Despite the propaganda the Progressive Media, the economy is a mess. Although Wall Street has rallied, the Average American is not doing well. Unemployment is high and our wages are stagnant. Instead of making America competitive in the Global economy, Our Community Organizer in Chief, Barack Hussein Obama has done the opposite. He has borrowed money and is planning to raise taxes. What he should have been doing is reducing taxes and making America attractive to investors.
Unemployment continues to tick upward. Small businesses forgo profits on two-for-one deals just to keep the doors open.
But we’re in recovery. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, the guy who couldn’t get around to paying his own taxes, says so. After all, government is doing all it can to speed the recovery, isn’t it?
nemployment continues to tick upward. Small businesses forgo profits on two-for-one deals just to keep the doors open.
But we’re in recovery. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner, the guy who couldn’t get around to paying his own taxes, says so. After all, government is doing all it can to speed the recovery, isn’t it?
Read the rest.
We are in a competitive Global economy and we must make ourselves attractive to investment capital. Increasing our debt is not the way to do this.
Tags: American Economy
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I’ve heard it described more or less as a “jobless” recovery – the stock market has made some pretty good gains, that’s certain, but for how long? If cap and trade passes, I expect it to take a serious dive. Not to mention the second wave of foreclosures, etc. being predicted.
Greenspan was saying today that employment will go to double digits soon and stay there a long time.
It will also be interesting to me, should that abominable bill called “cap and trade” pass, what’s going to happen to all those global warming proponents when they’re making the very real decision of heating their home and eating dinner. Or driving somewhere, since it’s been predicted that gasoline will at least double the current price.
re: #2 by Carolina Girl
This will be a double dip recession and the amount of Debt we have accumulated is making it worse.
re: #1 by savage
Last!!!!!!!1
What’s up my man?
What we are paying for (and will be paying for for some time) are the many failures of the Progressive State that Obama and his ilk would bring into being. The bullshit “community re-investment” requirements forced banks to loan to people who were not qualified, who would not be able to pay for their mortgages in the long term (and, yes, the mortgage companies have their share of the blame. They didn’t object to the profits this brought in over the short term. They didn’t care that people were taking out 50 year mortgages or even interest only mortgages). We have the massive entitlement programs Social Security, medicare, perscription drugs for the elderly (thank Bush for that. I paid taxes so Ted Kennedy could have his cancer meds paid for by Medicare because he was old. How’s that for redistribution of wealth?). All of these are going bankrupt while the Congress pays off their cronies with “stimulus” money taken, again, out of my taxes.
That simply can’t go on forever. But no one is going to have the balls to say that until the hole is so incredibly deep it breaks the back of the country. That will almost undoubtably happen in my lifetime, unless I croak due to health issues or someone with the means and desire (and a bit of luck) to whack me comes along.
Stock market has recovered some, but I certainly wouldn’t refer to it as having “rallied”.
The real answer to all of this is to do exactly the opposite of what has been done.
a) Cut taxes, if you are going to increase the debt, do it in a manner that puts real money in real peoples’ pockets
b) Start through the Federal Register and start finding rules and regulations that are stifling the economy and repeal them
c) Restore faith in the financial system by letting (requiring) banks to properly vet people applying for loans
re: #2 by Carolina Girl
Yes those gains are mostly on speculation, reacting to MSM news. CEO’s are selling 37 to 1 now.
re: #2 by Carolina Girl
Something I’ve heard whispered about is a coming collapse in commercial realestate. There is certainly a lot of vacancies around here, especially of real high-end commercial property. Empty stores in the mall, empty strip malls, grocery store buildings and the like are common here. We lost one major retailer, Goodys. They’d been around like 50 years, and they just folded up and went away taking all kinds of jobs (from retail clerks to software engineers and other professional positions) with them.
Our housing market still sucks around here. I’ve had my house on the market for a couple of months and haven’t gotten even one offer. That, in turn, means I’m pinched until it sells. When It sells, though, I’ll be in a pretty good position. Hopefully it is just a matter of time.
And Cap and Tax is going to fuck everyone across the board. If that passes, I guess my motorcycle becomes my main transportation. She gets 30-40 miles a gallon. That’ll get me back and forth to work, but it is kind of hard to go grocery shopping on a Harley, even if you do have saddlebags on it.
I’m not surprised that The Won is following the game plan to extend our recession and bring the U.S. economy to its knees – it all plays into his hatred and disdain for capitalism; the dangerous flip-side to Obama is his narcissism and love of power.
It’s hard to believe this suit ever got elected.
BEFORE THE ELECTION HE SHOWED HIS HAND!
EF’N SHEEPLE!
http://www.taxfoundation.org/blog/show/23137.html
GIBSON: And in each instance, when the rate dropped, revenues from the tax increased; the government took in more money. And in the 1980s, when the tax was increased to 28 percent, the revenues went down.
So why raise it at all, especially given the fact that 100 million people in this country own stock and would be affected?
OBAMA: Well, Charlie, what I’ve said is that I would look at raising the capital gains tax for purposes of fairness.
re: #7 by AZfederalist
And taxes go up across the board next year. There is no way the Democrats are going to extend the Bush tax cuts. So Obama wasn’t technically lying when he said he wouldn’t raise taxes on the middle class. This is a sin of ommission, not comission. He’s going to sit back an let the tax cuts expire in a manner similar to how the Republicans and Bush handled the so-called “Assault Weapons” ban. Thank God that piece fo shit legislation is on the ash heap of history.
Damn, I killed it…
re: #11 by IslandLibertarian
Hey I had a drinking thread that I mentioned You!
http://www.littlegreenfootballs2.com/2009/10/02/friday-night-overnight-drinking-thread/
I drank an Indonesian Beer, Bali Hai. It’s great stuff. I figured you knew it since you have friends there.
re: #13 by Iron Fist
I nailed Irish Rose and her support of Che.
http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=494#comment-66664
Look at the pic I linked to.
I don’t get the gist of a “jobless recovery”.
I think it’s bull shit.
There is no recovery until people start making a living.
And fewer and fewer people are doing that everyday.
re: #16 by chickadee
I agree 100%. There is no recovery.
re: #15 by Rodan
Heh™ I know a guy who knows a guy that was in the team that whacked Che. A real humanitarian. Taking Che down was a true humanitarian act.
re: #18 by Iron Fist
The bar I go to, the Owner is a Bay of Pigs Vet. He’s an Old man and everyone gives him respect.
I hate Che.
re: #15 by Rodan
Reading that, it’s pretty clear Zombie is going to be a target at 1.0. Especially since Wormtongue whispered to the king that Zombie is committing treason.
re: #20 by Mars
Yeah It shows Irish rose’s true colors. She’s supporting Che Guevara.
But IR is a puppet, Charles is sending her to pick a fight with Zombie. This is a set up.
re: #15 by Rodan
Thanks for the link to Zombietime. I can’t believe they’re now going to Zombie’s site to hassle him/her.
re: #21 by Rodan
That was kinda my thought to. I have been thinking about this for a while.
re: #23 by Mars
Yup, she’s one of his agents like Killgore was. Her goal is to give Charles a pre-Text to out Zombie.
re: #14 by Rodan
There was a sweet cheap wine we used to drink called Bali Hai about 40 years ago.
re: #25 by mjazz
Is that made by Infidels?
re: #24 by Rodan
IrishRose needs to be defanged
re: #27 by savage
Problem, she has no teeth anyway!
re: #26 by Macker
Of course
Here’s a related post about the myth of the Keynesian multiplier at the WSJ:
Most of the thinking that goes into U.S. economic policy involves neo-Keynesian theories that have been proven wrong time and time again.
For a very readable and short book that exposes many Keynesian fallacies, I recommend “Economics in One Lesson” by Henry Hazlitt.
It can be read online here.
re: #26 by Macker
Sorta like Ripple. *puke*
re: #28 by Rodan
oops, she still has one tooth!
WOW look at this comment on Zombie’s Blog!
149Anonymous on Oct 4, 2009 at 2:17 pm:
sayanara zombie
you wont be missed
youve had it coming for months now ever since your holdren melt down
then you showed your “loyalty” to lgf when you sided with the climate deniers in a thread and went against charles
see ya wouldn’t wanta be ya
“Jobless recovery” is the MSM thinking that they’re clever. No, it’s not a recovery, if the only indicator that’s up is stock prices. And the stock rally isn’t going to stick.
In addition to all of the bad macroeconomic/structural issues, there’s also a question of expectations. Who in their right mind is going to invest with this much uncertainty?
And that’s not even taking into account that the housing bubble isn’t fully deflated yet, and the commercial real estate bubble burst doesn’t even have its socks on yet.
And that shiite is going to hit the fan if everything goes well. If the Chinese and/or Japanese stop buying our treasury junk, then it could get serious.
re: #33 by Rodan
That, sir, is what’s called an asshat.
re: #33 by Rodan
That’s just plain f***ed up.
Now that I would consider stalking-especially if Zombie is a chick- creepy anonymous threats?
re: #35 by snork
Charles is looking for a pretext to expose Zombie. He sent Irish rose to instigate.
re: #33 by Rodan
I smell the icebitch!
re: #33 by Rodan
I hope Zombie realizes who is truly over here, and doesn’t believe all the 1.0 propaganda.
re: #38 by FishOrCutBait
Yeah.
Because the escrow part of my mortgage went up, I owe about 60 more a month. And my escrow shortage is about 570 bucks. So this is money that isn’t going into the economy because Barney Frank and his buddies screwed up? Banking has been around for centuries, you don’t have to be an intellectual giant to figger that you don’t give mortgages to people
WITHOUT VERIFYING THEIR INCOME!
re: #40 by snork
Or is it assweasle?
Charles, you actually condone this behavior against zombie? You’re a lot more fucked up than I thought.
re: #42 by FishOrCutBait
Asswhistle.
re: #41 by mjazz
Look at you! It is because of people like you that Michelle Obama says “America is a downright mean” nation. Just because they can’t pay for it is no reason for prople not to buy a house. Once they’ve bought the house they can’t aford, they’ll go deeper in debt to furnish the house with furniture and nick nacks that they can’t afford. What could go wrong with that?
(Consumer credit has to be nearing a breaking point. Everyone is getting tapped out on their credit cards. What, I wonder, happens to the bank when lots of those people default on all those unsecured loans?)
re: #43 by snork
Thought so. She can’t whistle for shit!
I was just looking over the comments @ Zombie, and I don’t see cause of the hissyfit. I think IR is just trying to stir up shinola (’cause she can’t remember what she’s supposed to be stirring up). Unfortunately, Johnson is enough of a douchenozzle to fall for it.
You’re totally welcome here, Zombie, in fact we’d love to have you. We’d be honored to have you. We’d be humbled to have you.
re: #44 by Iron Fist
I’d say depression, not recession.
Any thing, any way goes to screwing with Zombie
is going to have some real splaning to do.
capesh?
Great comment over there at the zomblog…
175PantyShields on Oct 4, 2009 at 7:25 pm:
Irish Rose, why don’t you share with everyone your favorite incontinence protecting panty shield brand? You’re certainly getting your piss stained knickers in a twist these days.
re: #48 by taxfreekiller
Charles wants an excuse to out Zombie and make himself a hero to Progressives.
re: #48 by taxfreekiller
Have you taken a look over there? This is the mother of all pile-ons:
http://www.zombietime.com/zomblog/?p=494
Zombie has a lot of friends. Douchewhistle, not so many.
re: #49 by savage
Irish Rose is probably crying over the picture I posted of her hero: Che Guevara.
GGGGGGGGGGGGGrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
re: #50 by Rodan
If he outs zombie, I might just out him.
This is all out war, folks
I just wasted a bunch of time responding to some comments left for me on the “caption this picture” thread.
I’m on the edge of losing all will to discuss anything political ever again.
I’m pretty sure I’m a conservative. But as the definition of a conservative gets tighter and tighter, I may have to abandon thoughts about politics altogether.
Is there a chance we learned a lot of bad lessons at lgf and now maybe we have to unlearn them?
For example. I believe the federal government should be about 1/30 its current size. I believe abortion should only be legal when it saves a mothers life. I believe the IRS should be abolished. I believe the US military should be about three times its current size. I believe that 1 illegal alien in the US is 2 to many. I believe judges should judge cases based on the law, not make the law.
But, I’m an atheist. AND I am very offended by racism. So do either of those two things prevent me from being in the conservative “club”?
re: #50 by Rodan
As I said on the other thread, I’m 99+% sure that (s)he didn’t reveal his/her identity to Johnson. I’d be very, very surprised if that happened.
The historian Alan Brinkley is hardly a conservative or libertarian. I just finished reading his book “The End of Reform.” In it he says not once, but twice, that the Great Depression was ended by World War II and not the New Deal.
Right now it’s 1930 all over again. A massive bubble created by government policies (most especially The Fed) has burst. Secretary of the treasury’s Andrew Mellon’s advice (in 1929) was to let prices, wages and interest rates fall to their natural level in order to “purge the rottenness out of the system.” Instead both Hoover and Roosevelt thought they could fix the problem with massive government intervention. We know how that worked out. Both the Dems and Repubs. (mostly RINOS anyways) are as clueless as FDR and Hoover. They have bellied up to the bar guzzling the Keynesian Kool-aid.
Recovery? Who is the media trying to fool with that crap? There is no stinking recovery. The country is going to be sitting at double digit unemployment until the sheeple elect people with a clue. And that’s not even mentioning the inflation S**tStorm heading are way.
re: #55 by justdanny
I just wasted a bunch of time responding to some comments left for me on the “caption this picture” thread.
That’s still going?
re: #55 by justdanny
Not really.You’re pretty close to whatever I am. I’m mostly agnostic, I feel racism is wrong, but also overused. If racism is acknowledged it needs to be acknowledged for everyone, not just white males.
re: #55 by justdanny
No.
re: #55 by justdanny
What are you talking about and what happened? I haven’t been around this weekend, so tell me what are you talking about?
re: #55 by justdanny
Nope.
I haven’t looked at the “caption” thread, though.
Before I do, I’d like to say that I have no problem making fun of someone engaging in identity politics or identifying themselves as a “victim” simply because of their race.
I’m “post-racial” that way.
re: #55 by justdanny
Dude. #1, stop being such a drama queen. #2, the issue isn’t being offended by racism. It’s the definition of racism. Until that word means the same thing to everybody, there’s no use trying to use it in a discussion.
If you’re just going to run around tooting your own horn about how everybody else is a racist, and you’re not, you belong over at that other place. I really have no patience for moral vanity; particularly when it carries with it an implied accusation that’s neither fair nor correct.
You’re reminding me of a certain guitar-playing pony-tailed hippy who runs around calling himself a conservative, but feels some need to paint everyone else in sight as racist if they don’t polish his knob and sing his hallelujahs.
re: #55 by justdanny
Who here is Racist? Call them out so we know who you are talking about.
Irish rose admits to being a Drug Addict!
117 Irish Rose Sun, Oct 4, 2009 6:04:27pm replyquote
* 4
* down
* up
* report
I’m in a lot of pain tonight lizards, and feeling way too cranky to participate.
Time for painkillers and bed… see ya on the morning DT.
So, do you think they’re attacking Zombie at his/her own site to drive her/him permanently away from LGF? Considering some of the best journalism in the USA in the past five to seven years came from Zombie and LGF reaped the benefits of it, that would be a stupid thing to do.
Im out
Goodnight all
Savage or Rodan,
M and Vagabond Trader and I were talking earlier about possibly make a post out of Gates of Vienna’s brutal smackdown of CJ. Anyway, if you’re interested Baron Bodissey gives his permission to post away.
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2009/10/becoming-msm.html#c236936256671369220
in 1921, we had a recession that hit harder than the great depression.
We don’t hear about it. The government did nothing and it was resolved within a year.
In 1929 we had the ‘crash’ that led to a recession that lasted until world war 2.
The difference? The second (and less severe) crash was met with ‘help’ from the federal government.
Want things to get better? Boot out the federal government.
re: #64 by Rodan
Check out the comments at the beginning of the Caption This Picture thread.
charles deleted zombie, well w lover is celebrating for sure, she’s been working on getting rid of zombie for that last couple of months……..now it is confirmed….charles is no longer in charge of his blog, he is letting irish rose and the poster formerly known as w lover run it for him. what ever happened to this is my blog? i’ll run it the way i want to? ha! he’s letting the women run it for him! what a pussy!
re: #47 by mjazz
Yeah, that’s where I see us headed, but I am not an economist. Money has to come from somewhere to pay our ginormous national debt. Money has to come from somewhere for people that have racked up $20-30 thousand on credit cards.
Shit happens. I’ve learned this year that you can get massively sick and between the doctor bills and the lost work you can get into trouble fast.
Most Americans live beyond their means. It is one thing if you carry a little consumer debt, but the problem is it grows on you. It is like getting fat or becomming an alcoholic; the first cream filled doughnuts of shot of whiskey doesn’t wreck you, but over time, if you don’t watch it, you can find yourself in deep shit without ever knowing exactly how you got there.
Be that as it may, the current economy is largely built on borrowed money. Even for those who can afford their debt load servicing that debt is going to be taking money out of the hands of consumers. The $1000 you send to MasterCard every month is $1000 less of consumer spending that you would otherwise have done.
I don’t see a recovery on the horizon. We are in a hole, and, right now, no body wants to stop digging. I’m as bad as anybody else. I could drop a grand on edged weapons tonight and still know where the next grand I drop on knives is going. Getting off of credit is like getting off of smack. It is hard as hell to do, and too damn easy to relapse. That said, I’d have been screwed this year when I got put out on medical leave. I had a huge credit line, and it’s all about maxed out right now. But the scary thing is that with my credit score I could go out and get another $30 grand in debt pretty easy. If I were to trade in the Springer for a trike, that alone would do it, and I know the guys down at the harley shop would be pleased as punch to help me do just that…
re: #69 by LanceKates
John Kennedy and Ronald Reagan lowered taxes and revenues increased.
re: #66 by livefreeor die
I’m going to be unpopular for this, but I’m not a fan of zombie being here if she comes.
Yes, yes, many love her for her photoessays, but her calling for the rnc to get rid of conservatives and christians is what (in my opinion) turned the tables for CHarles, as the bannings and purges started shortly after.
If zombie finds LGF a horrible place to be nowdays, it is a result of her wishes being carried out.
Should she come here, I would definately make sure she understands that she will NOT have the same success here.
re: #68 by jeppo
i assume you got my email on that
re: #73 by mjazz
That’s because when the common person has more money, they can expand their businesses or just plain ol’ buy new stuff.
taxes.
But, the left really isn’t the party of choice, they’re the party of THEIR choice.
re: #68 by jeppo
Ow. That’s brutal. By all means, that should be a thread.
re: #76 by LanceKates
It’s like getting the ball rolling, they buy more, companies produce more and hire more.
Increasing taxes has the exact opposite effect.
re: #71 by phoenixgirl
1.0 gals mark of the beast
re: #74 by LanceKates
I completely respect that you have a different opinion on this.
Now I must beat you to a pulp with my banning stick./(No sarc for the first sentence though-I understand you see this differently than I do.)
re: #79 by BuddyG
i’m afraid to click……i’m afraid i’ll go blind!
re: #78 by mjazz
yup, but the left doesn’t care about that. They just want your money and want you to be dependent upon them.
All about the power.
Getting behind is easy. Of course when you’re really behind some organizations will hit you when you’re down. I just got turned down by Legal Services and I make less than $900 a month. However, my worthless lesbian ex is probably going to get assistance because she isn’t working. I also have been commanded to pay over a quarter of my income in child support even though I have the kids over 50% of the time. Remind me why Jimmy Carter created Legal Services again?
re: #55 by justdanny
Please you are coming across a little poorly. Man up. You are letting too much outside yourself define you. if you want to be a conservative you can just be one.
You’re performing the error of charles here.
re: #80 by livefreeor die
You can only TRY the beating me part.
I never guarantee success.
*grin*
re: #81 by phoenixgirl
Go on CLICK it !
re: #70 by mjazz
Are you talking about the ebonics and urban speak?
That’s kind of funny, I think.
So I guess Dave Chappelle is racist when he talks like a white person?
NOT racism, if that’s what is being implied. Sorry. Just humor.
re: #74 by LanceKates
You have a different opinion, big deal. It doesn’t change any amount of respect that I have for you.
re: #63 by snork
I agree with Snork here JustDanny. You’re being overly sensitive complaining people won’t change when it’s you that doesn’t want to open up and be tolerant and discuss things.
re: #15 by Rodan
Wow, check out this comment from zombietime:
So now taking any postion differing with Charles is seen as disloyalty to LGF by its defenders? Good Grief (TM)
re: #88 by Mars
THat’s what’s nice about conservatives. They don’t care, just so long as you’ll back yourself up.
Self-Reliance, the mother of freedom.
re: #90 by Nikis Knight
Yes, and any dissent must be tracked down and punished. So much for the First Amendment.
re: #68 by jeppo
C. bad Dan Rather Johnson.
Grrrrrrrrrrr!
re: #74 by LanceKates
I had forgotten that detail. Her photo essays were always interesting but I do remember her having some vehemently anti-Christian and also anti-conservative positions. Really Zombie has given no clear definition of exactly where Zombie sits on the political spectrum.
re: #95 by AZfederalist
Like most folks, she’ between conservative and liberal.
her sticking issues is that the rnc would win more if it gave up on principle and moved to the left.
I had thought that 2006 and 2008 proved otherwise.
re: #74 by LanceKates
I remember that and made a note at the time; be that as it may, I’d welcome zombie. No reason anyone can’t post here if they can keep the insults down to a minimum and back up their arguements with facts they’ll contribute, even if we’d disagree as much or more than we’d agree.
I don’t actually expect him to come around here, though.
re: #97 by Nikis Knight
oh, they’d be welcomed here, I just won’t be hippy skippy happy over it, unless she’s distanced herself from those positions (which is possible, if she sees the results of those actions as they came about in 2008 elections and lgf.)
heh.
re: #87 by Bumr50
Rodan wanted to know what the fuss was about.
Lizard Meth
Charles
Post #283
current thread
Sarah Plain’s ghost writer….
He pleads with his liberal loon punks to help him clean up any post that can be used to
“smear him”,,
any thing you find let me know and I’ll delete it……
like he is not the one who makes it clear what
a back staber is…
guilt in action is what it is,,,,IMO
No. But saying things like “conservative club” makes you sound like you’re mocking conservatives.
re: #75 by savage
Thanks Savage. Jeez, talk about a misunderstanding. I’m gonna email her tomorrow to try to set things right.
re: #102 by Konservo
What’s up my man!!!!!!!!
re: #98 by LanceKates
Stop being a reverse Johnson.
re: #79 by BuddyG
Man, that has to be the ugliest, if not STUPIDEST tattoo I’ve ever seen. WTH?!?! lol
re: #96 by LanceKates
I don’t know if he wanted the GOP to move left, or just LGF (on some issues). I think they’ve always fancied themselves the makings of a true majority third party over there, as if the center of the American politics is whereever Charles happens to put his feet in the morning.
re: #101 by taxfreekiller
Break out the memory hole, it’s going to get a workout.
Cato the Asslicker just e-mail Charles
they are reading here real time,
Cato just gave Charles a head’s
I mean a head’s/up,,,
Justdanny and zombie can say what they want.
Hi Cato, easy to be your normal ass hole uh?
For Goddess of the Classroom:
Please add my Aunt to the prayer list again.
My Aunt fell down yet again (third time this year). Due to complications from this fall, I think she needs surgery in the next week or two.
I read the comments on Zombietime including the ones from Irish Brown-nose, but has Zombie officially been banned from LGF now?
re: #111 by CloudyDay
{CloudyDay and aunt}
re: #106 by tuffy
Speaking of stupid tatoos, years ago a friend of mine got a tatoo with his girlfriend’s name in it. And you know happened next, right?
They broke up !
OT/ I haven’t watched the video embedded on the following page, but judging from the copy below it, this sounds like something Kilgore Trout needs to see:
11 year-old admonishes the ‘n’ word…in style!
re: #91 by LanceKates
Check this out. It’s a neat little five-shot .22 Mag boot gun. I like the retro styling (octagonal barrel, “lift plate” over the cylinder pin), and a .22 Mag will kill at close range as long as you aim it at something vital.
re: #105 by snork
come again?
A rabbi and a camel walk into a bar.
The bartender says,”What is this, a joke?”
re: #111 by CloudyDay
Ugh, that bites. Keep us posted, hun.
re: #98 by LanceKates
For as smart as Zombie sounded, I think she was confused. A Berkley Conservative is a Moderate. There is nothing in that environment that shows the daily life us regular folk.
Ladies and gentlemen, this, is an asshat:
re: #116 by Iron Fist
for 300 bucks?
excellent!
If only I had!
I could use a 3rd carry gun.
(I wonder if my state has a limit to how many firearms I can carry on me concealed. heh)
OT/ re: #113 by livefreeor die
Thank you, livefreeor die. The situation is actually a bit more sad than what I’ve outlined above, but I’m afraid to give away too much personal information, since there are mean people at another blog who spy on this one.
I don’t feel comfortable going into too much detail about myself or family members here.
I still need prayer, too.
My mom passed away last year (I don’t feel as though I will ever recover from that, I have nobody to talk to or turn to when I need to talk about her death), I have mental health issues (including clinical depression), a family member who lashes out at me with hate (because she is hurting emotionally, and it’s gotten worse since my mom died), and other things.
re: #114 by BuddyG
Never, ever get your girl’s name tattooed on you. If you are going to do that, just pick out the cover-up tattoo that you would want to get to cover up her name when you break up, and just go ahead and get that one instead. Cut out the middleman.
re: #114 by BuddyG
Well you know what they say…it’ a bad joo-joo. It like dooms the relationship the minute you get put it on. Maybe it’s Murphy’s Law. I’m ashamed to say…I’ve done it and YES, we we’re DONE shortly afterwards. I’m in the process of having it removed with laser. It’s almost completely faded, but I need a few more treatments (costs money). I’ve just kind of blown it off. It’s on my ankle so I don’t have to see it that often, lol. stupid stupid stupid. As for THE tender-moment lizard love tattoo…who do you think will get it first?? It’s so ridiculous I have to laugh out loud.
re: #104 by Rodan
Hey, Rodan, I’m about to take a nap before work. I’m going in at 3:30am!
Anyway, I wrote you an email about folks who are trying to bring down Blogmocracy by dragging it into a 2 year beef between LGF and another blog.
IMHO, there’s no reason for Blogmocracy to bring this up again. I think it’s a ploy that another blog is using to ride on the success of Blogmocracy. Like I said, this “new” post is nothing but a recap of a 2 year old dispute.
Personally, I like the direction Blogmocracy is taking, i.e., exposing the dangers of Progressivism. Bashing LGF is funny, but revisiting a 2 year old post is pointless.
re: #120 by Sparky
yup.
That’s why I find it interesting when people talk about Pawlenty for pres in 2012.
He’s from MN, so in MN he’s a conservative. And he seems like a genuinely good guy.
but I’d bet that he’d be to the left of Duncan Hunter.
Another straying from the flock:
Seven downdings for that? Mother…
re: #121 by snork
Pfff, whatever, the two minutes of hate break out whenever Charles mentions the “Stalker blog”. Freaks, cesspool, it gets vicious.
re: #123 by CloudyDay
There’s always One you can turn to, always.
(And no, I don’t mean The One, Obama)
*grin*
Never heard of the blog archive, Chuckles?
What a freak.
re: #128 by snork
Next thing you know they’ll be defending Oberdouche. It’s a just a matter of time….
re: #1 by savage
Next!
re: #124 by Iron Fist
Pfft, you’re trying to eliminate the income from the tattoo artists?
What, you expect them to get a stimulus bill passed for them? lol.
re: #123 by CloudyDay
If you haven’t already, get meds for the depression. They really help. A couple of years ago my mom had a stroke, and since we worked different shifts me and my sister took turns watching my dad because he has alzheimers. When my mom got better her and dad went into assisted living and she died the first night there. Then, to make matters worse we had to keep telling our father all over again that ma had passed away because he kept forgetting.
Life does not pull any punches.
I’ll be praying for you.
re: #122 by LanceKates
Yeah, it’s just about the perfect boot gun. I’ve seen the little mini-revolvers in .22 long rifle, and they are too tiny. I think I’d hae a hard time using them in a real situation where i’d have fear and adrinelin jacking me up, but this little puppy has enough grip given the relatively tame round it is shooting. I’ve asked my girlfriend for one for Christmas. We’ll see…
re: #121 by snork
Wow, send in the troops, cause a ruckus, throw shit around, leave and blame it on management.
Those left there should step away now, if they have any integrity left. A new low has been reached.
Is this gonna be another Late German Fascists thread?
re: #131 by snork
In other words…time to clean house.
“Something that should be deleted” now are previously right-leaning/conservative comments. Scrub time.
Uh-oh:
Dude wants a date with Stinky’s stick.
re: #136 by Iron Fist
you have a good girlfriend if she buys you guns.
she have a sister in her 20’s-mid 30’s? lol.
re: #124 by Iron Fist
Leave the banner where the name goes blank and just have someone write the name of your main squeeze of the moment on there.
When you get a new chick you can say hey I got a tattoo with your name on it. It would work if you had chicks in different parts of the country, too.
Brilliant, Chuckles:
I hope he never serves on a jury.
re: #142 by mjazz
or just use ‘magic marker’ and rewrite her name daily.
re: #127 by LanceKates
Oh you said the D word, my favorite guy. So sad when the big money pushed him out.
Nine dings!!!
Gee, I wish I never flounced. I, too, could be a Pavlovian ding monkey.
re: #131 by snork
Fear governs this man.
re: #126 by Konservo
Agreed.
Dude. Not smart messing with Dear Leader’s bitch:
#95 AZ Federalist
Maybe I had a dream about this….but I thought Zombie’s story has been told. Something about being at a protest, or out of the country at something. She was a die hard liberal until she witnessed something that day done by someone she was with. Turned her stomach and her politics…
Maybe the story is on her blog. I’ll have to check it out….
re: #145 by Sparky
big money and free press.
re: #151 by LanceKates
How would you put with him if he ran again? Would accept Palin/Hunter? I could live with that, then he plays the next Dick Cheney.
What did Rachel Maddow do?
re: #153 by mjazz
Showed up for work./
I heard a rumor that Rachel Maddow and Barney Frank were having a tryst.
re: #141 by LanceKates
Oh, I have the best girlfriend. She is a true blessing in my life. Without her, I would surely be dead by now. She’s much older than me, but she is so much better in comparison to my ex-wife and other ex-girlfriends.
We are actually engaged. I never expected that to happen. I wouldn’t even consider remarriage for a couple of decades following my divorce. Sometimes change is for the better.
As for sisters, sorry, dude, but all she has are brothers and half-brothers.
re: #155 by mjazz
brain bleach please…and hurry!
re: #131 by snork
Defense! Defense!
I===I===I===I===I
The truth will set you free CJ. If you’re that confident open up your comments in the achieves.
re: #135 by mjazz
Mjazz, I can’t even imagine how hard that was, and the stress you and your sister were under.
I thank you for your prayers, I sure do need them!
My dad is still alive and in good health, but just losing my Mom was a huge blow. I was so very close to her. (Dad is not good with emotional issues, he finds them awkward, so I can’t talk to him about her passing.)
Yes, I’ve tried antidepressants before. For years, I was on meds. For the first few months, they kind of helped, but after that, they were not effective.
#130 Lance
My faith does bring comfort at times, but there are other times when I need a flesh and blood person on the phone or sitting across from me who I can talk to.
Not that other people are always a great help.
I recently had two well-meaning Christian ladies, on different occasions, say things that hurt me. They didn’t mean to, but I don’t think they realize how they sound, that their comments were hurtful.
re: #152 by Sparky
I’d rather have Hunter/Palin.
Governor’s normally win over House members, but being from Alaska won’t play well with the east coast crowd, which is where the msm is from.
Drawback, though, to having her as vp is that he would be written off as McCain.
It doesn’t matter who we pick or what order they’re in, the free press is already behind the most liberal people running, always.
OT- Avid exposes Irish Rose as a Drug Addict!
http://avideditor.wordpress.com/2009/10/04/who-is-the-bigger-junky-cj-or-irish-rose-or-are-they-junkies-at-all/#more-4813
re: #157 by davehm
Lol!
re: #156 by Iron Fist
Well Congrats, bud!
re: #158 by FishOrCutBait
Does that dolt think we don’t know about the wayback machine?
re: #55 by justdanny
Conservatives’ problem with “atheism” isn’t the atheism. Conservatives are fine with the “village atheist” who keeps to himself.
Conservatives have a problem with someone else changing their ways. That is why they are “conservatives”. If you’re an atheist, I’ll go out on a limb and say you are also a secularist, which means you would like less religion in what conservatives insist in calling “the public square”.
For such as you and I, it’s best just to admit we’re not conservatives. We’re allied with conservatives, on some issues, or most; but we’re never going to be part of the village. No conservative will ever – for instance – vote for a “militant atheist” or even a “village atheist”.
re: #160 by LanceKates
The Far Left hated Reagan, but he was so popular they called him the Teflon President.
Omg, his first webpage “design” looks like a kids alphabet learning touchscreen or something. I’m going to peruse…thanks for the link and entertainment.
re: #108 by taxfreekiller
{{taxfreekilla!}}
re: #165 by Zimriel
Well, that little half-smear aside, my issue isn’t with an atheist…. it is with the atheist that demands that I change my culture to match theirs.
Opposing your will on someone else because you want to is not conservativism.
The atheists that say “you believe your way, I”ll believe mine, and we’ll get along fine” . . . they get my vote.
The problem is with the folks that want to keep religion out of my life and my (currently nonexistant) children’s lives for the sake of being able to never have to hear anything religious either.
Imposing, not Opposing.
re: #161 by Rodan
I was taking vikes for headaches, and narcotics (those, anyway) didn’t put me into happy land. I felt like life sucked and people sucked.
Oh, lord. Here’s a blast from the past:
Me likes the wayback machine.
re: #91 by LanceKates
What I like about conservatives is that they have a tradition they can go back to; they have extended families that are easy to reach; they have family bibles. The old ways are often the best ways, especially when things get hard.
Liberals, libertarians, and whatever the hell I am: we don’t have that. We have books. So do you, but we only have books. We have no roots. We have to muddle through.
I was just over at site1, and it’s yet another attack on these hateful Christians (IrishRose), probably since there are standards of right/wrong, even though we, far too often, don’t meet the standards we know we should.
re: #165 by Zimriel
I’d vote for an atheist if he was a fiscal conservative and his opponent was a tax and spend democrat.
re: #7 by AZfederalist
Here’s the thing that we all should either remember – or learn –
“the real answer” that you and I want, and know to be the right thing to do IS NOT the “answer” that the liberals want.
For them, the only “real answer” is the further destruction of the financial infrastructure of this country.
I have a shirt that reads:
UNITED WE STAND
except the liberals
and it’s the gospel truth. They are not on the side of liberty. They are the enemy. As much as the tyrants in Parliment and the King were the enemies to the colonists…Obama, Charles, Olberman, Pelosi, and the average liberal are enemies to the patriots.
re: #131 by snork
re: #174 by mfhorn
I love it when a hypocrite holds a Christian( or Buddist or Jew) to a standard that they themselves do not believe in.
Irony meter thru the roof.
re: #173 by Zimriel
So the problem with conservatives is that they have bibles?
re: #179 by LanceKates
I took the comments as a compliment toward those with historical roots and Bibles, etc.
But I may have misread. I’m tired.
/* just remembers to say “hello there Lancester!”
re: #173 by Zimriel
I think having larger families or closer community ties like church will tend to make people less reliant on government, and thus more conservative, but by and large I’m sure plenty of liberals have extended families and such. Although there might be a disparity due to the urban/rural divide, and also that religious conservatives simply have more children and thus are more likely to have aunts, uncles, siblings, etc.
re: #180 by Owl
Howdy Owl
HOOT! HOOT!
re: #122 by LanceKates
I think when they start clanking together, you are probably carrying too many firearms.
re: #183 by AZfederalist
“No…. those aren’t guns…. Uh…. I’m cybernetic.”
re: #123 by CloudyDay
I’m so sorry to hear about your loss, CloudyDay. I’ll keep you in my prayers.
re: #179 by LanceKates
You’re trying to troll me into saying something bad about people with bibles. That’s fucking weak, man.
I’m tired of people misconstuing my position. It’s draining. I shouldn’t have to restate everything and declare my loyalty to All Things Conservative. (Especially since I already said I wasn’t like you.)
Talk like that, implications that I’m a “BIBLE HATING HERETIC!” – that’s a big reason that people refuse to identify themselves as conservatives (or Christians). When you attack – and your post wasn’t a debate, it was an attack – it puts my back up.
I think your problem with me is that I do understand the conservative standpoint. I can’t, for instance, find any difference in my 165 and your 169 except tone.
I pray (and I do pray) that I’m not also getting a taste of the conservative soul from your post.
re: #178 by Owl
While nobody’s perfect, I can admit to knowing whose Perfect standards I should be living up to. Too many people seem to have a ‘if it feels good, do it’ attitude. I hope & I pray that I never act that way.
re: #159 by CloudyDay
If you are not already a member of a family of believers somewhere, find a church that teaches as you believe. At a minimum, the Pastor(s) should be able to help with counseling and also connect you to others with whom you can talk. Just remember that every congregation is a gathering of believers who are still sinners as well, so don’t let things that may be said inadvertently hurt you.
re: #186 by Zimriel
Don’t worry about presenting any conservative “credentials” I understood your post. A lot did. Lance may have just read it too quick. I think we need to realize that most of us here (even some of the far left) have more in common than at many places. We all care for this country and don’t want to see it flushed down the shitter. How we get there, we may not completely agree, but at least we are willing to discuss it without too much invective
re: #187 by mfhorn
You misread my post. It happens alot, don’t sweat it.
What I was referring to is the fact that atheists often try to hold Christians to Biblical principles to which the atheist doesn’t subscribe.
It’s the “plank in the eye” analogy. Well, to a point.
re: #186 by Zimriel
Well Zim, you’re post was an attack too. ( #168)
I think Lance was asking if you were saying that people’s Bible’s were the problem. Then, instead of answering that question, you hit him with two backhanded insults in one post.
I say you both cool it and meet back here tomorrow. LOL
Or you can both just jump on me. …’cause I’m going to bed now.
re: #186 by Zimriel
No, I’m just trying to clarify, you can stop with the personal attacks.
What I’m seeing is that you feel you can’t fit in with conservatives because of some apparent bigotry of atheists.
What my response was is that conservatives don’t dislike atheists, just atheists (or any other religion) that wants to use government to impose their belief system on others.
I don’t care if someone is atheist, bhuddist or baptist… if they want to push their religion via government, I’ll oppose it.
What I questioned was, while discussing what seems to be a religious intolerance among ‘conservatives’ you kept bringing up the bible as a common thread amongst those intolerant folks. so, my question was, are you saying that the issue with conservatives is the bible?
Because the bible isn’t related to conservativism (though the judeo-christian mindset pushes independence of the individual and reliance on something other than government)… a desire for personal freedom and responsibility is related to conservativism.
The idea that christians are somehow ‘choking’ conservativism is an idea pushed by people who don’t like christians in an attempt to somehow undermine conservativism.
It is the same idea pushed by charles and zombie in relation to why moderate weenies wouldn’t vote republican.
“When all else fails, blame the christians” That never leads to success.
re: #192 by LanceKates
I see, I was wondering what the disagreement was since I didn’t see anything objectionable in Zimerial’s 168, but I’d agree that christian and conservative are not one and the same. Especially since there are liberal christians and non-Christian conservatives (not many, but then again non-Christians are technically a minority anyway, so of course there aren’t that many non-Christian conservatives that stand out).
Relgion informs my politics, but I can discuss one without the other.
The problem I’d have voting for an athiest over a non-athiest would be that I prefer someone who I know feels that they are answerable to God, rather than someone who is only answerable to themselves; that said that would be quite low on the list of things I’d consider, maybe a tie-breaker question in a primary between two otherwise equal candidates, because there are more important factors in governance (like their political philosophy and record backing that up), and you can’t really tell whose faith is real anyway–at least you know the athiest is being honest about it, and all things considered that’s a counter point (to the issue above) in their favor.
re: #193 by Nikis Knight
Liberal christians bug me. I’ve yet to find one that didn’t think Jesus was a pacifist.
The draw, apparently, is the belief that Jesus was an eternal pacifist, always walking around with a grin on his face as though constantly high on pot…
CLEARLY not the case from scripture.
I understand your idea of a politician feeling they answer to God for their actions, but I’m more concerned about a politician who feels they answer to me and want smaller government and more personal responsibility.
As far as I am concerned, they can believe that we evolved from rubber duckies.
I prefer a christian, but if my choice is between a bhuddist conservative and a christian liberal, I’m voting for the conservative.
re: #193 by Nikis Knight
That brings up the argument about whether someone can be truly moral without religious grounding. I believe yes, there are many religious who are immoral and many non that are moral. It’s more about who you are and how you are brought up than whether you are religious or not. I would say however people with a solid religious background deserve far more disdain for their immoral behaviour than ones who do not have that advantage. Ie. Harry Reid
re: #193 by Nikis Knight
I meant ultimately answerable, as of course we’re all answerable to our bosses, even Obama come 2012.
And it really would be far down the list of considerations for me, given that Carter, Clinton, and Bush (among most or all others) were all professing Christians, I can’t honestly say it seems to have much bearing on governance.
re: #192 by LanceKates
I’m a bible believing Christian who is very concerned with the direction this country where it’s going. I don’t hate or have a problem with atheist but looking at what atheist do I would say they have a problem with us. Here’s an example, a small one but to the point. We have a cross down here on Mt. Soledad in San Diego. There was this atheist guy who for years and tons of tax payer money tried to have the cross removed now what’s up with that?
re: #194 by LanceKates
Hell yeah.
And to be clear I don’t believe people deserve disdain if they slip morally, it’s the ones who outright reject their moral upbringing that deserve our disdain. Though I suppose if I were a good christian I’d have to forgive them. Fortunately I haven’t yet developed that habit.
re: #195 by Mars
During the cycle of the Judges, there was a time that the people “did as each man saw fit”
The general idea is that there was no moral code that people remembered. That doesn’t mean that all did evil.
many did, but some still retained the moral code of their ancestors.
Those are the ones that, when the people were oppressed, remembered God and turned back to Him, leading the way for the next Judge.
185. ladycatnip
Thank you, ladycatnip.
re: #188 by AZfederalist
I’m new to the area but have been going to a small church (less than 200 members, I think) of my denomination for a couple of months now.
I’m not sure if the pastor of my church does counseling, or if I’d feel comfortable going to him even if he does.
I know everyone is flawed.
I made the decision to forgive these ladies (one of them goes to my church), but it still hurts, and it made me realize I cannot turn to these people when I need to talk.
When I try to share with the one lady from my church about how I miss my mom or whatever else, she tends to get kind of judgmental and condemning (but with a smile on her face when she does so) or gives me trite advice (like “pray more often!”), rather than give non-judgmental support and empathy.
re: #195 by Mars
The question isn’t whether a person can be moral without religon; if religion offers a set of principals supposedly objective, chance alone dictates that some will happen to follow them even without knowing them or knowing the basis for them, so much more in a country influenced by that religion.
The problem is that if someone devises their own code of morality, even if it is a good one, how do you know that they will stick to it if even they admit it only comes from their own reason and not a higher authority? They might reason it to be wrong at a later date and change their mind.
No offense meant if I am muddling up this explanation, I think this post is a bit confused myself but I’ll throw it out there in the hopes that it makes sense to someone.
#192 LanceKates
Now there’s a nic from the past! I remember you from LGF from years ago. So when did you get banned?
Anyway, I read Zimriel’s post a little differently than you did. I didn’t take offense to it as it seemed like an honest question to me. Yet, I also understand being on the defensive these days as Christianity has become the new demon of the left.
Any I think you’ve just given Zimriel what he was looking for…That Conservatives welcome anyone into the fold if they believe in what conservatives hold dear. And a strong sense of morality is one of them. Yet we don’t believe that only Christians have cornered the market on it.
We must never forget that the left and the media have been successful at portraying Conservatives as only Christians and as those who are unwilling to accept anyone who doesn’t believe as they do. Yet because of that strong sense of morality we are mostly the ones who are much more tolerant. It is, generally, against our nature to use another to gain something for ourselves. That is a liberal quality.
So, as a Conservative, as long as someone holds the same values I could care less if they are an athiest or whatever they choose to be.
Do I like radical Christian hating athiests? No, but then I don’t like radical leftist Christians either!
re: #197 by davehm
Yeah, there are always bad apples. I still blame liberalism more than atheism.
One can not believe in God and not be an ass.
It is hard to be a liberal and not become an ass at some point, normally the point where you justify oppressing others because they don’t do what you want them to do with their lives.
That’s why liberalism blow big baby chunks.
re: #159 by CloudyDay
Keep your faith close. You have my prayers and support as well. As a person of faith, remember that God doesn’t give you more than you can handle.
You will come out a stronger person for this.
It too, shall pass.
re: #202 by Whippet
I got banned in early 2008 for being able to count to two when it came to the anti-ben stein threads.
and you and I wholly agree. It’s about Conservativism, not religion.
My soul is about religion, my freedom is about conservativism.
Well, I’m out. have a good one, all.
re: #200 by CloudyDay
Without knowing more, I’d say it sounds like her faith has not been tested by real pain or hardship.
Pray more often probably isn’t bad advice, but it isn’t the kind of thing you turn to a friend for when you are hurting; you want someone who will comfort and share your pain.
re: #203 by LanceKates
Before I even picked up a bible I remember back in the 80’s Reagan said in a speech that he had to answer to a higher authority (he wasn’t talking about tax payers) I was impressed by that, I figured that even if God didn’t exist I knew that his believing in God would keep him on a moral path.
#205 LancKates
“My soul is about religion, my freedom is about conservativism.”
Beautifully said, and I couldn’t agree with you more…
204. Rides A Pale Horse
Thank you, Rides A Pale Horse
re: #207 by Nikis Knight
The strange thing is her own mother died a few years ago. She is in her 60s and is married, so I guess her mom must’ve been in her 80s. I’m in my 30s and am unmarried, so I do not have a spouse to comfort me as she did.
You’d think someone who lost her own mother would be more empathetic.
by Nikis Knight:
Exactly, thank you for understanding!
I think “pray more often” (and her other favorites are “read your Bible more” and “turn to God”) can be good advice to some people in some situations, but not for me right now, and not in my present situation.
Besides that, I do pray a lot and read my Bible a lot, so the underlying assumption that I am not doing so is kind of insulting.
The other assumption is that prayer and Bible reading magically erases depression or mourning, which is unrealistic thinking.
To make a long story short, she essentially told me in a Sunday School class recently (in front of another person) that I am a selfish person- she seems to think I’m selfish for having emotional issues, for hurting, and for mentioning this stuff (which I only did during the class because she asked me to cite a personal example to illuminate that day’s Bible study we were doing).
I was in shock at first by her reaction and then later, hurt.
re: #165 by Zimriel
you have so got to be freaking kidding me. YOU? attempting to speak for conservatives when you think they are stupid and dishonest. http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2009/09/new-american-reality.html
OT/ I linked to an article by the same guy (Lloyd Marcus) in another thread about a week ago; this one is pretty interesting too:
Unexpected Outgrowths of the Tea Party Movement
[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by shaz glennhill. shaz glennhill said: » Progressive policies Prolong The Recession >> 2.0: blogmocracy.com: Progressive policies Prolong The Re.. http://bit.ly/2ESMw [...]
re: #126 by Konservo
I’m not sure you realise the implications of that “two year beef” thing. That point is when CJ went to the bad and started his smear campaign against Geller and other conservative and anti-jihad writers. The post at GoV is a summary of the events that would ultimately lead to the creation of this site, as that point marked the second, sustained campaign of purging and banning for “incorrect” thought amongst CJ’s minions. It’s highly relevant.
re: #213 by archonix
More to the point, though, it higlights how a number of major blogs turned into a new sort of MSM and sided with CJ against the truth. They believed CJ because he was one of them and here was a consequent failure to fact-check his baseless assertions against Geller and co because he was one of their own. Now he’s lashed out at each of them in turn and they’ve thrown him off but if they had taken him to task then, when the evidence destroying his smear campaign was first presented, there wouldn’t have been this painfully drawn out conflict. No Irish Rose, no Sharmuta, no smear campaigns. He might even have got a clue and backed off from being a shithead to everyone.
re: #112 by Mad Mullah
Yes.
re: #213 by archonix
You might want to ask the folks who started this site about that. It was originally called “Charles and Killgore Free Footballs,” and was never focused on proving LGF wrong or making Charles retract statements. The point of this blog was more along the lines of recreating the old LGF in a more open manner in which commentors are given more freedom.
The dispute between LGF and other blogs really has nothing to do with this site. Rodan (who I know personally and who created the first LGF2) is more concerned with Progressivism than with 2 year old statements by Charles Johnson that may not be factually correct.
I think you’re giving your friends too much credit. They responded to Charles on one issue. I was banned for calling out one of Charles’ buddies as an Armenian Genocide denier, Rodan and Avid were banned for sticking up for the Serbs, others were banned for their religious beliefs, still other because of what Charles believed was misuse of the Lizard Lounge. The real change occurred with the election of Barack Obama, that’s when Charles exposed himself as full blown Progressive, imho.
Plus, it’s pretty pathetic when regular commentors from another blog try this hard to get a post referenced at another blog. Jeppo provided the link, if the admins at Blogmocracy want to make an official post on the matter, they will. I don’t think it helps your case that you and jeppo keep pushing for this.
Just sayin’;)