While I’m not usually a big fan of George Will’s op-eds, in this case he hits the nail squarely on the head, with his take on the childish entitlement obsession that leftists always seem to have,
You also see the problem with founding a nation, as America is founded, on the principle that human beings are rights-bearing creatures. That they are. But if that is all they are, batten down the hatches.
If our vocabulary is composed exclusively of references to rights, a.k.a. entitlements, we are condemned to endless jostling among elbow-throwing individuals irritably determined to protect, or enlarge, the boundaries of their rights. Among such people, all political discourse tends to be distilled to what Mary Ann Glendon of Harvard Law School calls “rights talk.”
Witness the inability of people nowadays to recommend this or that health-care policy as merely wise or just. Each proposal must be invested with the dignity of a right. And since not all proposals are compatible, you have not merely differences of opinion but apocalyptic clashes of rights.
Rights talk is inherently aggressive, even imperial; it tends toward moral inflation and militates against accommodation. Rights talkers, with their inner monologues of preemptive resentments, work themselves into a simmering state of annoyed vigilance against any limits on their willfulness. To rights talkers, life — always and everywhere — is unbearably congested with insufferable people impertinently rights talking, and behaving, the way you and I, of course, have a real right to.
Exactly. You can see exactly this sort of thing with the lefties who demand a “right” to abort little babies who happen to be inconvenient to the selfish lifestyles of their parents, and who do so by driving a Mack truck over the very real, actual, true-as-day right to life that is affirmed by no less than our nation’s own Declaration of Independence.
Will’s example of the selfish lefties inhabiting Blue enclaves like Chevy Chase is spot on. I live in a similar sort of far-left enclave, and I can testify that most of the people on the Left are some of the most unhappy, arrogant, bigoted, selfish, self-important, entitlement mentalitied nimrods in the country. They truly are the kind of people who would give an angry one-fingered salute to people trying to protect their kids from being run over by low-flying left-wing speed demons who think that their “right” to get to the arugula booth at the Farmer’s Market trumps other peoples’ concerns for the safety of their children.
Unsurprisingly, recent research actually seems to prove that living the upscale progressive lifestyle can make you act like a jerk (hat tip to Yid with Lid),
Just being around green products can make us behave more altruistically, a new study to be published in a forthcoming issue of Psychological Science has found.
But buying those same products can have the opposite effect. Researchers found that buying green can lead people into less altruistic behaviour, and even make them more likely to steal and lie than after buying conventional products. Buying products that claim to be made with low environmental impact can set up “moral credentials” in people’s minds that give license to selfish or questionable behavior.
“This was not done to point the finger at consumers who buy green products. The message is bigger,” says Nina Mazar, a marketing professor at University of Toronto’s Rotman School of Management and a self-admitted green consumer. “At the end of the day, if we do one moral thing, IT doesn’t necessarily mean we will be morally better in other things as well.”
Mazar, along with her co-author Chen-Bo Zhong, an assistant professor of organizational behaviour at the Rotman School, conducted three experiments. The first found that people perceived green consumers to be more cooperative, altruistic and ethical than those who purchased conventional products. The second experiment showed that participants merely exposed to products from a green store shared more money in a subsequent experimental game, but those who actually made purchases in that store shared less. The final experiment revealed that participants who bought items in the green store showed evidence of lying and stealing money in a subsequent lab game.
So the next time you get stuck behind some erratically-driving dimwit with an Obama sticker on the bumper of their Volvo who is weaving between lanes and flipping people off while thumbing on their Blackberry, you’ll know what’s going on.
Tags: george will, Leftists
FIrst
First… Now somebody get me some coffee damn it…
re: #1 by Rightside
Dad burn you rightside…
Nobody recognises rights like Obama does.
He believes that it is a mothers right to have an intended abortion completed , even if the abortion is botched & the baby is born alive.
He refused to vote to compel medical delivery for the newborn as an IL. State Senator.
BTW, CJ said that he would have voted the same way!
Interesting study. Good to see some stuff coming out of Canada’s universities. They’re right you know. I never have trusted a greenie hippie ever. Those bastards will stab you in the back faster then you can sneeze.
re: #4 by RIX
Yup, he even recognizes the rights of foreign nationals to be elected President of the United States and Destroy the United States from the inside out…
but I have a right to be first
Morning folks!
This is just a drive by but here is an excerpt from an article by Bruce Thornton about the leftist hypocrisy regarding critism of the Won…
“…Nordlinger recommends the zombietime.com blog for even more graphic visual evidence of the “poisonous political environment” of the Bush years, one that most liberal commentators either ignored or defended as “robust political speech” or humorous exaggeration.”
Read the whole thing:
http://victorhanson.com/articles/thornton101109.html
I think Zombie will be better off without LGF’s, IMHO
re: #6 by doriangrey
Next time I would really like a pro-American President.
Gen Tommy Franks described John Kerry as not having an appropriate allegiance to the U.S.
The same can be failry said of BHO.
re: #7 by mawskrat
Yes you do…. Just not here and not now…
The Left are, without doubt, the most hypocritical segment of our political classes. They criss-cross the world in their private jets while lecturing us on the immorality of driving an SUV. They are eager to mandate all manner of things “green”, while screaming that you can’t legislate morality if you want to not allow hard-core fetish porn to be shown on public television during Saturday morning cartoons. It goes on and on. They consider themselves, and only themselves, to be the enlightened ones, and that that gives them the right to tell the rest of us how to live, what we should eat and drink, and even when and how we should just shut up and die.
re: #3 by doriangrey
Hehe, morning dorian.
The people who actually ‘buy’ the green products think they are better than everyone else and consequently entitled to steal and lie and push others around. LOL
What shallow pretentious losers.
They are buying their entitlement to be rude and dishonest.
I guess if you’re paying $20 a lb. for arugula you’re going to have to take it out on somebody.
re: #12 by Rightside
Morning you grumpy first post claim jumping old coot, where’s my coffee damn it…
re: #12 by Rightside
Oh and did ya check out my latest blog post??? it’s about a thousand words dedicated to, well nothing…
re: #13 by chickadee
My absolute favorite Green moment was when Al Gore was asked about flying around in a private jet. He answered that he purchased carbon offsets.
Yeah, he bought them from some company that he owns, so he actually paid himself, sweet!
re: #9 by RIX
You summed that up perfectly.
I too want a:
A PRO-AMERICA PRESIDENT.
Seriously, is it too much to ask.
re: #16 by RIX
Al Bore is the absolute worst kind of charlatan, conman and snake oil salesman… I would not cry one single tear if he got caught in a blizzard and froze to death…
re: #14 by doriangrey
Coming right up.
Grumpy? I’ve been at work for a couple hours already, had my fill o’ joe!
re: #17 by chickadee
Too much to ask? Absolutely not, too much to actually get… Apparently so…
re: #17 by chickadee
I would think that being pro-American is a minimum requirement that should be demanded by the voters for a President.
The hard core Obama supporters seem to have a different agenda.
re: #16 by RIX
If you look, a lot of the people who are agitating for Cap and Tax are people who stand to make an absolute killing on the carbon market if/when that becomes law. you knpow, if it were going to net me a few hundred million dollars, I might promote the Gorebull Warmist line of propaganda, too.
re: #21 by RIX
Obama is the first post-American President. That is why he won the Nobel Peace Prize. It is just an advance for the damage that he is going to do to America’s standing in the world as the only remaining superpower.
The political left doesn’t acknowledge that a ‘right’ is something that doesn’t impose an obligation on anyone else, other than to allow you to exercise your rights.
The right to free speech, for example, just requires they let you speak, and you let them speak. It doesn’t impose an obligation that either one of you provide a printing press, an auditorium, or a radio/TV station.
The right to the free exercise of religion doesn’t mean someone has to provide a church, mosque or temple, just that they allow them to be built, and allow people to worship in them.
Freedom to travel doesn’t mean you’re owed a car, just that you can go from point ‘A’ to point ‘B’ without permission.
OTOH, ‘rights’ such as the ‘right’ to health care, the ‘right’ to an abortion or the ‘right’ to a house has, far too often, come to mean ‘at someone elses expense’.
Don’t misunderstand, I don’t want to see people on the streets, homeless. There does need to be a safety net for people who are UNABLE to provide for themselves. But we need an environment where as many people as possible are able to provide for themselves, rather than one where as many people as possible are relying on Uncle Sam. Or Uncle Barack.
re: #21 by RIX
Most of Obama’s supporters are only partially to blame, the damned progressive/commie bastards crept in by stealth and took over the American education system and those poor fools were indoctrinated into socialism/communism and they dont even know it.
re: #18 by doriangrey
Gore has made an absolute fortune off of junk science & his ideas threaten to trash what is left of our economy.
He gets away with it because leftists & those that stand to gain economically as well as idiots like Johnson abet it.
re: #25 by doriangrey
Yup, Obama is like the most loony, out of touch professor that you ever had.
On campus it was just an academic exercise, but now those principals guide the President.
re: #26 by RIX
And the idiots like Chuckles the clown abet it because they were taught in our education system a revisionist version of history and Marxist morals and ethics.
I don’t think an ant-American candidate is going to be elected POTUS again anytime soon. There are just too many citizens looking at Zero now and not happy with him fopping around the world, bad mouthing us everywhere and with such enthusiasm to our enemies.
It’s just not right and people know it in their gut.
There won’t be a red carpet rolled out for the next slick commie grifter who hates his own country
re: #29 by chickadee
I don’t know. I think Obama’s going to be a tough one to beat in 2012. He’s got so many people under his spell, just blindly voting for him because of ‘hopenchange’ and because of more handouts to more & more people…
re: #29 by chickadee
I wish I could be sure of that, but considering the damage that the progressive/commie bastards have done to our educational system our country is full of imbeciles who actually think hating their own country is patriotic…
re: #24 by mfhorn
Add on the “Right to Marry who you choose!” I keep saying you do have the right to marry (those of the Opposite Sex!)
lone_wolf_in_illinois
Mon, Oct 12, 2009 5:48:54am replyquote 0downupreport
Charles, you are up early!
………………………………………….. I wonder nancy knows what a lone wolf is and one from illinois at that?
Good Morning Troop !
13 degrees and light snow. A perfect Columbus Day.
OK off to the salt mines, somebody has to pay for the telescopes Obama uses to discover that things out in space are far awat… Dont forget to check out my post about Obama’s Nobel prize for
destroying AmericaNothing…The Pot Belly Dictator has shot off 5 missiles. Does he like to celebrate “Columbus Day?”
re: #13 by chickadee
Yep, and if it weren’t for all the non-organic farmers blanketing the farmlands with their insecticides and fertilizers, thus inadvertently protecting the nearby “organcic” farmers, the smug organic-produce-buying folks would discover the joys of REAL organic produce — i.e., half a worm wiggling in their bite of organic apple, moldly grains (ergot! nature’s LSD), wrinkled, insect-pocket squash, great brown tunnels in their lettuces (lettuce borer), and so forth, and so on.
“Organic” simply means carbon-based. Do they think regular food is made of silicon? (Probably — most greenies’ scientific education ended in eighth grade.)
And a very good morning to you all, too!
re: #33 by mawskrat
Quick… somebody slap Chuckles the Clown in the face with a stinky dead flounder…
re: #31 by doriangrey
Don’t be discouraged. There were so many patriotic citizens at the Sept 12 rally in DC. And the huge crowd had so many older people speaking up. I think it will be our elderly citizens who will make a difference in taking back this country. Also it is really good to see 20 year old conservative activists out there taking on big lefty government programs and exposing them.
Acorn has been wounded severely.
And Zero continues to make an unabashed ass of himself on the world stage.
He is sinking himself.
Obama is busy flushing his chances of a second term down the crapper. The real question is will the Republicans field a candidate who can put him away or will they put up some wuss RINO that sounds like Obama-Lite and lose it.
Plot to bomb US buildings, disrupt World Cup
frakken Muslims……
http://www.iol.co.za/index.php?set_id=1&click_id=15&art_id=vn20091011085002653C456708
http://www.norwichbulletin.com/homepage/x1992012995/Ninja-arrested-by-Vernon-police-accused-of-threatening-senator
Yeeeeeeea.
Watch out for those numchuks, numbskull.
Good Morning!
Happy Columbus Day! (Where school children around the country today are learning that Columbus was mean and bossy and he wasn’t all that special. (you know, because he didn’t know what we do now…)
“Kids Study the Dark Side of Columbus
Jeffrey Kolowith’s kindergarten students read a poem about Christopher Columbus, take a journey to the New World on three paper ships and place the explorer’s picture on a timeline through history.
Kolowith’s students learn about the explorer’s significance — though they also come away with a more nuanced picture of Columbus than the noble discoverer often portrayed in pop culture and legend.
“I talk about the situation where he didn’t even realize where he was,” Kolowith said. “And we talked about how he was very, very mean, very bossy.”"
Dr.Sanity diagnoses:
—The “whole terminology has changed” because the purpose of history is not actually to teach history–silly you! The point of this lesson is to indoctrinate little kids into the dogma of the left. This is their first taste of political correctness, and it won’t be the last.
Soon they will learn that people like Thomas Jefferson and George Washington and the other Founding Fathers have nothing to teach us morally uplifted modern types; that they were evil white males who had slaves; and that they were… racist and otherwise far from perfect. The kids will take away from this that they are not to idealize these men; and that they should take their accomplishments with a grain of salt. Nothing they might have said or written or done about freedom and liberty; no accomplishment–e.g., like establishing the freest nation in history; literally nothing, can make up for the fact that they were flawed human beings and inferior to the intellectuals of today’s political left.—- http://drsanity.blogspot.com/
Pretty much sums it all up for me!
re: #37 by Gypsy Commenter
Now, now. Organic means sacred and holy, sanctified by Mother Gaia Herself. Free of chemicals and Christianity, it is ready for your Solstice celebrations and Feasts in honor of the One. If everyone would get back to organic farming, the lower crop yields would be great. The Third World could get back on track starving the overpopulation to death. We haven’t had a good famine since I was a kid.
The progressives and their ” rights” to everything always forget my 2nd amendment rights
re: #45 by Irish Ho
the IR now has a sooper sekrit chat room
Good Morning and Happy Columbus Day, Netizens!
re: #44 by Iron Fist
By George, you’ve got it! (-prof. Henry Higgins)
re: #44 by Iron Fist
Better that millions die lest Politically Wrong ideas might flourish. Pass the organic arugula.
i took my daughter to target to spend a gift card she received as a gift…..she loves journals….she ended up getting a note book that had a nice fruit design on it…..as we were driving home she was looking at her note book and saw it was “green” recycled from paper products before…..she was disappointed and said “darn, it’s a green note book” i guess she listens to my rants more than i actually knew. ….i told her there is nothing wrong with being green…recycling is good…the problem is when it is your religion… and if the goal was really to be “green” don’t you think “greenies” would make their “green products more affordable? to purchase “green” stuff, you have to be prepared to pay more than you would for a “non green” product. while their may be green purists… the real goal is making money.
i’m not a hard core recycler…i have the two cans green can for garbage, blue for recycle…i do my best until one can is full and over flowing then what ever needs to get tossed goes in whatever can has space……
if my recyclable stuff is so valuable, why do i pay for the recycling guy to pick up my recycling? why is he not paying me?
re: #49 by Number6
organic is so yesterday….it’s now chemical free gardening
re: #43 by Mrs.Robinson
Don’t forget the endless complaint that, under the Constitution, blacks (sorry ‘African Americans’) were only 3/5 of a person. RACISM!
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Republican candidate for Congress, Isaac Hayes has a chat with a Conservative blogger.
http://jumpinginpools.blogspot.com/2009/10/exclusive-interview-with-gop-candidate.html
re: #49 by Number6
Yep – Sometimes in a more paranoid moment I think the whole progressive/environmental/population control/Hellcare nexus is taking the Four Horsemen of the Apocolypse as its model.
re: #50 by phoenixgirl
“if my recyclable stuff is so valuable, why do i pay for the recycling guy to pick up my recycling? why is he not paying me?”
Who dares question the great and powerful Oz ?!!!!!!!!
re: #23 by Iron Fist
I thought Carter was right on the ragged edge of that honor.
re: #52 by mfhorn
Don’t forget the endless complaint that, under the Constitution, blacks (sorry ‘African Americans’) were only 3/5 of a person. RACISM!
One of history’s little ironies here – it was the anti-slavery side that tried to have slaves omitted completely from consideration as far as proportional representation was concerned, while the Southern slave states wanted them counted fully, since doing so would increase the number of Southern representatives in the HoR. The 3/5 Compromise was the result of the Northerners trying to keep the slaves from being counted.
re: #28 by doriangrey
The dude’s almost 60. He doesn’t have that excuse.
re: #57 by tqcincinnatus
and now the libtards want to count the illegal hordes in the census.
strange evolution , eh?
re: #50 by phoenixgirl
Do you remember high school fundraising paper drives? Where you would go from house to house to scavenge old newspapers? There used to be money in recyclables like that. Can’s and bottles even. The nickel or dime back for a bottle of pop. I used to scavenge roadsides and creeks for old bottles to return to convenience stores for candy money. All gone the way of the dodo now.
re: #30 by mfhorn
Which speaks to the psychological study. These are the same people who will recycle toilet paper and then drive to work in a Yukon. In their minds, voting for teh black dude makes them morally superior, and so they’re allowed to dump their cat litter in their neighbor’s yard.
The flush of moral superiority that comes from voting for teh black dude is intoxicating. At least to those who are that dishonest with themselves.
re: #50 by phoenixgirl
To me, going ‘green’ is just about being conscious of not being a slob. Like not throwing a McDonald’s sack of trash out the window of the car. I try to buy quality stuff that won’t land on the garbage heap as fast. I recycle cans and bottles. I respect nature.
But I am not going to be demeaned into using one (1) sheet of toilet paper per visit to the crapper or purchasing ‘carbon credits’ so I can feel good about what a fool I am.
re: #59 by Irish Ho
Plus ca change, plus la meme chose and all that. The liberals need maids and gardeners cheap, so of course they want them to be counted in the census (but also be allowed to vote “under the table” in US elections) as an employment inducement.
re: #28 by doriangrey
I think that jazz guitarists just know stuff, like SCIENCE!
How was our LGF friend “Iceweasel” over the weekend? She is such a “Sweetie”.
Ed
re: #65 by Ed Mahmoud
e’s a fella’, woight?
If Obama has lost the NY Times, he is truly fucked. And he appears to have lost them:
It is a signed Op-ed, not the official Editors of the NYT, but that is still one of the most Obama-friendly tracts of territory in the world. It is the middle of October, and the health care “reform” that he wanted from the Democratically controlled legislature by August has still not made it to the floor of either house. It isn’t dead yet, but, shambling on like a zombie, it isn’t exactly alive either.
This is not good news for the Left. which means it is good news to the Right. A strong Obama was a threat to the Republic. A weak Obama, while still not good (it would be better to have a strong pro-American president), is infinitely preferrable to a strong hard Left turn for this nominally center-right country.
re: #65 by Ed Mahmoud
I thank God every day that I do not wake up next to the WSeasel!
re: #60 by Knightwatch
I remember neighborhood recycling centers, where they actually payed you for everything from paper to motor oil. Now, you have to run all over town trying to find someone who will take the oil. A lot of it has to do with regs – they started requiring the oil to be stored in double-walled tanks.
What’s ironic is that in the days of leaded gas, used motor oil was loaded with lead, and was actually toxic. Now that the lead’s gone, and the oil isn’t toxic with lead anymore, they treat it like it’s radioactive.
You see a lot of that theme in environmentalism, where they’re all running around clucking about a problem that was solved decades ago.
re: #65 by Ed Mahmoud
No idea — I finally did “overfly” Lizardville a few days ago, my curiosity piqued by the comments I’d been reading here the past few weeks, and discovered they were in the middle of some kind of religious rite, involving a beatdown litany on Glenn Beck. The head liz would pronounce the Anathema, and the rest would chime in with the responses/antiphon. It was weird as hell. After a couple of minutes I checked out and went to another blog to clear my head.
re: #68 by RIX
If you went to sleep next to her, you might just not wake up. Nasty piece of work, that one is…
re: #62 by chickadee
Another liberal fail. Look at the pictures of the DC mall after the inauguration compared to the pictures after the tea party. Liberals are pigs. And that’s not being fair to pigs.
re: #72 by snork
excellent point.
They trash cities. they trash homes. they trash parks. they trash everything they touch, all while lecturing YOU on how to live your life.
vermin. all of them
Your rights end when they infringe on another’s rights.
You DO have a right to have access to healthcare, but you don’t have a right to have someone else pay for it. If you have the money to afford the doc, you have the ability to access the doctor’s office.
If there are no doctors in an area that people can afford, what a great place for a charity to move in, or for a few doctors to open up a free or low-cost clinic using volunteer doctors or interning doctors. (Just protect them from malpractice lawsuits as their required malpractice insurance won’t, that costs more than any 2 or 3 of us make in a year, combined)
Having a right to something doesn’t mean you get it on someone else’s dime. Why not? Because you also have a right to your wages….. and so does everyone else.
re: #53 by timbok
From a link inside that story:
Umm… according to the groovy hippie only conservatives are racist.
Nevermind that a former Grand Kleagle of the KKK is a democrat.
Nevermind that the Klansman above who tried to filibuster the civil rights amendment in 1964 is from the democrat party.
Nevermind that Justice Clarence Thomas, a conservative , was pilloried during his senate confirmation hearings, and called among things, an Uncle Tom, by the democrats.
Nevermind that when given a speech in maryland, Michael Steele, was pelted with oreo cookies from, you guessed it: democrats.
Nevermind that ultra-far-left-extremist Jane Hamsher, posted a photoshop of joe lieberman in blackface.
But according to the effeminate california girly man, the right-wing are ALL openly racists.
Inconvenient truth.
re: #71 by Iron Fist
The Weasel is indeed a vile creature.
She is vicious & not nearly as smart as she palms heself off to be.
She is the Queen of the non-sequitor.
If the conversation is about A & she is losing , she answers B & chidishly claims some kind of victory.
re: #62 by chickadee
Morninig!
I agree, the tp nonsense,lol, can you imagine? That being said, we live in the country and being mindful of certain types of conservation becomes second nature. We have a septic system and a well. Pure spring water out of my tap and we are careful with the lawn chemicals to keep it that way. Also, a hi efficiency washer to save stress on the septic. Common sense stuff, NOT bigov mandates.
We also burn our brush piles since no one picks the stuff up.Never hear a complaint from the neighbors cause they do the same.
re: #67 by Iron Fist
I agree. If he had turned it down it would have been a big plus sign (for sanity even) on my score card. (I thought The One could have even accepted the award on behalf of all Americans, our soldiers, and even GW Bush -who freed the nation of Iraq and the world from a tyrant, helped Africa in its fight against AIDS, blah blah..you name it-we are a generous and brave country after all.. but I was dreaming.)
re: #69 by snork
As the great Pistolero, Bill Jordan, said in another context : “It is the perfect solution to a nonexistent problem.”
Push back on the latest “Insurance Reform” rubbish coming our way. They are up to new tricks to get us all on a bigov health care plan.We should all be paying attention to this infringement on our Constitutional rights.
http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2009/10/health_insurance_industry_atta.html
Funny thing, ole Georgie is one of those pro-abortionist.
re: #18 by doriangrey
Hey, Show some respect for the man who saved us from ManBearPig!
re: #72 by snork
“Liberals are pigs”
So true. LOL
re: #78 by Mrs.Robinson
That wouldn’t have fed his ego, and his ego is a notoriously ravenous beast. His whole political carreer has been a long tribute to his wonderful specialousness. His campaign, with it’s vaporous promises of “change”, was just one long glamor photoshoot. Now when it is done and he has the task of actually performing he is at sea, unable to make any headway at least in part because none have dared challenge him before. He has no experience to deal with adversity. He probably can’t understand why everyone isn’t falling all over themselves to do his bidding. After all, he won.
Now let’s see him govern.
re: #77 by vagabond trader
{{VT}} Good morning!
re: #77 by vagabond trader
Hey {vt},
That’s right. Common sense stuff not big gov mandates.
It’s the only way to approach the issue.
Work calls, see ya later.
re: #74 by LanceKates
I think Will does a good job of distinguishing between rights and entitlements in this piece. The rights that our founding fathers were referring to were largely to do with being left alone to persue our own destinies. By left alone, I mean unfettered by outside interferrence by other people or an oppressive government. The rights were never intended to be anything which would impinge on someone elses ability to seek their own life, liberty, and persuit of happiness. Once an entitlement becomes a right, it impinges on another party, in that it requires somebody elses labor to pay for it. The Leftists notion of what constitutes a right is antithetical to every founding document which made this country great.
re: #44 by Iron Fist
Where I live, “organic” means “we get to charge an extra $2.99 for that head of lettuce.”
re: #75 by Rightside
Good post.
The existence of black conservatives provokes liberals like Jane Hamster and the folks at Davy Brock’s DU to vent their repressed racism.
re: #84 by Iron Fist
Actually, if he was smart, he’d have understood that turning the Nobel down would have been a masterstroke, causing the entire world to go orgasmic singing his hallelujahs. The bells would have pealed from heaven, and the stars would have broken out in song.
But no. He does the dumb.
re: #89 by Carolina Girl
I love it, the free market system in action. The word organic is worth $2.99 per head of lettuce. Perhaps you should figure out how to put more letters into that word, you know to make it worth $5.
Irony about “organic”: I live on an island that was downwind of a copper smelter for about 100 years. The level of arsenic in the soil is horrendous. They grow organic crops here.
#89 Carilona Girl
Where I live “Organic” means a clean kill and fresh meat for diner.
re: #80 by vagabond trader
I can’t find an article on it (although I’ve heard it several times on the radio already this morning) on new DHS rules that thwart local authorities in enforcing fed laws.
In other words, they are re-tying the hands of locals to clean their own houses.
re: #92 by Flyovercountry
Organic Free Range Lettuce?
/pay me the big bucks now….
re: #89 by Carolina Girl
and it’s got 10x the e. coli
I wish I had an apple.
Cold and crisp, picked right off a non-organic tree.
A golden delicious or Jonathan red would be nice.
re: #84 by Iron Fist
I am not holding my breath!
I remember my husband reading an article to me; that as a new president, Obama had to go through a bunch of simulations with the military-”war room” stuff…America’s is under attack,pick up the red phone and decide things emergency situations …a military adviser who was there during the simulations, commented on how The One had failed miserably; took too long and could not make a decision at all…had to apologies for his remarks! And the story was buried fast.
Ego = Fear
If you have to protect your ego all the time; you are really afraid of something, or afraid of some one finding out you are not all that perfect.
re: #92 by Flyovercountry
I’m thinking change the “n” to “sm” and sell it for $5 in the sex shops.
Oh, and tm Mark Levin, the next time a moonbat tells you how much we NEED that health care reform NOW, advise them that the fixes don’t start and the program doesn’t take effect until 2013. Why? Because the Donks KNOW that this plan is bound to fail (hence the desire for Republican support) and don’t want it dragging on the ONE when he runs for re-election.
Of course, they can’t see the other problems in front of their faces – cap and trade, national sales tax, all of which will leave more Americans unemployed and even the middle class will be totally broke. Idiots, every last one.
re: #93 by snork
That sound about right in prog-bizarro world logic.
re: #91 by snork
LOL exactly.
Good morning! Yall got me started way too early. lol
The Green scam really burns my ass. Not that I don’t think its a good thing to keep things as clean as possible but as you all mention, the hypocrisy involved is maddening.
You would think the global elite who are pushing this would cancel the Olympics forever! I can’t think of anything else that creates a bigger carbon footprint. I hate this new stupid lingo!
re: #95 by vapig
That wasn’t very clear – but this in regards to illegals. My local folks are furious about this new interference.
rightside
Don’t forget Sen. Albert Gore (D) TN voted against the 1964 Civil Rights Act.
re: #91 by snork
And that greedy. NO WAY he’d give it back once his name was announced. He acted humble, but something tells me his mind was racing with…
“it’s about friggen time you people noticed I AM TEH WON!”
/yes, even just after the initial two weeks.
re: #100 by Carolina Girl
Some of them are worse than idiots. They understand the consequences to our way of life and they want it that way.
And before I go I want to also add along with the others, everyone who has stabbed me in the back and fucked me over in a very big way, have always been the holier-than-thou Lefties.
Not sure what I would classify myself, but its totally not Left.
Well check it out~ Teacake! lol
Welcome to the Blogmocracy~
re: #99 by Mrs.Robinson
That’s not good, but not surprising. It sounds like his first concern is over what people will say and think, rather than saving peoples lives.
He sounds like he’d rather just let people die and pontificate about it rather than make a decision.
re: #105 by BenZacharia
Good point!
re: #59 by Irish Ho
and now the libtards want to count the illegal hordes in the census.
strange evolution , eh?
Yes, amazing eh?
re: #104 by vapig
Maybe those DHS fools would like to live in California, where illegals drive cars having no instruction on California road laws, no insurance and no license, causing major accidents, leaving the car and running away. Maybe they’d also like to see that we have no emergency rooms anymore. A lot of hospitals have closed them because they can’t afford to lose any more money.
Our state is broke, and a large part (not ALL, mind you, a large part) is due to the amount of money we spend on benefits for illegals. Every driver I know carries uninsured motorist protection, which is going up every year thanks to uncovered accidents by illegals.
One last thing before I go. I’ve heard rumors that Mr. and Mrs. Pelosi own a vast amount of medical supply companies. Anyone know if this is true or not? I’ll check back later for any info.
thanks !
111 Rightside
Figured the ‘guilt by association’ thang ought to get some play based on that ‘close association’.
re: #100 by Carolina Girl
If we can elect a Republican House and Senate with some guts for a change (statesmen instead of hopefuls for the “Miss Congeniality” Award) we can, if worse comes to worst, repeal the damn thing in 2010-2011. Of course, the healthcare bill will be “Christmas treed” with everyone’s pet projects, misleadingly labeled as aid to The Poor, and those will be cancelled, too, to much howling and yowling from the special interest groups and organizations who are the real beneficiaries.
These non-heathcare provisions could be reinstated one by one, as house and senate staffers who wrote in the items as guaranteed income for their college classmates frantically lobby the media.
re: #110 by vapig
Yeah it’s all about him- first.
re: #113 by Carolina Girl
“Our state is broke, and a large part (not ALL, mind you, a large part) is due to the amount of money we spend on benefits for illegals. Every driver I know carries uninsured motorist protection, which is going up every year thanks to uncovered accidents by illegals.”
Someone made a good case that what we spend here on illegals in health care and prisons would balance the California budget. I believe it.
Al Gore was pro-gun and anti-abortion.
Then in 1988, he challenged Dukakis for the nomination.
Besides beating Bush 41 by six months in running a “Willie Horton” ad against Dukakis, Gore also had a bizarro world Paul to Damascus conversion, and suddenly became a mainstream anti-gun, pro-abortion Democrat.
That little move could be why he didn’t carry hos home state of Tennessee in 2000 against Bush. If he had, Florida would have been mute, Gore would have been President.
re: #99 by Mrs.Robinson
The part about Obama and simulations sounds a bit apocryphal to me. They usually don’t run these kind of simulations with the real leaders because they do not want to give potential enemies deep insights as to how they might really react. The simulations are more drills to see the effectiveness of theoretical plans and when/where they break down, not what specific leaders would do. Dark Winter is the one that most people are familiar with. It was almost prophetic in its focus coming just a few months before 9-11.
It was a dismal failure, from the perspective of actually handling a disaster on that scale, but it was useful in that we knew better plans had to be made. After 9-11 we had the National Guard patrolling in airports around the country. The goal was not, as it was sometimes portrayed, to stop another hijacking. The idea was to have the troops in place right now to shut them down quickly in response to a biological weapons attack. Containing the spread of the disease was/is critical to keeping a biological attack from becoming truly catestrophic.
I do wonder how the Obama Administration would react to such an attack. That goes beyond the obvious need for quarantines, but into what our response would be to the nation that initiated such an attack. I don’t think Obama has it in him to lead the nation through something like that. Worse, he can’t just be relieved of duty if/when he caves. Biden would be ever so much worse.
Leftards ignore the fact that there is no such thing as a right to the fruits of another’s labor. Because if there is such a “right”, then we have slavery. However, I do know that leftists are notorious power-lusting swine, so it makes sense they want to expand and distort the concept of rights.
As to the self-righteousness of the “green” shoppers, I encounter it quite a bit. You see, I shop in those “natural” places, but not for the reasons these freaks do: mine all have to do with taste and quality, and, in case of cleaning products, with their non-toxicity to my cats.
I do think that we are soon going to see the decline of this in-your-face militant leftism. It appears to have reached the limits of its noxious bubble. Here is hoping sanity will prevail.
re: #119 by Ed Mahmoud
Gore’s move to the Left on gun control is almost certainly what cost him Tennessee in 2000. When the “Assault weapons” ban was passed in 1994, we promptly threw out Jim Sasser, who’d been a senator from Tennessee for something like 20-25 years because of his vote on it. Gun control is not popular here, not even in the western part of the state (which is much more Democrat than the eastern part of the State). The Congressman that holds Harold Ford’s old seat is a strong proponent of the Second Amendment who was instrumental in getting our concealed carry law through the legislature when he was a state senator.
re: #120 by Iron Fist
I hear ya. I wonder if I could dig up that story online somewhere, it was a long time ago…maybe it was a new thing..a 9-11 type drill or something.
You say:
“I don’t think Obama has it in him to lead the nation through something like that. Worse, he can’t just be relieved of duty if/when he caves. Biden would be ever so much worse.”
Yep. Both of them don’t seem capable at all.
I have a right not to be freezing my knuckles off working form home in my sun room/office this morning because, being early October, I haven’t winterized the room yet.
Now I gotta dig the space heater from the garage go buy me some of that plastic window stuff.
Arghhh.
re: #116 by Gypsy Commenter
The problem with that is Obama. No matter what we do in the elections next year, he will still be president for another two years. We won’t be able to repeal anything as long as he has the veto. As a practical matter, we won’t have the strength to overcome a veto no matter what.
That is one of my bigest worries. If next year goes completely to hell for the Democrats, will they come back in a lame duck session and pass a bunch of legislation before the new Congress is in session? I worry about that alot, especially on the gun control front. They will do nothing on gun control until after next years election, but that doesn’t mean they don’t still have nefarious designs for violating our civil rights. They do. No Democrat can be trusted on the gun control issue. Not one of them.
re: #106 by m
{{M}} Good morning!
I trust Wrath will be provide some Jewish religion lessons today, and since the relationship of the Christians to the Jews is much like the raltionship of the Latter Day Saints to the Christians, they believe we got seriously confused and are heretics, but we accept all of their scripture, I shall be looking forward to reading our Judaic theology lesson du jour.
Christian lessons on how to be good.
Luke Chapter 10
BTW, in context, the Jewish priest isn’t just being cold and unfeeling, if the man were dead, touching him would make him ritually unable to perform the Temple sacrifice.
BTW, the Samaritans, as seen elsehwere in the Christian Gospel, were not regarded well by the Jews, a suggestion of the salvation that awaits the Gentiles.
Mark 12- if one listens closely, one can hear an echo of Deuteronomy Chapter 6 ( I bolded it…)
re: #113 by Carolina Girl
Wow! I’m not surprised. In another life I was in insurance (10 years) and uninsured motorist coverage was under $10 a year – mostly because it was the law that everyone carry insurance.
I think progs just want another slave class. One that is ignorant, uneducated, can’t speak the language and will work for nothing.
They lost their slaves once and want to replace them.
re: #125 by Iron Fist
Or, some of them not on the way out will know which way the wind is blowing and NOT vote along party lines in hopes of keeping their seats?
“Nobel for nothing and the chicks are free.”
re: #120 by Iron Fist
Here, this might be it:
“The blogosphere is abuzz today over comments made this weekend by Kentucky Rep. Geoff Davis. As the Lexington Herald-Leader’s blog Pol Watchers pointed out yesterday, Davis “compared Obama and his message for change similar to a ’snake oil salesman.’”
The Republican also used the word “boy” in reference to the Democratic frontrunner.
“I’m going to tell you something: That boy’s finger does not need to be on the button,” he said. “He could not make a decision in that simulation that related to a nuclear threat to this country.”
Davis said he had come to the conclusion after attending a “highly classified, national security simulation” with Obama, whom he considers “unqualified to be president.”
The Obama campaign offered this response, from campaign spokesman Bill Burton:
“It’s hard to tell what is more outrageous – Representative Davis’ condescending and personal attack, or his absurd and offensive claim that Barack Obama is not prepared to defend America,” Burton said. “Geoff Davis may hide behind offensive tough talk, but he has marched in lock-step with Bush-McCain policies that have devastated our national security while Barack Obama has stood up against a misguided war in Iraq and worked with respected Republicans like Dick Lugar and Chuck Hagel to secure loose weapons and nuclear materials from terrorists.”"
http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2008/04/14/politics/horserace/entry4014211.shtml
LOL it was all about the word “boy” and How Bush doctrine “devastated our national security”…talk about BS talk! “misguided war” “stood up to secure loose weapons and nuclear materials from terrorists” LOL hows that working for you now BO?
In other words “don’t pay attention to the man behind the curtain”
re: #125 by Iron Fist
If you remember, Clinton started governing much more from the center, once he lost both houses. If the Zero loses both houses, many of the remaining Dems will leave his fold also. Politicians are not known for their moral courage. Their primary thought is and always be on reelection. There will be a few zealots, but the zealots won’t be able to deliver what he wants. Further, the election year will also be a year of gridlock. These clowns are not going to do anything during 2010 that could harm their chances at getting reelected. This is why you are hearing all of the leftard pacs making the laughable claim that 80% of the American Public wants the public option health care plan. It is more to fool their own side than the American Public. It is also why the Zero is in such a hurry to get his damaging agenda done this year. We are witnessing a very neutered President. I realize that it is still bad, but it could be a lot worse.
re: #127 by Ed Mahmoud
BTW, the Samaritans, as seen elsehwere in the Christian Gospel, were not regarded well by the Jews, a suggestion of the salvation that awaits the Gentiles.
The Jewish leadership in Jesus’ day didn’t do everything right, however. We know that in the 1st century, Gentiles were excluded from everything but the outermost court of the Temple. Yet, I noticed this the other day when reading through II Chronicles,
“Moreover concerning the stranger, which is not of thy people Israel, but is come from a far country for thy great name’s sake, and thy mighty hand, and thy stretched out arm; if they come and pray in this house; Then hear thou from the heavens, [even] from thy dwelling place, and do according to all that the stranger calleth to thee for; that all people of the earth may know thy name, and fear thee, as [doth] thy people Israel, and may know that this house which I have built is called by thy name.” (II Chron. 6:32-33)
This would seem to go right along with the things we see in Exodus whereby strangers in the land were subject to, and also benefited from, the same laws as the Jewish people did.
Maybe Gentiles should have been allowed to worship in the same parts of the Temple as the Jews were?
re: #75 by Rightside
In order to be a ‘real’ ‘person of color’, you have to toe the Democratic Party line. Anyone who strays from the belief in government playing mommy/daddy to you, any belief in personal responsibility, any belief in rewarding success, and in allowing people to lift themselves out of poverty instead of being mired in it is RACIST!
re: #129 by Centaur
That is one question. But most of the Democrats are in safe seats. Nancy Pelosie isn’t going to lose her seat, no matter how badly things go for the Democrats next year. There are a lot of other Democrats in the same situation. These people aren’t the absolute majority, though.
I think that next year is going to be a bloodbath for the 2006-2008 Blue Dog Democrats in the House. Once they know they’ve lost their seat, I worry about how they will vote. I’d prefer that they recess in August for the campaign season and then don’t come back until the new Congress is sworn in, but I don’t expect that it will happen that way.
ahhhh, yes. lunch time!
hi all.
I’d like to see a political alliance between Christians and Jews to defend against the coming Islamicist War Against Civilization. A good start would be for Christians to let it be known that Anti-semitism will be strongly opposed wherever and whenever it pops up its ugly head.
re: #122 by Iron Fist
Speaking of “gun control,” that RINO bastard Arnold Schwarzenegger has signed the bill last night that requires anyone purchasing handgun ammunition in California be fingerprinted, and forbids mail order sales of ammunition to California.
re: #138 by Carolina Girl
Damn, I am glad I moved to Arizona!
re: #133 by tqcincinnatus
This points to the basic questions of free will. The gentiles weren’t purposly excluded, so much as they made the conscious decision to not respect the sanctimony of the ark. That is to say, they decided to be gentiles. As jews, we do not prosletize. If someone wishes to become Jewish, they can decide this on their own. When the ark holding a Torah is opened, that room is considered holy ground, and respect is shown for those who wish to pray. During the first century, the gentiles had problems with showing that respect, hence, they were not allowed into these rooms. Think about your church, would you want a bunch of hooligans laughing and whooping it up on Sunday Mornings, while you were in prayer. So people were allowed in the Temples, but not in those rooms where there were people trying to meditate and pray. Judaism is not some exclusive club where we don’t allow outsiders, but rather a faith that does not wish to force our beliefs on others. We respect other people’s free will to chose their own path.
re: #131 by Mrs.Robinson
That’s interesting. I had not seen anything about that. It’d be nice to know if the Representative was speaking fact or conjecture (or, less politely, if he was talking out of his ass). I only know of things third-hand, but my understanding of such drills were that the principle leadership did not take part in them. It isn’t good that our enemies may have an insight into the weakness of our leadership. If it came to it, I don’t think Obama has the stones to order a nuclear strike no matter what the provocation, but I’d rather that our enemies didn’t have confirmation of that.
re: #138 by Carolina Girl
which is why i love my local PA gun laws…
on the spot shall issue ccw permit, and buying ammo is as easy as buying a loaf of bread.
our state government trusts its citizens to do the right thing.
now if we could just do something about the roads…
re: #138 by Carolina Girl
Unbelievable. Fortunately I have plenty on hand and I can always go to Nevada to resupply.
re: #140 by Flyovercountry
you will find the same attitude in orthodox christianity as well.
re: #138 by Carolina Girl
and i am sure that the ms-13 and other gangs will abide by these laws. and then everyone will be safer!
/s
re: #138 by Carolina Girl
That is interesting, especially since the 9th circuit found that the Second Amendment applies to the State this spring. What part of “Shall not be infringed” is he having trouble with?
Schwartzennegger has been quite the disappointment, hasn’t he? RINO in the extreme.
The people of the nations who lived among or came to live among the Jews, who subjected themselves to the Jewish law, including the circumcision, became themselves Jewish.
Think of Joshua and the story of Rahab, who aided the Jewish spies. Her life was spared, and she and her family lived with the Jews. It is almost a certainty they adopted the religion, and intermarried, and so while her and her families descendants are of the 12 tribes, she certainly wasn’t.
re: #146 by Iron Fist
i’d take ahnold over gerry brown tho.
re: #146 by Iron Fist
I think the Kennedy’s have ruined Schwartzennegger. I don’t know why he just doesn’t go ahead and declare himself a Democrat. He whole heartedly buys into the global warming nonsense, calls business executives greedy, and is blatantly trying to establish California as a haven for illegal aliens. He is worse than a Rino, he is an absolute disgrace.
We Christians are supposed to evangelize, but if you look at the Jews who do convert, whether following marriage to a Gentile or through conversion, there are few, if any, religiously observant Jews that are lost in that way.
It is a waste to prostelytize someone firm in his or her faith.
I’m not Jewish, and I have read Jewish folks who worry about the loss of American Jews, mainly to mixed marriage, but I’d suppose almost all of them were Reform and not really religious.
One positive sign of mixed-marriage, it is a strong suggestion that old fashioned antisemitism is pretty rare in this country.
Looks at it this way, if Nancy Pelosi or John Kerry or Sebelius renounced their Catholic faith due to church teaching on gay marriage and abortion, I wouldn’t feel like the Catholic church had been diminished at all.
re: #147 by Ed Mahmoud
That is exactly correct. It was their choice to follow the path. That is why the story of Naomi is so important. Naomi was the first convert. It is also important in that it shows that all Naomi had to do, was to choose to live as a Jew. She followed the teachings of the Torah, and strived to perform the 613 Mitzvoht.
What is all this then?
re: #141 by Iron Fist
It is interesting. Looks like it was a simulation run when Obama was a Senator/Candidate and not president yet.
Found this information about Rep Davis:
Congressman Davis attended the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, N.Y., where he studied national security and international affairs. Upon graduation, he served as an Assault Helicopter Flight Commander in the 82nd Airborne Division and later ran U.S. Army aviation operations for peace enforcement between Israel and Egypt. Congressman Davis is a former Army Ranger and Senior Parachutist.
I personally would take his word on it!
re: #37 by Gypsy Commenter
I always tell people that I much prefer organic food over inorganic food.
Inorganic food, like rock potatoes, breaks my teeth…..
re: #150 by Ed Mahmoud
Exactly. They’re already lost to the temple of moonbattery.
And you’re right, I’ve seen a lot of examples where it works the other way; where the mixed marriage results in a conversion to Judaism. And this is based on thin anecdotal evidence, but from what I’ve seen, the conversions seem to survive divorce.
Regular food is fertilized using scientifically based formulations.
Organic food is fertilized by shit. Some from cows. some from the farm workers.
Let’s see : lettuce that’s cheaper and not coated with some guy’s crap = win=win
re: #154 by LGoPs
Paper and scissors aren’t all that appetizing, either. But at least paper is organic.
re: #126 by vapig
Good morning to you, {Sunshine}! Haven’t been able to catch you on lately~ miss you lady!
re: #153 by Mrs.Robinson
Cool, thanks. That makes a lot more sense. As far as Obama goes, we just have to hope he isn’t tested the way Bush was. Bush had the second most difficult first term in US History. Abe Lincoln’s was a little harrier, but not much. Johnny Reb didn’t have weaponized anthrax in his arsenal, or the whole ’splodeydope thing going on.
Obama isn’t up to the job as is. Making it worse wouldn’t make it any better, if you follow my meaning.
The “what happened to Global warming” article referenced HERE over the weekend finally made it to drudge.
I’m just now rereading it and imagining selkcuhC head exploding
(((Maybe Gentiles should have been allowed to worship in the same parts of the Temple as the Jews were?)))
Back in that day the gentiles were idol worshipers. I think that would have been a problem. lol
re: #160 by Irish Ho
He’s just going to run over the realclimate, and Gavin’s going to tell him that everything’s going to hell in a handbasket, and don’t lose faith.
It would be a major crisis if Armageddon were called off.
at one point does it get cold enough for the Global warming alarmist morons to STFU?
I haven’t done any scientific studies but it seems from my observations that most liberals are narcissists. The worst of them are malignant narcissists, as Tammy Bruce has so well described them.
Narcissists are the bane of society and I wish there was a way to identify the root causes in order to stamp it out.
In personal relationships they will cause you to go crazy. I know. I was married to one long ago and literally started questioning my own sanity. I finally learned that the only way to deal with them is to not deal with them. Most professionals will tell you to run for your life. Literally.
In a political sense they cause a similar craziness but far worse because they create an environment where it is impossible to have a civil discussion with them. I think we have reached that point in this country. The danger is that they don’t seem to realize that when they shut down debate and reasonable discussion, the other side doesn’t just quietly go away. It seethes and boils.
The left shuts down debate at its own peril.
re: #156 by Irish Ho
Until the 20th century there was absolutely no tradition of eating uncooked greens in the far east, especially China, because of the tradition of fertilising food with human waste, which contains all sorts of nasties that need heat to destroy them. In the west we used cow and horse manure, which is safe as long as you wash the food thoroughly before eating it. Modern greenies don’t seem to understand the distinction.
Man has microphone cut off for daring to question The Goracle.
Sounds like somebody else who bans people for disagreement.
http://host.madison.com/wsj/news/local/article_dacf39c7-c2f8-5718-a5a0-d0cfb39f80bc.html
re: #163 by Irish Ho
What has been absolutely hillarious has been the fact that 3 of their last 4 world conferences scheduled during the late fall or winters have had to be canceled due to inclement weather. The fourth did not, because they held it in a tropical resort, in Bali.
re: #164 by LGoPs
I think I ran across this term at the Puppyblender’s but I’ve seen it in a number of places: Cold Civil War. I think that sums up where we are perfectly. There isn’t open warfare between the sides, but a cold hostility that really has become unbridgable. If we were divided up regionally, we could simply split and be done, but we aren’t divided that way. It is more the large urban areas against the rest of the country. I don’t know what the solution is, if there can even be a solution.
We can’t trust them, that is for sure. They have shown us time and again that any compromise will be seen as a weakness to be exploited. If bridging the gap is impossible, the only option is containment. Keep them out of power as best we can, and try and curtail the worst abuses if they manage to get power. Basically what we are doing now.
Oh, and stockpile arms and ammunition. We are, after all, the side that doesn’t believe in gun control. They might should ought to remember that.
re: #163 by Irish Ho
No.
Did anyone catch Steve Wynn on Fox yesterday? Rush is playing soundbites today. He was fantastic. I’m not too keen on the fact that he made his fortune in the gambling industry, which is little better than confiscatory taxes by the government, but man did he make a lot of sense. And he was cool and calm while obliterating the arguments of the Dems on the panel. When you’re speaking the truth there’s no need to raise your voice.
re: #164 by LGoPs
I agree with your conclusions L. Most of the people I know on the Left are very narcissistic indeed. They tend to believe they are entitled to things that are just none of their business. A group of these sort of people, ex neighbors, all on the left and proud of it, very self-righteous individuals, who bullied me relentlessly for a few years, (40s and 50s!) All hated Bush, think religion is a joke, think they are better than most people, and all meddled in my life in a way that I’ve never known was possible. All Lefties, all narcissists. My life was pretty much destroyed by this bunch. To heal and recover from these so-called peace lovers, I fear is not even possible.
re: #170 by KGB
Awesome!
I like how he schooled that dimwit granholm
Oh yeah, as long as that topic was brought up. This push for the military to drop the don’t ask don’t tell policy…. totally narcissistic. This group is demanding the military conform to their wishes. How many gay people really even care about the military let alone want to serve the country. This group pisses me off. They don’t want to serve the country, they demand the country bows to their demands.
Even Jung saw narcissism was a problem for society over 100 years ago.
re: #143 by Number6
That’s exactly what we’re going to do – drive the three hours to Cabella’s in Reno. I believe the law states nothing about bringing in ammunition already purchased into California.
Arnie and the Donks believe this will limit the amount of ammunition that the criminals and the gang bangers can get. Because you know, they ALWAYS follow the letter of the law.
The thing is, the prohibition against internet sales may violate the U.S. Code In 2008, the Supreme Court ruled 9-0 that a Maine statute that placed limitations on the delivery of cigarettes was preempted by the FAAAA. That statute is very similar to the restrictions on delivery found in AB-962 .
re: #140 by Flyovercountry
Judaism is not some exclusive club where we don’t allow outsiders, but rather a faith that does not wish to force our beliefs on others. We respect other people’s free will to chose their own path.
I recongise that, but I almost think that, per the Hebrew scriptures, the Jewish people should have been proselytory – that was G-d’s purpose for them, to be a witness of His glory to all nations of the world. Isaiah is very clear that the Messianic promises weren’t just to Israel, but to all nations. Israel was G-d’s witness – which seems to imply a necessary missionary role, sort of like Jonah’s to Ninevah.
The Law says that it was to be a testimony to the nations,
“Behold, I have taught you statutes and judgments, even as the LORD my God commanded me, that ye should do so in the land whither ye go to possess it. Keep therefore and do them; for this is your wisdom and your understanding in the sight of the nations, which shall hear all these statutes, and say, Surely this great nation is a wise and understanding people. For what nation is there so great, who hath God so nigh unto them, as the LORD our God is in all things that we call upon him for? And what nation is there so great, that hath statutes and judgments so righteous as all this law, which I set before you this day?” (Deuteronomy 4:5-8)
This would seem to be affirmed elsewhere,
“The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.” (Psalm 19:7)
For who is more simple than the Gentiles who do not know G-d, still lost in the worship of false gods? This would seem to be the intent behind the programmatic repetition of the phrase “ark of the testimony” which housed the tablets of the Law from Moses.
Other passages in the Hebrew scriptures seem to affirm a more general “missionary impulse” that G-d was trying to inculcate into His people, as well,
“Declare his glory among the heathen; his marvellous works among all nations.” (I Chronicles 16:24)
“And I will set a sign among them, and I will send those that escape of them unto the nations, to Tarshish, Pul, and Lud, that draw the bow, to Tubal, and Javan, to the isles afar off, that have not heard my fame, neither have seen my glory; and they shall declare my glory among the Gentiles.” (Isaiah 66:19)
“If thou wilt return, O Israel, saith the LORD, return unto me: and if thou wilt put away thine abominations out of my sight, then shalt thou not remove. And thou shalt swear, The LORD liveth, in truth, in judgment, and in righteousness; and the nations shall bless themselves in him, and in him shall they glory.” (Jeremiah 4:1-2)
I think that the attitude towards prosyletism that you describe arises from an internalisation way back on the part of the Jewish people of the “lifestyle evangelism” that many professing Christians have today to.
re: #173 by teacake
I think that narcissism is demonstrably anti-social and destructive to any society it infects.
While it may be personally wonderful to be smug and self righteous and to have a feeling of being the center of the universe in having exclusive rights to truth and justice, it all breaks down once one goes out in public, only to be met by inumerable other centers of the universe.
It makes for a lot of posturing and jostling and selfish behavior and just makes life nasty and unpleasant.
From the get go carbon credits are indulgences obtainable from the envirowacko’s modern religion.
re: #175 by tqcincinnatus
It’s going to take me a while to research things to answer you sufficiently. I will just say that there are several differences between the Hebrew edition of the Old Testament, and the King James translation of it. I am not all that familiar with the King James edition. That being said, the chosen people thing is the one concept my Christian Friends have the most trouble understanding. For the most part, G-d chose the Jews because the Jewish people were to pathetic to survive on their own. He chose the Jewish people to give the rules of good living to, not because they were better than the other races, who were also the Lord’s creations, but because they quite literally needed these rules to merely survive. As Lewis Black so crudely, but aptly put it, “we were one hair shy of being babboons.” The choice as to whether these rules for living are followed, is still up to each individual. Two things have happened since the Jews found Israel. One, is that our numbers have remained relatively stable. For whatever reason, there has always been the same number of Jews in the world. Our population has not exploded like other races, nor have attempts to eradicate us succeeded. Two, those societies who have tried to systematically eradicate their Jewish members have suffered terrible fates. I will go back to my Old Testament Materials to look at those passages you have suggested to me, and I will see if I am able to answer you querries.
re: #178 by Flyovercountry
Oh, don’t worry, I’m not trying to start some formal debate or anything.
The KJV translation of the Hebrew scriptures was prepared from the Bomberg edition from 1525 of the Masoretic text transmitted by Jacob ben Chayyim. How this relates to modern Jewish translations, I’m not certain.
Yes, G-d does tell the Hebrew people that He chose them because they were the least among the nations – but His intention and purpose for them was to raise them up as a testimony to His glory and power! There is an exact analogue to this in the Greek scriptures where Paul writes,
“For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called: But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are: That no flesh should glory in his presence.” (I Corinthians 1:26-29)
G-d’s purposes are to glorify Himself, and He does this through using those who, in the world’s eyes, are not the rich, powerful, and mighty. Blessed be the name of the G-d of Israel!
re: #178 by Flyovercountry
Two things have happened since the Jews found Israel. One, is that our numbers have remained relatively stable. For whatever reason, there has always been the same number of Jews in the world. Our population has not exploded like other races, nor have attempts to eradicate us succeeded. Two, those societies who have tried to systematically eradicate their Jewish members have suffered terrible fates.
Exactly, I totally agree. G-d has protected the Jewish people, and will continue to do so, and He blesses those who bless these descendants of Abraham, and curses those who curse them. That right there ought to serve as a reason for “Christians” to reject anti-Semitism outright, even apart from all the other reasons to do so.
This is why, ultimately, I’m not worried about Ahmedinnerjacket. Obviously, I oppose him, but he, nor any of these other Muslim whackjobs, will succeed in their genocidal ambitions towards Israel.