | October 29, 2009 2:54 pm

    “Nixon was a man of the left”

    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha, ok

    *puts on beanie with propeller, spins propeller*


  40. snork
    41 | October 29, 2009 2:54 pm

    re: #18 by song_and_dance_man

    I meant Denmark.

    D’oh.


  41. jeppo
    42 | October 29, 2009 2:54 pm

    I don’t think Obama is like Nixon at all. I think it’s a bit of an insult to Nixon to compare him to BHO, Nixon wasn’t too bad of a president, all things considered.

    Nope, the world leader that BHO is modelling his anti-Western, socialist reign of terror on is obviously this guy.


  42. spacejesus
    43 | October 29, 2009 2:56 pm

    “Teddy Roosevelt was a leftist too.

    Set aside all that government controlled land for preservation. Fucking hippy traitor.”

    -Rodan


  43. vagabond trader
    44 | October 29, 2009 2:56 pm

    Sniff sniff I detect troll. Smelly troll fresh from the nether regions of its master selrahC.


  44. snork
    45 | October 29, 2009 2:57 pm

    Where’s that DDT?


  45. wolfie
    46 | October 29, 2009 2:57 pm

    re: #28 by buzzsawmonkey

    I don’t think there is anything the government hs done that has made me more angry than this book-banning. And almost no one knows about it…..or cares much. Sad and chilling.

    The Committe of Public SAFETY.
    Salus populi suprema lex.
    It’s for the children.

    Do you remember the old Landmark books, by any chance?


  46. vagabond trader
    47 | October 29, 2009 2:57 pm

    re: #45 by snork

    Something stronger like napalm.


  47. vagabond trader
    48 | October 29, 2009 2:58 pm

    re: #47 by vagabond trader

    Or perhaps a large dollop of Preperation H.


  48. buzzsawmonkey
    49 | October 29, 2009 2:59 pm

    re: #46 by wolfie

    I don’t remember the Landmark books; I had a whole raft of beautiful books with illos by Wyeth and Szyk which are now contraband. All the magnificent Puffin books which I owned in my youth, too. The utterly gorgeous books by Holling C. Holling. Oh, the list goes on and on.


  49. 50 | October 29, 2009 3:01 pm

    re: #42 by jeppo

    Nixon created teh EPA, Affirmative action and instituted Price Controls. Those are Leftwing policies.

    Yes Nixonw as better than the alternatives and I probably would of voted for him. That said, Obama’s policies are similar to Nixon’s.

    Don’t forget Nixon wanted Healthcare reform also.

    Obama is closer to Nixon than he was to JFK.

    That said Nixon’s and Obama’s foreign policies are totally different.


  50. Iron Fist
    51 | October 29, 2009 3:02 pm

    What is saving us is the utter incompetance of the Left. Even with Obama as President, even with the House and Senate, Obama can’t get anything through Congress. He is flailing and failing. It is delicious…


  51. RIX
    52 | October 29, 2009 3:02 pm

    Nixon actually could have been a great president.
    His opening of China I thought was brilliat & he also took away the sanctuaries in viet Nam , at least for a while.
    Sadly he was too flawed . He was gripped with paranoia & saw enemies everywhere. the Watergare cover up is what technically did him in, but really it was failure to rise above pettiness.


  52. vagabond trader
    53 | October 29, 2009 3:03 pm

    re: #49 by buzzsawmonkey

    What does the law dictate be done with these verboten books? Are we supposed to turn them in to the book czar? Seriously,I have owned and still do many fine old illustrated childrens books.Can I expect a knock on my door to turn over the contraband? Unreal.


  53. buzzsawmonkey
    54 | October 29, 2009 3:03 pm

    re: #51 by Iron Fist

    It’s amazing to watch the Gay Pay Oo as Keystone Kops, is it not?


  54. wolfie
    55 | October 29, 2009 3:03 pm

    I need new stickers for my keyboard.
    I hunt and peck, and I do mean peck. I don’t hold my fingers correctly, so I peck the letters right off the keys. (When I try to touch the keyboard lightly I miss letters.)

    How come I could pound my old hand-me-down portable Smith-Corona with full force for years and the letters never came off? These new keyboards are junk!

    I have to put little stickers on the keys now. Then I can peck them off again!


  55. Rancher
    56 | October 29, 2009 3:04 pm

    Two things I didn’t like about Nixon, EPA and price controls.


  56. buzzsawmonkey
    57 | October 29, 2009 3:04 pm

    re: #53 by vagabond trader

    I have no idea. I intend to grab and salvage any I can find and afford.

    I consider this act of cultural vandalism to be aimed at the heart, mind, and soul of America and its future generations.


  57. song_and_dance_man
    58 | October 29, 2009 3:04 pm

    re: #33 by Rodan

    Is that you final answer? …jk

    When I decided to consider my present job I was asked this. Which is more important, honor or loyalty, and why?

    Of course the right answer is honor.

    Nixon, beyond all his quirks was an honorable man and his resignation demonstrates that his honor outweighed his loyalty to those who served him.

    Compare that virtue to those who succeeded him on the left as your comparison equates. Ford, what the heck, we can leave that one behind. Reagan, Bush (modern glory years fo the US with the exception of George 1 backtracking on taxes) and then we get to Clinton. Now here was one who had no problem with throwing out his honor to maintain power. His loyalty was to himself and Cackle and honor was thrown under the bus along with those who fell on the sword whether they liked it or not.

    B. Hussein is no Nixon. It he was he would admit his commie leanings from honor. But he doesn’t do that. His loyalty to totalitarianism outweighs the honor to admit who he is.


  58. Empire1
    59 | October 29, 2009 3:04 pm

    re: #26 by buzzsawmonkey

    How true. bamm-Bamm is having a real restrative effect on our previous “worst” presidents. :sigh:


  59. 60 | October 29, 2009 3:04 pm

    Shall we keep spacejesus or toss him?


  60. vagabond trader
    61 | October 29, 2009 3:05 pm

    re: #55 by wolfie

    Planned obsolescence,mine do the same.

    :-)


  61. song_and_dance_man
    62 | October 29, 2009 3:06 pm

    re: #41 by snork

    That’s what I thought and threw out the ‘nobel effort’ line anyway.


  62. 63 | October 29, 2009 3:07 pm

    re: #58 by song_and_dance_man

    Their economic policies are similar. Nixon was a Progressive Republican. he declared himself a Keynesian.

    As for honor, I’ll give Nixon that. Only Reagan had honor, The Bushes, Clinton, Carter and Obama had none.

    My point of the thread that Obama is not JFK. He is closer to a Nixon type.


  63. vagabond trader
    64 | October 29, 2009 3:08 pm

    re: #60 by savage

    Actually I’ve had some mild fun tossing him around tho he is rather dull and not up to any world class trolling after being enslaved in the dungeons at Bedlam for so long.Your call boss.

    :D


  64. 65 | October 29, 2009 3:09 pm

    re: #60 by savage

    He’s just a fly.


  65. 66 | October 29, 2009 3:09 pm

    re: #60 by savage

    Is there a “space Jesus” on this thread?

    I’m confused.


  66. song_and_dance_man
    67 | October 29, 2009 3:10 pm

    re: #60 by savage

    Keep him as we ignore the ignorance.


  67. 68 | October 29, 2009 3:10 pm

    re: #60 by savage

    KEEP HIM!

    Being a moron is not a banable office.


  68. wolfie
    69 | October 29, 2009 3:10 pm

    re: #49 by buzzsawmonkey

    I’m lucky that I bought so much from the used-book market for my kids. All of Holling and a couple of Wyeths included.

    The Landmark books were history books, mainly biographies but also stories about battles and important events. They were often written by experts in the field. The illustrations were nothing special, but the texts were wonderful.
    They covered everything from ancient Egypt to the Korean War.


  69. 70 | October 29, 2009 3:11 pm

    re: #66 by WrathofG-d

    40 and 43, scroll up


  70. 71 | October 29, 2009 3:11 pm

    re: #68 by WrathofG-d

    What did I just say? “Banana office”?

    Sheeesh, I need that edit button back as well. I am trying to state that he/she hasn’t seemed to do anything to warrant banning….


  71. RIX
    72 | October 29, 2009 3:12 pm

    Charles had to do the Detroit Mosque shhot out.
    I bet it killed him that they were not a buch of dangerous Tea Party Grannies, but get this from the thread.

    75 kobra_55
    Thu, Oct 29, 2009 9:47:30am replyquote 4downupreport

    Considering that the number of Muslim-Americans who live in Dearborn (and have for many years) is in the hundreds of thousands you have to give the Muslim community there some credit for keeping the formation of these kinds of extremist groups to a minimum.

    Right, if it was a bunch of Lutherans the violence would be much worse.


  72. 73 | October 29, 2009 3:12 pm

    re: #66 by WrathofG-d

    Space Jesus is a coward anyway. Notice he doesn’t mock Allah or Muhammad.

    I say keep him to show Progressive cowardice.


  73. song_and_dance_man
    74 | October 29, 2009 3:13 pm

    re: #63 by Rodan

    I know, but I had to write something that served another purpose.


  74. wolfie
    75 | October 29, 2009 3:13 pm

    re: #53 by vagabond trader

    You may keep them but you may not sell them or give them away.
    Professional booksellers are required to destroy them. It is literally a mandated book-burning.


  75. 76 | October 29, 2009 3:14 pm

    re: #72 by RIX

    Oh fuck, someone drop that ponytailed shit-for-brains in the middle of Dearborn….


  76. jeppo
    77 | October 29, 2009 3:14 pm

    re: #50 by Rodan

    You’re right, Nixon’s domestic policies were a disaster. On foreign policy he was much better.

    But BHO is a frickin nightmare, he’s driving the world’s richest nation towards almost certain bankruptcy.

    That’s why I think he’s more comparable to Robert Mugabe than to any past US president.


  77. buzzsawmonkey
    78 | October 29, 2009 3:14 pm

    Maybe it’s time to re-post this:

    A Modern Liberal Democrat
    -
–with apologies to Gilbert & Sullivan

    I am the very model of a modern liberal Democrat

    I’ve spread out ‘cross the nation from my native campus habitat
    
I know our shabby history of policies discriminate
    
And think we should apologize from now until the infinite

    I look upon myself as a citizen international

    I think restricting entry of illegals is irrational
    
I take care always to show elevated moral attitude
    
And speak with unimpeachable political correctitude

    And speak with unimpeachable political correctitude

    And speak with unimpeachable political correctitude

    And speak with unimpeachable political correcti-rectitude

    Though not myself religious I will talk of spirituality
    
I worship at the shrine of income and gender equality
    
I support racial set-asides, preferences, and bureaucrats
    
I am the very model of a modern liberal Democrat

    He supports racial set-asides, preferences, and bureaucrats

    He is the very model of a modern liberal Democrat

    I reject the notion that Al-Qaeda wants to form a Caliphate
    We’d rapidly end differences if we would just negotiate
    
I think we should do more to prevent other nations’ genocide
    But if we use our military I’ll support the other side

    I second-guess every decision strategic and tactical
    
I support our troops in every way, as long as it’s not practical
    Our army should not engage in perilous foreign adventure
    
So I oppose on principle each new defense expenditure

    So I oppose on principle each new defense expenditure

    So I oppose on principle each new defense expenditure

    So I oppose on principle each new defense expend-expenditure

    I think that women should have choices when they’re faced with pregnancy

    But there is one choice over others I view preferentially

    In short, supporting set-asides, preferences, and bureaucrats
    I am the very model of a modern liberal Democrat

    In short, supporting set-asides, preferences, and bureaucrats

    I am the very model of a modern liberal Democrat

    In fact, when I have shed my nostalgic dreams of revolution
    When I know government’s the problem more than the solution

    When I realize there’s no way that we can fund Social Security
    With so much of our population having reached maturity

    When I have learnt taxation doesn’t create private sector jobs
    When I stop using tax grants as a way to buy votes from the mob
    
In short, when I have shorn some of my more blatant hypocrisies

    You might actually see me begin to support democracy

    You might actually see me begin to support democracy
    You might actually see me begin to support democracy
    
You might actually see me begin to support democra-mocracy

    For the economic knowledge which I’ve clung to from my early teens

    Says, “To each who wants it must come from each person who has got the means”
    
And so, supporting set-asides, preferences, and bureaucrats
    
I am the very model of a modern liberal Democrat

    And so, supporting set-asides, preferences, and bureaucrats
    
I am the very model of a modern liberal Democrat


  78. song_and_dance_man
    79 | October 29, 2009 3:14 pm

    I bet he dreams of a space manger.


  79. jeppo
    80 | October 29, 2009 3:15 pm

    re: #60 by savage

    Keep


  80. 81 | October 29, 2009 3:15 pm

    re: #80 by jeppo

    ok


  81. RIX
    82 | October 29, 2009 3:15 pm

    76. savage on 29 October, 2009 at 3:14 pm reply re: #72 by RIX

    Oh fuck, someone drop that ponytailed shit-for-brains in the middle of Dearborn

    It would get ugly, “Leave me alone, I’m a musician.”


  82. 83 | October 29, 2009 3:16 pm

    re: #45 by snork

    Meh, you can eat ddt without any ill effects. A troll would probably love the stuff.

    Thing is, teddy roosevelt was a leftist, and a progressive as Rodan likes to call them. He was all for increasing government interference in personal lives, regulation of the economy by the sstate and increasing teh size of the federal government. The fact that he was, in the modern parlance, a warhawk simply means that he had a brain about him when it came to foreign policy. And, to be fair, back then you still had to be fairly conservative eevn fyou were trying to push leftist policies in the US. You couldn’t call for the total control of every aspect of live by the state, for instance. You’d start a revolution if you did, and not the one you were after. But, on the other hand, his policies were distinctly “progressive” in a number of areas inasmuch as he favoured stronger government regulation of business and personal life, increased taxes and liked to limit the uses of land by government diktat. Now one coud argue that the national parks are a prime example of good intentions. The problem is that, once they became federally administered, they were also mismanaged. The wildfires in California happen with annoying regularity because of federal mandates that prevent people living with areas designated as protected – using the same laws that Roosevelt first put in place for this purpose – from clearing brushy and undergrowth with a view to prevent fires. This is both federal and state intervention to prevent people from doing what is in their own best interests, and it stems from FDR’s implementation of a law that was designed to progressively increase the role of government in everyday life.

    And that’s why they’re called progressives, and why FDR could be rightly called a leftist by today’s standards.

    Of course the fact that he was a member of the “progressive party” might also have something to do with it. A party that promoted “rational” planning and “scientific” management for every phase of society, called for the substitution of laissez-faire capitalism with state interventionism and the implementation of, in essence, absolute control over every aspect of daily life in order to increase “efficiency”.

    The new deal, price controls, a ban on the ownership of gold, restrictions on hiring practices…

    Yeah I’d say he was a bit of a hippie, actually. He was just early.


  83. song_and_dance_man
    84 | October 29, 2009 3:16 pm

    re: #72 by RIX

    Cj is expanding his tank and bringing in more sharks to jump over.


  84. 85 | October 29, 2009 3:17 pm

    re: #74 by song_and_dance_man

    Sure No problem and look at my updates. I clarify it and give Nixon credit for his Foreign Policy.


  85. RIX
    86 | October 29, 2009 3:17 pm

    73. Rodan on 29 October, 2009 at 3:12 pm reply re: #66 by WrathofG-d

    Space Jesus is a coward anyway. Notice he doesn’t mock Allah or Muhammad.

    I say keep him to show Progressive cowardice.

    Hey, he’s probably under a lot of stress carrying six hours at the local Junior College.


  86. song_and_dance_man
    87 | October 29, 2009 3:17 pm

    re: #82 by RIX

    More like, “I’m a victim and everyone hates me!”


  87. Empire1
    88 | October 29, 2009 3:18 pm

    re: #60 by savage

    Ah, hang onto him. he’s rather amusing, and I haven’t seen him do anything bannable.


  88. spacejesus
    89 | October 29, 2009 3:18 pm

    re: #73 by Rodan

    when have i ever mocked any religion?

    oh, that’s right. never.


  89. 90 | October 29, 2009 3:18 pm

    re: #86 by RIX

    lol


  90. vagabond trader
    91 | October 29, 2009 3:19 pm

    re: #75 by wolfie

    The booksellers I know have not gotten the message.I buy at auctions flea markets antique shows,etc.Ebay too.

    Yup,just did a quick check, 2 Hollings books are on,Cowboys and Indians.


  91. BBEV
    92 | October 29, 2009 3:19 pm

    re: #60 by savage

    He may be an ass. I say keep him as long as he does not go to far


  92. Empire1
    93 | October 29, 2009 3:20 pm

    re: #69 by wolfie

    I used to have quite a collection of those. Great books for a young reader.


  93. 94 | October 29, 2009 3:20 pm

    re: #89 by spacejesus

    I could point out that your name mocks my faith…


  94. song_and_dance_man
    95 | October 29, 2009 3:22 pm

    DON’T FEED THE TROLLS.

    It only encourages them.


  95. wolfie
    96 | October 29, 2009 3:22 pm

    re: #78 by buzzsawmonkey

    We need to get a band and some singers. We need videos! We needs teh You-Tubes!


  96. 97 | October 29, 2009 3:24 pm

    330 Honorary Yooper Thu, Oct 29, 2009 3:07:01pm replyquote

    * 2
    * down
    * up
    * report

    re: #321 spacejesus

    Probably more so because Rodan has a brain disease

    Yeah, Rodan suffers from a lot of ailments. He suffers from foot-in-mouth disease, anti-intelligence dumbness & stupidity, doltheria, mad coward disease, and the common stupids.

    Hey Yopper the only coward is you who claimed to be A Conservative and now has shifted To Progressives to lick your masters boot. I don’t suffer from delusions that I can build highways either.

    Go lose some weight fat boy!


  97. spacejesus
    98 | October 29, 2009 3:24 pm

    re: #94 by archonix

    actually my name is a celebration of jesus


  98. vagabond trader
    99 | October 29, 2009 3:24 pm

    re: #95 by song_and_dance_man

    This ones fu is weakened by confinement and he usually goes puff after a short while.


  99. GrandJunctionite
    100 | October 29, 2009 3:24 pm

    317 spacejesus
    Thu, Oct 29, 2009 3:00:06pm replyquote 4downupreport

    they’re calling richard nixon a leftist over at stalkerblog.com right now

    Isn’t posting or even being registered here grounds for getting whacked from 1.0?


  100. RIX
    101 | October 29, 2009 3:25 pm

    Heres another gem on the LGF Mosque thread by
    Six degrees

    You’d be hard pressed to find a more emphatically pro-American group of immigrants anywhere, and snarking them off as a bunch of car-burning zealots is completely uncalled for.


  101. buzzsawmonkey
    102 | October 29, 2009 3:25 pm

    re: #96 by wolfie

    Formercorpsman did a vid of that one using music and titles, back when I first did it.

    Nice.


  102. vagabond trader
    103 | October 29, 2009 3:25 pm

    re: #100 by GrandJunctionite

    He has a special dispensation from the anti pope.


  103. song_and_dance_man
    104 | October 29, 2009 3:28 pm

    re: #97 by Rodan

    I see our newest token troll is disseminating his progressive stalker abilities and nuisance.


  104. 105 | October 29, 2009 3:28 pm

    re: #89 by spacejesus

    Your name is a mockery of the Christian Messiah. Why don’t you mock Islam?

    I know why, your a Progressive Coward.


  105. RIX
    106 | October 29, 2009 3:29 pm

    98. spacejesus on 29 October, 2009 at 3:24 pm reply re: #94 by archonix

    actually my name is a celebration of jesu

    Ya know dude, guys that take on a God name usually have a bad outcome. Just sayin.


  106. wolfie
    107 | October 29, 2009 3:29 pm

    re: #93 by Empire1

    They are wonderful books. Great for teaching history!


  107. song_and_dance_man
    108 | October 29, 2009 3:29 pm

    re: #100 by GrandJunctionite

    That’s right. He is probably a sock of the New Left Elite over there.


  108. 109 | October 29, 2009 3:31 pm

    re: #106 by RIX

    Notice he doesn’t mock Muhammad or Allah?

    Progressives only respect Islam. All other Religions they insult.


  109. GrandJunctionite
    110 | October 29, 2009 3:31 pm

    re: #103 by vagabond trader

    One would think he has his masters permission.


  110. 111 | October 29, 2009 3:31 pm

    re: #106 by RIX

    What are you trying to say?

    ;)


  111. spacejesus
    112 | October 29, 2009 3:31 pm

    re: #105 by Rodan

    my name is a celebration of a man I admire very much, Jesus Christ


  112. wolfie
    113 | October 29, 2009 3:32 pm

    re: #91 by vagabond trader

    Get them while you can!


  113. buzzsawmonkey
    114 | October 29, 2009 3:33 pm

    re: #109 by Rodan

    There is also the lip service to the “spirituality” of Buddhism, Wicca, and, of course, Gaia-worship.


  114. song_and_dance_man
    115 | October 29, 2009 3:33 pm

    Since 1.0 is a cult spacejesus is welcome over there.


  115. song_and_dance_man
    116 | October 29, 2009 3:34 pm

    re: #114 by buzzsawmonkey

    And let’s not forget Jimmahs prayer to Satan.


  116. wolfie
    117 | October 29, 2009 3:34 pm

    #112—-”my name is a celebration of a man I admire very much…”

    Kevin Spacey?
    Odd.


  117. 118 | October 29, 2009 3:35 pm

    re: #112 by spacejesus

    You are mocking him and and everyone knows. Progressives are not that slick.

    I read Alinsky, so I know your tactics. That is why you are here, because we are exposing the Evil nature of Progressives.


  118. typicalwhitey
    119 | October 29, 2009 3:35 pm

    I would say that unless space has something to add here, he should just be ignored.


  119. 120 | October 29, 2009 3:35 pm

    A man of extreme power due to his degree in history and German. Some call him a god because no mortal human could possibly contain so much information.


  120. song_and_dance_man
    121 | October 29, 2009 3:35 pm

    And of course the Johnson worship.

    /Oh the phallicies


  121. 122 | October 29, 2009 3:35 pm

    re: #114 by buzzsawmonkey

    Oh yeah but it seems Islam is all the rage now with Progressives.


  122. RIX
    123 | October 29, 2009 3:36 pm

    re: #109 by Rodan

    Proressives always exempt Islam from their. religion mocking.IMO there are two reasons,first they see Isalm as anti-Western, it is.
    Second they are scared that a peaceful adherent to Islam would hunt them down.


  123. song_and_dance_man
    124 | October 29, 2009 3:37 pm

    There you go buzz. Something new to work on.

    The Phallicies of Johnson worship.


  124. IslandLibertarian
    125 | October 29, 2009 3:38 pm

    re: #112 by spacejesus

    “”my name is a celebration of a man I admire very much, Jesus Christ”"

    Let’s see you use that as an introduction on your next job interview, or introduction to a prospective love interest, or a judge….”Hello, I’m “spacejesus” on the cult blog LGF .”

    /sooooooo kewl an’ edgey…….twit


  125. buzzsawmonkey
    126 | October 29, 2009 3:38 pm

    re: #116 by song_and_dance_man

    Actually, I enjoyed Jimmah’s prayer to Satan, on the grounds that if he did a “prayer to Satan” he must, therefore, have a vestigial belief in the Almighty—his sour and vehement denials notwithstanding—on the grounds that you don’t do a Black Mass unless you still believe, however unwillingly, in that which you mock.

    Jimmah, however, is too stupid to realize that. I would say that he is as dumb as a box of rocks, but that would insult the box of rocks (some with fossils) that I have in my apartment.


  126. snork
    127 | October 29, 2009 3:38 pm

    re: #100 by GrandJunctionite

    Not if you’re sent on a mission by the Kilgore Green Buttholes (KGB)


  127. 128 | October 29, 2009 3:38 pm

    re: #123 by RIX

    Also both have some things in common. Islam and Progressivism is Transnationalist. They both believe in a One world System. They both believe in Elites controlling the masses and the destruction of Individuality


  128. song_and_dance_man
    129 | October 29, 2009 3:38 pm

    re: #122 by Rodan

    The progs swarm around that new rage.


  129. spacejesus
    130 | October 29, 2009 3:38 pm

    re: #118 by Rodan

    you don’t know it. you don’t know me. you don’t know how devoutly spiritual i am.


  130. 131 | October 29, 2009 3:38 pm

    re: #122 by Rodan

    I will admit that I know nothing about this “spacejesus” but from only what I have seen here today, I think you are being a bit harsh. I presume this is because of some previous behavior from “SJ”.

    If that is the case, then we should stick to the actual statement of “SJ”, and allow him/her to dig its own grave.

    As of now this seems like nothing more than a pissing match. One “SJ” probably started on this thread, but in that case we should just ignore it.

    ~Wrath’s 2c


  131. RIX
    132 | October 29, 2009 3:39 pm

    re: #111 by WrathofG-d

    That they usually wind up drinking a bad batch of Kool Aid oor in a shhot out with the cops.


  132. spacejesus
    133 | October 29, 2009 3:40 pm

    re: #125 by IslandLibertarian

    actually, i look forward to affixing esquire to my name when i start practicing.


  133. 134 | October 29, 2009 3:41 pm

    re: #124 by song_and_dance_man

    I aways thought he was a bit of a cock. The way he keeps erecting his arguments and the general thrust of his attempts to piss on the right lack any sort of real penetration.


  134. Gypsy
    135 | October 29, 2009 3:42 pm

    re: #112 by spacejesus

    Glory hallelujah


  135. spacejesus
    136 | October 29, 2009 3:42 pm

    posting rational, logical statements here is like waving a banana at at tree full of gibbons while making funny faces and noises at them.


  136. 137 | October 29, 2009 3:43 pm

    re: #131 by WrathofG-d

    He’s from LGF, he’s a troll sent over from there. He’s part of the Killgore trout crew.


  137. RIX
    138 | October 29, 2009 3:43 pm

    re: #128 by Rodan

    re: #123 by RIX

    Also both have some things in common. Islam and Progressivism is Transnationalist. They both believe in a One world System. They both believe in Elites controlling the masses and the destruction of Individuality

    Great observation. What Progressives fail to grasp is that their ambitions are not compatable with Islam. They can’t both dominate & pogressives would not be able to shield themselves with the Constitution , that they don’t actually like.
    I think that the RoP would dispatch Progressives ral quick.


  138. buzzsawmonkey
    139 | October 29, 2009 3:43 pm

    re: #121 by song_and_dance_man

    And of course the Johnson worship.

    /Oh the phallicies

    Actually, phallus-worship was endemic in the ancient world. Actual phalluses, obelisks, pylons, etc., etc. were all erected to pay homage to the Mighty Organ.

    That is one of the reasons that sacred prostitution—male as well as female—flourished in idolatrous cults. The Torah, of course, specifically forbids sacred prostitution in Deuteronomy, and it is likely, based on the context, that the Levitical prohibitions against same-sex couplings which get so many people bent out of shape were actually aimed, not at homosexual acts per se, but at participation in the homosexual orgies which were part of the festival celebrations of certain of these cults.


  139. song_and_dance_man
    140 | October 29, 2009 3:44 pm

    re: #126 by buzzsawmonkey

    His faith went only as far in belief that he could mock. It was not from the heart, but was keyed off another post. If he really believed in what he wrote it would have been more sincere and vicious.


  140. Nikis Knight
    141 | October 29, 2009 3:44 pm

    re: #133 by spacejesus

    practicing, huh? So a lawyer? Wow, trying for stature even lower than illiterate internet troll.


  141. typicalwhitey
    142 | October 29, 2009 3:44 pm

    re: #130 by spacejesus

    Space,
    Are you spiritual or religious?
    I myself find that I have a more personal spiritual relationship with Jesus.
    I find religion to be basically man made rules for spirituality.
    Not that I mind that. I am Catholic and find the rituals to be comforting.

    I am interested in your thoughts on this.
    BTW if you capitalized the J in Jesus it would be more respectful…just a thought.


  142. 143 | October 29, 2009 3:44 pm

    re: #136 by spacejesus

    Not like you’d actually know about posting logical statements…

    If you’re so devout, how do you rationalise your name with “thou shalt not take the name of the lord they god in vain”? It doesn’t just refer to profanity, you know.


  143. fultonchain
    144 | October 29, 2009 3:45 pm

    Nixon, or Kissinger by proxy, may have been a supporter of Israel but the man himself was an anti-Semitic asshole.

    The tapes are pretty revealing.


  144. 145 | October 29, 2009 3:45 pm

    *thy

    stupid mental spellchecker on the fritz again…


  145. GrandJunctionite
    146 | October 29, 2009 3:46 pm

    re: #136 by spacejesus

    You’ve had practice?

    http://comedians.comedycentral.com/greg-giraldo/videos/greg-giraldo—suicide-cults


  146. 147 | October 29, 2009 3:46 pm

    re: #136 by spacejesus

    Hey you notice something, people are allowed to disagree with Admisn here. There were some people who disagreed with my comparison of Nixon and Obama. I updated my post to reflect that I am discussing personalities and Economic Policies.

    Can you picture that at LGF? It’s a choir over there and so called Conservatives like Dark Falcon and Honorary Yooper who lick the boots of Progressives.

    You are welcome to comment here and explain why Progressivism is a good ideology.

    If you want to participate and hang out, welcome aboard!


  147. snork
    148 | October 29, 2009 3:46 pm

    re: #137 by Rodan

    Actually SJ does serve a useful purpose. I was advising typicalwhitey on what to avoid in a lawyer. SJ is exhibit “A”. If you find one like that, keep looking. The good ones are good (yeah, I’m going to take some flak for saying that), and the bad one’s aren’t. And when you have as much on the line as TW does, you can’t afford one of the ungood ones.


  148. 149 | October 29, 2009 3:47 pm

    re: #144 by fultonchain

    Yup, you are 100% correct.

    Hey how you been?


  149. RIX
    150 | October 29, 2009 3:47 pm

    141. Nikis Knight on 29 October, 2009 at 3:44 pm reply re: #133 by spacejesus

    practicing, huh? So a lawyer? Wow, trying for stature even lower than illiterate internet

    First he has to get his G.E.D


  150. Truck Monkey
    151 | October 29, 2009 3:47 pm

    re: #134 by archonix

    I aways thought he was a bit of a cock. The way he keeps erecting his arguments and the general thrust of his attempts to piss on the right lack any sort of real penetration.

    A cock that is not used to penetrate is only good for pissing.


  151. 152 | October 29, 2009 3:48 pm

    re: #148 by snork

    He can stay here, I’m cool with that. He can explain to use how great Progressivism is.


  152. buzzsawmonkey
    153 | October 29, 2009 3:48 pm

    re: #144 by fultonchain

    Truman is on record as saying a number of antisemitic things, but he still was the first to recognize the newly-created state of Israel, over the objections of George Marshall and the State Department.


  153. Gypsy
    154 | October 29, 2009 3:49 pm

    re: #133 by spacejesus

    Um, Spacey, why don’t you affix “Kt” (Knight) to your name? Why settle for a mere “esquire?”


  154. fultonchain
    155 | October 29, 2009 3:50 pm

    Re 149,

    Not bad. I pop in from to time but mostly lurk these days.

    Your popularity has it’s downside and I find the long threads unmanageable.


  155. song_and_dance_man
    156 | October 29, 2009 3:50 pm

    re: #139 by buzzsawmonkey

    With no intention whatsoever to wave your writing off with one small return-I knew that. But for the benefit of those who didn’t, thanks for expanding on my brief pun.

    One of the most controversial lines of scripture that addresses the phallus worship can be found in Ezekiel.


  156. spacejesus
    157 | October 29, 2009 3:51 pm

    re: #142 by typicalwhitey

    i dont really use the shift key all that often.

    i feel people have assigned jesus to an ancient, far away time. they forget that jesus exists in the modern, which is why i assign a term with a modern conotation like ’space’ to it. reminds me that jesus exists everywhere, even in this hightech, modern age.


  157. 158 | October 29, 2009 3:51 pm

    re: #137 by Rodan

    That’s fine. That sort of thing doesn’t bother me.

    We are an open society.

    Any stupid or moronic comments she/she makes (or any of us make) represent us alone etc…


  158. buzzsawmonkey
    159 | October 29, 2009 3:52 pm

    re: #156 by song_and_dance_man

    In Ezekiel? Really? Where? I’m not familiar with that one.


  159. Nikis Knight
    160 | October 29, 2009 3:52 pm

    re: #148 by snork

    The good ones are good (yeah, I’m going to take some flak for saying that), and the bad one’s aren’t. And when you have as much on the line as TW does, you can’t afford one of the ungood ones.

    Nah, I don’t think anyone, joking aside, would say that there aren’t good/moral lawyers or that you don’t want a good/competent one on your side when you need one.

    But the immoral lawyers sure do screw up society worse than other professions. An immoral plumber will overcharge you a few hundred bucks, or not finish his job, and eventually end up with no buisiness. An immoral lawyer can get a rapist free or ruin someone financially while setting up a terrible new preccident.


  160. spacejesus
    161 | October 29, 2009 3:53 pm

    re: #148 by snork

    objection, counsel seeks to make an exhibit out of something not properly admitted.


  161. 162 | October 29, 2009 3:53 pm

    re: #155 by fultonchain

    Even though your opinions are different, You are always welcomed here!

    You have been with us before we became big and I appreciate your support!

    If we ever cross paths, beers on me!


  162. RIX
    163 | October 29, 2009 3:54 pm

    re: #157 by spacejesus

    You do understand , that if the tables were turned & this was Johnsonss blog there would be a banning?


  163. 164 | October 29, 2009 3:54 pm

    re: #161 by spacejesus

    That isnt a proper objection.


  164. spacejesus
    165 | October 29, 2009 3:54 pm

    re: #157 by spacejesus

    in this way, rodan’s statement that i am mocking the lord jesus is just another baseless accusation. one of many he makes all the time.


  165. typicalwhitey
    166 | October 29, 2009 3:54 pm

    re: #157 by spacejesus

    Any thoughts on the rest of my post?


  166. vagabond trader
    167 | October 29, 2009 3:54 pm

    re: #144 by fultonchain

    Words fulton words. He may have expressed the typical anti semitic pejoratives of the time but his actions during the Yom Kippur War saved Israel from annihilation and that is beyond lending lip service.I seriously doubt the present occupant of 1600 would do the same.


  167. jeppo
    168 | October 29, 2009 3:54 pm

    re: #136 by spacejesus

    I see that your LGF karma is -937. Congratulations! Anyone that can aggravate the Johnson Cultists to that extent is alright by me.

    In comparison, my karma was only a paltry -708. But if you really want to make your mark over there, then you should should aim to top (bottom?) the former LGFer Cbinflux, statistically speaking the most hated lizard in LGF history, with a karma of -1489. And of course you’ll eventually have to get yourself banned (that won’t be hard at all).


  168. Gypsy
    169 | October 29, 2009 3:55 pm

    re: #161 by spacejesus

    Huh? You’re making an exhibit of yourself and you’ve properly admitted it. So? What’s the problem?


  169. fultonchain
    170 | October 29, 2009 3:55 pm

    re: #153 by buzzsawmonkey

    That’s why I was careful to make the distinction between Nixon’s policies and Nixon’s character.

    I expect that anti-Semitic comments in the Oval Office are not limited to Nixon and Truman.Then again, pragmatists (Nixon and Truman were nothing if not pragmatic) often act in ways that belie their true convictions.


  170. song_and_dance_man
    171 | October 29, 2009 3:56 pm

    re: #159 by buzzsawmonkey

    Then the Babylonians came to her, to the bed of love, and in their lust they defiled her. After she had been defiled by them, she turned away from them in disgust. When she carried on her prostitution openly and exposed her nakedness, I turned away from her in disgust, just as I had turned away from her sister. Yet she became more and more promiscuous as she recalled the days of her youth, when she was a prostitute in Egypt. There she lusted after her lovers, whose genitals were like those of donkeys and whose emission was like that of horses. So you longed for the lewdness of your youth, when in Egypt your bosom was caressed and your young breasts fondled.


  171. spacejesus
    172 | October 29, 2009 3:56 pm

    re: #164 by WrathofG-d

    yes it is, it’s an evidence objection.


  172. 173 | October 29, 2009 3:56 pm

    Ok, we’ve been JACKED!

    So who is a fan of Iggy & the Stooges?


  173. BBEV
    174 | October 29, 2009 3:56 pm

    re: #137 by Rodan

    “”"He’s from LGF, he’s a troll sent over from there. He’s part of the Killgore trout crew”"”

    Ya he is and we all know it but can’t we play whit it for a while.


  174. 175 | October 29, 2009 3:57 pm

    Off Topic:

    It seems that the Governments grip on the NEA is having baring fruit.

    http://www.littlegreenfootballs2.com/2009/09/09/obama-administration-enlisting-arts-community-to-produce-propaganda/

    Obama ‘Most Powerful Writer Since Julius Caesar,’ Says NEA Chief

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/28/obama-powerful-writer-julius-caesar-says-nea-chief/


  175. spacejesus
    176 | October 29, 2009 3:57 pm

    re: #168 by jeppo

    i had almost -2000 at one point. i owe most of that to people who have since been banned and are now here.


  176. buzzsawmonkey
    177 | October 29, 2009 3:58 pm

    re: #171 by song_and_dance_man

    I’m going to have to look that up. You don’t have a chapter/verse reference handy, do you?


  177. typicalwhitey
    178 | October 29, 2009 3:58 pm

    re: #165 by spacejesus

    Rather than a baseless accusation, I think that is was an assumption based on the fact that lgf is an anti-creationist blog and so it would be normal to assume that it was being used as mocking.

    What made you decide to become a lawyer?
    Interested because that was a proffesion that I seriously considered when I was in my 20’s.


  178. spacejesus
    179 | October 29, 2009 3:59 pm

    re: #169 by Gypsy

    impossible. federal rules of evidence procedure was not followed to admit me into evidence.

    objection sustained.


  179. 180 | October 29, 2009 3:59 pm

    *sigh*

    stranded in the parking lot at work.

    came out, tire was flat.

    the bolt holding the soare in place is rusted shut, but that’s ok, it is flat too.

    so I sit, waiting for my car to be towed to firestone.

    Bike still is in the shop too.


  180. buzzsawmonkey
    181 | October 29, 2009 3:59 pm

    re: #170 by fultonchain

    The distinction between personal belief and public action—something which the rudderless do not understand—is one of the reasons that a certain person’s jihad against “creationism” started to pall very rapidly.


  181. Gypsy
    182 | October 29, 2009 3:59 pm

    Another difference between Nixon and Obama is there intelligence levels. Nixon was intellectually brilliant, Obama seems at best to be mediocre in the brains department. Which may eventually be our salvation.

    (Taking a break from troll-whapping)


  182. Nikis Knight
    183 | October 29, 2009 4:00 pm

    re: #165 by spacejesus

    It’s not baseless, really. You can make up a counter-intuitive reason why it isn’t, but to anyone seeing that your name is “spacejesus” without the somewhat silly explanation it comes across as mockery. As you claiming to speak for the Christian God and at the same time equating him with martians or something.

    Maybe that’s okay with you, that what to you supposedly is reverential appears profane to most. If you wanted to not be misinterpreted, you’d change it.

    (and stop being an adolescent idiot, but that’s besides the point)


  183. spacejesus
    184 | October 29, 2009 4:00 pm

    re: #178 by typicalwhitey

    because international law sounded interesting. i am still toying around with the idea of JAG or foreign service with that, but I might go work for the ACLU now.


  184. buzzsawmonkey
    185 | October 29, 2009 4:00 pm

    re: #179 by spacejesus

    Why are you bragging about being an objectionable sh*tstain?


  185. Beltfed
    186 | October 29, 2009 4:01 pm

    And all this time I thought spacejesus was a Mexican astronaut.


  186. GrandJunctionite
    188 | October 29, 2009 4:01 pm

    re: #180 by LanceKates

    wow that sucks. I’d never have mine towed. No friends around you can call to bail you out?


  187. 189 | October 29, 2009 4:01 pm

    re: #179 by spacejesus

    federal rules of evidence procedure

    Um…WHAT?

    Don’t you mean the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure Regarding the Admission of Evidence?

    If you do, then as I stated earlier; your objection is not proper.

    Maybe “lack of foundation” is what you are looking for?


  188. BBEV
    190 | October 29, 2009 4:02 pm

    re: #180 by LanceKates

    Thats why I have an air pump in my truck. I work on construction site so I get flats all the time but with a pump I can inflate and fix it in minutes.


  189. GrandJunctionite
    191 | October 29, 2009 4:02 pm

    re: #186 by Beltfed

    My name Jose Jimenez


  190. fultonchain
    192 | October 29, 2009 4:02 pm

    re: #162 by Rodan

    After single-handedly fighting off the vast right conspiracy on numerous threads — if your buying, I’ll be going straight to the single malts.


  191. Gypsy
    193 | October 29, 2009 4:03 pm

    re: #182 by Gypsy

    Judas Priest! PIMP! (Proofreading is my Pal) – substitute “their” for “there”. (And here I am giggling secretly at people who mix up there, their and they’re. Goes to show).


  192. GrandJunctionite
    194 | October 29, 2009 4:03 pm

    Yabbba Dabba Doooo!

    Out


  193. vagabond trader
    195 | October 29, 2009 4:04 pm

    re: #180 by LanceKates

    Lance!

    :sad:


  194. spacejesus
    196 | October 29, 2009 4:05 pm

    re: #189 by WrathofG-d

    uh no. i was talking about the procedures outlined in the federal rules of evidence for admitting evidence.


  195. Spacesharmuta
    197 | October 29, 2009 4:05 pm

    .


  196. Gypsy
    198 | October 29, 2009 4:05 pm

    re: #179 by spacejesus

    Objectionable is sustained, that’s for sure.


  197. lobo91
    199 | October 29, 2009 4:05 pm

    re: #180 by LanceKates

    That sucks.

    On the bright side, at least you’re not in Colorado today. You could add “froze my ass off” to the list if you were.


  198. Spacesharmuta
    200 | October 29, 2009 4:05 pm

    re: #196 by spacejesus

    Get back in your back yard!


  199. jeppo
    201 | October 29, 2009 4:05 pm

    re: #176 by spacejesus

    You should have quit while you were ahead (behind?).


  200. Gypsy
    202 | October 29, 2009 4:06 pm

    re: #197 by Spacesharmuta

    WTH?


  201. vagabond trader
    203 | October 29, 2009 4:06 pm

    re: #197 by Spacesharmuta

    You ROCK!!!!!


  202. IslandLibertarian
    204 | October 29, 2009 4:06 pm

    re: #136 by spacejesus

    My response to this last insult will be……..


  203. 205 | October 29, 2009 4:06 pm

    re: #188 by GrandJunctionite

    pathetic nature time:

    I’m a bit of a hermit. I don’t really do much outside of work that involves others….. so, no.

    I’m not that good in the ‘making friends’ department.


  204. song_and_dance_man
    206 | October 29, 2009 4:07 pm

    re: #177 by buzzsawmonkey

    Chapter 23:17-21


  205. buzzsawmonkey
    207 | October 29, 2009 4:07 pm

    Speaking of “lack of foundation,” whatever happened to the panty girdle?


  206. buzzsawmonkey
    208 | October 29, 2009 4:08 pm

    re: #206 by song_and_dance_man

    Thank you!


  207. 209 | October 29, 2009 4:08 pm

    re: #190 by BBEV

    I noticed it was low at lunch, so I filled it then.

    must have sprung a worse leak then.


  208. jeppo
    210 | October 29, 2009 4:09 pm

    re: #203 by vagabond trader

    LOL!


  209. Speranza
    211 | October 29, 2009 4:10 pm

    You are right – Nixon was no conservative and did nothing to advance Republicanism.


  210. vagabond trader
    212 | October 29, 2009 4:10 pm

    re: #207 by buzzsawmonkey

    Don’t know about a panty griddle but we still have the trusty brazzier!


  211. Speranza
    213 | October 29, 2009 4:11 pm

    re: #207 by buzzsawmonkey

    “Speaking of “lack of foundation,” whatever happened to the panty girdle?”

    Alas it has gone the way of the corset.


  212. Spacesharmuta
    214 | October 29, 2009 4:11 pm

    re: #203 by vagabond trader

    Quite concur. Isn’t Charles just a hunk?


  213. westlafadeaway
    215 | October 29, 2009 4:11 pm

    re: #197 by Spacesharmuta

    Quite concur.


  214. SpaceCharles
    216 | October 29, 2009 4:11 pm

    Hey Spacejesus and SpaceSharm

    You can come back to my swamp now. You have done my bidding well.

    MHAHHHH HAAAAA HHAAAAA HAAAAAAA


  215. typicalwhitey
    217 | October 29, 2009 4:11 pm

    re: #184 by spacejesus

    International Law? Wow.
    I just wanted to do it because I would be getting paid a lot to argue LOL!


  216. spacejesus
    218 | October 29, 2009 4:12 pm

    re: #216 by SpaceCharles

    jawohl feldmarschal charles, ich stehe zum diensten.


  217. Beltfed
    219 | October 29, 2009 4:12 pm

    re: #191 by GrandJunctionite

    Friend of Speedy Gonzales ?


  218. Spacesharmuta
    220 | October 29, 2009 4:12 pm

    re: #215 by westlafadeaway

    Quite concur.


  219. 221 | October 29, 2009 4:12 pm

    re: #195 by vagabond trader

    yeah, I’m pretty upset.

    par for the course though..

    I’ll be back later, need to conserve battery in my cell


  220. buzzsawmonkey
    222 | October 29, 2009 4:13 pm

    re: #213 by Speranza

    “Speaking of “lack of foundation,” whatever happened to the panty girdle?”

    Alas it has gone the way of the corset.

    We may have jettisoned the corset, but it has not prevented us from becoming more coarse.


  221. vagabond trader
    223 | October 29, 2009 4:13 pm

    re: #214 by Spacesharmuta

    Don’t try to drag me into your sweaty war of ownership with Jimmah-Ice and Irish Rose.


  222. buzzsawmonkey
    224 | October 29, 2009 4:13 pm

    re: #212 by vagabond trader

    Heh and double heh.


  223. Speranza
    225 | October 29, 2009 4:13 pm

    re: #196 by spacejesus

    Don’t you find it strange that Chaz gives you permission to post here (while calling us “the stalker blog”) and yo can do so with the certainty that you will not be banned while we cannot post over on LGF?

    Also whose side are you on in the iceweasel/Irish Rose war?


  224. Spacesharmuta
    226 | October 29, 2009 4:13 pm

    re: #218 by spacejesus

    Quite concur. Now get your scrawny ass back on the plantation, NOW!


  225. 227 | October 29, 2009 4:14 pm

    re: #196 by spacejesus

    Ok. In that case it is still an improper objection.


  226. 228 | October 29, 2009 4:14 pm

    re: #218 by spacejesus

    HOOOOGAAAAAN!!


  227. typicalwhitey
    229 | October 29, 2009 4:15 pm

    re: #218 by spacejesus

    Do you live in Germany?
    This is getting a little weird the things we have in common.
    My Dad used to travel to Germany, his company has a plant there.


  228. snork
    230 | October 29, 2009 4:15 pm

    re: #212 by vagabond trader

    Yeah. And Loppy’s talks. IT doesn’t get much better than that.

    Now somebody needs to develop talking cod pieces.


  229. vagabond trader
    231 | October 29, 2009 4:16 pm

    re: #216 by SpaceCharles

    Don’t take this as anything but mockery, loved you in Race Detective.


  230. typicalwhitey
    232 | October 29, 2009 4:17 pm

    re: #225 by Speranza

    Do tell!
    Last I saw the rose was threatening to forward chats to charles in order to freeze out ice.


  231. buzzsawmonkey
    233 | October 29, 2009 4:17 pm

    I have to pity spacejesus if he dreams of working for the ACLU.

    Not only will he not make a living—the ACLU relies on volunteer labor to a very large extent—but he will soon discover, if he has any brains, that the ACLU is largely involved in works of astonishing stupidity.

    I had the starry-eyed belief in the rightness of the ACLU back when I was in lawschool, and worked with it as part of my school’s “clinical program” (aka “learn as you don’t earn”). I discovered that the office was bending most of its efforts towards the advancement of “prisoner’s rights,” which in practice means ensuring that triple axe murderers are not deprived of their color TV privileges for shanking the guy in the next cell.

    Kinda takes the bloom off of “rights law” in short order.


  232. SpaceCharles
    234 | October 29, 2009 4:18 pm

    re: #218 by spacejesus

    Guter Hund!


  233. vagabond trader
    235 | October 29, 2009 4:18 pm

    re: #230 by snork

    Don’t know any talking codpieces,just a few of what they represent.Walking and talking ones.

    :-)


  234. buzzsawmonkey
    236 | October 29, 2009 4:19 pm

    re: #230 by snork

    Now somebody needs to develop talking cod pieces.

    “So, Phil(let), whaddaya think of those chips over there?”

    “Say, I’d share my malt vinegar with them anytime.”


  235. Speranza
    237 | October 29, 2009 4:19 pm

    “Hey listen buddy boy don’t yo go picking on my man Richard E. Nixon!”

    Archie Bunker


  236. SpaceCharles
    238 | October 29, 2009 4:20 pm

    There is some serious craziness over here.
    Spacesharmuta, what do you think?


  237. Eliana
    239 | October 29, 2009 4:21 pm

    re: #238 by SpaceCharles

    What have you done with SpaceWeasel?!?!?!?!?


  238. snork
    240 | October 29, 2009 4:21 pm

    re: #232 by typicalwhitey

    Last I saw the rose was threatening to forward chats to charles in order to freeze out ice.

    If that isn’t a fool errand.


  239. Speranza
    241 | October 29, 2009 4:21 pm

    re: #232 by typicalwhitey

    I think that Rose would love to grab weasel by the hair and tear a huge lock out while weasel scrarches her face and her lover Jimmah sneaks around from behind and kicks Rose in the head.


  240. vagabond trader
    242 | October 29, 2009 4:22 pm

    re: #237 by Speranza

    Can you imagine a show like that today? No way!


  241. 243 | October 29, 2009 4:22 pm

    re: #184 by spacejesus

    Whatever makes you money!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  242. Eliana
    244 | October 29, 2009 4:22 pm

    SpaceCharles and SpaceSharmuta are somewhere putting SpaceWeasel under an actual bus.


  243. Speranza
    245 | October 29, 2009 4:22 pm

    re: #238 by SpaceCharles

    “There is some serious craziness over here.
    Spacesharmuta, what do you think?”

    Spacesharmuta come quick, I need a Lewinsky in the worst way.


  244. Speranza
    246 | October 29, 2009 4:24 pm

    re: #242 by vagabond trader

    Ultraliberal Norman Lear thought people would laugh at Archie Bunker when in reality they were laughing with Archie Bunker. Archie was not a conservative, he was a liberals idea of what a conwervative should be like.


  245. typicalwhitey
    247 | October 29, 2009 4:24 pm

    re: #241 by Speranza

    I think that Sharm would love to kick ices ass because she loves charles but charles favors ice so bad it must make sharmuta green with envy.


  246. 248 | October 29, 2009 4:24 pm

    yawn

    Bring it to the open thread kids.


  247. vagabond trader
    249 | October 29, 2009 4:24 pm

    re: #238 by SpaceCharles

    Fess up, is it true that Weasel and Jimmah are doing the Three Faces of Eve-transgender version?


  248. Eliana
    250 | October 29, 2009 4:25 pm

    If SpaceWeasel doesn’t show up here pretty quick, I think we should call 911 in Culver City, CA.


  249. SpaceMandyManners
    251 | October 29, 2009 4:26 pm

    Go piss up a rope.


  250. Justa Joe
    252 | October 29, 2009 4:26 pm

    I disagree with the whole premise of this comparison. It presumes that Nixon was the bad guy that Dan Rather and the Lib media says that he was. Anything that Nixon ever did the donks have done in spades.

    A person is a fool if they actuallty believed the Obama as healer schtick. He was a healer allright but for libz only. As he reminded the GOP afterall… he won. Obama’s whole campaign was a non stop attack on Bush (who wasn’t even running) and so-called “tax cuts for the rich.”

    The Kennedys coddled commies like Alger Hiss. JFK has one thing in common with Obammie. They’re both grossly over-rated, and their mythos is created by the lib press.


  251. Gypsy
    253 | October 29, 2009 4:26 pm

    re: #233 by buzzsawmonkey

    ACLU + Spacejesus! – it’s a match made in heaven for all sorts of reasons.


  252. vagabond trader
    254 | October 29, 2009 4:28 pm

    re: #251 by SpaceMandyManners

    In 0 gravity?????


  253. buzzsawmonkey
    255 | October 29, 2009 4:28 pm

    re: #246 by Speranza

    One of the really silly things about “All in the Family” was that it depicted Archie and Edith as being some sort of frozen-in-amber fantasy which was composed partly of what Norman Lear remembered (probably from his parents) from the 1920s/30s, partly from the 1940s, and partly from the 1950s.

    The furniture, the cultural references, and the alleged memories were a mishmash of three decades.


  254. Spacesharmuta
    256 | October 29, 2009 4:30 pm

    re: #244 by Eliana

    We’re having a threesome in the bus.


  255. Spacesharmuta
    257 | October 29, 2009 4:32 pm

    re: #245 by Speranza

    You’re not my SpaceCharles! What do you think I am? Some sort of sharmuta?


  256. Eliana
    258 | October 29, 2009 4:33 pm

    re: #256 by Spacesharmuta

    We’re having a threesome in the bus.

    MY EYES! MY EYES!

    I can’t even see you but my eyes are freaked out anyway!


  257. Overlook
    259 | October 29, 2009 4:34 pm

    re: #157 by spacejesus

    Well I prefer to picture you as an intergalactic gadfly, stinging butts across the universe and artfully dodging the slaps.

    An intergalactic lawyer of faith too lazy to hit the shift key does not appeal so much.


  258. Spacesharmuta
    260 | October 29, 2009 4:34 pm

    Huh? Am I stuck on night shift again?


  259. song_and_dance_man
    261 | October 29, 2009 4:34 pm

    I would change my nic but space_song_and_dance_man screams evolution and star song.


  260. Speranza
    262 | October 29, 2009 4:36 pm

    re: #257 by Spacesharmuta

    “You’re not my SpaceCharles! What do you think I am? Some sort of sharmuta?”

    Hey I know you are in love with me, I’ve seen your emails to Michelle!


  261. Justa Joe
    263 | October 29, 2009 4:37 pm

    I always wondered how Archie was supposed to be some kind of staunch conservative when he was a union guy from some part of NYC.

    At best he would have been a democrat, who voted for Nixon.


  262. Empire1
    264 | October 29, 2009 4:38 pm

    re: #213 by Speranza

    Alas it has gone the way of the corset.

    Or, from a former wearer of it, thank the gods it has gone the way of the corset!


  263. IslandLibertarian
    265 | October 29, 2009 4:45 pm

    …In space, no one can hear you “quite concur”.

    /but you’re still a pretentious twit anyway……..


  264. Speranza
    266 | October 29, 2009 4:47 pm

    re: #264 by Empire1

    I was talking to “m” the other night and you never know if a poster is male or female. I am assuming that you are a female.


  265. buzzsawmonkey
    267 | October 29, 2009 4:49 pm

    re: #263 by Justa Joe

    True. Yet another example of the disconnect.


  266. Empire1
    268 | October 29, 2009 4:50 pm

    re: #266 by Speranza

    Da, I’m female. :) Short, chubby old fem, though, hardly a hottie.


  267. fultonchain
    269 | October 29, 2009 4:53 pm

    re: #263 by Justa Joe

    I always wondered how Archie was supposed to be some kind of staunch conservative when he was a union guy from some part of NYC.

    I grew up in Queens and while my dad was white collar (but living blue, he had, shall we say… cash flow issues) the bulk of my friends fathers were union guys. Socially they were about the most conservative people you can imagine.

    Abortion wasn’t unheard of but it was certainly unheard. Jews? The only Jews these guys saw were behind the counter at the deli or the Hassid they bought a cheap rock from in Manhattan (the city, we called it). Education? Forget it, they did just fine without one and were the first to let you know. Immigration? Fuckers are just trying to steal our jobs (half these guys were second generation).

    Archie was never conservative, he was just a bigot. Just like everyone else in circa 1970 Astoria.


  268. 270 | October 29, 2009 4:55 pm

    re: #136 by spacejesus

    posting rational, logical statements here is like waving a banana at at tree full of gibbons while making funny faces and noises at them.

    While I am relevantly certain that you are conversant in gibbon behavior, I find the lack of veracity in your reference to logic amusing.

    Logic actually has a set of clearly defined rules which preclude the use of fallacies as empirical evidence to support a supposition.

    The prima fascia declaration of an ad hominem logic fallacy immediately followed by multiple other fallacies (Argument from fallacy: Bare assertion fallacy: Petitio principii: ) suggests that rather than the supposition having any basis in fact, the converse is actual true.


  269. snork
    271 | October 29, 2009 4:57 pm

    re: #267 by buzzsawmonkey

    New Yorkers have a hard time conceiving how people outside of New York live. I think that’s why that was sited in Queens. I always thought that itself was kind of strange. If you’re going to stereotype a mindless conservative doofus, that’s not a very credible way to do it.

    I think it would have been very hard for Leer to work outside of that box, though. Just no conception.

    OTOH, movies like Deliverance are also stupid because they let their stereotypical fantasies get away from them.


  270. 272 | October 29, 2009 4:59 pm

    [...] post is from here. Visit the link to read more.Biden is a horse’s ass! 21. Scott Madsen on 29 October, 2009 at [...]


  271. Justa Joe
    273 | October 29, 2009 5:03 pm

    re: #269 by fultonchain

    I agree with you analysis. I too know guys like Archie. He would have been a standard iissue personality type in a place like Brideport in Chicago, bigotted, union, and voting for the Democratic machine except in presidential elections.

    I always thought that ironically the joke was on the donks because Archie would have been a registered democrat.


  272. Speranza
    274 | October 29, 2009 5:05 pm

    re: #271 by snork

    Deliverance was based on a novel written by a Southerner (and a poet) named James Dickey.


  273. Justa Joe
    275 | October 29, 2009 5:06 pm

    That should have been “your” and “Bridgeport.”


  274. Eliana
    276 | October 29, 2009 5:10 pm

    Did we lose the Space Cadets?


  275. 277 | October 29, 2009 5:12 pm

    re: #275 by Eliana

    Charles saw he was having fun and yanked his chain…


  276. Justa Joe
    278 | October 29, 2009 5:14 pm

    I’m a little disappointed in the photo of Nixon shaking hands with Mao in the context of this thread. It reminds me of when the libz show pics of Cheney shaking hands with Saddam as if that is supposed to do something.

    I think Nixon recognizing China was a smart thing. It kept China from aligning with Russia against us. People don’t remember back then the Russian Bear was a worldwide threat.


  277. snork
    279 | October 29, 2009 5:59 pm

    re: #273 by Speranza

    And you don’t think there’s a such thing as a self-hating Southerner?


  278. 280 | October 29, 2009 9:15 pm

    [...] post is from here. Visit the link to read more.Biden is a horse’s ass! 21. Scott Madsen on 29 October, 2009 at [...]


  279. African Moondog
    281 | October 30, 2009 12:37 am

    re: #43 by spacejesus

    Hello Nicholas,

    How are things in New Mexico?


  280. Jim
    282 | October 30, 2009 3:00 am

    re: #40 by spacejesus

    The Environmental Protection Agency was started by Nixon, which has sense morphed into a far left wing agency that has stifled industry, farming, logging and thousands of activities that made America great.


  281. 283 | October 30, 2009 9:38 am

    Obama has all the dictatorial aspirations of Woodrow Wilson, all the political style of Richard Nixon, and all the foreign policy savvy of Jimmy Carter.


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