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Guest Blogger: Delectable
This is a call to action on ALL Blogmocracy netizens, to email their Congressmen and Senators to IMMEDIATELY drop out of the J Street Gala, to take place October 25-28 2009.
A full listing of Congressmen/Senators planning to attend the Gala is right here. Please take the time and email your Congressman/Senator, asking them to drop out of J Street, should they appear on this list.
Now, you might be asking why this action should be done. Below explains what J Street is all about, and why it is imperative that this action be taken.
J Street is a new organization that seeks to “engage” those Jews who know nothing about Israel, haven never been there and likely will never go there, in the Middle East process. Its goal is to present Jews who care little to nothing about Israel as “experts” in the Middle East, who are empowered to tell Israel what to do. It bills itself as “pro-Israel, pro-peace,” but the term “peace” is an Orwellianized desecration of the English language, in the hands of J Street.
Don’t believe me? Just check out what Jeremy Ben-Ami, the director of J Street, had to say in the Jerusalem Post, after Israeli Ambassador Michael Oren rejected an invite to speak at the J Street annual “Gala.”
You seem well aware, both as an American by birth and as a student of American Jewish communal dynamics, that the connection to Israel for a large number of Jewish Americans has become strained over time.
We’re all looking at the same research and data. A majority of Jewish Americans have never been to Israel. Large – and increasing – numbers don’t take part in the traditional communal organizations. Levels of attendance at synagogues among the non-Orthodox remain low.
There is a generational dimension to these trends as well, one you undoubtedly noticed as a respected academic in the classroom. Young, liberal Jews have even less connection to Israel than their parents and grandparents, and they talk more openly about the challenges and difficulties facing Israel and about its responses.
THERE IS good news, however. The excitement that J Street has generated and its rapid early growth indicates that there is a thirst in the progressive Jewish community – and among young liberal Jews – to find a way to relate to, to talk about and, yes, to advocate for Israel that is consistent with progressive Jewish values. We are only one facet of a new and growing movement in American Jewry that is attracting hundreds of thousands of progressive Jews into study, communal service and non-traditional observance.
Jeremy Ben-Ami is thus admitting the following: (a) he is a progressive, and his organization is progressive; (b) his organization goes after other progressives who don’t give a fig about Israel, but nonetheless feel empowered, through his organization, to speak about Israel.
But there’s more!
What exactly does J Street stand for? Does it in fact “advocate for Israel”? Or is it a water carrier for Obama and the progressive movement?
Let’s examine the evidence:
- (a) During Operation Cast Lead, J Street became famous as the only major “pro-Israel” organization to publicly oppose Cast Lead and seek a “ceasefire” prior to Israel finishing the job. Even the far-left Meretz Party of Israel, as well as “Peace Now” were supportive of Cast Lead. Recall that Cast Lead occurred after eight years of rockets aimed at Southern Israel, and was in defense of a civilian population, aimed specifically at disempowering Hamas. Source.
- (b) J Street raises money for political candidates who include Muslim Congressman Keith Ellison and Congresswoman Donna Edwards, who have a famous antipathy towards Israel. Source.
- (c) J Street publishes made up polls to advocate on behalf of its twisted policies. Source.
- (d) J Street is the only major “pro Israel” organization to publicly push Obama to NOT increase sanctions on Iran. Source.
- (e) J Street supported Obama when he pushed Israel for an anti-Semitic “settlement freeze,” that stood directly against the Roadmap that Bush published, and Israel relied upon when it evacuated 8,000 settlers from Gaza. Source.
- (f) J Street is endorsed by Stephen Walt, of famed Walt and Mersheimer fame, who wrote the anti-Semitic screed, “The Israel Lobby and Foreign Policy.” His screed claimed a cabal of Jews control U.S. foreign policy, and this caused the war in Iraq. Source.
We thus far have established a grounding in how and why J Street is a progressive, anti-Israel organization, masquerading as a “pro-Israel” organization, at war with the English language, and only pretending to be “pro-Israel” in order to distort what it means to be pro-Israel. But some people may still claim they want more evidence. So I present you with the smoking gun, so to speak, that proves J Street is openly aligned with Jihad. (and yes, I mean that literally)
J Street invited Salam al-Marayati from the Muslim Public Affairs Council (MPAC), and Trita Parsi from National Iranian American Council (NIAC) to come speak. See the full list of progressives and Islamists who will be speaking right here.
MPAC is the Muslim Brotherhood’s propaganda arm in the USA. NIAC is the Iranian regime’s lobby group in the USA. See this dossier on Salam al-Marayati.
NIAC is the Iranian regime’s propaganda arm in the USA. See this dossier on NIAC and Trita Parsi.
Other notable Jihad propagandists include: Ziad Asali from the American Task Force on Palestine, Robert Malley, Program Director for Middle East and North Africa, International Crisis Group, Oded Na’aman, Breaking the Silence (a blood libel organization), and Eli Pariser, Former Director, MoveOn.org (a George Soros organization).
This would make little sense until one examines J Street’s funding, and sees they are funded by Arabs and Jihadists.
They were told to disinvite the jihadists to their “Gala,” and openly ignored this advice.
J Street is inviting Jihad propagandists to its Annual Gala and is funded by Arabs and Jihadists. It cannot be legitimized through a large cadre of Senators/Congressmen and dignitaries.
Conclusion: J Street is Exhibit A on how the progressive movement is aligned with Islamists. It cannot be allowed to succeed.
What are you waiting for? Write a letter to your Congressman/Senator who is planning on attending the J Street Gala, today!
Update: Stand With Us on J Street – even more links and information on this progressive organization!
AND THIS IS CLASSIC: J Street complains that politicians are dropping out from their “Gala” like flies due to the scary neocons! We are getting to them! Poor babies!
Thank you for posting this important information.
Your website is rapidly becoming one of the very best sources of need-to-know information on the internet. Bravo
G-D I hate J Street
Oh and for the record I’ve been in Israel over 25 times and the J-Street Jews are just the type I DON”T want in Israel. I don’t want them here either, so….?
re: #3 by Nevergiveup
We need to write our Congressman and expose this group. Delectable has done magnificent research on this.
re: #4 by Rodan
Props!
re: #5 by Bumr50
I hope other Blogs copy this as well.
Thanks for exposing this fraud and deception!!
Pro Israel my foot! Action speaks louder than words!
Obama himself is using this same tactic. His idea of having a “special relationship” with Israel is to try to convince Israel to make suicidal concessions for the sake of a non-existent peace with enemies who are still teaching their children that it’s their moral obligation to plan on committing suicide in order to murder Jews.
Some progressives call it “tough love” for Israel, too, but there’s nothing loving about demanding that a nation of nearly six million Jews commit national suicide — especially at a time when antisemitism is increasing in the world at an alarming rate.
J Street is definitely bad news and they must be stopped.
Thanks for this thread!
I remember that the “other blog” used to do this…now they joined them!
J-Street is Progressive so it needs to be exposed.
That seems weird. Why recruit Jews who know nothing about Israel and have no intention of going there as “experts.” How does recruiting specifically a “Jew” for this role differ from anyone else who knows nothing about Israel and has no intention of going there?
J-Street is about as pro Israel as Jimmy Carter.
I will post about this on my blog and send my congressmen an e-mail on it. However my congressmen are all LLL.
Bet Hussein calls J streeters “My Jews” or something equally derogatory.
re: #11 by Russkilitlover
It’s to give J-Street cover and appear as a “Jewish” Organization. In reality it’s a Progressive front group.
Obama bragged to the Muslim world that he was a U.S. President who would LISTEN rather than dictating what others must do. So he visited the Muslim world (bypassing Israel) and LISTENED to them while DICTATING what Israel must do without even asking Israel if his demands would be possible. They aren’t.
As a result, the “Palestinians” are now making demands of Israel (pre-conditions for sitting down to talk) that they’ve never made in the entire 16 years since the Oslo Accords until now.
It’s unlikely that any peace talks will take place while Obama is President. He went to such lengths to convince the Muslim world that he’s on their side that they have hardened their positions.
The peace talks wouldn’t have worked anyway, but it shows the kind of arrogance that this ignorant man has while being totally in over his head as the leader of this country.
He claimed that he could “JUMP-START” the peace process and acquire a state for the “Palestinians” right off the bat. Piece of cake, in his view. He is, after all, The One.
J Street has the same damaging progressive viewpoint as Obama and his closest advisers who only know how to make things worse when it comes to Israel and foreign policy in general.
OT-Sorry- But WHAT IN THE HECK IS GOING ON?
Why am I presented with this idiotic balloon boy story constantly?!
re: #15 by Eliana
Neither potus or J street are friends of Israel.
Dang. Where’s Wrath? He would love this thread.
re: #16 by Bumr50
They need the money to buy a new bawoon.
re: #16 by Bumr50
I just like the sounds of it. “balloon boy”….. Do you mean there is serious news out there? I mean, The boy could have died!
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The anti J street. Wish they were more activist.
http://ziostreet.wordpress.com/
that was my letter.
re: #11 by Russkilitlover
Using progressive Jews to convince other Jews to support things that go against Israel is a tactic that the U.S. State Department has been using for decades, unfortunately. Although the U.S. Congress has been pro-Israel for a long time and various Presidents have been, the career diplomats in the State Department are another story. Progressive Jews in these positions lend the State Department legitimacy when it comes to doing things that mostly work against Israel.
Rahm Emanuel has the same job in the White House.
They forget that Israel has her own progressive Jews in Israel who argue the anti-Israel positions for them. Even the most progressive Jews in Israel aren’t usually as wacky as the progressive Jews in America who are hired to work against Israel, though.
Even Israel’s most ridiculous and absurdly left wing parties don’t support things like the “Palestinian” right of return, for example. They know that they would have nowhere left to be progressives in the Holy Land if they did this (because Israel would be gone, G-d forbid).
Israel’s progressive parties have all but disappeared in recent years, anyway. Israel’s voters know the enemy now and they aren’t buying the “Oh, if we just give them what they want, we could all live happily ever after with them” pleas anymore.
re: #22 by coldwarrior
Good going Cold!
re: #20 by Truck Monkey
Ya know it’s funny, your nic and all.
I was just saying the other day that I could see Obama, Rahm, and Pelosi as the inquisitors of Bruce Willis’ character in 12 Monkeys.
And now there’s a boy in a balloon hoax, kinda like a boy in a barn hoax
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re: #22 by coldwarrior
Awesome. He’s my Rep. too. I’ve never met him but have actually been pretty impressed by what I’ve seen via our communications. He’s been a Good Blue Dog.
Progressives use Hispanics, Jews and Blacks to further their sinister agenda. They are evil and ruthless to the core.
re: #22 by coldwarrior
Excellent,all I have is Dodd, no point in wasting my time with him.
re: #26 by Bumr50
my dad kinda knows his from past professional dealings…he’s ok for a democrat.
re: #23 by Eliana
Eliana it seems to me that J street is trying to convince non Jews in high office that they represent Israeli interests. They already have progressive American Jews in their corner.
re: #25 by Bumr50
I wonder if “Truck Monkey” is related to “Trunk Monkey”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rFvR7Bv9Fk
re: #7 by Incognito
I’ve had many heated discussions with many exceptionally liberal friends where they have defended J-Street (man, I wish we weren’t giving them attention).
What they do not seem to understand (as most destruction based, “progressive” organizations don’t) is that parroting the claims, arguments, and statements of your enemy does not make you Pro your side.
(ie: parroting the Hamas/Fatah arguments doesn’t make you Pro-Israel)
In a sane word this would be evident, and understood without question – we don’t live in a sane world.
This all may be a moot point. If Iran gets the bomb Israel may not even exist in a few years even if they never us it. So says VDH:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2259949/posts
Hopefully Khamenei is dead or dying, that could throw Iran into chaos and buy us a little time.
http://dunellanoestachato.blogspot.com/
re: #32 by WrathofG-d
Glad your here, I figured you’d like this post. Delectable really did alot of research on this.
Delectable, thank you for the outstanding research into this unsavory bunch.
re: #34 by Rodan
great work delectable. this would have slipped right past me…it will be fun to see what altmire says to my email.
and i do reiterate, he is ok for a dem. he is against the health care reform and holds town meetings where he states that. his record is blue dog dem, so its fun to have a jab in the eye of the 0 from here.
re: #36 by coldwarrior
Atlas Shrugs does posts on J street every now and then.
This organization makes a pretense of being pro-Israeli while cutting it’s legs out.
It remeinds of of the Libs during Viet Nam & now supporting the troops by subverting them & comforting the enemy.
I am glad you all liked my research!
There are many more articles that could be posted.
Self-professed “progressive” organizations such as J Street need their cover blown!
Another fighter in the war on Islamist extremism
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/10/geert-wilders-greeted-with-islam-will-dominate-the-world.html
One of the major issues for the traitors of J-street (as is equally for Hamas and the PLO) is that Israel be forced to give up Jerusalem.
Only today, we learn the following: (which won’t make one J-street JINO lose any sleep)
Explosives Factory & Rocket Parts Discovered in Abu-Dis (J-street & Hamas would consider this town in “East” Jerusalem)
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/172675
& for “Speranza” (who complained about INN)- a link from Jpost
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1255547734990&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
This is today when Israel has Jerusalem as their capitol. Imagine instead that “east” Jerusalem was now in Palestine, and under their complete autonomous authority. Make any “unarmed” contract you would like with the PLO, it won’t be enforced. (as it is now, the PLO/PA is under contract to not build bombs, etc., under Oslo, and Roadmap. How is that working out?)
So we are contemplating a PLO/PA “east” Jerusalem. Bombs, and rockets are being created, housed, and stored there. You must understand the where Jerusalem is in relation to the rest of Israel.
Map of Israel: http://www.faculty.ucr.edu/~legneref/landscap/africa/israel/doc/israel2.map.gif
Dead center of this map is the Jewish Holy City of Jerusalem. Thus, if the PLO/PA is allowed to control this section of land, and continue to bring rockets, and bombs into this area (they will!) it means then that they will be able to fire rockets from the heart of Israel, and hit nearly every inch of populated Israel.
This doesn’t even get into the access to holy spots, their lack of religious respect (see Jordan’s “occupation” before 1967), and the Religious reasons against splitting Jerusalem.
CONTACT YOUR REPRESENTATIVES & GET THEM TO REFUSE TO GO WITH J-STREET
re: #30 by vagabond trader
Absolutely.
They’re also teaching non-Jews in high office how to tailor their language to sound pro-Israel when they’re not.
Delectable described this very well in the post:
re: #37 by vagabond trader
i have time for one blog. i might skim past a few more, but really, i dont have the time to watch all of the sites. so i usually pick one to post at, and a couple to quickly read. so i would have prolly missed this J street thing.
A Pro-Israel group worth supporting (and would probably love your support):
Zionist Freedom Alliance
http://www.zfa.org.il/
American & Israeli Youth Work Together To Build Homes & “Claim A Stake In Their History”
http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/133869
Anyone in LA, Ambassador Dore Gold is going to appear there on Novemeber 2.Looks good.If you need the info I’ll post it.
re: #45 by vagabond trader
I’m not sure I should post this publicly, but WrathofG-d will be there.
re: #45 by vagabond trader
why would the ambassador go to louisiana? is he gonna hook up with some cajuns and go frog giggin?
re: #46 by WrathofG-d
Lucky you!!! I wonder if he’ll be in NY? Dore Gold that is. LA is a looooong commute.
re: #41 by WrathofG-d
Absolutely.
Also, Jerusalem would become a gaping wound in the heart of Israel because there would be no way to stop Arab infiltrators of any kind, including suicide bombers.
It would also mean dragging 200,000 Jews from their homes in eastern Jerusalem (not to mention an additional 300,000 Jews from Judea and Samaria).
Hamas has said quite openly that if anyone can talk Israel into giving up Jerusalem and the Temple Mount, Israel would be finished as a nation. The Hamas terrorists are making their intentions quite clear (and it’s one thing in the world that they are actually correct in saying).
Israel as a nation wouldn’t survive the “peace deal” that the Arabs OR the progressives want.
re: #47 by coldwarrior
LOLOL!
Anyway, the Sabbath approaches!
See you later!
re: #45 by vagabond trader
I wish I could go – but I did send that to a friend of mine in L.A.
re: #49 by Eliana
From my discussions with J-Street supporters it is horribly obvious that they are the definition of “useful idiots”.
They are Pro-Israel, like the Capos in WW2 were pro Jewish. (maybe even worse actually as J-Street has the Holocaust as an example)
re: #51 by Eliana
GOOD Shabbos!
(too bad you are going to miss my Shabbat thread.)
J-Street…
The Jewish equivalent of Olympia Snowe…
I should like to see the full list of invitees to the gala.
I do hope that Chomsky, Finklestein, Benin, Judt
Gideon Levy, Michael Lerner are all there.
Will the catering be kosher?
Will Whole Foods supply the food?
Will they play both national anthems? And the Palestinian one too?
Will Barenboim and his orchestra of Ishmael and Isaac perform?
Will there be gifts? Garkad tree seedlings?
re: #55 by Ed Mahmoud
If only.
They are far worse than Olympia Snowe.
re: #53 by WrathofG-d
My thoughts exactly but I was afraid of sounding too harsh.
Also – please note the lack of Republican presence at J Street.
This is very telling.
I wrote to my Congressman a few weeks ago and he’s no longer on the list!
re: #59 by Delectable
Were they not invited or did they refuse? I would like to believe the latter or is that wishful thinking?
Great post Delectable, lucky for me none of my representatives are going, but I will pass this on to all of my friends and family who do have reps going.
Thanks again!
re: #61 by vagabond trader
They were invited and refused.
re: #60 by st. wannabe
I too wrote to my Senator, and the next day she announced she was not coming!
Not likely to have much luck with my senator, Al Franken D-NY. God, it is going to be a long six years with this idiot in office.
re: #61 by vagabond trader
Even if they weren’t invited, that doesn’t mean that they would have come. Either way, there’s no shame on them like there is on the donkeys all lined up.
I think Cantor would have given them the lowdown if they were invited. Interesting that even Ron Paul isn’t on the list. I don’t think they were invited.
re: #2 by Nevergiveup
J-street invited Israel Hater former Sen. Chuck Hagel – Rino Nebraska to speak.
re: #66 by snork
There were 1-2 Republicans who were originally on the list of invitees, such as Thad Cochran of MS. However, they since rescinded their acceptance of the invite!
re: #67 by Speranza
He is delivering the keynote speech!
Here’s something also to ponder. This is a dinner. Many who might have come may have had conflicts, so this isn’t a list of all with J-street sympathies; that list is almost certainly much longer.
Of my two senators, the less moonbatty one is on the list. The more moonbatty one isn’t. I’m sure it’s only due to a conflict.
Of course, my new congressman “Baghdad Jim” is going.
re: #69 by Delectable
That say sit all. Hagel is a notorious Israel hater.
ok, i had a ballbusting, but very successful week. i feel like some wine, and will put this out to a vote!
no food is involved:
i am staring at two bottles of wine.
2005 clos du bois merlot (alexander valley)
2006 penfold’s hyland shiraz (adelaide, australia)
can i get some help?
delectable: really great post. I will do my part for Israel.She needs all the help we can give her. Especially now that we have a Islamic steeped President who is no friend to her.
re: #63 by Delectable
Bravo to them, there is hope! Sadly my useful idiot is Dodd and he loves free stuff and pandering as we all know.
re: #72 by coldwarrior
Start with the Shiraz. Then finish the merlot.
re: #74 by vagabond trader
I agree Dodd is a lost cause, but there are a number of ‘moderate’ Blue Doggers on the list of attendees who are seeking reelection!
Right now the fucked up hippie has a thread up that shows McCain quoting Mao ( probably incorrectly ). And of course the mad cock sucker is trying to say that is the same thing as Dunn saying Mao is one of her 2 greatest people. He really is a dumb fuck after all. And by the way is McCain–get lost.
re: #76 by Delectable
No such animal in the Northeast but wherever they do exist we must inform them.
re: #75 by Knightwatch
sounds like a plan!
starts for the corkscrew….
OT:
Geert (say whatever you will about him) went to London.
If you are still making up your mind (as I am) see his “welcome” and who really, really hates him.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/10/geert-wilders-greeted-with-islam-will-dominate-the-world.html
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Fri, Oct 16, 2009 12:21:40pm
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re: #76 louis
Charles,
You’re not being fair here. It is one thing for McCain to quote Mao, it is quite another for Anita Dunn to say Mao is her favorite philosopher.
Uh, no. She said he was ONE of her favorite political philosphers. The other was Mother Teresa. And clearly Mother Teresa must be a commie too, because Anita Dunn wants to destroy America.
He really should be instatutionalized
re: #78 by vagabond trader
Steve Israel calls himself a Blue Dogger, but he has really crossed over into plain old liberal territory lately.
He should not be in attendance at this shindig.
re: #81 by Nevergiveup
given some of the crap that went on in the catholoic church (liberation theology) she may have been a commie, no that it mattered in her case…just sayin.
re: #80 by WrathofG-d
He is one of the good guys. What is your reservation about him?
Charle is on another Glen Beck rant.
He found a video of John McCain using an innocuous quote from Mao & trying to make it equivlalent to Anita Dunn claiming Mao as one of her favorite political philosophers, who she always referenced.
CJ is either obtuse or he is trying to be.
re: #81 by Nevergiveup
I think it’s safe to say that he didn’t miss out on an illustrious career in law.
re: #77 by Nevergiveup
Chuckies argument is pretty thin. McCain states “it is always darkest before it’s totally black” and attributes the quote to Mao. Not exactly the same thing. Chuckies exercise in moral equivalence is a failure, as is his entire life.
re: #85 by RIX
hell, i quote mao, often…and i certainly am no maoist…viva sendero luminoso!
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re: #81 by Nevergiveup
The stupid there is epic.
And in other news, the sun rose today,and the sky remains blue.
OT, for the admins.
I submitted a guest thread about two nights ago to the blog’s g-mail address. Did y’all receive it?
The e-mail contained an attachment (a .doc file), and I’m thinking maybe it got sent to your junk mail/ spam folder?
If you did receive the e-mail but don’t want to use the guest post, that’s fine, but I’m just curious if it’s not going to be utilized or not. Thank you.
re: #82 by Delectable
No one who claims to support Israel should be involved with this group! Grrrr!
re: #81 by Nevergiveup
That reminds me, I need to start writing a preview-version of CJ’s interview/whatever with the NYT.
I have a feeling I can write at least 75% of it before it even happens.
re: #84 by vagabond trader
I have conflicts with Wilders as well.
I believe that, in calling for a ban of the Quran, he crosses a free speech line I do not believe she be crossed.
However, he is overall at least saying uncomfortable truths to worldwide progressives.
re: #88 by coldwarrior
Bet that worm Dunn has an Andy Warhol poster of the commie.
re: #81 by Nevergiveup
Yeah I heard about that and had to go look see what was happening. A lot of argument going on over there. CJ is trying to defend his position and calling it a “nontroversy”. Too many arguing against him so there may be a few…incidents in the next little while.
/but not yet, of course
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Fri, Oct 16, 2009 12:32:00pm
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re: #118 medaura18586
But Joe Stalin is not known for being a political philosopher, and you’d be hard pressed to find very many other statements he made that are quotable.
Again, it’s a point that people really don’t seem to want to understand, but it’s possible to read Chairman Mao and take away some perceptive points about politics, without admiring him as a person, or admiring what he did in China.
Nontroversy.
Yeah so he killed millions, but G-D damit Rush better not be allowed to buy an NFL franchise. Right Hippie?
Oh, F me.
From the white supremacists under my bed bunch…
re: #93 by Delectable
yeah, bannings are pretty pointless and usually produce the opposite effect
re: #81 by Nevergiveup
Mother Theresa was a creationist. Mao was a destructionist. Balance is important.
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Fri, Oct 16, 2009 12:35:48pm
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re: #146 Equable
Because you’re being willfully obtuse, and now becoming offensive to boot.
No he is making great points and your an ass.
re: #94 by vagabond trader
as an aside, i do have a couple of silks of the chairman that i have picked up in my travels.
one depicts him playing ping pong, its hysterical. i have it framed and is displayed by my busts of stalinleninmaodurzhinskietal.
re: #96 by Nevergiveup
Does Charles claim he actually watched the Dunn clip? It’s quite plain what the woman is saying. CJ is confirmiong once again that he’d rather be known as a fool or a liar than admit an error of judgment.
No wonder he’s been relegated to the trash bin of the Internet.
re: #102 by Lincolntf
It’s pretty incredible that he is pushing this line. It is indefenseable. I guess he is trying to weed out the last moderatres also
re: #77 by Nevergiveup
I always thought that he was a lot more intelligent then he is. He really is either
1. dumb
2. or so bitter, he will twist anything in order not to say “I was wrong”.
Hey anyone can quote Mao (”Power comes out of the end of a gun barrel”) but to say that he was one of your two favorite political philosophers shows dementia.
re: #93 by Delectable
I’m not sure that wasn’t expansive rhetoric but if not it does not bother me. Europe is in a pivotal battle for their entire continent as evidenced by those who “greeted” him in Britain, not to mention usurpation of liberty by progressivism. I refuse to judge Geert with American standards.
re: #102 by Lincolntf
He really is an angry son of a bitch. He has spit on all that he has stood for for 7 years.
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re: #160 Equable
That’ll do it. Bye now!
Yup, he is weeding out the moderates
re: #87 by tunnelrat
Charles sounds absolutely addled.
I am not a huge McCain fan, but he just selected an innocuous quote.
Anita Dunn lauded Mao & placed him on the same level as Mother Theresa. She admires MAO, big difference.
re: #107 by Nevergiveup
The son of a bitch is too stupid in order to hold a debate with someone. he needs the bully stick.
re: #95 by Knightwatch
i’ll bet he finds the term ‘nontroversy’ to be original and smart and proof that he is oh so brilliant! the shitions prolly love it too, and swoon everytime he uses it.
keep banning, chuckie…we can handle the increase in traffic. can you handle the loss in traffic?
I think he is flipping out before our eyes over there. I doubt Ben Hur has much time left
re: #108 by RIX
I’ll bet that selrahC got fed that quote by some KOSsack or Media Matters.
re: #101 by coldwarrior
Yeah but do you lick on them them every night? Dunn probably does to her poster with that snakey tongue of hers. OK, all together, EWWWWWWWWWWWWWW!
re: #107 by Nevergiveup
I have a feeling that Mao would’ve loved the ban stick.
re: #97 by snork
Sharmuta’s political ground is that narrow space between not being scared by communism and Islam, and being scared of conservatives who are.
Talk about “constrained vision”.
Poor Thomas Sowell and yet So-ill used.
Disturbance in the farce:
re: #111 by Nevergiveup
Ben Hur already knows that selrahC is whacked, I think he is enjoying living on the edge being one of the few remaining conservatives. Whatever happened to ward Cleaver?
Was this someone’s sock?
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re: #160 Equable
That’ll do it. Bye now!
I noticed Equable made some sense, it was just a matter of time.
re: #113 by vagabond trader
you’re right!
i do laugh at them once in a while.
i really want an enver xosha bust, but those are hard to find.
re: #114 by Lincolntf
Mao used bullets.
re: #115 by Overlook
sharmuta has no political philosophy, her only philosophy is to please what she thinks is the man who loves her – Charles F. Johnson.
re: #96 by Nevergiveup
And people have been picking out perceptive points from Mein Kampf without being controversial.??
Youch.
You got that right, Never:
re: #111 by Nevergiveup
Charles in Charge is so completely enraptured by the remarkable ass-kissing skills exhibited by his Toadies, he feels compelled to join even more of their utterly delightful chatting that proves their loyal affection, as they exclaim “Encore Charles, Encore!”
re: #121 by Speranza
I thought he paid her for all that. lol
I am very happy to say Koshs Shadow left the other place. He didn’t come here, but I’m glad he is free! I was a fan of his comments.
Blegh!
We shouldn’t be discussing the washed up, pony-tailed has-been, CJ, in this thread exposing the progressives!
His blog will be a thing of the past once we stop gving him the traffic he gets from watching a train wreck!
I am quite sure it is a matter of time until he openly supports J Street and stops being pro-Israel. From there it is a matter of time for when he will stop even pretending to support the war against Islamofascism.
I already know that, he is clearly a progressive, but he is also a useless progressive who is not influential, like J Street, Soros, La Raza, NAACP, LULAC, Peace Now, left-wing churches, etc.
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Watch: there are going to be more examples coming out of Republicans quoting Chairman Mao. Anyone seriously interested in global events and politics will have read Mao’s writings, and I really hate to tell you this — but it’s not all sheer evil.
What Mao did in China and the policies he enacted that resulted in mass murder — that was evil. I agree on that. What he wrote about politics was often perceptive in the same way Machiavelli’s writing was perceptive.
He isn’t defending Mao by using the “But the trains ran on time” argument is he? I guess he is. What a despicable asshole.
And he just keeps getting crazier and crazier:
Well, as a matter if fact…
re: #97 by snork
“There’s a marxist behind every tree.”
Ask her about that temp job she once lost because of her bigoted mouth.
re: #121 by Speranza
Sharmuta claimed to be a Goldwater conservative several days back. Yes, I chortled as I read that. She wouldn’t make a pimple on Goldwater’s ass, and doubt she even knows what he stood for.
re: #129 by snork
That said, I can’t help but LOL over that!
That is really hilarious!
Looks like Icarus has become that which he used to deride, a moral relativist.
I think Ben’s coming:
re: #129 by snork
“Hey Charles my favorite philosopher was Nazi party philosopher Alfred Rosenberg. Is that alright by you”?
/Sarcasm
Hi guys, what’s going on in this thread?
re: #132 by Delectable
Especially considering how the hippies new best friends, the progressives, went after Bush when he said Jesus influenced him. Hypocrites, maybe?
re: #112 by Speranza
I just went back & perused the entire thread.
CJ has lost all sense of reality. Seriousl he is disconnected from reason & I doubt that he could do a simple syllogism.
re: #134 by snork
ruhhh roooh!
that’s be a banning ’cause chuckie is too much a coward to take it like a man.
re: #131 by 88Cid
As W-lover she tried to fit in to a crowd on LGF that was 98% conservative or center-right. Now that LGF has gone way (and I mean “way”) over to the Left, she sounds like a New York Times editorial (obviously her research is from wikipedia). She is as much a conservative as Meghan McCain.
Strange how a communist thug and mass murderer can have ‘perceptive points’ which Charles finds innocuous and quotable.
A creationist, however must be deemed a total whackjob who is wrong about everything and unfit for any public office.
Strange how Chuckles thinks…
re: #136 by Equable
Hey welcome aboard
re: #136 by Equable
Equable, welcome. Glad to see you jumped free of that train wreck.
We now return you to your regularly scheduled thread.
This was a test. This was only a test. And he flunked.
re: #137 by Nevergiveup
I find it hilarious that any thinking person would consider it irrelevant who a politician’s favorite philosopher is.
ROFLMAO!
Anyway – people – make sure you write the letters!
This is important – we MUST expose J Street!
Hey everybody.
re: #138 by RIX
I have made a vow to only peruse the cesspool only once a day because it is no longer funny watching the train wreck, just very depressing. I am relying on people like you and Snork to keep me posted. I think he is having a nervous breakdown.
re: #145 by Delectable
I’m on it
re: #136 by Equable
welcome aboard!
re: #129 by snork
It works as well as anything for the ones with no record.
It’s funny to see CJ bend over backwards for the commies when he looks under every root and branch for signs of Nazi connections.
Shook hands with someone who was in a picture with a “coded” Nazi symbol? Evil, must be destroyed. Openly admiring murdering commies? Hey, there’s a lot of good sense to be learned there.
Any bets on when he busts out the cliche, “Communists at least had good motives, they just got carried away?” line? I say early November when the next Czar is exposed as having a Lenin tattoo or something.
re: #146 by Rightside
Hey there!
re: #143 by snowcrash
Well I was actually thrown off of the train wreck for having the unmitigated gall to argue with Charles.
I wasn’t any “sock”, I was a member of that site for almost 5 years.
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re: #196 Sharmuta
This advances conservatism how?
It isn’t about “advancing” anything — it’s about destroying enemies.
Oh yeah, ya mean like Mao did?
re: #140 by Speranza
Wouldn’t you enjoy seeing her getting the ban stick? She’s too much of a toadie for that to happen though.
re: #96 by Nevergiveup
The dumb fuck calls him “Chairman” Mao.
LOL
re: #136 by Equable
As for what is going on in the thread, a guest blogger is filling us in on the tactics of J Street and making a political call to action.
A suggestion: since this IS an important thread, let’s take the Nancy stuff downstairs. Ok?
re: #152 by Equable
Welcome, welcome!
And please write a letter to your senator/congressman who plans on attending the J Street Gala!
Saw this at Iraq The Model. When the Egyptians foolishly killed all the pigs to stop the “swine flu” epidemic they didn’t consider the unintended consequences.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/world/africa/20cairo.html?_r=4&pagewanted=1
An incredible lesson in the stupidity of dictatorial government.
re: #150 by Nikis Knight
“Any bets on when he busts out the cliche, ‘Communists at least had good motives, they just got carried away?’ line? I say early November when the next Czar is exposed as having a Lenin tattoo or something.”
A friend of mine who graduated Columbia University (a legacy grad) once told me “Communism was not really bad, the problem was that it was never practiced correctly”. I said to myself “Self, that’s what a $100,000 dollar education gets you!”
re: #156 by snowcrash
Awesome, thank you. I just read through that and am getting to work as we speak.
re: #119 by coldwarrior
I’ll keep an eye out at the flea markets.
re: #136 by Equable
Great job over there. Yo were debating someone who is now totally bereft of reason & even decency. Great job!
Welcom
re: #155 by chickadee
“The dumb fuck calls him “Chairman” Mao.
LOL”
Well he calls Obama on the right track so….?
re: #161 by Equable
YAY!
Glad to have you here!
re: #154 by 88Cid
She would probably do something horrible to herself.
Back on topic – J-Street will try to mainstream itself real soon as an alternative to “AIPAC”. Watch for Buchanan to start praising them soon.
re: #157 by snork
Good thinking.
re: #136 by Equable
Welcome…good job, I thought you were someone’s sock.
re: #162 by vagabond trader
thanks!
i am debating pulling the trigger on a chia obama to put beside my busts of past commie dictators…
re: #161 by Equable
A hearty welcome to you!
Hey Chuck – you’re loss, our gain. enjoy the stimulating Irish Rose conversations! Suckah!
re: #166 by Speranza
and selrahC also just as Delectable predicts.
re: #72 by coldwarrior
2006 penfold’s hyland shiraz (adelaide, australia)
re: #153 by Nevergiveup
“It isn’t about “advancing” anything — it’s about destroying enemies.”
Oh, brother. He is seeing enemies everywhere and is practically foaming at the mouth!
I see the posted snippets from him and all I can think of is Mrs. Carmody – from Stephen King’s terrific novella “The Mist.” “Expiation! Expiation!”
re: #166 by Speranza
J Street already is trying to mainstream itself.
That is why it must be stopped dead in its tracks before it succeeds!
re: #129 by snork
Charles has judged people on less evidence than that. He is practically the king of guilt by obscure association.
Oh, and welcome, Equable! Feel free to make sense here!
re: #163 by RIX
Thanks for that, bummer he deleted my comments. I knew the ban stick was coming but I couldn’t keep quiet on that thread.
Some people are better at prescribing bitter pills than swallowing them.
That said, I think that what Delectable is doing is amazing and I am glad to be a part of it.
re: #174 by Delectable
Just like Obama
re: #171 by vagabond trader
That way they claim that they are still pro Israel.
re: #176 by Equable
And feel free to submit a guest post anytime!
By the way – Cloudy Day – I am not an admin, so I don’t know where your post went!
Try resending not as an attachment?
Mao is more insidious than all the imaginary Nazis right wingers CJ sees behind every tree.
And yet CJ relentlessly defends this monstrous tyrant like he didn’t kill millions of his own citizens.
There are no redeeming aspects to this pos.
Who cares if he liked art.
Hitler liked dogs. So what.
Oh no! Ben Hur’s speaking truth.
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re: #224 McSpiff
Not irrelevant. But I dont think reading Mein Kampf will make you a mass murderer. Now, if you are a mass murderer and you read Mao, Hitler, Machiavelli and maybe something about Bismarck and FDR, you might be a more effective mass murderer. Books are tools in my mind.
You don’t see the relation between Mao’s philosophy and the 70 million dead from him enacting his philosophy?
any moment now.
re: #176 by Equable
He just drives away all his intelligent posters. meanwhile the threads we have here are what LGF used to post before it went insane.
I was banned 2-3 times on LGF! :-p
Anyway, this post is what they would have gotten, had I remained!
re: #175 by blueiris
Thank you, I’ll do my best.
Oh and for the record, I didn’t come here to bash Charles or hop on that bandwagon. In spite of his recent actions I still have a level of admiration for the man and feel very sad over what is happening over there. I should’ve gotten the contact information for some of the people I enjoyed an actual discourse with. I mean the only “precious” down dings I ever received were from like two people, most of them from Charles.
So I will now move aside from that and actually get involved in something, as opposed to babbling incoherently about some dopey red herring.
re: #180 by chickadee
and Adolf Hitler was a vegetarian too!
Welcome, Equable! You went out on the right side of the issue.
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re: #260 MPH
Yes, of course it is. I can’t think of many better proxies by which we can judge someone’s character from afar.
Well, you’d better start applying that same standard to Lee Atwater, then.
The asshole really doesn’t get it that Atwater and McCain never said Mao was one of their favorites? And maybe someone should point out to the Deluded hippie that Atwater is dead
re: #183 by Delectable
Our gain!. You do a great sevice educating non Jews too. BTW, many LGFers read over here so they ARE seeing your post. More eyes are better on this topic.
OT stuff.
Various people are angry at Obama over his handling of Katrina recovery, Democrats don’t agree with him over Afghanistan, etc:
Why Liberals Shouldn’t Lay Off Obama
Obama Visit Skips Mississippi
Obama hears conflicting views from Democrats
Obama greeted by ‘feisty crowd’ in struggling New Orleans, Residents still frustrated with rebuilding effort
Obama’s Tin Ear
The Biggest Disappointment of the Obama Presidency
New Orleanians: Obama’s visit too zippy
re: #183 by Delectable
I was just now pondering the difference between 1.0 and 2.0 in terms of mere quality. For example, right now at 1.0 you have a flawed arument as the top post followed by a lot of immature comments (the most reasonable being downdinged). At 2.0 there is an excellent post about something I hadn’t previously known. It was well researched and well written, and urges all to take action. The comments following are largely on point.
The difference is striking!
OT.
This Dawkins guy is incredibly arrogant:
Richard Dawkins: Creationists Don’t Read Books
Well I sent a letter to Jon Tester asking him not to attend. For some reason Max Baucus is already not attending.
re: #117 by Speranza
I really liked Ward.
re: #176 by Equable
As one of the Admins here, welcome aboard! I am so glad that Charles’s defense of Mao was the limit for you. Enjoy it here as you see, this is an Anti-Progressive blog!
Welcome home!
re: #192 by Mars
“For some reason Max Baucus is already not attending.”
He is to busy getting all his DR. Visits in before the system self destructs.
re: #193 by st. wannabe
Me too (Liked ward Cleaver0!
incoming!
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Charles,
You’re not being fair here. It is one thing for McCain to quote Mao, it is quite another for Anita Dunn to say Mao is her favorite philosopher. Mao killed approximately 70 million of his own people. If Robert Spencer said his favorite philosopher was Adolf Hitler, you would be outraged, and rightly so. Mao shouldn’t be the favorite anything of anyone in an American administration. Please read Charles Krauthammer today in the Washingotn Post and his brilliant article in the current Weekly Standard to get another perspective on this Administration. Thanks for letting me rant. We’ll get to man made global warming another day.
re: #191 by CloudyDay
That’s funny.
1) The Bible/Torah is a book.
2) What he really means is that they don’t just accept my theories, and thus not the books I want them to read.
I thought I would post this one before the psycho does. he would probably lead with an added quip about how the jury would also have Darwin condemmed to death for his work if given the chance. And futher, that this will be the fate of all of us if we allow Pat Robertson and Rush Limbaugh to create slave ships out of professional sports franchises.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6338320/Texas-man-faces-execution-after-jurors-consult-Bible-to-decide-fate.html
snip]Amnesty International has appealed to the state to commute the sentence on Khristian Oliver, 32, who is due to die on November 5.
He was sentenced to death in 1999 for murdering a man whose home Oliver was burgling. The victim was shot in the face and beaten with his own rifle.
It later emerged that while deciding whether he should be given the death penalty, jurors consulted the Bible. Four jury members admitted that several copies had been in the jury room and that highlighted passages were passed around.” [snip
re: #187 by Nevergiveup
Also worth noting that McCain and Atwater werren’t telling high-school students who to use as role models for their lives.
I thonk CJ knows that he’s blown all credibility and he just doen’t care anymore.
Official: Obama “Disgusted” with Israel
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=112998
Now, to change the subject:
re: #191 by CloudyDay
Professing to be wise they became fools…fits perfectly.
re: #116 by snork
Awesome response by Equable to being treated to the Michael Corleone style of debate.
Ok, if true, the above link is actually very, very serious!
Obama “Disgusted” with Israel for not surrendering to the PA.
182. Speranza on 16 October, 2009 at 1:07 pm reply
re: #176 by Equable
He just drives away all his intelligent posters. meanwhile the threads we have here are what LGF used to post before it went insane.
Can’t be long before it’s…
Yes,but,hitler got the trains to run on time and got people back to work.
re: #187 by Nevergiveup
Charles knows full well that’s not the context McCain, Lee Atwater and Gingrich used it. There is a difference in using your enemy’s sayings and Tactics or saying you admire them.
I used the tactics of Alinsky, does that mean I like Alinsky? No!
re: #195 by Nevergiveup
ROFL. I just figured there weren’t enough funds being offered to him there. On an aside, rumor running around here is that he will not be seeking another term, so apparently all of these new “campaign contributions” he’s getting will be his retirement fund.
For the blog admins, please see my #90 above. (Unless I’ve overlooked it, I don’t think my #90 got a reply.)
re: #197 by WrathofG-d
He said that Creationists read “only one book,” and I took that to be an oblique reference to the Bible. The Bible is not good enough for the guy.
He also essentially said that Obama supporters are intellectuals while Palin supporters are not.
Here were some of the quotes:
re: #200 by WrathofG-d
and I am disgusted with the 52% who voted for this man caused disaster.
re: #190 by blueiris
that’s because despite our animus towards He Who Shall Not be Named – this blog has far more intelligent, well read, historically astute posters. And we fact check the hell out of each other to make sure that what we post is correct.
I checked the list and saw none of my federal representatives are on it.
re: #200 by WrathofG-d
Now maybe Israel will go tell the Anti-Semite to go pound sand, the sooner that Israel separates her self from the policies of the US the better off she’ll be.
Charles defending Mao! Clearly Icarus is a Radical progressive!
re: #204 by WrathofG-d
Obama has the luxury of open anti-Israel sentiment due to “J Street.”
That is what makes J Street so dangerous!
re: #136 by Equable
Welcome, Equable.
You certainly went out on a high note!
Star Site. Hat Tip Hoosier Hoops.
http://www.starstryder.com/
re: #206 by Rodan
Hey I can quote Stalin “There is a man, there is a problem – no man, no problem. Death solves all problems” as a lesson in cynicism and ruthlessness – that does not make me a fan of Stalin or his murderous philosophy. For the record my favorite philosopher is the Stoic Emperor Marcus Aurelius and The Spaniard (Basque) Miguel de Unamuno.
re: #198 by Scott Madsen
Shrug. I don’t have a problem with that. He was found guilty, and that is one of the permitted punishments under the law.
What exactly is the criteria for choosing a punishment for the crime, other than the moral code of the chooser (and the law itself)?
Capital punishment for murder is the only law in every book of the Torah.
re: #213 by Rodan
CJ is a progressive, pure and simple.
He and other progressives hate this blog for exposing their agenda!
re: #176 by Equable
Well you did a really nice job & left with your dignity intact.
You’ll like it here.
re: #213 by Rodan
Obama likes Mao also. Charles likes Mao, Anita Dunn Likes Mao.
Anyone who has read anything about the corruption and abuses of power that occurred unders Mao’s watch in China can not assume anything other then Mao was either evil or an idiot. Probably both.
The reason progressives like Mao is that they envy the total control he had on the country and the ability to destroy what he didn’t like. Is that meglomania? Individuals in china were essentially disposable objects.
Delectable: J Street is crying that this neoconservative far-right conspiracy has cost them congressmen. Keep up the good work.
“Yesterday, in a classic “Swift Boat” move, the Weekly Standard magazine – dubbed the “neocon bible” by The Economist – launched an attack on our conference and the whole pro-Israel, pro-peace movement.
They’re working the phones – calling the offices of every one of the 150-plus members of Congress on our Gala’s Honorary Host Committee to frighten them away from associating with J Street. The most infuriating part is that their thuggish smear tactics are having an impact — already 5 members of Congress have pulled off of our Host Committee.
This is exactly how the neoconservative far-right of the pro-Israel community has – for decades – imposed strict boundaries of acceptable political conversation on Israel in this country. Cross them and prepare to feel the full effect of their smear machine.”
re: #213 by Rodan
Damn, imagine the righteous indignation that would result if you replaced Mao with Hitler. What is the difference, except that Mao killed more people?
re: #208 by CloudyDay
That attitude is, although offensive, not surprising.
However, this seems like the type of conversation (nearly perfect) for the Open(ish) Thread – now open.
Thank you Rix, Rodan and LiveFreeOr Die.
re: #218 by Nikis Knight
No problem here either. I just thought that since Amnesty Internationaal is all in a tizzy over it and the jury might have had a Creationist or two on it that the International Ponytailed Associate of Mixlodian Scale Runs might be a tad offended too.
So, should we set a place at the dinner table for Ben Hur?
re: #211 by Morgan
Do you have a link to the list?
re: #219 by Delectable
Great post by the way and I love the research you did!
re: #228 by Rancher
http://www.jstreet.org/page/j-street-gala-dinner-honorary-host-committee
re: #221 by orangecrush
I was at an “Anti-War” rally in Los Angeles not too long after the Iraq War started.
I began speaking to a person that was selling pro-Communism items. My friend began speaking to them about Communism in general then asked them why they would complain about the hundreds (or so) Iraq and American dead but ignore the 50 Million Chinese killed by Mao.
The pro-Communist quickly retorted (although I don’t have the exact numbers) that he did not kill 50 million, but only 15 million (or something like that).
Notice the emphasis on the word “ONLY”, from the person advocating the greatness of Mao.
re: #227 by livefreeor die
Not so sure about that:
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re: #323 Charles
It’s fascinating that the right wing blogs are shrieking like lunatics about Anita Dunn quoting Mao, but have absolutely nothing to say about Sean Hannity having a special feature on his show about Jerome Corsi — a 9/11 Truther, a Birther, a guy who hangs around with white supremacists.
All of that’s fine with the wingnut blogs. But Anita Dunn quotes Mao — she must be hounded out of office!
“Pathetic” doesn’t even begin to describe this state of affairs.
100% agree.
He keeps trying to suck up a bit
re: #227 by livefreeor die
“So, should we set a place at the dinner table for Ben Hur?”
He is on borrowed time. That does not mean though that he will come here. Not every person who walks away or gets banned will come here however I salute anyone who says “enough to the madness” over there.
Ben Hur just took a sip of Kool-aid
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re: #283 Charles
No, it was intended to be ironic. Irony does not equal sarcasm.
It was meant as sarcasm because she said “two of her…” in her speech.
Thanks for letting me know what my intent was.
Or did he…?
In june of 2009, Anita Dunn stated that Mao was one of her two favorite political philosophers.
She thinks she can get away with stating this publicly because the msm and leftists love to flirt with communism. She likes Mao’s agenda, his “political philosophy.” She is not referring to anything human about the killer.
CJ knows this. He knows he is defending a communist hag and a communist murderer.
He is just fucking around seeing how far he can push his sycophants. Twist their minds and scatter their thoughts in the wind. It’s inexcusable and irresponsible.
There is something really wrong with him.
re: #231 by WrathofG-d
That wasn’t Bill Ayers was it?
re: #211 by Morgan
Mine are not on there either, but I forwarded the article to all of my friends and family. We need to get the word out to as many as we can.
re: #232 by Nevergiveup
Note the consistent use of the term “wingnuts” which is a left wing derisive term of for conservatives, when was the last time you saw him use the term “moonbat’?
re: #204 by WrathofG-d
“The official claimed the Obama administration will still support the announcement of a Palestinian state within two years.”
Ok now, this is impossible and he knows it.
I am more and more convinced with each of his daily dissembling actions that this bastard is out to set the world on fire.
re: #235 by coldwarrior
It is? I thought it was about Israel with an entertainment side venue.
re: #232 by Nevergiveup
He’s still clingiong to the fiction that people are reacting to Dunn simply “quoting Mao”? Does he realize that evryone who has seen the clip knows that he’s misrepresenting the facts? It’s almost like he likes getting caught lying.
Funnily enough, he’s on a sad lonely island where every one who tries to correct him is immediately banished. The man is cuckoo, cuckoo, cuckoo…
re: #241 by davehm
i meant to post that upstairs…
sorry, i’m multitasking…
re: #234 by davehm
Mao can be rejected by any sane person based on his work and what it represents. Mother Theresa is just quoted to whitewash the rot underneath.
IMO this is just a cheap way to implement maoist leanings. Eventually Mother Theresa is either discarded as a symbol or has her history rewritten as being inspired by Chairman Mao.
re: #235 by coldwarrior
When I saw I was expected to act in the image of God while posting, I scurried right back here. Not feeling very Godly at the moment.
re: #235 by coldwarrior
Sorry, I jumped down thread to post about Zero selling Israel as a devise for the culmination of his Weltanshaung before seeing that request for moderation.
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re: #371 Ferris
re: #364 Charles
How on Earth can a Mao quote be ‘taken’ from Atwater?
For all we know Atwater said something like, “Mao was a mass murderer. Among the horrible things he said was…”.
I’d like to see what exactly Dunn claims Atwater said before attacking him and exonerating her.
Oh, I get it — she might be lying. Of course, why didn’t I see it? That’s what commies who want to destroy America would do.
Boy is he a sick fuck
re: #239 by Speranza
interesting!
good observation
HEY MODS!!!
kill my 235 on THIS thread, i miss posted it and its confusing people.
my bad.
thanks
re: #245 by Lincolntf
ditto.
re: #222 by Rancher
YAY, this makes me happy!
Let’s keep up the pressure, people!
We are getting to them!
Off topic but here is what got me banned and some may find it interesting. Oh and I wrote my officials about the matter at hand!
“No I am not being willfully obtuse or offensive. I am answering your points with counter points and not just answering with “She wants to destroy America” or citing Beck.
And again, I was going by your own logic. How is that offensive? (I suggested that I should run out and get a copy of Mein Kampf for personal growth). Did you not infer that it is okay to read the book of a bastard without taking murderous tendencies from it?
I’m not the one being obtuse here.”
re: #246 by Scott Madsen
ignore my 235…wrong thread.
re: #152 by Equable
I made a joke….cj doesn’t share my sense of humor…..he’s become quite reactionary.
re: #249 by coldwarrior
I think it is me that was confused. I missed the quote and took it to heart without following back to the context.
re: #247 by Nevergiveup
“Oh, I get it — she might be lying. Of course, why didn’t I see it? That’s what commies who want to destroy America would do.”
All his responses to people who point out that Dunn said that Mao was one of her two favorite philosophers are in the same snarky vain. He is incapable of debate without the banning stick in his hands. I never realized what a terrible debater he is because he did not post much in the old days.
re: #252 by Equable
you are in a beeter place now…and good job.
re: #252 by Equable
He is a terrible debater (as I pointed out) and without the banning stick he is impotent.
thanks, mods.
re: #248 by coldwarrior
It’s gone my friend!
re: #256 by coldwarrior
better….yinz know the drill
re: #255 by Speranza
I am not a fan of the Long haired hippie, and I knew he had turned long ago, but I think today by defending Mao, he pretty much officially went over the cliff
re: #253 by coldwarrior
10-4
So I remove my apology and restate that Zero’s a dissembling bastard that wants to see the world burn. That’s my opinion of his Weltanshaung, if I may wax sophistric…. or is that wax sophmoric?
392 Charles
Fri, Oct 16, 2009 1:52:32pm
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re: #387 Bird Dog
Funny, I guessed I missed the part where she mentioned Atwater in her speech to those school kids. It’s pretty obvious to me that she’s trying to wriggle out of the hole she dug herself in to.
But obviously, she can’t put anything over on you.
And he is a nasty bastard also
Charles is just fine with someone at the highest levels of U.S government being a Mao admirer. It’s even ok for her to do this in front of impressionable High school kids.
But he would have a problem with a guy who has a cousin who used to work down the hall from a guy,who may or may not have been in an airline terminal where a member of Vlaams Belang may or may not have flown into at some time.
re: #259 by Rodan
thanks, that confused a bunch o people.
Wow Delectable, you went through a lot of trouble for this and I applaud you. Thank you for your efforts and getting people motivated.
re: #232 by Nevergiveup
So here is my question. Do these people at Little Green slime have hearing comprehension problem or are they so willing to lose their very soul to worship Chuckels. BECAUSE now he has a McCain vid. up where McCain quoted Mao. Yes he quoted him. But it is not the same thing as Dunn for she was NOT merely quoting him. Chuckles is a LIAR once again.
re: #267 by Grimcargo
He is worse than a liar. He really is stupid. There is not other way round that.
re: #267 by Grimcargo
it isnt a hearing comprehension problem at 1.0…
it is now a left wing site that is not what it was a year ago. the soul has been sold. the transition is complete.
they want to be as powerful as kos, and as quoted as huffpo, neither will happen. 1.0 will die from lack of traffic because cj is not talented enough to pull off the switch. he fired the talent that kept his site relevant.
re: #230 by vagabond trader
Thanks. Udall and Lujan. I’ll write them and explain who J Street is and what they represent but I don’t think it will stop them from going. Once they do go however I can blast them for doing so.
re: #268 by Nevergiveup
Oh Charles is as dumb as a stone. Seriously he does not grasp basic concepts.
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Fri, Oct 16, 2009 2:02:59pm
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re: #411 captdiggs
Exactly.
Quoting Mao or any other political figure/philosopher does not automatically indicate an affinity for that view. It merely indicates educational familiarity.
Stating a person is a “favorite” certainly indicates a *favorable* view of said person or philosophy.
Very possibly. I asked back in #370 if favorite philosophers matter. I’ll go with an example. I remember that early in his presidency, GW Bush decalred that Jesus Christ was his favorite philosopher. I also remember that he did a fair amount of pandering to the religious right. Given that, do favorite philosphers matter?
Well I’m a Jew, but I’ll take Jesus over Mao any day
re: #272 by Nevergiveup
So… it’s okay if Obama’s people pander to commies, because George Bush pandered to Christians?
(Examples, please!)
Good Grief ™!
re: #255 by Speranza
He used to let the facts speak for him. But they won’t anymore, because it takes strange contortions of logic to say what he wants to say.
bbl
re: #273 by Nikis Knight
He used to let the facts speak for him. But they won’t anymore, because it takes strange contortions of logic to say what he wants to say.
Exactly right.
re: #208 by CloudyDay
“Yeah, we gots barack!”
“He gonna pay my mortgage and my gas”
Definitely a difference.
Stand With Us on J Street – even more links and information on this progressive organization!
http://www.standwithus.com/app/iNews/view_n.asp?ID=1186
AND THIS IS CLASSIC: J Street complains that politicians are dropping out from their “Gala” like flies due to the scary neocons! We are getting to them! Poor babies!
http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1009/J_Street_blames_neoconsthuggish_smear_tactics_for_conference_woes.html?showall
This is a whole blog devoted to exposing J Street:
http://www.jstreetjive.com/
re: #277 by Delectable
Good, it shows you activism can work against Progressives!
re: #87 by tunnelrat
I’m just going from long ago memories but I believe that is a quote from Hitchiker’s Guide to the Galaxy.
It is certainly NOT a quote from Mao even though John McCain supposedly thinks it is.
…but then he’s thought a lot of things that are false.
Remember this?
(Sept 2008)
“We Won! Palin Not Speaking at Iran Rally
We collected over 20,000 signatures in 24 hours asking Iran Unity rally organizer Malcolm Hoenlein to take Sarah Palin off the schedule for Monday’s rally, and he caved to our pressure on Thursday afternoon citing the fact that the rally had become too partisan. ”
http://www.jstreet.org/campaigns/we-won-palin-not-speaking-iran-rally
Beneath contempt.
Chuckles is just being outrageous in order to maintain traffic.
Either that or he’s lost his mind.
Either way, do not feed the troll.
J Street makes about as much sense as “Chickens For Col. Sanders” or “Cats for Empowerment of Pit Bulls.”
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