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Play nice!
Is that a jazz guitarist?
Again….Obama betrays Israel.
Obama Won’t Veto Goldstone Report
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1121713.html
re: #2 by WrathofG-d
Didn’t he win most of the Jewish vote in the election?
Why?
I think that’s a dingbat, jonesing for a ding…
***precious***
I’m going to stay on your thread Wrath!
I enjoyed the piece – sort of. I’d like to give our lead some Motrin though.
I posted this on Rodan’s thread but it deserves repeating.
Two new threads within 5 minutes of each other. We need better coordination.
re: #3 by typicalwhitey
About 74%.
**spit**
re: #3 by typicalwhitey
Because people (Jewish and otherwise) believed the hype.
Also, many Jews are confused on the term “Pro-Israel”.
re: #8 by WrathofG-d
52% of Americans were willfully ignorant. Any Jew who is ok with the “church” Barry attended for 20 years needs their head examined.
Some people are just too dumb to pretend to blog at real science sites (taken from ClimateAudit):
F me. Is it too much to ask people to know the difference between capacity and demand???
nok nok…
re: #11 by snork
Who dere?
re: #3 by typicalwhitey
A bunch of us Jewish Conservatives were discussing that here just the other day. I don’t know how or why, but I suspect it has to do with political momentum more than anything else. All I can tell you is that family get togethers are hard sometimes. My family members will make some comment dripping with BDS, and before I have a chance to breath, they all scream in unison, Shut up John. It is maddening. It also hurts that the Jewish Religion stands for most everything in the conservative movement today. Hopefully, my relatives will wake up for 2010, and 2012.
re: #10 by snork
Damn, man, pickey, pickey. Capacity, demand, production, oh, my! domestic production, damn, these are confusing! OMG!! Ponies!!11ty!! Barack Hussein Obama MMM, MMM, MMMM. Barack Hussein Obama!!! 11ty!!
re: #12 by vagabond trader
This thing on?
Israeli-Muslim Indicted For Throwing Molotov at Jews in Silwan on Yom Kippur
If you want to try to understand the twisted logic of an Arab-Israeli, and why they “must” attack Jews, read the following- the second paragraph of the article.
Get that? The Israeli-Muslim attempted to commit arson against Jews, because their own Muslim father sold property to the Jews back in 2003. (six years ago) Of course, being of the overwhelming sensitivity of Islamists towards other religious, the ROP waited to attack the Jews on their holiest day of the year.
Now the article:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3792281,00.html
Meanwhile at ClimateAudit, another alarmist steps on his dick:
http://www.climateaudit.org/?p=7374
So Steve proceeds to do just that, and the result is a graph with an even warmer WMP.
D’oh!
Are We Fighting a “cold war” Against Iran?
(maybe Obama isn’t as big as an idiot as we all though?)
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/133939
Hamas To Kids: Learn English & Hebrew, the Languages of your ENEMIES.
(ahhhhhh, the future peace makers. Remember when Israel left Gaza for peace, ethnicly cleansing it of anything Jewish? Wow, how did that work out? Let’s do it again in Judea/Samaria)
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/133918
PA Arabs Using Israelis Humanitarian Easing of Restrictions For “Olive Harvest” To Commit Attacks On Jews
(this is also a big activity/thing for the ISM)
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/133937
re: #16 by WrathofG-d
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You wouldn’t have really liked what that post made me write. It involved high energy partical physics and Mecca, and combining those two is always enlightening to all the nations.
I had to hide the thought or peace might break out. But only after the high-energy physics event…
re: #19 by Iron Fist
I am not too much of a fan of the Israeli-Muslims/Arabs. Too often they as a group (of course there are great Israeli-Arabs) cause too much trouble, and are a threat to Jews.
I don’t see a need to nuke mecca, but a peaceful separation between the Jews and the Muslims would be acceptable.
I should emphasize that this was in Silwan, in Jerusalem, ISRAEL (an Israeli-Arab/Muslim town however)
re: #19 by Iron Fist
he he he…
Hey everyone. Today has turned out to be a pretty good day. Its beautiful outside, cool, sunshine, low humidity good hair day, half day of work, shopped online, screwing around on 2.0, what could be better? (a steaming mug of hot chocolate would be better actually.)
re: #21 by bellamags
Hi Bella!!
….another environmentally forward invention by Israel that will be ignored by the blinder’d Anti-Israeli International left.
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/133913
Well that was a strange vid. Was that Halibut man the missing link?
Just Another Way Obama Is “Going Green” – Feds To Issue New Medical Marijuana Policy
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20091019/D9BE5D2G0.html
(thread worthy?)
re: #22 by typicalwhitey
Hey typicalwhitey… You know what I remember most about you from the other place…? Being online the night of the election and we were crying together. (and Kilgore Trout was gloating)
Sotamayor Admits That White House Even Picked Out Her Clothing.
http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/politics/Justice-Sotomayor-says-White-House-Left-Nothing-to-Chance-64724512.html
White House boasts: We ‘control’ news media
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=113347
re: #26 by bellamags
I was banned before the election and so missed all that. Too bad. I would have had much to input on that conversation.
Italian dictator Benito Mussolini was once on the payroll of British Intelligence?
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20091014/od_nm/us_mussolini;_ylt=Ahw5Zpp64GZvo61XeDuYtKjtiBIF;_ylu=X3oDMTJoMG9uMTFkBGFzc2V0A25tLzIwMDkxMDE0L3VzX211c3NvbGluaQRwb3MDOARzZWMDeW5fYXJ0aWNsZV9zdW1tYXJ5X2xpc3QEc2xrA2hvd211c3NvbGluaQ–
The mainstream evolution-theory scholar who fell in love and now believes that we’re all controlled by shape-shifting reptilian
http://news.yahoo.com/s/uc/20091018/od_notw/nwx091018xml
re: #20 by WrathofG-d
If the problem is Islam (and Mohammedans have gone far out of their way to convince me that it is) vaporizing Islam’s so-called Holiest city seems to take the enemy out in one quick blow. Allah ain’t god,Mohamhead ain’t his profit, because we just nuked hiscapital city on earth, blowing up his space rock and pissing off mohammedans all over the world. Tough shit for them. We’ve just demonstrated that their alledged god is impotent. If he couldn’t stop Mecca from getting nuked, he ain’t going to be producing the celestial babes for the ’splodeydopes, either. Oops. Major FAIL, Mohammedans.
Shake something up. Whatever else happened, I dare say that Palestinian-Israeli conflict is no longer top of Mohammedan’s priorities.
The climate change feek-out at lgf’s 1.0
knows no limits,, off the charts, off the mark,
mad as hatters, borg cult, and more.
Each thread that goes up freetoken, iceweasle and Ludwidgvonquackquack go on a one up over
the hill post after the other, end times X’s 1,000.
All of it urged on by head dunce king Charles.
If they belive any of that trash, how the hell do they go to sleep and expect to wake up any thing but 200 feet under water and dead from drowning.
not even smart enough to be kooks… IMO
re: #27 by WrathofG-d
They feel so entrenched and safe in their role to socialize America it appears they have no problem admitting what we knew all along.
If someone here sees Goddess before I do, could you please have her add my stepson to the prayer list. he is leaving for A-stan on Saturday. Thanks guys : )
re: #28 by song_and_dance_man
http://afrocityblog.wordpress.com/2009/10/13/accentuate-the-positive-eliminate-the-negative-and-blame-the-rest-on-bush/crazy-obot/
We were all telling him to go *uck himself..
I recently saw the above image on ALS – Afrocity’s blog and immediately thought of him and how he must have looked on election night.
re: #31 by taxfreekiller
Is that a hook in their mouths I see, and a line and a sinker?
re: #31 by taxfreekiller
I don’t get too worked up over Global Warming because the world is going to end in 2012 anyway.
Hell, I’m going to run my credit cards up to their limit and live large…….
Heh.
/
re: #32 by song_and_dance_man
Who watches the watchmen?
re: #37 by WrathofG-d
We do
re: #34 by bellamags
Ha. He went from cello to the pipe.
re: #38 by Nevergiveup
If we were even able to vote out horrible politicians then I might still believe that.
Nancy Pelosi only has a 34% approval rating, yet is 3rd in line to be POTUS, and I assume will not lose her seat in her next election.
There was a silent coup; we were sleeping.
Right & Left are to blame!
re: #31 by taxfreekiller
LOL!
re: #40 by WrathofG-d
I was awake but surrounded by morons
re: #37 by WrathofG-d
Ditto what Never said.
re: #37 by WrathofG-d
We do. WE MUST.
Hey, do you think the White House goal for their war with Fox involves victory? No V-word for A-stan, but V-word v. Fox?
re: #36 by LGoPs
A guy posting as Captain America over at LGF made a fair observation , that there has been glacial melting in episodes over millions of years without CO2.
Ludwig chiped in, “Wrong thinking, this one is CO 2 Driven.”
Really, why?
re: #45 by Iron Fist
Good point. Libs can only get their testosterone up when fighting us eeeevil conservatives.
When it comes to fighting real enemies they’re all a bunch of pussies.
OT (even for an open)
Haim Moshe – TODA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69BYnseEiKA&feature=PlayList&p=E529A163893244E1&index=17
Everybody sababa!
re: #45 by Iron Fist
Is the white house completely oblivious to the sheer numbers of people that watch Fox? What will really happen if they shut that news organization down?
re: #26 by bellamags
I remember.
I just could not believe it!
I am so glad to find you again!
re: #45 by Iron Fist
Without Fox news…who would call out this (or any other D) Administration?
re: #46 by RIX
Because Ludwig says so, that’s why.
Which is also the reason that I think exactly the opposite……
re: #46 by RIX
More like, “So what?” It doesn’t matter why, if the temp goes up, it’ll have similar effects to warm periods before, i.e., not the end of the world.
re: #33 by NoThreat2U
No thank you.
And your son!
re: #50 by typicalwhitey
Me too – you were one of my faves. Always made me laugh.
A riddle:
If the total area of land: 57,268,900 square miles (148,326,000 km²), equals 29% of the total surface of the Earth, and the total area of water: 139,668,500 square miles (361,740,000 km²), equals 71% of the total surface of the Earth, how much water would it take to raise the ocean levels 200 feet, AND, WHERE THE FUCK IS ALL THAT WATER? In all the ice and snow on 29% of the earth surface?
re: #34 by bellamags
I also remember posting about 9/11 and what happened to my nephew.
I never told you thanks for listening…but thanks for listening.
re: #49 by bellamags
For people who are supposed to be so damned smart, Democrats sometimes do the absolute dumbest things. This would appear to be a case in point.
re: #58 by Iron Fist
You’d think so wouldn’t you?
re: #55 by bellamags
Remember when I changed my nic to typicalwhitey? An admitted sockpuppet but the name was so great that he let me do it LOL
((((((typicalwhitey)))))
re: #57 by typicalwhitey
No need to thank me – but you’re welcome. ; )
re: #36 by LGoPs
I was wondering the other day what would happen if there was some demonstrable proof that the world would end in some short period of time (massive asteroid or such), like 1 month or something. Many people would likely quit their jobs and try to enjoy their last days; unfortunately, there would be no one working in restaurants, shipping, gas stations, grocery stores, sewage treatment, etc. ’cause they’d all have the same thought. Might be a few heroes in law enforcement, but not enough.
I wonder at what point, though, if the disaster was going to happen we would see a semblance of civilization remain. 2 years? 10?
Any way, just an idle though you reminded me of.
re: #52 by LGoPs
re: #53 by Nikis Knight
As I see it , the Earth warms & cools in cycles, the evidence is clear.
The planet has always done rhat before man entered the scene & will continue after we are gone.
Do we conribute? Probably to a degree, but an inconsequential degree.
What I do resent is pseudo-scientists like Chuckie & this Ludwig guy screamibng & demanding acceptance of their view.
Boys, the Earth isn’t flat cause you say so.
re: #49 by bellamags
a one term president, and a new republican majority in both houses of congress.
re: #47 by LGoPs
It’s more than that. They see our enemies engaged in the same struggle. To dominate and control the humanity they govern.
re: #58 by Iron Fist
I honestly believe that they have too many “advisors” who are telling them that trying to marginalize Fox will convince people that they are just a tool of the dreaded Republicans.
They absolutely do not believe that independents and dems watch it also.
I believe when you get in the “zone” you have too hard of a time seeing anything else.
If I were ever elected President, one of my czars would be my Dad. He wouldn’t hesitate to tell me to straighten my act up and quit acting like an idiot.
re: #63 by Nikis Knight
As soon as the end is announced it will be dog eat dog and every man for himself. Stock up on the ammo and kiss your ass good bye.
re: #60 by typicalwhitey
vaguely..what was it before?
And the end is near. Angels just tied up the Yanks at 3 in the 6th
re: #61 by NoThreat2U
Hey how are you?!?!
The parents of an Eagle Scout who was suspended from his upstate New York high school for a month over a 2-inch pocketknife he kept locked in his car have retained a lawyer to appeal their school district’s zero-tolerance policies and demand that their son’s record be cleared.
Education lawyer Victor DeBonis is working pro bono for the family of 17-year-old Matthew Whalen, who has been banned from Lansingburgh High School for 20 school days.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568572,00.html
Kudos to Education lawyer Victor DeBonis and good luck
This is disturbing.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/2689523/Koran-boys-skin-mystery.html?OTC-RSS&ATTR=News
re: #52 by LGoPs
Yesterday, Ludwig admitted to being a female psychology freshman having a tryst with asswhistle.
re: #73 by bellamags
It sounds like child abuse to me.
re: #75 by song_and_dance_man
my thoughts exactly.
re: #69 by bellamags
ArmyAunt
re: #69 by bellamags
ArmyAunt
But I HAD to change it when O called his grandmother a typical white person LOL
re: #73 by bellamags
Ok, that is odd. Interesting that the “doctor” states that he is sure that no one is writing them on the kids skin, but can’t tell you how they get there.
re: #79 by WrathofG-d
Wait! What if Allah Is the true god & Islam is the answer?
Nah, I’m just efen with ya.
Does anyone think this is racist?
Octomatics
Nifty numbering system with new symbols
re: #77 by typicalwhitey
I don’t remember that too well. That was a good nic, but I totally like typicalwhitey the best. Keeps that “typical white person” BS in the front of the mind.
re: #79 by WrathofG-d
Unless others have witnessed the writing appearing as it happens I call BS. This child is being abused and is another balloon boy.
re: #76 by bellamags
Didn’t words appear on Regans body, along with the pea-soup puking and the head spinning?
/speshul efecks!
re: #83 by bellamags
I didn’t have it very long.
re: #81 by typicalwhitey
Well they sure do over at the landfiil.
They are imlying that DEDmint is guilty, although he said nothing.
I do hope that the guy who said it is Jewish.
Anybody know?
re: #82 by BuddyG
It reminds me of Predator symbols.
re: #80 by RIX
My al-Dajjal shall kick his ass!
re: #89 by waldensianspirit
How can Allah & Obama be god at the same time?
One of them is a fraud.
re: #27 by WrathofG-d
What they’re admitting is that most of America’s media has become an ole Soviet-style Pravda Collective.
When they say that Fox News is not a real news network, what they’re really telling us is that Fox is the only real news network left.
This has a lot to do with why Fox News is so popular.
re: #81 by typicalwhitey
It sounds racist to me ala penny pinching?
re: #84 by song_and_dance_man
re: #85 by IslandLibertarian
I think it is also another balloon boy incident. The article was taken from The Sun which is the British equivalent to The Enquirer. The scary thing about it is the ignorant people who will believe it and further encourage the parents reprehensible behavior.
Hey folks. It wasn’t that profound that you needed to pause so long in posting.
re: #90 by RIX
Ever hear of Mini-me?
re: #89 by waldensianspirit
With the help of the jinns.
re: #88 by song_and_dance_man
Yunno, in a real fight, I think that Predator would kick Alien’s ass.
re: #88 by song_and_dance_man
Totally one of my favorite movies ever. Do you know who played the predator?
re: #84 by song_and_dance_man
My thoughts exactly.
re: #91 by Eliana
I really don’t have much of an opinion of whether Fox news is right or not, but what I do know is that at this point where we are Fox News is necessary. Without it, we are stuck with the “controlled’ media only.
re: #91 by Eliana
Imo the White House is making a serious mistake regarding FNC.
On the one hand they insult the intellect of FNC viewers.
On the other hand they make it forbidden fruit to those who don’t watch & will go there.
Seriously, how many started lurking over here & eventually registered because CJ would not stop whining?
I did some illegal penny pinching as a kid. Railroad tracks are great for it.
re: #98 by bellamags
Oprah Winfrey ?
re: #95 by waldensianspirit
Ok, but who is the real deal & who is the junior deity?
re: #97 by BuddyG
Ha. That reminds me of the scene in Stand by me where the kids were arguing over who would win in a fight between Superman and Mighty Mouse. The conclusion was Superman was a real guy.
re: #100 by RIX
You know what Rix? You are very correct on this.
I found this site because I saw it referred to on 1.0
re: #98 by bellamagss
I don’t know but I’m sure it can be googled.
re: #103 by RIX
Now you’ve reached the tough questions
re: #100 by RIX
As Rodan likes to say. 1.0 is our best recruiter.
re: #100 by RIX
The Obama administration is making a huge mistake I agree with you.
Obama has never been criticized, EVER. He can’t handle it and his cronies circle the wagons to protect their Messiah. Makes me effing sick.
re: #102 by BuddyG
Ha. More like Whoopi Goldberg.
re: #106 by song_and_dance_man
Jean Claude Van Damme. (sp?)
re: #105 by typicalwhitey
I think that is true for a lot of us.
CJ’s comments & those of his minions were so over the top that I had to see for myself.
I discovered that the people that I like & enjoy are here,.
re: #100 by RIX
If not for CJ, I wouldn’t know about this place OR about Glenn Beck. Last year, I had no idea who Glenn Beck was (aside from a hilarious Obama National Anthem song that he’d released on YouTube). I don’t watch CNN so I’d never seen him and I’d never heard much about him.
Then CJ started freaking out about Glenn Beck and I started watching Beck on Fox. The advertiser boycott episode also brought Beck a much bigger audience.
It took some time one evening to find Blogmocracy after watching CJ whining about it.
Liberals have no idea how much they help us sometimes when they whine.
Glenn Beck presents the Obama National Anthem
re: #104 by song_and_dance_man
Alien vs Predator
Superman vs Mighty Mouse
Obama vs FoxNews
re: #111 by bellamags
Oh never mind, he was fired. I probably should have googled that myself. damn, sorry.
re: #109 by bellamags
Bho has a thin skin, but propping up FNC & that is what he is inadvertently doing is a mistake.
re: #111 by bellamags
Now that is interesting. I rarely look at the credits for flicks but next time I watch it I will be looking.
See ya!
re: #109 by bellamags
Obama believes if he just SAYS something, everyone will believe him.
Because that is what has happened his whole life!
re: #119 by typicalwhitey
poster boy for affirmative action
OT/ Pentagon man arrested on Israel spy attempt charge
Scientist charged with improperly passing on classified information
What Did The Moon Scientist Spy Tell The Israelis? Some Clues
Scientist who worked for gov’t accused of spying
re: #32 by song_and_dance_man
It does give one pause as to just how the “media” will react to being told outright they’re a bunch of stooges for the government of Zero and the Donks.
At least Larry, Moe and Curley were entertaining.
re: #117 by song_and_dance_man
I was incorrect. After you said google, I did. He started off the part but was fired. I have believed that for 20 years. That blows.
Large Hadron Collider ‘Being Sabotaged from the Future’
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Scientists claim the giant atom-smashing Large Hadron Collider (LHC) is being jinxed from the future to save the world.
In a bizarre sci-fi theory, Danish physicist Dr Holger Bech Nielsen and Dr Masao Ninomiya from Japan claim nature is trying to prevent the LHC from finding the elusive Higgs boson. Called the “God particle,” the theoretical boson could explain the origins of mass in the universe — if physicists can find the darn thing.
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,568528,00.html?test=latestnews
re: #81 by typicalwhitey
Racist? Seems like good sense.
Oh, Typicalwhitey, enjoy som music from the Average White Band
Good stuff
re: #122 by Carolina Girl
I’m inclined to think they accept and cherish the role. They are on the same team after all.
Well the kitchen and my sons tummy beckons. BBL
O.T.
From Russia with Love
re: #124 by mawskrat
Great drama!
/scaling to the LHC dimensions wouldn’t have anything to do with it.
re: #113 by Eliana
It’s called “the Law of Unintended Concequences”.
re: #125 by MacDuff
Thats what I thought too Mac.
And thanks for the link
Bass player is yummy!
I’m surprised this didn’t get eleventy downdings:
Short version: stop saying teh stupid. It makes you look dumb.
Looks like there are still a few functioning neurons over there.
re: #125 by MacDuff
I have white trash tune for ya.lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0aqPjnrosA
As if we need another reason to oppose Gov healthcare.They already have our kids minds now they want their bodies.This is monstrous.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=109450#
So two comments later, LVQ steps right in it:
Hey Ludwig. Psst!!! ^^#69^^
re: #133 by snork
Has he been banned?
Anyone see spacejesus posting over there? No?
Hahaaha
re: #136 by snork
Wiggie should go for a swim off a short pier into that 200 foot high surf.
re: #133 by snork
Well since ya wrote it;-)
Another one smells the BS:
Oh Walter…how ya gonna spin this one….
And right on cue, in the next comment, in full frontal blowhard mode:
Oh, lordy. Oh, lordy, lordy.
re: #136 by snork
God save us from these psuedo-scientific types! Back in the 60s and 70s society listend to “college students” as though they had the answer, that thinking has delivered us to where we are today.
“Science” can be a false god, for it’s ever changing. There are few theories that were in vogue even 20-30 years ago that are still relevant.
re: #101 by waldensianspirit
We used to do that too, great fun. Some other stuff too that thank G-d my parents never found out about.
re: #142 by snork
That is not the writings of a scientist
re: #73 by bellamags
I don’t understand why heavenly manifestations need to appear in tacos or slices of toast.
I don’t understand why verses from the Koran need to appear on children’s skin or the scales of fish.
Cheap vaudeville tricks trump the ever-present wonders of creation?
re: #146 by buzzsawmonkey
It’s a Baal thing
re: #143 by MacDuff
Hey didn’t you know? For the only intellectuals post 1960, science is god and hope is prayer.
I think LVQ is losing some of his cred:
And that got 4 updings! Ladies and gentlemen, there is some evidence of intelligent life at 1.0. Stay tuned.
Never cared for Picasso or Dali myself.
re: #141 by typicalwhitey
The funny thing is that Albert Einstein, likely the greatest mind of the last 200 years was quite an introspective and spirtual man, and an avid believer in God.
meanwhile…Back in the USA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyBIfgj2jrY&feature=related
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//I just don’t hink 50 cent can come close.lol
re: #146 by buzzsawmonkey
I have a few thoughts about vaudeville tricks and the Bible…but I think I’ll keep the few friends I have around here.
re: #147 by waldensianspirit
All I can say is, it’s a racket, Baal.
I knew AGW was a bullsheet theory the minute they had to begin calling it “climate change” when the temperatures began to drop.
Still wondering where all those Category 5 hurricanes Goracle was predicting went to. And let’s not forget Goracle saying we were going to burn up in 10 years – I think that ws 6 years ago.
Do I believe we should recycle, that we should conserve resources where we can? Absolutely. Do I believe we should legislate behavior, mandate cars be unsafe due to CAFE standards, that order mercury laden light bulbs in homes? Absolutely not.
re: #145 by waldensianspirit
Really?
re: #150 by Rule303
WHAT? You don’t like my Art?
Get off my blog!
/
How about my music?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKky80QxR0Q&NR=1
(wish I could find a better recording online)
re: #148 by WrathofG-d
Heh, well phrased, Wrath!
re: #151 by MacDuff
Dr. Einstein was also a champion of skepticism.
re: #146 by buzzsawmonkey
LOL. Indeed, preach Brother!
re: #149 by snork
I wonder if the updings came from our sockpuppets lurking over there.
re: #156 by snork
The poor guy doesn’t know you can compute the orbit of the sun around the earth.
And here we have Walter’s baffle ‘em with bullshit…must conform to cj’s mindset…answer:
Then we have this:
Oh, really Chuckles? Realclimate is a lily pure font of scientific purity and righteousness and truth and beauty and sweetness and light? And they have no political connections, and no political ax to grind? And Exxonsecrets is the same? No political ax to grind at all, right?
And and refresh my memory about your statements about ExxonMobil “front groups”, you conspiracy theorizing hippy freak.
re: #157 by WrathofG-d
Hmmm, yes, well, I always appreciated Escher. Will that do?
Woooooo whooooooooooo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=urfVLXBzvl8
re: #146 by buzzsawmonkey
I wondered the same thing when David Blaine visited Africa.
re: #136 by snork
Seems that Ludwig doesn’t get it that “it’s precisely this sort of absolutist statement that winds up causing all sorts of problems, a point which seems to be lost on Ludwig.” [courtesy of SixDegrees, to whom Ludwig was responding]
Arguing with Ludwig might be fun for a while, but like lasering ants with a magnifying glass, it would quickly get boring.
Oh barf. There’s even a photo on the page of the “couple” kissing. BARF.
re: #167 by bellamags
I missed that one. When did he go, and why? Did he find an epiphany at the Sphinx, or delving about the Olduvai Gorge?
re: #162 by waldensianspirit
IIRC, let’s see….oh yeah, 365 days, give or take. Did I get it right?
re: #81 by typicalwhitey
Actually, it’s from a Russian saying: Take care of the kopeks and the rubles will take care of themselves.
Good Lord Almighty. “Please Put Your Shirt On, Sir” does not come anywhere near what has to be said to that man. It is time that man stopped playing the recorder and started going more to the Y. If he put at least four times the effort into exercise as he did into playing his Pan Flute (or whatever the Hell that pipe is), he might actually lose some of that gut. Otherwise, get that man a Muumuu, or some drapes or something.
re: #34 by bellamags
re: #169 by CloudyDay
a new word, a new language, how orwellian.
re: #171 by Carolina Girl
For back-of-the-envelope, that is the time of the orbit.
re: #173 by Canoe Convoy
Plus, I would not be anywhere near as anxious as he is when advertising his, um, shall I say, “shortcomings.” So, some pants, too, along with the shirt.
Odd that Chuck would come to believe in AGW right around the same time many who had originally believed it were questioning the science it was based on.
You know, like the guy who OWNS the Weather Channel and probably had read up on the subject more than anyone else.
Oh c’mon Chuck, what “Right-Wing” talking points did you get your panties in a bunch about? NAME them.
Hey Bella.
Didn’t the threads over there have a lot more posts than they do now?
I remember them getting to a thousand, am I remembering correctly?
re: #172 by Russkilitlover
Actually, it’s from a Russian saying: Take care of the kopeks and the rubles will take care of themselves.
You kom down to kopek shop and we run off stack of rubles on kolor kopier, yes?
re: #169 by CloudyDay
Why not? Its all about love and equal rights isn’t it?
/
re: #169 by CloudyDay
I understand “Oedipussy” is playing at the local pornoplex.
re: #168 by Godzilla
TFK likes to pee in his general direction. I think it’s kind of like squirrel hunting for him.
re: #170 by buzzsawmonkey
I am just not on my game tonight. It was Haiti, not Africa. Here is a vid.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOC-4mMrrZI
I remember watching the whole show and thinking “These people must think he is the second coming”. They were freaked out – voodoo freaked
As regards global warming/global cooling, I’ve got my two-tone shoes and I’ve got my cashmere overcoat.
I’m good whichever way it breaks.
Progress & change is not always good:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpqAHfGwBLQ
awwwwwwwwwwww
I doubt Ludwig ever saw an error bar in his life. His eyes maybe saw them but he never did.
re: #186 by waldensianspirit
Error bar? Is that where fuckups like him go to drown their sorrows after getting pw3ned like that?
re: #185 by WrathofG-d
Oh, lordy. “The happy organ”? Is that racist?
Ludwig is an utterly clueless shithead. I would be mortified to ever find him on the same side of an argument as me.
Is something wrong with the site? or did everyone stop posting?
OK – time for me to close up shop and go home to the pups. see ya’ll in a while.
re: #188 by snork
Not sure if intentional, but every time you say lordy-lordy, it reminds me of Blazing Saddles.
and now some Klaus Nomi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuSrsGzhD9U&feature=related
re: #185 by WrathofG-d
Oooh, ginchy happy American music!
My I throw in a random favorite?:
Stevie Ray Vaughan and Dick Dale doing surfer music.
Wow, Angels just beat Yankess in 11th Inning.
hi kids
re: #195 by Eliana
Hurrah!
Long game!
re: #164 by snork
Here is the thing about Charlie’s statement. He is not a scientist. He can read all he wants, but lacks the actual capacity to understand anything but somebody’s talking points. That is why I also read, but make it a point to talk to actual scientists. I have learned that the Climate Change crowd have gone to great lengths to create their own branch so to speak. they have taken the trouble to create their own peer publications separate from any other branch of scientific research. Every Chemist, Physicist, Astro Physicist, that I have spoken to has said without a moments hesitation, Climate Change is Bull Shit, their words. That Charlie actually believes he could possibly weigh in on the merits of science here is astounding. Being a jazz guitarist must prepare you for a helluva lot beyond music.
Wow! The Angels looked like they were going to boot this game too. Good rally!
re: #163 by typicalwhitey
He is almost touching in his childlike faith in science that it has proven to him that the very God Who created it does not exist. Whence comes science, then? Is it a construct of man? It was not seen so until recently. Scientists sought to determine the Laws of nature, not to deny the existance of the Lawgiver. Whence comes this curious science that it answers questions unanswerable? From the mind of man, no more, no less. He declares that since proves no god. Logic denys such proof is possible. You cannot prove a negative, only accept it on faith.
Thus there is no difference between atheism and theism – both are faiths about the existance of god. The difference? One denies the existance of the trancendental while the other glories in it.
re: #195 by Eliana
1-1
re: #199 by Flyovercountry
I’m sure he understands G String Theory.
Christafari….Selah
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2N-h62clfyk&feature=related
re: #203 by buzzsawmonkey
probably not, but I wouldn’t fret over it.
Well said, Iron Fist. And your argument is right to the point, too!
Walter does not seem to realize that his introductory proposition,”science has proven G-d doesn’t exist,” is completely contradicted by his conclusion:
“If you believe G-d exists, fine, I can’t deny your belief if my life depended on it.”
He has repeated that same spiel over there sooooo many times, as if by rote, and yet every single time he does the same thing:
1. proposition
2. blah blah blah
3. conclusion contrary to proposition
re: #205 by bellamags
Please don’t start picking on each other.
That must explain his twang.
uh!
That is why we humans invented the elevator,
that is why we fight to remain free of commies like Obama, that is why we now think of putting Jimmy Carter in for the last three years of the Obama time we do know there is life after that old fool, not so sure what this commie loon fool Obama has up his dirty littlegreenfootball sleeve. Bottom of the deck dealer this Obama commie IMO.
re: #203 by buzzsawmonkey
“I’m sure he understands G String Theory.”
Plain or wound?
re: #201 by Iron Fist
science and faith are mutually exclusive. when they mix, you get bad science, or really goofy religions.
re: #207 by wolfie
He ain’t got the plectrum to do that.
re: #211 by coldwarrior
Or really goofy religions comprised of bad science.
Pun thread! Life at 2.0 is now complete.
I would rather believe in God, feel good about going to Heaven when I die and live with a purpose. If I’m wrong – well, I’ll die happy.
If I don’t believe in God, life has no meaning and I have nothing to look forward to when I die. If I’m wrong about His non-existence, I am going to burn in hell for eternity.
I’ll take my chances and believe.
re: #215 by bellamags
Sounds like Pascal’s Wager….
re: #215 by bellamags
I always tell people that the level of my belief in G-d varies—which it does—but never my belief that G-d believes in me.
This is the kind of subject matter where Chairman Charlie was hopelessly out of his depth.
re: #214 by Moe Katz
Well, first we took the funny, then we took the punny.
re: #213 by snork
You don’t think he’s plucky enough?
re: #211 by coldwarrior
Shameless post pimp:
http://www.littlegreenfootballs2.com/2009/10/19/the-invisible-undergraduate/#comment-140701
re: #220 by wolfie
I’d cross that bridge when I come to it; anyway, he’s a nut.
re: #217 by buzzsawmonkey
sweet………: )
re: #213 by snork
and nothing good can come of that
re: #216 by Moe Katz
Would you take a bet called Python’s wager?
/Let’s see if we have any computer nerds who will get that…
re: #218 by Moe Katz
Until the ocean rises 200′. Then he’ll be hopelessly in his depth…
re: #215 by bellamagsThat entails much of what I said right before I was banned for asking Cj if he believed in God in an open thread after he brought the subject up. I said this:
And then I asked him once again if he believed it God.
My banning was his way of answering the question. It is NO.
re: #222 by Moe Katz
So noted.
re: #216 by Moe Katz
I just looked that up — cool!
re: #226 by snork
He needs an intellectual lifeguard to make sure he stays in the shallow end of the children’s pool.
re: #216 by Moe Katz
It is indeed.
re: #229 by bellamags
I think you just reinvented it
re: #201 by Iron Fist
I want to follow that up a bit. While we all know that Liberals famously don’t think they feel (or more acurately, emote), how awful must the world of someone like Walter be where there is nothing transendental. People with no emotions are not to be envied, but to be pitied. The can’t even begin to taste the fullness of the human experience. What is life without love? Love (like God) can not be touched, not be measured, quantified, counted, nor stored. It is no more scientific than angles wings, yet what more nourishing balm for the wounded soul (another “thing” with neither form nor quantifiable component).
As I said, people with no emotions are to be pitied. Science, cold as it is, can classify them. They are called sociopaths, and are deemed to be a diseased mind (another imperfectly quantifiable entity that can be, to a degree, measured and classified. No one disputes the existance of the mind, nor that the mind appears to be an artefact of the brain (at least to the degree such a thing can be quantified), but you can butcher the brain and destroy the mind, but you cannot cut the mind free from the brain nor take the measure of its weight, texture, or taste.
I could go on for some time. Those who deny the existance of things we cannot quantify, taste, touch, bottle, preserve, or otherwise deal with in a “scientific” manner are manyfold. That one such entity is what people of faith call “God” is not a mark against them. Rather it is the cold “rationalist” who, when confronted with the many things that cannot be quantified, nor touched, nor tasted, nor felt in the physical sense of touch, denies thei importance when he cannot deny their existance all together. Such a man is to be pitied, but never trusted. He is crippled in ways his fundamental handicap precludes him from realizing, let alone compensating for or overcomming.
In short, he is damned to a poor existence in this world, and not even that in the next.
re: #227 by song_and_dance_man
you probably scared him and he banned you cuz he couldn’t deal.
re: #163 by typicalwhitey
Translated Wig’s post is approximately:
This is
1. a sophmoric fallacy and
2. a standard he does not apply to AGW or other myths in which he chooses to believe.
Did someone say he claims to be a scientist?
re: #228 by wolfie
Where’d you pickup that amp?
re: #235 by Crusader Rabbit
Yes, I noted that—he thinks you can prove the null hypothesis.
re: #221 by buzzsawmonkey
well done!!!
your dad gets a ‘well reasoned’.
as the representative and chair of the awards committee here at the 2.0 country club, i am pleased to inform you that your father has been awarded the “well reasoned” award.
“well reasoned”! hoorah!
the cc has spoken!
re: #221 by buzzsawmonkey
That’s a really good one. Well worth the pimpery!
re: #237 by Moe Katz
prove a null hypothesis?
nope…one can try….and one would look awfully foolish.
re: #237 by Moe Katz
That is the claim made by atheists in general. It is the basis of solipsism.
What I’d like to know is this: If I refuse to look at a solipsist, will he go away?
re: #121 by CloudyDay
this just could be a diversion to misdirect from the fact they got the info some other way
they do know Obama and his will not allow tha air strike on the Iran nukes so the best way to get the job done is know what the Obama cult is up to, they know from prior spy work this is just to throw Obama’s commies off the trail
good work this
Iran is done for, Dead Country Walking.
re: #233 by Iron Fist
Except that these people don’t, in general, deny things that they can’t see. The problem is the opposite; they insist that so many things are beyond controversy when they aren’t. We saw a perfect example of this upthread from that other place. My bigger problem with atheist “scientists” isn’t that they don’t know anything, but that they’re too cocksure of things they don’t know.
Kinda like what Reagan said; “the problem with our liberal friends isn’t that they’re ignorant, but that they know so much that isn’t so”.
re: #236 by snork
Amp? I don’t do electric. Too easy. It makes my finger board.
re: #244 by wolfie
That was a whammy.
re: #114 by BuddyG
MegaShark vs Giant Octopus.
re: #245 by bellamags
You can steel it, if you’ve got the guts!
(PS- Didn’t you use to have a cute little vampire or something as an avatar?)
re: #215 by bellamags
It is a simple proposal really. If there is no God then the universe is purposeless, essentially as without form and void as anything that preceeded its existance or will follow its demise. Religion doesn’t preclude this. There are schools of Buddhist philosoiphy that posit the universe as distraction, life as futile and painful, with the greatest attainable goal (no-goal, really) being the dissapation of karma and the attainment of nothingness of being. Thus, even there there are religious precepts hat one can adopt and live by. That they are no t mine does not make them invalid.
Whatever gets you through,. gets you through. But not even these an-atman schools of Buddhist thought deneis the existance of the unseen, the unquantifiabl, or the impact of these things on the human psyche.
My belief in the non-physical costs me little, really. At it’s most blunt, yes, there are people who are alive only because murder is viewed as such a terrible sin. Even there, it is well that murder is unlawful, lest it become an overwhelming temptation to sin. After all, if there is no God, then there is really no practical reason not to murder if you can get away with it.
re: #241 by Crusader Rabbit
Oh, no. Are we entering the realm of Quantum Mysticism?
re: #244 by wolfie
Your finger won’t be bored if you have a ground fault…
re: #243 by snork
I mentioned that earlier in conjunction to this same thing. Ignorance is educatable. Stupidity is confirmed in its errors, and thus difficult if not impossible to educate. I don’t know what you do in answer to that problem. You can’t convince people of their ignorance. They will look at cold, hard evidence in front of them and refuse to see it’s existance, let alone the validity any conclusions based upon it.
You can’t fix stupid.
re: #251 by Iron Fist
You can’t fix delusional. Or stupid. But I’ve experienced delusional up close and personal, and it’s as invincible as stupid. Trust me on this one.
re: #149 by snork
I don’t he ever had an cred except with the uber-faithful.
re: #250 by snork
these puns are giving my bad vibrations, i am just going to tune them out.
re: #250 by snork
LOL! Okay, I give up!
re: #254 by coldwarrior
I give up! I give up!
In honor of the recently pw3ned climatologist of 1.0, I will present this without comment:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/earth/hi/earth_news/newsid_8311000/8311373.stm
re: #124 by mawskrat
I saw that – it takes CYA to a whole new level doesn’t it? Props to that guy.
Kinda the same idea – I recently ran across the proposition that time travel won’t be found because any time/space with time travel ultimately settles into the stable, equilibrium condition where time travel doesn’t exist (picture time travel into the past eventually, coincidentally hosing things up such that time travel is never invented in that future).
re: #256 by wolfie
stick a fork in him! he’s done!
tuning fork…get it…tip your waitress!
i quit too!
re: #211 by coldwarrior
I disagree. I am a scientist, working as a R&D programmer in a company that produces cutting-edge medical technalogical solutions dealing with blood-volumne measurments in humans. I’m not a research physician, but my job entails being conversant enouigh in the medical concepts to be able to design the software that supports our product line.
None of this precludes my being a fairly religious man (although I do not attend worship services or anything like that; my faith doesn’t require constant reffirmmation). I am perfectly capable of finding amazement at radioactive decay in measurable radioactive sources and in configuring the gamma detectors to be properly able to acurately and effectively determine the energy output in desired regions of interest on measured spectrums, and use that data from simple source level reporting to graph curve fitting to determine the radioisotopes present (I’m just getting into that area of detection. Testing for trace contaminents mostly).
So far, my belief in a supreme being hasn’t been any appreciable detrimate to my job or my ability to preform it. I don’t find that religion precludes science, and I certainly find that science precludes belief. People who say that “Science has disproven the existence of God” simply are ignoring the evidence in front of them for the existence of God.
re: #225 by snork
I give up – what is it?
/
Python the language is an abomination.re: #163 by typicalwhitey
If science has proven God doesn’t exist there is a proof somewhere then. otherwise it’s still faith projected out from the best instruments possible. one would think quantum mechanics has proven that what we observe is not really what we think it is.
re: #261 by nil stooge
Python’s great!
/As long as you’re not in a hurry…
re: #263 by snork
No whitespace like I want it is a FAIL for me. YMMV.
So anyway, what’s Python’s Wager?
re: #260 by Iron Fist
your missing my point.
faith has a set of belief structures bereft of the NEED for proof
science has a set of proof structures bereft of the NEED for faith
they are exclusive.
re: #264 by nil stooge
The updated Pascal’s wager.
re: #263 by snork
Gad, you’re not talking about BEGIN/END Pascal are you? I’ll take Python any day vs. that exercise in typing.
re: #267 by nil stooge
You must be one of those APL geeks.
re: #267 by nil stooge
And for the record, it’s not exactly rocket science to use keyboard macros to make begin, end, etc into one stroke. Most APIs have that built in, anyway.
C is for people who type with their toes.
re: #187 by snork
I doubt he ever titrated either.
“Mother” earth titrates the hell out of most every things.
re: #266 by snork
Yeah (lol) I got it before I saw your comment but after we both submitted (at least in this particular frame of reference).
re: #269 by snork
Someone (smarter than me) described Pascal as “a voluntarily worn straight jacket”. Sure you could use {} and just do a global replace, e.g., but that still doesn’t answer “BEGIN/END – wtf were they thinking, how many trees died because of that?”.
I prefer Perl – nice and terse and powerful.
First appearance of Java on this page. What up?
in my first computer class (honors program in the early 80’s) in jr high many years ago, we had to program using puch cards so we would understand the process.
then came pascal
then came the headaches
then we discovered girls. pascal was easier.
re: #269 by snork
And … if I can’t swap Vim into the IDE for my editor, I might as well type with my toes
NetBeans swaps with nobody.
re: #276 by waldensianspirit
Visual Studio does, but even then not well enough to really bother.
Hey I haven’t given up the goal of the throbbing CJ Criswell quotes, but now I’m thinking Perl and Image::Magick to make a GIF (which should animate well enough and not require JVM). But lately the prospect has seemed more like digging a long, extremely straight ditch and less like writing a poem, so I’ve managed to find other things to do.
What’s up with the nic? A Thoreau fan?
re: #274 by coldwarrior
Python seems like it’s made for punch cards. What language were you doing with them – Fortran?
re: #278 by nil stooge
yes, fortran…
now i have a headache. punchcards….mmmmm
re: #211 by coldwarrior
Judaism’s greatest philosopher Maimonides who was also a rabbi and a medical doctor established around 900 years ago that it is impossible for science and the Jewish Bible to contradict each other.
Therefore, he established the position that knowledge of the existence of G-d isn’t based on faith for Jews. It’s based on logic. He built an entire argument around this and it still makes sense in the 21st Century.
Jews are required to know logically that G-d exists rather than taking it on faith. There have been many prominent Jewish scientists and doctors in the world for quite a few centuries now and this argument has a lot to do with why this is the case.
re: #280 by Eliana
i knew i was going to get into trouble with the jews on this site when i typed that. it would either be you or wrath that called me on it.
re: #280 by Eliana
Interesting.
It’s hard to imagine a proof that doesn’t somehow stray into the meta-logical and thus introduce faith by another name.
Care to provide a ‘Cliffs Notes’ version? (I’m not looking to argue, just curious…)
(56. IslandLibertarian on 19 October, 2009 at 3:22 pm reply
A riddle:
If the total area of land: 57,268,900 square miles (148,326,000 km²), equals 29% of the total surface of the Earth, and the total area of water: 139,668,500 square miles (361,740,000 km²), equals 71% of the total surface of the Earth, how much water would it take to raise the ocean levels 200 feet, AND, WHERE THE FUCK IS ALL THAT WATER? In all the ice and snow on 29% of the earth surface? )
I really had to pee after reading that
re: #281 by coldwarrior
re: #283 by theTarCzar
And that raised the oceans by how much?
re: #282 by nil stooge
I couldn’t do it justice, but here’s a hint as to the validity of his logic on this matter…
The fact that the universe had a beginning has been part of the Jewish Bible for 3300 years.
Maimonides stated in the 12th Century that G-d invented TIME along with the universe and that G-d exists outside of time.
It’s only been within the last 60 years that scientists have recognized that the universe did indeed have a beginning (which is something Jews have been saying for 3300 years).
Einstein was the one who said that if you put the universe in a suitcase, time and space would be in the suitcase along with all the stars and everything else. Time and space are part of the universe. The universe had a beginning.
Maimonides knew in the 12th Century that time was part of the creation of the universe. As mentioned, he was a rabbi and a medical doctor (a scientist) at the time. He knew that time was part of the universe and created along with the universe 800-900 years ago.
Scientists have been catching up with Jews on this and it’s taken a long, long time to reach what Jews knew 3300 years ago: the universe had a beginning.
re: #285 by snork
well it was at least a gallon(lots of coffee today) i think madagascar got wiped out : ( sorry dudes!
re: #286 by Eliana
Correcting my sentence…
He knew 800-900 years ago that time was part of the universe and created along with the universe.
re: #286 by Eliana
Thanks!
Wikipedia’s entry on Maimonides has a whole sub-section on Maimonides’ “13 principles of faith” (and the first one is “the existence of ..”).
Is that egregiously wrong enough to be edited, or … ?
/I know ... it's Wikipediare: #289 by nil stooge
Maimonides has the “13 Principles of Faith” which is a summary of the belief system of Judaism. It’s an excellent summary of the basis of Judaism.
He also wrote “The Guide for the Purplexed” which is an explanation of his philosophy including why Jews are required to know that G-d exists rather than simply accepting it on blind faith.
Human beings have brains that make it possible for human beings to think rationally. Maimonides said that Jews are required to use our brains to think rationally about G-d.
We are not allowed to make leaps of faith.
We have to think rationally about why the Jewish Bible doesn’t contradict science and also why we can know (rationally) that G-d exists.
Jews are required to know this rationally.
“The Guide for the Perplexed,” that is.
PIMF.
re: #290 by Eliana
Thanks!
And … I like ‘purple-xed’, gonna use it in the next rebus I design. Maybe it could be my super-hero costume in Race Detective, a big purple ‘X’ on my chest
re: #292 by nil stooge
‘We have to think rationally about why the Jewish Bible doesn’t contradict science and also why we can know (rationally) that G-d exists.’
This is a loaded statement. You should first think rationally about whether or not the scriptures contradict science and then make your conclusion.
re: #294 by deleted
Realizing rationally that the Jewish Bible doesn’t contradict science is part of the process.
Realizing rationally that G-d exists (instead of taking it on blind faith) is another part of the process.
Here is one for you cultural relativists:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,26237279-12377,00.html