Progressive Racism against Hispanic farmers

The American Progressive Movement is racialist and racist at it’s core. They believe that Blacks and Hispanics are helpless victims who can’t succeed with without the help of Enlightened White Progressives. They have smeared Those on the Right that preach Individualism and self reliance as racists. In reality it is the American Left that is racist, just like their German Progressive Cousins were 70 years ago. As a Hispanic, I can testify that the most racist people I have met are White Progressives.

In a blatant example of Progressive Racism, a judge ordered the water turned off for Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta. This has crippled the farmers, many of whom are Hispanic and has caused loss of jobs and loss of Food productions. Former Democrat, turned Republican and comedian Paul Rodriguez is leading the protest against this. His family owns a farm in the San Joaquin Vally and they will be affected. He lobbied Interior Secretary Ken Salazar to no effect. Clearly this is done for Racial reasons. The Obama Administration would rather please White Progressive Environmentalists than help out Hispanic farmers.

Paul Rodriguez

Paul Rodriguez wants water – and he’s angry enough to get some

One wouldn’t immediately associate comedian and actor Paul Rodriguez with a serious issue such as water.  But, as Mark Twain said: “Whiskey is for drinking; water is for fighting over.”

Rodriguez is so concerned about water that he helped create the California Latino Water Coalition, led marches with several thousand people in recent weeks, and spoke Saturday night to a convention of the conservative California Republican Assembly in Bakersfield.  I addressed the convention goers about my U.S. Senate run against Barbara Boxer just before Rodriguez’ turn at the podium.

What has Rodriguez’ concerned to spark political action is the shutdown of water pumps in the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta.  These pumps move water from California’s wet north to the agricultural Central Valley and urban Southern California.   A judge’s ruling switched the pumps off over a controversial U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service report that declared a fish, the delta smelt, threatened.  No one really knows if turning the pumps off will help the fish, but most can agree that California’s agricultural industry will take a big hit this year due to lack of water.

Rodriguez and his family own farmland in the Central Valley where, as the comedian said Saturday night, “We grow the sweetest oranges and sourest lemons.” But now, because of a judge’s ruling, the most fertile land on “this blue marble” will lie fallow.  People will be out of work.  Less food will be grown.  And farmer and farm worker alike will be hurt.

Rodriguez had notes at the podium but didn’t refer to them as he spoke for 40 minutes, presenting a potent alternating mix of passion, humor, and fact.  He recalled using his talent to help many prominent Democrats raise money only to have every one of them turn him a deaf ear when he asked them for assistance over the water issue.  “What are they afraid of,” he asked, “fish can’t vote.”

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Paul Rodriguez asks a very good question, “What are they afraid of?” He has discovered that the Progressive controlled Democratic party views Hispanics as their inferior vassals. When it comes to the interest of Hispanic farmers vs. White Environmentalist, the vassals must back down to their masters. This attitude caused Rodriguez to flip to the Republicans after seeing they don’t care about Hispanic farmers.

Rodriguez also has advise to the GOP in regards of Media and RINO calls of moving away from Social Conservatism.

And in contrast to much of the mainstream media’s habit of encouraging Republicans to moderate on social issues, he suggested that the Republican party’s conservative positions on issues like abortion and family values would be an advantage in attracting Hispanic voters. Rodriguez: “You need to attract more of me, or else you’d be an endangered species. … You know, we have so much in common. A lot of the values that this party espouses, we espouse. We believe strongly in family. We believe life is sacred.”

He is spot on, the GOP should not sell out to please the Media or Progressives. What the GOP should do is take advantage of this situation and have Paul Rodriguez as a spokesman to the Hispanic Community. He has seen Progressive Racism first hand and would be a great voice to show Latins, who the real racists are!

Conservatives/Libertarians must use the Race card Card against the Progressives. The achilles heel of the Left is their elitist Racist attitude and it should be exploited.

Below is a clip of Rodriguez on Hannity.

Update: song_and_dance_man makes a valid point.

Not only are the progressives racist, they are biased for taking into consideration the concerns of fish over their fellow human beings.
Now how exactly does one find what the fish really want? Their whole premise is flawed and the progressives use issues like these to promote their various whack job special interest groups as in this case the Environmental lobby.
These are the same people who save baby seals but have no problem with terminating the life of an unborn human.
They are totally reprobate and no better than animals that kill or eat their young.

Progressives hate Humans!

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  1. Bob in Breckenridge
    1 | October 14, 2009 10:05 am

    UNO!!! Okay, it’s actually PRIMERO! Whatever… :)


  2. 2 | October 14, 2009 10:11 am

    re: #1 by Bob in Breckenridge

    Congrats, Bob.

    Anyway, I saw that segment of Sean Hannity’s show about the Hispanic farmers in California. They’ve been used as pawns all this time by progressives. Frankly, that’s how it has been with the Left. They use any and everybody any way they can to advance their agendas.

    They don’t think of the Hispanic farmers (or us) as people, let alone equals; just the masses.


  3. vagabond trader
    3 | October 14, 2009 2:21 pm

    In a sane media this would be front page for months on end. Shame on the bigoted MSM.G-d bless these good people and I hope their land is restored. What a terrible way to find out you have been had.


  4. 4 | October 14, 2009 2:21 pm

    re: #2 by Morgan

    Nope, We are all oppressed by the Progressive elite. I just want to use the race card on Progressives. Let them see how it feels!


  5. 5 | October 14, 2009 2:22 pm

    re: #3 by vagabond trader

    I am exposing the racist nature of the Progressive agenda. The Environmentalist are higher in the Progressive Racial hierarchy than Hispanics.


  6. vagabond trader
    6 | October 14, 2009 2:23 pm

    re: #4 by Rodan

    Rodan do you know if any GOP members of congress have been out there?


  7. jakee308
    7 | October 14, 2009 2:24 pm

    Good riff on cj demanding that hot air be punished for false statements made by commenters about him over at Ace of Spades

    CJ is now the main example of ‘Self-Parody’ in the dictionary.


  8. Ed Mahmoud
    8 | October 14, 2009 2:24 pm

    I’ve been drunk in the Southern part of the San Joaquin Valley.

    And I have eaten at a Denny’s on 99 in Fresno.


  9. 9 | October 14, 2009 2:25 pm

    re: #6 by vagabond trader

    Nope, none that I know of. This is a way to turn the Race card against the Left.


  10. spacejesus
    10 | October 14, 2009 2:26 pm

    rodan, california water law expert ladies and gentlemen.


  11. vagabond trader
    11 | October 14, 2009 2:26 pm

    re: #9 by Rodan

    Absolutely,the Rs are hapless.Rodriquez should run!


  12. Mike in Georgia
    12 | October 14, 2009 2:29 pm

    Remember the snail darter.


  13. MightyConservative
    13 | October 14, 2009 2:33 pm

    Rodan,

    I am glad you made this post because this is something that I just can’t abide. Those people worked the land and built up something admirable and prospered from the literal fruits of their labor.

    They will destroy all of that hard work and sacrifice because of some environmentally insane bullshit about some kind of fish. A. Fish.

    What’s more important? People or fish?

    There’s nothing wrong with trying to preserve the environment, but not at the expense of people’s hard work, good fortunes, and the welfare of these families.

    What the Hispanic farmers have done there is the very embodiment of the American Dream, and it is a shame to see these people treated like this. Our government has actively begun harming our citizens.

    This is the kind of story one would hear from people who escaped from oppressive tyrannies, not Americans suffering at the feet of the government that is supposed to serve the populous.

    This is a shameful and dark chapter in our nation’s history from where I am sitting and I hope that relief comes when those pumps are turned on … by government order, or by those that have the courage to do what is right. Whichever comes first.


  14. Nevergiveup
    14 | October 14, 2009 2:34 pm

    I am surprised this story got so little press. Aside from FOX, did anyone cover it?


  15. MightyConservative
    15 | October 14, 2009 2:35 pm

    re: #14 by Nevergiveup

    I don’t think it has been, and that speaks volumes about the priorities of the media as a whole, doesn’t it?


  16. 16 | October 14, 2009 2:37 pm

    re: #10 by spacejesus

    Spacejesus, Anti-Catholic/Hispanic Bigot!

    How’s that KKK rally for you, Racist Progressive coward?


  17. Jesusland
    17 | October 14, 2009 2:37 pm

    There was a time when I swore to myself hell would freeze over before I voted GOP. But this hispanic and lifelong Liberal was forced to jump ship for GOP because of social conservatism. The Left has always been at war with my values, and when leftism grew and metasticized within the Dem party like a cancer I had no other choice. Asta la vista libturds.


  18. vagabond trader
    18 | October 14, 2009 2:37 pm

    re: #15 by MightyConservative

    The MSM is a whore to Obama.


  19. osama bin porkchop
    19 | October 14, 2009 2:38 pm

    I’ve always been curious as to why the more traditional views on abortion and family issues hadn’t been more of a drawing card for the GOP when it came to Hispanic voters in the past. Hopefully the tide is changing on that issue.


  20. 20 | October 14, 2009 2:39 pm

    re: #17 by Jesusland

    Buenvenidos Mi Hermano!


  21. vagabond trader
    21 | October 14, 2009 2:39 pm

    re: #17 by Jesusland

    Have you ever convinced any friends or family that the Dems are not their friends?


  22. snowcrash
    22 | October 14, 2009 2:40 pm

    Rodan, I will have to google it, but I remember the President speaking before some U.N. Council talking about the basic right to free, clean water. Maybe he only meant in the third world. lol


  23. MightyConservative
    23 | October 14, 2009 2:41 pm

    re: #16 by Rodan

    Obviously it is your site and it isn’t my place to tell you how to run it, but I wouldn’t spend two seconds worrying about anything “spacejesus” “contributed.”

    Just sayin


  24. 24 | October 14, 2009 2:42 pm

    re: #22 by snowcrash

    Of course it does not apply to America. It would not shock me if they do this across the nation. Their goal is to destroy American agriculture and have us import food.


  25. Nevergiveup
    25 | October 14, 2009 2:42 pm

    Western allies on Wednesday pressured to launch credible investigations into UN allegations of possible war crimes by the Israel Defense Forces during last year’s war in the Gaza Strip.

    The United States, Britain and France all said Israel should look into findings published last month by a UN mission led by South African jurist Richard Goldstone.

    http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1121045.html

    With “Friends” like these who needs enemies?


  26. Nikis Knight
    26 | October 14, 2009 2:42 pm

    This is an important issue, though it isn’t so much racism as not caring about minorities real interests as they say they do. (What helps these people more–affirmative action, or having access to water work and live with, and cheaper food to buy and sell?)

    These progressives that push for minority rights, like feminists today who ignore or excse abuse at the hands of islam, do so only when it comes at the expense of the western culture as a whole–only when they can incite division and spread dependance; it’s cultural marxism divide and conquer. That’s the motivation of the elites who set the agenda, followed by unthinking, but feeling, liberals who want to feel good about sticking up for the little guy.

    But when it comes down to what helps hundreds of people especially minorites, progressive elite take the side of a stinking fish over people. Could the fish live somewhere else? Would anyone miss the damn thing? Who knows, who cares, it takes priority.

    It’s largely inexplicable, except in religious terms. The mindless emotion-driven version of environmentalism becomes a good exalted above any legitimate benefits, a god on which things that they supposedly care about are sacrificed to atone for their sins.

    Of course, no personal loss will come to the progressive activists like those that sue under the endangered species act or the Judge who ruled this case. They can afford higher food & water prices, their jobs are secure.

    In the end they don’t so much even help nature, because when I, and doubtless others, hear about insanity like this I want nothing more than to go dynamite fishing in the Sacramento-San Joaquin Delta.

    So no, I don’t think it is racism, but it is bloody aweful.


  27. Nevergiveup
    27 | October 14, 2009 2:42 pm

    re: #24 by Rodan

    From who?


  28. 28 | October 14, 2009 2:43 pm

    re: #23 by MightyConservative

    It’s notn my blog, It belongs to all of you!

    I will take your advise and ignore this Progressive loon.


  29. 29 | October 14, 2009 2:44 pm

    re: #27 by Nevergiveup

    Don’t know, but it seems like that’s part of the Progressive agenda.


  30. MightyConservative
    30 | October 14, 2009 2:44 pm

    re: #18 by vagabond trader

    This is a curious case, because you have traditionally liberal causes conflicting here. On one hand you have the plight and welfare of minorities on one side, people that have worked extremely hard to build what they have, and then you have … a fish. Or at least the welfare of the fish, which may or may not be affected by the water flow.

    My question would be if this fish is so vital can’t they raise it to preserve it? It seems there has to be some solution that doesn’t involve the wholesale destruction of people’s lives.


  31. spacejesus
    31 | October 14, 2009 2:44 pm

    re: #16 by Rodan

    lol


  32. LGoPs
    32 | October 14, 2009 2:44 pm

    All pigs are equal. But of course, some pigs are more equal than others.


  33. father_of_10
    33 | October 14, 2009 2:46 pm

    re: #1 by Bob in Breckenridge

    No, you should say: Estoy aqui antes de todos los otro netizens!


  34. MightyConservative
    34 | October 14, 2009 2:47 pm

    re: #26 by Nikis Knight

    Great comments and echoes my feelings exactly.


  35. LGoPs
    35 | October 14, 2009 2:47 pm

    I’m convinced that the fish don’t matter either. All of these causes are merely tools that the Progressives use to push their agenda towards the goal of the destruction of capitalism and the introduction of the worker’s paradise.

    Fuck them.


  36. Rides A Pale Horse
    36 | October 14, 2009 2:47 pm

    New magazine!!!

    http://i979.photobucket.com/albums/ae277/RAPH6969/RHM.jpg


  37. Russkilitlover
    37 | October 14, 2009 2:49 pm

    re: #13 by MightyConservative

    ‘There’s nothing wrong with trying to preserve the environment, but not at the expense of people’s hard work, good fortunes, and the welfare of these families.’

    Not to mention a goodly sized chunk of food supply for all the other 56 states and abroad. Haven’t you noticed the spike in prices of arugula lately?


  38. Ed Mahmoud
    38 | October 14, 2009 2:50 pm

    In all honesty, they would just have happily starved out tens of thousands of white farmers to save some small bait fish.

    The libtards, I mean. They are racist, in a condescending way, but the ethnic composition of the SJV farmers isn’t why they’re screwed.

    It is just noteworthy that what is considered a reliable Demonrat voting bloc (not Cubans, of course, people who have experienced communism recognize it in the Demonrat Party, like ‘Comrade Red Square’, from Breshnev’s USSR, at ‘The Peoples Cube) is getting screwed by unchecked Demonratic Gaia worship.


  39. song_and_dance_man
    39 | October 14, 2009 2:50 pm

    What is alk this then?

    Not only are the progressives racist, they are biased for taking into consideration the concerns of fish over their fellow human beings.

    Now how exactly does one find what the fish really want? Their whole premise is flawed and the progressives use issues like these to promote their various whack job special interest groups as in this case the Environmental lobby.

    These are the same people who save baby seals but have no problem with terminating the life of an unborn human.

    They are totally reprobate and no better than animals that kill or eat their young.


  40. 40 | October 14, 2009 2:51 pm

    re: #31 by spacejesus

    Nice of you to drop by. Tell Charlie I said he’s an idiot.


  41. snowcrash
    41 | October 14, 2009 2:51 pm

    re: #26 by Nikis Knight

    Great comment.


  42. chickadee
    42 | October 14, 2009 2:51 pm

    It is obvious that the pols in CA. and the animal rights thugs, who they are beholden to, believe that a 2 in. minnow trumps the very lives and existence of human beings.
    This is a form of human sacrifice that is fine with these radical maniacs. BTW, these nature terrorists don’t give a shit about the little fish. They are ruthless ideologues. Peta euthanizes
    more dogs than any other animal protection outfit.
    These activists use animals to push their agenda to shut down
    human civilization.


  43. LGoPs
    43 | October 14, 2009 2:51 pm

    I can’t find the source but I remember reading years ago a memo from the Sierra Club which provided a rare glimpse into theri real motivations. And those motivations had nothing to do with nature or conservancy or small furry endangered animals. it had everything to do with advancing the agenda of the Progressive Left. Which is the label that communists have taken on since they’re smart enough to realize that even the half asleep masses out there are wise to the commie cause.

    All these leftist organizations are fronts for worldwide communism. They are wolves in sheeps clothing.


  44. RIX
    44 | October 14, 2009 2:52 pm

    re: #10 by spacejesus

    You know doubbt find Johnson to me an eminent Scientist, Legal expert & Military Scientist, because he palms himself off that way.
    You seem really young & foolish, don’t advance to old & foolish & get out of your parents basemant.


  45. 45 | October 14, 2009 2:52 pm

    OT:

    Tentative Inspection Program Would Allow Russia to Visit U.S. Nuclear Sites

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/13/tentative-inspection-program-allow-russia-visit-nuclear-sites/


  46. MightyConservative
    46 | October 14, 2009 2:52 pm

    re: #37 by Russkilitlover

    Absolutely. I think 50% of the oranges produced in the United States comes from this affected region? I could be wrong on that quite easily – it was a figure I heard from someone else and that could be badly exaggerated. But I am sure it is a sizable percentage that will have an impact if that land is left to wither and die.


  47. kansas
    47 | October 14, 2009 2:52 pm

    Uh oh. A challenge for a new blog? Some place else to stalk.

    Charles Wed, Oct 14, 2009 2:47:46pm replyquote

    * 2
    * down
    * up
    * report

    re: #335 captdiggs

    So what’s stopping you from starting your own blog where you can post what you think is important, and get all the credit for it?


  48. song_and_dance_man
    48 | October 14, 2009 2:53 pm

    re: #31 by spacejesus

    Your economy of language is really quite charming.


  49. Ed Mahmoud
    49 | October 14, 2009 2:53 pm

    Back before Chuckles had his ‘Andrew Sullivan’ moment…

    http://web.archive.org/web/20030830151111/http://www.littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=3799


  50. Nevergiveup
    50 | October 14, 2009 2:54 pm

    re: #45 by WrathofG-d

    Yeah I’ve read that, but it does NOT say that it is reciprical?


  51. Nikis Knight
    51 | October 14, 2009 2:54 pm

    re: #26 by Nikis Knight

    “These progressives that push for minority rights”
    I should say special minority rights, as different from everyone else. Obviously making sure there aren’t legal hinderances to someone based on arbitrary physical distinctions as was the case in the past, like the real civil rights activists did earlier, was wonderful, but those who claim their mantle today do us little good and much harm, by and large.


  52. teacake
    52 | October 14, 2009 2:54 pm

    re: #7 by jakee308

    He really needs to get over himself. Tooting his own horn and the public whining is embarrassing to read. Really does make you wonder what drove him over the edge. Maybe his 15 min faded too fast for his ego?


  53. father_of_10
    53 | October 14, 2009 2:54 pm

    What’s worse than stepping in a stinking pile of CfJ? Stepping in a pile of CfJ acolyte. They both stink, but one is stickier.


  54. snowcrash
    54 | October 14, 2009 2:54 pm

    re: #46 by MightyConservative

    I saw Hannity’s show on this issue and I think it was a tomato producing area.


  55. Overlook
    55 | October 14, 2009 2:54 pm

    re: #30 by MightyConservative

    The logic of Progressivism is to remove privilege from the top and give it to successively lower (victim) orders: from rich white male through poor workers, women, through underclass, through third world, to animals, fish and coral and viruses.
    See Dawkins’ suggestion to expand the jurisdiction of the Human Rights Court to include higher primates.


  56. LGoPs
    56 | October 14, 2009 2:55 pm

    re: #44 by RIX

    Don’t even talk to the asshat. When the particularly nasty lizards come over they ought to be met by a wall of silence.


  57. MightyConservative
    57 | October 14, 2009 2:55 pm

    re: #42 by chickadee

    BTW, these nature terrorists don’t give a shit about the little fish.

    Odds are they are getting a government grant to study this fish and the “impact” of it. So while they don’t care about the fish, I am sure they love the government money.


  58. Ed Mahmoud
    58 | October 14, 2009 2:55 pm

    They’d have screwed anyone. For godless atheists, or pagans, like most Demonrats, animals, sometimes even plants, are the equal of people.

    It just looks racist, because in this case mostly white urban libtards are screwing mostly Hispanic rural farmers.


  59. Bumr50
    59 | October 14, 2009 2:57 pm

    re: #42 by chickadee

    They feel that humanity is a virus on the planet’s ecology.

    It’s pretty plain if you look at their writings and legislation as a whole.

    What gets me is why they don’t do the honorable thing for the planet when they reach this conclusion and eat the barrel of a 12-gauge.


  60. MightyConservative
    60 | October 14, 2009 2:57 pm

    re: #54 by snowcrash

    Ah, OK, tomatoes, I think that was it. I didn’t see that show but my father did and mentioned the figure as 50%. I haven’t verified that for myself so take it with a boulder of salt.


  61. RIX
    61 | October 14, 2009 2:57 pm

    re: #56 by LGoPs

    Hard to resist. This sounds like a college kid that has never actually paid a bill.
    He probably thinks that washed up musicians are like so cool.


  62. 62 | October 14, 2009 2:57 pm

    re: #39 by song_and_dance_man

    You will get a Hat tip Tip for that!

    Check the update!


  63. Nevergiveup
    63 | October 14, 2009 2:58 pm

    re: #61 by RIX

    Well if they pick up the check?


  64. teacake
    64 | October 14, 2009 3:00 pm

    LOL he certainly has pissed off a lot of people. Its quite something really to have so many various blogs devoted to trashing just one asshole.


  65. Overlook
    65 | October 14, 2009 3:00 pm

    re: #58 by Ed Mahmoud

    re: #59 by Bumr50

    See my #55


  66. LGoPs
    66 | October 14, 2009 3:01 pm

    re: #61 by RIX

    I agree. He always was a lighweight.
    :)


  67. Russkilitlover
    67 | October 14, 2009 3:01 pm

    re: #54 by snowcrash

    Not just tomatoes, the San Joaquin valley produces almost every variety of produce you can imagine. It is incredibly rich and fertile ground. It does, however, need water irrigated to the fields. HUGE fields. Drive the I5 corridor sometime and you see agriculture for mile after endless mile in every direction. It’s awesome and is California’s #1 industry. Put into chaos by leftists.


  68. chickadee
    68 | October 14, 2009 3:01 pm

    The failure of the left to see the injustice here to hispanic people is the same as the NOW hags remaining silent to the abuse of women under Islam.
    They back or ignore any group based on what grows their own personal power.
    That’s a lib for you. Their causes are phony and not heart felt.


  69. MightyConservative
    69 | October 14, 2009 3:01 pm

    re: #59 by Bumr50

    They feel that humanity is a virus on the planet’s ecology.

    I’d like to share a revelation that I’ve had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species. I realized that you’re not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You move to an area, and you multiply, and multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet, you are a plague, and we are the cure.

    – Agent Smith, The Matrix


  70. song_and_dance_man
    70 | October 14, 2009 3:01 pm

    re: #62 by Rodan

    Thanks Rodan. Just doing my part.


  71. Ed Mahmoud
    71 | October 14, 2009 3:02 pm

    Vagitarian TV financial advisor has three homes with three homestead exemptions????

    http://webofdeception.com/orman.html


  72. teacake
    72 | October 14, 2009 3:03 pm

    What I’m confused about is why would the lefty’s do this with racist motives when they want so badly to give illegals amnesty?


  73. RIX
    73 | October 14, 2009 3:03 pm

    re: #63 by Nevergiveup

    I don’t think that Charles is picking up a lot of checks these days.
    It seems like he never goes to work. You can check almost anytime & he is on , other than sleeping.


  74. Nikis Knight
    74 | October 14, 2009 3:03 pm

    Oh, and there have been documented instances of the activists who flock to the EPA lying about the existance of endangered species in an area. They are anti-capitalists who use the welfare of slugs and fish to attack land owners.

    John Stossel has examples in his book Myths, Lies, and Downright Stupidity, and Hugh Hewitt reports from time to time of defending land-owners from these suits. Hearing their stories makes me despise the Endangered Species Act which is used often by activists to harrass people who then have little recourse to their constitutional rights.


  75. Nevergiveup
    75 | October 14, 2009 3:04 pm

    Clinton: Russia will support sanctions on Iran if unavoidable
    Published: 10.14.09, 23:57 / Israel News
    US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton downplayed Washington’s disagreement with Moscow regarding the necessary action against Iran, saying that should sanction prove unavoidable, she believed the US will have Russia’s support.

    Speaking with ABC Television, Clinton said that Russia’s statement saying sanctions decision was premature does not contradict the US’ stand on the matter. (AFP)

    Well sure it does. Well I mean what was AMERICA’s policy. But Obama policy? Well yeah we know, we know.


  76. Russkilitlover
    76 | October 14, 2009 3:05 pm

    re: #72 by teacake

    If they have no jobs, they are even more dependent.


  77. vagabond trader
    77 | October 14, 2009 3:05 pm

    re: #30 by MightyConservative

    My guess is something like this.A handful of friends of friends are conducting academic studies on water resources and how agriculture affects the local fauna or some such lofty bs.The friend is in big gov and gets them hooked up with a fat comfy grant. Goodbye famers and yes it is bigotry of the worst kind. These leftists pretend to care about the little guy but in the end its all about power and control. Not a little fish or human beings.


  78. MightyConservative
    78 | October 14, 2009 3:05 pm

    re: #72 by teacake

    The idea there is to build a loyal base of voters. Not to actually help anyone … except themselves.


  79. snowcrash
    79 | October 14, 2009 3:05 pm

    re: #67 by Russkilitlover

    I just read that in an on line Newsweek article. Seems amazing to have one geographical area that can grow so many things.


  80. Ed Mahmoud
    80 | October 14, 2009 3:06 pm

    Iran is a Russian client state, and any tension, such as an Israeli attack on Iran’s nukes, would boost the price of oil, and Russia exports.

    The Russkies can’t be trusted. Obama probably knows, and doesn’t care.


  81. Bumr50
    81 | October 14, 2009 3:06 pm

    re: #69 by MightyConservative

    I can also see the Progressives as the inquisitors of Bruce Willis’ character in ‘12 Monkeys.’


  82. RIX
    82 | October 14, 2009 3:07 pm

    re: #66 by LGoPs

    I think that he is just a kid with attitude.
    He must have fun to getting sassy with adults, particularly when he is anonymous.


  83. Nevergiveup
    83 | October 14, 2009 3:07 pm

    Charles
    Wed, Oct 14, 2009 3:03:26pm

    Limbaugh represents everything that’s wrong with how people relate to one another today.

    And he is laughing at you all the way to the bank. Hey hippie what kinda ride do you have now a days?


  84. Russkilitlover
    84 | October 14, 2009 3:07 pm

    re: #79 by snowcrash

    We aren’t called the land of fruits and nuts for nothin’ ya know!


  85. song_and_dance_man
    85 | October 14, 2009 3:07 pm

    re: #43 by LGoPs

    And those motivations had nothing to do with nature or conservancy or small furry endangered animals. it had everything to do with advancing the agenda of the Progressive Left.

    Yep. And that is the case with the health care reform mumbo jumbo they are pushing. It has nothing to do with providing better care for their fellow humans; it has more to do with installing socialism so they, the Progressves, can control our lives.


  86. 86 | October 14, 2009 3:08 pm

    re: #81 by Bumr50

    I see them more as Brad Pitt’s character in that same movie.


  87. LGoPs
    87 | October 14, 2009 3:08 pm

    re: #77 by vagabond trader

    These leftists pretend to care about the little guy but in the end its all about power and control. Not a little fish or human beings.

    Geez, how I wish the Republicans could figure out a way to convey this message to the electorate. that the Democrats are not their friend. They are their oppressor. it is the Republican Party that represents the middle class and the little guy.
    Problem is that these goddammed stereotypes are so hard to kill.


  88. Bumr50
    88 | October 14, 2009 3:08 pm

    re: #79 by snowcrash

    Is Humboldt around there?

    /


  89. chickadee
    89 | October 14, 2009 3:08 pm

    re: #72 by teacake

    The left wants their vote, they just don’t want them doing well:
    making it on their own efforts and hard work.
    It is easy for the gov’t to subjugate a weakened society waiting on a paltry handout.


  90. song_and_dance_man
    90 | October 14, 2009 3:09 pm

    re: #47 by kansas

    Ha. He’s still using that line while in another breath condemns us for taking his advice. He really isn’t too bright. is he?


  91. Russkilitlover
    91 | October 14, 2009 3:09 pm

    re: #88 by Bumr50

    Farther north, on the coast, under a perpetual cloud of………fog.


  92. Eliana
    92 | October 14, 2009 3:10 pm

    re: #83 by Nevergiveup

    Charles “I Am Now Dan Rather” Johnson is a lying hypocrite. He is smearing lies about Rush Limbaugh and I hope he is included in the legal action that Rush is apparently planning to take on the people who are lying about him with these fake racist quotes.


  93. RIX
    93 | October 14, 2009 3:10 pm

    re: #83 by Nevergiveup

    Wait! Charles is now an expert on how to relate?
    He has some sense of humor., I mean he is such a smarmy, insulting little creep.


  94. snowcrash
    94 | October 14, 2009 3:10 pm

    re: #88 by Bumr50

    Now that county is famous for weed not feed!


  95. song_and_dance_man
    95 | October 14, 2009 3:10 pm

    re: #77 by vagabond trader

    Ok who owes whom the coke?

    ;-)


  96. Nikis Knight
    96 | October 14, 2009 3:11 pm

    CA grows lots of rice too, which is a good cheap staple but requires lots of water. I don’t know if it is grown in the area in question, though.

    What I’m confused about is why would the lefty’s do this with racist motives when they want so badly to give illegals amnesty?

    As the article shows, this is a great instance to peel away some “reflexive liberals” people who just want to be seen as compassionate, from the radical progressives that use them to gain power by manipulating them with slander and emotional appeals.

    The radical progressives and amnesty because they feel they will be seen as benefactors to the new immigrants and gain a voting block who they can hopefully manipulate through collectivist politics, without actually caring for their wellfare, at least not, as Rodan shows, as much as a lousy fish.

    I believe that this is a decided minority among the democratics voting public, and hopefully those that just want to vote their compassion can be shown that the progressives aren’t particularly concerned with outcomes that benefit people.


  97. Grimcargo
    97 | October 14, 2009 3:12 pm

    re: #92 by Eliana

    Remember Rush doesn’t even have to win to beat them. they’ll have to pay for a lawyer.


  98. MightyConservative
    98 | October 14, 2009 3:13 pm

    To get back on topic though, this is a really important story I don’t think has had nearly enough media coverage. In fact I feel like if Charlie Gibson was being interviewed and asked about it, he’d have to give the DUHWAH HEE HEE HEE HEE HEE response.

    People need to know that our government is actively destroying the lives of hard working people for no good reason whatsoever.


  99. chickadee
    99 | October 14, 2009 3:14 pm

    re: #92 by Eliana

    Rush has 30 million listeners.
    CJ is a speck on the ass of a parasite on a dust mote.


  100. Carolina Girl
    100 | October 14, 2009 3:14 pm

    re: #6 by vagabond trader

    Tom McClintock has been out there, as have several Cali GOP members of the house – this is all happening, by the way, in their districts, the RED area of California – the San Joaquin and Imperial Valleys.

    Barbara Boxer and Dianne Feinstein have, at this point, done NOTHING to assist the California farmers from this area – why? I think mainly because they don’t VOTE for them.

    God Bless Paul Rodriquez. At least he may be able to make the Hispanic, Latin (and my apologies, Rodan, if I get it wrong in the reference) and other minority farmers in the area see that the Progressives/Democrats are not their friends.

    Let me put it this way – I live 47 miles from the Sacramento valley – where they grow an abundance of the nation’s tomatoes. Customarily in the summer, I pay less than 99 cents a pound. They are now $2.99 a pound.


  101. Nikis Knight
    101 | October 14, 2009 3:15 pm

    re: #93 by RIX

    Wait! Charles is now an expert on how to relate?
    He has some sense of humor., I mean he is such a smarmy, insulting little creep.

    No, I can see how you might think he has a sense of humor, but that would require self-knowledge in this case; he is simply blind to the irony and prone to absurdity which makes it seem like he has a subtle wit.


  102. vagabond trader
    102 | October 14, 2009 3:16 pm

    re: #95 by song_and_dance_man

    I’ll put it in the mail tomorrow!


  103. song_and_dance_man
    103 | October 14, 2009 3:16 pm

    re: #73 by RIX

    I don’t think he’s had a real job ever since LGF was started. BTW, LGF was initially to be a Web Consulting firm with his brother and partner Michael in in the Bay area. To tyhis date I can only think of 3 sites that he has authored. His, Simon’s and Jihad Watch.


  104. Eliana
    104 | October 14, 2009 3:16 pm

    re: #97 by Grimcargo

    Remember Rush doesn’t even have to win to beat them. they’ll have to pay for a lawyer.

    Charles would have to change his “Donate!” sign on each thread to a font of 60 pts tall for this.

    He could also add a soundbite when 1.0 opens, too.

    “DONATE! YES, YOU HEARD ME! DOOONAAATE!!”


  105. RIX
    105 | October 14, 2009 3:17 pm

    re: #92 by Eliana

    The only place to find the comments that CJ & others allege that Libbaugh made is on a doctored Wiki page.
    Rick Sanchez , the blow dried snot on CNN smeared limbaugh.
    Big mistake, Limbaugh shot back with researched facts that Sanchez actually was drunk while leaveing a Doplphins game, hit a guty & fled the scene.
    He rendered no aid and the pedestrian died.
    Hmmm, DUI hit & run & he’s throwing stones?


  106. Nevergiveup
    106 | October 14, 2009 3:17 pm

    meatsss
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    Several quotes attributed to him are false. The James Earl Ray quote. The Slavery was what built the south quote. McCarthyism has come to the NFL. What happens the next time an outspoken lib wants to own part of a team? Will they be “vetted” the same way?

    He will not last long


  107. snowcrash
    107 | October 14, 2009 3:17 pm

    The impact on food prices will be felt all over the country. Secondary food processers, canners and packers will see less work too. This is bad all the way around.


  108. 108 | October 14, 2009 3:18 pm

    re: #100 by Carolina Girl

    No apologies needed. I may be proud of my Hispanic/Latin heritage, but I in no way subscribe to group think. I rather be remembered as Rodan the Conservative, than Rodan the Hispanic Conservative.

    The only reason I am accusing the Left of racism is because they love to use it against the Right. Therefore, I just turned the tables.


  109. vagabond trader
    109 | October 14, 2009 3:18 pm

    OT: Mark Levin is on a righteous rant about Sharpton and Jackson, two of the most vile Jew hating sobs in the USA.


  110. Nevergiveup
    110 | October 14, 2009 3:18 pm

    re: #109 by vagabond trader

    He is great


  111. RIX
    111 | October 14, 2009 3:20 pm

    re: #103 by song_and_dance_man

    Well, on occasion he does brush up his pony tail, plunk a helmet on his head & slip his big ass into spandex.
    He then bicycles around like a vagrant & takes way cool beach pictures.
    He is so multi-tasking.


  112. MightyConservative
    112 | October 14, 2009 3:20 pm

    re: #100 by Carolina Girl

    Let me put it this way – I live 47 miles from the Sacramento valley – where they grow an abundance of the nation’s tomatoes. Customarily in the summer, I pay less than 99 cents a pound. They are now $2.99 a pound.

    Damn.


  113. 113 | October 14, 2009 3:20 pm

    re: #109 by vagabond trader

    Hymie town anyone?


  114. chickadee
    114 | October 14, 2009 3:21 pm

    I think CJ is completely humorless. That is his main problem.
    He has become a vicious, hateful, vindictive jerk who can’t see the humor in anything.


  115. Nikis Knight
    115 | October 14, 2009 3:21 pm

    re: #104 by Eliana

    Or: “Donate! Or the fascists WIN!

    re: #105 by RIX

    The quote first showed up on a wiki page, then later a single book referencing the wiki page, then the wiki was changed to reference the book that came out after the quoted was put up on that wiki and used only it as a source. Apparently it’s from a web commenter named Cobra.

    Anyone with an ounce of common sense would know that that soundbite would have been played for days by the media when it came out if it were legit. Therefore anyone using it is stupid or wicked, or deludes themselves with “fake but accurate” reasoning.


  116. vagabond trader
    116 | October 14, 2009 3:21 pm

    re: #105 by RIX

    Those lazy idiots swear by their wiki,a totally discredited source to do any serious research.


  117. IslandLibertarian
    117 | October 14, 2009 3:22 pm

    re: #39 by song_and_dance_man

    Turn the pumps off to save a fish?
    OK!
    Turn off the power to abortion clinics.

    /yeah, I know, stop making sense…..


  118. Carolina Girl
    118 | October 14, 2009 3:22 pm

    I believe the Rush “quotes” were originally sourced from Wikipedia. Wasn’t this the same Wikipedia which we were instructed NOT to use as a source at TBWWNBN because it was in fact subject to manipulation and filled with errors?

    So…..if anyone knew that Wikipedia was not a trustworthy source….and that anyone used quotes from that untrustworthy source…..not a whole hell of a lot to hide behind.

    Oh, and that lovely man Rick Sanchez who started the smear – well, well, turns out he left a Dolphins game back in 1990, was drunk, ran over a man, left him for dead (aka Hit and Run). Returned to “scene” two hours later, still drunk. Only cited for drunk driving. My, my, my. And his victim? Died five years later, but was paralyzed.

    Nice crowd you smear merchants are. *spit*


  119. vagabond trader
    119 | October 14, 2009 3:22 pm

    re: #113 by Rodan

    Or Freddies Fashion Mart? 7 innocent dead because of Sharptons agitating.


  120. snowcrash
    120 | October 14, 2009 3:22 pm

    re: #99 by chickadee

    All LGF offers these days is the soap-opera like drama of watching his vicious pack of attack dogs turn on each other. Content wise it is a waste of time.


  121. 121 | October 14, 2009 3:22 pm

    re: #111 by RIX

    That reminds me, I’m going to be riding as long as I can into the winter, I’ll take pictures.

    Of course, I’m on a motorcycle, not a lil bicycle.

    Just have to get it out of the shop.


  122. MightyConservative
    122 | October 14, 2009 3:23 pm

    I just watched the video posted and I’m just as pissed as I can get. Common sense has escaped our nation as a whole; I feel like I am trapped in bizarro world.


  123. Nikis Knight
    123 | October 14, 2009 3:23 pm

    re: #115 by Nikis Knight

    whoops, I’d appreciate a close strong tag appened to that after win, if anyone got a chance. It wasn’t important enough to shout.


  124. vagabond trader
    124 | October 14, 2009 3:24 pm

    re: #118 by Carolina Girl

    Sharmutta loves wiki, its where she gets all those tedious cut and paste quotes.


  125. vapig
    125 | October 14, 2009 3:24 pm

    I haven’t read all the comments, but I’ve heard it bandied about that the fish in question isn’t even indigenous to the area. Anyway someone could find that out?


  126. Eliana
    126 | October 14, 2009 3:25 pm

    re: #109 by vagabond trader

    OT: Mark Levin is on a righteous rant about Sharpton and Jackson, two of the most vile Jew hating sobs in the USA.

    Thanks for the reminder! I finally got his book and I’m going to start reading it tonight!


  127. MightyConservative
    127 | October 14, 2009 3:25 pm

    re: #114 by chickadee

    A good sense of humor is usually dependent on two things: intelligence and empathy.


  128. Carolina Girl
    128 | October 14, 2009 3:25 pm

    re: #112 by MightyConservative

    It’s put a crimp in Tuesday Taco night, that’s for damn sure. Not enough salsa to go around for everybody.

    And I’m REALLY pissed at having to cut back on my salads and BLT’s.

    But to the poster above re rice – yes, they also grow that in the Sacramento Valley, but I think their water comes from another side of the Delta not affected by that stupid 2-inch fish that can barely be used as bait.


  129. vagabond trader
    129 | October 14, 2009 3:26 pm

    re: #126 by Eliana

    Let me know how you like it, its on my TBR pile. Could be years.

    :D


  130. MightyConservative
    130 | October 14, 2009 3:27 pm

    re: #126 by Eliana

    I finally got his book and I’m going to start reading it tonight!

    You’ll be amazed at how well Levin has Obama nailed down. To a T. His argument is that Obama’s not so much a socialist as he is a statist, and after you read it, you’ll see makes some fine points. I highly recommend his book.


  131. song_and_dance_man
    131 | October 14, 2009 3:28 pm

    re: #104 by Eliana

    I can imagine LGF becoming a pay to play site.

    Comments ———————- $0.55 ea.
    Up Dings ———————- $0.25 ea.
    Down Dings ———————$1.00 ea.
    Hat Tips ———————- $5.00 ea.
    Registration ——————-$25.00 ea.
    Socks ————————–$15.00 ea.
    Contact ME ———————$5.00 ea.
    Return from Timeout ————$10.00 ea.
    (plus a $25.00 doing you a service Fee)
    Return from Banning ————$50.00 ea.
    Provide a Link——————$1.00 ea.

    For every one who recruits a newbie there will be a $5.00 credit to your account.


  132. vagabond trader
    132 | October 14, 2009 3:28 pm

    re: #125 by vapig

    Wouldn’t that figure? Probably imported by a pet store and flushed down the toilet by some kid.


  133. LGoPs
    133 | October 14, 2009 3:28 pm

    re: #122 by MightyConservative

    As many have said before me we are in a Cold Civil War.


  134. vagabond trader
    134 | October 14, 2009 3:29 pm

    re: #131 by song_and_dance_man

    ROTFLOL!

    Classic!


  135. 135 | October 14, 2009 3:29 pm

    re: #119 by vagabond trader

    The Crown Heights riots in 91!


  136. 136 | October 14, 2009 3:30 pm

    re: #10 by spacejesus

    rodan, california water law expert ladies and gentlemen.

    Oh, it’s Spacejesus, that’s what the small is. I thought the baby had loaded his diaper again.


  137. MightyConservative
    137 | October 14, 2009 3:30 pm

    re: #131 by song_and_dance_man

    You probably don’t realize how prophetic that comment may turn out to be, seeing as how he probably just gave him the very idea you are mocking.


  138. vagabond trader
    138 | October 14, 2009 3:30 pm

    re: #135 by Rodan

    Tawana Brawley.


  139. Eliana
    139 | October 14, 2009 3:31 pm

    re: #131 by song_and_dance_man

    Hilarious!

    /You do know that he’s taking notes, right?

    :-)


  140. 140 | October 14, 2009 3:31 pm

    re: #124 by vagabond trader

    Sharmutta loves wiki, its where she gets all those tedious cut and paste quotes.

    That explains quite a bit.


  141. vagabond trader
    141 | October 14, 2009 3:31 pm

    re: #136 by tqcincinnatus

    Ummm,the babe DID load his diaper again Dad.Guaranteed.

    :D


  142. LGoPs
    142 | October 14, 2009 3:32 pm

    re: #130 by MightyConservative

    His argument is that Obama’s not so much a socialist as he is a statist,

    And that’s the scariest part. nazi germany was Statist. Stalin’s Soviet Union was Statist. regardless of whether they were viewed as left or right, the comoon denominator was Statism and the result was millions of dead.

    Statism is the true enemy and all those who advance it.


  143. teacake
    143 | October 14, 2009 3:32 pm

    re: #139 by Eliana

    I don’t think there’s enough time in the day with 3 or 4 other blogs all trashing him. So much drama over one little guy.


  144. Eliana
    144 | October 14, 2009 3:32 pm

    re: #131 by song_and_dance_man

    Comments ———————- $0.55 ea.
    Up Dings ———————- $0.25 ea.
    Down Dings ———————$1.00 ea.
    Hat Tips ———————- $5.00 ea.
    Registration ——————-$25.00 ea.
    Socks ————————–$15.00 ea.
    Contact ME ———————$5.00 ea.
    Return from Timeout ————$10.00 ea.
    (plus a $25.00 doing you a service Fee)
    Return from Banning ————$50.00 ea.
    Provide a Link——————$1.00 ea.

    Charles is muttering to himself right now, “I can ask more for returning from banning and timeouts…”


  145. vagabond trader
    145 | October 14, 2009 3:33 pm

    re: #142 by LGoPs

    Statists, I HATE those guys.


  146. MightyConservative
    146 | October 14, 2009 3:33 pm

    re: #128 by Carolina Girl

    And I’m REALLY pissed at having to cut back on my salads and BLT’s.

    But just think of all the fish you’re saving!!

    /


  147. LGoPs
    147 | October 14, 2009 3:33 pm

    I need Preview. Badly.
    Sheesh.


  148. song_and_dance_man
    148 | October 14, 2009 3:34 pm

    re: #113 by Rodan

    Hymietown


  149. MightyConservative
    149 | October 14, 2009 3:34 pm

    re: #142 by LGoPs

    I agree. Statism is a true scourge upon our nation and I see it growing stronger with each passing day.


  150. vagabond trader
    150 | October 14, 2009 3:34 pm

    re: #143 by teacake

    A few months ago we were sitting here in real time predicting who would get banned. All of a sudden they would appear as fresh new posters here,lol.


  151. teacake
    151 | October 14, 2009 3:36 pm

    What amazes me the most about humans these days is just how large the global lefty population is. How its possible that so many can be so irrational boggles the mind. It really has been feeling like walking around a Twilight Zone episode with Invasion of the Pod People.


  152. vagabond trader
    152 | October 14, 2009 3:37 pm

    Are these lousy little fish worthy of eating or anything? WTfoxtrot.


  153. vapig
    153 | October 14, 2009 3:37 pm

    re: #13 by MightyConservative

    I don’t think this is about a fish. I think this is about control. What better way to control a people that to affect their food supply?


  154. Nevergiveup
    154 | October 14, 2009 3:37 pm

    29Victor
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    Been a long time since I’ve been here.

    Adjust yer meds Charles. You’re either taking too much of something or not enough.


  155. teacake
    155 | October 14, 2009 3:37 pm

    re: #150 by vagabond trader

    lol


  156. song_and_dance_man
    156 | October 14, 2009 3:39 pm

    re: #150 by vagabond trader

    That’s right. And the latest were buzz and tfk.

    ;-)


  157. song_and_dance_man
    157 | October 14, 2009 3:39 pm

    re: #154 by Nevergiveup

    LOL great smackdown.

    Well victor will be here soon.


  158. MightyConservative
    158 | October 14, 2009 3:41 pm

    re: #153 by vapig

    Certainly. It is about control, and I think government grants are in the mix here as well. Control, and money, is what it is when you boil it away. The excuse is a fish, and a red herring, at that.


  159. IslandLibertarian
    159 | October 14, 2009 3:41 pm

    re: #31 by spacejesus

    WowSJ, YOU ROCK!
    DING!DING!DING!DING!DING!DING!DING!DING!DING!DING!
    Wish I was a cult member!


  160. maxhdrm
    160 | October 14, 2009 3:41 pm

    Wow, it didn’t take long for this to disapear.

    …………………………………………..
    106 29Victor Wed, Oct 14, 2009 3:37:13pm reply quote

    * 0
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    Been a long time since I’ve been here.

    Adjust yer meds Charles. You’re either taking too much of something or not enough.

    …………………………………………..
    Good thing im quick on the mouse….

    selrahC, you suck.


  161. teacake
    161 | October 14, 2009 3:41 pm

    re: #153 by vapig

    This world is getting scarier by the day. The powers that be control finances, working on “health care,” which I believe in the near future will be replaced with witch doctors since it seems anyone in the field won’t be able to afford to stay in the profession. Basically, we will all be a ward of the state similar to n. korea.


  162. Nikis Knight
    162 | October 14, 2009 3:41 pm

    re: #153 by vapig

    Yeah, but the people who support the law and aren’t in power, what’s in it for them? The rank and file “Goode family” liberal democrat? Just generally detesting humanity, or what?

    Is that too many question marks in one post?


  163. Eliana
    163 | October 14, 2009 3:43 pm

    re: #154 by Nevergiveup

    29 Victor

    Adjust yer meds Charles. You’re either taking too much of something or not enough.

    This is so entertaining!!! :-)

    When CJ pulls the level on the trap door, we should just have a 2.0 basket under there waiting to give them a soft landing (although many find their way here anyway).


  164. vagabond trader
    164 | October 14, 2009 3:43 pm

    re: #155 by teacake

    It was pretty funny,especially since there were still good posters over there, and some of the bannings were great.Its just not much fun anymore because those remaining are not quite right.


  165. teacake
    165 | October 14, 2009 3:45 pm

    How long has this meltdown been going on exactly? I only discovered the drama the other day just by chance.


  166. RIX
    166 | October 14, 2009 3:45 pm

    re: #116 by vagabond trader

    re: #115 by Nikis Knight

    It doesn’t matter how thin that the evidence is,
    Charlie loves a good smear.


  167. vagabond trader
    167 | October 14, 2009 3:45 pm

    re: #157 by song_and_dance_man

    I like the concise ones.


  168. song_and_dance_man
    168 | October 14, 2009 3:45 pm

    re: #164 by vagabond trader

    There’s a few left like Mandy and Reine


  169. Carolina Girl
    169 | October 14, 2009 3:45 pm

    re: #138 by vagabond trader

    Ah yesssss, Tawana Brawley…..has the schlock and smearmeister ever paid any of that civil judgment that was won against him by the cops and the DA that he smeared.

    Oh, and I understand three Duke lacrosse players are still waiting for an apology from him and Jessie “Hymietown” Jackson.


  170. 170 | October 14, 2009 3:45 pm

    re: #148 by song_and_dance_man

    re: #150 by vagabond trader

    Not to bring up Icarus, but this is teh 2nd time he has sided with Anti-Semites.

    1st he sides with Daily Kos and now Al Sharpton/Jesse Jackson.


  171. blueiris
    171 | October 14, 2009 3:45 pm

    re: #98 by MightyConservative

    People need to know that our government is actively destroying the lives of hard working people for no good reason whatsoever.

    Absolutely. I’m all for saving the fish, but saving the fish and allowing the farmers their water isn’t mutually exclusive (except if you’re a Progressive). Surely there’s an engineer left in California that can build a pipe that doesn’t suck up fish.


  172. vagabond trader
    172 | October 14, 2009 3:47 pm

    re: #170 by Rodan

    Yup, we knew this was coming. Thats why I mouthed off on the other thread, my way of letting him know we are onto him.


  173. teacake
    173 | October 14, 2009 3:48 pm

    I was posting there quite a bit during the election. Got attacked by quite a number of people calling me all sorts of names.

    Didn’t read it or go back until about 4 months ago and got jumped on immediately, banned in less than an hour. lOlolol


  174. Eliana
    174 | October 14, 2009 3:48 pm

    Let’s face it — progressives see human beings as a scourge upon the Earth. If they could end the existence of the human race to make the planet a little prettier, they’d do it.

    They think humans are chauvinistic towards animals and rocks.


  175. Carolina Girl
    175 | October 14, 2009 3:49 pm

    re: #146 by MightyConservative

    We were all sitting in the bar one day and thought it’d be fun to go catch all the Delta Smelt and use it to catch a real fish like a Tuna.


  176. Nikis Knight
    176 | October 14, 2009 3:49 pm

    re: #171 by blueiris

    You can’t use technology to solve a problem created by human interference with nature! It’s just trying to treat sin with more sin! Only diminishing human standards of living are acceptable, not overcoming problems* via ingenuity and capitalism.

    *Not that I care about a fish, especially one that isn’t being actively utilized to feed something important.


  177. teacake
    177 | October 14, 2009 3:50 pm

    Seems like a really shady excuse since no one is trying to save all the birds that get sucked into jet engines.


  178. Eliana
    179 | October 14, 2009 3:50 pm

    Which one of Obama’s Czars is the guy who think dogs and cats should be allowed to hire lawyers to sue people?


  179. Eliana
    180 | October 14, 2009 3:50 pm

    I love dogs and cats, but for goodness sake.


  180. Nevergiveup
    181 | October 14, 2009 3:51 pm

    Grogtank
    Wed, Oct 14, 2009 3:50:06pm
    0
    down
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    report
    This blog has went through some changes since I last posted. Is anything important ever reported on honestly and discussed around here anymore?

    The NFL has become exactly what Rush describes it as. There is little dignity and respect left in the game. Much like one would expect from crips and bloods.

    This is my last post here. I used to love the debates. Is anyone paying attention to the economy? How about the overt irresponsibility on the hill? Oh yes, I almost forgot, our men and women in uniform risking their lives for this country, for YOU.

    Grog

    Before it disappears


  181. song_and_dance_man
    182 | October 14, 2009 3:51 pm

    re: #170 by Rodan

    He is in the bus ready to rev it up.


  182. Rightside
    183 | October 14, 2009 3:51 pm

    re: #174 by Eliana

    We can always start with them.


  183. RIX
    184 | October 14, 2009 3:52 pm

    re: #101 by Nikis Knight

    You got it, Charles & that Weasel thing only see humor at someone eles’s expense.
    It is commonly called sadism


  184. teacake
    185 | October 14, 2009 3:52 pm

    Kass something


  185. Carolina Girl
    186 | October 14, 2009 3:52 pm

    re: #173 by teacake

    Well, too bad for those losers, because you’re most certainly OUR gain.


  186. NoThreat2U
    187 | October 14, 2009 3:52 pm

    Sunstein


  187. vagabond trader
    188 | October 14, 2009 3:53 pm

    re: #169 by Carolina Girl

    They are the lowest most reprehensible extortion artists.


  188. BuddyG
    189 | October 14, 2009 3:53 pm

    Progressives are hyper-vigilant in their hunt for “racism” and should cut back on the caffeine.


  189. coldwarrior
    190 | October 14, 2009 3:53 pm

    re: #171 by blueiris

    “the good reason” (for the progs) is to make you dependent on them for survival…then they can run your life as they see fit.

    bbl…this is a driveby


  190. 88Cid
    191 | October 14, 2009 3:53 pm

    re: #184 by RIX

    You got it, Charles & that Weasel thing only see humor at someone eles’s expense.

    The AZZpimple is a nasty piece of work is it not?


  191. Eliana
    192 | October 14, 2009 3:54 pm

    re: #177 by teacake

    Seems like a really shady excuse since no one is trying to save all the birds that get sucked into jet engines.

    It was probably liberals who wanted to build a garbage dump at the end of an airport runway in New York too. Garbage attracts birds.

    It would be like putting “Free Bird Food” signs on the tarmac.


  192. 193 | October 14, 2009 3:55 pm

    New Open Thread Up Now Beaches.

    …now get back on topic here; stat like.


  193. song_and_dance_man
    194 | October 14, 2009 3:55 pm

    I suggest the farm workers head up to the San Joaquin Delta and have themselves a big ‘ol fish fry fiesta.

    Done, problem solved.


  194. vagabond trader
    195 | October 14, 2009 3:55 pm

    re: #179 by Eliana

    That is not the worst of it. He is also married to the Israel hater Samantha Power and he believes the Constitution is passe’


  195. teacake
    196 | October 14, 2009 3:56 pm

    re: #186 by Carolina Girl

    Thanks! Glad to be here too.


  196. LGoPs
    197 | October 14, 2009 3:56 pm

    re: #151 by teacake

    What amazes me the most about humans these days is just how large the global lefty population is. How its possible that so many can be so irrational boggles the mind. It really has been feeling like walking around a Twilight Zone episode with Invasion of the Pod People.

    I know this is going to sound cynical and perhaps a bit elitist but a big part of me thinks that this affliction of Leftism is due to affluence. It’s a bunch of spoiled rotten brats having too much time on their hands. When you’re struggling to make a living you don’t have time to sit around and pontificate about fucking nirvana. You’re busy living and appreciating the things you’ve earned.
    The irony is that these leftist bastards have that time on their hands due to the hard work and effort of their predecessors. And they spit on it’s fruits and toy with and tinker with it. And they will fuck it up. You mark my words.


  197. vagabond trader
    198 | October 14, 2009 3:57 pm

    re: #178 by NoThreat2U

    No shame in this country anymore huh?


  198. blueiris
    199 | October 14, 2009 3:57 pm

    re: #176 by Nikis Knight

    You nailed it. Solving problems is just so… well, so AMERICAN.

    (Not to mention, do we know if this fish was artificially introduced to that habitat by evil white men?)


  199. Eliana
    200 | October 14, 2009 3:57 pm

    re: #183 by Rightside

    We can always start with them.

    If the progressives believe that humans are so bad — they could start by locking themselves up at the very least.

    Indeed.


  200. 201 | October 14, 2009 3:58 pm

    re: #174 by Eliana

    Progressives don’t view themselves as Humans. They really believe they have evolved into Enlightened God like Beings.


  201. teacake
    202 | October 14, 2009 3:59 pm

    Back in the day Reganite attacked me for no real reason all the time. I never even talked to him. Just before I left, that guy Walter always had some smart thing to call me. Usually psycho or idiot or something like that.


  202. NoThreat2U
    203 | October 14, 2009 3:59 pm

    re: #198 by vagabond trader

    None at all. LOL LOL


  203. Empire1
    204 | October 14, 2009 4:00 pm

    re: #58 by Ed Mahmoud

    Minor correction here. Most pagans are quite aware that plants and animals are not the equivalent of humans. We have our fruitcakes and extremists, of course, but most of us have the same basic idea of stewardship of the world as Christians do.


  204. vagabond trader
    205 | October 14, 2009 4:00 pm

    re: #165 by teacake

    I’ve been here since May and it was pretty steady but cozy here,then all of a sudden around Labor Day he went beserko.


  205. Eliana
    206 | October 14, 2009 4:00 pm

    re: #196 by teacake

    {teacake}


  206. RIX
    207 | October 14, 2009 4:01 pm

    re: #191 by 88Cid

    Indeed.


  207. vagabond trader
    208 | October 14, 2009 4:02 pm

    re: #203 by NoThreat2U

    Damn, reminds me of the hasband going out on the back deck nekkid to get a pail just because he could.Its like,why??


  208. song_and_dance_man
    209 | October 14, 2009 4:02 pm

    re: #202 by teacake

    Well, we all love you here.


  209. Eliana
    210 | October 14, 2009 4:03 pm

    re: #205 by vagabond trader

    I’ve been here since May and it was pretty steady but cozy here,then all of a sudden around Labor Day he went beserko.

    I came in on the evening of September 12th when people were starting to flood in here! CJ was whining about the stalker site so I started hunting through the internet for 2.0 until I found it!

    It’s great!!! :-)


  210. blueiris
    211 | October 14, 2009 4:03 pm

    re: #170 by Rodan

    1st he sides with Daily Kos and now Al Sharpton/Jesse Jackson.

    Rush was on fire today going after those race-baiters. (No, Charles, not literally. Stop getting so excited.)


  211. teacake
    212 | October 14, 2009 4:05 pm

    re: #201 by Rodan

    Ya know what, that’s exactly how my ex neighbors viewed themselves. All proud progrssive types who meddled in my personal life, did some highly vicious things, robbed me of dignity, spread stories and turned the guy I was seeing against me too. One of them is oh so enlightened sage woman, another is a hooker who pretends to be a spiritual yoga massage therapist, the rest flaky artist assholes who are so much better than everyone.


  212. vagabond trader
    213 | October 14, 2009 4:06 pm

    re: #210 by Eliana

    Thats how a lot of us found it. Hes our best PR man!

    :mrgreen:


  213. vapig
    214 | October 14, 2009 4:06 pm

    I haven’t found any hard science yet – but I found what a congresscritter had to say on the matter:

    http://www.campbell.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2548&Itemid=73

    Delta Smelt: Most of you reading this are in Southern California. But you should know that 85,000 of our farmers from the Central Valley of California have lost their jobs as their farms dry up with no water. It’s not because of the drought. There is plenty of water available for those farms, but radical groups have succeeded in getting 12 water pumps from the Sacramento Delta shut down in order to protect the habitat of a 2-inch fish that is not indigenous to the region called the Delta Smelt. Many of you know that I am an animal lover and believe in protecting species. But I do not believe in destroying thousands of human lives, livelihoods, and causing us to lose the ability to produce our own food in order to improve the quality of life of an invasive fish species that is not endangered. We can open those pumps, and there will still be plenty of fish because of filters and we should build the “peripheral canal” to secure water for the future of California farming.


  214. RIX
    215 | October 14, 2009 4:07 pm

    re: #210 by Eliana

    Lots of bannings then,including me.
    Charles was deperately defending Van Jones on the evening of 9/11 & I dispeased him.
    Next day blocked & I never got to say goodbye &I rally had a few things to say to him


  215. teacake
    216 | October 14, 2009 4:08 pm

    re: #205 by vagabond trader

    Labor day? Yikes. Maybe he is off some meds or something.


  216. Eliana
    217 | October 14, 2009 4:08 pm

    re: #201 by Rodan

    Progressives don’t view themselves as Humans. They really believe they have evolved into Enlightened God like Beings.

    Quite true.


  217. vagabond trader
    218 | October 14, 2009 4:09 pm

    re: #214 by vapig

    He has his head on straight too bad his colleagues are traitors.


  218. teacake
    219 | October 14, 2009 4:10 pm

    re: #215 by RIX

    It’s probably all been said here and at the other 3 blogs. Its unbelievable really. LOL And all the youtube spoofs too. He’s quite the anti-celebrity.


  219. Rightside
    220 | October 14, 2009 4:10 pm

    re: #215 by RIX

    Even if you did, it would have been flushed immediately down his pie memory hole.

    Just think you can do it over here again and again, and add anything you want, without fear of the hippie control freak “blocking” your account!


  220. Carolina Girl
    221 | October 14, 2009 4:11 pm

    re: #214 by vapig

    I think it will be very interesting when Paul Rodriguez campaigns for Republican candidates next year, which he has said he’s going to do. He’s going to be especially vocal in Los Angeles.

    He’s been warmly welcomed by Cali GOP Congress critters when he’s asked to speak to them, and he said on Inga’s show that he was very surprised, considering he’d heard so much negative data about the GOP.

    To Arnold’s credit, by the way, he’s been trying to get the pumps turned on as well, according to the stories I’ve read.


  221. vagabond trader
    222 | October 14, 2009 4:12 pm

    re: #216 by teacake

    Or just off his rocker.Funny thing I was feeling sorry for him and a few here chastized me reminding us that he had indeed hurt a lot of good people. Wouldn’t you know that a couple of hours later his handmaiden Irish Rose complained to our server about some nonsense and we were shut down for hours.Thats what you get for feeling sorry for a jerk.


  222. song_and_dance_man
    223 | October 14, 2009 4:12 pm

    re: #214 by vapig

    pumps from the Sacramento Delta shut down in order to protect the habitat of a 2-inch fish that is not indigenous to the region called the Delta Smelt.

    Well, what the heck. This fish is not even indigenous to the delta and is probably upsetting the local environment.

    Once again proof these whack job progressives are not really concerned about what they profess.


  223. vapig
    224 | October 14, 2009 4:13 pm

    re: #162 by Nikis Knight

    With the media we have do they even know? I’m sure the progs are blaming Bush somehow for their higher food prices.


  224. song_and_dance_man
    225 | October 14, 2009 4:14 pm

    Rodan

    vapigs link and quote may be worthy of another update.


  225. vagabond trader
    226 | October 14, 2009 4:15 pm

    re: #221 by Carolina Girl

    Man if that were my living patience would not be a virtue.Surprised there hasn’t been sabotage. The Rs should be all over this kind of crap as prime evidence of progressive fascism.


  226. LGoPs
    227 | October 14, 2009 4:16 pm

    re: #223 by song_and_dance_man

    Well, what the heck. This fish is not even indigenous to the delta and is probably upsetting the local environment.

    Once again proof these whack job progressives are not really concerned about what they profess.

    Progressives are not indigenous to America. They are a foreign virus that has infected us.


  227. vagabond trader
    228 | October 14, 2009 4:17 pm

    re: #227 by LGoPs

    Second that! Can we send them back or at least develop a vaccine?


  228. MightyConservative
    229 | October 14, 2009 4:17 pm

    re: #212 by teacake

    Ya know what, that’s exactly how my ex neighbors viewed themselves.

    While South Park isn’t everyone’s cup of tea, the episode with hybrid car, and then the move to San Francisco, did about as much as I have ever seen for those special folks that go the extra mile to be “enlightened.”

    If you haven’t seen it, it is worth a watch because it hits the nail on the head with the self-righteous smugness that just makes ordinary folks want to vomit projectile style.


  229. RIX
    230 | October 14, 2009 4:20 pm

    re: #220 by Rightside

    Yeah, but I just wanted to tell him on his own blog. On the btright side , I was able to get the Weasel for myself & some others.
    Charles must have been at therapy.


  230. texasam7
    231 | October 14, 2009 4:22 pm

    This situation reminds me of a land preservation society back where I grew up on a dairy farm run by my dad. My relatives from the city couldn’t believe that my father wouldn’t support conservation efforts, but while preserving land for agriculture was the preservation society’s stated aim, the only people they seemed to be fighting were farmers who wanted to expand their operations.


  231. vapig
    232 | October 14, 2009 4:22 pm

    re: #218 by vagabond trader

    He’s outnumbered badly in Kali, that’s for sure!


  232. RIX
    233 | October 14, 2009 4:23 pm

    re: #219 by teacake

    He’s a jackass. He is on a lunatic rant right now that Limaugh is a racist. Even if all of those comments have been debunked, it doesn’t matter. Charles believes the voices in hi head.


  233. vapig
    234 | October 14, 2009 4:25 pm

    re: #221 by Carolina Girl

    What do you mean trying??? He’s the governator, for cryin out loud! He should be able to sign some executive order or something. The job has it’s perks for goodness sakes!!


  234. Sparky
    235 | October 14, 2009 4:26 pm

    You shut off the water. The farmers go broke, the millions of acres are all put up at once in a big fire sale, for pennies on the dollar. And guess who works for one of the biggest real estate development companies in California.
    Diane Finsteins husband, Richard Blum of CBRE. And Paul Pelosi who has major real estate holdings including vineyards, stood side by side with his wife and Finsteins right behind Obama during the campaign. After it is bought up, I predict the water will magically turn on again. Follow the money.


  235. Eliana
    236 | October 14, 2009 4:29 pm

    South Park has its funny moments…

    “Die Hippie, Die”

    Plot summary

    Cartman runs a ‘pest control’ service to rid the town of hippies, people he feared and hated for most of the series, mainly because “they smoke pot, wear crap and smell bad.” Having studied hippies in his quest to eradicate them, Cartman deduces the hippies are about to start a music festival in South Park. His attempts to warn the town council are futile, and he is arrested soon afterwards for imprisoning 63 hippies in his basement.

    The town of South Park is soon invaded by the largest population of hippies in history, and the music festival threatens to destroy the town. They manage to convert Stan, Kyle and Kenny to their cause with talks of corporate evils, and the trio get caught up in the massive hippie crowd where they all listen to jam band music.

    Cartman pleads with the mayor to stop the festival, but it turns out that the mayor was the one who permitted the music festival in the first place. But after seeing the chaos that the eccentric hippies are creating, the mayor is ridden with guilt and shoots herself in the head (she survives and appears later in the strategy room when Cartman is enacting his plan).

    Stan’s parents know where the kids are, but when they realized what they did in Woodstock (which was very embarrassing), they went to get Stan. Randy tries to get through the crowd, but fails early due to excessive marijuana smoke exposure. The rest of the town then pleads with Cartman to rid the town of the hippies. Cartman eventually agrees to help, but only after Randy promises to offer a Tonka radio controlled bulldozer and Kyle’s mother assures that Kyle will never have one, instead having to watch Cartman playing with the bulldozer.

    Meanwhile, Stan, Kyle and Kenny realize that the hippies are doing nothing to oppose the corporations that they have demonized and that their idea of a perfect society is the same as the currently existing one. They try to leave but the crowd is 7 miles in radius and Stan’s efforts to talk sense into the hippies only make matters worse.

    Cartman, with the help of a scientist (Randy), an engineer (Butters Stotch’s mother Linda) and a “black man to sacrifice himself in case anything goes wrong” (Chef), builds a giant drill (”Hippie Digger”) to bore through the hippie crowd. While they are boring through, the drill breaks down and Chef goes out and “sacrifices” himself to pull the emergency power switch. This spoofs the plot of the 1998 film Armageddon.

    Cartman then uploads the Slayer song “Raining Blood” into the speakers (as Cartman reasons,”hippies can’t stand death metal”). The plan works and the hippies disperse, saving South Park. Stan sees Randy and they end up hugging each other, knowing that they’re safe. Cartman then pulls out a knife and tells Kyle that he has plans for him. Kyle is then forced to watch Cartman having fun with his Tonka bulldozer in the school parking lot.

    /Sorry for the Wikipedia quote but sometimes Wiki is ok. :-)


  236. vapig
    237 | October 14, 2009 4:29 pm

    re: #226 by vagabond trader

    I agree! This should be one of those civil disobedience issues. A whole mob needs to show up to turn the pumps back on! They can’t arrest them all!


  237. song_and_dance_man
    238 | October 14, 2009 4:29 pm

    re: #227 by LGoPs

    I can agree with that wholeheartedly.


  238. vapig
    239 | October 14, 2009 4:32 pm

    re: #235 by Sparky

    Dang! I think you’re on to something there!


  239. Sparky
    240 | October 14, 2009 4:35 pm

    re: #239 by vapig

    Are you sure? Cuz the libtards think I’m just paranoid.

    :grin:


  240. vapig
    241 | October 14, 2009 4:37 pm

    re: #240 by Sparky

    Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they aren’t after you!

    :shock:


  241. Sparky
    242 | October 14, 2009 4:39 pm

    re: #241 by vapig

    Oh there after me all right, only it’s just my wallet they want, I think.


  242. song_and_dance_man
    243 | October 14, 2009 4:41 pm

    re: #235 by Sparky

    Now that gets a huge HMMMMMM


  243. song_and_dance_man
    244 | October 14, 2009 4:43 pm

    re: #242 by Sparky

    They want more than your wallet. They want you.

    They’re out there Neo.

    ;-)


  244. Sparky
    245 | October 14, 2009 4:47 pm

    re: #244 by song_and_dance_man

    Hah! Well I’ll be in good company.


  245. CloudyDay
    246 | October 14, 2009 5:16 pm

    re: #124 by vagabond trader

    Smugopedia – Pretend you know better.


  246. Speranza
    247 | October 14, 2009 5:50 pm

    re: #31 by spacejesus

    I just finished having sex with your mother.


  247. osama bin porkchop
    248 | October 14, 2009 6:26 pm

    re: #106 by Nevergiveup

    OMG, that quote is still up….lol
    Guess Chuck is napping on the job :)


  248. osama bin porkchop
    249 | October 14, 2009 6:38 pm

    re: #10 by spacejesus

    Tell Chuckie that I hope he gets back on his meds soon and that I also the checks from Soros bounce realllllllllly high….


  249. 88Cid
    250 | October 14, 2009 6:57 pm

    re: #247 by Speranza

    I just finished having sex with your mother.

    Man she is good too isn’t she?


  250. waldensianspirit
    251 | October 14, 2009 7:02 pm

    Rodan, this is a very important topic and excellent thread. We need to work hard on exposing the actions by the progressives to harm the good people of the land who work hard and provide for the nation. We cannot allow them to damage our food supply nor distress our farmers. They do it to gain power and divert wealth to their cronies.

    I hope to see more threads on the matter.

    Why should this judge and cronies have running water in their gated community mansions?


  251. PrincessNatasha
    252 | October 14, 2009 7:10 pm

    OK. Fine. Progressives think humans are a cancer on Gaia’s arse or whatever. Well, then, since they’re so enlightened and progressive and all, they should lead by example and remove themselves from existence. After all, despite the God-complex, they still eat, shit, and use up resources. So, being the avant-guarde, they should be at the forefront of this fantastic new movement. After all, we common peasants are too dumb to learn any other way but by example. So, here is your chance, progressives! Be first! Be daring! Do it for Mother Gaia!


  252. osama bin porkchop
    253 | October 14, 2009 7:18 pm

    I just knew that Pelosi and Feinstein had skins in the game, so to speak. Truly, totally, and utterly disgusting – but not totally surprising.


  253. 254 | October 14, 2009 7:32 pm

    re: #141 by vagabond trader

    Ummm,the babe DID load his diaper again Dad.Guaranteed.

    THAT is no joke. You shoulda heard him tonight. I thought the kid was trying out for the New York Philharmonic.


  254. merimac
    255 | October 14, 2009 9:41 pm

    And what’s La Raza saying about this?


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