The Totalitarian Progressives, who have this nation in a stranglehold, are planning to ram the Public Option down our throats. Their claim is that the Public Option will force Health Insurance companies to lower prices. This is absolutely false since the insurers don’t make big profits anyway. In reality, the goal is to collapse the Health Industry and leave the government as a single payer.
WASHINGTON — In the health care debate, the “public plan” is all things to all people. For supporters, it would discipline greedy private insurers and make health coverage affordable. For detractors, it’s a way station on the path to a single-payer insurance system of government-run health care. In reality, the public plan is mostly an exercise in political avoidance: It pretends to control costs and improve access to quality care when it doesn’t.
As originally conceived by Yale political scientist Jacob Hacker, the public plan would be a government-created, nonprofit insurance company providing Medicare-like coverage to the under-65 population. But unlike Medicare, benefits would be paid for mainly by premiums — not taxes. Americans could buy coverage from the public plan or a private insurer.
Read the rest.
The Obamacare proposal is about one thing. It is about control. This will give the Progressives a decision over who lives or dies. Progressives are supporters of Eugenics which includes mandatory abortions and euthanizing the old. After what we see with Obama trying to silence Fox news and the Chamber of Commerce, do you really trust these Totalitarian Radical Leftists with your life? I sure don’t and neither do most Americans!
Tags: Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi
Yup. Once the Gov gave the “freebie” of the Tarp money to the Corporations, etc., owned them. Now the Gov gets to tell those Corporations what to sell, what to buy, how much to make, etc.
What do you think will happen exactly once we are all bought by this “free” money?
Just like the Corporations, our greed is getting the best of us, and we are not thinking of the long term issues about what happens once we owe our Health care to the Government.
If you think they aren’t going to begin telling us what we can eat, do, etc., you are fooling yourself.
The first hit is always free…
How many times will they lie to us before even the morons who voted for him get pissed?
re: #1 by WrathofG-d
You nailed it!
re: #3 by Rodan
You would think that a generation of drug users (and their drug using children) would understand this concept.
I would add how shocked I am that through this debacle We The People have learned that our President, and most of our Congresspeople aren’t even going to read the Bill they are going to force on us, nor are they going to be bound by it……
Yet, this isn’t the story, and hasn’t caused a revolution.
Oh wait…was that a boy in a balloon?….
Yup Wrath. We will have no option but the government. What will we be then? I posit that we will be no better than indentured servents.
[Sigh]
Me and the girlfriend are fighting. She thinks people can make a difference. I know better. I’m the dude with the PoliSci degree. I know this shit. Everyone agrees throw the sons of bitches out. Everyone agrees with that. They just don’t want to throw their son of a bitch out.
Pork buys votes. Period.
Until you change that, you won’t change anything. Pork buys votes.
Give me a billion in pork, and I can get me elected somewhere. One billion in pork for a seat in congress. That is just the way it is.
Prove me wrong.
Fox News: How’s that shit sandwich taste Obama voters?
MSNBC: That’s not shit, that’s steak.
Fox News: Tastes like shit.
MSNBC: Mmmmmm Mmmmmm Mmmmmm.
OMG!!11TY!!
PONIES!!11TY!!
You know, I might feor real fight for Paqlin. She lives what she says, and lives by what she says.
Yeah, I might indeed fight for that…
[Blood and steel]
Shit, where are you people? Did I scare everyone away?
re: #5 by Truck Monkey
The Liberals aren’t safe from this either. Lest them fool themselves.
Once a Republican Government gets into power, and they own us through a Gov Everything Care system, they can be assured that the Gov is going to quickly work through the Health Care System to outlaw Marijuana use, and other health risk behaviors (loved by Liberals). All for the public health, financial responsibility, and overall public general welfare.
We will often hear “it is just too costly to allow all of those in the plan (ie: everyone) to do X, or Y. We MUST curtail their personal liberty, and we can because we “have” to.
This sword cuts both ways, but in the end ALL citizens lose.
I hear the Harry Reid now proposes to let states ‘opt out’ of the coming single payer system.
I wonder, will the states also be allowed to ‘opt out’ of paying for the nationwide system?
re: #11 by WrathofG-d
True dat. The libtards simply don’t understand the basic laws of ….. well, everything.
re: #7 by kansas
Now that’s funny. True but funny
22:41 Meretz MK: Netanyahu gov`t shunning of J Street is damaging to Israel (Haaretz)
Ah bullshit!
re: #13 by Truck Monkey
Maybe this is a good thing from a Social Conservative p.o.v.
I’m sure I could very quickly come up with numerous issues that are just too costly on a National Health Care level.
Abortion, Drug Use, Drug Treatment Programs, Condom Distribution, Pre-martial sex, Adultery (psychological treatment thereafter), pornography….
re: #12 by razorbacker
Nope, the citizens lose on that one. They’ll still have to pay.
The fact that the majority of Americans oppose the Public Option means nothing to these guys.
Promoting competition is a ruse, health insureres compete now.
That states may opt out is another ruse. This new public entity will be so awash in cash & corruption,that all the pols will wnat in.
You all are fucking with me ain’t ya? I ain’t been drinking none, really…
re: #12 by razorbacker
Heh. Yes, you can opt out of the plan, but you can’t opt out of paying for it!
Just like you can “opt out” of public schools or any other “benefit.”
This is not what the majority of Americans want. That does not matter to the libs, as they (and some Repubs) believe they know what’s best for us all.
Never mind that they couldn’t find their own ass with both hands and a map, they think they can effectively administrate something that involves every man, woman, and child whether here legally or not.
So, no matter what they will say, their willing accomplices in the drive by media will nod their bobble-heads in unison, never questioning them about the details of what they will pass.
Because the libs are so treacherous and do not have the testicular or ovarian fortitude to stand and face the American people, and tell the them truth, they will have to add portions of this heinous legislation under the cover of darkness.
The cowards will lie to the American people, because in the arena of ideas, libs cannot compete. They pull the same pages from the tired lib playbook over and over again. They cannot speak the truth about their nefarious plans and therefore must lie about their intentions because they know the American people would never fall for such nonsense.
Despite what some long-haired cycle enthusiast in smoggy LA thinks, those people who attended the tea parties (myself included), are not racists, white supremacists, paulians, troofers, birfers, nirthers, etc.
They are people from both sides of the ideological aisle, and from all walks of life, who are tired of having our government spend every cent we have, and then borrow even more to spend that. They believe that government is not the solution, but the problem itself.
They’re tired, and they’re pissed off, and they’re not goint to take it anymore. Come next Novemeber, there will be some definite change coming. Change we can believe in.
Fear not, for the charges of ejecting the libs from congress en masse are baseless, no matter how loud and long the drive bys scream racism.
Change can be a good thing.
re: #20 by wolfie
Hey were do I sign up for opting out of paying taxes?
re: #8 by Iron Fist
They had several of those at the gun show I went to Saturday.
re: #22 by Nevergiveup
You don’t have to pay taxes. Haven’t you heard? Reid says that it’s a ‘voluntary’ system.
Good luck with that.
re: #24 by razorbacker
I wonder if Bernie Madoff has a room mate yet?
re: #21 by Rightside
Amen! Nicely said.
re: #23 by Rightside
Damn, I want one of those so bad. I can’t afford it. If I had the money (I don’t), there are better weapons to spend it on. But it is a Thompson. That makes all the difference in the world. If I were going to go out the cash a legal machinegun runs it would either be a Thompson or something that feeds from a belt.
Otherwise, I’ll buy the semi-auto and deal with the little limitations…
re: #22 by Nevergiveup
Depends where you are. There’s a place called Leavenworth in Kansas, but I’m a lot closer to Lorton in Va.
re: #6 by Iron Fist
I want to throw my son-of-a-bitch out. Anybody want a well used moonbat congressman? He’s been to Baghdad and sucked Saddam’s dick, and everything.
Well, you can tell by the way I use my talk,
We gotta pass health care–no time to balk
Who cares if the money can be found?
You’re in for a penny, you’re in for a pound
And now it’s all right, it’s OK
I won, so it’s gonna be all my way
Don’t bother tryin’ to understand
Just trust yourself to the government hand
Whether it’s your brother or whether it’s your mother
Trying stayin’ alive, stayin’ alive.
With our ration we’ll determine in our own fashion
If they’re stayin’ alive, stayin’ alive.
Ah, ha, ha, ha, stayin’ alive, stayin’ alive.
Ah, ha, ha, ha, stayin’ alive
—apologies to the Bee Gees
re: #22 by Nevergiveup
Hey were do I sign up for opting out of paying taxes?
Right at the front gate of Leavenworth.
Obama wants more, not less.
re: #22 by Nevergiveup
Request to be a cabinet member of this administration, or congressman. They don’t have to pay them.
re: #29 by snork
I’ll trade you him for my Senator. He has been dead for 5 years now but nobody has told him yet since he is filthy rich.
re: #29 by snork
Got a window? Congresscritters bounce…
re: #25 by Nevergiveup
I think that it happened pretty much instantly.
Is anyone else disturbed by the idea that a government that can’t get the H1N1 flu shots to the populace wants to take total control of the nation’s health care system?
Man, I don’t see what possibly could go wrong with that plan.
re: #27 by Iron Fist
They had no drums, but I am sure those can be found.
I would love to have one of those too. Even a semi-auto .45ACP would be awesome!
Don’t apologize to them. That, IMHO, is a hell of a lot better than the original.
re: #36 by razorbacker
Yes, and that they are giving some of the vaccines to other countries as well. I believe I read something about that earlier, but can’t remember where, so don’t hold me to it.
re: #30 by buzzsawmonkey
Nice!
re: #37 by Rightside
Beautiful weapon. When I was a kid, they busted a CCI jailor selling full-auto 1927 Thompsons out of the prison. A bunch of weapons that had been sitting in storage for decades. They caught him when a couple of them turned up in criminal activity.
I was heartbroken when I heard the news. Why couldn’t I have know him…
re: #26 by wolfie
Thanks!
re: #30 by buzzsawmonkey
Let me tell you
How it will be.
There’s one for you,
Nineteen for me,
‘Cause I’m the taxman.
Yeah, I’m the taxman.
Should five percent
Appear too small,
Be thankful I don’t
Take it all.
‘Cause I’m the taxman.
Yeah, I’m the taxman.
If you drive a car,
I’ll tax the street.
If you drive to city,
I’ll tax your seat.
If you get too cold,
I’ll tax the heat.
If you take a walk,
I’ll tax your feet.
Taxman!
‘Cause I’m the taxman.
Yeah, I’m the taxman.
Don’t ask me what I want it for,
If you don’t want to pay some more.
‘Cause I’m the taxman.
Yeah, I’m the taxman.
And my advice to
Those who die.
Declare the pennies
On your eyes.
‘Cause I’m the taxman.
Yeah, I’m the taxman,
And you’re working for no one but me.
re: #43 by WrathofG-d
Beatles, yes?
re: #44 by buzzsawmonkey
Bugs…
re: #44 by buzzsawmonkey
Yes.
No chang’in needed.
Maybe the Libs should turn off “imagine” for a sec, and listen to some other Beatles Albums…
re: #41 by Iron Fist
I still want a plain old M-14. 7.62, iron sights. In the hands of a skilled marksman, a devastating rifle.
re: #46 by WrathofG-d CONT
Ok, I know “Imagine” wasn’t technically a Beatles album.
re: #47 by Rightside
I’m wanting a 6.8 M-4. I saw a LWRC 6.8 M-4 over the weekend for less than two grand. A good, fair price for the weapon.
Right now, I’d be lucky to scare up $50. Wah. One day…
Before the Campaign Obama was on record as favoring a single payer system . Dem congress people Jan Shankowski & Barney Frank are open about it. Public option is the segue.
With government controlled health care you get effiicacy panels, in this case what the Administration refers to as the Committeee.
This entity will set the guidelines for appropriate care & when even life saving care will be denied due to expense & age etc.
That sounds like Sarah Palin’s Death Panels, becuse actually it is.
re: #22 by Nevergiveup
If you find out, let me know!
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/
Interesting statistics.
Seems to be an emergency situation with few participants, so far.
As I understand it, over 30,000 people in the U.S. die of the regular old types of flu every year.
re: #48 by WrathofG-d
Did you know about this? I don’t know why, but the Girlfriend had looked that up. Thought you might like it…
I’m still trying to wrap my arms around how Obama believes health care must be done immediately, and yet we flail in Afganistan and lack a clear strategy and support. If the president wants so badly to “save lives”, he should start with our military.
re: #46 by WrathofG-d
I got yer Beatles right here:
I Am the POTUS
- –for Obama’s 100 days, with apologies to John Lennon
I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together.
See how I’ll come to restrict the guns you flock to buy.
I’m trying.
Setting up a conference, handing out apologies.
Corporation bailout, stupid Republicans,
Man, you been a naughty boy, you wrote torture memos.
I am the begman, they are the bagmen.
I am the POTUS, goo goo g’joob.
Mister Ahmedinejad sitting
Li’l jihadis sitting in a row.
See how they try for missiles in the sky, see how they bomb.
I’m trying, I’m trying. I’m trying, I’m trying.
Get a Portuguese dog, the apple of my children’s eye.
Kiss up to the Euros, shake hands with dictators
Send Hillary here and there and all around the town.
I am the begman, they are the bagmen.
I am the POTUS, goo goo g’joob.
Sitting in the White House garden signing stimulus.
Recovery don’t come, I have a plan
For everyone to be re-trained.
I am the begman, they are the bagmen.
I am the POTUS, goo goo g’joob g’goo goo g’joob.
Expert taxplan, taxing smokers,
And we’ll confiscate your lightbulbs too
Policy is made upon a cap and trade
And biofuels.
I’m trying.
Such selective grants made, helping consolidate power.
ACORN in the census, trying to reapportion
Man, you should have seen the way the voting rosters grow.
I am the begman, they are the bagmen.
I am the POTUS, goo goo g’joob g’goo goo g’joob.
Goo goo g’joob g’goo goo g’joob g’goo.
re: #50 by RIX
They want a single payer so they can have a single refuser. One arbiter of life and death, all for a fee…
re: #47 by Rightside
re: #41 by Iron Fist
I still want a plain old M-14. 7.62, iron sights. In the hands of a skilled marksman, a devastating rifle.
You could bury that puppy in sand, come back a week later, dig it up & it would fire.
re: #54 by blueiris
Victory is not his goal. He knows exactly what he is doing…
re: #49 by Iron Fist
Like this one?
re: #56 by Iron Fist
Yeah, Palin was not wrong. Everywhere you have single payer you have the panels that she spoke of.
re: #57 by RIX
So would an H&K. So would any good FAL (so many manufacturers that there has to be variances in quality). The AR/M platform has a bad rep from shit that happened before I was born. A new M-4 seems to handle Iraq well, although I’ll gladly defer to anyone who has been there and can tell me better…
Nothing wrong with an M-14. But there are pleanty of good weapons out there. I want one of each of them…
re: #53 by Iron Fist
Click my underlined name. That is actually where I get my “nic” from.
Despite what most say…..
re: #54 by blueiris
Racing to pass healthcare is an effort to remake the economy beyond the possibility of backtrack before taxes start coming due.
re: #57 by RIX
Damn right, one durable weapon.
re: #63 by buzzsawmonkey
Very true
re: #58 by Iron Fist
Yes, all that BS about Afganistan being the “good war” and then now it’s like, screw ‘em, we’ve got health care to pass (that nobody wants! In a terrible economy!) I try and stay away from conspiracy theories, but I’m left with two choices re: Obama: evil or stupid. I guess I gotta go with evil.
re: #62 by WrathofG-d
That could be how it turned up on the computer. I tried clicking “back” and there was nothing, though…
Cool
“”Now, don’t get me wrong, the people I meet in small towns and big cities and diners and office parks, they don’t expect government to solves all of their problems. They know they have to work hard to get a head. And they want to.
Go into the collar counties around Chicago, and people will tell you: They don’t want their tax money wasted by a welfare agency or by the Pentagon.”"
Barack Hussein Obama, 2004 Democratic Convention
LIAR!
re: #68 by IslandLibertarian
mmm mmm mmm
re: #59 by Rightside
What I want (as long as we are on what I want) is a Rock River upper with the half-quad fore-end a flat top, and an Aimpoint on top. On a S&W lower with a Magpul CTR stock. I’m torn on whether or not I want a mil-spec receiver extension. I know the technical difference (the civillian is a little thinner but a little broader, while the mil-speck is thicker and smaller), but don’t know the practical difference, if any…
As long as I am wishing. The LWRC is out of the price range for the foreseeable future. If I were going to go there, a Barrett ain’t that much more (OK, another grand…)…
…
re: #53 by Iron Fist
I believe the “Girlfriend” and I talked about Sword of Gideon one time, which was based on Operation Wrath of God.
Insofar as getting the bastards out of office, ALL of the House comes up for re-election next year. The trick and what the RNC/GOP MUST do, is run against Obama, Reid and Pelosi. Counter, counter, counter with:
“Americans wanted lower taxes, so they marched on Washington. The Democrats called them racists.”
“Americans didn’t want a public option, they wanted real health care and tort reform. The Democrats said “too bad.”
“Americans wanted less dependence on foreign oil – they wanted to drill for America’s own resources. Nancy Pelosi said “Can we drill your brains.”
“Americans wanted no amnesty for illegal aliens. Democrats called them racist.”
And on and on….there will be more examples by the same time the next election comes along. And if you have a Donk Congressman, these are the people you’ll keep in power.
We need the 2010 version of the Contract With America. To counter the current Contract ON America.
re: #63 by buzzsawmonkey
Have heard some scary stuff about inflation supposedly going through the roof in spring 2010. I don’t know, it’s depressing really how Progressives pretend to be about one thing (health care! yay!) when it’s really about controlling the economy and getting their hands on the fundamental decisions of citizen’s lives.
re: #71 by Carolina Girl
I agree. I’d add a hard Second Amendment platform. We have had two years of record gun sales, record ammuntition sales, to back up an unprecedented demand for some national leadership to stand up for our rights. The Republicans are the natural party to take up that toarch.
We’ll see if they have the balls to do so. I am not counting on much. My hope is in the Supreme Court, for a Second Heller decision to enforce the Second Amendment against the States as well as the Federal Government. To do otherwise would be tantamount to re-legalizing slavery…
re: #71 by Carolina Girl
BTW, the Girlfriend sends a big smooch. Girls kissing! How, um, sweet…
re: #69 by buzzsawmonkey
“”When we send our young men and women into harm’s way, we have a solemn obligation not to fudge the numbers or shade the truth about why they are going, to care for their families while they’re gone, to tend to the soldiers upon their return and to never, ever go to war without enough troops to win the war, secure the peace and earn the respect of the world.”"
Barack Hussein Obama, 2004 Democratic Convention
LIAR!
MMM MMM MMM!
re: #70 by Iron Fist
Last year at the gunshow they had the Barrett M95. $7500. I’ll take two. Banned in the state where the hippie control freak lives, because too many people were shoving them down their pants and holding up banks with them.
Want list:
12ga autoloader
Uzi 9mm
.45 longslide with laser sighting
Phased plasma rifle in the 40watt range.
But really:
DAO-12, or the Pancor Jackhammer
re: #74 by Iron Fist
Ha ha. Tell her I said right back atcha!
re: #55 by buzzsawmonkey
I think you got a hit!
June 4, 2009 Cairo Egypt
re: #79 by m
Does that include the Koran?
re: #79 by m
If he does that, how will he have time for anything else?
re: #80 by WrathofG-d
Wrath–you may like my #187, previous thread.
And then you have the Great State of California. Home of gang violence, drug running, illegals everywhere. They pass law after law to curb our gun rights. Because it will make California safer. The latest injustice. Fingerprinting and identification to buy handgun ammunition. No more internet sales (which I believe violates federal law). Me, I’m driving to Nevada to load up before they do border enforcement on my way back from Reno.
Because of course, criminals respect the 10-round magazine maximum, the concealed carry laws and they of course will be honest about ammunition purchases.
I would thank God we have term limits in this state but it hasn’t helped. I just would like to see a Republican majority elected to ONE house so that we can rid ourselves of these hilariously gerrymandered Congressional Districts (look at the 10th sometime – it defies description).
re: #79 by m
Hmmmm defender of Islam huh?
re: #80 by WrathofG-d
I know, right? He better get started~!
Cairo
Tolerance? I don’t think that means what he thinks it means.
re: #84 by davehm
Evidently.
re: #85 by m
Obama, the King of Liberalism, and (it seem) defender of the Faith, is like all Liberals and as such doesn’t work within reality.
Its all about desired reality, not actual reality.
One where the thousands of years of Islamic imperialism, murder, violence, and intolerance don’t exist because TODAY, he doesn’t want to believe it.
Same goes for the Health Care plan. He doesn’t have to read it…that would deal with reality, it only needs to exist in his dreams, his emotions…because he will then just believe that to be the desired reality.
Today:
“I won’t risk your lives unless it is absolutely necessary,” Obama told service men and women. He promised a “clear mission” with defined goals and the equipment needed to get the job done.
Today:
Gen. Stanley McChrystal’s proposal to send 40,000 additional U.S. combat troops to Afghanistan “reaches too far, too fast,” Sen. John Kerry warned Monday.
“”Now, let me be clear. Let me be clear. We have real enemies in the world. These enemies must be found. They must be pursued. And they must be defeated.
John Kerry knows this. And just as Lieutenant Kerry did not hesitate to risk his life to protect the men who served with him in Vietnam, President Kerry will not hesitate one moment to use our military might to keep America safe and secure.”"
Barack Hussein Obama, 2004 Democratic Convention
re: #85 by m
Obama, the King of Liberalism, and (it seem) defender of the Faith, is like all Liberals and as such doesn’t work within reality.
Its all about desired reality, not actual reality.
One where the thousands of years of Islamic imperialism, murder, violence, and intolerance don’t exist because TODAY, he doesn’t want to believe it.
Same goes for the Health Care plan. He doesn’t have to read it…that would deal with reality, it only needs to exist in his dreams, his emotions…because he will then just believe that to be the desired reality.
It is like the “coexist” stickers. Great idea, but like all Liberals those who have them don’t realize that its all for not if the other side doesn’t want to coexist.
Obama can say it (as can the bumper stickers) but it don’t mean jack in reality if the other groups doesn’t want to be “tolerant” or “coexist”.
re: #88 by IslandLibertarian
George Bush used our military might.
Barack Obama might use our military.
re: #75 by IslandLibertarian
Every time you say LIAR! it makes me smile and think of Miracle Max’s wife from the Princess Bride. We need to send her to an Obama news conference.
LIAR!
re: #79 by m
Funny, the more we (read: Obama) suck up to the Muslim world, the more they despise us.
Kemalism is now dead in Turkey. The Turks have now openly allied themselves with the Iran-Syria-Hezbollah axis. Despite mollycoddling the Turks for decades and holding them up as a “secular” example for the Muslim world to follow, they’ve fully reverted to their traditional Islamic anti-Semitism and hatred for the West.
Can we kick these ingrates out of NATO already?
http://townhall.com/columnists/CarolineGlick/2009/10/19/how_turkey_was_lost?page=full
re: #91 by blueiris
“He distinctly said “to blave.” And, as we all know, “to blave” means “to bluff.” So you’re probably playing cards, and he cheated –”
re: #76 by Rightside
$7500 for a Barrett? You are kidding, right? They have one here for $8900, and that is, as far as I can tell, a good price. They have a Bushmaster for about half that. I have to admit, I wasn’t interested in the Bushmaster. I’d rather have the autoloader, or just a bolt-gun. I’d rather have a, what is it, Tactilite in .416 Barrett (cool, oh, so coooooolllll), or an Armalite in .50.
As for the Stryker? Well, I could have had one many times before Clinton’s unconstitutional ban on them. I didn’t because as neat as it is, it isn’t worth it. I’d rather have a slide action shotgun, or even a double-barreled. I can give lots of reasons for that, but them’s the way it is.
I don’t have a Judge, either, as neat as I think a five-shot .410 shotgun is. If I had the money to collect all the weapons I want (I have a $1000 sword on my list, and a $400 knife, and a $325 knife…) I’d get one, but I’ll never have all the money I want for all the guns I want. Or knives, or anything else.
My desire outstrips my reach, probably forever…
re: #93 by WrathofG-d
“Obama, we want a troop increase.”
“What troop increase?”
“Fessik, rip his arms off.”
“Oh, you mean THIS troop increase.”
re: #91 by blueiris
Twenty years, never heard racism from Wright.
Ayers, just a neighbor.
No tax increase.
Will win in Afghanistan (pending?).
No Red State / Blue State America.
Bring country together.
End government waste.
No lobbyists in administration.
Transparent governing.
LIAR!
re: #92 by jeppo
I wish I could disagree with you. I really do. We gave the Turks a pass on the Armeinian Genocide, something I knew little about, and would have known nothing about, except for an Armeinian friend in middle school. He educated me a lot, but moved on, and I moved on…
Genocide isn’t something a 15 year old gangbanger wannabe thinks about much if it isn’t happening all around him. I’d likely have gone to war for my friend, but none of that shit was happening around me.
That is just how it is/was.
What is all this then?
re: #97 by Iron Fist
I was just telling the Girlfriend about it. Dude had pictures of people’s heads stacked up and shit. I knew someone who was the son or grandson of people who died in the Armenian genocide. Damn.
I wish I knew him now. I’d maybe be mature enough to know to ask the right questions…
On topic: Why 1978 was a very bad year
re: #100 by snork
Excellent article. The parallels are uncanny.
re: #98 by song_and_dance_man
You’ve been watching the Monty Python marathons, too?
re: #100 by snork
We put the Carter before the horse’s ass.
re: #97 by Iron Fist
The Turks have never admitted their complicity in the Armenian genocide, much less apologized for it.
They were useful allies of ours in the Cold War, but now in the 21st Century clash of civilizations between Islam and the West, they’re definitely in the enemy camp.
Kick Turkey out of NATO now!
Someone needs to tell this protester in Turkey, that the fighting between Islam and the world has nothing to do with Islam
http://www.daylife.com/photo/00TXc818uIfY1?q=Jerusalem
Since I am going OT:
Notice the blurb that goes with this picture of Tourist Violently Hit by Large Stone Thrown By Rioting “Palestinian”.
Oh wait that would actually be..http://www.daylife.com/photo/0bUy7r2bt86Gf?q=Jerusalem
Now, if it were instead an Arab hit by an Israeli (on accident of course) I’m sure the caption would be so passive, and clear on explanation.
uh huh
re: #102 by blueiris
It’s actually from John Cleese’s character from Silverado. But close enough to MP.
Since I am going OT:
Notice the blurb that goes with this picture of Tourist Violently Hit by Large Stone Thrown By Rioting “Palestinian”.
Oh wait that would actually be..http://www.daylife.com/photo/0bUy7r2bt86Gf?q=Jerusalem
Now, if it were instead an Arab hit by an Israeli (on accident of course) I’m sure the caption would be so passive, and clear on explanation.
uh huh
How about this as well….
http://www.daylife.com/photo/05jNgeqeAIceS?q=Jerusalem
O/T. Got banned from LGF 1.0, sometime in the last few weeks. I have not made a post there in over a month. The only thing I did was post on here, so I guess that was it unless there are some new rules in effect. Thanks charles “my hyprocisry knows no bounds” johnson.
You know, you all really need to fix the WE WILL EAT UP YOUR POST IF YOU DON’T WAIT LONG ENOUGH BEFVORE YOU TYPE
Bullshit.
I’m so pissed off I could beat someone to death with a claw hammer over it.
360 degrees of seperation, I guess. I’m mad as hell.
Dog eat Dog
http://www.daylife.com/photo/00Wraw1cEc7vH?q=Jerusalem
http://www.daylife.com/photo/08ok1YFd2gbLN?q=Jerusalem
OT:
The Islamic Violence Against Israel Has Nothing To Do With Religion/Islam?
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0gkF9Js7s3eZ1/232×154.jpg?center=0.5,0
re: #88 by IslandLibertarian
It should be a rule that whenever the words “Kerry” and “bravery” are used in the same sentence, the post should be headed with the words “BARF ALERT.”
re: #104 by jeppo
re: #105 by WrathofG-d
The Turks occupy Northern Cyprus and Constantinople. Why don’t we demand the Turks return these territories to the Greeks?
It’s hypocrisy!
re: #109 by Johnnyreb
Welcome, Johnnyreb!
Congratulations on your release from swampland!
re: #112 by WrathofG-d
Wrath: did you see my post upthread referring you back to the previous?
re: #109 by Johnnyreb
On behalf of the 2.0 nation I offer this laurel and hearty handshake.
re: #115 by wolfie
As one Confederate (or is that “Neo-confederate” according to the loons at the bar across the street) to another – WELCOME!
And just in time for Taco Night tomorrow!
Sorry wolfie….that was for johnnyreb…but what the hell, we’re all neo-confederates now, aren’t we?
re: #116 by buzzsawmonkey
nope
re: #119 by Carolina Girl
Neo-Confederate motherfucker with an attitude…
Thread up for 2.5 hours – 120 posts already. Oh man, I do remember when that was a day’s worth of posts.
Now we got us a PAR-TAY!
re: #121 by Iron Fist
Tell me about it, honey – I KNOWS y’all!
re: #120 by WrathofG-d
#187 previous thread.
re: #123 by Carolina Girl
And we’re coming up on the 5:00 lull.
re: #125 by snork
Yep – headed home – catch all y’all on the rebound if housework doesn’t intrude!
Lull, coming up.
That’d be when we shoot…
Bang…bang….
Fire it up…come on…
It is going to be awful waiting in a long gov’t line for awful gov’t health care.
This is the bureaucrats in charge of whether we live or die.
It’s a little more complicated than selling stamps or issuing a driver’s license.
We won’t get our money’s worth. Many people will suffer from lack of care and inferior care. It’s the gov’t way.
re: #129 by Iron Fist
“”"”"Fire it up…come on::::
All I have is my little AMT380
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqs0s1mlvjg
I know it is small but I like it
re: #131 by BBEV
It ain’t the size of the pump, it is the size of the piston…
Hey, I’m doin’ the best I can…
re: #131 by BBEV
You know, man, I wouldn’t put shit like that on tape. I mean, I don’t care. Wouldn’t have it myself, but I’m not a snitch, either. But you don’t know who is watching. I’m assuming that ain’t really you in the vid. You know.
It ain’t you. I don’t know who it is. I don’t want to know who it is.
It ain’t you, and I don’t know who you are. Not even close.
re: #133 by Iron Fist
Nope not me. I found it on the web but I like the change
re: #134 by BBEV
It’s cool, but I really wouldn’t do it. You cut off the disconnector, IIRC. Cheap-ass machinegun. I wouldn’t do it.
You know. For informational purposes, and etcetera…
re: #133 by Iron Fist
Hey IF!
have you heard this song?
it should be your theme song
THE WARRIOR SONG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTs6a0ORdQU
I think the reason that the Left can never be honest is because they reject objective Truth, as well as the testimony of ordinary, lived experience.
I keep coming back to what Marx said in “The Poverty of Philosophy,” where he contrasts ideology with philosophy.
Counter-revolutionaries think philosophically. They search for the truth of things. Progressives, knowing that ‘truth’ is a class-based fiction, think ideologically. Their goal is power. Once the proletariat has power, their narrative will become “truth.”
As the Left gains increasing power in this country, I see an increasing contempt for truth. I see the establishment of narratives that are DEMONSTRABLY false.(Exhibit #1: the story of the “Palestinians.”)
This is the great Marxist maxim: “The point is not to understand the world but to change it.”
The point is not to understand, or even read, a health bill. The point is to pass it. And then make it a power tool.
Dooooooooooooom.
I’m in a glum mood today.
Perhaps it is because the Redskins are going to have to play the Eagles tonight.
re: #135 by Iron Fist
It’s just my back up, you know something to keep in my boot.
re: #136 by rain of lead
100%, man.
I am a knife fighter. I have been all my life. When I was ten, you could measure your life by my blade, if you pushed it. I had a knife from my father, and that was enough.
That is beautiful. Something the warrior feels in his, or hers, heart.
For the record, members of my family were involved in the Armenian genocide… on the receiving end.
re: #140 by Iron Fist
thought you would like that.
re: #130 by chickadee
Here’s a sneak preview of government health care:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFj2qpIA_M0
re: #141 by Xeon
Keep the memory alive.
Pass it on to your kids.
I hope the Armenians never forget.
Most Americans don’t even know about it.
re: #144 by wolfie
You can count on that!
re: #136 by rain of lead
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8UJgtWxI-M
The music is better. The visuals aren’t so much…
re: #146 by Iron Fist
oh yeah!
as you said 100%
liked that
re: #109 by Johnnyreb
The current web of rules is such that everyone is a violator. It’s no longer a matter of his having cause to ban. Now he must be given cause not to ban you.
things that make you go hahahaha
newspaper circulation drops 10%
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Newspaper-circulation-drop-apf-3182126693.html?x=0
re: #149 by rain of lead
When I read that I was shocked…just 10%?
re: #150 by davehm
yeah but 10% is alot when you are down to almost nothing
re: #130 by chickadee
Take a look at Britain to see what awaits us.
Why does Sean Hannity always have to have Bob Beckel on his program?
re: #92 by jeppo
Maybe it’s time for the Turkish Army to take over.
OT, I wonder if ACORN got the memo.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,569593,00.html
See it’s against the law.
re: #154 by Speranza
Turkish marching bands are awesome. My favorite of the “mehter” marches:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntVtN3g6ERM
re: #156 by Moe Katz
That’s not the type of marching band I would like to see in my town…with their crescent moons and all.
re: #157 by davehm
No, but the Turkish marching band with percussion gave rise to our western marching bands, drum corps and so forth. Their wind instruments are different….
How is everyone doing tonight
re: #159 by typicalwhitey
Hi Whitey!
CNN has new title!
http://mediadecoder.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/10/26/cnn-drops-to-last-place-among-cable-news-networks/
I’m shocked, I thought for sure MSNBC would take it.
U.S. Congress lead by Democrats Pelosi and Reid has been renamed.
U.S. Fraud and Abuse Center.
Please call them, 800-000-0000 for your F’you America response.
re: #158 by Moe Katz
“Their wind instruments are different….”
I got a wind instrument for them
re: #109 by Johnnyreb
search youtube for johnny rebel and you might see why chucky banned you
/just a thought
re: #152 by Speranza
Watch the vid in 143. The funny thing is, it wasn’t meant as a criticism of the British medical system, but to American eyes, it sure has that effect.
“flagleist”
re: #164 by mawskrat
ooh that’s not good.
re: #165 by snork
The British medical system is destroyed in James Delingpole’s book “Welcome to Obamaland” I Have Seen Your Future and it Doesn’t Work”.
re: #153 by Speranza
flagleist
Who killed it?
re: #160 by Moe Katz
re: #163 by davehm
re: #154 by Speranza
Hello guys!
re: #171 by Rodan
Quiet tonight.
http://www.quantcast.com/littlegreenfootballs.com
New traffic data from 1.0. Record low again.
Hi Rodan
re: #172 by Moe Katz
just the 4 of us
re: #174 by davehm
Did you click the link and see the curve for 1.0’s traffic going south?
I’m waiting for my wife to get home so we can dine, when she’s not around I eat, there is a difference.
re: #176 by davehm
I would have thought the opposite: when your wife isn’t home you dine, and when she comes home you eat.
/
lurking… hope that’s not bannable here…
re: #175 by Moe Katz
dropping like a rock, I wonder why he wrecked it?
re: #174 by davehm
………ahem……..
re: #178 by CynicalConservative
GET OFF MY BLOG////
re: #173 by Moe Katz
Holy crap. Ranger said it on the other thread. He managed to drive that thing straight down with the afterburners on.
The website Darwin award goes to…
re: #178 by CynicalConservative
Get off my site
re: #178 by CynicalConservative
We don’t ban, we only spank………
re: #180 by typicalwhitey
LOL forgot, just because your out of sight doesn’t mean your out of mind.
re: #180 by typicalwhitey
How did it go at the lawyer’s?
Moe, another interesting thing is that if you’ve been keeping mental notes on his demographics, they’re shifting, too. Downscale.
re: #182 by snork
The website Darwin award goes to…
Hotel Charlifornia
re: #178 by CynicalConservative
I lurk a lot myself, sometimes I don’t have the time to get a conversation going or engage because I know the meat world can pull me away at any moment.
Yeah, Whitey. You think the lawyer has things under control?
re: #187 by snork
That is an interesting observation!
re: #186 by kansas
well he recommended someone up in the town where they live so am going tomorrow
We are going to file for full custody and request a guardian ad leidem (sp)………..or………….she can agree to reasonable visitation and file it with the court.
I talked to her atty and told him what was going on and he said to have my atty call him.
Since I am paying for her atty….I can reasonably assume he will advise her not to bring a butter knife to the gunfight we are planning.
Hope to resolve it out of court, but if she refuses to let us see him, we are going to file for full custody.
I am done fucking around.
re: #189 by davehm
That’s mostly the case with me as well. Hate getting into an interesting conversation or debate and having to walk away when it gets interesting or challenging.
Wifey home…tonight we dine
(see, back to the meat world)
Well, I am sure there are issues I don’t understand here, but if the child is in danger, I would think the attorney would recommend the court appointed guardian, and then you and your husband, with the father, could be witnesses. Just do what is best for your grandson.
Best Wishes.
re: #195 by kansas
Thanks!
Doing what is best for my grandson is all I have been trying to do.
But I cannot leave him living with a man with a history of abuse, who is not his father and not be allowed to see him.
We have had him half his life.
We have him 3 days and nights a week.
If she doesn’t want to be reasonable, I will take my chances with a judge.
I am sure she can afford to hire the best to fight me, what with her job at the gas station and all.
As you can tell, I have moved from sad to furious!
re: #192 by typicalwhitey
litem. meaning for the duration of litigation.
re: #187 by snork
Can you elucidate? What has been the demo trend? (How do these fancy machines know that, anyway?)
re: #192 by typicalwhitey
It sounds like full custody with you and your husband would be the best thing for this little boy.
Best wishes!
re: #188 by Moe Katz
HOTEL CHARLIFORNIA.
That’s goooooood!
Charlifornication.
re: #199 by Eliana
I would really hate to do that Eliana.
But I live in terror of what will happen to my grandson.
If I can get regular visitation then I can notify the authorities if anything were to happen to him and not lose my visitation.
As it stands now, she can and has yanked him away from us every time she gets mad.
He has gone from 3 days a week with us to NOTHING.
She wont let us see him at all and its coming up on two weeks.
re: #201 by typicalwhitey
Sounds like a very difficult situation.
Please let us know how things are going with this.
Again, best wishes!
re: #2 by Nevergiveup
The morons who voted for them are the ones getting free money, taken out of our pockets.
They’re getting exactly what they voted for.
Now, 5 to 10 years from now, when we’re in a monster depression and the socialists start enforcing things…… then there will be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
Won’t matter, we’ll already be in prison, or dead.
re: #202 by Eliana
Thanks! I said when I get my visitation back I am going to ask for a “the drinks are on typicalwhitey” thread to celebrate!!!!!!!!!
re: #198 by wolfie
I’m just doing it by memory. They don’t (afaik) trend that.
re: #201 by typicalwhitey
Who is watching him while she works? You must do whatever it takes to get that little boy. Prayers to you and Chase.
re: #206 by newsjunkie_ky
He is in daycare.
Or she leaves him alone with the wife beater.
I have offered to watch him at her house, bring him home and return him when she gets off work or even to PAY for the extra babysitting.
She refuses, says that her bf wouldn’t hit him.
I said since Chase CANNOT TALK how in the hell would you know if he did?
You all know the statistics.
How many times do you see it on the news…the boyfriend was left with the child and hurt them.
As is was, I knew he was safe three days a week.
Now….well I am sure you know what is running through my mind.
Must get some sleep to be fresh for the attorney tomorrow.
Thank you all for caring!
re: #208 by typicalwhitey
Good luck, Whitey!
Well, surprise, surprise. The top two threads at the funny farm are the sooper seekrit Cone of Silence™, and (wait for it) Yet Another Evolution Thread.
I’m so excited, I could just poop my pants.
And they link to (guess who?):
Now they’re talking trash about Texas. I’m probably doubling their traffic by watching. Never mind.
OK, screwitall. I’ll check back in about a half hour, and see if there’s any sign of life.
TIP THE COWS OVER THAT IS THE ONLY SOLUTION
Just ask Ludwigvanquacks-a-lot, Charles Johnson , or B. Obama current assistant to Al Gore.
It cow farts, ya, the cows, the CO2, so clear it is all the progressives and commies will have to learn “cow tipping”, ( it is an art),
only a massive effort to end cow farts will save us from being 200 feet under water.
Good tipping to all, or as Charles says,,
“hit the tip jar”
re: #214 by taxfreekiller
It’s not cow farts anyway. The scientists figured out it’s bovine burps.
re: #203 by LanceKates
calm down your on the winning side
just keep your cool,,”k”
kerry lied people died, but that is not the last word on it…..
All I can say is we are lucky cows don’t eat hard boiled eggs, lemons and pickles. That CO2 would be more than silent and deadly.
re: #215 by Moe Katz
Both ends of the cow are suspect?
Is cow tipping 15% of the milk or meat?
The next time a cow wants a tip I will say, get a job bovine.
re: #210 by snork
I got so sick and tired of the same old crap day in and day out, evolution one day, global warming the next, Glen Beck and Rush thrown in just to mix it up a little. You’d think even the bootlickers that are there would get a little tired of it by now.
re: #218 by song_and_dance_man
Yep, a lot of greenhouse gases from both ends of the cow, apparently.
re: #212 by snork
I just had to take a look. The wreck stat just quadrupled.
re: #222 by Moe Katz
I grew up next to a cow farm before they moved it or shut it down. It was stinky but I can guarantee it was not from burps. It was the chips.
re: #224 by song_and_dance_man
Bullshit.
re: #211 by snork
OMG I can’t believe they’re linking to the KosKids site. Damn. Maybe, hit-the-tip-jar CJ, might ask them about financial advice since it looks like he’s going to be needing it. I mean, after all, they are so reputable over there.
So, “cow tipping” is NOT “giving dollars to obese strippers”? Who knew?!
re: #221 by ms.p.henry
If it isn’t GW it’s the rascals who hate or Creationists or haters or new deals on Amazon or Barnes and Noble or racists or Amazon or sekrit threads or lame music vids or whining about things that don’t really matter or some other things that are of interest. Like racists or the GOP and Palin and Beck.
re: #227 by PrincessNatasha
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!1
re: #227 by PrincessNatasha
Sharmuta has a cow tip jar. Is that relevant?
Princess is teh funny.
re: #173 by Moe Katz
The affinity statistics are very telling. Apparently he’s not attracting much interest from the left. With a solid conservative viewership making up the bulk of the hits, LGF can only continue to tank.
Bovine belches and flatulence both contain copious methane.
Here’s the deal. You have two groups, the Luddites, and the animal freaks. The Luddites want to tear down industry, so they focus on CO2. The animal freaks want to ban meat, so they focus on CH4. That’s why every once in a while you’ll hear some activist claiming that cows are worse than SUVs. It’s a question of whose ox is farting.
Lots of disingenuousness for the cause.
re: #232 by Godzilla
So he’s got a smattering of token lefties and a remnant of conservatives that are walking on eggshells…. and little growth potential on the left. It’s a desperation move to be linking to Kos.
re: #228 by song_and_dance_man
In other words it is boring, lame and pathetic. And with that, it’s good night to all.
re: #232 by Godzilla
I didn’t even notice that; I had to move my horizontal bar to even see those. That’s very, very interesting. Especially Reihl. The way CJ’s been trashing Reihl, I think they’re all train wreck spectators.
That being the case, I think the bottom’s going to fall out pretty quickly. And teh donkeys aren’t going to ride to his rescue. He’s phooqed.
Isn’t it rich?
Are we au pair?
Chaz here as on the ground,
You in bad-air.
Send in the cows.
Isn’t it this?
Don’t you dare move?
One who keeps tearing the tears,
One who can’t move.
Where are the cows?
Send in the cows.
Just when I’d stopped opening troughs,
Finally knowing the one that I granted was yours,
Making my entrance again with my usual tail,
Sure of my burps,
No one is there.
Don’t you love farts?
My fault I fear.
I thought that you’d want what I sent.
‘Scuse, my dear.
But where are the cows?
Quick, send in the cows.
Don’t bother, they’re here.
Isn’t it rich?
Isn’t it queer,
Losing my timing this late
In it my rear?
And where are the cows?
There ought to be cows.
Well, maybe next year.
re: #227 by PrincessNatasha
They walk on stage, shake the flab, then demand that if they don’t get plenty o bucks, the cloths come off.
Most of the guys pay out of fear that more gyrations will cause the house to collapse.
If we could bag the cow farts then exchange them on the carbon credit market, that might be a good thing. I’d rather listen to bovine flatulence then an Al Gore speach.
The traffic stats are also illuminating:
Traffic Frequency:
3% addicts => 46% of visits
Copious methane. Found in the restrooms of Congress.
re: #233 by snork
“Whose ox is farting” {DING}
Nice analysis on the moolecular level.
re: #239 by snork
The addicts used to be around 5% and accounted for up to 60% of visits, but they all disappeared to the diasporosphere….
re: #234 by Moe Katz
And DKOS has a ten-year head start, with people that actually write articles, hair-brained though they be. I can’t see Charles making any big gains in that space.
re: #241 by Moe Katz
I could have said whose ox is being Gored, but why bring ManBearPig into this? I’m cereal.
re: #243 by Godzilla
He might get a few college kids that don’t know anything about his history….
hi kids
Savage! You workin’?
re: #242 by Moe Katz
Mandy and Sharm went where?
re: #236 by snork
And another thing that idiot doesn’t realize is how many ‘creationists’ there are of leftist persuasion. That religious people are all right-wing conservatives is a common fallacy among leftists.
Savage, party’s upstairs.
re: #248 by JeremyR
Mandy and Sharm form the, uh, rump group.
Hey Savage!
re: #249 by Godzilla
I’ve said it before. He’s got a boner for Hitchens. And he doesn’t care who he pisses off.
Also a lot of secular people of all political persuasions are nonplussed and irritated by the evolution fetish. I mean, let’s have thread after thread after thread on squaredancing, and see what kind of an audience you can keep.
re: #253 by snork
It’s like a textbook case of hubris. He thought he’d remain popular no matter what he did because he was believing his own press notices and thought his prior success was due to something other than luck.
re: #254 by Moe Katz
Now do you understand our president?
re: #255 by snork
Hah!
re: #255 by snork
He is getting more obnoxious as POTUS than he was as a candidate.