Let’s Have A Social Con-versation!
Below the surface of practically all of the pressing political and news worthy issues we discuss here is a brewing and exceptionally active “social war”. Most of the issues we discuss here are just symptoms of a larger core social and moral problem in our Country, and throughout the world. To ignore the actual causes, and solely concentrate on the symptoms will be to our detriment.
In this vein, I present the following articles, and issues.
For some Parents, Shouting Is The New Spanking
Spare the Rod or Swing the Paddle: How to Punish Students
Larry David Urinates on Jesus Painting; Catholics Not Enthused
Gray Hair “Cure” Available in 10 Years
So Blogmocracy, join the social Con-versation and get to the root of the problems.
Tags: Larry David, Parenting, Science, Social Conservatism, Social Conversation
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We're not easily offended and don't want people to think they have to walk on eggshells around here (like at another place that shall remain nameless) but of course, there is a limit to everything.
Play nice!
I like the idea of the gray hair cure. Should be available and fully tested by the time I really need it. If I need it.
/might not be worried about gray hair then.
ON FOX TV: Obama opining about his visit to Dover Air Force Base last night. What a fuck.
Is the gray-hair cure radium based? Can we thank Hairy Curie?
I would like tosee Larry David accidentally splash the Koran with urine and see what happens next.
re: #1 by PaladinPhil
What is wrong with gray hair?
Gray hair is better than no hair at all.
And buzz knows!
# 1 PaladinPhil
When it comes to hair, better gray than nay.
Progressivism/Port Modern Nihilism is the cause.
re: #5 by WrathofG-d
Gray is teh new ghey…
re: #5 by WrathofG-d
Nothing if it’s on the other guys head
re: #5 by WrathofG-d
Nothing but vanity.
re: #4 by Speranza
He wouldn’t have the balls to do it!
re: #7 by typicalwhitey
Is that what you call a buzzcut?
Meh, with my expert colorist I already have an excellent cure for grey hair.
re: #4 by Speranza
I’d like to see Larry David, and all other liberals have respect for the difference of opinion called Religion.
Yes, I understand that Larry David makes his money being offensive to “everyone” (there are always those they don’t attack – ie: Muslims) but pissin on Jesus just doesn’t sound funny to me.
I got gray hair…what is left of it…LOL
re: #12 by PaladinPhil
I find it interesting that humans would be bothered with something that happens to everyone. It is odd to me that as a society we have chosen to turn some natural behavior into physical pariahs, or something to be embarrassed about.
It is ironic that this is done at the same time of societal guilt over unnatural things. You have to completely accept nose rings, drug addictions, blah, blah, blah, but gray hair and wrinkles are to be avoided at all cost?
Stupid! I like when humans grow gracefully like humans.
re: #2 by Nevergiveup
What a despicable limp excuse for a potus. Using the blood of our heroes to score points with his phony reverence.Meanwhile in A-stan they have to ask permission to eliminate the enemy.
**spit**
13. Rodan on 29 October, 2009 at 11:21 am reply re: #4 by Speranza
He wouldn’t have the balls to do it
Not only that, if larry David wrote anything including a Koran desecration HBO would never air it.
I do not countenance child abuse, but the notion that spanking is off-limits is child abuse.
I think this thread’s already off the rails if we’re talking about balls and buzzcuts in the same thread. Maybe we should try a “safe” topic, like boobs?
Gray hair isn’t gray at all. It is white. I’ve had it since I was a boy with a dime sized patch on the front top part of my noggin. It began to spread with I was about 15 and never stopped. As a consequence I’ve had premature ‘graying’ since I was about thirty. My son has the same patch but bigger. About the size of a quarter.
I used to say my white hair was a sign of wisdom, but my X maintained it was a sign of dead roots.
re: #18 by WrathofG-d
Yeah I hear you. To be honest even if there is a solution I doubt I would take it. Right now my hairline is losing the battle with my fore head. It can be annoying, especially in the winter, but I have grown used to it.
In my observation, if you are male you can dress fashionably or dye your hair. If you do both, you are identifying yourself as gay.
re: #8 by RickZ
Hair is over rated. Te USMC never let me have any and now my folicle less head is no maintanence.
re: #1 by PaladinPhil
I don’t have to worry about gray hair. I’ll bring mine to my HS reunion in a box.
# 18 WrathofG-d
Thank our fixation with ‘the youth culture’. Without it, most plastic surgeons might have to find real work.
re: #14 by snork
There once was a poster named buzz
Alas on his head was just fuzz
I must hide my bald pate
So I can get a date!
Right now all the girls just LOLZ
# 26 GrandJunctionite
Ah, the follicle-challenged. LOL! Well, I don’t look good in hats, and I sunburn easily, so gray hair is my pate’s sunscreen.
re: #18 by WrathofG-d
Damn straight! That’s why G-d invented beer guts.
re: #16 by WrathofG-d
What would happen if I whizzed on a picture of Obama?
Afetr watching that clip, all I know about Larry David is the jackass pisses all over the place and doesn’t wash his friggin hands.
re: #29 by typicalwhitey
Sorry to disappoint you, but people come from miles around merely to gaze in awe at my luxurious waves.
re: #32 by mfhorn
Or Mohammed?
# 32 mfhorn
A racist hate crime!
/Kangaroo court of public opinion
re: #32 by mfhorn
Some liberals would send the Secret Service out to investigate you for being racist, and making a threat of drowning against the President.
btw: I am all for corperal punishment against children when they deserve it. I find the evolution of “no hitting” to becoming “no raising voice” to be interesting (and frightening as these social demands are now backed up by the force of Law)
re: #34 by buzzsawmonkey
So you have a beach place?
re: #38 by snork
It’s modest, but it surfs me just fine.
re: #34 by buzzsawmonkey
Thats ok, I just love doing limericks LOL
re: #37 by WrathofG-d
Wow. That’s almost as tautological as some of the things selrehC says.
/Not that I disagree with you “larger truth”…
re: #32 by mfhorn
Hate crime.
re: #39 by buzzsawmonkey
Watch out for global warming. On day you’re going to be paddling around in the surf, and the sea level is going to go up 200′. Dr. LVQ even said so.
That’ll be a beach bum trip…
re: #37 by WrathofG-d
Sometimes a swat or two on the backside is the only way to get through. Sure, you have to draw the line at swats that actually cause harm (bruise, broken bone) vs a swat that stings. Discipline is one thing. Abuse, and I know it happens far too often, is another.
re: #42 by vagabond trader
No, THIS is a REAL hate crime…
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2009/10/shooting-at-la-synagogue-investigated-as-hate-crime-man-arrested.html
re: #41 by snork
I don’t think so. I am surrounded by individuals who do not believe in corporal punishment in any circumstances – even when they do deserve it.
Wait…ok…..I think i see you point about a tautological statement….
it depends on what the definition of is is doesn’t it. …or should I say “deserves”
Modern parents, it seems, are so addled
They refuse to let their kids be paddled
But then too late they find
That they are in a bind
And with little monsters they’re saddled.
re: #13 by Rodan
“He wouldn’t have the balls to do it!”
He would have no balls because they would cut them off and shove it in his mouth.
The three times my mother swatted me, twice she was 100% right and I KNEW it. The third, she was wrong and apologized for it. I am grateful to have a mother so strong.
re: #23 by song_and_dance_man
Speaking of which it is time for me to buy some Just For Men hair coloring (sandy blonde).
OT:
Oh how transparent big demturd gov is./
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/29/house-democratic-bill-ceremony-closed-public/
re: #49 by Urban Infidel
A mother apologizing? When I was a kid parents never would apologize or admit that they were wrong.
OT
Sorry for the OT.
Rest in Peace Small Business in America. Ms. Pelosi’s 1900 page monstrosity will be the deathnell for us all.
I’ve only been scanning it and from all I can gleen, We’re doomed.
re: #50 by Speranza
That’s nothing like the ‘hair in a can’ that used to be advertized on TV is it?
re: #44 by mfhorn
I think swatting is more designed to humiliate (which is worse) then to do physical harm.
re: #54 by mfhorn
yeah and when it rains you look rather foolish.
re: #52 by Speranza
She lost her temper and smacked me though it wasn’t my fault, –hard being a single parent–, and she admitted she was wrong. She earned my undying respect for that and for many other reasons.
Well, I just came in and made myself a nice salad.
I love salads, especially with roast pork on them.
re: #18 by WrathofG-d
It still really all comes down to the PROGS rejection of God.
To them there is no God and mankind is now god – gods don’t age and will live forever.
Haven’t you listened to these healthnutz? Even when a cure for this and that is found, now they want to tell everyone what they can eat because, “We still have a long way to go!”
Go where? On forever??? They seem to have forgetten that the biggist killer of humans is AGE!!!
re: #46 by WrathofG-d
Right. It’s like those people who don’t believe in the death penalty except when it’s justified. And the get to fill that blank in later.
The hypocrisy if the left was on full display when the NAACP of Texas was running those ads saying that it was Bush’s fault that one of the three murderers of James Byrd didn’t get the death penalty.
Aside from the obvious non sequitur about the governor having anything to do with prosecutions, they were getting upset about how they couldn’t get the death penalty for the guy who turned state’s evidence. And that was Bush’s fault.
re: #32 by mfhorn
I hope not, if it is, I’m a fugative
re: #59 by vapig
Worship of the Power of Man over the Power of G-d is what the story of the Tower of Babel is all about.
re: #53 by GrandJunctionite
Does that surprise you?
We’re all to bow down to Uncle Barack instead of relying on ourselves.
re: #57 by Urban Infidel
Hey Urban Infidel,
You have a great Mom, no doubt about that.
re: #57 by Urban Infidel
Three cheers for your Mom! My parents could never admit they were wrong. I guess they took that as a sign of weakness.
re: #47 by buzzsawmonkey
LOL
My oldest son a long time ago came home and said “I got swats today for stealing” expecting me to sympathize with him.
I said, son….bend over cuz you ain’t done yet!
Anything that would be considered breaking the law got a spanking in my house.
Otherwise, you got extra chores.
Once I made the boys clean the bathroom including the toilet.
Afterwards they said, mom could you just spank us next time?
LOL
re: #60 by snork
I’m not a Bush fan as everyone knows here. But it was so ridiculous seeing the Progressive blame Bush for everything. They couldn’t make up their minds whether he was an idiot or some all powerful being.
On Leftist blogs they would blame Bush for everything, even their cars breaking down!
re: #58 by chickadee
“Well, I just came in and made myself a nice salad.
I love salads, especially with roast pork on them”
I guess you wont be having any Muslims over for lunch then?
re: #67 by Rodan
That’s weird because when my car breaks down I blame my wife?
From a Post over at Hot Air
<A word search of the 1,990-page House healthcare bill (H.R. 3962) reveals that the term “tax” is used 87 times, “taxable” is used 62 times, and “excise tax” is used 10 times.
Other terms of interest are as follows:
House Healthcare Bill (H.R. 3962)
Term
Number of uses
“Tax” – 87 times
“Taxable” – 62 times
“Excise tax” – 10 times
“Taxes” – 15 times
“Fee” – 59 times
“Penalty” – 113 times
“Require” – 118 times
“Must” – 58 times
“Shall” – 3,424 times
re: #69 by Nevergiveup
Blame Obama!!!!!!!!!!
LOL!!!!!!!!!!
re: #66 by typicalwhitey
Good for you.I know parents who would’ve been at the school threatening whoever it was that dared catch their “innocent” child doing something anti social.
Kurtz: Joe Lieberman, an Elected Senator Charged with Voting His Judgment and His Constituency’s Will as Their Representative, Is “Holding Democracy Hostage” by Refusing to Vote for ObamaCare
—Ace
http://ace.mu.nu/
Liberals are rather undemocratic aren’t they?
re: #47 by buzzsawmonkey
I agree with your first analysis that not disciplining your child is child abuse.
It’s also a crime against society to turn the little beasts out to wreck havoc amongst the populuce.
re: #67 by Rodan
Or a hurricane.
re: #73 by Nevergiveup
Actually its the first time this constituent has agreed with Joe in a very long time.
55. Speranza on 29 October
I’ve always hated that term by the progs – designed to “humiliate” children.
The little heathens need to be taken down a peg or two. It’s healthy for them!
re: #74 by vapig
An interesting exploration of this is the Kipling short story, “Thrown Away”:
http://www.readbookonline.net/readOnLine/2476/
re: #75 by snork
Yes they blamed him for every hurricane. Over at Think Progress, the Commentators claim that Bush used a Weather Machine to ethnic cleanse New Orleans.
I am not joking.
re: #68 by Speranza
They are more than welcome if they are apostates.
62. buzzsawmonkey
Mankind has evidently not learned the lesson!
re: #72 by vagabond trader
Yup.
Just yesterday I heard of a parent berating a teacher because her child was bitten. Only problem is that her child was bitten because he stuck his finger in the face of another student, multiple times, and 3 times after being told to stop.
A normal parent would have told their kid they deserved it after that much instigation.
The bitten child would have been punished by the teacher the 1st time he was caught (before the biting) but the school has a policy against punishing the students (pre-school) in any way.
re: #79 by Rodan
He blew up the levees near the black neighborhoods too.//
re: #76 by vagabond trader
Well Joe has pretty much always been with us on the War on Terror
re: #76 by vagabond trader
Oh and he did keep my base open
re: #83 by vagabond trader
He blew up the levees near the black neighborhoods too.//
While blowing up the levis near the black neighborhoods, he was serving ice cream cohens to the whites.
re: #74 by vapig
It’s also a crime against society to turn the little beasts out to wreck havoc amongst the populuce.
Or bring them anywhere near a nice restaurant without provding proof of excellent manners and the ability to be still and quiet for at least an hour! Any objections and parents can pick up my tab!
Yeah, hubby went out to a nice restaurant last night. Table next to our booth had 2 parents on their Black Berrys the entire time and 3 little boys pretty much all over the place.
re: #87 by Russkilitlover
That’s why we has girls
re: #85 by Nevergiveup
Mine is a personal gripe with him from years ago when his office refused to help my disabled vet brother. No matter, I found a congress critter who assigned his VA aid to the situation and all ended well, no thanks to Joe.Sadly,this congressmens seat was gerrymandered out of existence.Figgers.
re: #79 by Rodan
Parts of the Muslim world blamed the Tsunami in Thailand on the Jooooos and their earthquake machine.
There is a reason why we as humans can’t remember our early childhood. This is the time when parents must discipline a child with spanking to instill the notion that disobedience is wrong. And I don’t mean whipping a child or abuse, but merely 1 to 3 swats on the butt. My X had a real problem with me spanking our child when he was a toddler. But it worked and he obeys me and doesn’t have any idea how that came about.
Back the the non recollection of early child hood. My son cannot remember his early discipline but subconsciously knows from it that he must obey me and he doesn’t know why. I stopped spanking him well before he was four and had to do it after that time only a handful of times. This no remembering also serves another purpose. There is no enmity between us because he can only remember being spanked a few times and does not consider it abuse. He knew he had done wrong and accepted the sentence.
One more thing. I always talked to my son about the punishment he was to receive and after it was done I hugged him and told him I loved him and him receiving the punishment was not something I wanted to do, but was necessary since I will have to answer to God about the way he was raised and nurtured.
Proverbs 22:6 Train a child in the way he should go, and when he is old he will not turn from it.
re: #86 by buzzsawmonkey
Yes, but what color were those levis?
78. buzzsawmonkey
YES!!! Exactly!
Another reason why I hate PROGS! They are always trying to fix what’s NOT broken!
re: #87 by Russkilitlover
Back in the 70’s and early 80’s my parents would get compliments on how well behaved me and my younger brothers were in restaraunts. Of course my parents made sure we were properly behaved at the home dinner table as well. Eating out was not a right but a privilege growing up.
re: #89 by vagabond trader
Understand
re: #72 by vagabond trader
Well we felt that if it were something that they would be severely punished for in “real life” then that is what would have to happen at home.
My middle boy was dating a seriously underage girl. We tried talking to him over and over about it. What worked though was when I graphically described what would happen to him in prison, if the girls parents wanted to prosecute him. I showed him how he would be defined the rest of his life by this one action.
Don’t know if it was because of our talk, but the girl was gone…pronto!
Every situation needs a different parental reaction it seems.
As for my grandson though, it’s funny because nothing he does seems to merit any kind of discipline from me or the hubster. I would have to say that papa is even more lenient than grammy is lol. The second I leave the living room, he is into the cabinets etc because he knows papa doesn’t care. When grammy comes back in though, you should see the cute look on his face as he slowly…..closes…the….door.
Or when he tears up the newspaper….papa thinks its funny, grammy worries he will eat it
Did anyone here Rushie today? He played a clip of Pelosi giving a speech about her retooled H.C. power grab to what she thought was a Republican free crowd. She got heckled, though as soon as she started, by a guy with a bull horn.
He was shouting, “Nazi pelosi, Nazi pelosi, you will burn in Hell for this.”
LOL
Personally, my grudge with “no spanking laws” is that it is hypocritical. The “Progressives” will tell you that you have no right to tell them how to treat their body, or run their personal lives (abortion, homosexuality, etc) but they have absolutely ZERO problem telling you how to run yours (how you should discipline your children).
If I wish to use physical punishment to discipline my child, that is my business. I don’t need someone who has never met me, my children, etc., to tell me what is right for my kids, or what I should do with them.
Yes, of course, there is a limit to the liberty of how to hit your kids, but the laws don’t really address that are are hyper sensitive.
87. Russkilitlover
GROAN! Yes! Parents who will NOT dicipline their children (resurants/ planes/ etc) in public drive me crazy!
If I’d acted like that in public my parents would have blistered my hide (just an expression, folks) right on the spot!
My mother would often tell a story (that I do not remember by the way) of a shopper giving her grief about paddling me in the store. My mother’s response was that I wouldn’t remember what I had done wrong if she waited until we got home.
re: #97 by chickadee
LOL, did you see how the most ethical madam speaker shut Americans out of the bill unveiling? They are going to try to pass this abomination in the dead of night or on a holiday.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/29/house-democratic-bill-ceremony-closed-public/
re: #94 by PaladinPhil
LOL! We had the same parents!
We looked on going out to dinner as a special priviledge. Besides, if we didn’t get to go out, we would’ve had to eat mom’s cooking. She HATED to cook and…..it tasted like it.
Report: Cash for Clunkers Auto Program Cost Taxpayers $24,000 Per Vehicle
A report conducted by the automotive information firm Edmunds.com found that of the nearly 690,000 vehicles sold under the program, only 125,000 of the sales were incremental.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/29/report-cash-clunkers-auto-program-cost-taxpayer-vehicle/?test=latestnews
And yeah lets allow the Federal Gov to run health care. Great idea.
re: #100 by vagabond trader
I wonder what time saturday night the vote will be?
//
re: #101 by Russkilitlover
I learned to cook in self defense. My mom could cook nutritous, sometimes though it was just edible.
/still love her though
I have a friend with 4 daughters. All so beautifully behaved and never beaten. She just followed through on her ultimatums of going to their rooms for a specific time , having privileges taken away, including toys when they were younger and now getting grounded if need be. She also made them do chores and live up to responsibilities that were age appropriate.
She set the tone for the family. Calm, loving, stern when she had to be. I always tell her I wish she was my Mom.
re: #94 by PaladinPhil
Good sound parental discipline also brings early maturity as well as manners to children as you and the siblings are a testament of.
re: #93 by vapig
They have an answer to that, too. Break it.
Harry Browne said something like “the government will break your legs and then hand you a pair of crutches”.
Said it before, but I would give anything to be deservedly swatted by my mother and to have one more bowl of her matzo ball soup.
re: #99 by vapig
So true.
My youngest daughter was about 8 and wouldn’t quit acting up at the store. I warned her that if she didn’t she would have to stand in the corner.
She didn’t believe me.
She did it again in the check out aisle and then had to stand in the corner while I continued checking out and paying for my groceries (small town, small store)
Thats when she learned, I only will say it once. MAYBE twice. NEVER three times.
But I WONT wait until we get home lol.
And she never repeated that behavior in the store again.
re: #101 by Russkilitlover
Our family, in my youth, rarely dined out. If we did it was never in a restaurant. It was always the local 19 cent hamburger stand or Dairy Queen. And like yours, my mom could not cook. I learned to cook as a young boy from my grandmothers and did most of the cooking in our home. And I didn’t mind since I love to cook.
re: #100 by vagabond trader
They are thieves and Nazi Pelosi is the ring leader.
Rush was talking to day that what they are doing will make Madoff’s Ponzi scheme look like chump change.
Pelosi is stealing billions and yet she gets to go free.
I had a cousin whose parents were split on punishment. My stay-at-home blood aunt would want to punish the girl when she was bratty (aqnd she could be bratty), but my lawyer uncle just didn’t want to be seen as the enemy, the heavy. So my cousin learned to play one against the other (as any child will if they can get away with it). Now in her 40’s, she’s done three stints in jail, divorced three times, and shacked up with I don’t how many guys. It seems she’s still looking for love thanks to no discipline as a child.
Every child is different. What works with one kid doesn’t necessarily work with another one.
Any parent who categorically rules out ANY kind of corporal punishment is silly, IMO.
As for these parents’ guilt about yelling, perhaps they wouldn’t be compelled to yell so much if their kids were better disciplined.
Then again, perhaps they are setting absurdly high standards on their own behavior in an attempt to raise their darlings in a pure and perfect environment. Which pretty much ensures that the little brats will grow up to be capons and/or utopians.
Testosterone is the enforcer of justice.
Somebody had to say it.
re: #114 by snork
And what of Estrogen?
re: #113 by wolfie
It’s even more basic. Anybody who’s ever had a litter of animals knows that the personalities are all different. The (probably moonbat) parent who struts around saying that he/she never had to use corporal punishment, if telling the truth, is lucky rather than superior.
Telling a parent not to use every means available to control an unruly kid is like telling a dog owner to just let the dog run loose in the streets.
And these same people will complain about the dog.
re: #115 by song_and_dance_man
He and Vladimir are waiting for Godot.
re: #117 by buzzsawmonkey
I had no idea Susan Estrogen was a character in Waiting for Godot.
/must be on leave from USC
re: #77 by vapig
“The little heathens need to be taken down a peg or two. It’s healthy for them!
I do not consider spanking to be healthy for them. just my opinion, and it is designed to humiliate them, that is undeniable.
re: #4 by Speranza
Larry David pisses on the Koran at Hollywood party. That is all the seethers needs to go crazy.
re: #113 by wolfie
Kind of like a president who categorically rules out military force when negotiating with an enemy?
Come to think of it, that’s pretty much Obama to a T–he wants to be the “cool parent” to the world, have all the kids love him.
And child experts will tell you, merely saying “don’t do that” or “Hey guys, knock off that uranium enrichment, okay?” over and over again won’t end up doing much.
re: #114 by snork
Now you’ve done it:
The Female of the Species
—Rudyard Kipling, 1911
When the Himalayan peasant meets the he-bear in his pride,
He shouts to scare the monster, who will often turn aside.
But the she-bear thus accosted rends the peasant tooth and nail.
For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.
When Nag the basking cobra hears the careless foot of man,
He will sometimes wriggle sideways and avoid it if he can.
But his mate makes no such motion where she camps beside the trail.
For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.
When the early Jesuit fathers preached to Hurons and Choctaws,
They prayed to be delivered from the vengeance of the squaws.
‘Twas the women, not the warriors, turned those stark enthusiasts pale.
For the female of the species is more deadly than the male.
Man’s timid heart is bursting with the things he must not say,
For the Woman that God gave him isn’t his to give away;
But when hunter meets with husband, each confirms the other’s tale—
The female of the species is more deadly than the male.
Man, a bear in most relations—worm and savage otherwise, —
Man propounds negotiations, Man accepts the compromise.
Very rarely will he squarely push the logic of a fact
To its ultimate conclusion in unmitigated act.
Fear, or foolishness, impels him, ere he lay the wicked low,
To concede some form of trial even to his fiercest foe.
Mirth obscene diverts his anger—Doubt and Pity oft perplex
Him in dealing with an issue—to the scandal of The Sex!
But the Woman that God gave him, every fibre of her frame
Proves her launched for one sole issue, armed and engined for the same;
And to serve that single issue, lest the generations fail,
The female of the species must be deadlier than the male.
She who faces Death by torture for each life beneath her breast
May not deal in doubt or pity—must not swerve for fact or jest.
These be purely male diversions—not in these her honour dwells.
She the Other Law we live by, is that Law and nothing else.
She can bring no more to living than the powers that make her great
As the Mother of the Infant and the Mistress of the Mate.
And when Babe and Man are lacking and she strides unclaimed to claim
Her right as femme (and baron), her equipment is the same.
She is wedded to convictions—in default of grosser ties;
Her contentions are her children, Heaven help him who denies!—
He will meet no suave discussion, but the instant, white-hot, wild,
Wakened female of the species warring as for spouse and child.
Unprovoked and awful charges—even so the she-bear fights,
Speech that drips, corrodes, and poisons—even so the cobra bites,
Scientific vivisection of one nerve till it is raw
And the victim writhes in anguish—like the Jesuit with the squaw!
So it cames that Man, the coward, when he gathers to confer
With his fellow-braves in council, dare not leave a place for her
Where, at war with Life and Conscience, he uplifts his erring hands
To some God of Abstract Justice—which no woman understands.
And Man knows it! Knows, moreover, that the Woman that God gave him
Must command but may not govern—shall enthral but not enslave him.
And She knows, because She warns him, and Her instincts never fail,
That the Female of Her Species is more deadly than the Male.
re: #109 by typicalwhitey
The only reason you could apply that remedy is that your daughter was already sufficiently disciplined to stay in the corner when you ordered her to do so.
I have seen parents who cannot use time-outs and the like because the child will not comply.
And the parent is then helpless. Sad.
re: #120 by orangecrush
Liberals are too cowardly to do that.
re: #119 by Speranza
Yes, the “Greatest generation” who were swatted by their parents often (as it was typical) turned out so horribly; much better than the coddled generation X & Y we see today.
/
re: #122 by buzzsawmonkey
Sexist!
(Sorry, couldn’t resist)
Did somebody say “Hollywood Party?”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LcSPYrqZy-c
re: #119 by Speranza
I deny it. Or rather, that it must be so. I don’t see how swatting a child’s rear in private, with no one else in the room, is humiliating. Slapping their face in front of their friends? Sure, that’s designed for humiliation and will probably make them bitter, but applying some temporary pain to teach a lesson, if important, is another thing. And if it is unhealthy it is less so than neglecting the lesson.
I was spanked, more than once, though I don’t remember any particular incident or why at this point I consider myself perfectly healthy, mentally and emotionally.
(I know, I know, that’s what they all say.)
re: #125 by WrathofG-d
I do not believe in corporal punishment except under the severest of circumstances. I also remember my teachers screaming at me and others over the most minor infractions – o mean screaming and humiliating for things like not being able to tell time proeprly (I was in the 3rd or 4th grade), yeah a real miscreant I was. Fucking douche bag Mrs. Domsky (3rd grade teacher).
re: #119 by Speranza
You and I are not going to agree on this.
While not all children need pain reinforcement, most do and not to do so is child abuse of the worst kind, guaranteed to lead them into a truly miserable life.
Letting children run around like a bunch of wild animals is not condusive to their physical or mental health.
It’s not humiliating to be taught to survive!
This is a perfect example of what I’ve been biotching about:
So we have a thread getting all worked up over a confirmation of the uncontroversial.
I don’t get it. Next thread: water is wet!!!!11 OMGponies11ty!!!!11
If Chuck thinks this stuff makes him look smart, he’s partially right. He looks smart to idiots. Is that his new target market?
re: #128 by Nikis Knight
Yo don’t see nothing humiliating about being whacked on your bare ass?
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re: #131 by snork
He really is fishing for thread topics. Oh well Beck is still around.
re: #15 by vagabond trader
So do I — ColorSilk works just great!
re: #131 by snork
How quick did that topic go off thread – 10 posts?
OK, she is a liberal moonbat, and an Obama supporter, but for a woman pushing 40, there is nothing wrong with Sarah Silverman. Her looks anyway.
The mind, like I said, Obama supporter.
re: #129 by Speranza
My point (although sarcastically and I apologize for that) is that we need to look at the results.
When I look at the totality, I believe society in general is getting worse. There is a reason we call the greatest generation the Greatest Generation. We need to look at what worked in producing such a generation. The way I see it, we have taken everything that worked, wuss-ified it, turned it on its head, and now wonder why it is that things are going to heck in a hand basket.
The Greatest Generation was not coddled, were spanked, were screamed at, were expected to act responsibly, and were punished if they weren’t/didn’t. This stayed with them.
I know how you feel about it, and I know how I feel about it -but what is important is the results!
re: #134 by Speranza
Maybe he’s just bored with running 1.0 and wants to shut the site down by driving everyone off.
re: #126 by mfhorn
The interesting section of the poem is the following:
If you note the dour yet vicious pursuit of alleged sinners against the Primal Sins of “sexism,” “racism,” “homophobia”—or “anti-science-ism” for that matter—at certain locations, you can see the operation of these stanzas in real life.
What Kipling refers to as “the barren women” in his short story “One Side of the Question” do in these instances is substitute their political convictions, however arrived at, for human ties, and war viciously on their behalf.
re: #132 by Speranza
I’m not a child, for one. For another, humiliation is about one’s standing in the eyes of his peers. It would be more humiliating for a child to have a tale of his punishment (and reation to ie) spread than to experience it privately.
Yes, spanking can be done in a way designed to humiliate, but it can also be done in a way designed to mitigate humiliation, as I described. Children do not usually come with complex moral reasoning and a desire for virtue and capability for reason to rule emotion. While this is being inculcated, something must connect wrong doing with being undesireable–and pain is the method that nature uses to teach us what not to do, after all. Pain teaches not to piece your skin or touch fire; no reason not to use it teach not to steal, or bully, or lie, if reasoning and cajolling do not work.
Of course, any punishment can be used improperly and accidently teach the opposite lesson. It’s not easy to do perfectly, which is why parents should have a certain measure of humility and be willing to apoligize when wrong, and certainly I don’t claim to have all or any answers, other than to know from experience that a bit of spanking won’t harm a normal child’s psyche.
re: #122 by buzzsawmonkey
Chucky would do well to read and understand that, given some of the hissing and growling coming out of his basement.
re: #129 by Speranza
Right – so because you had an insane teacher who didn’t know how to teach, we’re all supposed to just toss the entire diciplinary structure as flawed.
That’s prog thinking!
re: #130 by vapig
I’m with you on this one. If nothing else, my kids are polite and respectful to others.
I put the fear of ma in them!
(j/k… kinna… after the first couple you really don’t have to do it daily or anything, gaah!)
These people started out with the no dicipline meme, too! How long before their children are somple taken from them and raised by the state?
re: #135 by Empire1
Empire!
[deleted by request of the commenter- m]
Dammit I don’t know how that happened. Please delete it. Heck I thought I copied four posts. Sorry
144. m
Yes – I believe that! And I believe your children are well trained polite little dolls.
It’s also probably correct that if they aren’t already trained by the time they are seven then you – as a parent – are in deep doo-doo!
re: #148 by Grimcargo
Good thing 2.0 didn’t allow all 600. I would be scrolling for 15 minutes.
re: #147 by Grimcargo
Grim, DO NOT do that again please. We do not need the entire thread placed here like that.
If you have something to say about the thread, go right ahead and give examples. If you feel some need to post every stupid comment then do it in parts.
M if you or Roden are here. Please delete that dang thing I posted. Sorry I never knew I copied all that.
My mother wasn’t a yeller. It was the look in her steely, pale blue Irish eyes that did it.
re: #151 by WrathofG-d
Read his 148
re: #151 by WrathofG-d
I already said I am sorry. I NEVER thought I copied that whole thing.
re: #154 by song_and_dance_man
Yes, I saw that after I posted my comment.
I personally am NOT going to delete it because I don’t like deleting things. I like to let the record stand.
re: #145 by vapig
You can’t watch your own CHILDREN? And just how the hell are you supposed to prevent a REAL paedofile from taking them?!
Good GOD!
re: #157 by mfhorn
Oh I see. Government approved playground supervisors.
(eyeroll) What a crock.
re: #157 by mfhorn
In the U.K. you are not allowed to have a child without the Governments permission.
Meaning, if you decided you wanted to birth a child in your own home, you would have to invite a Government official to come monitor the birth.
I believe the punishment for not having a Government official present is jail.
153. Urban Infidel
I inherited “The Look” from my mother. I once used it on a rambunctous child in line at the grocery store. He shut up as though I’d struck him!
His mother, instead of getting mad, grabbed my arm and asked me if I could teach it to her!
re: #155 by Grimcargo
What is the purpose in posting even a fragment of that?
If I want to see a dead hand reaching up from the grave, I can add something to my Netflix queue.
re: #138 by WrathofG-d
Too bad the “greatest generation”perhaps due to their own childhood deprivations coddled their own kids,the baby baby boom generation. We boomers have certainly made a mess out of things.
The Israelis are at it again…
Oil City and Plain Dealing, LA.
Noted hook echo approaching. Should miss Shreveport and the casinos…
re: #161 by buzzsawmonkey
Well you can be sure I won’t do it again.
But I did have a purpose which if I have to explain wouldn’t mean anything to you anyway.
OT:
So I just saw a picture of the most recent Public Ownership Through Health Bill, and….well..
…I find it funny that the Founding fathers were able to set the entire Countries fouding up on one page, but the current morons need thousands to do one aspect of Governance…..
re: #160 by vapig
It was also that I thought my mother embodied everything that was good and right. I respected her from the start, so that LOOK was enough. It went right through me. It said it all. She never put up with whining, complaining or any nonsense whatsoever.
re: #159 by WrathofG-d
Sounds like they’re even more screwed than we are! In a decades time, under the Bamster, we could top that, though…
re: #165 by Grimcargo
To tell you the truth, the way most of those importations splay out on the screen here, it is like deciphering the Dead Sea Scrolls (except not as spiritually uplifting) to figure out which is the post that is being replied to, and which is the reply–and whether the recorded dingies are up or down.
re: #122 by buzzsawmonkey
Upding! I love Kipling’s poetry.
re: #162 by vagabond trader
I cannot blame the “Greatest Generation” for the result, insofar that at that point they didn’t know what the result would be. Any acts on their part which were guided by emotions were understandable at that point in time -again, they hadn’t seen the destructive effects.
Today, however we do not have that excuse.
re: #169 by buzzsawmonkey
You summed up Bedlam very nicely.
re: #160 by vapig
Oh…I am expert at “the look” and I am a guy!
OT:
Wow, not too long ago, I mentioned here that there is a growing left-wing movement against Lou Dobbs of CNN because of his stance on illegal immigration.
I had heard about it – “Basta Dobbs” – on Pacifica Radio.
Today, I see this: CNN’s Lou Dobbs Claims Shot Fired at Home, Wife
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/jeff-poor/2009/10/29/cnns-lou-dobbs-claims-shots-fired-home-wife
Left-Wing Crazies At It Again!
re: #169 by buzzsawmonkey
HAHAHa I know. I would point out the one but I be a SKEERED now. but it was about Irish Rose and The assweesil.
re: #171 by WrathofG-d
Then along that line you cannot blame the child for a response of entitlement fueled by overly indulgent parents.
re: #169 by buzzsawmonkey
Yeah, when people post from other sites, they need to add notation to clarify who is speaking where.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MjM3OWEwMjUxNTVhODAzZjc1NWY1YzVhZWJhMzYxZmQ=
re: #169 by buzzsawmonkey
I’d like to see the ‘replied-to’ postings on here maybe clustered together, too.
re: #178 by Rancher
Then we should ALL respond that we are not citizens.That’ll really screw up their utopian fantasies.
re: #161 by buzzsawmonkey
Speaking of which, Netflix rocks. I got stuck on watching four back to back different Frontline docs from my puter the other night, and probably could’ve kept going if not for the need of sleep. There’s so much to see and so little time!!
re: #174 by WrathofG-d
I have a feeling that or something like it has happened to Glenn Beck from just a short comment I heard him make. It’s too bad that was reported because it’ll just draw more nuts.
re: #175 by Grimcargo
We’re they fighting to impress Master Ponytail?
re: #178 by Rancher
It might be a little early, but I might as well bring it up now:
When you get your census form and you get to the question on ‘race’, check ‘other, and write in ‘Human’. If you were born here, you could also check ‘Native American’.
re: #176 by vagabond trader
No, I imagine I wouldn’t. As a society however, we can see the results and have to …CHANGE our way of doing things, and revert back to a manner of raising children the results in another Great generation.
re: #183 by tuffy
*Were*, lol.
re: #148 by Grimcargo
Are they trying to compete with me? I’d be hard pressed to write satire more ridiculous that some of that.
I may have to hang it up, when they start doing that. Maybe that’s how Chuck’ll keep his traffic. Round-the-clock self-satire.
re: #181 by tuffy
They’re very good—except that there is a whole stack of early ’30s films that they do not seem to have.
You think that independent women, homosexual subtext, and hot sex are new to the movies? You need to look at the stuff from 1929 to 1934.
‘Desecrated flag’ video is DNC finalist
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28848.html
re: #156 by WrathofG-d
But maybe you can trim the first 80% or so?
re: #148 by Grimcargo
Gotcha!
/you’re not the first :}
Ok Mandy Manners post #578 she got some nerve for a change. from there you can see the ongoing exchange.
Larry David is so NOT cutting edge. Larry if you want to be cutting edge with your humor nothing lends itself to funny situations like islam. It’s so funny you would loose your head by laughing it off. Oops, I meant to say having it hacked off. I’m sure you see the humor there Larry, like a fellow Jew, Daniel Pearl or the thousands who died because of a few stupid cartoons. Come on Larry, how about a piss Mohammed, you little weasel. It’s so easy to make fun of Christians but you’re too chicken shit to make fun of Mohammed. Maybe it’s time for those who have HBO to discontinue their service and let HBO know why…put your money where your beliefs are.
re: #177 by Nikis Knight
re: #169 by buzzsawmonkey
I try to use nested blockquotes to do that. If done correctly, it’s usually clear who’s saying what.
re: #183 by tuffy
No it was actually Irish Rose calling out Weesil and of course sharmuta and Mandy joined.
re: #149 by vapig
Little dolls might be pushing it a bit ~:D
They’re young teens now ~ and we all survived!
They used to be quite the little dolls, though ~:)
re: #189 by WrathofG-d
This potus has the nerve to salute our dead as their remains are returned in flag draped coffins.
Update:
Two guys from this group still being sought.
re: #195 by Grimcargo
Sounds like a Cat e gory 5 fight.
re: #144 by m
re: #130 by vapig
I’m with you on this one. If nothing else, my kids are polite and respectful to others.
I put the fear of ma in them!
Key word there ,fear. Kids these days don’t have enough growing up and sometimes they learn too late. As to parenting, not abject fear of bloodletting, but the component of respect that begins as fear in small chidren.
I hope this is coming across right.
When my middle daughter was 12, we went to the store. On the way out the beepers in the door started dinging. She was trying to lift some makeup. Now, theft is something thats a very sore subject with me and she knew it.
I whacked her in the back of the head right there in the store. I regretted it but I lost it for a second. The only time I ever hit one of my kids.
Fast forward 12 years and she’s writing an essay for a college course and tells this story. And a little more. Turns out she had been shoplifting for a couple of years, right up until the moment I cuffed her. She never did it again. Fear of getting hit and mostly fear of disappointing me again.
The fear component of respect. Kids are taught so much ’self respect’ these days that they never learn the true meaning of the word until life teaches them the hard way.
re: #196 by m
Adorable,just like their Ma!
178. Rancher
It’s insane. Do the Mexican even realize they are sabotaging their built-in steam-releaser by over-burdoning our already crippled system?
What happens to them when they can’t send their poor to us anymore because we are worse off than them?
re: #196 by m
Somali who claims to be centenarian marries teen
http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/oct/29/somali-who-claims-to-be-centenarian-marries-teen/
re: #197 by vagabond trader
As much as I dislike the CIC, it is his suty to salute in such cases. He’d be blasted for not saluting.
The fact that he used the entire trip for a photo op is what’s truly disgusting.
re: #188 by buzzsawmonkey
Yeah, there have been a “few” things I haven’t been able to find. But they are slowly gobbling up every video on the planet, so they’re gettin’ there. Hollywood Video, who?? It’s like a ghost town in there these days, and I wonder how much longer they will be able to survive. They tried to jump on the “online/mail videos” bandwagon, but alas, they were too late. Netflix really got ahead of the curve there. We only go to Hollywood Video as a last, for something spontaneous. That’s something Netflix CAN’T do. I hope neither of them go anywhere to fulfill my every need.
re: #197 by vagabond trader
I think it is nice for the President of the United States to show respect for our fallen soldiers.
If I need to find a place to be bothered, it would be the classlessness of him allowing the press to photo it.
re: #204 by GrandJunctionite
I think that is what she meant. He was using the bodies, their scarifice, and the moment for his personal political advantage. Like the scumbag he is.
re: #187 by snork
Wow, it looks like they really WERE trying to define butthurt?!? *YAAAAAAWWWN*
re: #205 by tuffy
I’m not familiar with Hollywood Video, but will have to check it out.
In the meantime, check out the “Hollywood Party” link I provided upthread.
re: #202 by vapig
Then the progressives of the world join hands and sing in praise of the equality they brought forth.
re: #204 by GrandJunctionite
I am referring to the flag desecration on his re-election website that Wrath linked and comparing it to his supposed respect for our flag.
196. m
Wow! You’re not kidding! They are (were – but I’m sure still ARE) adorable!
You are indeed blessed!
re: #203 by WrathofG-d
Hopefully we have a viagra embargo on such nations?
re: #207 by Nevergiveup
Hence my disdain for the photo op.
GWB was there many times quietly. But he didn’t let the press in, BHO did that.
re: #189 by WrathofG-d
That ‘desecrated flag’ was so incredibly boring. Graffiti is ugly and boring. The left’s constant desecration of our symbol of everlasting freedom is ugly and boring.
So tedious, all of them. Just garbage.
About that UK law that won’t let parents (i.e., adults not certified by the state) into the park with their own children. This is purportedly being done to meet the threat of pedophiles.
Why are we so terrified about pedophilia today?
Has it increased greatly since, say, the 50’s?
Why are we so concerned about our kids’ innocence when we bombard them with sexual material through the media and the schools?
Why would anyone (in their right mind) think that parents are more likely to be pedophiles than the average certified kiddie-park monitor?
re: #208 by tuffy
I think it has to do with so many commenters who are a pain in the ass.
re: #206 by WrathofG-d
And the fact that he looks like a fish out of water doesn’t make it better.
re: #206 by WrathofG-d
Jeesh Wrath, ya think the fact that he just HAD to use it for a photo op might cancel out so called good intentions? Puhleeze!
Meanwhile, when he is he going to stop fcking around with the lives of our troops in A-stan? Respect indeed.
re: #214 by GrandJunctionite
Actually I read he was NOT ever at Dover. He was at Walter Reed and Bethesda Naval many many times, but never allowed it to be photographed for publication. Some people have class and dignity and some don’t.
re: #211 by vagabond trader
Oh. I better go find that link. If that is that the video with the flag being desecrated on a wall? Then all I can say is
*Spit*
Judge Rejects Call for Long Sentence in Case of Al Qaeda Agent
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,570305,00.html
This is why it’s suicidal to try these terrorist scumbags in Civilian Courts.
re: #216 by wolfie
Because the government wouldn’t harm the kids.
Oh, you said right mind. I dunno.
I don’t think it is so much a terror of pedophilia as it is a necessity for a government solution to every problem. Look at our Consumer Product Safety Act, aka throw out every childs toy and book made before the 80’s (or so) and cripple industries with new regulations to solve an isolated problem.
Sorry. I missed the video at #189 after scrolling through that long copy and paste job.
re: #221 by GrandJunctionite
That is the one and it is apparently being given the blessing of potus and the DNC. wtf?
The GDP grew 3.5% so the administration is calling the recession over. GDP is based on government spending, consumer spending, and commercial investment. The growth is mainly due to massive government spending and an increase in consumer spending due to artificial incentive like Cash for Clunkers and the homebuyers tax credit. Business investment fell 2.5%. It’s an entirely fake recovery, based on spending money the government doesn’t have to spend. Rush likened it to getting a $10,000 advance on your credit card and telling your wife you got a $10,000 raise.
See KEYNESIAN FALLACY: http://www.dickmorris.com/blog/2009/02/04/keynesian-fallacy/
re: #225 by vagabond trader
They will do anything to promote their O-Care bill. Thats what it boils down too.
OT:
and the Muslim monster gets chills…
http://www.daylife.com/photo/0gfqbNC7Cj4Sm?q=Israel
re: #222 by Nevergiveup
The link doesn’t say whether the POS is a naturalized American. I wonder what his citizenship status is? Anyway, we can look forward to about 300 more stories like this if BHO gets his Gitmo wish.
re: #215 by Urban Infidel
re: #189 by WrathofG-d
That ‘desecrated flag’ was so incredibly boring. Graffiti is ugly and boring. The left’s constant desecration of our symbol of everlasting freedom is ugly and boring.
So tedious, all of them. Just garbage
/Hey it’s symbolism at it’s most refined and you should be happy for it.
When the revolution comes its hard to be hurt by a symbolic rifle./
{Vapig}! {Vagabond Trader}! Thanks y’all! I am blessed. They’re good kids.
re: #222 by Nevergiveup
But U.S. District Judge Michael Mihm said he doesn’t think former Bradley graduate student Ali al-Marri has renounced the terrorist group and was likely to attack the U.S. if given the chance.
But what the hell, he’s suffered enough. Can this Judge be fired? Should a conservative win for POTUS he can fire who he wants, right?
re: #223 by Nikis Knight
Isn’t it just amazing that the human race didn’t go extinct before we had evolved enough to realize how many laws are required to protect us from the harsh environment? And to protect the environment from the harsh, evil humans, too? Yesss, lots of lovely laws to regulate and control…
re: #196 by m
Future babe magnets – if not already by now!
re: #223 by Nikis Knight
I am still reeling over what I call the great book-burning. Mustn’t have anything pre-1985, unless the Enlightened Ones choose to re-publish it. Sooooo many great children’s books from 50 years ago. So few now.
Ah well. At least I am comforted by the fact that 2 yr olds ingesting 6 whole books will not get a (barely)traceable amount of lead in their system.
How long before their tax exempt status is challenged?
http://www.catholic.org/politics/story.php?id=34735
re: #209 by buzzsawmonkey
My cat is sitting right here next to me and she was really intrigued with the beginning of the vid when all the chicks are singing and throwing their limbs around.
Are you into old movies?
/Stupid question, huh?
re: #143 by vapig
Don’t ever call me a “progressive”.
re: #232 by Rancher
He was nominated by Ronnie?
Glen Beck is back! Solely for the purpose of tormenting Charles! It is so funny!
re: #232 by Rancher
IIRC U.S. District judges are lifetime appointments
re: #233 by Iron Fist
Heck, if I were a secularist who was fascinated with evolution I’d have to be a libertarian on grounds that the nanny-state is breeding out all of our common sense and survival instinct.
As opposed to being pro freedom because humans have a God-given right to liberty.
http://www.daylife.com/photo/0dal5KxdBBeoh?q=Jewish
re: #241 by GrandJunctionite
Well they can be impeached
re: #233 by Iron Fist
Yesterday I was typing up a disciplinary report on a hearing I had held on an inmate assault. I was trying not to dismiss the charge against this POS that had stabbed another inmate in the back but some procedures weren’t followed during the investigation and concerning key evidence. I’m still new at this and asked the Disciplinary Officer, an old hand, about my concerns. She pointed out the differences in policy that said “should” as opposed to “shall”. “Shall left no wiggle room, it had to be done that way. Everything that was done wrong was in the “should” category so I nailed the guy to the wall. Today Rush was saying that the new health care bill had the word “shall” in it 3425 times. Tell me that isn’t a major erosion of our freedom. Now we all can be in prison.
re: #243 by WrathofG-d
I wonder how that’ll be used as an excuse for seething in the Middle East by the Religion of Pieces.
I hope they put Mr. Al-Marri in a federal Pen with the general population.
I also hope his cell mates name is Bubba.
Re: “Larry David Urinates on Jesus Painting; Catholics Not Enthused”
As a Baptist, I’m not enthused or amused by that, either.
But how many Catholics, Protestants and Baptists rioted in the streets once that story came out?
re: #245 by Rancher
I also saw a report somewhere that they’re pushing to make it possible to sign up for ObamaCare at places like the Drivers License office.
Yet photo ID is a way to keep ‘the poor’ from voting.
re: #245 by Rancher
Yep. Good post. See my #70
Number of uses
“Tax” – 87 times
“Taxable” – 62 times
“Excise tax” – 10 times
“Taxes” – 15 times
“Fee” – 59 times
“Penalty” – 113 times
“Require” – 118 times
“Must” – 58 times
“Shall” – 3,424 times
re: #236 by vagabond trader
As long as they aren’t endorsing a candidate or party, they’re okay. (Unless they are lefties, in which case they can do whatever they damned well please.)
How long before Catholic hospitals have to shut down?
re: #248 by CloudyDay
And if it had happened, you can bet we’d hear about it for the next 6 months.
And Chuckles would have a dozen threads about it.
re: #245 by Rancher
Good post!
Folks, I think Rancher is uniquely qualified to tell us what to expect in the New! Improved! Fundamentally Changed! America.
re: #246 by mfhorn
Rachel’s tomb is Judaism’s “third holiest shrine”.
Thus it would be the equivalent to the Temple Mount for the Muslims.
Just something to think about.
re: #242 by Nikis Knight
See Idiocracy.
http://www.cinemablend.com/reviews/Idiocracy-1775.html
re: #245 by Rancher
They’ll tell us all how to live, what to eat, when to breathe, and when to die. It is all about power and control. It is amazing the liberty that has been lost in the last 100 years, most of it in the name of making our lives better.
re: #256 by Iron Fist
And it started just about 100 years ago, too.
re: #250 by GrandJunctionite
Good Lord I’m glad I’m old. I had the Reagan years, the good old days. I’m ashamed at what I’m leaving my kids.
Photo Essay: A Visit to the Matriarch Rachel´s Fortified Tomb
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/114866
re: #235 by wolfie
That law banning any book printed before 1985 is one of the greatest acts of cultural vandalism and literature/literacy suppression ever promulgated.
And it was passed off as a safety measure.
I do not believe in book burning—and for that reason I would burn alive the promulgators of this abomination.
re: #258 by Rancher
I have spent the better part of the day trying to go through this 1990 page disaster. I don’t consider myself a to be of superior intelect, but I’m no dummy either and I can understand very little of what I have read.
I know this much, Federal Funding of Abortions IS contained in this bill.
re: #237 by tuffy
“Old movies” = the record of America before it became a PC wasteland.
Am I “into” them? Yes.
re: #260 by buzzsawmonkey
Hugh Hewitt spent a lot of time in the summer tallking about that absurdity. It’s just painful to think about. 2nd had stores and charities are basically going to need to dump all their childrens goods.
It’s like a cash for clunkers program without the cash.
re: #247 by GrandJunctionite
Just did a Google search for “Illinois Muslim prison conversions”, (without the quotes). 22,900,000 hits.
re: #242 by Nikis Knight
As one of the resident secularists who likes to read about genetics and dinosaurs and stuff…
There are good reasons to be pro-liberty which don’t rely on God. I can think of two.
Ayn Rand had one: morality can be constructed from the axiom “human life == good”. Liberty allows humans to live their lives; oppression does not. That’s sort of a mathematician’s libertarianism. It’s kind of… cold, but that’s Ayn Rand for you.
There’s also the school of thought that people have two innate drives: to avoid being crushed under someone else’s boot, and to be the person crushing others under your own boot. Libertarians understand that there are a limited number of job openings for boot-crusher. They also understand that even if they got to be one of the boot-crushers, they would no longer be able to enjoy the society of their peers; it’s a life of fear. So, liberty is better because it’s just easier and more fun to live that way.
re: #263 by Nikis Knight
It’s not the money. It’s the fact that nobody ever experienced any problem prior to 1985 because of “lead” or whatever in the fucking ink of children’s books.
And there are literally thousands of fantastic books prior to 1985 which are out of print, which have beautiful illustrations and brilliant and non-PC stories which are now consigned to the dumps because some asshole got this garbage in his head.
re: #265 by Zimriel
Yeah, I’ll quickly acknowledge that. I was more meaning to point out that protecting people from needing to think about their lives whatsoever might not be a good idea if one were obsessed with an evolutionary point of view.
Rather than say that that is the only reason to want freedom.
re: #265 by Zimriel
human life == destroying the planet and harming other creatures that have just as much right to live as us.
re: #266 by buzzsawmonkey
Right, but in the same way the Cash for Clunkers requirement that the trade-ins be immediately destroyed is similar to this draconian bill in that it is taking useful goods out of the economy for reasons related to hysteria.
re: #269 by Nikis Knight
True.
Church officials: 15,000 Bibles seized in Malaysia
Interesting no?
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/world/AP/story/1306265.html
re: #268 by Rancher
But if I were a secular humanist I would never say that another species has as much right to live as I do. I would support human life as far and as long as it may be sustained.
Both my arguments (maybe more explicitly Rand’s) were pro-human. (Rand’s problem is she doesn’t really know WHY she is pro-human. I find her writing to be cold.)
The hardcore environmentalists you mention are advocating human self-genocide. I don’t much like the idea of saying X is evil, Y is evil etc but… the E word really fits for the environmentalists. Again a true secular humanist would never ally himself with such an enemy.
When you see an allegedly “secular humanist” group in coalition with a pro-death group, then you know Something Else Is At Work. I find a lot of “secular humanists” to be phonies, and not humanist at all…
re: #271 by WrathofG-d
What’s strange here is that this is the translation that the Middle Eastern Churches demand of their Bibles, ever since they moved away from Aramaic.
I somewhat agree with the Malaysians in that “Allah” is too Qur’anic for use as the name for God. I’d prefer al-Ilah to stand in for the Hebrew El. (And al-Rabb for Lord / Adonai / the four letters.)
That said, it’s obvious that Something Else Is At Work in the Malays’ anti-Bible drive. I seriously doubt they’ve sponsored a conference considering exactly what word they should use in Malay Bibles.
re: #273 by Zimriel
I did not mean to equate leftist environmentalists to secular humanists, I was just giving their rebuttal of the human==good argument. Your argument is extremely sound.
re: #274 by Zimriel
I found it interesting that Muslims are controlling what Christians use in their Bibles, that there is fear that using Allah would cause violence, and that the Muslims admit that Allah is not the same as the Christian G-d.
When non-Muslims make this claim they are called Islamophobic.
/cue Keith Ellison & CAIR
I missed a spotted tornado inside the loop in Shreveport earlier while I was working out.
But more tornadic cells training that way. Arklatex is in for an exciting evening.
Closer to home:
SEVERE WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE HOUSTON/GALVESTON TX
453 PM CDT THU OCT 29 2009
TXC339-292215-
/O.CON.KHGX.TO.W.0042.000000T0000Z-091029T2215Z/
MONTGOMERY TX-
453 PM CDT THU OCT 29 2009
…A TORNADO WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL 515 PM CDT FOR
MONTGOMERY COUNTY…
AT 448 PM CDT…NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED A TORNADO. THIS TORNADO WAS LOCATED NEAR LAKE CONROE DAM…OR 10 MILES WEST OF CONROE…AND MOVING NORTHEAST AT 40 MPH. THE TORNADO IS EXPECTED TO MOVE ACROSS THE SOUTHERN PORTIONS OF LAKE CONROE.
* LOCATIONS IN THE THE TORNADO WARNING INCLUDE BUT ARE NOT LIMITED TO WILLIS…PANORAMA VILLAGE AND MONTGOMERY
re: #275 by Rancher
re: #267 by Nikis Knight
To both: I didn’t mean to sound snippy. My social skills suck.
Sorry for writing very long lectures if they made you feel on the defensive. I was testing out these essays on a little drive before I tossed them onto my own blog. Thanks for the compliment on my argument, as well.
My Dad was a single parent of 3 for a while, then he met my step mother. Discipline was quick and harsh in our house. Spankings till about 6-7, then a belt till about 12, then grounding after that. Then when I was about 10 we adopted my step mothers niece. She was 4 and from Hondurous. She was spoiled rotten from day one, always getting things her way, was always spoiled.
Well it was the 70’s and all 4 of us experimented with drugs a bit. Only my step sister seemed to like them just a bit too much. She became a crackhead, then a tweeker on Meth,then prison, then back to meth and died this year of a meth overdose, she was 41 homeless, alone way out in the desert living in a tent. I got the call from the Los angeles coroners office. I guess she had my number with her at the time. WE all tried to help her, rehab 3 times, let her live with myself and my family, but she was always on meth, so I had to kick her out. Too bad, she was a nice person when she wasn’t on drugs.
I often wonder if she had been traeted the same as the rest of us if she would have turned out different. I can’t help but wonder if the coddling and spoiling her at a young age into her teens didn’t ruin her for life.
So I say spankings are a good thing, beatings are a bad thing, and slapping or punching faces is also a bad thing, although possibly needed at times. I know I had a big mouth as a teen. Dad shut me up with a quickness on more than one occasion.
My 2 natural sisters are fine, well adjusted adults, got spanked, the one who didn’t get spanked is dead.
I learned at 15 I could take a punch from a full grown man. It gave me confidence later in life, especially in dealing with assholes in the Army. I was not afraid to fight for what i belived in, and took many punches but was never knocked out.
Ed the weatherman is back! The world is all right!
re: #274 by Zimriel
I am personally very critical of the idea that Allah should be used as a generic for God. It’s like saying we should call Obama the King because that is the word for head of state in English. Well, maybe, but it’s got very different connotations, enough that a new word is needed for president.
Likewise, the God of the Bible is quite different from Allah, and Allah came from more sources than the bible–it was originally the name of the Arabic mood god.
But I wouldn’t argue with middle eastern Christians about it, who may see things different from me and are likely more knowledgeable about it. Of course, the example in question is a form of the muslims exerting dominance and attempted to curtail Christian evangelism.
I think that using God in the bible instead of allah is a good thing and I can see God’s hand in this. By allowing this to happen, the true and living God of the bible will not be confused with the fake, satanic, pagan moon god allah of the koran.