Corzine Leads in New Jersey

Democrat Jon Corzine has run a ruthless Alinsky type campaign against his Republican challenger, Chris Christie.  Christie however has fallen into the common Republican trap and decided to run the typical “country club” style Republican campaign of refusing to fight back.  The result of this decision has not been surprising: he is presently losing.

New Jersey Gov. Jon Corzine leads Republican challenger Christopher Christie for the first time in their five-month slugfest, on top 43 – 38 percent among likely voters, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today. Independent candidate Christopher Daggett has 13 percent, with 5 percent undecided.

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Despite the common wisdom, this is what Republicans can expect when they refuse to fight back.  They will continue to get stomped on by The Progressives.   Jon Corzine is a lousy governor who has raised taxes, and otherwise ruined New Jersey.   He should be getting trampled by his opponent.  But he isn’t because unlike most Republicans, he is fighting back – and hard.   The American public respect fighters, and despise political eunuchs like Christie.   The proof of this can be seen in Virginia, where Republican McDonnell has been fighting ruthlessly against the Democrat Deeds and showing him no mercy.  The result? He is in the lead!

Let this be a lesson to Republicans that the McCain-Bush “country club” tactics of civility don’t work in the age of Alinsky-Styn-Corzine-Chris Christiele style politics.  Whether you like it or not, the facts prove that only ruthlessness gets results.

I despise Corzine, but have much more respect for him than I do Christie.   Corzine fights, while Christie cries like a chump!

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  1. Rancher
    1 | October 28, 2009 3:05 pm

    A prosecutor who won’t fight?


  2. Nevergiveup
    2 | October 28, 2009 3:06 pm

    I see what you have here, but most of the polls they are reporting in NJ has Christie in the lead and climbing up. With the third Party Candidate Daggart dropping. So lets not panic because of one poll here.


  3. song_and_dance_man
    3 | October 28, 2009 3:07 pm

    I agree. The time for niceties should have been over since 2000 when Gore and the (D)’s tried to steal that election.


  4. My 2 Cents
    4 | October 28, 2009 3:09 pm

    Sorry to go OT (and please accept my apologies if you’ve already seen this) but this would seem to be news worth noticing: http://www.detnews.com/article/20091028/METRO/910280436/Leader-of-Detroit-mosque-killed–11-charged-in-FBI-raids


  5. Rancher
    5 | October 28, 2009 3:10 pm

    The McCain campaign method: take the high road to defeat.


  6. coldwarrior
    6 | October 28, 2009 3:11 pm

    ‘country club’ republicans, indeed.

    man, i hate that term! i’m a repub and a CC member. cant we call them spineless republicans, maye ‘girlie-man republicans’ or how about ‘dumbasses’ ?

    ;)


  7. song_and_dance_man
    7 | October 28, 2009 3:11 pm

    re: #2 by Nevergiveup

    I just checked the RCP poll numbers on the race and they back and forth between Christie and Corzine over the past week. This is a close race and I wouldn’t leave it to the (D) to not have dirty tricks ready for deployment on election day.


  8. garycooper
    8 | October 28, 2009 3:12 pm

    Might be commenting in the wrong thread here, but I thought it would be interesting to some that a nasty terror-cell was broken-up today in Dearborn, MI. I’m also pissed that the leader killed the FBI dog, instead of surrendering when he knew he was surrounded.

    Story is still developing, but basically these were African-Americans who converted to Islam in prison, and sought to establish a sovereign state of Islam within American borders. You know, just like the Middle Eastern immmigrants are after.

    http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/21454119/detail.html


  9. Rancher
    9 | October 28, 2009 3:14 pm

    K-9s are officers, shoot one you get shot.


  10. coldwarrior
    10 | October 28, 2009 3:15 pm

    re: #8 by garycooper

    islam delenda est, no matter who they are.

    converts to islam are no longer american citizens. they are citizens of the ummah and must be destroyed. islam is a not a religion, it is a fascist, expansionist, politcal movement.


  11. IslandLibertarian
    11 | October 28, 2009 3:15 pm

    I just listened to an interview of Christie by Michael Medved.
    Christie did fight back.
    He rebuked Corzine for calling him fat!

    brought a butter-knife to a gunfight……….


  12. RickZ
    12 | October 28, 2009 3:16 pm

    Forget it, Rodan. It’s Joisey.

    /Chinatown

    Why are New Yorkers always depressed?
    .
    .
    .
    .
    .
    The light at the end of the tunnel is Joisey.

    Bada-boom.


  13. IslandLibertarian
    13 | October 28, 2009 3:16 pm

    ………and an OT to get you riled up……
    http://assets.comics.com/dyn/str_strip/000000000/00000000/0000000/300000/00000/0000/100/300140/300140.full.gif


  14. 14 | October 28, 2009 3:20 pm

    Is there any proof to the claims that Chris whatever ran a “country club” style race?

    The baseless statement by Rodan (despite what I think of him/her) isn’t enough for me.


  15. Rancher
    15 | October 28, 2009 3:21 pm

    How can you loose on lowering taxes in New Jersey? I think their property taxes are higher than New York. Income has dried up as they chase their most productive workers out of the state. The poll says they don’t believe Christie will lower taxes, how did Corzine pull that off? Anyway, Daggett voters will pull the switch for Christie rather than throw their votes away.


  16. chickadee
    16 | October 28, 2009 3:23 pm

    re: #10 by coldwarrior

    I couldn’t agree more. And in fact converts are often worse in their zeal to prove themselves.


  17. coldwarrior
    17 | October 28, 2009 3:24 pm

    re: #15 by Rancher

    NJ has the highest property taxes in the US.

    this is why my wife and i have not moved there, we love south jersey, her parents live there. so nj does not get our college level salaries or talents until the taxes go down.


  18. Incognito
    18 | October 28, 2009 3:30 pm

    re: #17 by coldwarrior

    So that explains why the house prices are so cheap in New Jersey…compared to California that is…


  19. My 2 Cents
    19 | October 28, 2009 3:30 pm

    re: #8 by garycooper

    Great minds think alike, Mr. Cooper. See my #4 post above yours. :)


  20. chickadee
    20 | October 28, 2009 3:36 pm

    re: #5 by Rancher

    It’s really true. McCain lost because he wouldn’t fight.
    The natural conclusion to draw from his failure to tenaciously go after the Presidency was that he also wouldn’t fight for his beliefs if he ever got in office.
    His nice guy approach against Zero was not inspiring.
    It was infuriating.


  21. Empire1
    21 | October 28, 2009 3:37 pm

    re: #10 by coldwarrior

    converts to islam are no longer american citizens. they are citizens of the ummah and must be destroyed. islam is a not a religion, it is a fascist, expansionist, politcal movement.

    I agree. Unfortunately, while your first sentence is true in fact, it is not so in law.


  22. snork
    22 | October 28, 2009 3:39 pm

    Must be a slow day at the funny farm. Can’t find any real slime on Republicans, so they throw up an onion thread.

    Of course, fake but accurate is ok, when it’s ok.


  23. snork
    23 | October 28, 2009 3:42 pm

    re: #6 by coldwarrior

    Pink elephants?


  24. 24 | October 28, 2009 3:43 pm

    I don’t believe this poll.

    Two much more reputable and accurate polling houses – Rassmussen and Survey USA – both have Christie up by 3 and 2 respectively, one per a poll released just yesterday.

    Quinnipiac nearly always leans way left. Last year, they had both Obama and Lautenburg pegged as winning by 8% more than either actually did. Jim Geraghty on Campaign Spot at NRO also pointed out that this Quinny poll has some pretty goofy and unrealistic assumptions in its demographic breakdown.


  25. snork
    25 | October 28, 2009 3:46 pm

    Sorta related:

    In Industry First, Voting Machine Company to Publish Source Code

    This is threadworthy. On balance, this is a good thing, but it does have some potential downsides.


  26. coldwarrior
    26 | October 28, 2009 3:46 pm

    re: #23 by snork

    nah…that’s what happens if you stay to long at the bar at the country club

    ;)


  27. 27 | October 28, 2009 3:48 pm

    s/:crickets


  28. Rancher
    28 | October 28, 2009 3:49 pm

    Did Schwarzenegger really tell San Francisco “Fuck You”?

    http://www.sfbg.com/blogs/politics/2009/10/arnold_to_sf_fuck_you.html


  29. snork
  30. vagabond trader
    30 | October 28, 2009 3:50 pm

    How is the guy in NYS doing?


  31. Sparky
    31 | October 28, 2009 4:03 pm

    re: #30 by vagabond trader

    hey VT
    he’s doing well,
    If you got a buck hit the tip jar. This ones a bell weather.

    http://www.doughoffmanforcongress.com/


  32. common_sense
    32 | October 28, 2009 4:06 pm

    in other news, Shep Smith tossed Fox under the bus today

    girl was interviewing the Republican candidate on tv

    when done, Smith asked her why Corzine was not interviewed, to be fair

    she said

    because he fucking will not come on FOX

    so Shep says out loud

    gosh, I am sorry for the lack of balance here at Fox

    what a liberal piece of shit
    he just tossed a big fat bone to 0bama and company

    don’t ever expect me to call Smith a conservative, he’s right down there with Geraldo, Combes, etc……

    but I agree, republicans can’t be pusses and expect to win

    if Corzine called him fat, he shoudl fucking sick the ACLU on Corzine
    bring up the hate crimes, etc…..


  33. Ben_Dover
    33 | October 28, 2009 4:09 pm

    Rodan

    I’m beggining to agree with you, on the ‘country club’ style of campaigning. There are simply no good talkers or debaters among the Republicans.

    In my opinion, I think it’s time for a 3rd party.


  34. Nevergiveup
    34 | October 28, 2009 4:13 pm

    re: #33 by Ben_Dover

    All third party does is boost the Democrats


  35. Empire1
    35 | October 28, 2009 4:16 pm

    re: #33 by Ben_Dover

    In my opinion, I think it’s time for a 3rd party.

    If I saw any hope for the Republicans, I’d be against this idea, simply on the practical grounds of how difficult it is to win with a third party. But since the Repubs seem to want to commit electoral suicide, I’d go along with a Small Government party.


  36. Empire1
    36 | October 28, 2009 4:17 pm

    re: #34 by Nevergiveup

    You have a point, but right now the Repubs are heading for the same statist goal, just at a slower pace. I’m not voting for a statist ever again, even if it’s a “go slower” statist.


  37. chickadee
    37 | October 28, 2009 4:18 pm

    re: #33 by Ben_Dover

    We don’t need a third party, we just need to take over the GOP and educate the Rinos.
    40% of this country identifies as Conservative.


  38. Nevergiveup
    38 | October 28, 2009 4:18 pm

    re: #35 by Empire1

    I’m sorry but actions like that may put Corzzine back into the State House in NJ


  39. common_sense
    39 | October 28, 2009 4:18 pm

    #34 correct

    we just need to make the republicans man up

    though I agree some times a 3rd candidate is the only way to wake them up

    Liberman won as an indy

    but then again, the donks have gone way more bloodthirsty since then

    maybe just harrass the woosies so that when they lose, it is noted and noticed that they lost from within, not because the donk was “better” but like McCain, they were not worthy of getting a precious vote

    0bama did not so much win as McCain conceded from the outset


  40. common_sense
    40 | October 28, 2009 4:21 pm

    we also need to educate the public

    all republicans are not religous zealots
    all republicans do not remain faithful to their wives
    all republicans do not pay their fair share of taxes
    all republicans are not against abortion

    we’re just like democrats, with failings and foibles

    except we’re not fucking socialists

    oh, and we fight fair (something that HAS to change)


  41. 41 | October 28, 2009 4:21 pm

    re: #6 by coldwarrior

    I call them country club collaborators.


  42. 42 | October 28, 2009 4:22 pm

    Something I would normally post on LGF:

    http://lesbates.blogspot.com/2009/10/moron-of-day.html

    While parked at a taxi stand in downtown Minneapolis I noticed that someone with a bunch of progressive stickers on their mountain bike (”SIMPLIFY YOUR LIFE…”, “THIS MACHINE KILLS FASCISTS”) did not lock the bike to the signpost marking the taxi stand but to the kryponine type lock of the ten-speed bike that was actually locked to the signpost. I suppose this gives a new meaning to Rand’s concept of the Second Hander. Think of it as parasitism in action.

    (Seriously, I wish I had a camera with me to record this sort of stuff.)

    What a f***ing moron. These f***ing morons believe that they’re smarter than the rest of us? Why do we allow any of them to vote? Why should anyone take orders from them?

    I simply can’t think of a reason.

    We now return you to your regularly scheduled reality.


  43. buzzsawmonkey
    43 | October 28, 2009 4:24 pm

    I was so hoping that Corzine would be tapped for Car Czar, just so we could say “Car Czar Corzine.”


  44. Empire1
    44 | October 28, 2009 4:25 pm

    re: #38 by Nevergiveup

    Maybe so, I don’t know. But I’ve done the LOTE thing between the two major parties to avoid exactly what’s happening now, and frankly I don’t see much hope for freedom making a comeback in my lifetime.

    It’s necessary to draw a line beyond which a person won’t sacrifice principle for expediency, and I’ve hit mine.


  45. 45 | October 28, 2009 4:26 pm

    I’m sick and tired of these willy nilly milk toast candidates.

    Haven’t any of these sallies watched The Godfather?

    It’s time to go to the mattresses?

    You can act like a man?


  46. song_and_dance_man
    46 | October 28, 2009 4:27 pm

    re: #43 by buzzsawmonkey

    Or maybe Pharmaceutical Czar Corzine.


  47. Rightside
    47 | October 28, 2009 4:31 pm

    re: #32 by common_sense

    He came out as a lib during katrina. Bleeding heart.


  48. 48 | October 28, 2009 4:31 pm

    OT:

    Another day, another ignorant Anti-Israel Jew.

    From Cij

    Jon Stewart’s disgraceful guests

    Jon Stewart has a couple of disgraceful guests on his show on Wednesday night for a night of Israel bashing: Mustafa Barghouti and Anna Baltzer (Hat Tip: Red Tulips).

    More on Barghouti here and here.

    More on Baltzer here and here.

    No, there’s no pro-Israel counterpoint (perhaps he will try to convince us that ISM activist Baltzer – who is Jewish – is meant to provide balance).

    And I thought Stewart’s was a comedy show.

    What if no one watched him?

    http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2009/10/jon-stewarts-disgraceful-guests.html#links


  49. snork
    49 | October 28, 2009 4:31 pm

    re: #41 by The Other Les

    Kountry Klub Kapos?


  50. Speranza
    50 | October 28, 2009 4:33 pm

    NJ deserves Corzine.


  51. 51 | October 28, 2009 4:33 pm

    re: #39 by common_sense

    0bama did not so much win as McCain conceded from the outset….

    It was excruciating.


  52. Sparky
    52 | October 28, 2009 4:34 pm

    Doug Hoffman can win and will act like the conservative republican we all had hoped for, let’s hope he wins and that Newt et al.. get the clue or get out of the way. I used to be against 3dr parties, now I see one party, with 2 speeds. The slow train wreck is harder to watch, they see it smile and don’t switch tracks.


  53. chickadee
    53 | October 28, 2009 4:34 pm

    re: #32 by common_sense

    Shep is that kid in grade school who everyone ran from when he appeared on he play ground.


  54. 54 | October 28, 2009 4:34 pm

    Hey Speranza!


  55. buzzsawmonkey
    55 | October 28, 2009 4:35 pm

    re: #45 by loppyd

    Too many candidates, when they “go to the mattresses,” just lie back and put their legs in the air.


  56. 56 | October 28, 2009 4:35 pm

    re: #55 by buzzsawmonkey

    LOL.

    True!


  57. Speranza
    57 | October 28, 2009 4:35 pm

    re: #45 by loppyd

    They really do need to go to the mattresses. There is a misconception that the public does not like to see street fighting in campaigns. The public wants to see their candidates whom they believe it stana up and fight and not act like namby-pamby squishes.


  58. chickadee
    58 | October 28, 2009 4:37 pm

    re: #52 by Sparky

    I heard an ad for Hoffman on Hannity today.
    He is running as the Conservative Republican.


  59. Speranza
    59 | October 28, 2009 4:37 pm

    re: #55 by buzzsawmonkey

    Yeah McCain sure did “give it up” like a girl at the prom eager to be popular.


  60. 60 | October 28, 2009 4:37 pm

    As CiJ states (by way of picture) Israel is simply the Canary in the Coalmine. HRC Now Going After U.S. for deliberately killing children…blah blah blah

    http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2009/10/human-rights-council-comes-after-united.html#links


  61. Speranza
    61 | October 28, 2009 4:37 pm

    re: #54 by loppyd

    Hey good looking!


  62. chickadee
    62 | October 28, 2009 4:38 pm

    re: #57 by Speranza

    I agree. If they won’t fight to win, they won’t fight for their beliefs and principles.


  63. Speranza
    63 | October 28, 2009 4:39 pm

    re: #38 by Nevergiveup

    I always (no offense) considered New Jersey to be “the stupid state”. Their governors (Rpeublican and Democrat) have been universally awful.


  64. buzzsawmonkey
    64 | October 28, 2009 4:41 pm

    “Go to the mattresses? I thought you said, ‘Go to your mistresses’!”


  65. Speranza
    65 | October 28, 2009 4:41 pm

    re: #62 by chickadee

    They remind me of the skinny kid with glasses who gets picked on in the school yard so he brings in an extra apple to buy the bullies off.


  66. snork
    66 | October 28, 2009 4:42 pm

    re: #45 by loppyd

    Since Newt got Newtered by Clinton in ‘95, he think that if he can’t beat ‘em, nobody can.

    I’m less than impressed by his queen sacrifice strategy.


  67. snork
    67 | October 28, 2009 4:43 pm

    re: #64 by buzzsawmonkey

    There’s a difference?


  68. Nevergiveup
    68 | October 28, 2009 4:44 pm

    re: #63 by Speranza

    No offense taken. I agree. I’m just stuck.


  69. 69 | October 28, 2009 4:44 pm

    s://snoring.


  70. Speranza
    70 | October 28, 2009 4:45 pm

    re: #51 by loppyd

    Definitely. McCain preferred to lose a close race and do so with “grace” so he could “look good” in History and still get favorable publicity in The New York Times. hey how did that work out for you Maverick? Also Maverick while I got your attention – get you blabber mouth daughter onto the treadmill and off the stage. She is stuck on stupid!


  71. common_sense
    71 | October 28, 2009 4:45 pm

    re: #51 by loppyd

    Hi loppyd !

    I remember you from 1.0


  72. chickadee
    72 | October 28, 2009 4:45 pm

    re: #45 by loppyd

    Hey loppyd,
    We need some calm, strong candidates who understand Conservative principles and that reach across the aisle metro-sexualism does not work in war or politics.
    That shit only works to fool lib gals into picking up the check on a date.


  73. Speranza
    73 | October 28, 2009 4:46 pm

    re: #68 by Nevergiveup

    NJ is made up of ex New Yorkers who forgot why they left NY and they vote for the same liberal politicians in New jersey that made New York such a effed up city and state.


  74. BBEV
    74 | October 28, 2009 4:47 pm

    I have to ask . How many here have been a campaign manager? I have been for a few people and what I will tell you is that if you are not willing to fight you will not win!


  75. Speranza
    75 | October 28, 2009 4:48 pm

    re: #72 by chickadee

    She got frustrated by the slow loading and took a brake. WE need to merge to the faster server quick.


  76. Truck Monkey
    76 | October 28, 2009 4:48 pm

    As an aside. I just ran through the swamp real quick and saw that Fenway Nation is speaking out against The Won. He is being properly (in their world anyway) downdinged as a result. He is taking on water and is about to drown in said swamp.


  77. chickadee
    77 | October 28, 2009 4:48 pm

    re: #65 by Speranza

    “so he brings in an extra apple to buy the bullies off”
    LOL ha ha ha ha


  78. 78 | October 28, 2009 4:49 pm

    re: #49 by snork

    Sure.


  79. Speranza
    79 | October 28, 2009 4:50 pm

    re: #76 by Truck Monkey

    Who is down dinging him?


  80. 80 | October 28, 2009 4:51 pm

    re: #8 by garycooper

    Yeah this muslim slime bastard killed the fbi dog. Guess that will get him 72 helen thomases


  81. 81 | October 28, 2009 4:53 pm

    re: #64 by buzzsawmonkey

    me to Im on my way


  82. chickadee
    82 | October 28, 2009 4:53 pm

    re: #80 by Grimcargo

    That FBI Canine Soldier is worth more than all their filthy Muslim lives.


  83. 83 | October 28, 2009 4:54 pm

    re: #71 by common_sense

    Hey there!


  84. snork
    84 | October 28, 2009 4:56 pm

    OT, but this is what’s being excoriated at the funny farm as “hate” for 1.0.

    Hey dingbats, they’re goofing on you. It’s called humor.

    What a bunch of sourpuss dweebs.


  85. 85 | October 28, 2009 4:56 pm

    re: #72 by chickadee

    Agreed!

    Conservatism wins when it is presented in a strong, thoughtful manner and not apologized for.


  86. Nevergiveup
    86 | October 28, 2009 4:57 pm

    re: #73 by Speranza

    Well somewhat, but we have our own homegrown idiots and morons here. Don’t sell us short now.


  87. 87 | October 28, 2009 4:58 pm

    re: #84 by snork

    Do NOT get me going on hate crime legislation.


  88. 88 | October 28, 2009 5:00 pm

    re: #86 by Nevergiveup

    Got your snacks lined up and beverages on ice for the game?


  89. Nevergiveup
    89 | October 28, 2009 5:00 pm

    Well here we go in game one. I’d rather be a lamppost in NYC than anything to do with Phillie–or something like that


  90. NoThreat2U
    90 | October 28, 2009 5:00 pm

    OMG!!! “It’s the Great Pumpkin, Charlie Brown” is on.

    Yes, I am seriously excited.


  91. Nevergiveup
    91 | October 28, 2009 5:01 pm

    re: #88 by loppyd

    Absolutely. Now I just gotta stay awake?


  92. Truck Monkey
    92 | October 28, 2009 5:01 pm

    re: #79 by Speranza

    Can’t tell because I am one of the banned.


  93. Speranza
    93 | October 28, 2009 5:02 pm

    re: #88 by loppyd

    I cant believe after hating the Phils last week I am pulling for them,


  94. 94 | October 28, 2009 5:02 pm

    re: #27 by WrathofG-d

    Christie is not calling Corzine out on his connections to Goldman Sachs. Sachs was one of the companies responsible for the Wall St meltdown. They are corrupt and Obama supporters. He has not attacked Corzine personally. McDonnell has attacked Deeds personally.


  95. snork
    95 | October 28, 2009 5:02 pm

    Ok, Cato, you’re a butthole, but this was funny:

    157 Cato the Elder Wed, Oct 28, 2009 4:46:15pm

    Testing…testing…is this thing on?

    “Islam sux.”

    Just to see if I get fined.

    Just a warning, Cato. You’re on that short list of persona non grata here, so if you get the stick, you’re marooned.

    And you wouldn’t want that. That I know.


  96. chickadee
    96 | October 28, 2009 5:03 pm

    re: #85 by loppyd

    That’s when it is irrefutable. Anyone with even a modicum of common sense has to agree with the basic principles.
    I tried it at a dinner party last week and it shut my lib friends up.


  97. Speranza
    97 | October 28, 2009 5:03 pm

    re: #92 by Truck Monkey

    Oh. I do not even feel like going over there. Must be Sharmuta leading the charge.


  98. Truck Monkey
    98 | October 28, 2009 5:03 pm

    re: #87 by loppyd

    Hate crimes as opposed to say….. love crimes?
    Some people are more equal than others it appears.


  99. snork
    99 | October 28, 2009 5:04 pm

    re: #87 by loppyd

    They all think it’s great at the funny farm.

    But the goofing on Chuck is in the comments on that. They’re not gentle.


  100. Speranza
    100 | October 28, 2009 5:04 pm

    re: #95 by snork

    Cato:

    Islam does suck but so do you!


  101. Iron Fist
    101 | October 28, 2009 5:04 pm

    re: #3 by song_and_dance_man

    The Republicans will not fight. This was McCain’s big problem. He was more concerned about saying nice things about Barack Obama than he was the vile shit people were saying about Palin. He hung her out to dry, and let the Leftists take all the free shots they wanted. Not McCain at his best.


  102. Nevergiveup
    102 | October 28, 2009 5:05 pm

    re: #93 by Speranza

    Now don’t make me put you on my shit list? It’s mostly filled with liberals
    /


  103. Nevergiveup
    103 | October 28, 2009 5:06 pm

    re: #95 by snork

    Now that’s funny


  104. 104 | October 28, 2009 5:06 pm

    re: #91 by Nevergiveup

    If it’s a good game you will.

    5 years ago yesterday, my beloved Red Sox won the World Series for the first time in 86 years.


  105. Empire1
    105 | October 28, 2009 5:08 pm

    re: #87 by loppyd

    I have a funny feeling we would agree about that.


  106. Truck Monkey
    106 | October 28, 2009 5:08 pm

    re: #95 by snork

    You wouldn’t want Cato over here to bat around? I think it would be fun. A better Nodrog so to speak.


  107. buzzsawmonkey
    107 | October 28, 2009 5:08 pm

    Maverick
    —dedicated to John McCain, with apologies to the TV show

    Who is the stumpy Senator there?
    “Maverick” is his claim
    On the campaign trail to nowhere
    Bipartisanship his object
    Compromise his game.

    Crossin’ the aisle is his style
    “Maverick” is his claim
    Don’t want anyone to be riled
    Let’s all be gentlemen
    Better to be tame.

    Half-hearted soft-sell!
    A conservative death-knell!
    Platitudes cut the heart from his campaign!
    Too genial to fight;
    If Obama wins, all right…
    “Maverick” is the claim of John McCain

    Half-hearted soft-sell!
    A conservative death-knell!
    Platitudes cut the heart from his campaign!
    Too genial to fight;
    If Obama wins, all right…
    “Maverick” is the claim of John McCain
    “Maverick” is the claim of John McCain


  108. Nevergiveup
    108 | October 28, 2009 5:08 pm

    re: #106 by Truck Monkey

    It’s just he is such a nasty little prick


  109. Speranza
    109 | October 28, 2009 5:08 pm

    re: #84 by snork

    Did I ever mention that the denizens of 1.0 are a bunch of humorless assholes led by asswhistle?


  110. chickadee
    110 | October 28, 2009 5:09 pm

    re: #101 by Iron Fist

    Weak people don’t have principles. . . at least principles you can count on. The way he treated Sarah was despicable.
    If we get anything from McCain at this point it will be a WTF moment.


  111. 111 | October 28, 2009 5:09 pm

    re: #96 by chickadee

    Good for you. I usually ask a series of questions and then tell the person they just voted for the conservative. :D


  112. snork
    112 | October 28, 2009 5:09 pm

    Uh-oh. The proprietor is not pleased:

    173 Charles Wed, Oct 28, 2009 4:49:21pm

    re: #120 The Sanity Inspector

    What the hell? Did you read the kind of comments you’re linking to at my site?

    Prolly some Popeye cartoon with a minstrel scene.


  113. coldwarrior
    113 | October 28, 2009 5:10 pm

    re: #106 by Truck Monkey

    he’d get a pretty bad reception here.


  114. Speranza
    114 | October 28, 2009 5:10 pm

    re: #107 by buzzsawmonkey

    You are one talented dude!


  115. snork
    115 | October 28, 2009 5:10 pm

    re: #106 by Truck Monkey

    I’m assuming that Savage wouldn’t want him, but it’s Savage’s sandbox.


  116. JamesTKirk
    116 | October 28, 2009 5:10 pm

    Did Schwarzenegger really tell San Francisco “Fuck You”?

    Yep. Heh heh.


  117. 117 | October 28, 2009 5:11 pm

    re: #105 by Empire1

    Tell the family of a murdered loved one that there was less hate involved in that crime than one of a gay person.


  118. Nevergiveup
    118 | October 28, 2009 5:11 pm

    Shit life is never easy. CC loading up the bases with 2 out


  119. Nevergiveup
    119 | October 28, 2009 5:12 pm

    re: #117 by loppyd

    Typical liberal bullshit


  120. Nevergiveup
    120 | October 28, 2009 5:12 pm

    re: #116 by JamesTKirk

    Personally I don’t think so, he ain’t that smart


  121. buzzsawmonkey
    121 | October 28, 2009 5:13 pm

    re: #114 by Speranza

    Thank you.

    The Folk Revival of the 1960s was one of the things which helped put the current gang in power. I’m trying to do my bit to reverse the process.


  122. Speranza
    122 | October 28, 2009 5:13 pm

    re: #111 by loppyd

    Bases loaded for Phils with 2 outs. Fat man is struggling


  123. Speranza
    123 | October 28, 2009 5:13 pm

    Damn ground out!


  124. 124 | October 28, 2009 5:14 pm

    Phillies just left the bases loaded. WTH


  125. Nevergiveup
    125 | October 28, 2009 5:14 pm

    re: #122 by Speranza

    That fat is the heft behind his fastball. All’s well that end’s well.


  126. Iron Fist
    126 | October 28, 2009 5:15 pm

    re: #110 by chickadee

    McCain should do the Party a favor and retire, and let a real Republican have his Senate Seat. He’s just using it as an asswarmer….


  127. Speranza
    127 | October 28, 2009 5:15 pm

    re: #117 by loppyd
    Murder is murder – the idea of quantifying it by going into someones head is ridiculous.


  128. Nevergiveup
    128 | October 28, 2009 5:15 pm

    Do you all see me behind home plate. I’m there. Well about 28 miles behind home plate, but I’m there.


  129. JamesTKirk
    129 | October 28, 2009 5:15 pm

    Personally I don’t think so, he ain’t that smart

    There’s no way you get the letters lined up like that unless you’re trying.


  130. Speranza
    130 | October 28, 2009 5:15 pm

    re: #126 by Iron Fist

    I wish J.D. Hayworth would run for Senator.


  131. Nevergiveup
    131 | October 28, 2009 5:16 pm

    re: #126 by Iron Fist

    Yeah but at this point he ain’t our biggest problem. Lets take Virginia, NJ, and that district in Upstate NY first!


  132. Truck Monkey
    132 | October 28, 2009 5:16 pm

    re: #117 by loppyd

    Assigning the hate moniker to crimes scares me. Very Orwellian. How does anyone but the perp know what’s going on in their mind when they are perpetrating their crime? Why does it need to be broken down further?


  133. 133 | October 28, 2009 5:16 pm

    re: #119 by Nevergiveup

    I’ve heard the ridiculous argument that a crime against someone who is gay has more victims than just, you know, the actual victim.


  134. Speranza
    134 | October 28, 2009 5:16 pm

    re: #125 by Nevergiveup

    7 years from now when he is in the final year of his contract – what is he going to look like?


  135. Nevergiveup
    135 | October 28, 2009 5:17 pm

    re: #129 by JamesTKirk

    Maybe one of his kids did it?


  136. 136 | October 28, 2009 5:17 pm

    re: #69 by WrathofG-d

    I will present more proof when I return. I’m going to bar to watch the world Series.


  137. 137 | October 28, 2009 5:17 pm

    re: #132 by Truck Monkey

    I agree. I’d like to see it challenged.


  138. Nevergiveup
    138 | October 28, 2009 5:18 pm

    re: #134 by Speranza

    He will look a whole lot richer than me and you


  139. 139 | October 28, 2009 5:18 pm

    re: #136 by Rodan

    Have fun! Tip your bartender well. :D


  140. Speranza
    140 | October 28, 2009 5:19 pm

    re: #133 by loppyd

    My heterosexual cousin who was murdered in June 1970 as a 17 year old would beg to differ if he could. He was stabbed to death by a “person of color” so could I claim that it was a hate crime too?


  141. Speranza
    141 | October 28, 2009 5:19 pm

    re: #138 by Nevergiveup

    That he will. But he might spontaneously combust if he gets any heftier.


  142. chickadee
    142 | October 28, 2009 5:19 pm

    re: #117 by loppyd

    They can only infer a level of requisite “hate” from aspects of the victim as a special victim.
    This is bullshit feel good p.c.crap.


  143. typicalwhitey
    143 | October 28, 2009 5:20 pm

    HAHAHAA!

    159 Fenway_Nation
    Wed, Oct 28, 2009 4:46:42pm replyquote 5downupreport

    Oh noes! I managed to make the bottom 10 comments thanks in large part to some lizards I’ve enver even heard of

    /boo freakin’ hoo

    He is on a roll tonight!


  144. song_and_dance_man
    144 | October 28, 2009 5:20 pm

    re: #101 by Iron Fist

    And that is a real pisser when McCain must have known who B. Hussein was and yet had nice things to say about him. He should have stepped up and told the truth. I refuse to believe he had no real knowledge of his nemesis or his background.

    I would really like to know what Cackle found in those 900 + FBI files that appeared on her assistants desk that no one to this day knows how they got there.


  145. 145 | October 28, 2009 5:20 pm

    re: #140 by Speranza

    No. It was a crime. A hateful, disgusting crime that stole a life.

    But not a hate crime.


  146. JamesTKirk
    146 | October 28, 2009 5:20 pm

    I’ve heard the ridiculous argument that a crime against someone who is gay has more victims than just, you know, the actual victim.

    So does any other murder where relatives, parents, children, friends, etc. are left behind.


  147. Truck Monkey
    147 | October 28, 2009 5:20 pm

    re: #134 by Speranza

    Jabba the Hut?


  148. buzzsawmonkey
    148 | October 28, 2009 5:22 pm

    You may wish to call it “hate crime”
    But no—you must resist
    It cannot be a “hate crime”
    If your group’s not on the list.


  149. 149 | October 28, 2009 5:22 pm

    re: #142 by chickadee

    I’m thinking of the jury instructions a judge would have to give and I’m seeing all kinds of issues for appeal.


  150. typicalwhitey
    150 | October 28, 2009 5:22 pm

    cj is rewwy rewwy maaaad

    173 Charles
    Wed, Oct 28, 2009 4:49:21pm replyquote 5downupreport

    re: #120 The Sanity Inspector

    What the hell? Did you read the kind of comments you’re linking to at my site?


  151. 151 | October 28, 2009 5:22 pm

    re: #146 by JamesTKirk

    ‘zactly.


  152. JamesTKirk
    152 | October 28, 2009 5:22 pm

    And that is a real pisser when McCain must have known who B. Hussein was and yet had nice things to say about him. He should have stepped up and told the truth. I refuse to believe he had no real knowledge of his nemesis or his background.

    McCain wasn’t even trying to win. Why should I care about his candidacy when he didn’t even give a rat’s ass about it? He couldn’t have thrown the election more deliberately to Obama if he had tried.

    I would really like to know what Cackle found in those 900 + FBI files that appeared on her assistants desk that no one to this day knows how they got there.

    Unfortunately, since Obama was still an inexperienced nobody back then (unlike the great statesman he was in 2008), it’s highly doubtful that Obama’s was one of the files she stole… Otherwise she might have been able to put up more of a fight.


  153. Truck Monkey
    153 | October 28, 2009 5:23 pm

    re: #143 by typicalwhitey

    Fenway come on over to sanity. I don’t know why any self respecting thinking person could stay over there and be insulted by the host and his flying butt monkeys. I don’t get it. I really don’t.


  154. Nevergiveup
    154 | October 28, 2009 5:25 pm

    re: #153 by Truck Monkey

    People from Boston sometimes think differently than many of us. Just saying. And shit CC looks like shit so far tonight


  155. Speranza
    155 | October 28, 2009 5:25 pm

    Two morons. I guess if Obama does what is obviously the right thing to do we got to kiss his ass.

    188 Cato the Elder Wed, Oct 28, 2009 4:53:19pm replyquote

    * 3
    * down
    * up
    * report

    People who thought Obama would cave on this defamation of Islam shite – what’s the explanation for the outcome? Is it some triple-crossing socialist Alinskyite trick? Or does he maybe really believe in the first amendment?
    189 The Sanity Inspector Wed, Oct 28, 2009 4:53:25pm replyquote

    * 0
    * down
    * up
    * report

    What the hell? Did you read the kind of comments you’re linking to at my site?

    I apologize: I forgot about what a mess that comment thread became. Here’s a direct link to the NPR story.


  156. 156 | October 28, 2009 5:26 pm

    re: #154 by Nevergiveup

    Ahem. I’m still here you know…. :)


  157. Nevergiveup
    157 | October 28, 2009 5:26 pm

    By the way attaching the Gay hate crime shit to a defense bill is chicken shit


  158. JamesTKirk
    158 | October 28, 2009 5:28 pm

    By the way attaching the Gay hate crime shit to a defense bill is chicken shit

    Was there any actual defense included in the defense bill?


  159. Nevergiveup
    159 | October 28, 2009 5:29 pm

    re: #156 by loppyd

    Yeah I know. But you are a Red Sox fan after all? Actually some of my best friends are from Bosto….actually not really I stayed at a Holiday Inn once in Boston? Actuall since I am seem to be spending a fair amount of time between New London and New port, I should watch what I say ha?


  160. Nevergiveup
    160 | October 28, 2009 5:30 pm

    re: #158 by JamesTKirk

    Well a 3.4% raise for me if that counts


  161. Truck Monkey
    161 | October 28, 2009 5:31 pm

    re: #158 by JamesTKirk

    Defense of gay marriage. Defense of gays/muslims vis a vis hate crimes.


  162. Nevergiveup
    162 | October 28, 2009 5:32 pm

    Well now for some good news:

    A man described as a leader of a radical Sunni Islam group in the U.S. was fatally shot Wednesday afternoon while resisting arrest and exchanging gunfire with federal agents, authorities said.

    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,570146,00.html


  163. song_and_dance_man
    163 | October 28, 2009 5:33 pm

    re: #152 by JamesTKirk

    Oh she knew. I suspect her and Wet rue that day when they invited him to be the Keynote Speaker at the 2004 DNC shindig. They took a seat in the back of the bus after the fact, but still what they believe moved forward without them. Cackle Rodham has a post in the B. Hussein admin. Now how about that for humble pie eats?


  164. JamesTKirk
    164 | October 28, 2009 5:33 pm

    Well a 3.4% raise for me if that counts

    Better than nothing, but probably less than the coming stagflation.

    Did the bill also define “killing American soldiers” as a hate crime, or is that still just fine and jim-dandy with the Zero?


  165. chickadee
    165 | October 28, 2009 5:34 pm

    re: #144 by song_and_dance_man

    Remember that old lady in red at the town hall meeting who said she was scared of Zero because he was an Arab?
    Remember how McCain grabbed the mic from her so fast and yelled, “NO HE’S NOT. He’s a good family man.”
    LOL What dancing on thin ice to be seen as a nice guy.

    McCain also bitched out Billy Cunningham for mentioning Zero’s “MIDDLE NAME” at a fund raiser.
    McCain admonished the jovial crowd: “We’re NOT going to do that here.”
    And then of course when Zero won, it was:
    Barack HUSSEIN Obama mmmmm mmmmm mmmmm at his swearing in.

    McCain is an old fool. I do think he is a war hero.
    I thank him for that. But we need conservatives who don’t apologize for the best approach humanity could hope for.


  166. song_and_dance_man
    166 | October 28, 2009 5:34 pm

    Are gays hating again? Pork any Bill to stop that.


  167. JamesTKirk
    167 | October 28, 2009 5:35 pm

    McCain is an old fool. I do think he is a war hero.

    It’s possible to honor what a man WAS while still cursing what a man IS.

    Like former marine Murtha. Former astronaut John Glenn. Etc.


  168. Nevergiveup
    168 | October 28, 2009 5:35 pm

    It’s pouring at Yankee Stadium


  169. Nevergiveup
    169 | October 28, 2009 5:36 pm

    re: #167 by JamesTKirk

    What has Glenn done other than being a democrat?


  170. JamesTKirk
    170 | October 28, 2009 5:38 pm

    Glenn was one of the corrupt Congresscritters during the S&L bailouts of the 80s.

    Glenn was one of the Dems running cover for Clinton during his scandals and impeachment, for which he was rewarded with another trip to space.

    He’s not just a Democrat, he’s a corrupt, lying, weasely Democrat. But then, I repeat myself.


  171. Speranza
    171 | October 28, 2009 5:38 pm

    re: #167 by JamesTKirk

    John Glenn was not a bad guy.


  172. buzzsawmonkey
    172 | October 28, 2009 5:39 pm

    I remember telling people during the campaign that I was voting for the Democrat—McCain. That led to some interesting exchanges.

    One is perfectly capable of being both a war hero and a lousy Senator.


  173. Speranza
    173 | October 28, 2009 5:39 pm

    re: #170 by JamesTKirk

    Glenn actually was pretty moderate in the 1980’s. SA for the S & L stuff, I did not know about that.


  174. Speranza
    174 | October 28, 2009 5:40 pm

    re: #172 by buzzsawmonkey

    ‘One is perfectly capable of being both a war hero and a lousy Senator.”

    George McGovern is a perfect example.


  175. 175 | October 28, 2009 5:40 pm

    re: #159 by Nevergiveup

    Keep it up….


  176. 176 | October 28, 2009 5:41 pm

    re: #174 by Speranza

    and John Kerry is an example of being neither…


  177. Nevergiveup
    177 | October 28, 2009 5:42 pm

    re: #170 by JamesTKirk

    Well Glenn is not really one of my favorites, but I think he was mainly cleared of that S&L thing. Yeah he was a Democrat and should have spoken up about Clinton’s disgusting behavior, but he was better than most. Anyway, he is out of Office, so I got bigger fish to fry


  178. 178 | October 28, 2009 5:42 pm

    Sweet Lord

    Grayson Cries on House Floor Over the Uninsured
    October 28, 2009, 8:29 P.M.
    Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) broke down in tears several times on the House floor Wednesday afternoon as he read letters from people who said their loved ones died because they were uninsured. Full

    I don’t have a Hill membership, but I’ll look for links.


  179. Nevergiveup
    179 | October 28, 2009 5:43 pm

    re: #175 by loppyd

    I’m only kidding mostly. And I do keep my mouth shut in when I am up your way on duty


  180. Speranza
    180 | October 28, 2009 5:44 pm

    re: #176 by loppyd

    Kerry who slandered his comrades … well that is something that he will have to answer for one day to a higher power.


  181. 181 | October 28, 2009 5:45 pm

    Oops I meant Roll Call, but I don’t have a membership there either.


  182. 182 | October 28, 2009 5:45 pm

    re: #179 by Nevergiveup

    No worries. I’m just playing…


  183. Speranza
    183 | October 28, 2009 5:45 pm

    re: #178 by loppyd

    Alan Grayson – The …Worst…Person…In…The…World


  184. 184 | October 28, 2009 5:47 pm

    re: #180 by Speranza

    Indeed.


  185. 185 | October 28, 2009 5:48 pm

    re: #183 by Speranza

    No word on whether he was wearing his poo brown shirt and pink tie ensemble.


  186. 186 | October 28, 2009 5:50 pm

    Pedro Martinez regrets tossing Don Zimmer to ground in 2003

    http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/baseball/other_mlb/view/20091028pedro_martinez_regrets_tossing_don_zimmer_to_ground_in_2003/srvc=home&position=recent

    Petey going soft.


  187. Speranza
    187 | October 28, 2009 5:50 pm

    re: #185 by loppyd

    He sort of looks like Oliver Stone with that space between his teeth.


  188. Speranza
    188 | October 28, 2009 5:51 pm

    Homerun Utley!


  189. 189 | October 28, 2009 5:51 pm

    And Utley goes yard!!!!


  190. Speranza
    190 | October 28, 2009 5:52 pm

    re: #186 by loppyd

    Zimmer attacked him. It as self defense.


  191. song_and_dance_man
    191 | October 28, 2009 5:53 pm

    re: #165 by chickadee

    That was one big dish of Humble Pie, and it was delicious to the Left base. All is forgiven, so it seems, and B. Hussein won their political bellies but not their hearts.

    Cackle and Wet may have their hats in hand, courtesy of B. Hussein, but I suspect 2012 will try this homegrown nuisance


  192. Speranza
    192 | October 28, 2009 5:53 pm

    re: #189 by loppyd

    Again I hate the Phils for what they did to my Dodgers but anyone but the Yankees!


  193. 193 | October 28, 2009 5:53 pm

    Nice commercial….


  194. BBEV
    194 | October 28, 2009 5:59 pm

    re: #143 by typicalwhitey

    “”"159 Fenway_Nation
    Wed, Oct 28, 2009 4:46:42pm replyquote 5downupreport

    Oh noes! I managed to make the bottom 10 comments thanks in large part to some lizards I’ve enver even heard of”"”

    Take it from me. It’s time for you to come over here.


  195. BBEV
    195 | October 28, 2009 6:04 pm

    Fenway_Nation if yoour reading this . I made all of the bottom 10 one night and I knew it was time for me to go.


  196. song_and_dance_man
    196 | October 28, 2009 6:04 pm

    re: #194 by BBEV

    1.0 has changed since I was last there. I had no idea one could go to the bottom of a 10 comment list. So glad I missed the digression.


  197. Speranza
    197 | October 28, 2009 6:06 pm

    re: #196 by song_and_dance_man

    “1.0 has changed since I was last there. I had no idea one could go to the bottom of a 10 comment list. So glad I missed the digression.”

    Yeah they are real mature over there.


  198. BBEV
    198 | October 28, 2009 6:07 pm

    re: #196 by song_and_dance_man

    Ya I mage all 10 of them one night and I did nothing. I was just trying to defend myself.


  199. BBEV
    199 | October 28, 2009 6:08 pm

    mage,,, PIMF,, made


  200. snork
    200 | October 28, 2009 6:08 pm

    re: #196 by song_and_dance_man

    I missed out on so much by leaving before that ding-a-ling thing was installed. I feel deprived.


  201. BBEV
    201 | October 28, 2009 6:11 pm

    re: #200 by snork

    You missed nothing. I was against the ding thing from the beginning


  202. snork
    202 | October 28, 2009 6:12 pm

    re: #201 by BBEV

    That was sarcasm.


  203. BBEV
    203 | October 28, 2009 6:13 pm

    re: #202 by snork

    I know


  204. 204 | October 28, 2009 6:13 pm

    re: #195 by BBEV

    I had plenty in my waning days as well.

    It cracked me up, actually.


  205. song_and_dance_man
    205 | October 28, 2009 6:14 pm

    re: #197 by Speranza

    It’s like Romper Room at 1.0, only worse.


  206. buzzsawmonkey
    206 | October 28, 2009 6:15 pm

    re: #205 by song_and_dance_man

    No, it’s not like Romper Room. On Romper Room, they stressed teaching you to play fair.


  207. 207 | October 28, 2009 6:15 pm

    Well, it’s time for me to get my life in order and get some sleep.

    Have a good night, all.


  208. song_and_dance_man
    208 | October 28, 2009 6:16 pm

    re: #198 by BBEV

    That was your cause célèbre and they wanted none of that.


  209. BBEV
    209 | October 28, 2009 6:16 pm

    re: #204 by loppyd

    “”"I had plenty in my waning days as well.

    It cracked me up, actually.”"”

    I hear ya, Charles is like fighting with my moonbat family now. All I can do is laugh at them.


  210. 210 | October 28, 2009 6:16 pm

    re: #209 by BBEV

    Pass the popcorn!

    Really gone now.

    Lataaah


  211. BBEV
    211 | October 28, 2009 6:17 pm

    re: #207 by loppyd

    Me too shortly, have a good night


  212. BBEV
    212 | October 28, 2009 6:20 pm

    re: #208 by song_and_dance_man

    I think you missed most of my fights protecting Catholics.


  213. song_and_dance_man
    213 | October 28, 2009 6:21 pm

    re: #206 by buzzsawmonkey

    OK then it is this


  214. BBEV
    214 | October 28, 2009 6:23 pm

    Hey song_and_dance_man have a good night, time for bed


  215. song_and_dance_man
    215 | October 28, 2009 6:24 pm

    re: #212 by BBEV

    Yeah, that was missed. Glad you missed my dust ups with Miguel.


  216. tuffy
    216 | October 28, 2009 7:21 pm

    re: #90 by NoThreat2U

    I LOVE that cartoon. Shoot. I missed it. :(


  217. tuffy
    217 | October 28, 2009 7:28 pm

    re: #107 by buzzsawmonkey

    NICE WORK! I’m hearing a country themed tune to it with alof of twang, “If Obama wins, ALL RIIIGHT”!


  218. tuffy
    218 | October 28, 2009 7:30 pm

    re: #126 by Iron Fist
    LOL. True that. McCain pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease gooooooooooooo awaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyy.


  219. mfhorn
    219 | October 28, 2009 8:12 pm

    Republicans just don’t get it.


  220. Aussie Infidel
    220 | October 28, 2009 8:53 pm

    Idiots get the government they deserve.

    A basic law of the Universe!

    :)


  221. Jim
    221 | October 28, 2009 11:03 pm

    re: #101 by Iron Fist

    George Bush rarely fought back too. It was infuriating to watch. I’ll bet if Bush showed some backbone and bitch slapped a few of his detractors, the republicans wouldn’t have such a low approval among the voters.


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