We live in some very interesting times. Our Totalitarian Progressive Crypto Dictator kisses up to our enemies but goes after other Americans. Obama’s target is now Fox News. The reason being is that Fox holds Obama accountable unlike other news outlets. The Progressives have MSNBC/NBC News, ABC News, CNN, NY Times, Washington Post and the LA Times. However this is not enough for the Progressives, they want total control of the media and they seek to now intimidate and silence FOX News.
Calling Fox News “a wing of the Republican Party,” the Obama administration on Sunday escalated its war of words against the channel, even as observers questioned the wisdom of a White House war on a news organization.
“What I think is fair to say about Fox — and certainly it’s the way we view it — is that it really is more a wing of the Republican Party,” said Anita Dunn, White House communications director, on CNN. “They take their talking points, put them on the air; take their opposition research, put them on the air. And that’s fine. But let’s not pretend they’re a news network the way CNN is.”
Fox News senior vice president Michael Clemente, who likens the channel to a newspaper with separate sections on straight news and commentary, suggested White House officials were intentionally conflating opinion show hosts like Glenn Beck with news reporters like Major Garrett.
“It’s astounding the White House cannot distinguish between news and opinion programming,” Clemente said. “It seems self-serving on their part.”
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If there is any doubt on the totalitarian nature of the Progressives, this should end it. When Bush was President, the media launched non stop attacks on him. Keith Olbermann called Bush a Fascist, yet the Republicans never called out these attacks. The Progressives on the other hand want to silence their critics.
Progressives don’t care about freedom of speech or individual liberty. They want to rule without opposition and impose their views on others. They view opposing views as a nuisance that must be removed by any means. It is times like these that we should be lucky there is a Constitution that allows freedom of expression. If left to their own devices, the Progressives would get rid of this right. This incident reveals their evil and fascist nature.
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hey it’s great for ratings and makes the Obama admin look bad. And the good news, FOX is fighting back and not folding.
Strange, I thought of that before I even knew what the topic was going to be.
Wish I could do that with the Powerball.
re: #1 by mjazz
Is that “first” in Nepalese?
The thing is, Fox was critical of the Bush Administration when they felt it called for it.
Here we have CNN defendin 0 against SNL for goodness sake.
re: #4 by African Moondog
Nope.
What’s strange is that Fox really isn’t Conservative… they’re Centrist.
The Conservatives choose Fox because it isn’t as radically left as the other stations.
This isn’t about FOX though, this is about Glenn Beck and Sean Hannity……. I’m sure the left has no problem with the lefties on FOX, like Shep, some of the folks from the Red Eye show, half the folks in the panels on the finance shows, the lady from NPR, etc.
Fox does what they say: Fair and Balanced. They have liberals and conservatives on together to talk. Both sides give their opinion.
Obama going after Fox News will only strenghen Fox News.
Ask Rush Limbaugh about the effects of the media and political hacks demonizing him : His ratings increase.
Fucking with FNC is going to backfire hard. Just like when selkcuhC 86′d a bunch of people for having an opinion. It backfired and people banded together to thumb their noses at his totalitarian ways.
Go for it Obama!
re: #1 by mjazz
It’s only a Constitutional Right, I don’t see why it’d matter….. the Constitution is so…. moot….
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re: #7 by LanceKates
They probably don’t even like the Liberals on Fox either. They are not Radical Progressives like Obama and his master Rahm Emanuel.
re: #7 by LanceKates
LK — I had this argument with a friend years ago. I pointed out the panel for a certain Fox show, 2 righties, 2 lefties, and a moderator who I conceded leaned right … so at worst/best it was a 60/40 ration, much better than you’d find on other networks … fell on deaf ears though.
It’s the nonpurity they despise.
Meanwhile, there’s a new Bill Whittle post up at PJM. Short, sweet, and VERY harsh.
That’s all — good day all — lots of work to get done today …
I think Obambi just gave Fox news another big break. People will tune in and their ratings will rise once again. Sad that Obama is trying to silence the only media center that doesn’t kiss his ass. It will backfire. People are already wising up.
re: #9 by LanceKates
re: #7 by LanceKates
Right.
I watched slimebag bob Beckel last night on Hannity. He’s a bully, but he gets his point across. They have open debate.
you don’t see that on the networks or MSNBC. It’s an echo chamber. No real conservatives are on those channels. they get fake pussies like tucker carlson, Scarborough, and piggy noonan.
the democrats on fox at least have some convictions and engage in a robust debate ( which they usually lose, but at least they engage)
FNC = blogmocracy. fair and balanced
MSNBC/CNN = ….do I have to ?
What a small petty crybaby this Obama is. He has spent his entire life being coddled and told how wonderful and special he is.Now that one single news entity out of many has shown his truly ugly side he is ready to subvert free speech.What FOX revealed is only scratching the surface of this Marxist corruptocracy.
The internet is the next target.
re: #7 by LanceKates
Beck and Hannity are leaving a mark. Their only option (in their minds) is to discredit the entire network.
Did Bush ever call out media networks/personalities by name?
re: #11 by Centaur
It falls on deaf ears because the people you speak to are no different than the folks on 1.0.
They don’t see for themselves, they just know that it is true.
And that’s good enough for them.
Besides, YOU watch FOX News, you can’t be trusted…. that’s what they were told, so it must be true.
I like Fox News and I don’t see most of the criticisms as valid. Fox is certainly closer to Fair and Balanced than any other media outlet and in the generally leftist MSM, Fox is our friend. So, I see Fox bashing from our side as stupid.
Obama going after Fox is even more evidence of his inexperience and lack of qualifications for the job he holds. It will bite him in the ass.
As my Great-Grandmother used to say: “Those who will not hear must feel.”
re: #17 by Centaur
never.
George Bush, for whatever you can say about his job performance, like it or hate it, was a good decent man of Class.
A complete and polar opposite of this chicago street thug
Note that they refer to Fox News as Republican not conservative because more people identify with conservatism then Republicanism.
I rarely look at the other networks. Maybe Fox is the only one giving Americans the information they need.
Has anyone seen the commercial where the lady is getting out of her car saying it may not seem like a big deal to Washington, but it’s a big deal to us? Doesn’t she mention Medicare and Medicaid and England and Canada too?
re: #18 by LanceKates
Yep.
Now, gotta go … have a great day all.
VT
“…how wonderful and special he is.”
Little known factoid. Teh 0 thought his name was Ed until he was 15, ‘cuz every where he went people said, “There goes special ed.”
Stuart Smalley of the political sphere.
I am off to call the Wah Wah Wah-ambulance!
Have a good morning everybody!
re: #14 by Irish Ho
It is OK to disagree…. and to listen to people with whom you disagree…. it helps you learn to cultivate your own views, purifying them through the fire of debate and analysis.
But that requires a desire to learn and a confidence that if you are wrong, it doesn’t mean that you have no value….. it also requires the humility to admit that you’re wrong.
Those are not the hallmarks of the left.
the 0 flag…snatched from the other place
http://cgi.ebay.com.sg/BARACK-OBAMA-USA-FLAG-3-X-5-BANNER_W0QQitemZ370258563999QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item563521539f&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14
Make no mistake this is an explicit threat to our First Amendment right to free speech.
re: #15 by vagabond trader
I think we saw the beginnings of that when he actually got mad that people were calling his ’stimulus bill” a spending bill.
re: #14 by Irish Ho
Agreed! I cannot stand Bob Bewckel. He is the Barney Frank of the panel.
re: #21 by Speranza
Very interesting observation!
re: #16 by Kitteh
Beck has to be destroyed, he is pointing out the Socialists, Communists and Marxists in the Federal Government.
Like a certain Senator did a few decades ago…..
so, like that certain Senator, the left works to demonize him, pointing out his perceivable negative qualities, as though that is a counter to his argument. It is already to the point that many are already qualifying any comment they make about Glenn Beck…
“Well, I’m not a big fan of him, he cries too much….. BUT [some form of "he's right"]”
A tear falling from his eye doesn’t change the socialists, communists and marxists in our federal government…. how about if we focus on those scumbags rather than some overzealous passion by the one pointing it out?
re: #18 by LanceKates
This kid, ok, young man, at work was always dissing Israel, so one day I brought in something for him to read and he said “That’s only trying to convince me of their side of the story.”
re: #10 by Rodan
I like Kirsten Powers a lot(and she is damn good looking!)
re: #29 by mjazz
“What do they think stimulus is?”
No, Dumbass…. why do you think we oppose the stimulus?
You’re right, and he just didn’t get it…… “STOP SPENDING OUR MONEY!”
And that’s met with “racist.”
re: #19 by Number6
During his recent media blitz he avoided Fox like the plague. Softball only, please.
re: #31 by Rodan
No down side to damning Republicanism because the national GOP is Democrat Lite, but this is still a center-right country non hard core ideological but conservative nation.
re: #34 by Speranza
For a liberal?
FOX doesn’t go far enough imho.We need MORE of these czars and other scoundrels exposed. Every. single.day.
re: #21 by Speranza
But that’s not fair!
re: #33 by mjazz
don’t you know how that’d get in the way of the hate?
DUH!
you’re not supposed to convince him… you’re suppose to JOIN him….. truth doesn’t matter, only popularity.
When I was young, there was a saying up in a classroom I was in:
“What’s popular is not always right, what’s right is not always popular.”
I can’t imagine what it is replaced with nowdays….. knowing where morals are going, probably “Be sure to wear a condom when you have sex with that underage, same-sex chicken.”
re: #32 by LanceKates
Don’t care if Beck cries. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. I listen to him now and then. He is doing the work, digging the dirt. And he never has to dig very deep to find it.
re: #37 by Speranza
Yeah and 52% of them voted for this jerk.
If Obama and Co. are serious about this, then o much the better for FOX. Obama will come out with yet more bruises.
re: #30 by Speranza
Beckel is just awful. Whiney and just plain wrong. Don’t know why Hannity has him on other than he needs somebody to kick now that he doesn’t have that whimp Colmes.
re: #38 by Nevergiveup
Hey beauty is beauty!
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=Kirsten+Powers+photos&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=B5bUSpTPKYz-Mfyy1JQD&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBMQsAQwAA
By the way Fox News is not as much conservative as it is populist. That is the key to its ratings triumph.
Morning you radical, stalking, racists…
LOL
Glad to see buzzsawmonkey made it out of Stepford safely.
Kirsten Powers is liberal but more of a classic liberal. Not a moonbat.
re: #38 by Nevergiveup
I think you hit on it. All the gals on Fox are hot. They’re just jealous.
re: #47 by tfc3rid
Just a few sane left in the asylum. Don’t know if they will ever make it out though.
re: #45 by Kitteh
Whenever Beckel is on, I turn it off. There are plenty of liberals – Marc Lamont Hill, Kirsten Powers, who are not bullies and get their opinions across gracefully and with class.
re: #50 by Kitteh
Don’t get Mandy and Lawhawk… Not at all…
Snowe is ‘undecided’ on the Healthcare bill….
I wish the news would just say it:
She’s not Undecided. Anyone “Undecided” at this point, in Congress, should have to wear a helmet when they walk around so they don’t hurt themselves.
She’s not Undecided….. she’s just waiting to see which side will give her the most money/power/position.
Bills aren’t about what’s best for our country. They’re not about what the Constitution says can be done. Bills are about getting each congressman special funding for their friends, or more power or prestige in their various money-funnelling subcommittees.
re: #52 by tfc3rid
A month or three ago, Charles put up some threads lying about us, even included a post from another blog, by someone banned by us, as evidence of that lie. Believing that lawhawk was a fair person, which had been my experience with them, I went to their blog and posted a comment about it, as did m and ma sands, just asking him to read our blog before making up his mind.
His response was to go tattle on us to Charles.
Lost ALOT of respect for him when that happened.
re: #43 by vagabond trader
I know. Still poll after poll says that more Americans by far identify as conservative then liberal. The One had everything going in his favor this year and he should have won by ca bigger margin considering we had a flatulent old bastard running on the GOP ticket who did not really want to win.
re: #53 by LanceKates
If she votes for this she might as well just change parties
re: #52 by tfc3rid
MandyManners if she leaves (which I doubt) will never come here. Forget lawhawk – he will never leave. Charles treats him with great respect.
re: #46 by Speranza
um
One wrong caption on that page.
re: #56 by Nevergiveup
whether she votes for it or not, I wish she would just so we could get fresh blood running on the Republican side.
What the hell is wrong with her state’s republican voters?
re: #54 by LanceKates
Sad.
Obama is willing to ‘go after’ fellow Americans who disagree with him…BUT he is willing to sit down and talk with Americas enemies to try and come to a peaceful resolution of differences….
Did I wake up in Bizzaro world, today?
Shouldn’t it be the other way around: The President is willing to talk with those Americans who disagree with him but will go after America’s enemies.
What happened to America, anyway? Anyone know?
Anyone?
Anyone at all….
~Norsk Troll
Obama is willing to ‘go after’ fellow Americans who disagree with him…BUT he is willing to sit down and talk with America’s enemies to try and come to a peaceful resolution of differences….
Did I wake up in Bizzaro world, today?
Shouldn’t it be the other way around: The President is willing to talk with those Americans who disagree with him but will go after America’s enemies.
What happened to America, anyway? Anyone know?
Anyone?
Anyone at all….
~Norsk Troll
President Obama, claiming to be the most Transparent President ever, having even MORE closed door meetings with congressmen.
Meanwhile, he’s still ‘considering’ the request for more troops in Afghanistan….. a request put in WAY back in August.
Maybe Obama means ‘Transparent’ like President Fonzie of Iran meant that iranian women are “Free”
re: #55 by Speranza
Unfortunately charisma appears to play a big role in politics.
re: #62 by Et Norsk Troll
Literally, the radicals have taken over… They have been working 40 years to make it so and they have…
re: #59 by LanceKates
LanceKates I got to tell you that given Maine’s registration and political culture – Snowe and Collins are as good as you can hope for. There will not be an Inhofe or DeMint in Maine so forget it. Driving them out of the party is stupid. The GOP needs to get over 50 senators. Suck it up and accept the fact that Maine is a liberal state.
re: #55 by Speranza
Hussein did a good con on the right of center Independents too.I hope they aren’t bamboozled into believing hes a centrist next time.
re: #59 by LanceKates
It’s a North East disease
OT – But check this out – good comparison between Obama and a couple of his predecessors….
A GOP controlled senate would give Republicans control over the Senate Foreign Affairs committee as well as the judiciary committee. Collins and Snowe are the only electable Republicans in Maine. Don’t cut off your ******* nose to spite your face. Hopefully blue dog Democratic Senators would balance out the Maine Twins.
re: #66 by Speranza
of what value are they if they’re liberal?
OOOO, the republicans have a majority, but half of them vote demcorat….
THAT’S a positive for America, eh?
Why don’t we just call BOTH Parties the “REpublican” party, then we’ll have 100% in Congress, AND the White House!
I mean, as long as there’s an R after their name, they MUST be good….
No, we need to get rid of the liberal end of the Republican Congressmen.
Moving to the left keeps losing elections, how about if we try something new?
re: #67 by vagabond trader
He had everything going for him yet won by 6 percentage points and we had a flatulent old bastard as our candidate who did not want to win.
Fuck you John McCain!
re: #69 by tqcincinnatus
LOL, “I blame soy.” Good point actually. Soy is full of female type hormones.
57. Speranza -
“. Forget lawhawk – he will never leave. Charles treats him with great respect.”
Just like he did for Zombie?
all it takes is just one disagreement with selkcuhC where you don’t fall in lockstep with his mantra, and first he sells you out. then the attack pigs are unleashed on you. then he bans you for some trivial.
so lawhawk might be popular today, we we can look at Zombie’s treatment as a predictor of eventually most of their fates
re: #54 by LanceKates
he is a moderator for Charles it appears. Comments have been deleted when he appears and Charles is still fast asleep suckling his thumb.
re: #71 by LanceKates
LanceKates LanceKates Lance Kates. You never learn. Better to have Republicans in the Senate even if they are somewhat liberal then Liberal Democrats. You want to have 30 Senatars out of 100 who are pure. Go ahead. Be prepared to be in the minority for a long long time. I hate Lindsey Graham but I would rather have him then a liberal Democrat.
re: #75 by JeremyR
lawhawk is not a moderator. He is from New Jersey and is asleep long before Charles goes to bed. (NJ is on EST).
re: #70 by Speranza
A GOP controlled senate would give Republicans control over the Senate Foreign Affairs committee as well as the judiciary committee. Collins and Snowe are the only electable Republicans in Maine. Don’t cut off your ******* nose to spite your face. Hopefully blue dog Democratic Senators would balance out the Maine Twins.
I agree. Look folks, I’d be ecstatic – almost in the actual Greek sense of the word – if we could get 100 right-wing conservative Senators elected. But it’ll never happen. Sometimes, you have to be content with a RINO who at least has an “R” after his/her name and contributes to GOP numbers that will allow the Stupid Party, rather than the Evil Party, to control the scheduling of bills, committee makeup, etc.
Sure, if there’s a credible chance to replace a RINO with a solid conservative, go for it. I’d much rather have Rubio end up being Mel Martinez’s successor than Charlie Crist, so we need to pour time and money into that primary bid to make it happen. I’m happy that it looks like Toomey will be replacing Specter, regardless of which party Snarlin’ Arlen belongs to.
But like Speranza said, don’t destroy ourselves trying to be “purists.”
re: #72 by Speranza
Ditto. We were had.
re: #74 by Irish Ho
lawahwk if you’ll notice does not get down and dirty on the social progressive threads, he therefore keeps his nose clean. He tends to stay above the fray positing things with a historical and current events perspective.
re: #73 by vagabond trader
LOL, “I blame soy.” Good point actually. Soy is full of female type hormones.
Yeah it is, I remember reading one time that soy is responsible for increased estrogen levels in males, and in high enough concentrations, may contribute to atrophy of certain rather important organs specific to men.
Later folks. I have to give birth to a mohammedan. Or, to put it another way, chuck a johnson.
(my bad)
re: #79 by vagabond trader
The GOP primary voters – the dumbest assholes in America with their sense of “primogeniture” towards candidates. McCain would’ve been disastrous ultimately for the Republican Party but better for the nation then Obama.
For the first time in my life we have a decent chance of electing an R senator here in CT. Then again it is CT.
*sigh*
re: #81 by tqcincinnatus
Whose blog is that, couldn’t find the title.Help us zombie Reagan you’re our only hope,” lololol! Sick but true.
re: #78 by tqcincinnatus
You are one smart fellow!
This is a center-right nation but as Bernie Goldberg said “If America is so hard core right wing – how come outside of Reagan we haven’t had a slew of hard core conservatives as POTUS? Eisenhower wasn’t, Nixon wasn’t, Ford wasn’t, GHW Bush wasn’t and GW Bush wasn’t.”
re: #77 by Speranza
On one of the over night threads there was a flounce, several comments. Irish rose signed on in the AM and commented about them. IIRC they were in a dead thread. Lawhawk signed in and wham they were gone. princess didn’t make his first post until three hours later. Irish Rose and lawhawk were the only new commenters. Icesleaze was no where to be found.
I was watching to see how fast they would be deleted, refreshing every five to ten minutes.
re: #59 by LanceKates
Maine has an odd demographic for New England. Many Democrats, RINO Republicans, few conservatives. It has been that way for a long time, too, 30-35 years that I have been paying attention.
re: #83 by Speranza
The GOP primary voters – the dumbest assholes in America with their sense of “primogeniture” towards candidates. McCain would’ve been disastrous ultimately for the Republican Party but better for the nation then Obama.
I don’t really blame the primary voters so much as I do the “fix-is-in” style primary system that the GOP allows to remain in place. All the early primaries are open – which assured that lefties were going to infiltrate en masse and give us an idiot for a nominee. Plus, a few states (IA, NH, SC, MI, etc.) basically get to determine the nominee since by the time you get to Super Tuesday, the winner of these early primaries and caucii already has the “momentum” needed to win.
I say that the GOP should hold ONE nationwide primary, and any state party that refuses to go along with that set up (I’m looking at you NH) should have its results decertified.
Obama wants to put the Taliban on welfare but wants to squash my solid middle class families higher social-economic aspirations.
What a way to win friends of consequence.
The Ghetto Rats and Trailor Trash don’t love me due to the government giving them my money. In fact they despise me and other producers more for it.
Why would he then expect religious fanatics without material attachments to love us for out lagress?
He is trying to take us (The American Mission) down.
re: #86 by Speranza
Yup!
Eisenhower Moderate Republican
Nixon Liberal Republican
Bush I Liberal Republican
GW Bush Progressive Republican.
Only Reagan was a Conservative.
re: #22 by mjazz
I think she was just refering to the soda tax.
When Moslem terrorists openly target and kill Jewish civilians the world yawns.
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/13/israelis-may-stay-home-to-avoid-arrest/?feat=home_cube_position1
But when a few Moslem civilians die because they hangout with the terrorists that Israel targets and kills, the world gets its Jew-hate on!
re: #76 by Speranza
I can empathize with LanceKakes however. It is maddening to watch McCain snatch defeat from the jaws of victory time and time again. The Nuclear option for judicial nominees, the current health care debate, etc. We also get that from a few others, Snowe, Graham, et al. There has been more than one occasion where I have felt that they were working against us, and not with us.
re: #85 by vagabond trader
Whose blog is that, couldn’t find the title.Help us zombie Reagan you’re our only hope,” lololol! Sick but true.
I’m not sure – somebody who hangs out at Ace of Spaces, which is where I originally found the link.
re: #89 by tqcincinnatus
I am sick of essentially two or three states deciding the nominee early.
re: #93 by bar
Disgusting! The most oppressive regimes on the planet are treated with respect and Israel, who wants peace more than the Nobel prize winner, is the only one singled out for “special” punishment? To anyone who thinks this is not related to Jew hate gimmee a break!
“You’re so vain
You probably think this song is about you
You’re so vain, you’re so vain
I’ll bet you think this song is about you
Don’t you?
Don’t you?”
The WH going after FNC makes me think of this song.
My concern is that the list of candidates we have available is the lamest collection of wussies I ever saw. Where the Hell are the Warriors?
re: #91 by Rodan
Exactly. Don’t forget Goldwater 1964 – he got slaughtered.
Nixon was far more of a liberal then John F. Kennedy.
Eisenhower also sent troops to Little Rock Arkansas and gave us Earl Warren for the Supreme Court. Nixon – wage & price controls, affirmative action, Ford – a dunce, GHW Bush – “read my lips no new taxes”, gave us David Souter on the Supreme Court, George W. Bush – never met a spending bill he did not veto.
Fox and Bretbart covered the Acron undercover investigations but the others didn’t. Zero’s little baby acorn is being beat back and FOX is blamed.
re: #25 by Mrs.Robinson
Dems need to call 1-800-whaa!
re: #87 by JeremyR
Well you could be right that he is a lizard monitor.
re: #100 by Speranza
JFK was actually a Conservative. He beat Nixon, because he was for lower taxes and stronger defense.
re: #96 by Speranza
Agreed. We need a better primary system. In this age of mass communication, there is no reason for not having all the primaries on one day. Make super tuesday really super.
re: #91 by Rodan
George W. Milhous Bush?
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZWU2NTMzOWUzMzNhMmZjYzU2YmUzY2JmYmYzOTU5Zjg=
re: #105 by JeremyR
and if you are not a registered Republican you do not vote in the Republican primary period!
re: #101 by Speranza
at least Dubya gave us Alito and Roberts.
re: #73 by vagabond trader
It will put the Quabash on the Squash:
“Soy is Evil Plant Semen”
snip]”Soy, when processed, has the estrogen like compounds, genistein and daidzein. Research has shown that these two evil chemicals can lower male serum testosterone levels up to 19% in four short weeks. Of course, those clowns were ingesting more plant semen that we would ever dream of but the fact is that SOY LOWERS YOUR TESTOSTERONE LEVELS. Even 1% is not acceptable.
We live in a world that hates our testosterone and seeks to destroy it. The insidious growth of soy by-products in our food is not coincidence. Be on the look out and be vigilant. I don’t want to hear about one of you drinking too much soy milk and then wondering why your life sucks or why Death Cab for Cutie is not coming to your city on their latest tour. (Side note, do pussy ass bands like this tour?…I can’t even imagine how fucking sad 5000 Death Cab fans together must be)”[snip
http://www.arthurshall.com/x_2007_soy.shtml
re: #104 by Rodan
“JFK was actually a Conservative. He beat Nixon, because he was for lower taxes and stronger defense.”
JFK cut taxes across the board, Nixon never did. JFK ran (falsely by the way) on a “missile gap”. Can you imagine any Democrat nowadays being more hawkish then a Republican?
JFK had his faults but he was an “enlightened Tory” according to historian Theodore White.
OT- I remember in 1972 Nixon won a 49 state victory and did not once mention McGovern’s name.
re: #97 by vagabond trader
Its sick. *spit*
First of all Israel should tell the world to lump it, rules in war are stupid.
Especially since they only apply to Israel.
Anybody not actively fighting in this war, has no say!
re: #101 by Speranza
GW Bush called Islam the religion of peace, then through the Refugee resettlement program allowed Muslims to Skip to the front of the Immigration lines. He cut Taxes that benefited mostly the Progressive Rich, instead of the Corporate Tax that would of resulted in Jobs and higher incomes for average Americans. He believe you can export Democracy like Woodrow Wilson.
Bush’s Compassionate Conservatism was just Progressivism with a Conservative Face.
re: #86 by Speranza
This is a center-right nation but as Bernie Goldberg said “If America is so hard core right wing – how come outside of Reagan we haven’t had a slew of hard core conservatives as POTUS? Eisenhower wasn’t, Nixon wasn’t, Ford wasn’t, GHW Bush wasn’t and GW Bush wasn’t.”
Well, I am firmly convinced that a solidly conservative Republican candidate WOULD win – every time – if one were to actually run one. I’m not so sure that the quality of previous Republican Presidents is as much a reflection on the nation as a whole as it is on the Republican Party leadership. Remember, up until 1968, the GOP was the more left party in America, at least culturally/socially. More GOPers voted for the Civil Rights Act than did Dems, etc. etc.
There are always specific reasons and explanations for the results of an election that defy broad generalisations such as Goldberg tries to make.
Eisenhower won because he was immensely popular as the general who beat the Nazis. It didn’t hurt that his opponent in both 1952 and 1956 was Adlai Stevenson, who was very smart, but also very bombastic. Stevenson’s speechwriters routinely had to tone down the rhetoric in his first drafts because they contained virtual declarations of war on the Soviet Union. That scared a lot of people who didn’t want things like, well, nuclear war to happen.
Nixon won in 1968 on the promise to scale back our involvement in Vietnam, and it didn’t hurt that the Democrat vote was split with the entry of Wallace into the race as the Southern Democrat candidate. We should also note that Nixon was perceived, at least, as the voice for the “silent majority” of socially conservative Americans who were becoming alarmed by the radical trends that started in the mid-1960s. Hence, the case can be made that Nixon was elected on the strength of social conservatives in the North and the Midwest.
Ford, well, he doesn’t really count since he never actually was elected President. When he ran for election, he lost.
GHWB was elected because people assumed he was going to be Reagan’s third term, and lost re-election when people knew that he wasn’t.
GWB, again, appeals specifically to social conservatives, and won even though Gore “should” have been a shoe-in. And he was re-elected as a decent war President who had at least done some things for social conservatives.
I think the moral of the story, if anything, is that the GOP pisses in the social conservatives’ cornflakes at its peril. Let’s not forget that the only kind of conservatism that won on 4 Nov. 2008 was social conservatism – via a number of very conservative ballot initiatives.
“But there is one area where we can make somewhat useful comparisons between Nixon and Bush: their status as liberal Republicans.
Nixon has a fascinating reputation as one of the most right-wing presidents of the 20th century. This impression is largely a product of the fact that few presidents have been more hated by the Left. But simply because the left despises you doesn’t mean you’re particularly right-wing. If LBJ were alive, you could ask him about this. Or just take a look at poor Joe Lieberman.
The truth is, Nixon was the last of the New Deal-era liberal presidents. He sponsored and signed the legislation creating the Environmental Protection Agency, the Water Quality Improvement Act and the Endangered Species Act. He oversaw the establishment of Occupational Safety and Health Administration. Nixon created the Philadelphia Plan, the springboard for racial quotas; pushed for Title IX (the women’s “equality” law); and hired Leon Panetta (later Bill Clinton’s chief of staff) as his director of the office of civil rights.
Nixon pushed aggressively for national health insurance that would cover 100 percent of the nation’s poor children. He increased federal spending on health and education programs by more than 50 percent and massively boosted spending on the National Endowment for Humanities. He tried to increase welfare with his Family Assistance Plan and Child Development Act.
Economically, Nixon got along swell with the chamber of commerce crowd, but he was well to the left of almost any leading Democrat today, championing wage and price controls as a legitimate tool of state, and boasting “Now I am a Keynesian in economics.”
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The reason it is good to have people in the senate with your party affiliation even if they don’t vote your way is that whoever controls the majority gets to make a lot of decisions, gets committee chairmanships, speaker position, etc.
So Rinos help if the alternative is a Dem who would vote the same way.
But it looked to the state voters like there was a chance to replace them with someone who would vote conservative more often, it would often be worth the attempt to do so, since the down side of having those Rinos is that they can use their influence, which is often magnified by virtue of being swing votes, to water down principles/bills to be more moderate, and they give the other side the cover of “bipartisanship” which for some reason matters to apparently a lot of voters who like to feel like they are splitting the difference between extremes.
re: #110 by Speranza
Bush was a Wilsonian Progressive Democrat. He was no Conservative.
re: #95 by tqcincinnatus
I recognized one name, MCPO Airdale is a regular at C&S and SondraK. I also see they get a ton of comments. Part of the barn Army?
re: #86 by Speranza
“Dole even exchanged letters with Nixon. Seeking advice for this race in 1996. And Nixon wrote…laying out how Dole should run. It was vintage Nixon. It was that you run to the right in the primaries, but not so far right that you can’t run back to the center for the general election.”
re: #72 by Speranza
The only thing McCain did right was pick Palin, and that was almost enough to get him across the line. So, of course, he blames her for his loss and treats her vilely just to try and make sure that she can’t succeed where he failed. That is the kind of RINO that we need to jettison. He might could have won the Presidency if he’d have really tried, but he’d rather win the Miss Congeniality award from the Democrats, and dump on the Republicans that backed him.
re: #117 by JeremyR
I recognized one name, MCPO Airdale is a regular at C&S and SondraK. I also see they get a ton of comments. Part of the barn Army?
I couldn’t really say. I don’t hang out at AoS enough to be a “regular” and am not familiar with the commenters over there.
Okay everyone, be back later, gotta go do some real work…
re: #112 by Rodan
Bush did oversee a capital gains rate cut to 15% for corporations and people in the 25% bracket and above. The gains rate for anybody below the 25% bracket is a mere 5%. For the 2009 and 2010 tax year, the cap gains tax rate is 0 for anybody under the 28% tax bracket. Bush’s tax cuts were well thought out and had a positive effect on the economy. Where Bush went wrong, was in using spending as a compromise to get those cuts. By the way, Reagan did the same thing.
re: #92 by vapig
re: #113 by tqcincinnatus
But Social Conservatism can’t be what the GOP is only about. What about Fiscal responsibility? Clinton was more of a Fiscal Conservative than Bush. The Gingrich era Congress was Fiscal Conservative and not so much Social Conservative. There needs to be a balance. Bush was only a Social Conservative and didn’t care about Fiscal or Economic issues. He pursued a delusional Wilsonian Progressive Foreign policy. He was a lousy President.
re: #107 by Speranza
I just sent back my latest GOP poll and beg for funds mailer back with a letter explaining to them that they will not see any of my money going to the general fund until (among many other things like treating politics as a social event like a cottilion and not war, RINO incumbent support, etc.) they fix the primary system.
Bachman and Toomey have recieved my finacial support so far. The GOP at a local level needs to be filled up with fighters and patriots not a bunch of slippery Chamber of Commerce status quo Used Car Salesman. There has to be a change in who the delgates to conventions are. People who wear baseball hats to public meetings and can bench their own weight without going to the gym three days a week, and spen more time at rifle ranges than golf courses.
re: #108 by Irish Ho
yes after first trying to foist Harriet Miers on us.
re: #124 by Scott Madsen
Good for you! I fully support what you did.
re: #112 by Rodan
Still spewing liberal bullshit talking points, I see.
Its not hard to figure out whether that statement is true or not. Taxes are not rocket science, its some pretty simple math.
33% of 100,000 is less than 39% of 250,000.
No matter what planet you live on.
Those rich guys sure got a nice break from Bush.
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re: #123 by Rodan
When Dubya called for “compassionate conservatism” I gasped.
re: #121 by Flyovercountry
They really didn’t have a bang for the buck. The missing part of the equation was loser Corporate taxes. Although the reduction in Capital Gains was good, it didn’t prevent Outsourcing or stagnant wages. Bush also presided over the most anemic job growth of a growing economy. It’s a Global Market and Bush didn’t grasp that. He followed an old 1980’s model that was outdated by the 2000’s.
Lower Capital gains Taxes Good idea, but lower Corporate Taxes needed to be done. His income tax reductions were a joke and a waste. He got 1 out of 3 right.
re: #97 by vagabond trader
NBC compared the death of the woman protesting in Iran, Neda Agha-Soltani, to Muhammad al-Dura.
http://www.camera.org/index.asp?x_context=3&x_outlet=17&x_article=1693
re: #125 by Speranza
forgot about that disaster.
at least he got the right two guys in the end.
probably by accident
re: #119 by Iron Fist
The way McCain’s people (Nicole Wallace, Steven Schmidt) have been backstabbing her, well they deserve to be hanged, drawn, and quartered.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w9p7L4nS4g&feature=player_embedded
Redstateredneck
re: #104 by Rodan
He lowered taxes and revenues increased.
re: #131 by Irish Ho
yes probably by accident.Also the Dubai Ports thing was Dumb!
re: #102 by Marge45b
Yep. Beck and Hannity hit the ball out of the park with exposing acorn and creeps like Van Jones. They are a real threat to obama &co.
Just listening to Beck and his guest made a very good point. Most of the people in obama’s administration were trustfund kids who got degrees but never had a real job. These are the snotty brats who are in control of taking the country down.
re: #127 by bar
A reduction of Corporate Taxes would of had a better effect. With a lower Corporate Tax, they would incentive investments here in America. Instead Corporations outsourced and set up shops overseas due to lower Tax rates in other nations. The US has one of the highest Corporate Tax rates.
The way to go would of been lower the Corporate Tax, lower Capital gains and lower the Income tax that would benefit more the Middle and lower taxes. That would of been a bang for the busk.
This position is not Liberal at all. Liberals don’t call for reductions in Corporate Taxes.
re: #118 by mjazz
Bob Dole yeah that was an inspired choice to be our nominee. Again, the GOP primary voter – the dumbest ****** f***** in America.
Jack Kemp (RIP) also the Democrts favorite Republican as V.P.
re: #110 by Speranza
RI didn’t vote for Nixon so he closed down the Quonset Naval Air Station.
re: #136 by teacake
Beck just had Vince Flynn on… Have to get his new Mitch Rapp novel…
The Obama nuts are happy to bashFNC because they are the only outlet that has practicesd journalism… Skeptical of everything, questioning everything and actually doing research…
re: #116 by Rodan
As Jonah points out in the article, Dubya’s second term resembled his Daddy’s first (and only ) term quite a bit.
re: #138 by Speranza
This whole thing just leaves the nominating process open to a new ‘Operation Chaos’ in 2012…
We’ll end up with another middle of the road Milquetoast nominee…
re: #134 by mjazz
But spending increased and he did not lower the Corporate Tax. That would of prevented Outsourcing and wages would of increased.
re: #139 by mjazz
The Kennedy’s could be pretty vindictive too.
re: #120 by tqcincinnatus
C&S= http://curmudgeonlyskeptical.blogspot.com/
sorry for any confusion.
re: #141 by Speranza
Yup, he was a combo of daddy Bush, Nixon and Woodrow Wilson.
As you see we are in the minority here about Bush. People really think he was a Conservative!
re: #136 by teacake
Beck is better on the radio then on TV.
re: #146 by Rodan
As Bill Buckley said “He is conservative but he is not a conservative!”
People think (Bush) he was a conservative because the left hated him so much, but the Left hated LBJ too and he was no conservative either.
Got to have lunch!
Well, off to pretend I’m working.
re: #137 by Rodan
Now you are contradicting yourself.
First you complain he cut taxes for the rich, now you are saying he should have cut taxes for those evil corporations.
By the way Bush did cut corporate taxes. The biggest reform in 2 decades.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6307293/
re: #147 by Speranza
I listen to talk radio every day since I don’t have a TV at the moment. Sometimes those guys can be very annoying, but they certainly do a good job at exposing what nefarious folks are up to.
Whatever people want to say about Bush ( and I am on board with lots of it) I would much rather have him as president than Barry Sotero
re: #107 by Speranza
That doesn’t work for states like Virginia. We are not even allowed to register for a party – we can only register to vote.
Does anyone know if its true that Pelosi and her husband own a lot of stock in medical supply companies?
re: #152 by Irish Ho
I miss Bush. He might have been one of the elite, but he didn’t act like it and he didn’t hate this country.
Nothing sets off the leftist screech-o-meter like FoxNews
I always got the impression that the Bush family laughed at conservatives at their elitist family dinners. Look at pappy’s top advisers -Scowcroft and Baker. Yeech!
re: #155 by teacake
No he did not hatre this country but he was a huge disappointment particularly in his 2nd term Condi Rice, Scott McClelllan, George Tenet, Paul O’Neill, Alberto Gonzales – a terrible judge of people!!!
re: #150 by bar
I’m not contradicting myself. His Income Tax cuts were a joke. It did benefit mostly the wealthy. My Point is that it didn’t have a bang for the buck. I am for lower taxes for all, even the Rich. The top rate should not be above 30% in my opinion. That being said, the Income Tax cuts should of been targeted for deeper reductions for Middle and lower classes.
As for you article, that is not reducing the Corporate Tax Rate. It was Tax credits not a lower rate and as someone in Corporate America, I can tell you it didn’t help.
Lower the Corporate Rate, more Capital gains reductions and you’ll have investments here in America.
How is this Liberal?
re: #152 by Irish Ho
The worst of Bush is better then the best of Barry O.
re: #87 by JeremyR
Assweasel was just over at zombie’s place taking a shot at buzzsaw.
Notice the way color is spelled.
threecoloursblue
re: #113 by tqcincinnatus
Good points. I have a couple of others. The first is on conservative social issues. If the black vote that voted against gay marriage in California would have also voted Republican, McCain might very well be President today. That said, I don’t know how the Republicans can gain that vote. I don’t understand how the Democrats have captured it the way they have. They are the pro-Slavery Party in the Civil War. It was Southern Democrats that put Jim Crow in place, Southern Democrats that enforced it, and Southern Democrats who fought against deseggreegation and equal rights. Orvil Faubus was a Democrat. So was Bull Connor. So was the fucking Ku Klux Klan.
Even with Obama, you aren’t seeing blacks in positions of real power the way you did under Bush, and the blacks hated him. It makes no sense, but that is the way things are. We can’t keep chasing that chimera. Write it off, and try and make inroads in the Hispanic minority vote. Bluntly, if the Democrats are going to use the public coffers to purchase votes, we are going to have no choice but to do the same. Make sure the public largess goes where it will buy us the most good will.
That is a place most Conservatives don’t want to go, and they are right in all the arguements that they will make, but they are ultimately wrong because you have to win elections in order to govern. Ideological purity that costs you power is useless. You have to pick your battles. Choose wisely the battleground where you will stand to the death, because you may die there. The Republicans aren’t good at this.
Bill Clinton was a master at it. Ideologically he didn’t want to sign welfare reform. He vetoed it, what, twice? But when Dick Morris told him sign it or lose the ‘96 election, he signed it. He went on to win, and to claim welfare reform as a great success of his Presidency. Whatever else you may say about the man, he was a masterful politician.
We aren’t that good, but we don’t have to be. Welfare Reform was our idea. It was spectacularly successful, though there is still more that could be done. There are other issues we could fight for and win, but we don’t. i always come back to the gun control debate because it is near and dear to my heart, but it is near and dear to the hearts of many Americans. Polls show 70-80% of the electorate believes that the Second Amendment is an individual right. They also believe (correctly) that the Democrats would take that right away from them if they had the chance. The Republicans should have been the defenders of the Second Amendment all along, but for various reasons were not.
That is in the past. If we would make a bold stand now one of two things would happen. Either the Democrats would fight us or they would cave. Either one is a political victory for the Republicans. The best purely political result would be for the Republicans to fight hard for the Second Amendment and lose to the Democrats who opposed it. We’d take the House and Senate with comfortable margins next year. I think the Democrats would, after beating their breast about all the kids the Republicans want to kill, quietly acquiesce to whatever the Republicans proposed. This would still be a victry for us to take into the fall campaign. It would motivate large numbers of people to donate to the Republican cause, and frankly would cost next to nothing in terms of backlash. The people who will freak about it don’t vote Republican anyway.
The Republicans, of course, won’t do any of this. They really are the Stupid Party. We vote for them only because the Democrats are worse. The Democrats are the evil Party. Fortunately, though, they aren’t a particularly coherent evil right now. I wish them all confusion and discord.
re: #152 by Irish Ho
I’ll agree with that!
Obama is a disaster, he is on purpose destroying this country. Bush whatever his bad judgment was not destroying America on purpose. That is the difference.
I’ll take Bush’s unintentional errors, over Obama/Progressive intentional destruction.
re: #157 by Speranza
Yup let’s not forget Baker, who is an anti-Semite!
For some reason pretty much all my friends are lefties. They all voted for obama, were excited to vote for him because they wanted a black president. If he hadn’t been black I suppose Hillary would be in office now.
So of course, my thoughts on this are the reason they cry racist at every turn of criticizing him, is because they voted for him based on race. I’m not saying this very well. Lefties are very much programmed to belive you can’t say anything bad about black people, they are sacred cows who any little normal thing you would criticize someone for, is off the table.
In that light, I’d have to say that its the Left who isn’t ready to have an ethnic guy for president. THe left always trashes a Rep pres. and the Right always trashes a Dem pres. Did they forget that’s how life goes? lol
re: #160 by Speranza
Yup I agree 100%.
Here is teh difference:
Bush was naive and had bad judgment.
Obama knows what he is doing and has an agenda to destroy America.
That is the difference.
re: #161 by FishOrCutBait
On which thread was the witch on?
I see her. She is threecolursblue (note the “our” in colours.
re: #162 by Iron Fist
I agree with what you wrote 100%!
This sounds like a guest post!
re: #142 by tfc3rid
“We’ll end up with another middle of the road Milquetoast nominee…”
Where are the good candidates? (We don’t have any.)
re: #164 by teacake
Yeah, the only problem I had with Bush was his obligations to the house of saud. I also think W was a bit of a puppet for his father and was obligated to him as well. He was a nice man with a good heart and not as dumb as the Left think he was.
re: #159 by Rodan
Keep in mind that the bottom 50% of income earners pay nothing in Federal income tax as it is. Because of that, naturally any income tax cut will mostly benifit the “wealthy”. It is hard to cut down from zero.
re: #171 by Iron Fist
Yeah valid point. the fact that 50% don’t pay taxes, other than FICA or Medicare/Medicaid alone is dangerous. This creates a free riding group that will vote for Progressives.
That is why I am not a big Income Tax reductions guy. I think a reduction in Corporate and capital gains is the way to go. As for Income taxes, The fact 50% don’t pay is very dangerous.
re: #124 by Scott Madsen
IMHO what we should do is what the progs did – flood the GOP with moola – then call the shots. Threaten to pull the funds if they don’t pull the line.
The Soros lefties did that and succeeded. Their motto a couple years ago was, “We bought it and now we own it,” in reference to the DNC.
We all can see that they were right. Who would have ever thought the day would come when the koskidz would be on speaker phones with the House/Senate progs?
And my last comment for this morning before I go is for decades people on the Left hated the fact we were a super power and wanted desperately to be taken down several notches. Most were from either middle class or well to do families and I guess they were ashamed to have it so good when children in Africa were starving. That was the buzz word in the 50s when your parents wanted you to finish what was on your plate.
And now the kids of the 50s and 60s are in power and living out their adolescent dreams. Sad and scary.
Leftists are the self-described advocates of women’s rights, gay rights, and separation of church & state.
However, leftists are virtually silent about muslim society regarding these issues. They don’t have much to say about burkas, honor killings, clitorectomys, execution of homosexuals, sharia law, etc.
Instead they loudly rail against FoxNews, Halliburton, Glen Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Sarah Palin, John Bolton, etc.
Sigh . . .
re: #172 by Rodan
The only problem with my idea is that it’s not politically popular. If someone ran on let’s Reduce Corporate Taxes, they Progressives would label it tax cuts for the rich. Even though the fact we have one of the highest Corporate Rates in the world. The result is outsourcing and lower wages. But people don’t see this connection.
I read somewhere that there is close to 12 Trillion of capital of Capital sitting outside of America. We need to bring this capital back here to produce growth.
UN rights body ready to debate Goldstone probe
http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1120776.html
Make no mistake about it, this is the first step to delegitimize Israel in the UN.
re: #123 by Rodan
But Social Conservatism can’t be what the GOP is only about. What about Fiscal responsibility? Clinton was more of a Fiscal Conservative than Bush. The Gingrich era Congress was Fiscal Conservative and not so much Social Conservative. There needs to be a balance. Bush was only a Social Conservative and didn’t care about Fiscal or Economic issues. He pursued a delusional Wilsonian Progressive Foreign policy. He was a lousy President.
I agree that there needs to be a balance – that’s why we need to get back to the movement conservatism that Reagan exemplified. Reagan was both. There was no either/or with Reagan.
Frankly, though, we DO need to understand that shutting the social conservatives out will guarantee the Republicans electoral failure in perpetuity. Let’s face it – in a country where majorities oppose partial birth abortion, gay marriage, and even now are starting to oppose non-PBA abortion on demand, social conservatism will be a boost to the party.
re: #173 by vapig
Well, if I had a flood of moola I might consider it, but it’s a rather moot point at the moment.
Dark_Falcon must have grovelled becasue he is bank on LGF this morning
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Her followers will pay the fine for her, but It’s still good news. The crazy person got called out as she deserved to be called out.
re: #166 by Speranza
Kevin Jennings…thought I linked to it…maybe not.
re: #180 by Speranza
Why he wasn’t banned or suspended was he?
The weasel is getting hammered over at Zombie’s.
re: #178 by tqcincinnatus
Agreed, Social Conservatives are crucial to the GOP. We also need a message of Fiscal responsibility and economic competitiveness in a Globalized world. We need to economically cut the throats of China, India, Brazil, Europe and Rusia. We have to create a system, where jobs are outsourced to us!
re: #183 by Number6
Isn’t going to Zombie’s site, a banned lizard, cause for banning?
re: #172 by Rodan
I agree with you there. When they pay nothing in taxes then it is cost free for them to want to spend it. OPM == Other People’s Money. It is real easy to spend other people’s money. I’m not a fan of income taxes as a whole. They are punitive for the middle class and lower upper class. The truly rich like the Kennedys and the Rockefellers don’t pay taxes on their real money any more than they really poor (probably less than the really poor who wind up paying sales tax on every dime they make, beg, borrow, or steal). It is the broad middle class that carries the nation, tax wise.
I don’t really know how to get around that, though. You have to have tax revenue. Aircraft carrier battlegroups don’t grow on trees, and ballistic missile submarines require their own care and feeding. Business taxes cost jobs. Payroll taxes take money out of the hands of the producers, amounting to a form of forced servitude. I don’t think there has been a for-profit government in all of history. It all runs on some form of legalized theft. I have reluctantly come to the conclusion that as bad as what we have is, it is probably better than anything else that has come along the pike. Something is going to have to change, though, as the population ages. We aren’t going to have the tax base to support the structures that have grown up around our government, especially social security and medicare.
re: #185 by Nevergiveup
Not if you are dropping N*bombs, insulting former posters, ragging on the blog owner……
/but we are teh stalkers. *spit*
A bill making the rounds on Capitol Hill marries two feel-good propositions — tax cuts and pet ownership — to generate a novel idea: A tax break of up to $3,500 per person for pet care expenses.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/pets-save-taxes-congress-debate-happy-act/story?id=8811927
Well as a father of 3 cats, sure sounds good to me? Crazy but good.
re: #176 by Rodan
We need people who can make the case, like was done in the last convention by Thompson, for one, that only consumers pay taxes. Corporate income taxes are taxes on consumers, or shareholders which is most of us these days, or else will limit job creation.
I’d be happy with zero corporate income taxes, maybe a gradual decrease, or heck, all at once. It would be a much more sound function of increasing the deficit, as opposed to paying off liberal interest groups and beaurocrats.
re: #182 by Nevergiveup
He was banned yesterday. He must have sent a groveling email to Charles. A few weeks ago legalpad did the same thing.
Today the Navy celebrates its 234th birthday, marking the day in 1775 when the Continental Congress approved legislation that started the development of the Continental Navy.
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/navy_birthday_101309w/
re: #186 by Iron Fist
That’s why I feel a reduction in Corporate Tax and lower Capital Gains is the way to go.
re: #190 by Speranza
Really what was he banned for since when I have peeked over there he always seemed pretty much a follower of the hippie?
re: #118 by mjazz
Didn’t Nixon die in 1994?
re: #139 by mjazz
Never knew that. My brother was stationed there in the early 60s.
re: #189 by Nikis Knight
There is close to 12 Trillion offshore. We need to bring that home. We need to have a cut throat economic policy against other countries. Currently we have a bi-Partisan policy of being the Global suckers. We need a policy that takes America’s interests into account. We need to steal business from overseas.
Speaking of gun control, this will never fly, but it would be a good place for the GOP to hammer the Democrats on general principles. There’s always some moonbat proposing some form of gun control. It happens ever session. What is distressing is that there is nothing on the other side of that coin. Why not propose lifting some of the ornerous and assinine gun laws that are on the books. Shoould it really be a federal feloney worth ten years in prison to put a stock on a pistol? Given that you’ll only do a couple of years for rape, it seems a tad excessive to me.
This was what I was talking about earlier. The Republicans aren’t giving any real pushback on the issue. It is more like trying to decide how much infringement is cool rather that saying infringement is unconstitutional and therefore illegal.
re: #193 by Nevergiveup
I’ve no idea because the banning stick comes so fast you never see the original post but it was big news over here and there. Like I said he probably groveled like yechonan and legalpad did when they were banned.
re: #185 by Nevergiveup
“Isn’t going to Zombie’s site, a banned lizard, cause for banning?”
Not for the Inner Circle, apparently. Also, not using the LGF nic might just fool Chuck.
re: #185 by Nevergiveup
“Isn’t going to Zombie’s site, a banned lizard, cause for banning?”
Not if you go over there to bait and insult.
re: #192 by Rodan
i vote for a fair tax and all services, products, etc. 15-20%. everyone pays, no IRS
re: #199 by Number6
She used her old LGF nic threecoloursblue
Another boring thread about Global Warming is up. Yawn.
re: #202 by Speranza
Roger. I got that wrong. Feh.
re: #179 by Nikis Knight
Nobody can do it by theirselves. We have to organize and flood them en masse. That’s what the progs did. You don’t think a bunch of college students with zero income could do it, do you? But a few bucks here and there from them was organized into a flood of money.
That’s all we need – organization.
assweasel gettinghammered
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445HarryV on Oct 13, 2009 at 9:29 am:
Iceweasel: You are a low-life POS. When the history of the demise of LGF is written, your name will be prominent among the reasons why no decent person will be seen there or link to it. Congratulations.
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446Russkilitlover on Oct 13, 2009 at 9:35 am:
Buzzsawmonkey! Brilliant, as usual.
Iceweasel – yes, you are a bitch. A snarling, drooling, foaming at the mouth bitch. Deal with it.
Who’s the Dumbest Athlete Ever?
http://sports.gunaxin.com/whos-the-dumbest-athlete-ever/30293
Worth a vote
re: #201 by apachegunner
Interesting idea. I have read about the fair Tax and have a good opinion of it. It’s goal is to bring in undeclared capital from offshore back home.
Snow to vote for baucus Bill- asshole
re: #206 by Speranza
My favorite comes from Pullus Iulius at zomblog who said “back into your hole, filthy proggy pet” to iceweasel. *snicker*
Snow can kiss my Republican Jewish Ass
just heard on the news. the bitch olympia snowe will vote for the health care reform bill. gosh, wonder if she read it huh?
re: #208 by Rodan
It’s a great idea ONLY if they do away with the IRS. What they seems to be proposing, however, is to heap it onto the state and federal taxes.
re: #213 by vapig
that would be the “value added” tax vapig
Well goddamn it. I just heard that my senator, Olympia Snowe, will vote for Max Baucus’s healtcare bill.
On behalf of the state of Maine, I apologize to the rest of the country for this cretin.
re: #154 by teacake
Wouldn’t surprise me – their tentacles are everywhere. I believe it was Pelousy that wanted funds to go to a development in San Fran where her husband or some relative owned the land and would benefit.
Not saying that the GOP is devoid of hypocrisy, but the Donks have raised it to an art form. Is there any among them that don’t profit from their office or engage in behavior that doesn’t constitute a conflict of interest at the very least?
From zombies blog
buzzsawmonkey on Oct 12, 2009 at 5:13 pm:
totally OT:
Your Last Posting
(Los Angeles)
–apologies to Robert Browning and “My Last Duchess”
That’s your last posting ever on this blog,
And henceforth your account is blocked. You’ll dog
My site no further with your words; your nic
Is banished, and I gave your posts the stick.
You know I’ll call your banning here a “flounce”
Though I’ve been waiting for some time to pounce
On your account, and with prevarications
Distort and demonize your observations.
The Toad Hall where you reveled, if you please’ll
Be given entire to the stoats and weasels,
My countenance beaming on each one that
Comes to me bearing tales of Mole or Rat,
Or Badger, or…sockpuppet. No, ‘t was not
This writing only, placed you on the spot
And caused me to invoke the ban: perhaps
You chanced to differ with my own claptrap
And stick to your position, or dispute
Conventional wisdoms to which repute
I’ve lately granted. Don’t you dare to say
That I or my site might have lost their way
Obsessing on my personal vendettas;
I am neither forgiving nor forgetter,
And will not brook a failure of obesiance
By anyone I feel owes me allegiance.
Yes, I took Rather down, on grounds that he
Could not support what he claimed factually;
But now I set my sights at lower bar
(On personalities, not things that are)
While I squat ‘midst the wreckage I have made
Like mad Kurtz ruling from his bush stockade,
Ringed ’round with skulls. For I no longer deign
To weigh a fact itself; instead, maintain
That source determines truth, and to that end
The nature of veracity I bend,
Citing to midden-heaps of rankness such
That I would not long since have scorned to touch.
A turtle is a lizard in a shell,
And I, lord of my self-created hell
Remain King Yertle of the Turtle Stack
Exalted on my Posting Turtles’ backs–
Yet conscious, as I proclaim my renown
It’s just posting turtles, all the way down,
Which is why I respond with rage and fear
Should anyone mouth what I deem a sneer
Or contradiction. So I flip a switch,
And all posts stop together, with a bitch
Given reign of my elegant designs.
Yet, if I still retained but half a spine
I would despise appearing to be led
As I now seem to, by the lesser head.
Hark! Look you! See how Glenn Beck weeps!
Do you not loathe the company he keeps
Regardless of whatever he might say?
Here is the global warming word today;
Do not dissent, the banning stick is toward
I care for no voice save that of accord!
re: #201 by apachegunner
A national sales tax won’t work. I know Neal Boortz likes it, and has all the theory worked out, but it won’t come off as neatly as he indicates. Two reasons. Number one, you are still going to need the IRS. Someone has to collect and organize the collection of the taxes.
That leads to the second problem: tax evasion. A national sales tax will lead to the creation of a huge black market. there will be no avoiding that. There is already a lot of economic activity that takes place on a grey market level, i.e. between individuals where no sales tax is collected. That would just grow. If you can save 20% on your grocery bill by bartering for it with local farmers, what do you think will wind up happening? They couldn’t stop that kind of thing from happening in the Soviet Union. They wouldn’t be able to even marginally control it in the United States.
I can see sopme of the philosophy behind the so-called “fair” tax, but as a practical matter it just won’t work.
re: #215 by Runner
why is it that maine does that runner? i have friends in south berwick and everyone they know dislike snoe to the max. how does she get elected?
re: #169 by Number6
I’ll answer a good part of that with another question: What good person would want to be a candidate, given what the press and opposition would do to both the person and his/her family?
re: #215 by Runner
She’s going to support the whole bill. She will do what her constituents want.
re: #164 by teacake
That would make Obama a Holstein.
re: #173 by vapig
I did that in ‘04 (1k to a State’s Bush Victory Fund) and to a lesser degree in (’08 after the veep anouncment). Only to insure adverts in WVa and PA could be paid after the general fund contribution deadlines. This is in excess of my down ticket direct contributions
I cannot contanance my money going into an aggregate pot that would eventually support an Arlen Spector as happened when Bush threw himself and the GOP warchest behind him over Toomey.
If there was a conservative machine like Moveon with a daddy warbucks like Soros as seed money provider organized, I would get behind it but, there isn’t to my knowledge. I wouldn’t advise anyone to do what you have until there is such a conservative political organ with the numbers to issue threats to the GOP leadership. Otherwise it is just a fool and his money again, such as my above mentioned case.
At present for me its Teabaggin’ and directly supporting conservative candidates in and out of my representational juristiction.
I have been to a local GOP meeting and found it uninspiring to say the least. Basically Board of Supervisor issues viz zoning and increasing the Townships commercial tax base to mitigate against raises in individual earned income tax rates. This and school bond stuff.When I tried and start a conversation about the current Federal situation people didn’t seem interested to go macro as if there time is too limited to engage in such upstart conversation.
For the time being, I’ll save my general fund money for supplies that my familiy will need to survive the storm that is coming as a result of myopic “America’s Business is Business”, and damn anything else fundamental because we havn’t the time for it GOPers.
# 174 teacake
I was told it was starving kids in China.
re: #219 by apachegunner
One of the reasons she keeps getting elected is that her opposition is usually a crazy progressive democrat. At least last time it was. No one opposes her in the Republican nomination that stands even a chance. So basically it comes down to voting for her or the commie. That’s simplifying it but pretty accurate.
re: #218 by Iron Fist
shit fist, can’t be as bad as the current one. i am sure something like this could work with the proper implementation. people avoid the current tax, either local, or national just like you say the would avoid the fair tax. take the dollar out of the mainstream and require all transactions, both debit and credit, be electronic. add to that a search “adhoc” query engine to define custom searches for tax purposes.
re: #206 by Speranza
Iceweasel is now the face of LGF & you really don’t want to know what that actually looks like.
re: #223 by Scott Madsen
We need a Conservative/Libertarian Political Money Machine.
re: #220 by Empire1
That’s why The Progressives are better candidates. They are really miserable evil people. Hence they have no scruples in doing what it takes to win.
The Republican candidates also are bad people, but they pretend to be good to get Conservative votes. That is why they don’t fight hard, the Progressives have dirt on them.
re: #225 by Runner
clint eastwood should move to maine then
re: #212 by apachegunner
It gets even worse. Baucus was able to present decent CBO numbers because he initially submitted the bill with estimated numbers, and nothing specific. In other words, he gave the CBO a pair of rose tinted glasses. After he got the estimate he wanted, he changed the bill to the specific numbers of the cost of his plan. Guess what happened to the CBO estimate. Knowing that, Snowe still voted for the bait and switch bill. Rodan, even if she has an R next to her name, what good does that do when she fades when actually needed. Kick her dumb ass out of the GOP. She is oficially useless.
re: #221 by Rodan
Well, not all of her constituents want this. And if the calls to local radio hosts are any indication, no one wants this. That’s not a fair barometer though since the radio station in question plays conservative shows.
Frankly, I don’t think she cares what the voters in Maine think about anything. As long as she can get a seat at the power table and get reelected she’s a happy camper.
This state used to be a pretty conservative, traditional state. It has slowly become a crazy leftist state. It’s taken around 30 years to turn but the Dems have been in the statehouse for three decades and we have had a lot of folks from Boston and NYC making their home here as well.
In the entire circle of professional colleagues I run with there are only two (that I know of) conservatives. The rest are barking mad moonbats with Obama shit all over their Facebook pages and the bumpers of their cars.
re: #231 by Runner
Yeah I remember Main used to be Libertarian-Conservative.Now it’s Progressive Hard Left. It’s just amazing how times change.
re: #206 by Speranza
Where are those? I can’t find them.
Rodan, TQC, M,
you have mail.
There really must be a screw loose in the long haired hippies head. I mean he went from being a rather conservative blog to ape shit crazy left wing looney. 90% of his threads are virulent anti-conservative. There is obviously something wrong with him.
She’s going to support the whole bill. She will do what her constituents want.
re: #221 by Rodan
Well that’s unusual. My representative does what Pelosi wants.
re: #234 by WrathofG-d
Got it, I’ll pick one and put it up next.
re: #230 by Flyovercountry
You’re right about Snowe. I have sent her emails over the years expressing my dismay at her voting on some bill or another. I have threatened to withhold my vote for her and to tell my friends to do the same. But as I mentioned above, the choice often comes down to her (or Susan Collins) and a genuine crazy lefty. Frankly it sometimes amazes me that the dumb voters here in Maine don’t choose the progressive running against her. After all they just sent that nutjob Chellie Pingree to the house of representatives.
re: #235 by Nevergiveup
I think he met a nice muslim boy/girl to settle down with. I noticed a few months ago, he had a meet Rop singles add running on his site. I would not be surprised to see Charlie change his name to, Assud Islam, soon
notice chuckie has changes his “tip jar” to “donate”. is tip jar a bad word?
re: #239 by Flyovercountry
Asshat Al-Banner
227. RIX on 13 October, 2009 at 10:25 am reply
re: #206 by Speranza
Iceweasel is now the face of LGF & you really don’t want to know what that actually looks like.
http://twitter.com/JimmahIceLLC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRHvtfadUQY
oops wrong link.
http://www.youtube.com/user/JimmahIceProductions
re: #232 by Rodan
Well, to be fair to some people from Maine, the moonbat colleagues I speak about are all in Portland (lefty central in Maine) and most of them are actually from NYC or Boston or at the least were educated and started their professional career there and have returned home.
re: #239 by Flyovercountry
The U-turn is just breathtaking.
re: #236 by kansas
So does mine (Warner). And Webb does what Reid wants.
re: #237 by Rodan
Found this at Atlas as well.
Sometime good intentions go wrong when you lead with your heart and support things you only know a little about *eh chem*
Father of British Soldier (on active duty) Attacked by Islamists, and called a “nazi”, For Displaying Photos of His Son – The Soldier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yB3qnHmfaLg
re: #242 by shadowman
JimmahIce productions! WTF?
Those two idiots are keeping bad company, each other.
re: #247 by RIX
I too noticed the JimmahIce Productions. So did those two know each other before stinking up LGF? (not that it wasn’t already starting to reek on its own)
re: #226 by apachegunner
Did you really mean to begin that post with those two words?/
re: #224 by RickMZ
I was told India.
re: #242 by shadowman
The two of them ought to get a room together. On second thought we don’t need them procreating.
re: #160 by Speranza
Amen!
re: #248 by Runner
Yeah, I get the feeling that Ice & Jimmah know each other from another nuthouse.
They are always licking on each other.
By law ,they should never be allowed to mate & produce an offspring.
While the Obama administration is filling out their “Enemies List” (with the top spot going to Fox News) SNN’s Chris Matthews is openly wishing for someone to kill Rush Limbaugh:
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/13/video-matthews-muses-on-killing-rush-limbaugh/
re: #242 by shadowman
I am left speachless. I will say, looking back at the arguments on American Politics with Jimmah seem funnier now knowing he is not even a citizen of this country. I respect the opinions of everybody, but I notice that our foreign conservative friends state up front that they are from a foreign land. The Liberals will always lie or omit if they feel it will bolster their argument. What a loser though. Charlie, that is great company you keep, Jimmah, Cato, Icepimple, Schmuckatta. do any of them have an actual job?
re: #251 by Speranza
“we don’t need them procreating.”
Fuck that! Well so to speak?
re: #233 by kansas
On zombie’s blog on the Jennings thread.
re: #244 by Nevergiveup
I am convinced that people stuck around as long as they did because it was so fast. sort of like momentum. What amazes me, is how many are changing directions with him.
re: #258 by Flyovercountry
That is also troubling. I mean people can change their minds about things, but not 180 degrees like that. A couple of people really shock me.
How does this fucking woman’s head not explode?
Like CNN? Like CNN?
You mean the fucking network that fact checked an SNL skit?
We are under enemy occupation.
You may be Taliban if:
1. You refine heroin for a living, but you have a moral objection to beer.
2. You own a $3,000 machine gun and $5,000 rocket launcher, but you can’t afford shoes.
3. You have more wives than teeth.
4. You wipe your butt with your bare hand, but consider bacon “unclean.”
5. You think vests come in two styles: bullet-proof and suicide.
6. You can’t think of anyone you haven’t declared Jihad against.
7. You consider television dangerous, but routinely carry explosives in your clothing.
8. You were amazed to discover that cell phones have uses other than setting off roadside bombs.
9. You have nothing against women and think every man should own at least one.
10. You’ve always had a crush on your neighbor’s goat.
# 250 mjazz
LOL! I think. Africa, China, and India pretty much covers the Third World when it comes to the ’starving children’ boogiekid. Surprised it wasn’t starving kids in West Virginia or Arkansas, or Harlem or Chicago’s South Side. Soon, though, soon.
re: #253 by RIX
For all we know they are a couple (gag, I just threw up a bit in my mouth) and have a couple of rugrats running around the flat waiting for the day they too can go on the dole.
re: #240 by apachegunner
notice chuckie has changes his “tip jar” to “donate”. is tip jar a bad word?
It’s part of the “New LGF 1.0″
See, the term “tip jar” connotes a voluntary donation to selrahC, while the term “donate” can (and in this case, should) be interpreted as a command.
re: #258 by Flyovercountry
That’s great observation. I have to believe that some of them never had any convictions to start with.
Chris Matthews Wants To Kill Rush Limbaugh
re: #162 by Iron Fist
I quite agree. I would say more, but the post-monster ate my comment….
re: #264 by tqcincinnatus
Also, “tip jar” sounds as if you are giving money directly to CJ where “donate” implies the money is going to maintain the blog.
re: #260 by LGoPs
Like the CNN who would not report any negative stories about Saddam Hussein for fear of getting booted out of Baghadad. Yeah, they’re “real news” credible.
So what is all this then?
re: #264 by tqcincinnatus
I went over there last night right before buzz and ploome appeared here. There are no advertisers with the exception of amazon, but there are 3 beggar buttons.
Alms for the whore
re: #264 by tqcincinnatus
Capitalists/conservatives “tip” (it is based on service provided); Liberals “donate” (it is based on warm feelings, and charity no matter the service)
I don’t think there is some larger conspiracy, or actual intent behind the name change (if it occurred, I didn’t check) but it sure does fall into the theme that some sites are going Leftist.
re: #265 by Runner
“I have to believe that some of them never had any convictions to start with.”
Either that or very low self esteem
re: #264 by tqcincinnatus
I’d think you were reading too much into it, but it was obviously a deliberate change.
Maybe he doesn’t want the inference to a broke musician playing on the sidewalk anymore, and wants to portray the image of a professional non-profit organization?
re: #249 by mjazz
it kinda came out like a normal conversation in my thoughts. there was no disrespect of iron fist, he is a premier poster and more, just a term that maby need not be used, based on your observation. fist, if you were dissed with it my apologies.
re: #263 by Runner
Oh man , Jimmah & Weasel playing house!
it would take a Hazmat team to clean up that mess.
re: #30 by Speranza
What, he is teh ghey?
Since today is the USN’s Birthday, a little picture to celebrate the day.
http://militarytimes.com/blogs/navygold/files/2009/10/BLOG.3.jpg
re: #264 by tqcincinnatus
Perhaps that’d make it LGF 1.1?
he thought if they gave him a tip then the poor palis wouldent have anywhere to live.
re: #275 by apachegunner
I read it the way you thought it. It appears totally innocuous.
re: #259 by Nevergiveup
It’s a wonderful experiment in pshchology. It’s Milgrams 36 x 10. Charlie started posting stories that were 45 degrees away from his previous stances. Not every thread at first, but drbbling them in over time. Then he introduced the ding system. As people stood up against him, there was a reason to ban. At first, those that remained felt safe, after all, only 1 or two got banned. His minions were quickly updinging folks for agreement, and downdinging dissenters. A down ding from a minion meant you were targeted for execution. As time went on, Charlie increased frequency and degree of his shift. As more people pushed back, more were sumarily banned. Thos that remained, were rewarded and or punished with up and down dings. As building Karma, became as important as sane discourse, agreeing with Charlie, (asskissing,) became the new creativity. Almost as much fun is watching the minions stab each other in the back to gain position in the hive. Of course over the last couple of days, folks with more computer saavy than myself have outed some of the minions, and what a bunch of losers. Wow! How can anyone follow these dweebs?
Kook Lib Russell Simmons: God Will Destroy Us If We Don’t Follow Obama
http://gatewaypundit.blogspot.com/2009/10/kook-lib-russell-simmons-god-will.html
re: #235 by Nevergiveup
1.0: The Detroit of the blogosphere.
A once thriving community reduced to a nasty wasteland by incompetent and bizarre policy decisions.
re: #275 by apachegunner
You missed the “/” – only kidding.
Jimmah’s right hand is called iceweasle.
It’s been said they have sex often.
No worries though they practice safe-sex, Ice always wears a sock!
Jimmah’s pet name for Ice is Cool Hand Lucy!
re: #279 by Macker
Hey Macker, thanks for the win last night.
re: #285 by mjazz
sorry, i am an amature when it comes to the blog, i can’t keep up :>(
re: #284 by tommy torquemada
“1.0: The Detroit of the blogosphere.
A once thriving community reduced to a nasty wasteland by incompetent and bizarre policy decisions.”
I love that analogy. great one
re: #282 by Flyovercountry
Also, once Charles takes a position there is very little chance to change his mind, so if he down-dings you, if you want to stay you have to explain, hedge, modulate, or renounce your position or risk being banned and likely cut off from supposed friends and bad mouthed once gone.
The dings will tell you if you went far enough towards conforming to Charles to stay or are still in risk.
The 1.0 ship is sinking.
It’s Mandy Boats or Sail Ship.
Commenter “Measuring the Marigolds” at the Z’s place:
http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=927#comment-68627
re: #275 by apachegunner
I wasn’t insulted, but thanks for the clarification.
re: #270 by song_and_dance_man
I went over there last night right before buzz and ploome appeared here. There are no advertisers with the exception of amazon, but there are 3 beggar buttons.
Maybe we should start daily threads about the various advertisers who are dropping 1.0 like a hot potato?
JUST kidding
re: #290 by Nikis Knight
Guess that’s why my karma dropped 100 points over the last month I was there.
Can I cash in the other 5700 for a door prize?
re: #274 by Nikis Knight
I’d think you were reading too much into it, but it was obviously a deliberate change.
Well, I was being sort of facetious.
Sort of.
re: #294 by tqcincinnatus
the ultimate dinger- the bottom line.
re: #286 by FishOrCutBait
I am convinced they are one and the same person,right hand man indeed.
re: #290 by Nikis Knight
You may have missed it, but lurkers at 1.0 are no longer allowed to ding. One must have at least 50 comments to have ding privilege.
Yep, that’s right. You read that right. The cult advances.
Charles is laying next to his rocking chair and can’t figure out how he met the ground.
re: #295 by FishOrCutBait
More like a booby prize.
I’m surprised Charles hasn’t instituted a bit of code to retroactively either reverse or negate the ratings of anyone banned. It would show more reliably who needs to go next, I think.
I heard the audio of of Ms. Dunn(ce) last night. I couldn’t believe that she actually with a straight face offered up CNN as an example of a non-biased news organization.
I was just flabber-gasted. Libz live in their own little world where they are all gods unto themselves.
re: #294 by tqcincinnatus
It will only take a few days.
re: #286 by FishOrCutBait
Jimmah’s role at 1.0 is a virus delivery mechanism. He is there to serve as a crutch for iceweasel. Nothing about him registers on my mind to me except that.
Iceweasel is unable to recognize why people don’t want to stand in the same room with her. Kudo’s to Buzz for throwing some water on her to see if she will melt.
I didn’t read any of Buzzsawmonkey’s work as misogyny. nothing even close to the level of CatoTheElder. I did she Sharmuta flailing about sexism. I don’t think she or Charles really understood Buzzsawmonkey and preferred to put a negative projectionistic spin on his posts.
Iceweasel is a person you can clearly prove wrong and she wakes up the next day thinking she was brilliant and proven right. Just because she thinks so. That’s either drugs or mental illness talking. She won’t get healthy until she can participate civilly in a conversation. Thus the reason I think she needs a real job for awhile.
She turns sleights against her from nickels into manhole covers.
re: #290 by Nikis Knight
Charles does demand obedience. The other day he had Walter slobbering & groveling that he never “whores around & vists other blogs.”\
Hmmm, & I had high hopes for Walter.
re: #301 by Justa Joe
Bingo.
re: #292 by Russia on ice
Does that mean we can start calling it Hammerchuck?
re: #298 by vagabond trader
You may be right. I remember seeing them on DT several months ago drawing an alliance.
It was really gross, like watching two slugs mating. There was a slime trail too!
A New York bicycle cabbie who last year used his Web site to mock the beheading of journalist Daniel Pearl posted a prayer calling for the murder of Jews and exhorting Muslims to “throw liquid drain cleaner in their faces.” And there’s nothing authorities can do about it.
Yousef al-Khattab, who runs RevolutionMuslim.com and pedals a pedicab in New York City, insists the words he has posted on his Web site are a prayer, and not a threat — and that his hatred is protected by the First Amendment.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,565365,00.html
that’s an Obama-like argument?
5 the Dark_Falcon, sharmuta, jimmah, iceweasal chorus Tue, Oct 13, 2009 9:26:43am replyquote
* +90
* tip jar
* up
* report tip jar
Charles Chuck Ojohnson
MMMMMMMmmmmmm mMMMmmmmmmmmm mMMMMMMMMMMM
Charles Chuck Ojohnson
MMMMMMMmmmmmm mMMMmmmmmmmmm mMMMMMMMMMMM
re: #304 by RIX
Walter used to be something of a blog enforcer, happy parrot of the line, “You don’t like it, get out and start your own blog.”
Sharmuta sees sexism in anything. It’s her word for “I don’t like it” I think.
I wanted to post this zinger from Charles quicker but this site takes so damn long to load!!
26 Charles
Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:21:56am replyquote 8downupreport
Time after time, Obama has turned out to be not nearly as radical as I feared during the campaign. There are many examples — this is just the latest one
41 venezuela lover
Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:30:29am replyquote 1downupreport
I wonder if the Nobel Peace Prize panel wants to reconsider now that it is not clear if Israel is being thrown under a bus.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
re: #292 by Russia on ice
Pretty funny, but they forgot the most insidious “Time Out” hammer – where LGF puts you in the corner and belittles you to a point where you no longer have any self-respect. It is only at this point, and a certain amount of groveling that your new overlords will allow you the privilege to be their serf. (in the mean time however they will use the “flounce hammer” mocking tools against you.
re: #297 by mjazz
That raises an interesting question:what, exactly, is Charles going to put on his resume for the last several years? LGF? I mean, I can imagine the HR weasel squinting at him and saying “Little green what?” I don’t imagine having the HR weasel laugh at you is much better for your chances of getting the job than scaring the son of a bitch (I didn’t get a job because of that; scaring the guy, that is). I know it is Southern California, so he could always say he ran a porn BBS or something, but if he puts his political work out there, he’s screwed. Either his archives are going to kill him because he was one of those evil rightwingers, or the dude’s going to be pissed at him for being a turncoat. Or both. Nobody trusts a turncoat.
He better flog his remaining readers for donations, otherwise he’s going to be living on foodstamps and belly-button lint. He’s gone too far to turn back now, but the Krazy Kos Kidz are never going to forgive him for what LGF was like when it was a money-making proposition.
re: #311 by NoThreat2U
That only shows the hippie is as ignorant about the dynamics of the Middle East as he is consistant?
re: #311 by NoThreat2U
Time after time, that nuclear bomb has turned out to be not nearly as deadly to the entire planet as I had feared…
re: #308 by Nevergiveup
He says things like that and rides a bicycle in New York. Not too bright.
The O and his administration should be careful about taking on a specific cable station. This looks like they are trying to stifle any opposition voices since all the other channels are in lock-step with the WH.
Every day I become more and more uneasy with the direction this WH is going. They want to treat everyone like they are stupid and cannot make a good decision.
I am sure that many of the voices against Fox have never even watched it. The left is whining that they are not a “news” channel. They would have you believe that Fox is all commentating all day.
Also, I need to say that I abhor the vile things being directed at Rush just because he is thinking about buying a part of the Rams. They keep screaming that he is a “racist” yet they DO WANT him to be an owner in the NFL. Do these people ever listen to what they say?
You can almost feel a breeze over there from the quick shift to the left on that thread. Now that Chuck is glad Obi isn’t as “radical” as he feared, they are all giving Obi the benefit of the doubt. Also, according to the post, and fears that Obi will throw Isreal under the bus are being “exaggerrated”. His word, not mine.
re: #247 by RIX
Paid provocateurs? Agitators? You know it’s Assweasel from the use of the word butthurt. Amazing.
re: #311 by NoThreat2U
”
Time after time, Obama has turned out to be not nearly as radical as I feared during the campaign. There are many examples — this is just the latest one
”
Obama is exactly what he appeared to be; Charles is growing to like it more and more.
re: #311 by NoThreat2U
CJ either isn’t paying attention to the current administration or he has felt this way all along. Frankly, I’m convinced he voted for Obama despite his claims to the contrary.
The espirit de corps from 1.0 is definitely closed up shop and gone home.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morale
Intelligent posters no longer welcome.
I agree with your thoughts on Charles. Like I said, you could feel the breeze and hear a whoooosh when he said that. lol
Oh, and Obi is also great now because of approving a “surge” in A-stan.
selrahC is so naive
Naivete thy name is selrahC
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Charles Tue, Oct 13, 2009 11:13:46am replyquote
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Uh … so now we’re going to bash Obama for “backing down” on his promises to the Palestinians? Wowee.
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Charles10/13/2009 11:21:56 am PDT
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Time after time, Obama has turned out to be not nearly as radical as I feared during the campaign. There are many examples — this is just the latest one.
re: #303 by orangecrush
That is just Leftism in its pure, unadulterated form. They are all that way, but most of them try and disguise it more than Iceweasel does. Left is right and Right is wrong, so spake Nothing at the non-start of the Universe. She’s more tied to her faith than the most rabid religious fanatic, and nothing, absolutely nothing is going to change her mind about anything.
Coherent ignorance, in the same way a laser is coherent light.
re: #314 by Iron Fist
I see the enhanced tip jar at 1.0 as a last ditch effort to get money out of people he knows he is going to ban. The faithful cult members don’t need it.
re: #313 by WrathofG-d
I normally don’t post on Islamo-Fascist stuff anymore but I threw up one Turkey backstabbing Israel. The background is interesting and I documented the AKP and how it came to power.
Progressives pressured Turkey’s Military to not get involved in politics. The result was that the Islamists are now in charge.
re: #314 by Iron Fist
He can always turn to what he intended LGF to be. A web consulting firm. Heck, in my count, he has already designed 2 blogs. Well 3 including his. I’m sure there are many web designers who would consider that quite an accomplishment in, what?, 9 years.
Olympia Snowe is a Democrat mole in the GOP caucus, not just a simple RINO/moderate like McCain, and should have been expelled from the caucus after the Porkulus vote.
She just stabbed America in the back again on Marxist Medicine.
re: #318 by blondgranny
O’Reilly was saying to a guest last night- we can find no record of him saying these things.
And you know darn well if he had said anything like that, he has so many detractors that they’d be on it like white on rice and it would be preserved for all posterity. He said something about people wanting a black quarterback to succeed – wow, yeah.
re: #316 by archonix
Excellent point! I say we bring back above ground testing. We’ll need some desert to do it in, some vast tract of empty sand where there is nothing of any importance to be damaged…
Hmmmm, could it be…Mecca?
re: #321 by Nikis Knight
He’s so far to the left the dictators like him, and that’s not radical?
re: #311 by NoThreat2U
Obama is just hiding it. The take over of the car companies, the bank, and the way the stimulus pacakage is cronyized are pretty radical.
But you try and find a grassroots way to stifle opposition while the institution is deconstructed behind the scene.
Charles is getting the wool pulled over his eyes.
Have you ever noticed even though CNN brings up the rear in cable rating that still CNN is the network that is broadcast in all of the airports and other quasi-governmental facilities? Makes me want to vomit.
Re; Chuckles the Shiver Up his Thigh Andrew Sullivan wanna-be Clown.
Obama is even worse than what I expected. I knew about Wright, Dohrn and Ayers, but hoped like Hillary Clinton he might have moderated from flat out communist to just a socialist, but he is absolutely a revolutionary Marxist whose vision of America looks a lot like what Mao envisioned for China or Lenin and Stalin saw for Russia.
Obama is an enemy of democracy, free markets and individual liberty.
re: #323 by orangecrush
Charles wants to be the smartest person in the room. That’s why he has, or is in the process of, banning all of the 1.0 intelligentsia.
Can you imagine what that blog will be like when he is done?
# 326 Iron Fist
And Chuckles shall lead them to the Rapture. Or the vat of Kool-Aid from which they shall slavishly drink.
At this point, I honestly have no hope for anyone remaining there. They sold their souls just to keep posting on a dying blog. How freakin’ sick is that?
re: #337 by song_and_dance_man
Yes, I can imagine.
Jones liked Guyana because it was socialist.
re: #329 by song_and_dance_man
RabidRapid application development there, am I right? But blogs are so hard to write what with all the different ways you can present a column of text and pictures with a sidebar list of links and a couple of pictures for that professional look and feel that comes with applications developed in notepad. Look how many years it took Wrath and you and Rodan and M working as a team to develop this blog software. LGF is at least as challenging a task.Maybe with his extensive resume he can get into something easier like image processing or radiospectroscopy, x-ray defraction, or the like…
I propose that the White House be referred to as the Whine House, and that all references to the “last 8 years” be followed by group raspberries.
re: #337 by song_and_dance_man
Sahrmuta will be the resident intellectual there.
I posted three or four links about the Obama administration beating up on FOX news in a thread here yesterday.
Here are those same links again:
White House Escalates War of Words With FOX News
White House: Fox News ‘a wing of the Republican Party’
Obama aide accuses Fox of operating as GOP arm
Fox News heavies Bill O’Reilly, Glenn Beck bite back after White House dig
In other news:
Healthcare overhaul bill clears Senate Finance Committee
re: #335 by Justa Joe
“Have you ever noticed even though CNN brings up the rear in cable rating that still CNN is the network that is broadcast in all of the airports and other quasi-governmental facilities? Makes me want to vomit.”
That’s because they have contracts with all the airports. Jay Nordllinger (National Review Online) and John Hinderaker (Powerline) have mentioned the need for a CNN free zone at airports.
Anybody see this? The Nation thinks Obama is whining too much.
http://www.thenation.com/blogs/thebeat/483551/whiner_in_chief
off/on topic:
Re: Profanity
http://www.aish.com/f/mom/62833437.html
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