An Example of Republican Appeasement

The Progressive Movement is ruthless and shows no mercy. Over the last 8 years they have launched non stop attacks on George W Bush and destroyed his Presidency and the Republican Party. They then launched vicious attacks on McCain and did him in. Their response to these attacks, just sit back, smile and take the “High Road”. This strategy has lead to America falling to a tyrannical Totalitarian Progressive regime which is looking to impose a Neo-Feudal system on us. In an example of Republican appeasement, George HW Bush will meet with Obama and give advise.

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There is a long tradition of sitting Presidents courting, relying on and even plotting with their predecessors, and the latest chapter is set to unfold Friday afternoon when former President George Herbert Walker Bush, accompanied by former Secretary of State James Baker, greets Barack Obama as he steps off a Marine Corps helicopter in College Station, Texas.

At Bush’s invitation, the 44th Commander in Chief is paying a long-planned visit to the home of Bush’s presidential library to mark the 20th anniversary of the voluntarism initiative begun by the former President in 1989.

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This is pathetic and shows the Bush clan have no pride. His son was attacked without mercy by Obama and the Progressives, yet he will meet with this Traitor. This is no shocker, George Bush Sr. is himself another Quisling Naive Republican that raised taxes to appease the Left and didn’t fight back when the Progressive media launched non stop attacks on him. This was the blueprint the Totalitarian Progressives would use a decade later to destroy Bush Jr and the Republicans. What doesn’t shock me is that James Baker is meeting with Barack Obama also. Baker is a known anti-Semite Israel hater like Obama is, so they both agree on that issue.

The Republican Party needs to fight back against the Progressives. They should learn from Glenn Beck and go for the jugular of the Progressives and launch non stop attacks. Unlike their side The GOP doesn’t need to use lies, all they have to do is show the evil nature of the Progressive movement. However they prefer to get beat up,  smile and stay classy. It is time to purge the GOP of Progressive Quislings and put in place fighters who can use the tactics of Alinsky against the Left. Another possibility is that it is time for a new political party. One that stands against Progressivism and is not afraid to fight!

Update: Let this story be a warning to the Republican Party and their lack of not figting back.

Update II: I apologize to any Blogmocracy Netizen who was offended by me calling Bush a quisling. He is just an Elitist Naive fool like most of the Republican establishment. I let my frustration at seeing another Republican licking the boots of the Progressives get the better of me.

Special thanks to Lincolntf, Nevergiveup and 88Cid for calling me out on this.

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  1. Bumr50
    1 | October 16, 2009 8:03 am

    I volunteer to uphold the Constitution.


  2. phoenixgirl
    2 | October 16, 2009 8:03 am

    barf


  3. coz
    3 | October 16, 2009 8:04 am

    Good Morning and Happy Friday from the Land of Coz!


  4. Bumr50
    4 | October 16, 2009 8:05 am

    re: #2 by phoenixgirl

    Sawdust?

    /


  5. Bumr50
    5 | October 16, 2009 8:05 am

    re: #3 by coz

    Cozumel? Lucky bastard.


  6. Rancher
    6 | October 16, 2009 8:06 am

    I agree that we have to fight back, just like Rush did with the slanders. I don’t have a problem with Bush meeting Obama, he would almost have to. Can you imagine the attacks he’d get if he snubbed the one? Besides maybe Obama will listen and learn something. We can only hope.


  7. calcajun
    7 | October 16, 2009 8:06 am

    Uh, this is Poppy Bush. As much as I love him, he’s not a Reagan Republican. He’s a Beltway veteran who knows how to get along–he just doesn’t understand that the other side does not want to get along unless the GOP is following them.


  8. Bumr50
    8 | October 16, 2009 8:08 am

    re: #7 by calcajun

    He resembles a confused old man.


  9. Bumr50
    9 | October 16, 2009 8:10 am

    re: #6 by Rancher

    Rush didn’t have a chance. I think it was a set-up.

    Turns out Soros is also a bidder.


  10. coz
    10 | October 16, 2009 8:10 am

    re: #5 by Bumr50

    Cozumel, no.

    Lucky bastard, sure!


  11. Rightside
    11 | October 16, 2009 8:10 am

    Lucy and Charlie Brown = libs and repubs.

    no matter how many times charlie tries to kick the ball (get along with libs) Lucy pulls the ball away (pokes her thumb in his eye)

    You’d think they’d learn. How’d that reaching across the aisle work for you, McCain?


  12. Bumr50
    12 | October 16, 2009 8:12 am

    re: #11 by Rightside

    Squishy purple jello. McGrahamnesty. Whatever.

    GET THE F OUTTA HERE!!


  13. 13 | October 16, 2009 8:12 am

    re: #6 by Rancher

    What will he learn from Poppy Bush? This gut is a Rockefeller Republican who raised taxes and allowed Clinton to win.

    Oh wait, ha ha ha ha! Yes I hope he listens to Bush and stops fighting, so We can win!


  14. Bumr50
    14 | October 16, 2009 8:13 am

    re: #11 by Rightside

    If Glenn Beck is the dog poo on Obama’s shoe, McCain is the odor emanating from ours.

    Yes. It’s that bad.


  15. livefreeor die
    15 | October 16, 2009 8:13 am

    How many election cycles must we get our behinds handed to us before we realize that we have to fight to win? Challenge the lies and the misinformation. Challenge the media’s bias. Enough of the “let’s-be-polite-and-not-mention-the-inconsistencies-in-what-our-opponent-is-saying-about-us.”


  16. 16 | October 16, 2009 8:14 am

    re: #9 by Bumr50

    Well if that is the case, then we have to begin attacks on Soros. Soros is an admitted Nazi collaborator this should exposed.


  17. 17 | October 16, 2009 8:14 am

    I’m in a foul mood this morning. Am I the only one who feels like it’s high time to stop watching NFL football? Why give money to those jackasses?


  18. Ed Mahmoud
    18 | October 16, 2009 8:14 am

    Bush 41 is a nice guy. I really believe that. Too bad Ronaldus Maximus didn’t pick Jack Kemp in 1980 as his running mate.


  19. 19 | October 16, 2009 8:15 am

    re: #15 by livefreeor die

    I say attack the media and expose their dirty laundry.


  20. Ed Mahmoud
    20 | October 16, 2009 8:15 am

    Having been to college games in person and Cowboys, Texans and Saints home games in person, college football is a lot more fun to watch.


  21. Ed Mahmoud
    21 | October 16, 2009 8:15 am

    My boss gave me his tickets for the Texas-OU game. Bad thing he is an OU alum, but I’ll try to trade with some OU fan whose boss is a Texas grad.

    Texas hasn’t played a ranked team yet this season, and while they have consistently poured it on against weak opponents in the second half, they have been sluggish early.

    Sluggish early against an OU team whose two losses were by 1 point each against ranked teams, with the starting Heisman winning QB injured, could mean digging a hole difficult to get out of.

    And I hated Texas’ first half play calling against Colorado. All runs and 3 yard passes, which is the same as the run in that Colorado could keep men near the line of scrimmage. The first deep pass was the Shipley TD just before the half. An occasional deep pass, even if incomplete, keeps the defense honest.

    OU has a good defense. With the #1 and #2 runners on the depth chart questionable with injuries, runs up the middle and 3 yard passes will get eaten alive.

    I think Texas has a better team, but they have to be careful, or they could wind up on the wrong side of a blowout against a Sooner team trying to salvage a season ruined by two heartbreaking losses.


  22. livefreeor die
    22 | October 16, 2009 8:16 am

    re: #19 by Rodan

    Amen to that. Use their own tactics on them and see how they like it.


  23. 23 | October 16, 2009 8:16 am

    re: #18 by Ed Mahmoud

    The Bushes are Democratic moles. I believe they infiltrated the GOP to destroy it. We need to purge the Bushes and their lackeys.


  24. mfhorn
    24 | October 16, 2009 8:17 am

    The Republican Party’s been spineless for a long time.


  25. blueiris
    25 | October 16, 2009 8:18 am

    re: #17 by tqcincinnatus

    I much prefer college football. Fewer primadonnas, more pure desire, more unpredictable, less corruption (if you leave out the BCS, of course).


  26. 26 | October 16, 2009 8:18 am

    re: #22 by livefreeor die

    That’s what I do on a daily basis. When I read Alinsky’s Rules for radicals, I adopted the Leftist writing style.


  27. 27 | October 16, 2009 8:19 am

    re: #24 by mfhorn

    How can a after sit down with a man who launched non stop attacks on his son. Sorry, doesn’t Bush have any pride?


  28. 28 | October 16, 2009 8:19 am

    re: #19 by Rodan

    I say attack the media and expose their dirty laundry.

    Here here!

    But how to do it, when the media – by definition – has the microphone?

    Beck is good, but it’s not enough. We need to hammer these MSM types 24/7/365. We need to get organised. How could we go about, for instance, getting conservative bloggers and conservatives willing to email people onto the same page, so we can send out a unified message onto a thousant blogs and a million mailboxes?


  29. Nevergiveup
    29 | October 16, 2009 8:19 am

    I wish he wasn’t meeting with Obama, but I am not going to make a big deal out of the old man being gracious.


  30. mfhorn
    30 | October 16, 2009 8:20 am

    Who would you like to see the Republicans nominate in 2012? Doesn’t matter whethere the person you name’s at the top of the ticket or not, just throw a name or two out.

    I’d like to see someone like JC Watts on the ticket.

    As a Supreme Court nominee: Janice Rogers Brown


  31. 31 | October 16, 2009 8:20 am

    re: #25 by blueiris

    I much prefer college football. Fewer primadonnas, more pure desire, more unpredictable, less corruption (if you leave out the BCS, of course).

    I agree. My team is the Powhite County Community College Mugwumps.

    Mug ‘em Wumps!

    Them, and the Tarheels and Mizzou.


  32. 32 | October 16, 2009 8:21 am

    re: #28 by tqcincinnatus

    Run ads and leak it to TMZ.com


  33. buzzsawmonkey
    33 | October 16, 2009 8:21 am

    Poppy! Poppy will put them to sleeeep!

    –Wicked Witch of the West, “The Wizard of Oz”


  34. teacake
    34 | October 16, 2009 8:24 am

    re: #23 by Rodan

    Pappy is a bastard just like all the others in DC. He used his son as a puppet. I do believe W has a good heart and was not allowed to be his own man.

    A friend of mine suspected that Bush Sr beat up W just after 911 when he had all those bruises and said he choked on a pretzel.


  35. Grimcargo
    35 | October 16, 2009 8:24 am

    re: #30 by mfhorn

    As hard as it might be for one, Sarah just might be starting a third party.Course in the past, that only let dimwits win.


  36. 36 | October 16, 2009 8:25 am

    re: #30 by mfhorn

    Right now it’s grim for 2012.

    Mitt Romney – Bush style Republican. Smiles and has no fight in him

    Sarah Palin – Fighter but damaged goods

    Mike Huckabee – The Republican version of Clinton. He will adopt Democratic positions to win. However the net result is Progressivism.

    Bobby Jinda; – Another Bush type Republican.

    Tim Pawlenty – A fighter and knows how to appeal to working Class people. Problem he is not well known and is not a great speaker.

    2010 is our best hope since we need Congress to keep Obama in check.


  37. newsjunkie_ky
    37 | October 16, 2009 8:25 am

    This saddens me.


  38. Bumr50
    38 | October 16, 2009 8:26 am

    re: #16 by Rodan

    All over a football team.

    It’s about normalizing statism and redistribution according to need.


  39. teacake
    39 | October 16, 2009 8:27 am

    Might as well go with Ron Paul. LOL


  40. teacake
    40 | October 16, 2009 8:27 am

    re: #37 by newsjunkie_ky

    We are so screwed. Scary and sad.


  41. blueiris
    41 | October 16, 2009 8:27 am

    re: #29 by Nevergiveup

    I’m with you. He’s being gracious. It’s a nod to tradition, acknowledging the current presidency and reminding us that the Bush family has more class in their little finger that Obama could dream of having.
    It would be interesting if they did have meeting and Bush Sr. went on to privately rip Obama a new one. That’s what should happen.


  42. mfhorn
    42 | October 16, 2009 8:28 am

    re: #36 by Rodan

    It’s sad that being a good speaker is so important to winning. We need someone who’s able to communicate as well as Reagan did.

    I think Jindal might be better than ‘another Bush’, but maybe not.

    Pawlenty does seem to be pretty good, but I don’t know about his speaking ability.


  43. 43 | October 16, 2009 8:28 am

    re: #34 by teacake

    Bush Jr was a sucker, I couldn’t stand him.


  44. Bumr50
    44 | October 16, 2009 8:28 am

    re: #39 by teacake

    I don’t think it’s as bad as that.


  45. Rancher
    45 | October 16, 2009 8:28 am

    re: #9 by Bumr50

    Maybe.Allahpundit traces this to a Bloomberg piece which isn’t really clear if Soros was an actual partner. What is indisputable is that Checketts said he would stand by Rush and then pulled the rug out from under him.

    http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/15/limbaugh-tells-all-was-george-soros-involved-in-the-rams-bid-too/


  46. 46 | October 16, 2009 8:29 am

    re: #42 by mfhorn

    We need a speaker and a Fighter! They key is to have the fight in him. Obama I hate the man, but he fights back!


  47. blueiris
    47 | October 16, 2009 8:30 am

    re: #31 by tqcincinnatus

    Mine is UofU, hence my disdain for the BCS.


  48. mawskrat
    48 | October 16, 2009 8:30 am

    Somali Islamists whip women for wearing bras

    Residents said gunmen had been rounding up any woman seen with a firm bust and then had them publicly whipped by masked men. The women were then told to remove their bras and shake their breasts.

    snip
    ………………………………………
    http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20091016/tpl-oukoe-uk-somalia-conflict-bras-81f3b62.html


  49. 49 | October 16, 2009 8:31 am

    re: #39 by teacake

    Might as well go with Ron Paul. LOL

    Not a big RoPaul fan, but at least he believes in the Constitution, unlike most of our political class.


  50. Rancher
    50 | October 16, 2009 8:31 am

    re: #13 by Rodan

    “What will he learn from Poppy Bush?”

    Bush can tell him how to win a war.


  51. mfhorn
    51 | October 16, 2009 8:31 am

    re: #39 by teacake

    You know, if we just stuck with Economic issues, I wouldn’t have a big issue with Ron Paul. It’s his stance on foreign affairs that drives me nuts.

    BTW- what’s with the site reloading all the time? I keep getting halfway through a post, then have to start over.


  52. Bumr50
    52 | October 16, 2009 8:31 am

    re: #45 by Rancher

    Football is America’s game and they know it.

    It’s sickening.


  53. Marge45b
    53 | October 16, 2009 8:32 am

    Papa GHW Bush is in a very exclusive club which hopefully Zero will be in four years! ( A former president!)


  54. 54 | October 16, 2009 8:33 am

    re: #51 by mfhorn

    I’m not a Ron Paul fan. But his supporters do fight. I admire that, they are the only ones on the Right that fight back.


  55. Speranza
    55 | October 16, 2009 8:33 am

    Being humble to egotistical people who despise you is a recipe for disaster. They mistake your humility for weakness.


  56. Marge45b
    56 | October 16, 2009 8:34 am

    re: #48 by mawskrat

    But didn’t the womens movement in the 60’s burn their Bras?


  57. blueiris
    57 | October 16, 2009 8:34 am

    Well, I’m off to fight the good fight. Catch you on the flip side.


  58. 58 | October 16, 2009 8:34 am

    re: #50 by Rancher

    I hope Obama learns to not fight back and lose an election!

    That’s the lesson I want him to learn!


  59. Marge45b
    59 | October 16, 2009 8:35 am

    re: #46 by Rodan
    Run on Offense, not Defense!


  60. Nevergiveup
    60 | October 16, 2009 8:35 am

    re: #41 by blueiris

    yup


  61. 61 | October 16, 2009 8:35 am

    re: #55 by Speranza

    Especially since Obama constantly attacks his son. Does Papa Bush have no pride?


  62. 62 | October 16, 2009 8:36 am

    re: #52 by Bumr50

    Football is America’s game and they know it.

    Time to take up hockey!


  63. Lincolntf
    63 | October 16, 2009 8:36 am

    Morning all.
    George HW Bush is a genuine American hero. He’s also an honorable man by any measure. Calling him a “traitor” because he’s having a meet up with the current President is childish and stupid.


  64. mfhorn
    64 | October 16, 2009 8:36 am

    re: #54 by Rodan

    True. It’s too bad they come across almost as devoted to him as the Obamessiah’s disciples do.


  65. 65 | October 16, 2009 8:37 am

    re: #59 by Marge45b

    Attack, attack, attack! Ridicule you opponent.


  66. mawskrat
    66 | October 16, 2009 8:37 am

    re: #56 by Marge45b

    yes…just goes to show these men are really feminist at heart.

    ///


  67. Gypsy Commenter
    67 | October 16, 2009 8:37 am

    re: #23 by Rodan

    No, the Bush clan – in spite of their move to Texas – are simply Northeastern Republicans of the liberal stripe, what used to be called “Rockefeller Republicans”. They sincerely believe in government, and that big government helps “the masses.” The Bushes are also Anglo-Saxons, which means they think public politcal brawling is vulgar and beneath the dignity of civilized people. (I am of a similar background, but I got over it — noblesse oblige, be damned. There’s no noblesse anywhere near the Dems. If it were up to me, I’d give them all a good stomping.)


  68. Bumr50
    68 | October 16, 2009 8:37 am

    re: #62 by tqcincinnatus

    I play right wing and center. I’m a grinder.


  69. teacake
    69 | October 16, 2009 8:38 am

    If only Ron Paul didn’t come off like such a loonie. We really do need someone who is interested in the constitution and not taxing us into the poor house and growing the government.


  70. Speranza
    70 | October 16, 2009 8:39 am

    re: #61 by Rodan

    “Does Papa Bush have no pride?”

    Papa Bush is an Arab loving ass-wipe. I hate him and his two cronies – Brent Scowcroft and James Baker. By the way how did that David Souter appointment to the Suprem Court work out for you?


  71. 71 | October 16, 2009 8:39 am

    re: #64 by mfhorn

    Yes teh paulbots are loons. I’m not a fan of theirs, however I don’t attack them. Let them attack the Progressives all they want.


  72. teacake
    72 | October 16, 2009 8:39 am

    re: #63 by Lincolntf

    As I recall he was the first to admit the new world order was in the works and he seemed happy about it.


  73. 73 | October 16, 2009 8:40 am

    re: #70 by Speranza

    You saw my link to James’s baker’s anti-Semitic comments?


  74. Speranza
    74 | October 16, 2009 8:40 am

    re: #69 by teacake

    Forget Ron Paul , he should be sharing an insane ayslum cell along iwth Charles Johnson.


  75. 75 | October 16, 2009 8:41 am

    re: #68 by Bumr50

    I play right wing and center. I’m a grinder.

    I played a lot of roller hockey back in the day – no ice where and when we were at – and we pretty much just mixed it up in a free-for-all, no positions or anything.

    No pads, either, however.


  76. Speranza
    76 | October 16, 2009 8:41 am

    re: #73 by Rodan

    I was well aware of Oil Man Baker’s antipathy towards Judaism.

    Work calls for 20 minutes.


  77. teacake
    77 | October 16, 2009 8:41 am

    re: #70 by Speranza

    That’s why my friend thinks Papa beat up W the day after 911. I don’t think W really wanted to have to kiss their butts and was forced into it.


  78. Bumr50
    78 | October 16, 2009 8:42 am

    re: #69 by teacake

    No one said it was going to be easy.


  79. Bumr50
    79 | October 16, 2009 8:42 am

    re: #75 by tqcincinnatus

    Ouch!


  80. Lincolntf
    80 | October 16, 2009 8:43 am

    re: #72 by teacake

    He spent years of his life serving his country in wartime. He then spent decades more of his life in the national security/intelligence area while we went about the business of winning the Cold War.
    Throwing the words “traitor” and “quisling” around because of pissy little political differences sounds a lot like hysterical hyperbole to me.


  81. newsjunkie_ky
    81 | October 16, 2009 8:43 am

    The Biggest Disappointment of the Obama Presidency
    President Obama’s brief display of drive-by compassion Thursday in New Orleans was, for me, by far the worst outing of his presidency thus far — and the biggest disappointment.

    I covered Hurricane Katrina and its aftermath — the flood in New Orleans that drowned a great city, the storm surge in Mississippi that erased whole communities, the devastation, the agony. For weeks afterwards, I had trouble sleeping. I couldn’t forget the scenes I’d witnessed or the stories I’d heard.

    More than a year later, I covered a Senate subcommittee hearing in New Orleans on the lagging reconstruction effort. I watched as a young senator who was thought to be considering a presidential run — that would be Barack Obama — used his Harvard Law skills to eviscerate Bush-era officials for not doing enough to rebuild and revive the Gulf Coast region.

    So it was strange and disheartening that Obama would wait nine months to make his first visit to New Orleans as president. It was stunning that he would spend only a few hours on the ground and that he wouldn’t set foot in Mississippi or Alabama at all. But worst of all was the way he seemed to dismiss the idea that his administration could and should be doing much more.

    I know that local officials say the Obama administration is more responsive and more effective than the Bush administration, but that’s not saying much. What says more is that New Orleans still doesn’t have an operational full-service hospital. And that an adequate flood barrier is still not in place.

    “I wish I could just write a check,” Obama said. If that was his message, he should have stayed home. We now know that our government can make hundreds of billions of dollars available to irresponsible Wall Street institutions within a matter of days, if necessary. We can open up the floodgates of credit to too-big-to-fail banks at the stroke of a pen. But when it comes to New Orleans and the Gulf Coast, well, these things take time.

    I doubt these are the priorities Obama wants to be remembered for.
    –Eugene Robinson
    http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2009/10/the_biggest_disappointment_of.html?hpid=opinionsbox1


  82. teacake
    82 | October 16, 2009 8:44 am

    re: #74 by Speranza

    Exactly! LOL I’d rather see an honest to goodness lunatic at the helm than these scary traitors. Things need to get shaken up before it can be straightened out.

    I didn’t vote for him by the way!.lol


  83. Nevergiveup
    83 | October 16, 2009 8:45 am

    re: #80 by Lincolntf

    I agree. And unlike Jimmah, he has lead a pretty dignified life as an X-President. Want to put up a more “True” Conservative for President this time, great, but I’d cut the old man some slack.


  84. Sparky
    84 | October 16, 2009 8:45 am

    I don’t believe Palin is damaged goods. She has a 67% favorable rating among Republicans. I keep hearing she is losing the Independants. The Independents must choose between the Dem or the Rep in the end. If we pick a moderate, to apease them, just how well did that work. If they vote Dem again, which I think many now realize was a big mistake, then it didn’t matter. So let’s put out a charismatic, polarizing candidate. F the compromising crap. That’s for losers, the Dem’s use it like Islam does, and just take more advantage of the sign of weakness.


  85. teacake
    85 | October 16, 2009 8:47 am

    re: #81 by newsjunkie_ky

    New Orleans still doesn’t have an operational full-service hospital.

    Obama said that? Fucking liar. The only hospital that didn’t come back was that god forsaken Charity Hospital. There are TONS of hospitals here including University which gives free care for poor people.


  86. Ed Mahmoud
    86 | October 16, 2009 8:48 am

    .

    OT but very important

    Obama Poised to Cede US Sovereignty in Copenhagen, Claims British Lord Monckton

    At [the 2009 United Nations Climate Change Conference in] Copenhagen, this December, weeks away, a treaty will be signed. Your president will sign it. Most of the third world countries will sign it, because they think they’re going to get money out of it. Most of the left-wing regime from the European Union will rubber stamp it. Virtually nobody won’t sign it.

    I read that treaty. And what it says is this, that a world government is going to be created. The word “government” actually appears as the first of three purposes of the new entity. The second purpose is the transfer of wealth from the countries of the West to third world countries, in satisfication of what is called, coyly, “climate debt” – because we’ve been burning CO2 and they haven’t. We’ve been screwing up the climate and they haven’t. And the third purpose of this new entity, this government, is enforcement.

    How many of you think that the word “election” or “democracy” or “vote” or “ballot” occurs anywhere in the 200 pages of that treaty? Quite right, it doesn’t appear once. So, at last, the communists who piled out of the Berlin Wall and into the environmental movement, who took over Greenpeace so that my friends who funded it left within a year, because [the communists] captured it – Now the apotheosis as at hand. They are about to impose a communist world government on the world. You have a president who has very strong sympathies with that point of view. He’s going to sign it. He’ll sign anything. He’s a Nobel Peace Prize [winner]; of course he’ll sign it.

    [laughter]

    And the trouble is this; if that treaty is signed, if your Constitution says that it takes precedence over your Constitution (sic), and you can’t resign from that treaty unless you get agreement from all the other state parties – And because you’ll be the biggest paying country, they’re not going to let you out of it.
    So, thank you, America. You were the beacon of freedom to the world. It is a privilege merely to stand on this soil of freedom while it is still free. But, in the next few weeks, unless you stop it, your president will sign your freedom, your democracy, and your humanity away forever. And neither you nor any subsequent government you may elect will have any power whatsoever to take it back. That is how serious it is. I’ve read the treaty. I’ve seen this stuff about [world] government and climate debt and enforcement. They are going to do this to you whether you like it or not.


  87. newsjunkie_ky
    87 | October 16, 2009 8:49 am

    Too funny: one of the signs that greeted the won at his speech in SF was, “Mighty Nuts from Acorns grow”.

    Apparently a Tea Party broke out upon the chosen won’s fundraiser.

    http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/10/obama-holds-fundraiser-in-san-francisco.html

    http://thecitysquare.blogspot.com/2009/10/tea-party-greets-obama-in-san-francisco.html


  88. Gypsy Commenter
    88 | October 16, 2009 8:49 am

    re: #74 by Speranza

    That is a scene I would pay good money to see.


  89. 89 | October 16, 2009 8:49 am

    re: #84 by Sparky

    You nailed it. We need a charismatic speaker who will attack Progressives and go for the jugular.

    We need a Republican version of Obama.


  90. Bumr50
    90 | October 16, 2009 8:49 am

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    Jim –
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    Last week I called him ‘nuts’ on television but I’m afraid all I did was give nuts a bad name.

    I wish I could repeat some of the other names that our great DCCC supporters had for Beck in those petitions you signed, but we have to keep these e-mails G-rated.

    Thank God we have committed supporters like you who defend President Obama from the attacks by Glenn Beck and his crazy ilk. And since you have the President’s back, I wanted to make sure you don’t miss out on your chance to join President Obama for dinner later this month.

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  91. teacake
    91 | October 16, 2009 8:49 am

    Obama basically came here to shake a few hands, have some lunch and then do his photo op. It was a 3 hour visit and he had to rush off to San Franciso for some fund raiser.


  92. Bumr50
    92 | October 16, 2009 8:50 am

    Sorry for the spam, but it was funny to me.


  93. newsjunkie_ky
    93 | October 16, 2009 8:51 am

    re: #85 by teacake

    The won lies.

    My daughter was offered a job at one of the hospitals in NO. She took a position in Seattle instead.


  94. Ed Mahmoud
    94 | October 16, 2009 8:52 am

    teacake on 16 October, 2009 at 8:47 am reply re: #81 by newsjunkie_ky

    New Orleans still doesn’t have an operational full-service hospital.

    Obama said that? Fucking liar. The only hospital that didn’t come back was that god forsaken Charity Hospital. There are TONS of hospitals here including University which gives free care for poor people.

    Fake, but accurate…


  95. Rancher
    95 | October 16, 2009 8:53 am

    re: #84 by Sparky

    I agree, if anyone votes for Obama now they are definitely not moderate. I also believe that conservatism will win every time, the reason that we got McCain was because we let liberals vote in some of our primaries. I doubt people will judge Sarah on one interview from a prior election. She sure doesn’t sound stupid here:

    http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=Nzc2ZjhjY2MwMWUyM2M4NTM5YWRjYTcwMTEzZTNjMTc=


  96. teacake
    96 | October 16, 2009 8:54 am

    re: #86 by Ed Mahmoud

    What led you to find this? Hate to be so media driven about this, but this is something Beck, Rush and Hannity need to scream about if its true. Sounds too nutty to be true, but reality seems like the Twilight Zone lately.


  97. Lincolntf
    97 | October 16, 2009 8:55 am

    re: #89 by Rodan

    Why do you want your politicians to be “in the Obama mold”? That’s the opposite of what I want, and opposite what the Party needs.
    Looking for some half-baked charismatic hero that you can slavishly follow is a Leftist specialty. I’ll take an intelligent, reasonable and honorable candidate every day. Let the Lefties worship their politicians, I’ll settle for respecting mine.


  98. mfhorn
    98 | October 16, 2009 8:55 am

    re: #83 by Nevergiveup

    Jimmah’s been a fool since he was nominated.


  99. 88Cid
    99 | October 16, 2009 8:56 am

    re: #91 by teacake

    Obama basically came here to shake a few hands, have some lunch and then do his photo op. It was a 3 hour visit and he had to rush off to San Franciso for some fund raiser.

    He was met by protestors in San Francisco, however. Sweet, even it wasn’t thousands, for a Democrat to have protestors in Frisco.


  100. teacake
    100 | October 16, 2009 8:56 am

    re: #94 by Ed Mahmoud

    How can a president say something that is so not even close to reality and no one in the audience corrected him? How can he be so so uninformed on something so easy to find out is not true at all. There are probably 50 hospitals here, all as if nothing ever bad happened in New ORleans.


  101. 88Cid
    101 | October 16, 2009 8:57 am

    re: #98 by mfhorn

    Jimmah’s been an even bigger fool since he was nominated.

    That looks better.


  102. Speranza
    102 | October 16, 2009 8:59 am

    re: #77 by teacake

    Poppy’s two loathsome cronies – Scowcroft and Baker went out of their way to sabotage W. Scowcroft -an Arab lobbyists- linked up with Brezsinszki (sic) to always claim that the Palestine issue is the biggest problem when it is clearly not.


  103. Rancher
    103 | October 16, 2009 9:00 am

    re: #86 by Ed Mahmoud

    Ed, that is truly scary. However I can’t agree to this:

    “And neither you nor any subsequent government you may elect will have any power whatsoever to take it back.”

    If we chose to quit paying who in the hell is going to try and collect?


  104. mfhorn
    104 | October 16, 2009 9:00 am

    re: #98 by mfhorn

    Very true. He started out nuts and has gone downhill.


  105. 88Cid
    105 | October 16, 2009 9:00 am

    George H.W. Bush is not a traitor or a quisling, but is sadly misguided. IMHO.


  106. teacake
    106 | October 16, 2009 9:00 am

    Ed, after searching – the only sites that have this article are all the ultra loony conspiracy sites.


  107. Sparky
    107 | October 16, 2009 9:01 am

    re: #89 by Rodan

    Who’s your short list? A,nd by the way that link by Ed to WUWT #86,should be a thread all it’s own. That is crazy shit right there.


  108. Speranza
    108 | October 16, 2009 9:01 am

    re: #98 by mfhorn

    “Jimmah’s been a fool since he was nominated.”

    Carter was nominated precisely because he was a traitorous fool.


  109. 109 | October 16, 2009 9:01 am

    re: #97 by Lincolntf

    That doesn’t cut it anymore. The game has changed and the Right needs to realize this. Look at Glenn beck, he is ruthless and damaging Obama/Progressives. We need a someone who can fight and tear the Left apart.

    The Progressives don’t care about only one thing: Victory.

    Look at NJ, Corzine has launched a ruthless campaign is has tied it up with Christie. That is an example of how Progressives fight to win.

    Look we will just have to agree to disagree.


  110. Gypsy Commenter
    110 | October 16, 2009 9:01 am

    re: #89 by Rodan

    Sorry, Rodan, but the last thing we need is any kind of version of Obama, including the 1.0 version. He is even more poisonous to our Republic than the repellently stubborn and incompetent Mr. Peanut was.

    We need Republican leaders with clear heads, principles, courage, backbone, and the will to save our country from the suicidal direction Obama and his gang is taking it.


  111. teacake
    111 | October 16, 2009 9:02 am

    Found a forum about it at the Hannity blog
    http://forums.hannity.com/showthread.php?t=1685361


  112. 112 | October 16, 2009 9:02 am

    re: #105 by 88Cid

    Yeah I went overboard in my language. I’ll update my post.


  113. mfhorn
    113 | October 16, 2009 9:04 am

    re: #110 by Gypsy Commenter

    Any names spring to mind?


  114. Bumr50
    114 | October 16, 2009 9:04 am

    WTF is going on?


  115. Speranza
    115 | October 16, 2009 9:04 am

    re: #105 by 88Cid

    “George H.W. Bush is not a traitor or a quisling, but is sadly misguided. IMHO.”

    No he is not a traitor but he was an incompetent fool who should never have been president. Bush was jealous of and disliked Ronald Reagan.


  116. 116 | October 16, 2009 9:06 am

    re: #110 by Gypsy Commenter

    No what I meant was someone who has the Fighting and speaking skills like Obama. That was my point, not a shift changing treacherous coward.


  117. teacake
    117 | October 16, 2009 9:06 am

    I hate to say this but even a moderate Dem candidate like Mary Landreu could help at this point.


  118. 88Cid
    118 | October 16, 2009 9:07 am

    re: #100 by teacake

    How can a president say something that is so not even close to reality and no one in the audience corrected him? How can he be so so uninformed on something so easy to find out is not true at all. There are probably 50 hospitals here, all as if nothing ever bad happened in New ORleans.

    I’d say probably because the audience is hand picked and there is no one there who would question THE WON.


  119. 119 | October 16, 2009 9:07 am

    OK I updated my post and struck out Quisling. I replaced it with Naive.


  120. Sparky
    120 | October 16, 2009 9:08 am

    re: #97 by Lincolntf

    Why would they have to be half-baked, that is your adjective. Why would we slavishly follow? Charismatic, Intelligent and well reasoned are not mutually exclusive, I think the MSM has fed this to us for so long on the right, we believe it. If we don’t play by their rules we lose, I don’t like it, but that’s the way it is. Politics are like professional sports and as the league develops you must change tactics or be relegated to the cellar.


  121. Scott Madsen
    121 | October 16, 2009 9:08 am

    re: #23 by Rodan

    They are of the long established pre-war international oligarchy. Obama is as much or more their boy as he is Soros’.


  122. Bumr50
    122 | October 16, 2009 9:09 am

    re: #118 by 88Cid

    Questions? NEIN!


  123. mfhorn
    123 | October 16, 2009 9:09 am

    re: #119 by Rodan

    You can update posts now?


  124. 88Cid
    124 | October 16, 2009 9:10 am

    re: #115 by Speranza

    I agree, but look at the alternative we had in ‘88. Dukakis anyone?
    Yes he was so incompetent he gave us the Clintons for eight years, a fact I won’t soon forget.


  125. mfhorn
    125 | October 16, 2009 9:12 am

    re: #124 by 88Cid

    Rush used the term ‘Kakistocracy’ (government by the least qualified people in society) to describe what life under Dukakis would have been like.


  126. Gypsy Commenter
    126 | October 16, 2009 9:13 am

    re: #113 by mfhorn

    Talent is a little thin on the ground right now. Aside from Sarah Palin, there is Michelle Bachman, who seems so far to be withstanding the usual MSM beatdown, and here in Florida, Marco Rubio, who I do hope will be running for Senate in the GOP primary against the terminally annoying “moderate”, Gov. Chas. Crist.


  127. Speranza
    127 | October 16, 2009 9:13 am

    re: #124 by 88Cid

    Hey I voted for both Bush’s 4 times for POTUS – doesn’t mean I cared for them.

    Poppy Bush cannot stand rank and file conservative Republicans.


  128. mfhorn
    128 | October 16, 2009 9:16 am

    re: #126 by Gypsy Commenter

    I don’t know who I like. Jindal maybe. JC Watts certainly. I’d love to see someone like Walter Williams or Thomas Sowell run, but I don’t see that happening. Pawlenty was mentioned earlier. Ann Coulter!


  129. 129 | October 16, 2009 9:17 am

    OT: Day 2 after John Gimbel’s arrest for threats against President Obama. Still no picture of him to be found anywhere.

    I’m still continuing the research on the story I discussed in this comment.


  130. 130 | October 16, 2009 9:18 am

    re: #97 by Lincolntf

    re: #118 by 88Cid

    re: #83 by Nevergiveup

    Hey you 3 got special mention. Thanks for calling me out on the term I used. I really appreciate it and will be more cautious about it in the future.


  131. father_of_10
    131 | October 16, 2009 9:18 am

    re: #47 by blueiris

    U of U ‘86!


  132. mfhorn
    132 | October 16, 2009 9:19 am

    re: #129 by LanceKates

    He’s got to be a white, redneck racist who watches NASCAR, has 12 kids, and a wife who’s barefoot & pregnant, and lives in a shack in the hills and makes moonshine. Nobody else would threaten the Obamessiah.


  133. LGoPs
    133 | October 16, 2009 9:19 am

    re: #17 by tqcincinnatus

    I’m in a foul mood this morning. Am I the only one who feels like it’s high time to stop watching NFL football? Why give money to those jackasses?

    My dream would be a St Louis Rams stadium half empty.
    No drama, no fanfare. Just a silent rebuke saying Fuck You to the owners and the NFL.


  134. Bumr50
    134 | October 16, 2009 9:20 am

    re: #128 by mfhorn

    How do you get financially secure enough to the point that you are worried that your son might be in a weather balloon, because you own one?


  135. 135 | October 16, 2009 9:20 am

    re: #128 by mfhorn

    Yeah, JC Watts bought into the racism of electing Obama, I’m afraid.


  136. Gypsy Commenter
    136 | October 16, 2009 9:22 am

    re: #128 by mfhorn

    One of my favorite daydreams is the next GOP (conservative) president picking Ann Coulter as his Press Secretary. Man, they probably could sell tickets to WH press briefings at premium prices.


  137. Russkilitlover
    137 | October 16, 2009 9:23 am

    re: #87 by newsjunkie_ky

    Wow! Pro-capitalism, anti-socialist support in San Francisco! That’s my kind of “hope.”

    However, the fact that Teh Won is fouling my favorite and serial place to stay in SF is disturbing.


  138. 138 | October 16, 2009 9:24 am

    re: #135 by LanceKates

    I highly doubt that if a Progressive Native American was running fro President, you would vote for him because he’s an Indian. To vote because a person is a member of your ethnicity, even if you don’t agree with his views is nonsense.


  139. Marge45b
    139 | October 16, 2009 9:25 am

    re: #91 by teacake
    I heard a bunch of tea party people showed up to give Zero a SF welcome. Wonder if Zombie was there taking pictures?


  140. mfhorn
    140 | October 16, 2009 9:26 am

    re: #135 by LanceKates

    That’s too bad.


  141. mfhorn
    141 | October 16, 2009 9:27 am

    re: #136 by Gypsy Commenter

    That’d be fun to watch! I wonder if the lefties would bring pies to throw at her?


  142. Scott Madsen
    142 | October 16, 2009 9:27 am

    re: #129 by LanceKates

    Crecent City California.

    Someone local needs to hit their library.

    News articles. find out if he is native to the area. Age. High School Yearbook photo from library heritage collection.


  143. teacake
    143 | October 16, 2009 9:27 am

    re: #128 by mfhorn

    Jindal started of pretty good as gov but he is not a strong individual, seems he bends to pressure. His intentions are very good and he is honest and a hard worker. And, doesn’t have the charisma that unfortunately seems necessary these days.


  144. father_of_10
    144 | October 16, 2009 9:28 am

    GHWB as president was different than Ensign Bush in WW2 and when he ran the CIA.

    Both Bush presidents were far more liberal than conservative. They did the conservative movement NO favors.


  145. 145 | October 16, 2009 9:28 am

    re: #138 by Rodan

    I’m not racist, that’s why. heh.

    I vote for conservatives because conservatives are right and everyone else is wrong.

    Why knowingly support folks who are wrong?

    (See, I didn’t even mention guns! Oh, crap I just did…. I need to get a woman, apparently.)


  146. blueiris
    146 | October 16, 2009 9:29 am

    re: #131 by father_of_10

    Nice! ‘93 Alum.


  147. 147 | October 16, 2009 9:30 am

    re: #127 by Speranza

    I only voted for George W in 2004 because I was drunk and I hated Kerry. In 96 I voted for Perot, in 2000 I abstained as I despised both Bush and Gore. In 2008 I held my nose, drank some wine and voted for McCain.


  148. teacake
    148 | October 16, 2009 9:31 am

    We had the coolest sheriff Harry Lee w ho died just before running for Governor. He would have made an excellent president. He was a Chinese Bubba who got away with very un-PC ways to control local criminals. He was a character and a very good man. Don’t make many like him any more.


  149. mfhorn
    149 | October 16, 2009 9:31 am

    What would happen if we added ‘None of the Above’ as an option? If that wins, then we start over with new candidates.


  150. teacake
    150 | October 16, 2009 9:32 am

    re: #147 by Rodan

    LOL


  151. SciFiGuy
    151 | October 16, 2009 9:33 am

    re: #143 by teacake

    Partially agree. Bobby doesn’t like the spot light or the media coverage. I think he sucks at it. But when you need someone to get the job done, you’d be hard pressed to find anyone better


  152. LGoPs
    152 | October 16, 2009 9:33 am

    re: #100 by teacake

    How can a president say something that is so not even close to reality and no one in the audience corrected him? How can he be so so uninformed on something so easy to find out is not true at all. There are probably 50 hospitals here, all as if nothing ever bad happened in New ORleans.

    Sounds like they needed someone to yell out “Liar!”
    We need more Joe Wilson’s.


  153. teacake
    153 | October 16, 2009 9:33 am

    See ya all later, got ta work.


  154. m
    154 | October 16, 2009 9:33 am

    re: #123 by mfhorn

    Why wouldn’t he be able to?


  155. blueiris
    155 | October 16, 2009 9:34 am

    Sort of OT: latest Rasmussen poll:
    GOP 2012: Huckabee 29% Romney 24% Palin 18%

    snip
    Romney leads all prospects among voters who attend church once a month or less. Huckabee leads among more frequent churchgoers. Huckabee holds a huge lead among Evangelical Christians with Palin in second and Romney a distant third. Huckabee and Romney are essentially even among other Protestants while Romney has the edge among Catholics.

    Romney leads among Republicans earning more than $75,000 a year while Huckabee leads among those who earn less.

    Heaven help us.


  156. 156 | October 16, 2009 9:34 am

    re: #142 by Scott Madsen

    Yes indeed.

    I’m sure that Charles is on his way there, since he’s so interested in the actual truth.

    ….


  157. 157 | October 16, 2009 9:34 am

    re: #145 by LanceKates

    Get one who likes guns!


  158. 158 | October 16, 2009 9:34 am

    re: #126 by Gypsy Commenter

    I think Eric Cantor would be perfect for 2012. He would throw a monkey wrench at the Left. He is a Conservative Jewish republican. Any attacks on him can be thrown back at the Left as anti-Semitism. It would be a brilliant bold move to splinter the Democrats.

    But these are Republicans we are talking about, they don’t like to be devious.

    My ideal 2012 Ticket would be Cantor (Jewish) and Diaz-Ballart (Cuban-Hispanic). This would cause the Democrats headaches as racism can be thrown at them when they attacks. This would splinter their party as Jews and Hispanics would break ranks to support their own.

    This ticket would be Kryptonite to Progressives.


  159. calcajun
    159 | October 16, 2009 9:35 am

    re: #148 by teacake

    I remember when he put the steel pipes in a few street that ran from Orleans into Jefferson Parish. The PC types screamed, but the burglary rates dropped as the bad guys could not get into and out of the target neighborhoods.


  160. davehm
    160 | October 16, 2009 9:36 am

    Globalist!


  161. Bumr50
    161 | October 16, 2009 9:37 am

    re: #158 by Rodan

    I like the Jew!


  162. Lincolntf
    162 | October 16, 2009 9:38 am

    re: #120 by Sparky

    I have no problem with charisma. My problem is that charisma used to be just a handy tool for a politician to have in order to more effectively communicate his views. A means to an end.
    Now, charisma is considered an “end” unto itself. Despite what the MSM and recent history tell us, the most charming guy isn’t always the best President (or candidate).


  163. 163 | October 16, 2009 9:39 am

    re: #158 by Rodan

    Judging by how the left dealt with Clarence Thomas, Colin Powell, Condi Rice, etc etc etc….

    The left has no problem being extra vile to such folks. The first thing they do is remind the stupid voter (I.e, those that listen to the democrats) that this individual is no longer black/hispanic/etc.

    Then it’s ok.


  164. m
    164 | October 16, 2009 9:40 am

    re: #163 by LanceKates

    Yeah. The R next to the name means they CAN’T be whatever minority they are. With the D next to the name, they are the minority first and foremost. If you don’t like them, it’s because of that minority status.

    Republicans notsomuch.


  165. coz
    165 | October 16, 2009 9:41 am

    Lance!

    m,m,m! {m}


  166. Bumr50
    166 | October 16, 2009 9:41 am

    re: #163 by LanceKates

    There are no winners in the game of identity politics. Duck. Duck. GOOOSE!


  167. m
    167 | October 16, 2009 9:42 am

    Hey {Coz}! The Cozmeister! Cozzzoramma!


  168. m
    168 | October 16, 2009 9:43 am

    re: #165 by coz

    How you been?! How’s trix… what’s going on my friend?!


  169. coz
    169 | October 16, 2009 9:45 am

    well I finally got an account here to work for me last week. so here I am. i’ll probably only be good for the usual meaninglessness that I am well known for.


  170. 170 | October 16, 2009 9:45 am

    re: #164 by m

    Remember, prior to Obama, Bill Clinton was America’s first “Black President”


  171. Da_Beerfreak
    171 | October 16, 2009 9:45 am

    Forget about Tim Pawlenty. He’s a green RINO. If you want 25% ethanol in your gas tank, believe in AGW, and are looking forward to having “cap and trade” shoved down your throat, then Governor Green jeans is your man.

    And if you’re wondering, I’m a Minnesotan.


  172. Lincolntf
    172 | October 16, 2009 9:45 am

    re: #129 by LanceKates

    I had missed that entire story entirely until just now. Didn’t even know about anyone being arrested. Reading just your post, I would have to say you’re dead right about the race of the perp. Did the MSM do a lot of “racist right-winger” stuff, or was it just the moonbats at LGf?


  173. Rancher
    173 | October 16, 2009 9:46 am

    re: #106 by teacake

    Ed’s scary post is about the global-warming summit in Copenhagen. However because congress hasn’t been able to ram crap and tax down our throats Obama may have trouble in Copenhagen:

    http://www.csmonitor.com/2009/0918/p08s01-comv.html

    “Remember those high hopes for this December’s global-warming summit in Copenhagen, Denmark? Many nations were going to hold hands and jump together into the cold water of carbon cuts.”

    “One for all and all for one. Sacrifices would be shared equally.”

    “But Congress looks to be breaking up that party.”

    Besides, any treaty signed by the President will need to be ratified by the Senate. Not that it couldn’t happen.


  174. 174 | October 16, 2009 9:46 am

    re: #169 by coz

    well lookie here!

    It’s a coz!

    Good thing too, now that we have the rule that all new folks buy the rest of us rum!

    How’s the family?


  175. m
    175 | October 16, 2009 9:48 am

    re: #169 by coz

    Well we’re definitely glad to have ya! ! !

    *sigh* Does anyone know whatever happened to Frax?

    fraxinus americana ~~~


  176. 176 | October 16, 2009 9:48 am

    re: #161 by Bumr50

    A Jewish-Hispanic GOP ticket would be Krytonite.

    re: #163 by LanceKates

    That is the idea, let them come out with their racism, and counter attack hard.


  177. davehm
    177 | October 16, 2009 9:48 am

    re: #162 by Lincolntf

    I don’t see anything wrong with charisma either, as a matter of fact I think it’s needed to woo a certain voting block of the simple minded. I personally look at the substance of a candidate and their record to see if it backs up what they say.


  178. 178 | October 16, 2009 9:49 am

    re: #172 by Lincolntf

    Purposeful omission.

    The msm didn’t look at his previous arrests at all, totally ignored the same threats against Bush and against the cops in general.

    That let the lefty blogs insinuate that it is one of those ‘right wingers’ and many called it all racism against Obama.

    When you have that going for you, why bother for the truth, right?

    I still can’t find a picture of this guy, but the way he referred to himself in that pdf I linked to, and what he called that saundra armstrong person….. I don’t see it working out any other way, which may be WHY I can’t find a picture of this guy.


  179. 179 | October 16, 2009 9:53 am

    re: #176 by Rodan

    and which news media outlets will cover your counter?

    I say that we run good conservative men and women and ignore their race.

    That way we’re not racists.

    One’s race should enter into things just below their perferred method of eating eggs on even-numbered days.

    The left is always going to be hateful and childish, but they’ll continue to get votes because they’re also the party giving away free money, taken from ‘the rich’ and given to those without jobs who don’t want to work.


  180. m
    180 | October 16, 2009 9:57 am

    re: #178 by LanceKates

    You should have made a post out of that stuff~


  181. 181 | October 16, 2009 9:58 am

    re: #179 by LanceKates

    Counter attack with adds. I figure why not turn the tables to defeat them.


  182. 182 | October 16, 2009 10:18 am

    New post up people.


  183. kansas
    183 | October 16, 2009 10:20 am

    I apologize to any Blogmocracy Netizen who was offended by me calling Bush a quisling. He is just an Elitist Naive fool like most of the Republican establishment. I let my frustration at seeing another Republican licking the boots of the Progressives get the better of me.

    If anyone here was offended by pointing out that Bush is a quisling, true by the way, then that might show too much LGF is bleeding over here. Kind of disappointing really. Go back to LGF and kiss some Charles Johnson ass.


  184. Rancher
    184 | October 16, 2009 10:26 am

    re: #178 by LanceKates

    You’re not the only one looking.

    http://www.quatloos.com/Q-Forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3354&start=0

    Or is this your web site? Seems I’ve seen it before. Free background sites that I’ve tried to use aren’t free and I’m not curious enough to spend money to check but you might.

    GIMBEL, JOHN H
    Original Address: 225 BREVUS ST
    CRESCENT CITY, CA 95531


  185. zaugg
    185 | October 16, 2009 10:31 am

    Walter L. Newton Thu, Oct 15, 2009 7:59:54pm replyquote

    * 4
    * down
    * up
    * report

    re: #6 Charles

    Ok, I went over there, first time, and under “about”, I find this site is run by Michelle Malkin? I thought she had her own web site. And she lets that racist shit get posted? She’s not even white herself, I would think she would be a bit extra sensitive to that crap. And LGF is listed under “left” sites. WTF.

    See, I don’t like this, that’s why I don’t browse around other blogs, that shit is a cesspool.
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    Clueless aisle one. Paging clueless aisle one.


  186. Speranza
    186 | October 16, 2009 10:36 am

    re: #147 by Rodan

    Always vote for the best choice out there and Bush I and Bush II were the best choices out there.


  187. kansas
    187 | October 16, 2009 10:36 am

    re: #185 by zaugg

    Walter went over “there”? Gasp. No the reason you don’t admit to browsing other blogs is that they are on to you at the real shit hole. They are coming for you Walter.


  188. Lincolntf
    188 | October 16, 2009 10:39 am

    re: #183 by kansas

    Using the term “quisling” for GHWB is asinine. Whatever beef you have with him, he’s no fucking collaborator. Does everyone who doesn’t see things exactly like you do have to be stupid, insane or a traitor?
    Sounds like you’re the one who misses LGF.


  189. blondgranny
    189 | October 16, 2009 10:39 am

    I agree that the republican spine needs to be stiffened. I always hoped that G.W. Bush would fignt back in his last 4 years.

    It is admirable to try to rise above the fray, but I really, really wanted him to lay the smack down!


  190. kansas
    190 | October 16, 2009 10:47 am

    re: #188 by Lincolntf

    Did I call anyone stupid or insane? If either one of them cared for any of us they would stand up and point out the obvious. That they don’t seems to me to indicate they are on the same side.

    The Lizards were always getting offended by something.


  191. snork
    191 | October 16, 2009 10:52 am

    And LGF is listed under “left” sites. WTF.

    As Foghorn Leghorn said…

    Boy’s as sharp as a bowling ball.


  192. vagabond trader
    192 | October 16, 2009 11:10 am

    re: #191 by snork

    This was Walter? As they say “Oh brother!”


  193. coldwarrior
    193 | October 16, 2009 11:13 am

    re: #185 by zaugg

    walter, your brain is a cesspool!


  194. coldwarrior
    194 | October 16, 2009 11:16 am

    re: #183 by kansas

    bush sr was no quisling; a country club republican, yes.

    you may need to look up the definition of quisling which according to oxford is “someone who collaborates with an enemy occupying force ”

    can you explain to me how bush sr was a quisling?

    i await your answer so we can debate.


  195. Overlook
    195 | October 16, 2009 11:20 am

    re: #158 by Rodan

    re: #179 by LanceKates

    Yes. Once conservatives play identity politics, the game is over.


  196. snork
    196 | October 16, 2009 11:20 am

    Heh. Just figured out how to switch IPs.

    Chucky, I don’t need the proxy keyhole any more; I can see you through the wide open door.


  197. coldwarrior
    197 | October 16, 2009 11:24 am

    re: #195 by Overlook

    oh please, we dont need to do the identity politics thing, please.

    i dont care what color your skin is, or what sex you are, or even what party…as long as you arent in the islam political party, then i can vote for you, if i agree with your opinion and your voting record.


  198. snork
    198 | October 16, 2009 11:32 am

    Von Quacksalot’s blowing more smoke…

    373 LudwigVanQuixote Fri, Oct 16, 2009 8:56:02am

    re: #362 nccanuck

    So what happened to global warming. Half say one thing, half say something else. Both proven and peer reviewed. Who’s right?

    Here it is interesting that you posted that… Just upstairs int he science links I posted a consensus paper published in Science in 2004. Even in 2004 there was an overwhelming consensus.

    Esteemed comrade scientist Von Quacksalot: Thank you for supporting my approach to science. Evidence is reactionary. Consensus will shine the path to a new glorious tomorrow, when my science will allow us to make crops and livestock into anything that we wish.

    Salutations,

    Comrade Trofim Lysenko

    [Pay no attention to that denier Lev Landau.]


  199. coldwarrior
    199 | October 16, 2009 11:37 am

    re: #198 by snork

    if you try to use ‘consensus’ as the defense in a masters or phd thesis, ou will get laughed out of the room and sent away permanently.

    consensus is not science, it is faith.

    but i guess at 1.0 you can have ‘faith’ in global warming, but are not allowed to have ‘faith’ in creationism…

    interesting.


  200. 200 | October 16, 2009 11:38 am

    Special thanks to Lincolntf, Nevergiveup and 88Cid for calling me out on this.

    Look Rodan, you just don’t get it. Never let them see you sweat. If they call you out, then just ban them, delete their comments, and encourage the rest of the group to viciously make fun of them while they can’t defend themselves!


  201. kansas
    201 | October 16, 2009 11:44 am

    re: #194 by coldwarrior

    can you explain to me how bush sr was a quisling?

    Quisling, assisted Nazi Germany to conquer his own country, is a term used to describe traitors …

    I think referring to him being a quisling, however, is not about then but rather now with his collaborating with Obama. 41 and 43 could both be at least be pointing out the obvious about Obama. That they are not indicates support, or I suppose that stupid tendency of theirs to allow everyone to walk all over them without speaking up. Seriously the Democrats and Obama have whined more in 8 months that Bush did in 8 years, and this from the entire media attacking Bush II.

    But it seems to me that Rodan’s initial observation was spot on as the Bushs are not opposing Obama and the Democrats who are in fact conquering the United States. Maybe technically the term is incorrect, and I see Rodan changed Quisling to naive Republican,”I let my frustration at seeing another Republican licking the boots of the Progressives get the better of me.”

    The Bush’s sure aren’t lining up to oppose Obama or the Democrats and to my way of thinking are in effect collaborating. If you prefer the term progressive boot licker to Quisling, then I will defer to that.

    I withdraw the Quisling term and change it to progressive boot licker.


  202. coldwarrior
    202 | October 16, 2009 11:47 am

    re: #201 by kansas

    if you add ’spineless’ to progressive boot licker, then you are dead on!


  203. apachegunner
    203 | October 16, 2009 11:48 am

    re: #194 by coldwarrior

    yes, i am waiting for the response myself and it seems quite quiet in here. do we have a doink?


  204. apachegunner
    204 | October 16, 2009 11:52 am

    re: #201 by kansas

    ok, with that i agree, the bootlicker thing


  205. coldwarrior
    205 | October 16, 2009 11:52 am

    re: #203 by apachegunner

    its the friday afternoon lull.


  206. 206 | October 16, 2009 11:55 am

    re: #180 by m

    I will be as soon as I can get a picture of the guy. I don’t want to run out all half-cocked and be wrong.

    That only works when you’re right. heh.


  207. coldwarrior
    207 | October 16, 2009 11:55 am

    re: #204 by apachegunner

    ’spineless progressive bootlicker’ is an excellent term to use for non-lefties who follow the proggie agenda to wether ‘just get along’ or if they are in fact fellow travelers.

    i think we should start using it.


  208. 208 | October 16, 2009 11:56 am

    re: #184 by Rancher

    No, that’s not my site, but that is where I found the pdf I linked to.


  209. coldwarrior
    209 | October 16, 2009 11:57 am

    they can memebers of the SPB party.

    spineless progressive bootlickers party


  210. Overlook
    210 | October 16, 2009 11:58 am

    re: #197 by coldwarrior

    Perhaps my post was not clear.
    I despise identity politics, which is why I am conservative.


  211. vagabond trader
    211 | October 16, 2009 11:59 am

    re: #209 by coldwarrior

    Well imho we ARE occupied by enemy forces and they be progressive leftist Marxists. Unfortunately they are also Americans.


  212. coldwarrior
    212 | October 16, 2009 12:00 pm

    re: #210 by Overlook

    i was, in fact, agreeing with you emphatically!

    i realize it wasnt too clear, no edit function…ya know.


  213. Overlook
    213 | October 16, 2009 12:00 pm

    re: #210 by Overlook

    Which is to stay that I do not vote for an identity, I vote for certain principles.


  214. coldwarrior
    214 | October 16, 2009 12:00 pm

    re: #211 by vagabond trader

    you cant be occupied by your own citizens, unless they are zombies or muslims, both get the same treatment then.


  215. Overlook
    215 | October 16, 2009 12:01 pm

    re: #210 by Overlook

    Which is to say that I do not vote for an identity, I vote for certain principles.


  216. coldwarrior
    216 | October 16, 2009 12:05 pm

    ok, i had a ballbusting, but very successful week. i feel like some wine, and will put this out to a vote!

    no food is involved:

    i am staring at two bottles of wine.

    2005 clos du bois merlot (alexander valley)

    2006 penfold’s hyland shiraz (adelaide, australia)

    can i get some help?


  217. kansas
    217 | October 16, 2009 12:05 pm

    Progressive spineless bootlickers. Has a nice ring to it.


  218. Overlook
    218 | October 16, 2009 12:06 pm

    re: #206 by LanceKates

    I meant to thank you for your investigation on this madman.

    Whatever race he turns out to be – what is significant is that he was an equal opportunity threatener and that the left media chose not to mention it.


  219. kansas
    219 | October 16, 2009 12:07 pm

    Wait, spineless progressive bootlickers. SPB. I’m with that.


  220. vagabond trader
    220 | October 16, 2009 12:07 pm

    re: #214 by coldwarrior

    Disagree.The person who occupies the WH is my enemy as are his useful idiots.They may not be your enemies but they are certainly mine and they occupy all the highest offices in the land.


  221. Overlook
    221 | October 16, 2009 12:07 pm

    re: #216 by coldwarrior

    Your health.
    May you bust more balls.


  222. coldwarrior
    222 | October 16, 2009 12:09 pm

    re: #215 by Overlook

    agreed, my first is the 2nd amendment…then some others


  223. coldwarrior
    223 | October 16, 2009 12:12 pm

    re: #220 by vagabond trader

    hold on,

    they are my enemies, they are, however, not foreigners, therefore they are not ‘occupiers’ in my book…semantics, i know.

    they are the enemy, tho.


  224. Nilla
    224 | October 16, 2009 12:12 pm

    re: #185 by zaugg

    Nothing like announcing one’s own stupdity.


  225. kansas
    225 | October 16, 2009 12:13 pm

    re: #216 by coldwarrior

    I’ve had the clos du bois merlot so can attest to that being OK. I also recommended J Lohr, Trinchero, and Rodney Strong Cabernet. Don’t know the best year really, never pay attention, just always like them.


  226. vagabond trader
    226 | October 16, 2009 12:15 pm

    re: #223 by coldwarrior

    Depends on what your definition of…. is.

    :mrgreen:


  227. coldwarrior
    227 | October 16, 2009 12:17 pm

    re: #225 by kansas

    the year is important for some, not so much with others.

    i bought a few of these clos du bois on reputations and its excellent!

    never had the penfolds…


  228. apachegunner
    228 | October 16, 2009 12:18 pm

    re: #207 by coldwarrior

    yes, that is a catching phrase isn’t it


  229. coldwarrior
    229 | October 16, 2009 12:18 pm

    re: #226 by vagabond trader

    STOP IT

    LOL!


  230. coldwarrior
    230 | October 16, 2009 12:18 pm

    re: #221 by Overlook

    thanks…but it was mine in the vice this week!


  231. Empire1
    231 | October 16, 2009 12:19 pm

    re: #35 by Grimcargo

    As hard as it might be for one, Sarah just might be starting a third party.Course in the past, that only let dimwits win.

    Unless the Repubs come up with something other than yet another wimp, I’ll take my chances on Sarah.


  232. coldwarrior
    232 | October 16, 2009 12:21 pm

    re: #228 by apachegunner

    i do like the phrase and will use it, often:

    spineless progressive bootlickers SPB

    kansas came up with 2/3’s of it so he gets 66% of the attaboyz and royalties.


  233. apachegunner
    233 | October 16, 2009 12:22 pm

    re: #231 by Empire1

    I’ve never, ever, been a third party backer but I gotta say if the republicans put forth another mc cain type looser i would work hard for palin with both cash and sweat. we need a ass kicker and she might fit the bill.


  234. vagabond trader
    234 | October 16, 2009 12:22 pm

    re: #229 by coldwarrior

    Go drink your wine,I’m quite jealous and too damned lazy to go out to the local kiosk and obtain a dram or two.

    :razz:


  235. apachegunner
    235 | October 16, 2009 12:23 pm

    re: #232 by coldwarrior

    your a good person you are


  236. coldwarrior
    236 | October 16, 2009 12:26 pm

    re: #234 by vagabond trader

    my wife just kybosched the wine…there will be no wine drinking until she gets home.

    oh well, martini’s anyone?


  237. coldwarrior
    237 | October 16, 2009 12:27 pm

    re: #235 by apachegunner

    thanks!


  238. 88Cid
    238 | October 16, 2009 12:34 pm

    I’m not offended by anybody calling Bush I whatever they want to call him. It’s a free country.


  239. 88Cid
    239 | October 16, 2009 12:37 pm

    Yup, Bush I and Bush II are both spineless progressive boot lickers. N


  240. coldwarrior
    240 | October 16, 2009 12:37 pm

    re: #238 by 88Cid

    it is free, but words to have meanings and should have clear definitions, thats all.


  241. snork
    241 | October 16, 2009 1:00 pm

    221 Charles Fri, Oct 16, 2009 12:55:32pm

    re: #196 Sharmuta

    This advances conservatism how?

    It isn’t about “advancing” anything — it’s about destroying enemies.

    This coming from someone who bans every time somebody sneezes.


  242. vagabond trader
    242 | October 16, 2009 1:05 pm

    re: #236 by coldwarrior

    ding ding ding!


  243. coldwarrior
    243 | October 16, 2009 1:06 pm

    re: #241 by snork

    can he not see the obvious ironies


  244. snork
    244 | October 16, 2009 1:06 pm

    We’ve captured a real, live flounce:

    247 fortunate son Fri, Oct 16, 2009 1:05:03pm replyquote

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    Wow this is breathtaking. I don’t often post here, but I like to read the posts because one could often get good information. The site has really gone off the deep end of late.

    Defending a person who said that Mao was one of their favorite philosophers is amazing to me.

    As mentioned before, substitute Hitler or David Duke in the same quote and you would have the moderator and many of his disciples foaming at the mouth.

    Quoting Mao is one thing, but sighting Mao as your favorite political philosopher, excuse me, is nuts and really makes a statement about this administration.

    What the heck is going on here?

    Welcome home, FS.


  245. coldwarrior
    245 | October 16, 2009 1:08 pm

    re: #242 by vagabond trader

    james bond style martini comin’ at ya!


  246. Nikis Knight
    246 | October 16, 2009 1:08 pm

    re: #241 by snork

    I think conservatism, and more importantly, America, would advance if more people knew what murdering bastards Commies like Mao were, and this is a good “teaching moment.”


  247. coldwarrior
    247 | October 16, 2009 1:09 pm

    re: #244 by snork

    nice one FS!


  248. vagabond trader
    248 | October 16, 2009 1:13 pm

    re: #245 by coldwarrior

    Yum,thank you my favorite!

    Cheers!


  249. snork
    249 | October 16, 2009 1:13 pm

    264 Charles Fri, Oct 16, 2009 1:09:13pm

    re: #260 MPH

    Yes, of course it is. I can’t think of many better proxies by which we can judge someone’s character from afar.

    Well, you’d better start applying that same standard to Lee Atwater, then.

    I missed the part where Atwater was admiring Mao as a philosopher.


  250. snork
    250 | October 16, 2009 1:17 pm

    272 Charles Fri, Oct 16, 2009 1:11:46pm

    I have a very creepy feeling that I’m starting to understand why Joseph McCarthy was able to run amok and ruin so many careers for so long before he was stopped.

    Because he played fast and loose with the facts, the same way you do with McCain, Beck, Geller, Spencer, Limbaugh, Savage, Me, Iron Fist, and about three dozen others?


  251. vagabond trader
    251 | October 16, 2009 1:20 pm

    Hey cj, we have an Obama appointee trying to stifle free speech and she really digs Mao.Nothing wrong there?

    bwahahahahaha, useful idiot.


  252. Nikis Knight
    252 | October 16, 2009 1:20 pm

    re: #250 by snork

    Because communists really exist, and anyone admiring them is deeply foolish, ignorant, or wicked.

    But at least not a creationist, right Charles?


  253. kansas
    253 | October 16, 2009 1:41 pm

    re: #232 by coldwarrior

    Thanks but Rodan said this, “I let my frustration at seeing another Republican licking the boots of the Progressives get the better of me.”

    I just re-phrased it, so I can’t take undue credit. But thanks.


  254. Empire1
    254 | October 16, 2009 1:53 pm

    re: #233 by apachegunner

    I’ve gone third party in a couple of local elections, and compromised in every national one for someone who “had a chance”, like McCain. (I actually voted for Sarah, but he was at the head of the ticket, so … )

    Of the current crop, none seem too promising. Pawlenty’s not well known, and Da Beerfreak says he’s a Green nut. Huckabee’s a non-starter for me, at least. Romney’s out, with RomneyCare up in Mass. Jindal’s a maybe, but again not well known. Ditto Hunter.

    I like Sarah’s fighting spirit. She was a reformer in Alaska, and is excellent on the Second Amendment. At the moment, she’s the one I’d go for.


  255. nil stooge
    255 | October 16, 2009 2:07 pm

    re: #249 by snork

    I missed the part where Atwater was admiring Mao as a philosopher.

    I did too. Maybe it’s because Atwater’s been dead 18 years. I guess that’s the best example of a ‘Mao-admiring’ Republican CJ’s been able to dredge up so far.

    And even if CJ found a ‘better’ example, his ‘argument’ is still the same: once you subtract out the logical fallacies (Tu Quoque, Ad Hominem, Red Herring), mirabile dictu there’s nothing there.

    However, CJ does prove something (once again) – that he’s intellectually challenged and/or intellectually dishonest.


  256. bluliner10
    256 | October 16, 2009 2:55 pm

    re: #68 by Bumr50

    Same here, but I found that playing defense in a beer league was a lot of fun…hence the nickname…


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