Good morning Blogmocracy Netizens. I hope everyone slept well and will have a successful day!
Scientist are claiming a very disturbing breakthrough. Humans can now be created without a mother or a father by cloning. This is the dream of many Progressives throughout the last century. The Progressives have dreamed of creating superior and perfect beings. Thanks to this disturbing breakthrough it could now be a reality.
Human eggs and sperm have been grown in the laboratory in research which could change the face of parenthood.
It paves the way for a cure for infertility and could help those left sterile by cancer treatment to have children who are biologically their own.
But it raises a number of moral and ethical concerns. These include the possibility of children being born through entirely artificial means, and men and women being sidelined from the process of making babies.
Read the rest.
This is a sinister development that can have dangerous implications. Whether it was Nazi’s Master Race or the Soviet’s New Man, the Left always favored the creation of enlightenment superior beings. If this cloning experiment is true and works out, the Totalitarian Progressives will use this to create humans who will obey their commands. Eugenics was what opened the door to this Progressive concept of superior humans. Now with this breakthrough, their dream is reality.
I am not anti-science. In fact, I love technological breakthroughs and advancements for humans. My beef is when science plays the role of God. The creation of artificial beings is where I draw the line. This is a dangerous development that must be opposed.
There is a Sci-Fi series, Battlestar Galactica, that shows what happens when humans play God. Here is a clip from Caprica to show the creations of the Cylons.
The Progressives view themselves as superior humans. Cloning will give them the ability to live out their dream. The question is, will the clones obey their masters?
First!
Yeah I read this yesterday. Well now pedophiles like Polanski can create little girls for his future enjoyment? Brave new world?
Designer babies. How quaint.
Gee, that isn’t the eye color we were expecting.
re: #1 by Rightside
Third, errr second First… How about some coffee???
re: #2 by Nevergiveup
Oh, didn’t you hear? She was just a young hooker
I watched my sabres beat the devils last night.
And Rollins picks the Phils in 5.
re: #4 by doriangrey
I got your pot right here dorian.
Science plays God all the time.
Consider it a blessing.
re: #6 by Rightside
Dont be skimpin on me this time, you know I dont wake up unitl I get my full 128 fluid oz’s… lol…lol…lol…
re: #8 by doriangrey
Don’t forget, we make coffee for 5,000 at a time. Olympic sized swimming pool urns.
Too bad it’s brewed at 211℉
re: #7 by Pablo Honey
Sorry, I didnt consider Doctor Mengele’s ground breaking work on hypothermia a blessing and I dont consider any work using embryonic stem cells a blessing either.
I am not endorseing this at all, but if they’re going to do it , I would like a Morgan Fairchild clone at about age 30. Yeah that’s it, that’s the ticket.
re: #9 by Rightside
Yes you do… then you dole it out in measly little 8 oz thimbles… lol…lol…lol…
(Too bad it’s brewed at 211℉)
Heh heh heh, that’s what god invented ice cold milk for…
re: #11 by RIX
Heh heh he… Your age is showing….
re: #11 by RIX
Adrienne Barbeau for $1000 Alex
re: #12 by doriangrey
Heh, you haven’t seen my
barrelmug!Sorry, I didnt consider Doctor Mengele’s ground breaking work on hypothermia a blessing and I dont consider any work using embryonic stem cells a blessing either.
re: #10 by doriangrey
What is your opinion of smallpox and polio eradication?
Offended that science “played God” in those instances?
Chuckie Poo will declare this as creationism and dismiss it as scientific hoopla.
re: #11 by RIX
I’ll take a Janine Turner, circa season 2 of Northern Exposure.
Rightside on 29 October, 2009 at 5:26 am reply re: #11 by RIX
Adrienne Barbeau for $1000 Alex
We have a winner! Would you like to take your Adrienne with you or have her delivered?
18. Centaur on 29 October, 2009 at 5:32 am reply re: #11 by RIX
I’ll take a Janine Turner, circa season 2 of Northern Exposure.
Another winnner! You may pick up your prize backstage.
Why did Emperor Palpatine think it was wise to clone a soldier that apparently has no skill with aiming a laser and is able to be defeated by a bunch of privitive teddy bears.
re: #16 by Pablo Honey
Obviously, the wild card, X factor or whatever, is the human motivation behind it. “It” being such scientific breakthroughs–and human cloning opens up a whole lot of nasty scenarios, given human nature.
re: #20 by RIX
Yes! Thank you.
I would agree with that.
re: #22 by Centaur
You nailed it! Expect to see some people defend this.
re: #16 by Pablo Honey
Hmmm, I must confess that I was totally unaware that the researchers developing vaccinations for smallpox and polio killed human beings in their search for ways to end the scourges of smallpox and polio.
Pull your head out of your ass if you can, their is a profound difference between research that seeks to end human suffering and murdering human beings.
Playing god is deciding who gets to live and who dies, saving lives should never ever involve killing one person so another can feel better about themselves.
Science that seeks to end human suffering isnt playing god, it’s human compassion at its very finest.
re: #19 by RIX
I’ll gladly take her with me!
re: #23 by Centaur
This is taxed as regular income.
re: #27 by Rightside
Your prizeis now ready. Morgan Fairchild is reserved for the host. Yeah baby!
The dramatic image of Obama on the tarmac was a portrait not witnessed in years. Former President George W. Bush spent lots of time with grieving military families but never went to Dover to greet the remains coming off the cargo plane. Obama did so with the weight of knowing he may soon send more troops off to war.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/28/obama-honoring-return-fallen-soldiers-dover/
Bullshit. He did this purely for cheap publicity. Something President Bush never did on the backs of our fallen Heroes. I hate this punk more every day.
Bullshit. He did this purely for cheap publicity. Something President Bush never did on the backs of our fallen Heroes. I hate this punk more every day.
Obama is a two bit hustler with no class.
Honor these heroes, but don’[t make a spectacle out of it.
Michelle had to be on the mound at Yankee Stadium last night while a soldier threw out the first pitch.
These people our constantly in our faces.
Cylon….by your command, sounds like the dorks over at 1.0
re: #28 by RIX
In this case, a tax I’ll gladly pay.
re: #30 by Nevergiveup
Heh heh heh, what’s not to hate about him? Chairman Oba-Mao
re: #33 by Centaur
Yup, & I don’t care if Morgan Fairchild puts me in a higher tax bracket. I’m goin for it.
re: #31 by RIX
ROTFLMAO…. They had to have a soldier throw out the first pitch so the world wouldn’t see a woman throw better than Obama…
re: #29 by RIX
Adrienne Barbeau (and Morgan Fairchild) are both pulchritudinous
re: #36 by doriangrey
I hate to point this out but it was a one armed soldier.
mmmmmmmmmm
re: #36 by doriangrey
Bullshit. He did this purely for cheap publicity. Something President Bush never did on the backs of our fallen Heroes. I hate this punk more every day.
Yeah, ya just know that Michelle could bring some heat. Barry? Not so much.
re: #36 by doriangrey
Hey Your guest post on Mao is scheduled to be up in an hour and a half. I added some links to it for the historical background.
re: #40 by RIX
ROTFLMAO, yea, when Barry threw his first pitch out it landed a full ten feet short of the plate, to say he threw like a girl would be insulting to the many fine girls/women playing Softball and Baseball…
re: #14 by Rightside
CANNONBALL RUN
“Well, hello there, Hot Pants! Now, you wouldn’t happen to have a driver’s license tucked down in there, would you?”
re: #41 by Rodan
Very cool, thank you… Time for me to head off to work, but I’ll try to check it at 9:00am (PST) when I go on break…
younger wife for marital bliss
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/8331136.stm
I don’t think the groom will last long
Off to work too. Great day 2.0.
Where do I pick up my Louise Brooks?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDKlobd87NA
re: #30 by Nevergiveup
You’re absolutely right, and that fake salute, wow.
Someone tell asshole that asshole that saluting is for service personnel and veterans, not civies.
Yeah I know he’s the CiC, but give me a break, hand over heart would be more appropriate.
re: #43 by Beltfed
Oh my. Are you trying to turn this into a boob thread?
All your babies are belong to us
When ethics are negotiable proportionately to potential benefit, a soul is being destroyed.
This is a frontier we’re not prepared to explore.
Don’t worry, the cities are going to burn in time for us to learn the humility we need.
No Cylons are in the Plan.
re: #49 by Rightside
Boob thread? Nah, celebrity clone thread.
re: #53 by BuddyG
Photobucket blocked here for me. Thanks though.
re: #49 by Rightside
Never, car racing.
re: #51 by Bumr50
I am a pro-Science guy, but this is a line I don’t cross. This is the completion of the Progressive dreams of the Perfect Man.
re: #52 by Scott Madsen
Nothing like a healthy dose of optimism to cheer me up!;-)
Scrambled & Over Easy
enlightenment superior beings – pretty much every nasty motherfucker I’ve known has been a lefty and thought of themselves as enlightenment superior beings.
What I wonder is why do this when the global population is almost 7 billion and growing? Will these beings be used as military? Will they be considered human with rights or used as slaves and military? Its too creepy and hopefully these experiments won’t succeed. What will be interesting is if you can tell whether they have a soul or not.
Just about everyone I know who has been adopted has a sort of struggle that is of a different kind, makes me also wonder what sort of emotional issues they will have by not having any parents at all. Creepy.
re: #50 by BuddyG
All your babies are belong to us
Shouldn’t that be “All your Boobies belong to us”???
re: #59 by teacake
This is what they have wanted to do for a century.
re: #60 by SciFiGuy
Boobies ? ! ? NO
You’re missing the whole point of this thread !
re: #30 by Nevergiveup
Oh I cannot believe he did this.
And he allowed photo’s to be taken of himself?
Let me tell you something you prick of a poseur.
How DARE you us the death of one of our servicemen as a PHOTO OP!
How DARE YOU?!?
You are not fit for them to wipe the mud of their boots upon you! You dither, safely in your office, while they are in mortal danger because you are too much of a pussy to make a fucking decision!
You haven’t earned the right to salute them, you don’t DESERVE to be in their presence, How DARE you use their coffins for a photo op?!?!
I got skin in this game and you ain’t even a player………
re: #30 by Nevergiveup
Zero standing there, saluting and trying to look deeply moved is a disgusting sight.
I bet he uses this photo op. to justify some cowardly act like not sending troops because of his ‘concern’ or cutting and running altogether.
He is like a spoiled little kid. . . .
“Hey, look at me, look at me,” everywhere he goes.
Good Morning All.
re: #63 by typicalwhitey
Believe it. His pathological narcissism is out of control.
The dumb fck has no shame. He’s bought the hype that he “is like a god.” It will get worse.
It is sickening that he is using this somber and tragic moment for what he thinks will benefit him personally. Just look at his face. It is so obvious he is phony poser. He is despicable.
re: #63 by typicalwhitey
Right now, the hippie control freak is scouring google images for a picture of W doing the same thing.
Let me save you the trouble charlie, your hero is a zero, a worthless POS who cannot hold their damn jockstraps.
Lucky for you, there are courageous men and women who volunteered to serve their country, and wear the uniform of our armed forces. Some people do not have the courage or testicular fortitude to defend the greatest nation on the planet.
You can thank us anytime now, hippie.
I’ll take a Dana Delaney with a younger Catherine Zeta-Jones on the side… to-go…
Hey The economy is booming, we grew at 3.5% ! Let the good times roll!!!!!!!!!!
/
Did anyone need more proof that Hollywood sucks?
http://jumpinginpools.blogspot.com/2009/10/need-more-proof-hollywood-is-scum-of.html
re: #63 by typicalwhitey
Yup. It’s disgusting.
re: #26 by doriangrey
If you can find where I wrote I was ok with science murdering millions of people be my quest.
The topic was whether or not science should play God, I argue it already does with great benefits for mankind.
From Gateway Pundit:
Sick. Skincare Company Now Using Aborted Fetal Tissue in Anti-Aging Cream
I am sure it will be the new thing for the ethical Hollywood types. They will use this face cream right before they go to a anti-Palin protest, crying about how cruel Moose stew is.
http://gatewaypundit.firstthings.com/2009/10/company-uses-aborted-fetal-tissue-in-anti-aging-cream/
Oh and his salute sucks also
re: #42 by doriangrey
ROTFLMAO, yea, when Barry threw his first pitch out it landed a full ten feet short of the plate, to say he threw like a girl would be insulting to the many fine girls/women playing Softball and Baseball…
True dat. My coed daughter can throw better than the Dear Leader & she fears breaking a nail.
re: #31 by RIX
He did it the same way mafia used to do it. They attended the funerals of ones they iced.It’s contempt that will be recognized by Obama’s cheerleaders.
I’ll take Claudia Schiffer, the younger version. Tiffani Amber Thiessen, too.
That photo makes me sick.
I don’t mind that he went to “honor the dead”.
I mind the picture taking.
And the arrogant smug look on his face.
If it were me, there would be tears in my eyes.
Morning all, had to jump in on this clone stuff. It’s been treated differently in many Sci-Fi stories. I think on of the best modern shows that did this had to have been “Space: Above and Beyond”. Two of the main characters were clones.
Other stories that have dealt with clones is the reboot of Superman in the mid 80’s, RAH in “Time Enough For Love”, and there are numerous other stories as well. Interestingly enough in the RAH novel, clones were made of people to be used as parts for the person needing them. Spare limbs, organs, you name it. Fresh and young and no worries about transplant rejections.
Oh yeah, Good morning to everyone. Breakfast is on the counter.
re: #76 by Grimcargo
Seriously, I think that Obama is too wraped up in himself to have much empathy for others even fallen soldiers.
re: #78 by typicalwhitey
Yup. President Bush went to Walter Read and Bethsesda Naval all the time and often met with the families of the fallen, but never published the pictures. He had some class and dignity
re: #74 by tqcincinnatus
on duty
Krauthammer gives zero both barrels and nails it!
Good is bad, bad is good.
Funny things happen when you actually do the math in reference to white house bullshit.
Ed from hotair mentions the daycare figure… Is anyone aware of a daycare who has 129 employees? daycarez R us?
Peter F Hamiltons excellent Commonwealth series has some cloning in it as well.
Though they only use clones when their original body dies…people are basically immortal in the series (minds can be downloaded, saved and loaded in new clone).
re: #72 by bar
I read that! That is Eugenics based science. I might post on it later.
re: #78 by typicalwhitey
And the arrogant smug look on his face.
If it were me, there would be tears in my eyes
I recall on the anniversary of 9/11 when Candidate Obama & McCain visited ground zero.
He was arrogant then, swaggering to the site & then just tossing flowers insead of bending over like McCain & placing them respectfully.
Hell, he bowed to the Saudi King.
Drive by post.
If anyone sees goddess in their travels or has her email address, please ask her to add “L” to the prayer list. She has cancer and is the wife of a lawyer in my building. She has taken a turn for the worse over the last 24 hours and is being moved to hospice if she is well enough to be moved.
Thanks so much.
lopps
If euthanasia is inevitable, then start with Jimmy Carter.
If human cloning is inevitable, then start with Ronald Reagan.
re: #87 by RIX
Do you ever get the impression he is never where he really is.
He may be physically someplace but his mind has moved on to the next opportunity for self promotion.
He is such an insincere phony sob.
Good Morning Troop !
To see this “person” use the bodies of Heros for a photo op turns my stomach.
re: #90 by chickadee
Yeah, I agree with that, Obama seems totally self-absorbed.
When he dies his gravestone should read, “It really was all about me.”
OT – Dan Riehl Explains Why the NRCC Bungled NY-23 (with my own commentary after)
The Federal Aviation Administration violated its own rules by taking more than 40 minutes to alert the military after losing communication with a Northwest Airlines flight last week, according to officials familiar with internal reviews under way at several federal agencies.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,570188,00.html?test=latestnews
It’s Pre-9/11 all over again.
re: #89 by BuddyG
Amen to that.
However… Notice how lately there have been no news about cloned animals, after the hype wore off? Maybe it is because the experiment did not work as well as planned, nor did it bring any practical use… It was kind of a dead-end exercise, and it is no longer hyped, and is probably abandoned by now. Same will most likely happen with this.
16:10 IAEA chief: We`re consulting with Iran, hope for deal soon (Reuters
I hope Micheal gets us a good deal tonight?
re: #95 by PrincessNatasha
Speaking of which, whatever happened to Dolly the cloned sheep ?
re: #91 by Celer Silens Mortalis
I despise the son of a bitch. He is a shallow, opportunistic sociopath who holds nothing sacred except his own despicable worthless ass. I wish we did not have to wait till 2012 to tell this obamination: “You’re fired!”
Folks, a huge fraction of the babies that come into the world are NOT planned, and are born of single mothers. So far, it looks like any babies formed in this new manner will not be accidents. There may indeed be issues, but overall, a way to provide children to parents who really want them (but who may have fertility issues that would otherwise prevent them from conceiving naturally) may turn out to be a good thing.
re: #97 by BuddyG
My point, exactly. I believe she died.
re: #100 by PrincessNatasha
HelloGoodbye Dollyre: #72 by bar
Bar, this is right from their website!
http://www.neocutis.com/modules.php?modid=2
Besides, making babies the old-fashioned way is much more fun!!
O.T
Breaking news.
Shooting at Synagogue in North Hollywood Ca, reported 2 people have been shot.
http://www.ktla.com/news/landing/ktla-tivid-livestream-b,0,1174195.tividlivestream
Clone Warrior fun
re: #99 by My 2 Cents
What happened to plain old shagging? ROTFLMAO
re: #102 by davehm
Sick stuff.
And it says a lot about what society as a whole thinks about human life, when sick stuff like this is used as advertising.
Ok, off to the salt mine.
I don’t think Zero gets the gist of what it means to be an American. He is essentially a foreigner in his thinking. Too much Communist, Muslim, and 3rd World influence.
Try as he may to appear like a regular American guy who likes sports, beer, hamburgers etc. he always comes off looking like a dork with a cob up his butt.
Holy cow! is that paint non-toxic?
See ya later
ALERT! Nancy Pelosi is on TV right now lying her head off — the Dems in the House have passed their bill, which, she says will protect middle class health care (so long as the middle class settles exclusively for socialized medicine.)
Whoops – she finally got off camera – now there is another congressional gasbag fouling the air.
re: #99 by My 2 Cents
My two cents back to you (complicated issue):
Deciding what is an “accident” and what is not, IS playing at being a God. IMHO
I wonder things like… if people, male or female not being able to have children MIGHT just be part of God’s plan. (MAYBE the plan is something entirely different. MAYBE the plan is you have to do something different with your life. MAYBE children need you without you giving birth to them….so I wonder on infinity # of possibilities.)
Reminds me of that commercial for a “pill” for women that asks: Who says you have to get your period once a month?
Oh Morning Everybody!
re: #106 by PrincessNatasha
I prefer that!!!!!!!!!!!
re: #113 by Mrs.Robinson
That doesn’t exactly sound right. To clarify…
I wonder things like… if SOME people, male or female not being able to have children (in the population) MIGHT just be part of God’s plan.
Need more coffee!
Oh new thread up too…!
this is what embryonic stem cell research is all about. If they can clone and destroy an embryo to produce stem cells they have a theoretically perfect genetic match. The thing is, they don’t have to do the cloning. That is what they create with using your own adult stem cells. It has been my understanding that these are the areas where real progress has been being made anyway. Fetal stem cells has gone nowhere not because of a lack of funding, but because it is less promising. It just turns progressives’ cranks to create and destroy an embryo.
re: #113 by Mrs.Robinson
Maybe God’s plan is to have infertile couples have children through cloning technology.
I’m inclined to concur, here. Maybe it is in God’s Plan that one should not breed, but rather impact society in other ways.
re: #113 by Mrs.Robinson
OK! OK! I got it now… Leftards support this because the overwhelming majority of them are so ugly and impotent, they simply can’t do it the old-fashioned way.
re: #56 by Rodan
The genie never fits back in the bottle. Nuclear weapons technology is a good analogy.
The potential benefits are tremendous as are the potential for misuse.
If your reason for disapproval is that it’s ‘playing god’ then you only guarantee that those of ‘other gods’ or godless ones will reap the benefit or abuse the power of the new knowledge.
It’s not in human nature to ‘don’t go there’.
re: #95 by PrincessNatasha
I second that. This kind of stuff in the media is 99% hype. I’m not expecting this “breakthrough” to bear any fruit any time soon.
re: #119 by PrincessNatasha
Depends on how dark the room is, and how many foreign substances have passed through the blood-brain barrier.
At some point though, you start running into mechanical limitations.
re: #120 by Poteen
So you support the cloning of Humans? Seriously, think of what you support. It is evil and will be used by Progressives to fulfill their dream of a Master Race/New Man. Think about it long and hard.
re: #104 by bar
Being Jewish is still dangerous.
I did a remodel for an OC Rabbi a few years ago. He and his wife were the nicest people I ever worked for.
When I wanted decisions on kitchen fixtures I went to the Chabad preschool/daycare that the wife ran.
I entered through a bulletproof glass door.
At an ‘effin preschool!
I see a sort of scifi possibility here. What if they could steal some of your tissue surreptitiously and make a new you for various nefarious reasons? Who says you would be doing this of your own volition?
This is the same reason why robot technology should be banned as well..
Anyone ever see the Stepford wives or the terminator?
Slippery slope, slippery slope!
A genetic clone is simply a younger twin-brother or twin-sister. I don’t know what all the fuss is about.
re: #117 by Pablo Honey
Maybe so. If you don’t believe in God, you certainly couldn’t call it “Natural”either.
All of it is interesting to wonder about. Like I said: complicated.
I think single women, especially hollywood actresses purchasing children (whether it be adoption or my medical means) is rather interesting as well. (Funny how “regular” or “poor” single women up thread having babies is called “accident”)
All this sort of falls into the category of “Me Me Me” instant gratification type stuff.
re: #123 by Rodan
No. I prefer the old fashioned way like all normal people. If the hippies start cloning a doper army I’ll just have to buy more ammo.
The point is you can’t unknow things and you can’t outlaw knowledge.
You do the best you can. The possibilities for alleviating human suffering (i.e. diabetes,cancer,birth defects and so on) are staggering. It’s stupid to not want to know about how things work and make them work to human advantage.
And yes it does come with responsibility.
I,for one, am not afraid of Hollywood sci-fi writers OR hippie clone armies.
re: #108 by chickadee
That is because he is a dork with a cob up his butt. He is definately an odd duck. Consider that apparently Mishcelle is the only woman he has ever dated. Ever, even in high school. you know Oprah would have been falling out of her dress to run shows on Obama’s girlfriends. Puff pieces that would make him look like a god, but there’s nothing.
The most obvious solution and ethical answer to the “will they obey their masters” is, they have to have the same rights. Otherwise you’re drawing distinctions as to what “is and isn’t human”, then you’re treading back down that slippery slope.
Possibilities themselves are endless, as much as they are for ripe for abuse by people. My belief follows through on that with nanotech as well, and personally I’d love to see working nanotech in my lifetime.
“All of this has happened before…
and will happen again…
again…
again…
again…
again…
again…
again…
again….”
/BOOM!
re: #129 by Poteen
I have no problem with exploring human genetics. But I draw the line creating artificial life. It will be used for Evil, read history and you will see. This has been the Progressive’s dream of creating a Master race/New Man.
re: #133 by Rodan
I’ve read a lot of history. No Cylons there. If they want to make a new man, fine. But if the new man gets in this old mans way his history will be short. Thats the history I’ve read.
In addition to the moral and ethical dilemmas in creating parentless orphan children, think of the legal implication over custody and other unforeseen problems.
We don’t need human cloning for cripes sake!
re: #133 by Rodan
Well, ya got to admit, they got a lot of good movie scenes out of the cloning idea, like this one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxfrziN7jNo