Obamabots mad; Israel isn’t bowing

‘U.S. furious over Israeli incitement against Obama’

The U.S. administration is furious over Israeli incitement against President Barack Obama, Democratic congressmen close to Obama told an Israeli source who returned from a visit to Washington this week.

The congressmen even hinted that Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has been personally involved.

The source, who met in Washington with administration officials and members of Congress, told Haaretz he was stunned by the level of anger there over attempts to portray Obama to the American public as an enemy of Israel because of his efforts to restart peace talks and freeze settlement construction.

“There are people here who are playing with fire by damaging our relationship with the U.S.,” the source said.

This really pisses me off. They’re making it out like the Israelis are against peace, and that settlement contruction is a worse crime than sending rockets and bombs into Israel. How dare Israel question teh Won™ ?

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Abdullah himself sought to use his his exclusive interview with Haaretz to rouse Israeli public opinion from its apathy about the freeze in the peace process and the government’s support for rightist groups that seek to deepen Jewish control over Jerusalem’s Old City and its environs. Amman is concerned that Abbas’ growing weakness, along with the lack of progress despite Mitchell’s many visits to the region, will increase pressure on the Arab League to suspend the peace initiative it adopted in March 2002.

Apparently, Israel has had it made and their Arab neighbors have been oh so peaceful since 2002…

The whole issue is settlements?

BEIRUT:

At least two Katyusha rockets were fired from southern Lebanon and hit northern Israel on Friday afternoon, while Israel responded with artillery to the area where the rockets were originated.

Facing Rocket Attacks in Southern Israel

Rocket Attack on Sderot Home

Militant group claims rocket attacks on Israel

Hezbollah removes rockets from bomb site

^ Those links could go on and on and on, but you already knew that.

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201 Responses to “Obamabots mad; Israel isn’t bowing”
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  1. 1 | October 14, 2009 10:04 am

    Am Israel Chai! Am Israel Chai!


  2. 2 | October 14, 2009 10:12 am

    M,
    I took my down so this one gets some life. I had is scheduled so I rescheduled it for 3 hours.


  3. NoThreat2U
    3 | October 14, 2009 10:15 am

    Did I miss something here? Was Obi elected President of Isreal? Didn’t think so.


  4. Iron Fist
    4 | October 14, 2009 10:19 am

    What Israel should do is mass artillery on the southern border of Lebannon. When the Mohammedans fire rockets from there, turn on the artillery and shell everything between the border and the maximum range of the artillery. Shell it continuously until there is nothing but dust left.

    Then move the border north. Rinse and repeat as necessary until either the rocket attacks end or they run out of Lebannon. Either way the problem will be solved.


  5. 5 | October 14, 2009 10:21 am

    re: #4 by Iron Fist

    Israel should arm the Lebanese Christians and have then attack Hizb’ALlah from behind.


  6. Nevergiveup
    6 | October 14, 2009 10:22 am

    Yeah I saw this the a few days ago. It is typical. I will bet all my money ( yeah don’t get excited, I’m in debt up to my eyeballs) that the Congressman and source is a Self hating Jew. I remember attending a meeting before Gulf War 1 and by chance was sitting next to Sen. Lautenberg who “warned” that we JEWS should stop agitating for war because it might come back to bite us. The place errupted and the SOB had to be excorted out and the meeting ended.


  7. Ed Mahmoud
    7 | October 14, 2009 10:23 am

    OT

    Karl Malden, his Serbian-Orthodox church (St. Sava), and the third longest marriage in Hollywood (70 years.) Art Linkletter has been married since 1935.

    And a discussion about the Catholic and Greek Othodox Saint Saba/Saint Sava/Saint Sabbas, a monk who lived in the deserts near Jerusalem, and Saint Sava, a 13th century Serbian Orthodox bishop.

    And how the Nueces River in Texas is not named for the Rio San Saba de las Nueces.

    http://www.grouchyconservativepundits.com/index.php?topic=5776.0


  8. teacake
    8 | October 14, 2009 10:24 am

    Last week in one of the articles about barry’s nobel prize there was a very revealing quote by some hamas leader. To paraphrase, he said something to the effect of, obama has done nothing for the cause of the arab and muslim world. Basically, he is admitting the problem is not about palestinian statehood at all.

    Is statehood for the pal’s THE arab / islamic cause?


  9. teacake
    9 | October 14, 2009 10:25 am

    Hi Ed


  10. teacake
    10 | October 14, 2009 10:26 am

    just stopping in for a minute…. working at home today.


  11. Nevergiveup
    11 | October 14, 2009 10:27 am

    re: #8 by teacake

    “Is statehood for the pal’s THE arab / islamic cause?”

    No never was. They just want all JEWS out of the middle east and a caliphate from sea to shining sea.


  12. teacake
    12 | October 14, 2009 10:28 am

    re: #11 by Nevergiveup

    That’s what I got from the hamas guy’s comment. He all but admitted to that and its a shame not many people have picked up on that.


  13. buzzsawmonkey
    13 | October 14, 2009 10:29 am

    You go, stiff-necked people!


  14. Speranza
    14 | October 14, 2009 10:31 am

    Carpet bomb Gaza or any other area where rocket and artillery fire is being directed at you. Hey fellow Jews, how’s that Obama working out for you?


  15. buzzsawmonkey
    15 | October 14, 2009 10:33 am

    re: #14 by Speranza
    Hey fellow Jews, how’s that Obama working out for you?

    So many Jews I know refused to believe that Hamas was running phone banks for Obama during the election, even though they proclaimed it proudly and there were videos of the Hamas efforts.


  16. Speranza
    16 | October 14, 2009 10:33 am

    re: #13 by buzzsawmonkey

    Buzzsawmonkey glad to see you! Don’t you feel so much better being away from that unnamed blog?


  17. teacake
    17 | October 14, 2009 10:35 am

    re: #15 by buzzsawmonkey

    As I recall Drudge had several links to all that.


  18. vagabond trader
    18 | October 14, 2009 10:35 am

    Meanwhile Putin is not that into Peace Prize Hussein and warns against sanctions on Iran.

    Swell.

    http://in.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idINIndia-43160620091014


  19. Speranza
    19 | October 14, 2009 10:35 am

    re: #15 by buzzsawmonkey

    They chose not to believe it. Classic cognitive dissonance. For example a friend of mine goes to a liberal temple. I told him that 90% fo the people there will vote for Obama even if he turns out to be the most anti Israel president ever. He denied it but I suspect a lot of classic cognitive dissonance.


  20. Nevergiveup
    20 | October 14, 2009 10:36 am

    re: #15 by buzzsawmonkey

    Yeah me too. Of course those are the Jews I no longer associate with.


  21. Nevergiveup
    21 | October 14, 2009 10:37 am

    re: #18 by vagabond trader

    They must be running out of Vodka and Champagne in Moscow with the weaklings in charge in Washington.


  22. teacake
    22 | October 14, 2009 10:37 am

    Barry had a muslim childhood and all his family on both his father’s sides are muslim. Of course he would have a feeling of kinship.


  23. buzzsawmonkey
    23 | October 14, 2009 10:38 am

    re: #16 by Speranza

    I really don’t care to discuss the past.

    I think I said all I really needed to in #112 on Monday’s Paleontology thread, though I’ve allowed myself to fall into a few other responses.


  24. Iron Fist
    24 | October 14, 2009 10:39 am

    re: #5 by Rodan

    That would work. My artillery based peace plan can also work in Gaza and the West Bank. All you have to do is spin up the tubes and keep ‘em fed…


  25. vagabond trader
    25 | October 14, 2009 10:39 am

    re: #21 by Nevergiveup

    Truly a disaster.The proles celebrate wee weed and the leaders snicker.


  26. 26 | October 14, 2009 10:39 am

    re: #3 by NoThreat2U

    He’s under the impression he was elected as President of the World. Haven’t you been watching his apology tour?
    /


  27. Ed Mahmoud
    27 | October 14, 2009 10:39 am

    Are we back in the Chocolate City yet?


  28. Scott Madsen
    28 | October 14, 2009 10:41 am

    re: #5 by Rodan

    They are as corrupt as the day is long.

    SLA sold out to Hezb’ullah in the end. The Marronites aren’t particularly found of Jews either. It was a relationship of convienance that played out once the Hezzies (with Iranian lucre) had more to offer materially than the Northern Command did.


  29. Iron Fist
    29 | October 14, 2009 10:41 am

    re: #21 by Nevergiveup

    Russian whores are giving it away in celebration of Moscow’s pre-emptive win of the Second Cold War…


  30. Speranza
    30 | October 14, 2009 10:41 am

    re: #23 by buzzsawmonkey

    Understood. Still it is good to see you again.


  31. Grimcargo
    31 | October 14, 2009 10:42 am

    They got one thing wrong. The U.S. is NOT furious. Because President Wee Wee does not speak for the whole of the U.S. F**** him


  32. teacake
    32 | October 14, 2009 10:42 am

    I was only gone for a month. Never left since. Apparently Barry is visiting here today for some reason.

    Don’t know what the acorn lady said about it, but she ended up getting fired this week. lol Guess she was bringing too much attention to the situation.


  33. Speranza
    33 | October 14, 2009 10:42 am

    re: #28 by Scott Madsen

    “SLA sold out to Hezb’ullah in the end. The Marronites aren’t particularly found of Jews either. It was a relationship of convienance that played out once the Hezzies (with Iranian lucre) had more to offer materially than the Northern Command did.”

    Some of the most anti Isreal people I ever met were Lebanese Christians.


  34. 34 | October 14, 2009 10:43 am

    re: #28 by Scott Madsen

    Well ask yourself, who would give Israel less trouble?

    A Maronite Lebanon or the current Islamic Lebanon.

    Also those SLA units that defected were Shia, not Maronites.


  35. vagabond trader
    35 | October 14, 2009 10:45 am

    re: #27 by Ed Mahmoud

    I’m a white chocolate broad myself.

    :D


  36. Flyovercountry
    36 | October 14, 2009 10:45 am

    re: #19 by Speranza

    I remember sending some pertinant information about Obama and his many prominent statements which I felt were nescessary for any Jew to know. Her curt response was, “don’t send me any more hateful things about Barak Obama, I don’t want to hear about it. I want you to respect my wishes on this matter.” that sums up our people’s blind commitment to the political left in this country. It is a cruel joke being played on those of us who are paying attention. I still remember that idiot Sarah Silverman’s video, “The Big Schlepp.” I believe that Sarah should be forced to walk around the streets there while her video is continuously shown on their public T.V. For whatever reason, it takes a larger whack on the head for us Jews to awaken.


  37. 37 | October 14, 2009 10:45 am

    re: #33 by Speranza

    They probably were Orthodox. The Orthodox Lebanese are are very Arab Nationalistic. Most Maronites I know like Israel/Jews. I do have Maronite relatives.

    My Point is better a Maronite Lebanon than the Shia Jihadi hell hole it is.


  38. Nevergiveup
    38 | October 14, 2009 10:46 am

    e: #48 clonefan

    This site is an incredible joke. What happened to you people?

    Clonefan is no more


  39. teacake
    39 | October 14, 2009 10:46 am

    Speaking of Lebanese Christians and Jews…. ya know what you get when you mix the 2?

    Tiny Tim. lol (true)


  40. 40 | October 14, 2009 10:46 am

    re: #19 by Speranza

    It’s the same with many Hispanics. They just vote for Democrats because they think Republicans are racist. Even though the real racists are Progressives.


  41. Nevergiveup
    41 | October 14, 2009 10:47 am

    re: #39 by teacake

    And he ain’t no Frank Sinatra?


  42. 42 | October 14, 2009 10:48 am

    re: #19 by Speranza

    Hey you are going to love my next post. I turn the tables on the Progressives!

    You’ll love it!!!!!!!!!


  43. vagabond trader
    43 | October 14, 2009 10:48 am

    re: #36 by Flyovercountry

    Uh huh, had to lose a friend because of it. She became damned near irrational and I am not one to zip my lip when things are not right.One funny thing, she wondered out loud if he’d cater more to people of color and ignore the needs of all the peeps. Wonder what she thinks now.


  44. Nevergiveup
    44 | October 14, 2009 10:48 am

    re: #36 by Flyovercountry

    Not all of us


  45. Speranza
    45 | October 14, 2009 10:49 am

    re: #34 by Rodan

    I agree however if I were Israel I would not allow myself to get sucked into internal Lebanese politics.


  46. Grimcargo
    46 | October 14, 2009 10:49 am

    re: #35 by vagabond trader

    racist


  47. vagabond trader
    47 | October 14, 2009 10:51 am

    rotflol, Sheila Jackson Lee wonders if the Mars rover can take a pic of the American flag the astronauts left there.


  48. teacake
    48 | October 14, 2009 10:52 am

    I think American Jews in particular are so desperate to fit in and not be a hated Jew, all the shame of being “a Jew” that to make up for it, they will say and do anything just to fit in.

    I forgot where I read this but some Jewish guy wrote an article about how he was a liberal, hung out with all his liberal friends and one night while at some cocktail party after many cocktails one of his “friends” said to him, “do you have any idea how much we all really hate you.”

    Wish I recalled where i saw that.


  49. Flyovercountry
    49 | October 14, 2009 10:53 am

    re: #44 by Nevergiveup

    I know, I mean I am a definate conservative. I know that other people here are Jewish. But unfortunately, our fellow Jews support any Democrat by an 80/20 margin. This happens even though the Democrats represent everything our religion does not stand for. I have heard many Rabbis sermonizing or commenting on voting against the GOP. The argument is always based on emotional appeal.


  50. Nevergiveup
    50 | October 14, 2009 10:53 am

    re: #48 by teacake

    Ah nah I don’t think it is that.


  51. teacake
    51 | October 14, 2009 10:54 am

    re: #40 by Rodan

    Not even racist I think. But its hard to shake the old stereotype that R’s are all old white rich men.


  52. Nevergiveup
    52 | October 14, 2009 10:54 am

    re: #49 by Flyovercountry

    Yeah I got ya. But I’ve walked on on more than one Rabbi who tryed to pull that.


  53. vagabond trader
    53 | October 14, 2009 10:54 am

    re: #46 by Grimcargo

    ummm ummm umm.

    http://www.infobarrel.com/media/image/508.jpg


  54. Marge45b
    54 | October 14, 2009 10:54 am

    re: #47 by vagabond trader

    Wrong planet Congresswoman! (It was the Moon Bitch!)


  55. teacake
    55 | October 14, 2009 10:55 am

    re: #50 by Nevergiveup

    Maybe stupid and trusting?


  56. vagabond trader
    56 | October 14, 2009 10:55 am

    re: #54 by Marge45b

    Our leaders,gaaaah!

    It can only get better right??

    Why are you snickering?


  57. Grimcargo
    57 | October 14, 2009 10:56 am

    re: #54 by Marge45b

    She’s missing from the Red Fox Show.


  58. Ed Mahmoud
    58 | October 14, 2009 10:56 am

    Teacake- do you live in Louisiana now?


  59. Marge45b
    59 | October 14, 2009 10:56 am

    A certain Blogger at Wal-Mart buying DVDs here.


  60. 60 | October 14, 2009 10:56 am

    re: #45 by Speranza

    Fair enough and they shouldn’t!


  61. Flyovercountry
    61 | October 14, 2009 10:57 am

    re: #47 by vagabond trader

    She may be the dumbest human being alive.


  62. teacake
    62 | October 14, 2009 10:57 am

    In the 60s the Jewish social events at the community center tried to brainwash us with hootenanny’s. lol God I hate folk music.


  63. Nevergiveup
    63 | October 14, 2009 10:58 am

    re: #55 by teacake

    I think it gets complicate. Up bringing, guilt, ignorance of history, ignorance of what the GOP is now as opposed to 50 years ago and the same for the Democratic party. And maybe a little self hate thrown in.


  64. Eliana
    64 | October 14, 2009 10:58 am

    re: #49 by Flyovercountry

    I know, I mean I am a definate conservative. I know that other people here are Jewish. But unfortunately, our fellow Jews support any Democrat by an 80/20 margin. This happens even though the Democrats represent everything our religion does not stand for.

    I love seeing conservative Jews online, don’t you?

    Our families are usually filled with moonbats but our heads are in the right places anyway. :-)


  65. kcladderman
    65 | October 14, 2009 10:59 am

    re: #54 by Marge45b

    No kidding! How dumb to you have to be to not even know which planet we faked a landing on?


  66. teacake
    66 | October 14, 2009 10:59 am

    re: #58 by Ed Mahmoud

    Been here about 20 years Ed. But I’d like to move to another place, just don’t know where to go.


  67. Speranza
    67 | October 14, 2009 10:59 am

    re: #60 by Rodan

    They should act in their best interests and if helping the Christians is in their best interests (which it is) then do so but be under no illusion that they (the Lebanese Christians) will love you because they wont (or at lest a large part of them wont).


  68. 68 | October 14, 2009 10:59 am

    re: #63 by Nevergiveup

    It isn’t just Jews but Hispanics also that should not be voting for Democrats. Most US Interventions were done by Democrats.

    The interventions in Latin America by Woodrow Wilson and the 1965 Invasion of Dominican Republic by Lyndon Johnson.


  69. vagabond trader
    69 | October 14, 2009 10:59 am

    re: #65 by kcladderman

    LOL!


  70. 70 | October 14, 2009 11:00 am

    re: #67 by Speranza

    Like Auon, he’s really shit head! He really sold out. It’s that Iranian Money!


  71. Grimcargo
    71 | October 14, 2009 11:00 am

    re: #59 by Marge45b

    PONYTAIL!!!!!lmao


  72. Flyovercountry
    72 | October 14, 2009 11:00 am

    re: #64 by Eliana

    Until the internet, I thought I was actually the only one. To answer your question, yes I love seeing you guys also.


  73. Speranza
    73 | October 14, 2009 11:00 am

    re: #64 by Eliana

    Thankfully my family was never a moonbat one.


  74. Nevergiveup
    74 | October 14, 2009 11:01 am

    re: #64 by Eliana

    Yeah booze sure helps with that a family dinners


  75. teacake
    75 | October 14, 2009 11:01 am

    re: #65 by kcladderman

    Good one!


  76. Nevergiveup
    76 | October 14, 2009 11:01 am

    re: #68 by Rodan

    Yup


  77. vagabond trader
    77 | October 14, 2009 11:01 am

    re: #71 by Grimcargo

    Man I am blind, at first I thought it was sans pants. Which would not surprise me.

    :mrgreen:


  78. Speranza
    78 | October 14, 2009 11:02 am

    re: #70 by Rodan

    Christians are only about 1/3rd of the country now. Too bad.


  79. Grimcargo
    79 | October 14, 2009 11:02 am

    Am I the only indian in here with all these jews?


  80. Grimcargo
    80 | October 14, 2009 11:02 am

    If there can be black jews I can be an indian jew


  81. vapig
    81 | October 14, 2009 11:03 am

    re: #33 by Speranza

    That’s because they live with the muzzie arabs are are spoonfed the same lies as the arab children. I’ve heard some odd stories of Lebanese Christians having to flee their homes (from mussie agression, of course) and run to Israel. They were terrified and were blown away by the compassion they found there.


  82. teacake
    82 | October 14, 2009 11:03 am

    For some reason 99% of my friends are lefties. None of them have really figured out that I’m not one of them. The couple of people that have won’t talk to me anymore.


  83. Eliana
    83 | October 14, 2009 11:03 am

    re: #73 by Speranza

    Thankfully my family was never a moonbat one.

    You’re very fortunate!

    I LOVE my family, but it’s tough if politics comes up.

    My threshold for developing tics and blinks in this situation has become fairly low.


  84. Nevergiveup
    84 | October 14, 2009 11:03 am

    FOX NEWS: Harry Reid wants Health bills merged and on the floor for a vote by 10/26/2009. The troops for Afganastan, Ah not so fast?


  85. vagabond trader
    85 | October 14, 2009 11:03 am

    re: #73 by Speranza

    Mine were conservative Dems,we called my Dad the foreigner because he hated politicians and refused to vote.


  86. Nevergiveup
    86 | October 14, 2009 11:04 am

    re: #80 by Grimcargo

    There are Indian Jews


  87. Eliana
    87 | October 14, 2009 11:04 am

    re: #74 by Nevergiveup

    Yeah booze sure helps with that a family dinners

    Quite true, but I didn’t want to say this myself. :-)


  88. Flyovercountry
    88 | October 14, 2009 11:05 am

    re: #68 by Rodan

    Nobody should vote for Democrats period. Not even county dog catcher is a safe job. The only way they get elected is by convincing people that they represent different ideals than they actually do. Thanks to a compliant incurious media, they are able to do this.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XivNwQ76mCs


  89. teacake
    89 | October 14, 2009 11:05 am

    Most people in the middle east have never even met a Jewish person. How could they if Jews aren’t allowed to live in muslim countries for the most part?


  90. vagabond trader
    90 | October 14, 2009 11:05 am

    re: #80 by Grimcargo

    Not positive but iirc TFK has Indian and Jewish blood.


  91. Speranza
    91 | October 14, 2009 11:05 am

    re: #85 by vagabond trader

    My mom was a Republican and my dad did not vote for many years because he did not want to be called for jury duty. My sister because a Republican before I did. My dad got put off by all the black anti Semitism he used to see on the news in the 1960’s.


  92. 92 | October 14, 2009 11:05 am

    re: #78 by Speranza

    They are 18 Million in Latin America ironically! Carlos Slim, Selma Hayek and Shakira are Lebanese.

    My Grandmother born in Dominican republic, her Parents where Lebanese and my Dominican family have Lebanese last names.


  93. Nevergiveup
    93 | October 14, 2009 11:06 am

    re: #87 by Eliana

    And even then I have spent many a family meal outside eating on the stoop alone to avoid violence.


  94. Grimcargo
    94 | October 14, 2009 11:06 am

    re: #81 by vapig

    Remember the Israeli hospital that saved the life of a pali woman and when she checked out she checked back in wearing a bomb.


  95. vapig
    95 | October 14, 2009 11:06 am

    47. vagabond trader on 14 October, 2009 at 10:51 am reply rotflol, Sheila Jackson Lee wonders if the Mars rover can take a pic of the American flag the astronauts left there.

    {{VT}}

    I’m going to take a stab in the dark and declare that she is the product of our public indoctrination centers.


  96. 96 | October 14, 2009 11:06 am

    Big congressional special election in Florida is about to begin. Big Jewish population in this district, perhaps they will see the light in America.

    http://jumpinginpools.blogspot.com/2009/10/another-special-congressional-election.html


  97. Speranza
    97 | October 14, 2009 11:08 am

    re: #83 by Eliana

    However a lot of my friends are moonbats so I’ve become quite the expert in sequeing topics away from politics.


  98. vagabond trader
    98 | October 14, 2009 11:09 am

    re: #91 by Speranza

    My Mom would now be an R or at least an Indy and my brother is a registered R since Reagan. I suspect there was something amiss with my fathers citizenship. He was British born.The Dems have certainly changed and it surprises me that so many Jews approve.


  99. Eliana
    99 | October 14, 2009 11:09 am

    re: #94 by Grimcargo

    Remember the Israeli hospital that saved the life of a pali woman and when she checked out she checked back in wearing a bomb.

    Yeah, they caught her at the Gaza-Israel border crossing with a bomb while on her way to a doctor’s appointment at the hospital where her life had been saved after suffering from cooking accident burns in Gaza.

    She was wearing 20 pounds of explosives under her clothes.

    It’s awesome that they caught her and stopped her.


  100. Nevergiveup
    100 | October 14, 2009 11:10 am

    re: #97 by Speranza

    “However a lot of my friends are moonbats so I’ve become quite the expert in sequeing topics away from politics.”

    Your a better man than me. I can’t seem to seque away from that stuff. I either explode or tell them they are morons


  101. Grimcargo
    101 | October 14, 2009 11:11 am

    NEW YORK – A New York bicycle cabbie has used his web site to post a prayer that calls on God to murder all Jews and exhorts Muslims to “throw liquid drain cleaner in their faces.”

    Yousef al-Khattab, who runs RevolutionMuslim.com and pedals a pedicab in New York City, insists the words he has posted on his web site are a prayer, and not a threat – and that his hatred is protected by the First Amendment,

    http://www.revolutionmuslim.com/


  102. 102 | October 14, 2009 11:12 am

    Guess what, Hussein, not everybody thinks you’re all that.


  103. vagabond trader
    103 | October 14, 2009 11:12 am

    Oh my, Rush is skewering Sharpton and Jackson with their own Jew hate words. “Zionism is a kind of poisonous weed choking Judaism.” and this gem “I’m sick of hearing about the Holocaust.”

    I should feel guilty about what???


  104. taxfreekiller
    104 | October 14, 2009 11:12 am

    Obama,

    Look back, LBJ, Jimmy Carter, Bill Clinton, now you. Not one of you liberal Democrats stood up like real Americans would. Why would any leader of any country, large or small/ for U.S. or aginst U.S. belive one word out of your lying Democrat Party mouth.

    History has you enclosed in your own lies.


  105. Eliana
    105 | October 14, 2009 11:13 am

    re: #100 by Nevergiveup

    “However a lot of my friends are moonbats so I’ve become quite the expert in sequeing topics away from politics.”

    Your a better man than me. I can’t seem to seque away from that stuff. I either explode or tell them they are morons

    This is tough for me too (trying to segue away from political discussions).


  106. vapig
    106 | October 14, 2009 11:13 am

    84. Nevergiveup on 14 October, 2009 at 11:03 am reply FOX NEWS: Harry Reid wants Health bills merged and on the floor for a vote by 10/26/2009. The troops for Afganastan, Ah not so fast?

    I think this is because they know they will probably lose the governorships in both Virginia and New Jersey. They want this passed before the blue-dogs lose their nerve.


  107. Scott Madsen
    107 | October 14, 2009 11:14 am

    re: #37 by Rodan

    “My Point is better a Maronite Lebanon than the Shia Jihadi hell hole it is.”

    Absolutely, they still attacked in ‘48 though. Again we can thank Syrian influence then too.

    However, today things are and could be different with developed economic ties between the Leavantine democracies. The original Lebanese are a reasonable pragmatic people and enjoy the same sensate west-med culture that Israelis do. If things were what they once were in Lebanon demographically there could be a very stable and productive Levant. Syria and Iran have fouled that nest though.

    Damn Shame

    All of the Christians I knew in Haifa grumbled a lot about all that was lost property wise with the creation of Israel, and anyone would who had farms appropiated to make way for urban planning. They were all IDF vets too and did reserve duty in some very tricky things. The saving thing is that they grumbled about the Palestinian movement more.

    I haven’t any ethnic ties to any of this, so I only go by my past observations in the early 90s.


  108. Nevergiveup
    108 | October 14, 2009 11:14 am

    re: #104 by taxfreekiller

    I know LBJ had his faults, many, but I’d rather not group him with the other 3. But that’s just me.


  109. vagabond trader
    109 | October 14, 2009 11:15 am

    re: #101 by Grimcargo

    I spit on it.


  110. Speranza
    110 | October 14, 2009 11:16 am

    re: #98 by vagabond trader

    So many Jews are reflexive Democrats because they associate conservatism with their oppressors. Funny because since WWII outside of Muslims, their biggest tormentors have come from the Left.


  111. Nevergiveup
    111 | October 14, 2009 11:16 am

    re: #105 by Eliana

    Yeah I didn’t think you would. Wish I had you covering my back at those times.


  112. Grimcargo
    112 | October 14, 2009 11:16 am

    re: #109 by vagabond trader

    lest now his location is known.


  113. 113 | October 14, 2009 11:17 am

    re: #107 by Scott Madsen

    Your observations are correct. The Arab-Israeli Christians mostly complain about Urban Development and lost property, but they prefer Jewish to Muslim rule.


  114. Speranza
    114 | October 14, 2009 11:17 am

    re: #107 by Scott Madsen

    ever notice that every Pali “refugee” claims he was living in a mansion. Man that Palestine Mandate must have been heaven on earth!


  115. Iron Fist
    115 | October 14, 2009 11:18 am

    re: #84 by Nevergiveup

    It is going to be interesting to see what they get through the Legislature. As of now, I think Obama would sign legislation that required the enslavement of unicorns, and mandatory pixie dust testing and call it “Health Care Reform”. He has to pass something, or he’s a lame duck less than a year into his first term.

    The Republicans should try and make it as painful for the Democrats as possible. Remember, the Democrats want to murder Old People, and they want to tax young people at 110% of their income. Neither one of those is exactly a lie, sad to say…


  116. Marge45b
    116 | October 14, 2009 11:18 am

    re: #65 by kcladderman

    LOL!


  117. 117 | October 14, 2009 11:18 am

    re: #110 by Speranza

    During WW2 as well, hint hint National Socialists!


  118. vapig
    118 | October 14, 2009 11:18 am

    94. Grimcargo on 14 October, 2009 at 11:06 am reply re: #81 by vapig

    Disgusting! Not I hadn’t heard that particular story. Have these people no souls?

    I truly don’t like the idea of killing people (I’d prefer to isolate these people and certainly I want the pali’s driven into the surrounding arab countries) but when you hear stories like these you (me) just want to carpet bomb all of them!


  119. Speranza
    119 | October 14, 2009 11:19 am

    re: #113 by Rodan

    Israel is the only Middle Eastern nation whose Cristian population has actually increased. Bethlehem used to be 90% Christian, now it is 80% Muslim.


  120. RickMZ
    120 | October 14, 2009 11:19 am

    # 65 kcladderman

    No kidding! How dumb to you have to be to not even know which planet we faked a landing on?

    This made me think of this completely inconsequential question: How come all the other planets’ moons in our solar system have names, but our moon doesn’t?


  121. vagabond trader
    121 | October 14, 2009 11:19 am

    re: #110 by Speranza

    Again, proof that educated people are not always infused with common sense.


  122. 122 | October 14, 2009 11:20 am

    re: #115 by Iron Fist

    Yup use the 95/96 Clinton playbook. Run commercials about Old people being killed. Sarah Palin was onto it with death Panels, but the GOP backed off.

    Republicans have no balls, they rather lose with “Honor” than win by ruthlessness.

    Sorry, in Politics winning is everything!


  123. vagabond trader
    123 | October 14, 2009 11:20 am

    re: #120 by RickMZ

    Sure it does, Luna.


  124. Speranza
    124 | October 14, 2009 11:20 am

    re: #117 by Rodan

    and Pat Buchanan and his ilk have been ridden out of the GOP.


  125. 125 | October 14, 2009 11:21 am

    re: #119 by Speranza

    Yup, Christians are being chased out of the Arab countries. Plus Christians in Israel can worship without harassment. In fact the Israeli Government has rebuilt Churches and Monasteries.


  126. apachegunner
    126 | October 14, 2009 11:21 am

    re: #49 by Flyovercountry

    and this is the reason i dislike so many in the american jewish society who cannot compare one iota with their brother/sisters in israel.


  127. Speranza
    127 | October 14, 2009 11:22 am

    re: #121 by vagabond trader

    Being educated and being intelligent are not always correlated. Look at any college faculty and you can see that.!


  128. 128 | October 14, 2009 11:22 am

    re: #124 by Speranza

    Exactly, he is at home now with his Progressive brothers. The Leftists on MSNBC love Pat Buchanan. he says what they feel in their hearts.


  129. Speranza
    129 | October 14, 2009 11:22 am

    Hey guys great thread but I owe my employer some work. Check back in an hour or so.


  130. Iron Fist
    130 | October 14, 2009 11:22 am

    re: #118 by vapig

    Political realities have always necessitated a certain amount of killing. All things being equal, I prefer to make my enemies do the dying. They die so much better than my allies and friends

    :evil:


  131. Speranza
    131 | October 14, 2009 11:23 am

    re: #128 by Rodan

    and he gives them cover so they can say “See we are balanced too”!


  132. vagabond trader
    132 | October 14, 2009 11:23 am

    re: #95 by vapig

    lol, hey girl!


  133. Nevergiveup
    133 | October 14, 2009 11:24 am

    re: #126 by apachegunner

    Well self preservation is a powerful motivator


  134. Eliana
    134 | October 14, 2009 11:24 am

    re: #111 by Nevergiveup

    Yeah – we could fight together!!

    A conservative friend of mine told me recently that another really good friend of his was talking moonbat stuff and anti-Israel stuff to him in a conversation. Very upsetting to my friend.

    He then asked, “Would you like his phone number?”

    He said he wanted to send the cavalry (me) to help straighten the guy out. :-)

    I declined, though. I can’t even talk my own sister out of her moonbathood after having spent my whole life as a child in the bedroom that she graciously shared with me after I was born.


  135. 135 | October 14, 2009 11:25 am

    re: #126 by apachegunner

    I’ve met many Israelis who don’t have high opinions of Most American Jews, I kid you not. It really stunned me when I met many Israelis in NY spewing stuff that if they weren’t Jewish also, would pass as anti-Semitic.

    It boggled my mind.

    re: #127 by Speranza

    Maybe you can expound on what I just wrote. I don’t know if you ever encountered this attitude among some Israelis.


  136. Iron Fist
    136 | October 14, 2009 11:25 am

    re: #122 by Rodan

    You have to win before you can govern. All the high-minded political philosophy in the world does nothing for you if you are sitting in re-education camp while your enemies live off the sweat of your brow.


  137. BuddyG
    137 | October 14, 2009 11:25 am

    Bad News ?

    Say it with baby animals


  138. Nevergiveup
    138 | October 14, 2009 11:26 am

    re: #134 by Eliana

    Yeah my older sister is a moonbat also. But since I joined the Navy she has tried to shut her yap some.


  139. Marge45b
    139 | October 14, 2009 11:26 am

    re: #71 by Grimcargo

    It just has to be that certain PONYTAIL kind of guy! LOL!


  140. 140 | October 14, 2009 11:27 am

    re: #136 by Iron Fist

    Yup, instead these RINO Republicans would rather be a honorable minority, then be ruthlessly in power.


  141. Speranza
    141 | October 14, 2009 11:27 am

    re: #125 by Rodan

    Although idiots like the late Robert NOvak claimed that Isreal was harming Christian communities in Israel and the west bank – which was demonstrably false.

    If Jesus were back on Earth he wuld be carrying an Israei passport.


  142. 142 | October 14, 2009 11:28 am

    I guess I don’t have a problem with Israel’s anger.

    I’d be just as angry if any other country kept trying to insert themselves into our lives.

    Can you imagine if we had issues with Canada and the Egypt kept condemning us for building houses in Minnesota?

    We’d be facing away from egypt and, as a country, mooning them, 300 million butts at once.


  143. 143 | October 14, 2009 11:29 am

    re: #141 by Speranza

    Yup, his claims were debunked big time. As a Christian myself, I would love to live in Israel than any Islamic country!

    Plus Israeli women are hot!!!!!!!!!!!

    :-)


  144. 144 | October 14, 2009 11:29 am

    re: #120 by RickMZ

    How come all the other planets’ moons in our solar system have names, but our moon doesn’t?

    It does – it’s called “The Moon”!

    Actually, it does have a “real” name – Luna.


  145. Scott Madsen
    145 | October 14, 2009 11:29 am

    re: #113 by Rodan

    Yep.

    I think everyone would prefer it that way.

    And I would damn sure would prefer BiBi or even Rabin over BO as our president, shit, I would rather have George Hadad at that.

    /I guess the question now in the West should be:
    What is more preferable, Tranzi rule or Moslem rule….pick your poison.


  146. taxfreekiller
    146 | October 14, 2009 11:30 am

    re: #108 by Nevergiveup

    LBJ got drunk often, went down to the command center and changed the B-52’s bomb drop locations.
    When the strike on the VC/NVA headqts. in Cambodia just over the S.Viet/Cambodia border went down, should have been 36 planes. LBJ took 24 of them off that mission sent them to another his choice place, as they were on the way to nam. Only 12 hit the VC/NVA headgts. , the BDA team was on the way and did not get word and the team was inserted into a mad ass bee hive of “live”,, just bombed NVA/VC.

    Not just one time, many times.
    RMK/BRJ Construction Company built many of the ports, and instlations in nam.

    Brown/Root/ ===== and Johnson, Lady Bird, owners.

    spit on LBJ grave


  147. vapig
    147 | October 14, 2009 11:30 am

    114. Speranza on 14 October, 2009 at 11:17 am reply re: #107 by Scott Madsen

    ever notice that every Pali “refugee” claims he was living in a mansion. Man that Palestine Mandate must have been heaven on earth!

    One of my favorite stories was told by a Jewish man in either Gaza or the West Bank. He had built his house from scratch, himself. There had been nothing at all on the land before he came there with his family. After about 17 years he started noticing an old arab man standing outside his property staring at his house. Day after day this old man would just come and stare. Soon he noticed that the old man had brought a young boy with him. Finally irritated, he walked up to the old man and asked him what his business was. The old man answered that he just wanted to see and show his grandson the house he had grown up in as a young boy. He even produced a set of keys that he said went to the house.

    This is a true story and you can’t reason with this kind of crazy!


  148. 148 | October 14, 2009 11:30 am

    re: #142 by LanceKates

    Or if the Europeans, Russian and Chinese kept insisting that we give back the Southwest to Mexico, grant Hawaii Independence or give Puerto-Rico back to Spain.

    How would we feel?


  149. apachegunner
    149 | October 14, 2009 11:31 am

    re: #143 by Rodan

    you got that partner, seen the photo layouts of the IDF babes? wow


  150. vagabond trader
    150 | October 14, 2009 11:35 am

    re: #135 by Rodan

    I have and they were spoken by a bud who was a burly macho Israeli ex commando who had some fingers blown off in the 67 war.Great guy,drank like a sailor, no use for leftist American Jews,lol.He was also a munitions expert and inventor.


  151. Speranza
    151 | October 14, 2009 11:35 am

    re: #135 by Rodan

    Israel also has its academic leftists such as Ilan Pappe (now an exile), Baruch Kimmerling, Neve Gordon, and several others.

    Btw nice discipline being shown so far about not mentioning the other blog as you requested.


  152. Eliana
    152 | October 14, 2009 11:35 am

    re: #147 by vapig

    The old man answered that he just wanted to see and show his grandson the house he had grown up in as a young boy. He even produced a set of keys that he said went to the house.

    This is a true story and you can’t reason with this kind of crazy!

    Arabs who call themselves “Palestinians” sell keys that have no indents for any locks anywhere as supposedly real keys to supposedly real houses that supposedly still exist in Jewish communities in Israel inside the green line.

    Only 550,000 Arabs fled Israel in 1948, but 4 to 9 million Arabians claim to have houses that still exist in Israel (as if the houses had sex and multiplied with each other while the descendants of the actual refugees who’d fled Israel were being born).

    It’s a special kind of crazy alright.


  153. Nevergiveup
    153 | October 14, 2009 11:36 am

    re: #146 by taxfreekiller

    Yeah I understand, but unlike the other 3 I think LBJ loved America, he just was a shitty war time President. And yes he got men killed.


  154. 154 | October 14, 2009 11:37 am

    re: #151 by Speranza

    Btw nice discipline being shown so far about not mentioning the other blog as you requested.

    What other blog? There is no other blog.


  155. Speranza
    155 | October 14, 2009 11:37 am

    re: #147 by vapig

    Arabs are practiced liars.


  156. Iron Fist
    156 | October 14, 2009 11:37 am

    re: #147 by vapig

    There is only two ways a story like that can end, and both of them require somebody in a grave. The difference in the endings is the difference of who goes in the grave. Some things are so obvious that it is hard to believe that all sides don’t see the answer. The Palestinians know what answer they want, but they lack the strength of arms to bring it about.


  157. Speranza
    157 | October 14, 2009 11:37 am

    re: #154 by tqcincinnatus

    No other blog but this blog.


  158. vagabond trader
    158 | October 14, 2009 11:38 am

    re: #152 by Eliana

    Conversely, I wonder do any Jews have keys to their property that was confiscated when they fled Islamic lands.


  159. vagabond trader
    159 | October 14, 2009 11:38 am

    re: #157 by Speranza

    There can be only one!


  160. 160 | October 14, 2009 11:38 am

    re: #149 by apachegunner

    Hell yeah!


  161. Speranza
    161 | October 14, 2009 11:39 am

    re: #143 by Rodan

    Israel is far from perfect but I would take the worst of Israel over the best of any Islamic country any day of the year!


  162. buzzsawmonkey
    162 | October 14, 2009 11:40 am

    re: #157 by Speranza

    No other blog but this blog.

    Is this the online company of Rent?


  163. 163 | October 14, 2009 11:40 am

    re: #151 by Speranza

    Valid points.


  164. Eliana
    164 | October 14, 2009 11:40 am

    re: #158 by vagabond trader

    I’ve never heard of this.

    Then again, Jews in Israel from families that had fled from the Arab lands after Israel was founded aren’t looking to go back to Araby.


  165. vagabond trader
    165 | October 14, 2009 11:41 am

    re: #164 by Eliana

    Amen!


  166. 166 | October 14, 2009 11:42 am

    re: #157 by Speranza

    No other blog but this blog.

    And Speranza is its prophet?


  167. Speranza
    167 | October 14, 2009 11:43 am

    re: #162 by buzzsawmonkey

    It was a pun on

    “There is no God but Allah”


  168. RickMZ
    168 | October 14, 2009 11:43 am

    # 123 vagabond trader

    Sure it does, Luna.

    I hear ya, but not really. I googled Phobos, for example, and was greeted with a list of entries on the Martian moon. But when I googled Luna, I received lots of topics, but nothing regarding our moon.

    From the always unreliable Wiki:

    The proper English name for Earth’s natural satellite is, simply, the Moon (capitalized). Moon is a Germanic word, related to the Latin mensis (month). It is ultimately a derivative of the Proto-Indo-European root me-, also represented in measure (time), with reminders of its importance in measuring time in words derived from it like Monday, month and menstrual. The related adjective is lunar, as well as an adjectival prefix seleno- and suffix -selene (from selēnē, σελήνη, the Ancient Greek word for the Moon). In English, the word moon exclusively meant “the Moon” until 1665, when it was extended to refer to the recently discovered natural satellites of other planets. Subsequently, these objects were given distant names in order to avoid confusion. The Moon is occasionally referred to by its Latin name Luna, primarily in science fiction.

    So technically, the name of our moon is The Moon, not Luna. Which still begs my question, as ‘moon’ is a generic term for natural satellites revolving around planets. It just strikes me as odd. Don’t know why.


  169. Speranza
    169 | October 14, 2009 11:43 am

    re: #166 by tqcincinnatus

    I would have been a better prophet then he who shall not be mentioned.


  170. Iron Fist
    170 | October 14, 2009 11:44 am

    re: #158 by vagabond trader

    An interesting point, especially when the Mohammedans say that what was once Mohammedan must always be Mohammedan. Perhaps the Jews should look into adopting that mindset.

    After all, Abu Abu, Mecca and Medina used to be nice Jewish towns once, before the riff-raff moved in and put property values in the shitter…


  171. vapig
    171 | October 14, 2009 11:45 am

    152. Eliana on 14 October, 2009 at 11:35 am reply

    This very well may have been inside of Israel proper. I can’t remember. I DO recall that the man had said he built the house from scratch with his own two hands and that nothing was there when he and his family moved there (I assume he bought the land) and that they’d been there for 17 years before this guy started showing up.

    This is one reason why I don’t think arabs should be allowed to live in Israel.


  172. Rightside
    172 | October 14, 2009 11:45 am

    Hey everybody, lots of stuff going on, so can only do a drive by post.

    Now we have a government who targets citizens of this country for destruction.

    zero has already thrown Israel under the bus. I predicted that, as well as many others, long ago.

    Anyone else notice, that sometimes when drudge main page refreshes, the top part of the page turns red, then slowly fades back to white again?


  173. buzzsawmonkey
    173 | October 14, 2009 11:46 am

    re: #167 by Speranza

    Ah. I was thinking of the “no day but today” line, which is the only thing I know from the Rent score.


  174. Speranza
    174 | October 14, 2009 11:47 am

    re: #173 by buzzsawmonkey

    I never saw Rent. I think Jesse L. Martin from Law & Order was in the movie.


  175. buzzsawmonkey
    175 | October 14, 2009 11:48 am

    re: #170 by Iron Fist

    After all, Abu Abu, Mecca and Medina used to be nice Jewish towns once, before the riff-raff moved in and put property values in the shitter…

    The Ka’aba is actually a roadside attraction–the World’s Biggest Tefillin. Sort of like those big balls of twine or tinfoil that serve as roadside attractions in the Midwest.

    You got to attract the passing caravans as best you know how.


  176. Eliana
    176 | October 14, 2009 11:49 am

    re: #171 by vapig

    Yes, it was probably inside the green line (since this is where the Arabs want to move as a result of a peace agreement). It’s not going to happen, of course.

    The settlements in Judea and Samaria were all built on empty land and the Arabs definitely want to acquire them as a result of a peace agreement, but I doubt that any of them intend to live there. They’re aiming to move inside the green line. They just want to see 500,000 Jews thrown out of their homes in Judea, Samaria and eastern Jerusalem while they’re at it.


  177. vapig
    177 | October 14, 2009 11:50 am

    155. Speranza on 14 October, 2009 at 11:37 am reply re: #147 by vapig

    Arabs are practiced liars.

    Yes – IIRC this was actually a story about pali hatred being passed on generation to generation. The point was that this old man was teaching his grandchild a lie in order for him to hate people he didn’t know and teaching him that they had stolen from their family.

    In the same piece they showed an old pali film (shown to gradeschool children) that supposedly showed a Jewish teacher killing pali children. Dear Lord – it even looked as though the man in the film actually killed or seriously injured the child in the film. Really sick stuff!


  178. BuddyG
    178 | October 14, 2009 11:51 am

    re: #152 by Eliana

    as if the houses had sex and multiplied with each other

    Hey, there was a song about that !


  179. buzzsawmonkey
    179 | October 14, 2009 11:53 am

    If the Israeli Arabs weren’t so darn Muslim, they could open Palinesian restaurants. But Islam wouldn’t permit tiki drinks in giant hollowed-out esrogs.


  180. Flyovercountry
    180 | October 14, 2009 11:56 am

    re: #152 by Eliana

    Two eyedrops of beautyric acid, and nobody will ever go into that house again. You can find this stuff in any highschool chemistry lab in the country. Somebody did it to a dormitory floor at Ohio State in 1982. They had to evacuate 3 floors in Taylor Tower until an anonymous phone call told them what had been done and where the drops were placed. Every door on those floors had to be replaced. People were able to return about a day later.


  181. Eliana
    181 | October 14, 2009 11:57 am

    re: #155 by Speranza

    Arabs are practiced liars.

    This is a cultural issue.

    It isn’t regarded as immoral to lie.

    In Iraq, American interrogators discovered that lie detectors are useless there because there are no physical signs of guilt/stress/whatever when people lie in the Arab culture. They found out about this when someone they knew had lied about a very trivial matter that didn’t require a lie for any good reason (such as protecting oneself or covering for ones actions).

    It was a completely superfluous lie.

    So they checked into the matter with a lie detector. The lie detector doesn’t work in this culture.

    It’s not an insult to anyone to say this – it’s just a fact.


  182. Iron Fist
    182 | October 14, 2009 12:00 pm

    re: #176 by Eliana

    It is interesting to me that Israel has people of all religions living there, but the Mohammedans demand a Judenrein Judea before they will consider peace. As an outsider and student of military history, this points to what may be Israel’s fatal flaw. You are too damn nice. Life as an enemy of the Jews in Israel is pretty slick unless your name is Eichmann. Life in the so-called occupied territories isn’t really bad by neighborhood standards, either.

    Israel doesn’t give the Mohammedans any real reason not to prefer war, since it really doesn’t cost them anything of significance even when the Jews kick their ass six ways from Sunday. The “Occupied Territories”, shit. Nothing there but desert and undesirables. Take something that means something from them, and they may get serious about wanting peace.


  183. Eliana
    183 | October 14, 2009 12:01 pm

    re: #180 by Flyovercountry

    Israel is sometimes using a stinky liquid substance to spray on protesters at security fence protests these days.

    One spray and everyone has to leave to take a shower.

    It is absolutely foolproof.

    Even the stinkiest people on Earth would take a shower when sprayed with this stuff.

    It’s an incredibly good riot control technique.

    The IDF calls it the “skunk bomb.” :-)


  184. vapig
    184 | October 14, 2009 12:04 pm

    176. Eliana on 14 October, 2009 at 11:49 am reply

    Seeing all the Jews physically torn from their homes in Gaza made me ill. Although, I don’t think I’d be squeamish at all if I saw 1,000,000 arabs ripped out of Jerusulem.


  185. Eliana
    185 | October 14, 2009 12:07 pm

    re: #182 by Iron Fist

    One of the most ironic things about this whole situation…

    Do you know of the Bahai faith?

    It is a religion that was started in Iran.

    It is illegal in Iran today.

    The Bahai WORLD TEMPLE is located in Haifa, Israel.

    I’ve seen it – what a beautiful building!

    It reminds me of photos of the Mormon Temple.


  186. Eliana
    186 | October 14, 2009 12:09 pm

    This is a photo of the Bahai Temple in Haifa, Israel:

    Bahai Temple in Haifa


  187. NoThreat2U
    187 | October 14, 2009 12:09 pm

    I found a picture today that dispells the rumour about Charles’ ponytail. I don’t know how to post the photo here, so I will take advantage of the admins kindness and send it to them in an email. They can post it if they wish to do so.


  188. apachegunner
    188 | October 14, 2009 12:14 pm

    re: #185 by Eliana

    there is also a Bahai Temple in Wilmete, Il, on the shore of Lake Michigan. beautiful place, people come from 100s of miles around to get married at the temple.


  189. NoThreat2U
    189 | October 14, 2009 12:17 pm

    Mail has been sent. lol lol


  190. Ed Mahmoud
    190 | October 14, 2009 12:20 pm

    Karridine is Baha’ai…


  191. Speranza
    191 | October 14, 2009 12:23 pm

    re: #177 by vapig

    On the blog that shall not be mentioned the owner (before he went bat shit crazy) used to show photos of Palis with keys (funny but all the keys looked the same) lovingly remembering long lost homes. I tell you Mandate Palestine must have been the most prosperous place on earth. Every Arab yard had orange and olive tress galore!


  192. danrudy
    192 | October 14, 2009 12:26 pm

    re: #23 by buzzsawmonkey

    that was some awesome prose.

    my contribution.

    There once was a blogger from Venus.
    Who came to let facts get between us.
    He banned all those with a brain
    and embraced the insane
    so 2.0 exists to help wean us


  193. Speranza
    193 | October 14, 2009 12:28 pm

    re: #183 by Eliana

    Oh those imaginative Jews!


  194. Speranza
    194 | October 14, 2009 12:31 pm

    re: #181 by Eliana

    Back in the days before he was insane Andrew Sullivan wrote this

    THAT BARAK QUOTE: It comes from the New York Review of Books interview I linked to yesterday. It resonated with several readers and is still resonating with me. It’s about negotiating with the Palestinian leadership:

    ‘They are products of a culture in which to tell a lie…creates no dissonance. They don’t suffer from the problem of telling lies that exists in Judeo-Christian culture. Truth is seen as an irrelevant category. There is only that which serves your purpose and that which doesn’t. They see themselves as emissaries of a national movement for whom everything is permissible. There is no such thing as ‘the truth’.

    The tantalizing question is whether he’s referring to the PLO or the literature departments of most Ivy League colleges.


  195. Speranza
    195 | October 14, 2009 12:40 pm

    re: #183 by Eliana

    The skunk bomb

    http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2008/09/skunk-attack/


  196. Scott Madsen
    196 | October 14, 2009 12:42 pm

    re: #186 by Eliana

    That is in fact a Mausolem that holds the remains of The Bab, one of the central figures of the Bahai Faith:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrine_of_the_Báb

    The site for a future Bahai temple in Israel is above that structure towards the Mt.Carmel promatory. The site is marked by an obelisk but is inaccesable to the public. They allow the IDF to use it when they need it.

    The Bahais take great pains not to prostelyze in Israel which is out of character for the ones I have meet here in the states.

    They are theists who believe in an eventual world order or Bahai World Commonwealth. The large greek marble buildings adjacent to the Babs place are the Seat of The Universal House of Justice, their future world governing body.

    Yes, Israel is very tolerent indeed. The Amadiyyah movement also has a small headquarters in haifa


  197. Ed Mahmoud
    197 | October 14, 2009 12:59 pm

    There is an Amadiyyah mosque not too far off I-45 at the Kuykendahl exit.

    Remarkable, a brnach of Islam that isn’t violent. They think the mahdi (the one the Shia in iran are waiting on) has already come and was ixnay on the eheading-bay.

    Part of their minaret was torn off during Hurricane Ike, took them about 8 months to fix it.


  198. 198 | October 14, 2009 2:18 pm

    THE GATHERING-IN: Israeli Growth Outpaces Rest of World

    http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/133832


  199. 199 | October 14, 2009 2:58 pm

    I have heard it said that 90% of American Jews would vote for Hitler if he ran as a Democrat.


  200. Eliana
    200 | October 14, 2009 3:03 pm

    re: #199 by George guy, Lizard-in-exile

    Actually, it’s not quite that bad.

    Only 75-80% of American Jews vote for Democrats and among these Jewish Democrats, a majority of them would side with Israel over Obama if push came to shove.

    /This surprised me, too.


  201. 201 | October 14, 2009 3:07 pm

    It would be relieving to see if that’s the case. I’d love to see Chairman Zero try to call them traitors.


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