Leader Of Islamic Group Killed In Raid…in Detroit

The leader of an Islamofascist terrorist cell in Detroit whose goal is to establish an Islamic state inside the United States was shot and killed when he fired at FBI agents during a raid this afternoon.  Unfortunately, an FBI police dog was also shot and killed (hat tip – garycooper),

The Detroit leader of a nationwide fundamentalist Islamic group was fatally shot during a series of FBI raids Wednesday afternoon.

The FBI arrested 10 people who have ties to the group called the Ummah, which translates to “the brotherhood.”

The group’s primary mission is to establish a separate sovereign Islamic state governed by Sunni law, according to FBI charging documents. Luqman Ameen Abdullah, 53, called his followers to an offensive jihad, rather than a defensive jihad.

During the raid, Abdullah, aka Christopher Thomas, fired his weapon, said the FBI in a release. An FBI police dog was shot during the gunfire.

The dog was transported via helicopter to an animal hospital in Madison Heights, but despite the rescue efforts, the dog died.

[snip]

The nationwide leader is believed to be Jamil Abdullah Al-Amin, formerly known as H. Rapp Brown. He is currently serving a life sentence in prison for the murder of two police officers in Georgia.

Abdullah Al-Amin preaches violence against law enforcement officials and has trained members of the Ummah inside of a mosque located on Joy Road how to use firearms, martial arts, sword fighting and other types of self defense in anticipation of government violence, according to the FBI.

Undercover agents in the organization have told the FBI that Abdullah used to discipline its members starting at an early age by beating them with sticks on their hands, knees and legs and once he beat a little boy so badly that the child was unable to walk for several days.

In October of 2008, a source the FBI called “credible” recorded statements by Abdullah at a mosque during prayer where he said that Muslims need to cut ties with Christians, Jews, and Kuffars, which the FBI said means all non-muslims.

“Obama is a Kafir. McCain is a Kafir, all the rest of them Kuffars, are Kuffars…. The worst Muslim is better than the best Kafir,” said FBI documents. 

It’s a shame about the FBI dog, but at least no humans were hurt.

The story notes that these guys are converts who took the plunge while in prison.  I don’t know about you, but this sort of shakes my boundless confidence in the peacefulness and tolerance of Islam. 

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  1. SciFiGuy
    1 | October 28, 2009 5:35 pm

    Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy!


  2. 2 | October 28, 2009 5:37 pm

    Surely the guy who was killed was misquided… For some odd reason, he thought that it was islam’s underlying objective to conquer the world for allah and make all peoples of all faiths submissive to muslims and subject to sharia law.


  3. Incognito
    3 | October 28, 2009 5:39 pm

    Muslim converts in prison are some of the worst….human beings. This news report supports it.


  4. Nevergiveup
    4 | October 28, 2009 5:39 pm

    I had a feeling when I heard this story that it was a “Black Muslim” convert. A prison convert to boot? Great system we have ha? So basically we subsidized this conversion. Really sorry about the dog.


  5. Incognito
    5 | October 28, 2009 5:41 pm

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H._Rap_Brown

    He was chairman of non violent student committee…

    and yet he died violently…even killed a dog!


  6. Incognito
    6 | October 28, 2009 5:45 pm

    He is perhaps most famous for his proclamation during that period that “violence is as American as cherry pie”, as well as once stating that “If America don’t come around, we’re gonna burn it down”.


  7. Nevergiveup
    7 | October 28, 2009 5:47 pm

    re: #6 by Incognito

    He was a piece of shit before he came a muslim and nothing has changed.


  8. Truck Monkey
    8 | October 28, 2009 5:49 pm

    re: #7 by Nevergiveup

    It is exactly these type pieces of shit that the Muslims are looking at converting in US jails.


  9. Nevergiveup
    9 | October 28, 2009 5:50 pm

    The truth is it wasn’t a fair trade: the dog for this cock-a-roach. I wish the dog was still with us.


  10. calcajun
    10 | October 28, 2009 5:51 pm

    Here’s hoping the dog barfed on him before he died, or made some form of contact. Don’t like the thought of this guy getting into the afterlife all clean like.

    Uh, can we start profiling now?


  11. Nevergiveup
    11 | October 28, 2009 5:51 pm

    re: #8 by Truck Monkey

    I wouldn’t let them organize in Jail PERIOD. Yeah I know civil rights and all that bullshit, but hey we’re at War if nobody noticed. And shit Utley hit a dinger. 1-0 Phillie.


  12. song_and_dance_man
    12 | October 28, 2009 6:00 pm

    Death to those who want death is an equitable thing.


  13. 13 | October 28, 2009 6:00 pm

    I feel nothing.


  14. Nevergiveup
    14 | October 28, 2009 6:01 pm

    re: #12 by song_and_dance_man

    It wasn’t equitable unfortunetly, we lost a dog


  15. bar
    15 | October 28, 2009 6:01 pm

    Just more misunderstanders of Islam, nothing to see here, move along folks.

    Besides are there not many more crazy right-wing Christian creationist kafir groups trying to instil a theocracy here in America?


  16. Nevergiveup
    16 | October 28, 2009 6:02 pm

    re: #15 by bar

    I’m sure they will be all over it at the hippie swamp. Oh wait it can’t be used to smear Republicans so maybe not. Never mind


  17. Nevergiveup
    17 | October 28, 2009 6:04 pm

    U.S. President Barack Obama has videotaped a message to be shown Saturday night at the annual memorial ceremony for Yitzhak Rabin in Rabin Square in Tel Aviv. The message will relate to the murdered prime minister’s legacy and the need to advance the peace process. It was prepared in response to a request from Rabin’s daughter, Dalia Rabin.

    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1124448.html

    Dalia Rabin is left winger ( Yeah Israel has them also ). Hey Dalia stick to Israeli Politics.


  18. 18 | October 28, 2009 6:05 pm

    I shouldn’t say I feel nothing. I feel grateful that the agents are safe and were able to neutralize Abdullah. And I am sad about the dog.


  19. JeremyR
    19 | October 28, 2009 6:06 pm

    Found a great deal on an appropriate hearse for his funeral.

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2000-RD-690S-Mack-Garbage-Truck-W-25yd-Loadmaster-body_W0QQitemZ200392576687QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCommercial_Trucks?hash=item2ea8540eaf

    A steal at $30,000.


  20. Nevergiveup
    20 | October 28, 2009 6:06 pm

    re: #18 by loppyd

    But just think what is happening in Prisons across this country every day? Makes me sick to think about it.


  21. song_and_dance_man
    21 | October 28, 2009 6:07 pm

    re: #14 by Nevergiveup

    Sorry for your loss, in truth, but I was commenting on the Entry.


  22. Nevergiveup
    22 | October 28, 2009 6:07 pm

    re: #21 by song_and_dance_man

    Ha?


  23. Nevergiveup
    23 | October 28, 2009 6:08 pm

    re: #21 by song_and_dance_man

    Oh OK– forget that last post


  24. 24 | October 28, 2009 6:08 pm

    re: #20 by Nevergiveup

    It is very troubling. They will hide behind religious freedom while plotting to kill Americans and we are footing the bill all the while.


  25. bar
    25 | October 28, 2009 6:09 pm

    re: #16 by Nevergiveup

    The American right-wing Taliban for Jesus is not going to like that. Just ask Chris my leg tingles when Obama talks Matthews.


  26. song_and_dance_man
    26 | October 28, 2009 6:10 pm

    re: #22 by Nevergiveup

    lol I should have read all the comments. Call me on the time out room extension.


  27. 27 | October 28, 2009 6:10 pm

    I can’t keep my eyes open.

    Have a good night, all…


  28. Nevergiveup
    28 | October 28, 2009 6:12 pm

    re: #26 by song_and_dance_man

    Trying to watch the game, blog, and talk to my family can get confusing at times.


  29. Nevergiveup
    29 | October 28, 2009 6:12 pm

    re: #27 by loppyd

    Good Night


  30. snork
    30 | October 28, 2009 6:12 pm

    re: #27 by loppyd

    Nite lop.


  31. wolfie
    31 | October 28, 2009 6:14 pm

    re: #11 by Nevergiveup

    Convicted felons don’t (and shouldn’t) have the whole panoply of civil rights. They shouldn’t be allowed to preach and teach ANY ideology, whether ’secular’ or religious, that promotes or excuses violence of any kind. If they want to become Sufi or non-Salafist Muslims, okay. But forget Wahabbism, NOI, Nazism, Leninism, white or black supremacism. (Yeah, I wouldn’t let Rev. Wright preach in prison.)

    If you can’t do it in schools, why can you do it in prisons?


  32. bar
    32 | October 28, 2009 6:14 pm

    re: #24 by loppyd

    Pretty stupid.

    The guy kills cops, then we give him a warm bed and 3 squares a day.

    The death penalty would have cured this problem.


  33. Nevergiveup
    33 | October 28, 2009 6:16 pm

    re: #31 by wolfie

    Well said


  34. Nevergiveup
    34 | October 28, 2009 6:16 pm

    re: #32 by bar

    And ours


  35. orangecrush
    35 | October 28, 2009 6:17 pm

    The pakastasi crowds roar Death to Islam…..

    States should disallow imans in prison. They serve no useful purpose.


  36. Nevergiveup
    36 | October 28, 2009 6:17 pm

    A U.S. destroyer accidentally fired three machine gun rounds at a Polish city while it lay at anchor Wednesday, but caused no injuries and no damage, a Pentagon official said.

    http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/navy_ramage_shooting_102809w/

    Is this a Polish joke?


  37. Speranza
    37 | October 28, 2009 6:18 pm

    Good. No loss to humanity.


  38. Rubber Soul
    38 | October 28, 2009 6:19 pm

    This makes me real sad

    Always a shame to lose a K9 in the line of duty


  39. chickadee
    39 | October 28, 2009 6:21 pm

    I’m glad the FBI killed this jihadi when he fired on them.
    He’s roasting in hell now. Just what he deserves.


  40. IslandLibertarian
    40 | October 28, 2009 6:22 pm

    Rules to live by:

    Never stop on an on-ramp.

    Never cheat on your wife.

    NEVER shoot it out with the FBI!


  41. buzzsawmonkey
    41 | October 28, 2009 6:23 pm

    Is this what is meant when someone is referred to as human detroitus?


  42. orangecrush
    42 | October 28, 2009 6:24 pm

    re: #36 by Nevergiveup
    lol
    I could see myself doing this accidentally if the CO ordered me to clean the gun and I choose the loaded one by mistake. I would have been shocka….


  43. wolfie
    43 | October 28, 2009 6:29 pm

    re: #38 by Rubber Soul

    Very sad.

    A police-dog trainer lives down the road from us & has four K-9 ‘officers’ living with him. Those dogs are strong, loyal, and courageous critters.

    One of them won medal a for valor. Saved an human officer’s life a few years ago. He has his picture and the medal framed together and hung on the wall at the police station.

    Thinking about that Detroit dog, I’m getting misty-eyed.


  44. calcajun
    44 | October 28, 2009 6:30 pm

    re: #32 by bar

    He should have resisted arrest a bit more. Then there would not be a problem.


  45. calcajun
    45 | October 28, 2009 6:31 pm

    re: #41 by buzzsawmonkey

    He’s dead, so it would be detroitus interrputus.


  46. wolfie
    46 | October 28, 2009 6:31 pm

    re: #41 by buzzsawmonkey

    Yes it is!


  47. spidly
    47 | October 28, 2009 6:34 pm

    Taliban target [UN] staff in deadly bombing that claims 11, including American

    Obviously we need to draw down troop levels in the city and rely on drones there too.

    ……

    Just had to tell the RNCC guy no on donations until the leadership pulls there heads out. Poor guy was frustrated and said “I know Rubio and Hoffman are the guys but….”


  48. spidly
    48 | October 28, 2009 6:34 pm

    their


  49. Flyovercountry
    49 | October 28, 2009 6:38 pm

    re: #13 by loppyd

    I feel nothing.

    I feel bad for the dog.


  50. chickadee
    50 | October 28, 2009 6:41 pm

    Prayers for the doggie.


  51. song_and_dance_man
    51 | October 28, 2009 6:42 pm

    re: #28 by Nevergiveup

    My attention is always diffused. If it’s not cooking it’s blogging of thinking about working on music. Now the latter is a thing I must jump on and right quick, but the former seems to get in the way.


  52. Ed Mahmoud
    52 | October 28, 2009 6:43 pm

    18 Charles
    Wed, Oct 28, 2009 10:27:49am replyquote 4downupreport

    For some reason, I haven’t been able to find any statements by Hoffman on creationism or “intelligent design.” But from the people who’ve endorsed him, I’d be surprised if he isn’t a creationist as well

    No,it isn’t Iowahawk pretending to be Chuckles.


  53. Eliana
    53 | October 28, 2009 6:46 pm

    Very sad to hear about the dog. Working dogs are really wonderful.

    There are bomb-sniffing dogs train train in Israel for use in California (at the LAX Airport, among other places). They are fantastic dogs.

    These dogs are trained with Hebrew commands so when their new trainers get them in LA, they have to keep using the same Hebrew commands since dogs aren’t bi-lingual.

    I would imagine that terrorists get a spike in their heart rates when uniformed officers in LA come out shouting orders in Hebrew to bomb-sniffing dogs.

    “The ISRAELIS have found us here???”


  54. Eliana
    54 | October 28, 2009 6:47 pm

    There are bomb-sniffing dogs that train in Israel for use in California (at the LAX Airport, among other places). They are fantastic dogs…


  55. Speranza
    55 | October 28, 2009 6:47 pm

    Utley another homerun. Oh baby!


  56. song_and_dance_man
    56 | October 28, 2009 6:49 pm

    re: #52 by Ed Mahmoud

    The sophomoric analytical ability of Cj is like an evolving caveman looking for a hammer without a stone.


  57. Gypsy
    57 | October 28, 2009 6:49 pm

    That poor dog. I hope he gets a hero’s funeral.


  58. Speranza
    58 | October 28, 2009 6:50 pm

    re: #56 by song_and_dance_man

    You are right. He really is juvenile, sophomoric, and pedantic.


  59. Incognito
    59 | October 28, 2009 6:51 pm

    Note that Federal courts are after Christian ministry Prison Fellowship under First Amendment http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,198060,00.html
    DES MOINES, Iowa — A judge has ruled that a Bible-based prison program violates the First Amendment’s freedom of religion clause by using state funds to promote Christianity to inmates.

    Prison Fellowship Ministries, which was sued in 2003 by an advocacy group, was ordered Friday to cease its program at the Newton Correctional Facility and repay the state $1.53 million.

    That was back in 2006…


  60. Incognito
    60 | October 28, 2009 6:52 pm

    And Christian Prison Fellowship has not nurtured terrorists like the Islamic missionaries have in prisons…


  61. Flyovercountry
    61 | October 28, 2009 6:53 pm

    re: #52 by Ed Mahmoud

    18 Charles
    Wed, Oct 28, 2009 10:27:49am replyquote 4downupreport

    For some reason, I haven’t been able to find any statements by Hoffman on creationism or “intelligent design.” But from the people who’ve endorsed him, I’d be surprised if he isn’t a creationist as well

    No,it isn’t Iowahawk pretending to be Chuckles.

    This is the kind of nonsense that his ass kissing psychophants are breaking their necks to pucker up and brown their collective noses for. He must be a creationist because of who likes his other positions. There was a time when Charlie would have made serious fun of a person positing this weak assed argument.


  62. wolfie
    62 | October 28, 2009 6:53 pm

    re: #55 by Speranza

    This game is utley wonderful…so far.
    (But we can’t say that while Nevergiveup is around. He has dental instruments…. and he knows how to use them.)


  63. chickadee
    63 | October 28, 2009 6:54 pm

    re: #52 by Ed Mahmoud

    CJ needs to just stfu. No one gives a shit what he was able to find or not find about Hoffman regarding anything.
    Damn, CJ is a nuisance and an imbecile.


  64. Moe Katz
    64 | October 28, 2009 6:55 pm

    ULULULULULULUL ULULULULULULUL ULULULULULULUL ULULULULULULUL ULULULULULULUL ULULULULULULUL ULULULULULULUL …


  65. wolfie
    65 | October 28, 2009 6:56 pm

    Why yes, there IS a full moon.


  66. Flyovercountry
    66 | October 28, 2009 6:57 pm

    re: #64 by Moe Katz

    ?


  67. Speranza
    67 | October 28, 2009 6:57 pm

    re: #61 by Flyovercountry

    I do not think that the moron at LGF does not realize that nobody except him and his losers talk about “creationism” and “intelligent design”.


  68. snork
    68 | October 28, 2009 6:58 pm

    re: #56 by song_and_dance_man

    I think he both stoned and hammered.


  69. Moe Katz
    69 | October 28, 2009 6:58 pm

    OT:

    Wolfie, have you ever read Freud’s Civilization and Its Discontents? Your comment last night on managing male sexuality contained similar thoughts. For Freud, it’s a matter of steering between savagery (no offense to the blogowner) and neurosis.


  70. Moe Katz
    70 | October 28, 2009 6:59 pm

    re: #66 by Flyovercountry

    This is a 1.0 tradition from the good old days. We ironically ululate when a jihadist makes an untimely (for him) exit.


  71. Gypsy
    71 | October 28, 2009 6:59 pm

    re: #52 by Ed Mahmoud

    He did the same thing to Sarah Palin — labeled her an anti-evolution “creationist”. Which was wrong — as she pointed out once, her father is a science teacher, and she believes in evolution and does not believe the earth was created 6,000 years ago. Charles has modified the lefty curse mantra racist/sexist/homophobe to creationist/racist/anti-Darwinist.


  72. Speranza
    72 | October 28, 2009 7:00 pm

    re: #70 by Moe Katz

    “This is a 1.0 tradition from the good old days. We ironically ululate when a jihadist makes an untimely (for him) exit.”

    and award him posthumously the Darwin Akbar Award.


  73. Ed Mahmoud
    73 | October 28, 2009 7:01 pm

    Here is a toast to Mr. Abdullah and his virgins.

    /jk


  74. Moe Katz
    74 | October 28, 2009 7:01 pm

    re: #72 by Speranza

    Yes, thanks for reminding me of that!


  75. song_and_dance_man
    75 | October 28, 2009 7:01 pm

    re: #58 by Speranza

    Childlike comes to mind with a hint of doltishness.

    I had more to say and deleted it.

    Charles, I implore you to come here and face us. We will be more welcoming of you than us over there. And I promise I will be nice and not a freak.


  76. Flyovercountry
    76 | October 28, 2009 7:01 pm

    re: #70 by Moe Katz

    Thanks, Kind of an assumed room temperature notice.


  77. wolfie
    77 | October 28, 2009 7:02 pm

    re: #69 by Moe Katz

    Yes, I did…back in undergraduate school. (Longer ago than I care to admit!)

    Now that you mention it, I think I might re-read it.


  78. snork
    78 | October 28, 2009 7:02 pm

    re: #67 by Speranza

    There are a few others. I don’t get the obsession.


  79. Flyovercountry
    79 | October 28, 2009 7:03 pm

    re: #73 by Ed Mahmoud

    72 virgin camels.


  80. Gypsy
    80 | October 28, 2009 7:03 pm

    re: #75 by song_and_dance_man

    Give me fair warning if it happens — and I will gypsy on over to some other site and lay low until it’s all over with.


  81. Moe Katz
    81 | October 28, 2009 7:03 pm

    re: #77 by wolfie

    Rereading something with the fullness of intellectual and personal maturity can be rewarding :)


  82. snork
    82 | October 28, 2009 7:04 pm

    re: #72 by Speranza

    I r o n y ? What’s that?


  83. snork
    83 | October 28, 2009 7:05 pm

    re: #81 by Moe Katz

    Yeah. And keep telling yourself that your golden years are ahead, too…


  84. Gypsy
    84 | October 28, 2009 7:06 pm

    re: #82 by snork

    Irony is in spinach, I think. (”I say it’s spinach, and I say the hell with it!”)


  85. Speranza
    85 | October 28, 2009 7:06 pm

    re: #75 by song_and_dance_man

    The funny thing is that Chaz can come over here and debate us and will not be banned or deleted but we cannot do that on his blog.Anyway he is a lousy debater and cannot fucntion without the banning stick.


  86. m
    86 | October 28, 2009 7:06 pm

    re: #66 by Flyovercountry

    ululating!

    ulululululululululululu!


  87. Moe Katz
    87 | October 28, 2009 7:06 pm

    re: #83 by snork

    That’s okay. What’s bad is if you can’t understand the text anymore.


  88. Buffalobob
    88 | October 28, 2009 7:07 pm

    The loss of the dog is exponentially greater than the death of 1000 Imams.
    Is there a collection site where we can send urine samples to water Christopher’s flowers.


  89. brownpaperkid
    89 | October 28, 2009 7:07 pm

    I don’t think “ummah” translates to brotherhood at all. I would suggest that the Ummah is what all Muslims, both ‘moderate’ and otherwise regard as the muslim civilization akin to what we call western civilization.


  90. newsjunkie_ky
    90 | October 28, 2009 7:07 pm

    I needed a smile today, thanks for the info.

    Sorry about the dog.


  91. song_and_dance_man
    91 | October 28, 2009 7:07 pm

    re: #60 by Incognito

    It is interesting that Islam seeks to convert criminals to their cause, where other groups move to reshape and move them away from their lawless proclivities.


  92. Ed Mahmoud
    92 | October 28, 2009 7:07 pm

    OT
    Evening porno from Jeff Lindner, Harris County Emergency Management Office.

    Very rough 48 hours on tap for TX.

    Threats include: Flash Flooding, river/bayou flooding, urban flooding, tornadoes, high winds, coastal flooding

    Discussion:
    Powerful upper trough digging into the SW US. Upper air analysis from the western US shows 150kt jet still digging on the backside of this system suggesting a slower eastward movement and deeper southward track. Across TX, rapid moisture has returned with dewpoints now in the 70’s over most of SE TX and the mid 70’s over Matagorda Bay. Low level jet has developed in response to surface pressure falls over the TX panhandle being forced by incoming upper level storm system. Low level jet is expected to increase to near 45kts this evening with progged 850mb winds increasing to near 60-65kts early Thursday pumping 2.0+ inch PWS into the region.

    Radar is starting to show scattered showers developing as moisture deepens. Expect a nearshore coastal marine boundary to establish this evening and may focus strong thunderstorm development after midnight, although this is uncertain at this time.

    Thursday:
    Warm sector air mass will be well established as lift begins to overspread from the west. Expect numerous thunderstorms to develop by morning and train NNE across the area. Low level shear values increase and expect some storms to become severe with mesocyclone formation promoting tornado genesis. While instability is lacking, the amount of wind energy is suggestive of both tornadoes and damaging straight line winds. Storms will be excessive rainfall producers as warm saturated layer promotes warm rainfall production with moisture levels over 200% above late October normals.

    Thursday night:
    Strong cold front will reach the area and slow down as upper winds become parallel to the boundary. Expect a large squall line to develop Thursday midday along I-35 and track eastward while slowing in forward motion. Discrete storms developing ahead of this main line and rooted near the surface will have a tornado threat while the line itself will have a straight wind damage threat given strong mid level flow punching around the base of the upper trough. Main concern is rainfall and flash flooding given slowing forward storm motions and high threat for cell training. Impressive low level flow will continue to pump tremendous moisture into the line of convection allowing an extended period of excessive rainfall. Not sure where the line will slow the most, and it remains possible that stronger outflow winds may be enough to force the main line off the coast much like Monday.

    Friday:
    Upper trough will lag behind the main front back over New Mexico allowing good moisture supply to be lifted up and over the top of the surface cold dome promoting strong isentropic ascent and moderate rainfall nearly all day Friday. Cold air advection at the surface along with strong N winds,clouds and rainfall will make for a cold day with temps. steady in the 50’s. Rain will end from west to east Friday evening and skies clear by Saturday morning making for a nice Halloween.

    Rainfall:
    Have upped QPF numbers from this morning based of 12Z guidance and newly released HPC guidance. HPC shows an impressive 24hr bulls-eye of over 5.0 inches over Polk County with a widespread 3-4 inches from Matagorda to Harris to San Jacinto County. Will go with widespread amounts of 2-4 inches with isolated totals of 5-8 inches possible. Given low flash flood guidance values, saturated grounds, and swollen/flooding rivers rainfall of this magnitude will cause significant run-off and flooding. High hourly rainfall rates will produce urban flash ponding/street flooding and produce significant rises on area bayous and creeks.

    Severe Threat:
    Will look for a tornado threat during the day Thursday mainly E of a Palacios to Columbus to CLL line where shear will be greatest and surface moisture influx the strongest. Wind threat will increase late in the day as linear line approaches from the W/NW with leading edge wind damage potential. Given extremely moist layer and high freezing levels, hail should be isolated in nature. Events such as this in the past have supported more tornadoes than anything (11-17-03 event)

    Coastal Flooding:
    Strong onshore SE winds will result in building long period swells tonight. Large swells will add significant water to the beach front and trap outgoing high tides mainly from Galveston County E into SW LA. Tides will run 3-4 feet above normal. Tides at these levels combined with large wave action will result in some flooding of low lying areas on Bolivar and possible wave splash over on HWY 87. More significant impacts may be felt in SW LA.

    Hydro:
    River flooding is forecast or in progress on several area rivers. Forecasted widespread QPF over much of the area river basins will promote additional rises going into this weekend and may force some channels into major flooding. Given current rainfall projections feel the main concern will be the Brazos, San Jacinto, and Trinity basins especially since the lower Trinity and lower Brazos are already forecast to go into minor/moderate flooding even without this additional rainfall.
    </blockquote?

    Hubba Hubba


  93. Speranza
    93 | October 28, 2009 7:08 pm

    re: #91 by song_and_dance_man

    Islam appeals to losers and criminals.


  94. bar
    94 | October 28, 2009 7:09 pm

    re: #68 by snork

    When I am both, I don’t think like that.


  95. Speranza
    95 | October 28, 2009 7:09 pm

    re: #92 by Ed Mahmoud

    I always meant to ask you – what’s with the weather forecasts?


  96. snork
    96 | October 28, 2009 7:13 pm

    re: #86 by m

    Have you received the emails in the past two days? There should be two separate documents.


  97. song_and_dance_man
    97 | October 28, 2009 7:14 pm

    re: #67 by Speranza

    To 1.0 cum Cj, Creationism, ala belief in God, is the measure for disapproval. That is meter that Cj bases his old found latencies on.


  98. m
    98 | October 28, 2009 7:16 pm

    re: #96 by snork

    Yep! Gotcha!


  99. Gypsy
    99 | October 28, 2009 7:16 pm

    My understanding is the Black Muslims are one of three powerful racialist gangs in our prison system. There is also a Latin gang, and a white gang, the Aryan something or other. I don’t know how much religion is really involved with the prison Muslims, bit if this guy is a sample, it’s not about a religion of peace.


  100. snork
    100 | October 28, 2009 7:19 pm

    re: #97 by song_and_dance_man

    To 1.0 cum Cj, Creationism, ala belief in God, is the measure for disapproval.

    Type, Freudian slip, or snark?


  101. song_and_dance_man
    101 | October 28, 2009 7:20 pm

    re: #80 by Gypsy

    It would be a good thing. Charles coming over here and facing real questions in a whole new tough room. It will not happen any time soon, but who knows? Everyone else that posted there when 1.0 was a blog to be reckoned with have left for whatever reason. Hiding behind the 1.0 skirts can’t go on forever, so there is hope he may crawl out of the 1.0 hole and find new hard and tough room sunshine.


  102. Speranza
    102 | October 28, 2009 7:21 pm

    re: #97 by song_and_dance_man

    I think Woodstock Boy is just looking for an excuse to dump his friends on the Right. Up until 2007 he never showed an inclination to give a crap about Creationism et al. I think he feels the need to justify his doing an (Benedict) Arnold on us.


  103. IslandLibertarian
    103 | October 28, 2009 7:24 pm

    About believing in Creationism………so fucking what!
    I care weather my representative wants to impose social engineering, tax increases, weaken national security, open the borders, tell me what to drive, what to listen to, when to go to the doctor, etc, etc…….
    What a fucking straw-man is this “Creationist-Christian” bogey-man politician!

    CJ started diverting attention a while ago. I think he’s connected.


  104. JeremyR
    104 | October 28, 2009 7:25 pm

    re: #69 by Moe Katz

    it’s a matter of steering between savagery (no offense to the blogowner) and neurosis.

    Well, that sums it up, the choice is between Savage and charles. no need to say what I chose, we all chose.


  105. Speranza
    105 | October 28, 2009 7:26 pm

    re: #103 by IslandLibertarian

    yeah I go to bed at night worried about creationism – the Republic is endangered!


  106. IslandLibertarian
    106 | October 28, 2009 7:31 pm

    re: #105 by Speranza

    You should be worried!
    I’ve heard that the Palin squad is sneaking into homes at night and baptizing unknowing sleepers who awaken spouting Bible scriptures and speaking in tongues! Then they go on to lead boring moral lives!
    Be afraid! BE VERY AFRAID!


  107. snork
    107 | October 28, 2009 7:32 pm

    re: #104 by JeremyR

    I’ll take a sane Savage over a lonny-toon any day.

    But Chucky thinks Savage is crazy and threatening his life…


  108. JeremyR
    108 | October 28, 2009 7:34 pm

    re: #105 by Speranza

    Amish terrorists. They are taking over the world with their anti industrial ways. They have set out to destroy America and put us all back in horse drawn wagons and living with out electricity.
    And all this time I thought Wright was a Minister in the UCC.
    Next watch out for the Lutheran holy war. Thier music will drive you insane! all that singing about Jesus, and Angels and Heaven. Shrudder!


  109. Speranza
    109 | October 28, 2009 7:35 pm

    re: #106 by IslandLibertarian

    and I hear a rumor that they force us to sit through all 4 hours of The Ten Commandments and all 3 hours of King of Kings.


  110. snork
    110 | October 28, 2009 7:35 pm

    re: #105 by Speranza

    Chuckles staring at the ceiling at night:

    It’s 3:07 am, and somebody might be posting creationism on the blog…

    It’s 3:08 am, and somebody might be posting creationism on the blog…

    It’s 3:09 am, and somebody might be posting creationism on the blog…

    It’s 3:10 am, and somebody might be posting creationism on the blog…

    STINKY!!!!!!!!!


  111. Eliana
    111 | October 28, 2009 7:35 pm

    re: #105 by Speranza

    yeah I go to bed at night worried about creationism – the Republic is endangered!

    Liberals carefully construct their own societal and global dangers and then put everything they’ve got into solving the problems they’ve created.

    It’s a disease called AlGorism.


  112. Ed Mahmoud
    112 | October 28, 2009 7:35 pm

    95 I don’t know, I like it…


  113. song_and_dance_man
    113 | October 28, 2009 7:35 pm

    re: #93 by Speranza

    Why yes is does and they seek kindred spirit

    The idea that violent criminals, incarcerated in prisons throughout the country, could become ardent converts to radical Islam has only recently come to the attention of the American public.

    These individuals were planning to attack military and Jewish facilities and members during Jewish holiday times. They converted to a very radical and rigid form of Wahabi Islam while in prison.

    I was waiting for a Pastor or Rabbi to suggest the same and in waiting was with relief disappointed.


  114. Speranza
    114 | October 28, 2009 7:36 pm

    re: #108 by JeremyR

    and we have to wear those funny hats.


  115. 115 | October 28, 2009 7:36 pm

    This should be done to all these Islamists in America.


  116. JeremyR
    116 | October 28, 2009 7:37 pm

    re: #107 by snork

    But Chucky thinks Savage is crazy and threatening his way of life…

    Well, he is, Charles is having to beg now that Savage has lured all the sane folks with money away leaving only poor lil Irass Hoe, Ass Weasel and fiends.


  117. snork
    117 | October 28, 2009 7:37 pm

    re: #108 by JeremyR

    You know…

    If he went to Catholic grade school, he could be traumatized for life by the nuns. That’s enough to scar anyone for life.

    Another theory in the bin.


  118. song_and_dance_man
    118 | October 28, 2009 7:38 pm

    re: #100 by snork

    Pure type. I would not suggest such a thing with out clear intent with all the bells.


  119. Speranza
    119 | October 28, 2009 7:38 pm

    re: #113 by song_and_dance_man

    only a violent and criminal mind in this day and age would be attracted to Islam. (and don’t bring up the Crusades please – they were 900 years ago).


  120. JeremyR
    120 | October 28, 2009 7:40 pm

    re: #114 by Speranza

    Shudder!


  121. Gypsy
    121 | October 28, 2009 7:41 pm

    re: #107 by snork

    What’s with his obsession with threats? Any time somebody makes a wisecrack about him, he starts typing that he is being threatened. Is he collecting “data” for Google to de-list certain blogs, or what?


  122. 122 | October 28, 2009 7:42 pm

    re: #86 by m

    More ululating (in Toronto):
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiSR49LfLIQ


  123. Speranza
    123 | October 28, 2009 7:42 pm

    re: #111 by Eliana

    “It’s a disease called AlGorism.”

    and in Chaz’s case – a reverse McCarthyism. Btw you are a smart poster, I like reading your stuff.

    “The Republic (or Fatherland) is in danger” in French wasn’t that the famous battle cry “patrie en danger”?


  124. Eliana
    124 | October 28, 2009 7:42 pm

    The violent criminals who convert to Islam also know that they will have financial support when they get out of prison.

    Essentially, they will be hired as Jihadists.

    They might as well put Al Capone in prison as a career counselor and employment recruiter.


  125. Moe Katz
    125 | October 28, 2009 7:43 pm

    re: #104 by JeremyR

    ROTFLMAO


  126. Speranza
    126 | October 28, 2009 7:43 pm

    re: #121 by Gypsy

    Someone wrote that he hoeps that someone puts a stick in Chaz’s bicycle wheel and Chaz claimed that his life was threatened.


  127. Ed Mahmoud
    127 | October 28, 2009 7:43 pm

    I believe the al-Saud family funds Islamic prison ministries…


  128. JeremyR
    128 | October 28, 2009 7:44 pm

    re: #117 by snork

    There are times I have wondered if some priest mollested him.


  129. Ed Mahmoud
    129 | October 28, 2009 7:47 pm

    A stick in the bicycle whell could cause Chaz to crash, and get a nasty road rash.


  130. 130 | October 28, 2009 7:47 pm

    re: #119 by Speranza

    Plus the Crusades was a reaction to 400 years of Islamic aggression. The breaking point was the Turkish victory over the Eastern Romans (Byzantines) at Manzikert in 1071. The Emperor Alexius asked for help.


  131. 131 | October 28, 2009 7:47 pm

    re: #127 by Ed Mahmoud

    Yes they do!


  132. snork
    132 | October 28, 2009 7:47 pm

    re: #121 by Gypsy

    That’s a possibility, but there’s no reason to put it out on his own blog if that’s the reason. He’s seriously delusional. When he claimed that I threatened his life (because I used the word “hippy”), he displayed the “evidence”. Somebody there suggested from the “evidence” that I wasn’t talking about him, and he fired back. He was as convinced that I threatened him as Queeg was that there was a second key.

    That was when I started calling him Queeg.


  133. 133 | October 28, 2009 7:48 pm

    So sorry about the FBI dog. That is a shame.


  134. snork
    134 | October 28, 2009 7:48 pm

    re: #128 by JeremyR

    But did he enjoy it?


  135. Ed Mahmoud
    135 | October 28, 2009 7:49 pm

    I think the crusades were earlier than that, as the break between the Latin and Greek churches happened about then, partly as a result of some less well mannered Western European crusaders looting the very churches they had saved from the Musselmen.

    That, and whether The Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father, or the Father and the Son.


  136. 136 | October 28, 2009 7:49 pm

    re: #133 by Urban Infidel

    Muslims love killing Dogs!


  137. Moe Katz
    137 | October 28, 2009 7:50 pm

    re: #99 by Gypsy

    “There is also a Latin gang”

    Watch out for them. They want to make everyone learn Latin, we’ll all be wandering around muttering hic, haec, hoc, huius, huius, huius … viz. John Cleese in Life of Brian.


  138. 138 | October 28, 2009 7:50 pm

    re: #135 by Ed Mahmoud

    It was 1204 when the Venetians back stabbed the East Romans (Byzantine-Greeks). That’s was wrong.


  139. Ed Mahmoud
    139 | October 28, 2009 7:50 pm

    My bad, crusades went to 1291 per quick interweb search…


  140. 140 | October 28, 2009 7:51 pm

    re: #99 by Gypsy

    The Latin Kings beat up the Muslims and Aryan Nation in jails.


  141. snork
    141 | October 28, 2009 7:51 pm

    re: #130 by Rodan

    The Crusades are a sore subject. I think you understand that. As long as you understand that, knock yourself out, but you’re going to be alone on this one.


  142. wolfie
    142 | October 28, 2009 7:52 pm

    re: #111 by Eliana

    algorism
    algorist
    algoristic
    algorical, algoric

    Usage in sentences:

    When it comes to creationism, Charles is an algorist.

    He holds an algoristical view on American Nazism.

    Good term. I like it.


  143. Eliana
    143 | October 28, 2009 7:52 pm

    re: #123 by Speranza

    Hi Speranza – I like reading your posts too!


  144. 144 | October 28, 2009 7:53 pm

    re: #136 by Rodan

    Yup. They just love to kill, and kill and kill.

    Poor dog, he didn’t deserve to die.


  145. snork
    145 | October 28, 2009 7:53 pm

    re: #137 by Moe Katz

    It’s worse than that. The Latin gang have a secret plan to introduce creationism into the schools, because…

    Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition…


  146. Speranza
    146 | October 28, 2009 7:54 pm

    re: #130 by Rodan

    The Crusades were a reaction to the Islamic aggression a few centuries earlier.

    Cliff Lee mowing Yankees down.


  147. Gypsy
    147 | October 28, 2009 7:54 pm

    re: #137 by Moe Katz

    Hoc, hanc, hunc!

    Sounds like a cheer for some Ivy League football team in the 1920’s.

    ,,, and with that I’ll say good night to everybody – its past my bedtime and I’m not making sense any more.


  148. song_and_dance_man
    148 | October 28, 2009 7:54 pm

    re: #121 by Gypsy

    He is a victim of his own circumstance and cheese lines are beneath him. Oh wait, there is google (an entity he used to criticize) and Amazom, the new pimp. And if anyone noticed he is the new boy for Barnes and Noble.


  149. 149 | October 28, 2009 7:54 pm

    re: #141 by snork

    Well they were flawed but the Muslims started it with 400 years of attacks.

    I will never apologize for the Reconquista of Spain. We had a right to free our land from the Arab-Muslims.


  150. Speranza
    150 | October 28, 2009 7:55 pm

    re: #144 by Urban Infidel

    In Islam a dog is considered to be unclean. I consider radical Muslims to be unclean.


  151. 151 | October 28, 2009 7:55 pm

    re: #146 by Speranza

    No surprise there, I really don’t think the Yankees will win the series. Philly is the defending Champs.


  152. Cheesehead
    152 | October 28, 2009 7:55 pm

    re: #132 by snork

    I’ll wager a guess that they’re (1.0) debating whether or not it’s “proper” and “civil” to celibrate the turds death or not. Other night they’re couldn’t even bring themselves to wish for al Qaeda members, death. It was deemed that Smilin’ Charlie would find that, offensive.


  153. Ed Mahmoud
    153 | October 28, 2009 7:56 pm

    Texas has rival Mexican prison gangs, per an episode of “Gangland” I watched on TLC or History or some cable channel.


  154. 154 | October 28, 2009 7:56 pm

    re: #150 by Speranza

    Agreed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


  155. 155 | October 28, 2009 7:56 pm

    Probably old news but I just saw in the last post that Zombie was banned from LGF. Anyone care to give me the short version?


  156. 156 | October 28, 2009 7:56 pm

    Has Dumbama come out to say the Detroit FBI acted stupidly yet?


  157. Speranza
    157 | October 28, 2009 7:56 pm

    re: #143 by Eliana

    We both are history buffs.


  158. Moe Katz
    158 | October 28, 2009 7:56 pm

    re: #147 by Gypsy

    And the ancient Egyptian prayer:

    Who is the sun god?

    Ra!

    Who’s the Number One god?

    Ra!

    Ra! Ra! Ra!


  159. Ed Mahmoud
    159 | October 28, 2009 7:57 pm

    Why did Mo hate dogs? Did all Arabs 1300 years ago hate dogs, or could the dogs sense something wasn’t quite right with Mo?


  160. lobo91
    160 | October 28, 2009 7:57 pm

    re: #150 by Speranza

    My dog agrees with you.


  161. 161 | October 28, 2009 7:58 pm

    Speaking of Odummy,
    I took these in DC today.

    Be afraid!!!!!!!!!!!!

    http://urbaninfidel.blogspot.com/2009/10/halloween-in-dc-rastabama.html


  162. Speranza
    162 | October 28, 2009 7:58 pm

    re: #155 by Jehu

    On her blog (when she was not even there) a few people criticized LGF and Chaz and Irish Rose and Cato the Ogre got pissed off that she did not delete it. Her thing is not to delete posts.


  163. song_and_dance_man
    163 | October 28, 2009 7:58 pm

    re: #129 by Ed Mahmoud

    That is a real threat to sticks. You should be banned for that.
    /


  164. Speranza
    164 | October 28, 2009 7:59 pm

    re: #160 by lobo91

    smart canine!


  165. newsjunkie_ky
    165 | October 28, 2009 7:59 pm

    So, Al Gore received a $529 million U.S. government loan for Fisker Automotive, a company in which he has an investment interest.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125383160812639013.html

    The Obama administration took over control of General Motors, which was followed by the closing of several GM manufacturing plants.

    An announcement was made today that Fisker Automotive was planning on retooling a closed GM plant in Wilmington, Delaware to make electric cars.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/BT-CO-20091027-719796.html

    VP Biden’s home state is Delaware.
    Look away, there’s nothing to see here.
    –kaintuck


  166. 166 | October 28, 2009 8:00 pm

    re: #159 by Ed Mahmoud

    The story is that when Mo started preaching a Dog pissed on him. Then when the 1st Mosque was built a pack of Dogs when in and pissed in it.


  167. Ed Mahmoud
    167 | October 28, 2009 8:00 pm

    Zombie attacked Obama’s child molestation czar on her blog, and one of Chuckles ‘minions’ went over there and criticized, and was responded to by other ZomBlog posters, who defamed Chuckles, and Zombie didn’t delete the posts and ban the posters.

    All bloggers must bow to Chuckles and his minions or face banning.

    Cato went over there as well, and used some obscure German lit reference as a nic, and mocked the posters who weren’t fluent in early 20th century German lit…


  168. 168 | October 28, 2009 8:00 pm

    re: #158 by Moe Katz

    Ra Ra Ra Ra!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1


  169. Speranza
    169 | October 28, 2009 8:01 pm

    re: #151 by Rodan

    Philly is not intimidated by the Yankees or Yankee Stadium.


  170. Eliana
    170 | October 28, 2009 8:02 pm

    re: #148 by song_and_dance_man

    And if anyone noticed he is the new boy for Barnes and Noble.

    Seriously? Is CJ promoting Barnes & Noble with their Kindle-Killer E-reader that they are coming out with in time for holiday shopping this year?

    Is the Amazon Kindle now under the LGF bus?

    Will Sharmuta go mad when she finds out that she bought a Kindle with money she didn’t have for nothing?

    /Stay tuned for the next dramatic episode of “As the Lizard Turns.”


  171. 171 | October 28, 2009 8:02 pm

    re: #169 by Speranza

    Yanks are getting murtlized!


  172. 172 | October 28, 2009 8:02 pm

    re: #169 by Speranza

    Philly is the defending the Champs. The Yanks have not been there since 2003. The Angels were not intimidated either.


  173. Speranza
    173 | October 28, 2009 8:04 pm

    re: #167 by Ed Mahmoud

    Irish Rose (the incontinent one) went in with her sanctimonious yapper and mouthed off to Zombie how “disappointed she was with her”. Zombie wasn’t even on the blog at the time. Cato the Ogre came on later and was pissed on by everyone when he tried to throw his hefty girth around.


  174. GrandJunctionite
    174 | October 28, 2009 8:04 pm

    Evening all. Pity about the K9. Glad the jihadist assumed room temp. Just sitting by the fire with my best dog Jeeves after blowing out all my irrigation lines this evening.

    I noticed an open registration thread at that otherplace has been up for a few hours with maybe 3 new hatchlings. Oh how times have changed.


  175. 175 | October 28, 2009 8:04 pm

    re: #165 by newsjunkie_ky
    The Stimulus is a way for Progressives to scam for money.


  176. lobo91
    176 | October 28, 2009 8:04 pm

    re: #166 by Rodan

    The story is that when Mo started preaching a Dog pissed on him. Then when the 1st Mosque was built a pack of Dogs when in and pissed in it.

    Dogs are good judges of character.


  177. Speranza
    177 | October 28, 2009 8:05 pm

    re: #171 by Urban Infidel

    Rooting for the Yanks is like rooting for Microsoft.


  178. 178 | October 28, 2009 8:06 pm

    re: #176 by lobo91

    When the Muslims invaded the Eastern Roman Empire and Spain, they killed people’s dogs.


  179. GrandJunctionite
    179 | October 28, 2009 8:06 pm

    re: #167 by Ed Mahmoud

    Kragar had a comment tonight over there thanking god you were no longer around Ed.

    Their loss/Our Gain.


  180. 180 | October 28, 2009 8:06 pm

    re: #177 by Speranza

    Let me guess, Met fan?


  181. 181 | October 28, 2009 8:07 pm

    Newt Gingrich has not just endorsed Scozzafava.

    http://jumpinginpools.blogspot.com/2009/10/newt-gingrich-has-not-only-endorsed.html


  182. passionate conservative
    182 | October 28, 2009 8:07 pm

    re: #103 by IslandLibertarian

    chaz only connection is to Barney Fwank. IYKWIMAITYD


  183. GrandJunctionite
    183 | October 28, 2009 8:07 pm

    re: #177 by Speranza

    Dead on. The Evil Empire.
    5-0 Phillies!!!!


  184. Speranza
    184 | October 28, 2009 8:07 pm

    re: #174 by GrandJunctionite

    a lot of the new “hatchlings” (notice how he opens registration just about every week lately?) are socks coming over from Freee Republic and Ace of Spades to tell him to **** off!

    5-0 Phillies!


  185. 185 | October 28, 2009 8:08 pm

    re: #183 by GrandJunctionite

    Haters!!!!!!!!!!1

    :-)


  186. Eliana
    186 | October 28, 2009 8:08 pm

    If you’re ever in Judea and Samaria and you see a loose dog running around, say “Shalom” to him if he approaches you.

    The relief on the dog’s face and entire body is quite visible. The “Shalom” people are the good guys (including when it comes to being dog-friendly people) and the dogs know it.

    The dogs’ tails wag so hard that it almost brings tears to your eyes.


  187. 187 | October 28, 2009 8:09 pm

    re: #177 by Speranza

    Truthfully, I don’t even care about sports. My boyfriend loves the Yankees, so I’m following it.. sort of..


  188. GrandJunctionite
    188 | October 28, 2009 8:10 pm

    re: #185 by Rodan

    220 Mil just doesn’t buy what it used to.

    BTW I was born and raised a RedSox fan


  189. 189 | October 28, 2009 8:10 pm

    re: #186 by Eliana

    Do the Israelis rescue the stray Dogs?


  190. 190 | October 28, 2009 8:10 pm

    re: #186 by Eliana

    I believe it. I have two dogs. Dogs are very expressive and have great intuition.


  191. 191 | October 28, 2009 8:10 pm

    re: #188 by GrandJunctionite

    That explains it!


  192. 192 | October 28, 2009 8:11 pm

    re: #190 by Urban Infidel

    Tonight at the bar I was at a person had a Husky, at the outside part. I petted it for 20 Minutes and the Dog could not stop licking me. The owner bought me a beer!


  193. typicalwhitey
    193 | October 28, 2009 8:11 pm

    Hyperbole much?

    106 rollwave87
    Wed, Oct 28, 2009 7:58:15pm replyquote -1downupreport

    tonight sucks. the Yankees are getting schooled by this Lee douche and brownshirts are taking over the NY GOP.


  194. wolfie
    194 | October 28, 2009 8:11 pm

    re: #155 by Jehu

    The major breach came on a Van Jones thread.
    CJ decreed that Jones was a regular sort of guy and not a truther, despite having signed a truther petition. Zombie would not goose-step down the party line.
    The Undead One said that he/she/it had actually seen Jones at a radical truther rally in SF area. CJ for all intents and purposes called Z a liar. Zombie never returned.

    CJ’s excuse for officially banning Z was that some LGF refugees had made comments ‘insulting’ him on a thread at zomblog and zombie had not deleted them.

    It had to be zombie’s ‘fault,’ you see.


  195. GrandJunctionite
    195 | October 28, 2009 8:12 pm

    re: #190 by Urban Infidel

    Ours are members of the family. With all the rights and priveledges (and rules) thereof.


  196. 196 | October 28, 2009 8:13 pm

    re: #195 by GrandJunctionite

    Do you watch the Dog whisperer?


  197. 197 | October 28, 2009 8:13 pm

    re: #194 by wolfie

    CJ praised Van Jones as a good man.


  198. Poteen
    198 | October 28, 2009 8:14 pm

    He killed the dog.

    Roll the sick cocksuckers body in bacon grease, shoot him again and bury him in a pig sty.
    Son of a bitch.


  199. typicalwhitey
    199 | October 28, 2009 8:14 pm

    re: #194 by wolfie

    I saw him not too long ago talking about that and saying that he wasn’t going to believe the zombie because they had no proof.

    cj is just stupid


  200. song_and_dance_man
    200 | October 28, 2009 8:14 pm

    re: #186 by Eliana

    This may seem mystical but dogs sense human spirit. There is a connection, and I don’t say that just because I’m a man.


  201. 201 | October 28, 2009 8:14 pm

    re: #186 by Eliana

    Wow.


  202. GrandJunctionite
    202 | October 28, 2009 8:15 pm

    Did they ever think that the reason they can’t find any dirt on Hoffman could be because he is not a professional politician from a Party Machine?


  203. 203 | October 28, 2009 8:15 pm

    re: #198 by Poteen

    Roll him in Pig Grease and release him to a Hungry Pack of Wolves. That’s the fate he deserves.


  204. typicalwhitey
    205 | October 28, 2009 8:16 pm

    Why are they so rabid over there about creationists????


  205. 206 | October 28, 2009 8:16 pm

    re: #192 by Rodan

    I love Huskies. I used to have an Alaskan Malamute. Talk about a beautiful, gentle giant. He used to howl like wolf too. What a sweetie he was. I miss him.
    The two I have now are best buddies. They are so funny together clowning around all the time. The older one is a mixed rottie, shepard mix. Smart, funny [yes, he has a sense of humor!] and the most excellent watchdog you could ever want.


  206. song_and_dance_man
    207 | October 28, 2009 8:16 pm

    re: #197 by Rodan

    That is not surprising. Cj reverences God haters.


  207. Speranza
    208 | October 28, 2009 8:17 pm

    6 -0 Phillies. Bottom of the 9th coming up.


  208. 209 | October 28, 2009 8:18 pm

    re: #206 by Urban Infidel

    I had an Akita, they are related to Huskies and Malamutes. When my Akita died I cried for days. I still get sad thinking about him.

    I love Wolf like Dogs.


  209. GrandJunctionite
    210 | October 28, 2009 8:18 pm

    re: #196 by Rodan

    Not so much. I have, but something about Ceasar just doesn’t sit well with me.
    It may be because a gay fellow I know is always drooling about ceasar this and ceasar says that.
    It creeps me out.


  210. Eliana
    211 | October 28, 2009 8:18 pm

    re: #189 by Rodan

    Do the Israelis rescue the stray Dogs?

    Yes – there are groups that do this and most people try to help dogs and cats if they seem to be out on their own (as possible lost pets of Jewish owners). Pets are more willing to approach people than feral dogs and cats so if you see them near Jewish homes it’s quite possible that they are pets who’ve gone outside for a bit.

    There are also groups that try to help stray dogs and feral cats in particular.


  211. 212 | October 28, 2009 8:18 pm

    re: #195 by GrandJunctionite

    Mine too. I’m on a business trip in DC for a night and I miss them! I bet they are both snoring on my bed right now together.


  212. 213 | October 28, 2009 8:19 pm

    re: #205 by typicalwhitey

    They are nuts. Look I’m not a Creationist or a Darwinists. In reality I don’t care! I don’t get the obsession over that. It’s just what people believe, that’s all. It doesn’t influence politics or other things. It’s stupid.


  213. Ed Mahmoud
    214 | October 28, 2009 8:19 pm

    sleepy time.

    Watch out for creationists under the bed…


  214. Overlook
    215 | October 28, 2009 8:19 pm

    re: #197 by Rodan

    And he refused to see Color of Change as a race hustling organization (founded by Van Jones). Its scheme to have advertizers leave the Beck show is the gleeful theme of many posts. He would not countenance an association trail back to the White House through Van Jones.


  215. 216 | October 28, 2009 8:20 pm

    re: #211 by Eliana

    I read about this Israeli guy who rescues animals, dogs, cats, you name it. Especially the donkeys that the paleos abuse in the most horrific ways. I can’t even think about it. God bless those who help animals.


  216. Speranza
    217 | October 28, 2009 8:20 pm

    re: #197 by Rodan

    CJ hates Republicans and will praise anyone who is a left winger now. He said that Van Jones was too left wing for him but that he did not deserve to be called a truther which was (in Sharmuta’s favorite term) “disingenuos” of him.


  217. GrandJunctionite
    218 | October 28, 2009 8:20 pm

    re: #214 by Ed Mahmoud

    G-d please put Sarah Palin anywhere near my bed.


  218. wolfie
    219 | October 28, 2009 8:21 pm

    re: #199 by typicalwhitey

    There is none so blind as he who WILL NOT see.
    Some of CJ’s stupidity is intellectual deficiency, but a lot of it is willful.


  219. 220 | October 28, 2009 8:21 pm

    re: #213 by Rodan

    They hate religion. I pity them.


  220. 221 | October 28, 2009 8:21 pm

    re: #211 by Eliana

    That’s great to know. The Arab Muslims kill stray Dogs. In fact the reason there are Farrel Dogs is because as teh region Islamisized, Dogs became hated. It’s sad because Dogs are great creatures.


  221. Overlook
    222 | October 28, 2009 8:21 pm

    re: #211 by Eliana

    The next thing we know, the Palestinians will be recruiting strays as shaheeds. Remember the suicide donkey?


  222. Speranza
    223 | October 28, 2009 8:23 pm

    re: #216 by Urban Infidel

    PETA cares more about dead donkeys and cats then
    dead humans.


  223. GrandJunctionite
    224 | October 28, 2009 8:23 pm

    re: #221 by Rodan

    Thats one reason so many troops try to get them home.

    Your Yanks are trying to stage a comeback.


  224. 225 | October 28, 2009 8:24 pm

    re: #220 by Urban Infidel

    Agreed, I respect most faiths whether it’s Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, Wiccan, Hindu and whatever. Islam is the only one I don’t respect because in reality it’s just an Arabic Imperialist Movement disguised as a religion.


  225. Speranza
    226 | October 28, 2009 8:24 pm

    re: #213 by Rodan

    Me too. I don’t give a damn how we got here, only where we are going.


  226. Speranza
    227 | October 28, 2009 8:25 pm

    re: #224 by GrandJunctionite

    6-1 with one out.


  227. 228 | October 28, 2009 8:25 pm

    re: #224 by GrandJunctionite

    They ain’t doing anything. The 4 runs they gave up in the 9th and 8th killed them.


  228. newsjunkie_ky
    229 | October 28, 2009 8:25 pm

    Is ralph nader like 100 years old?


  229. Eliana
    230 | October 28, 2009 8:25 pm

    Dogs have amazing empathy for people and they know when someone is sick or in pain. They don’t need to be trained for this either, although the dogs who are trained can sense when someone is about to have a seizure.

    I saw a dog (a family pet) go over to someone who was having a horrible leg cramp and sit by the person’s side until the cramp went away. The man didn’t say to anyone that he was having a cramp. He just sat quietly for awhile and the dog went immediately over to his side when the pain started and remained perfectly still next to him until the cramp passed.

    It was as if the dog was passing his body’s warmth to the man while he was in pain. The dog just sat there without moving a single muscle until the pain was over and then the dog got up and started being demonstrative and friendly to the man whose pain had passed.

    The dog knew he was in pain and provided support.

    It was amazing.


  230. Speranza
    231 | October 28, 2009 8:27 pm

    A-Fraud has struck out for the 3rd time tonight.


  231. 232 | October 28, 2009 8:27 pm

    Thanks Ed, Spermanza and others. I thought Zombie was going to get banned, saw, he/she? was not agreeing in all things with CJ. True intellectuals like Charles know the truth and cannot accept any dissent, sort of like leaders of the inquisition. God protect us from zealots.


  232. song_and_dance_man
    233 | October 28, 2009 8:27 pm

    re: #205 by typicalwhitey

    My first guess is they have a problem with accepting their creator. Acknowledging that alone means there are rules that grain against their radical egalitarianism and individuality, and liberty from moral rule can have none of that.

    And they have a real problem with the truth that a scholar noted and will now be paraphrased.

    Those who deny to believe do so for a moral reason. It’s not that they cannot believe it is they refuse to believe. And that decision is based on the concept of morals and denial of the truth.


  233. 234 | October 28, 2009 8:28 pm

    re: #226 by Speranza

    The Origins of Humans are Cryptic and honestly who cares!


  234. song_and_dance_man
    235 | October 28, 2009 8:28 pm

    re: #220 by Urban Infidel

    BINGO. They hate God to a finer point.


  235. Speranza
    236 | October 28, 2009 8:29 pm

    Phillies win 6-1!


  236. GrandJunctionite
    237 | October 28, 2009 8:29 pm

    re: #230 by Eliana

    They are also training dogs to sniff out cancers in humans. Their powers are amazing.
    http://www.veterinarypracticenews.com/vet-practice-news-columns/complementary-medicine/sniffing-out-cancer.aspx


  237. Rancher
    238 | October 28, 2009 8:29 pm

    re: #229 by newsjunkie_ky

    Yes, and no smarter for it.


  238. Scott Madsen
    239 | October 28, 2009 8:29 pm

    Did Barack rend his shirt when he got news of this…oh wait….he’s not a Mensch. Did he light a candle….oh wait he went to Rev. Wright’s ‘church’. What’s left then….calling Farakahn for a national memorial service?


  239. Overlook
    240 | October 28, 2009 8:30 pm

    re: #230 by Eliana

    A TV program on dogs spotlighted a woman who breeds dogs so that the puppies can be used to ease the pain of her arthritis. She places them directly on the joints. “Puppy-on. Apply directly to the ache.”


  240. Speranza
    241 | October 28, 2009 8:31 pm

    re: #212 by Urban Infidel

    I hope someone’s walking them otherwise you come home to a bad scene!


  241. Eliana
    242 | October 28, 2009 8:31 pm

    re: #216 by Urban Infidel

    Especially the donkeys that the paleos abuse in the most horrific ways.

    Someone I know in Israel speaks Arabic somewhat so he was trying to be friendly to an Arab girl one day as she walked with her donkey near a checkpoint.

    He asked her in Arabic, “What is your donkey’s name?”

    She looked at him as if he was insane.

    She answered, “Donkey.”


  242. GrandJunctionite
    243 | October 28, 2009 8:31 pm

    Now maybe the Yankees will realize they are playing the defending champs instead of thinking they are the anointed ones.


  243. Speranza
    244 | October 28, 2009 8:32 pm

    re: #234 by Rodan

    “The Origins of Humans are Cryptic and honestly who cares!”

    I’m just worried about where we were headed.


  244. 245 | October 28, 2009 8:34 pm

    re: #243 by GrandJunctionite

    The Yankees don’t have that attitude. They said the Phillies are the Champs.


  245. Eliana
    246 | October 28, 2009 8:34 pm

    It’s a different culture when people have animals even for their use (such as horses to ride) without naming them.


  246. 247 | October 28, 2009 8:35 pm

    re: #244 by Speranza

    Yup agree 100%!


  247. 248 | October 28, 2009 8:35 pm

    A little Biblical history of the beginning of the Arab nations, and the resulting belief of Islam.

    This will give an idea of what is the root behind Islam, why it takes on its present form.

    Ishmael was the mistake Abraham made when he did not believe God that even though past fertility, and Sarah also beyond menopause he would have a son by Sarah. Sarah convinces him to have sex with one of her maids, which results in Ishmael.

    Several years later Sarah does conceive and gives birth to Isaac. Later Sarah catches Ishmael making fun of Isaac. She asks Abraham to send Ishmael and his mother away from them. Abraham prays to God to let Ishmael live (worst prayer in history).

    God listens and says “Ishmael,” will become a mighty nation, but will be a wild donkey of a man, who’s hand is against everyone, and everyone’s hand is against him.

    Later Islam comes from this racial line. The point is that Islam comes from the bitter and rejected. It is the religion of the bitter and rejected, tis why it does so well in prisons. Think of what Islam IS. It is primarily a religion that manifests bitterness and is based on rejection. Do everything Allah, or his ignorant savage Imams tell you lest you face the ultimate rejection of getting your head cut off.


  248. wolfie
    249 | October 28, 2009 8:37 pm

    re: #239 by Scott Madsen

    He’ll ignore it.
    We wouldn’t want the American riff-raff to think that Islam is not a religion of peace, would we?


  249. GrandJunctionite
    250 | October 28, 2009 8:38 pm

    re: #245 by Rodan

    Perhaps reading the NY papers and listening to fans on sports talk radio prejudiced my post..


  250. Overlook
    251 | October 28, 2009 8:38 pm

    re: #248 by Jehu

    What is interesting about this myth, is that the Jews claimed a half-brotherhood with Arabs.
    Why?


  251. snork
    252 | October 28, 2009 8:41 pm

    re: #197 by Rodan

    It was actually more specific than that. CJ admired Jones because he was “incredibly respected in the environmental community”. Like that means squirt.

    It’s his green blind eye. He lets his attack dogs violate Godwin’s law, and he does it himself, because green halos forgive all sins.

    Environmentalists can really be despicable sorry excuses for humanity sometimes. There’s no vainer group out there anywhere.


  252. Eliana
    253 | October 28, 2009 8:41 pm

    re: #251 by Overlook

    What is interesting about this myth, is that the Jews claimed a half-brotherhood with Arabs.
    Why?

    Ishmael and Isaac had the same father, but only Isaac had a Jewish mother.

    Jews sometimes say that the Arabs are our cousins (from Ishmael and Isaac who were half-brothers) but Ishmael is the guy in the Bible who is quite literally in his brothers’ faces (as in, “In your face!”) It means that he’s in his Arab brothers’ faces too.


  253. GrandJunctionite
    254 | October 28, 2009 8:42 pm

    re: #251 by Overlook

    They were all decendents of Abraham?


  254. 255 | October 28, 2009 8:42 pm

    re: #235 by song_and_dance_man

    Fine if they are atheists, okay. But they are so hostile to religion. They also fail to take into account that spirituality, going back to the earliest beginnings of civilization was a good thing. It actually helped the evolution of mankind in many ways.


  255. song_and_dance_man
    256 | October 28, 2009 8:43 pm

    re: #248 by Jehu

    The jealousy of Ismael and his seed from not receiving the inheritance is the struggle that is enjoined to this day. They are not the seed of promise, yet they seek to take it by force.

    They will fail in the end just as Ishmael was driven from the camp of Abraham.

    The God of Abraham knows just who his freinds are.


  256. 258 | October 28, 2009 8:44 pm

    re: #241 by Speranza

    My boyfriend is looking after them while I’m gone. He loves them, and all animals.


  257. Moe Katz
    259 | October 28, 2009 8:45 pm

    re: #251 by Overlook

    Well the Israelites didn’t come from Norway…


  258. GrandJunctionite
    260 | October 28, 2009 8:46 pm

    re: #257 by CloudyDay

    If this poor girl is taken back to her native country, or worse yet honor killed, what will be the progs excuse?

    They better keep her away from that family until she is 18.


  259. typicalwhitey
    261 | October 28, 2009 8:46 pm

    Ok.
    I can understand that you don’t believe in creationism.
    But why in the world would the fact that someone DOES believe in it, be looked at as something that could be used against someone politically?

    And I see creationism as believing that God is the creator.


  260. CloudyDay
    262 | October 28, 2009 8:47 pm

    re: #230 by Eliana

    Cat plays furry grim reaper at nursing home

    Excerpt:

    Oscar has predicted 25 deaths by curling up next to patient in final hours
    July 27, 2007

    PROVIDENCE, R.I. – Oscar the cat seems to have an uncanny knack for predicting when nursing home patients are going to die, by curling up next to them during their final hours.

    His accuracy, observed in 25 cases, has led the staff to call family members once he has chosen someone. It usually means they have less than four hours to live.

    “He doesn’t make too many mistakes. He seems to understand when patients are about to die,” said Dr. David Dosa in an interview. He describes the phenomenon in a poignant essay in Thursday’s issue of the New England Journal of Medicine.


  261. 263 | October 28, 2009 8:47 pm

    Have to say goodnight, friends. Have an early train back to NY in the morning.

    Peace out!


  262. Freddo
    264 | October 28, 2009 8:48 pm

    re: #3 by Incognito

    At the risk of grossing out some of the good people here, methinks those converts acquire a taste for muslim c*ck up the ass in prison, and that makes them become champions of the murderous ideology.


  263. garycooper
    265 | October 28, 2009 8:48 pm

    Hey, my first hat-tip ever! Thanks for that. I wasn’t looking for it, but it’s nice to be acknowledged.

    Agree with everyone who feels the dog was by far the greatest loss in this story. The scumbag terrorist basically committed suicide-by-cop, which shows what a waste of skin he was. And whoda thunk that old H. Rap Brown was still around, fomenting trouble? And they want to bring the Gitmo prisoners to Michigan? Just what we need…

    Some police dogs wear bulletproof vests now. In my city, there was a drive to raise money for this purpose after one of our dogs was killed in a hostage-situation. It’s a good idea, imho.

    In more news tonight, TV news-crews seeking comment and video of the dead terrorist’s mosque (a house in Dearborn) were attacked and their equipment trashed by followers. It really got ugly, and the newsmen were forced to retreat. This story isn’t over.


  264. 266 | October 28, 2009 8:49 pm

    re: #252 by snork

    I agree, many Environmentalists are Fanatics. Did you see that guy who said not to eat to save the planet?


  265. 267 | October 28, 2009 8:50 pm

    re: #251 by Overlook

    Myth? The genealogy of the Bible has been proven by archaeologists, repeatedly. Abraham is the father of Ishmael. Abraham is the father of Isaac. Isaac is the father of Jacob (and Esau), Jacob later his name becomes (Israel) is the father of the 12 tribes of Israel. Christ comes from the line of Judah. You need to understand that the Bible is the story of God’s search for a genetic (and spiritual) line down to the birth of Christ.

    It is metaphor for the part in us God is searching for, the part that wants to know Him, and thus to know the truth. The Bible depicts an exacting search to find that quality. You and all of us would do well to apply that to ourselves as an individual exercise.

    To act like you are born loving or knowing the “truth,” is a serious error. It produces, Nazis, Communists, Dark Age Church leaders, and modern day liberals, and people like C.J. And now we have a President that is moral idiot, but he believes he is the ONE. He is dangerous because he believes what he is doing is good. Such people always end up killing millions when they have power, “can’t make an omelet without breaking a few eggs!”


  266. snork
    268 | October 28, 2009 8:51 pm

    re: #261 by typicalwhitey

    Because this way, Mr. Johnson gets to play scientist. He can’t actually understand why water rolls downhill, but he figures that if he gets his pom-poms out and says “yay science!”, that that makes him a smarty.

    That’s what’s in it for him. That’s also why I tend to be very skeptical of the scientific depth of anyone who insists on treating science like a football team.


  267. Eliana
    269 | October 28, 2009 8:51 pm

    re: #262 by CloudyDay

    Yes, I’ve heard about this cat.

    Amazing!


  268. wolfie
    270 | October 28, 2009 8:53 pm

    re: #265 by garycooper

    Wow. Things are getting ugly.


  269. garycooper
    271 | October 28, 2009 8:53 pm

    Chuckie’s descent into paranoid fantasy and Leftist dogma (AGW, etc.) has been so abrupt and intense, I have to believe something major has changed in his life. Do you guys really think it’s a young hippie girlfriend? Could it really be Iceweasel?


  270. Overlook
    272 | October 28, 2009 8:55 pm

    re: #253 by Eliana

    Are you saying that this myth established the maternal line as the the significant factor for being a Jew?

    But why is it necessary to have the Arabs be the descendants of Abraham through Ishmael? Was it their propinquity? They were the closest “other”?


  271. Moe Katz
    273 | October 28, 2009 8:56 pm

    re: #265 by garycooper

    “Hey, my first hat-tip ever!”

    I had several on 1.0. I remember how proud I was, too.


  272. Freddo
    274 | October 28, 2009 8:57 pm

    re: #271 by garycooper

    I am a partisan of the theory that he has been bought. The change is definitely abrupt and radical.


  273. Overlook
    275 | October 28, 2009 8:57 pm

    re: #254 by GrandJunctionite

    But why make Abraham the father of the Arabs.
    (I obviously do not believe that it is the literal truth.)


  274. m
    276 | October 28, 2009 8:58 pm

    re: #271 by garycooper

    Sharmutant would scratch her eyes out.


  275. Overlook
    277 | October 28, 2009 9:00 pm

    re: #259 by Moe Katz

    Yes. An explanation for the similar, but idol-worshipping desert predators, their “neighbours”.


  276. 278 | October 28, 2009 9:00 pm

    C.J. was personally frightened by some Muslims in L.A. He went by a Mosque and in some way he was threatened. This right after 911. He told the story on his blog. So for a little while he came and hung out with conservative types. But as the danger of radical Islam fades, and his own personal fright fades, he reverts to type. Which is a liberal/progressive.

    He was never comfortable with the OTHER thing that comes with conservatives, and that is many, if not most, are either Christians or practice Jewish faith of some sort.

    C.J. displays the key difference between a liberal and a conservative. Ultimately a liberal must relate everything to themselves. Liberals will go to war when they are threatened, they will hardly go to war when their next door neighbor is threatened, or care less if little Iraqi girls are raped by Saddam’s goons. Or little girls are whipped and beaten for trying to go to school in Afghanistan. To understand a liberal is to understand a being of total and consumate self-interest.


  277. song_and_dance_man
    279 | October 28, 2009 9:02 pm

    re: #255 by Urban Infidel

    As I said earlier morality has everything to do with the basis for any belief system. At least it should. There can be no communal society with out law, or as it were, decrees from a higher source that translates into a better moral law.

    The ten terms suggests that.


  278. Overlook
    280 | October 28, 2009 9:02 pm

    re: #271 by garycooper

    I admired your standing up to the bluster and foot-stomping of the self-proclaimed scientist, LVQ.


  279. Aussie Infidel
    281 | October 28, 2009 9:02 pm

    re: #260 by GrandJunctionite

    Take a high profile Tranzi-Prog hostage someplace in a lawless jurisdiction, there are plenty to choose from after all. There are plenty of Tranzi-Progs floating about the world making themselves look important and ‘committed’ to their fellow craven followers.

    If this girl goes down then the Prog goes the same way, in technicolor and in stop action detail on U tube.

    Maybe if the Progs think that they actually have something to lose they might bite their tongues next time something like this goes down.

    As a bonus Tranzi-Progs will pare back their international travel through fear and they can then ‘bask in the glow’ of their self satisfied carbon footprint reduction!

    //sarc off

    Works for me!


  280. Eliana
    282 | October 28, 2009 9:06 pm

    re: #272 by Overlook

    Are you saying that this myth established the maternal line as the the significant factor for being a Jew?

    It’s Biblical rather than being a myth.

    I don’t think this part of the story of Abraham the Patriarch established the maternal line as being the determining factor for being born Jewish. It does explain a lot about the differences between Ishmael and Isaac, though.

    In Judaism, the maternal line establishes whether or not someone is born a Jew. The paternal line establishes whether or not someone is born a Levite (as it passes only from father to son). Although people can convert to Judaism, no one can become a Levite if the person isn’t a man born of a Levite father.

    But why is it necessary to have the Arabs be the descendants of Abraham through Ishmael? Was it their propinquity? They were the closest “other”?

    This is a question for G-d.

    It’s His story.


  281. garycooper
    283 | October 28, 2009 9:06 pm

    re: #274 by Freddo

    That makes sense to me, too. I made the mistake of drawing a link between Soros and realclimate.org towards the end of my time there, and he blew a gasket, saying “you just pulled that out of your ass, you have no evidence for such a claim!” Even though I presented my evidence quite clearly, just before.

    Soros could buy a few thousand Chuckies, and it wouldn’t put a crimp in his budget. But then, if he’s been bought, he must have sold himself cheap, or else why the constant begging for tips?


  282. Eliana
    284 | October 28, 2009 9:11 pm

    re: #275 by Overlook

    But why make Abraham the father of the Arabs.

    It was G-d’s decision.


  283. garycooper
    285 | October 28, 2009 9:13 pm

    re: #280 by Overlook

    I was convinced at the time that Ludwig was a sock-monkey for Chuckie, as his appearances were always so perfectly-timed. Also seemed to make sense from the standpoint that the uneducated (well, “self-taught”) Johnson needed someone with “unassailable credentials” to represent his new religious conviction. One time Ludwig told me, “My Ph.D trumps all of your internet research, so give it up.” Okay, give it up for the cat with the Ph.D! Right.


  284. song_and_dance_man
    286 | October 28, 2009 9:16 pm

    re: #272 by Overlook

    God chose Abraham and his seed though Isaac. The choice is a concern of the Eternal and not ours. We must accept it and not quibble how He made up his mind.


  285. Eliana
    287 | October 28, 2009 9:16 pm

    re: #285 by garycooper

    One time Ludwig told me, “My Ph.D trumps all of your internet research, so give it up.” Okay, give it up for the cat with the Ph.D! Right.

    CJ keeps inventing new and imaginative ways to get the last word.


  286. Overlook
    288 | October 28, 2009 9:20 pm

    re: #282 by Eliana

    I never question God.
    But I will ask religious historians. And I am sure that there is some interesting exegesis on this.

    Not only did the Jews claim blood ties with the troublesome Arab tribes, they simultaneously gave the Arabs a reason for their enmity towards themselves.

    It is touching.


  287. wolfie
    289 | October 28, 2009 9:21 pm

    How does anyone know that LVQ has a PhD, or a high school diploma, for that matter? Because he (or Chucky) says so?

    Anyone who answers an argument with “My PhD trumps your internet research” is probably a fraud and most certainly an ass.


  288. garycooper
    290 | October 28, 2009 9:22 pm

    re: #276 by m

    Yes, I guess Charmin would fight to the bitter end for her man. He could come out tomorrow and say he was in favor of euthanizing babies born into poverty, and she would be right there with him…”I love that idea, Charles. Wish I’d thought of it first!”

    But Iceweasel is a proud bisexual, not that there’s anything wrong with that. She’d be open to a three-way, no doubt. ;)


  289. wolfie
    291 | October 28, 2009 9:22 pm

    There is good research and bad research.
    There are good arguments and bad arguments.
    That’s all.


  290. Moe Katz
    292 | October 28, 2009 9:23 pm

    re: #289 by wolfie

    Even assuming he has a PhD, no one at the doctoral level should be resorting to an argumentum ad verecundium (argument from authority) rather than defending their views by valid argument.


  291. Overlook
    293 | October 28, 2009 9:24 pm

    re: #285 by garycooper

    LVQ is preposterous. I had the satisfaction of egging him on to foolishness on the last day I was permitted to post there.

    He was an instant expert on so many things. I enjoyed his excursions into the Talmud with Buzzsawmonkey, but he claimed no authority there.


  292. Moe Katz
    294 | October 28, 2009 9:25 pm

    re: #288 by Overlook

    This is an absurd discussion you are having with Eliana and others because you have completely different premisses and terms of references.


  293. wolfie
    295 | October 28, 2009 9:25 pm

    re: #292 by Moe Katz

    EXACTLY.


  294. garycooper
    296 | October 28, 2009 9:25 pm

    Also worth noting, is that it was Ludwig who banned me, after jumping into a discussion begun by Chuckie. I was giving him lots of guff, trying to provoke one of his cursing-fits, and then he dared me to say another word. I said a word, and just like that, I was through with that crowd of ninnies forever. Thank God.


  295. wolfie
    297 | October 28, 2009 9:28 pm

    re: #296 by garycooper

    Dare we ask what the word was????!!! ;)


  296. garycooper
    298 | October 28, 2009 9:29 pm

    Gotta sleep now. See ya!


  297. Overlook
    299 | October 28, 2009 9:30 pm

    re: #286 by song_and_dance_man

    I accept your acceptance of God. I shall not invite you to question the truth of the bible. I am probably in a tiny minority of atheists here. My questions are not meant to insult or provoke.


  298. Eliana
    300 | October 28, 2009 9:30 pm

    re: #288 by Overlook

    Not only did the Jews claim blood ties with the troublesome Arab tribes, they simultaneously gave the Arabs a reason for their enmity towards themselves.

    The Jewish people are also related to Europeans.

    Jacob and Esau (sons of Isaac, grandsons of Abraham) were twin brothers (fraternal twins) who were born with Esau first while Jacob was grabbing onto Esau’s heel as he was being born.

    Esau was a big hairy guy with red hair who spent a lot of his time hunting animals. Jacob was a smaller more studious guy. Esau should have gotten their father’s (Isaac’s) spiritual inheritance but their mother Rebecca thought that Jacob was more suited to the role.

    So Rebecca helped Jacob get the spiritual inheritance (and Esau himself helped in this without totally grasping what he was doing).

    Esau and Jacob split apart and reunited years later. Esau went away after they reunited and he is regarded as being the father of the Europeans.


  299. Overlook
    301 | October 28, 2009 9:31 pm

    re: #294 by Moe Katz

    So I gathered.


  300. garycooper
    302 | October 28, 2009 9:32 pm

    re: #297 by wolfie

    I just said something like, “Oh, brother…”I dare you!” Mocking the little doofus, who was just dying to bring down the ban-stick, but not as eager as I was to be banned. I was so done with that place.

    Ok, gotta go..bye for now.


  301. snork
    303 | October 28, 2009 9:33 pm

    re: #292 by Moe Katz

    Bingo. If he does have one, he’s not exactly a string theorist. Real scientists don’t argue like that.

    I could expand on that, but I think you understand fully.


  302. Overlook
    304 | October 28, 2009 9:35 pm

    re: #300 by Eliana

    Yes. The brotherhood of man is established twice over: we are all descended from Adam and Eve, and Noah.


  303. Freddo
    305 | October 28, 2009 9:41 pm

    re: #283 by garycooper

    “”But then, if he’s been bought, he must have sold himself cheap, or else why the constant begging for tips?”
    Good point. On the other hand, could be a subterfuge. Good night.


  304. Moe Katz
    306 | October 28, 2009 9:43 pm

    re: #303 by snork

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fI8834iCgo


  305. Jim
    307 | October 28, 2009 10:39 pm

    Islam is to religion, as rap is to music.


  306. PrincessNatasha
    308 | October 29, 2009 7:51 am

    Heh… Late to the thread but…. “Buh-bye, asshole! Enjoy your 72-year-old virgin in hell!”
    Also, feel really bad for the dog.


  307. waldensianspirit
    309 | October 29, 2009 7:17 pm

    So where is the DHS’s memo concerning the menace muslim converts in our prison system pose?

    Oh, they’d have to be concerned Charles would libel them as raaaacists.


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