~Open Thread: Wednesday Afternoon Edition~

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  1. coldwarrior
    1 | September 9, 2009 3:53 pm

    yeah!!!!

    open thread!


  2. jeppo
    2 | September 9, 2009 3:54 pm

    Robert Spencer smacks down selrahC HARD!


  3. 3 | September 9, 2009 3:54 pm

    Everyone(m) has his own one(f)
    To complete his circle
    Everyone(f) has her own one(m)
    To come, as if in a lot.
    As the cloths are to the body
    As air is for the breath
    And in all the madness around
    The two can find consolation in each other

    And you, you sweet soul of mine
    the only one to light my fire
    And with you on my side I feel like the whole world is in me
    With you on my side I feel like the whole universe is in me
    Without you, I’m merely half a man
    Without you, I am practically nothing.

    Everyone(m) has his own dream
    That appears to be coming near
    everyone(f) has her own dream
    To come true and storm her heart
    As water is for the thirsty
    As hope is for the desperate
    And in this ocean of cold
    They have their love.
    -end-


  4. coldwarrior
    4 | September 9, 2009 3:55 pm

    i aint watchin 0 tonight.

    i’ll have a drink or 2 and hit the sack. early morning tomorrow.

    anyone gonna watch the 0


  5. coldwarrior
    5 | September 9, 2009 3:56 pm

    re: #2 by jeppo

    BAM!


  6. 6 | September 9, 2009 3:59 pm

    re: #2 by jeppo

    That is pretty good.

    If we are playing the Guilt-by-association game, someone with an account at Jihad Watch should point them to our “Strange Bedfellows” posts:

    Strange Bedfellows: LGF, The Progressive Machine, & The Communist Party

    and

    Strange Bedfellows: Communism & Evolution


  7. Toodles
    7 | September 9, 2009 4:01 pm

    Looking forward to watching 0 tonight. I don’t think he has dug to China yet. What more can he possibly say to sell Obamacare? New words couched in old meanings probably.

    Will TOTUS fall down and go boom?

    Thanks for the Spencer link, going to read that now.


  8. song_and_dance_man
    8 | September 9, 2009 4:01 pm

    ahhh a relaxing open thread before the assault against our American sensibilities by B. Hussein O.

    Even the TOTUS is nervous.


  9. 9 | September 9, 2009 4:02 pm

    re: #4 by coldwarrior

    Neither am I; I have better things to do with my time than hear Barry talk.


  10. coldwarrior
    10 | September 9, 2009 4:05 pm

    re: #9 by Morgan

    i wont watch, but i am hoping for a teleprompter failure.


  11. Toodles
    11 | September 9, 2009 4:05 pm

    I read somewhere on a blog not to long ago, maybe this one, not sure a really funny joke.

    TOTUS is down in the basement sniffing Windex.

    Cracks me up!


  12. song_and_dance_man
    12 | September 9, 2009 4:05 pm

    re: #2 by jeppo

    I have a mind to go there and slam the 1.0 maven. But it will accomplish nothing for my benefit.

    However realize this. He has been slamming Morrisey of Hot Air, and Real Clear Politics picks up Hot Airs posts all the time. And Real Clear Politics is picked up by everyone on the conservative side. So, the nature of what Charles has become is being known by more and more every day.

    HA


  13. 13 | September 9, 2009 4:11 pm

    HAREI AT MEKUDESHET LI
    —————–
    YOU ARE BETROTHED TO ME
    By Shlomi Shabat

    I take you to be my wife,
    this is what I will say when you will put on
    the bridal dress
    the singer will sing for you
    my sweet soul
    and I will agree in a harmonious voice

    Oh, beautiful bride,
    I swear to you, in the name of love
    oh, beautiful bride,
    I will ask for your hand even in the next world

    Hug me and we will close our eyes,
    and remain forever two flowers
    You and I are a match made in heaven,
    so let’s have a chupah (canopy)
    with all the lovers

    I take you to be my wife,
    this is what I will whisper
    I will take you to dance on the dancing floor
    when the party will be over, my beautiful,
    we will go on our honeymoon
    and will seal our love forever

    Oh, beautiful bride…

    Hug me and we will close our eyes,
    and remain forever two flowers
    You and I are a match made in heaven,
    So let’s have a chupa (canopy)
    with all the friends


  14. 14 | September 9, 2009 4:12 pm

    Some help please.

    What is the name of Rose & Aarons site?


  15. Toodles
    15 | September 9, 2009 4:15 pm

    re: #13 by WrathofG-d
    Such a beautiful poem Wrath:)


  16. coldwarrior
    16 | September 9, 2009 4:17 pm

    re: #12 by song_and_dance_man

    yeah…but the more we beat on him the more it feeds his ego. i know we cant help it but, we are helping, in our own little way, to ‘enable’ really bizarre and hateful behavior.


  17. 17 | September 9, 2009 4:17 pm

    re: #10 by coldwarrior

    Now THAT would be news!

    :) )


  18. song_and_dance_man
    18 | September 9, 2009 4:18 pm

    re: #10 by coldwarrior

    That would be a great thing. I can see him now, blubbering along incoherently.


  19. song_and_dance_man
    19 | September 9, 2009 4:24 pm

    re: #16 by coldwarrior

    I think you are on to something there. The more we slam him in exposition the more he can claim victim hood and find justification, in a woe is me-they all hate mindset, to retaliate.


  20. 20 | September 9, 2009 4:24 pm

    I want this message heard. And I know it’ll get where it needs to go….

    Apparently berating, belittling, threatening, stalking and bashing on his own readers isn’t enough for Charles Johnson. That’s the climate on his own blog, his own threads… he’s reaching out by proxy.

    I guess some people like that climate – like a restaurant where it is avant garde for the waiter to insult the patrons.

    Look, Dude, leave the people alone after they leave. It’s none of your business where they read, where they comment, what blogs they follow, what they say on their own blogs, who they link to, or what they say on other blogs, even if they are criticizing you. What do you expect?

    Leave. Us. Alone.


  21. 21 | September 9, 2009 4:25 pm

    re: #15 by Toodles

    Thank you. It makes a great song as well.

    I have another for you:

    Ehud Banai – Hayom (”today”)

    “Today we’ll do something unforgettable
    that will leave a blessed memory of joy
    today I’ll put my hand on your head and stroke it
    today I’ll finally cause you to smile
    today I’ll chase away the sorrow from your eyes
    I’ll make today the happiest in your life
    today you’ll hear what you haven’t heard yet
    I’ll renew you a renewal and light up your look
    today I’ll cook you something tasty
    I’ll do everything so you’d feel pleasantly
    right, I don’t always show love
    but t oday I ask the proximity,
    today.

    The two of us haven’t talked for so much time
    about everything that passes above us
    today we’ll go out, around in the neighborhood
    we’ll sit a bit together on a bench in the garden
    today we’ll do something unforgettable
    that will leave a blessed memory of joy
    today I’ll put my hand on your head to stroke it
    today I’ll finally cause you to smile
    today.”


  22. vapig
    22 | September 9, 2009 4:26 pm

    re: #4 by coldwarrior

    Not a chance – and if the radio swings over to him it gets turned off too!


  23. 23 | September 9, 2009 4:27 pm

    Found it http://internet-haganah.com/haganah/index.html

    support our friends Rose & Aaron are good people.


  24. coldwarrior
    25 | September 9, 2009 4:34 pm

    re: #19 by song_and_dance_man

    im not saying that we are going to stop. but, just throwin it out thereyryju <–my youngest
    just said hi to everyone!


  25. 26 | September 9, 2009 4:36 pm

    Wrath…

    Did u get that from
    Aarons site? Or just coinkydink?


  26. Toodles
    27 | September 9, 2009 4:36 pm

    re: #24 by WrathofG-d

    Went and listened to the song, awesome:)

    I collect ancient Jewish coins, wish I could have just one of those!


  27. 28 | September 9, 2009 4:40 pm

    re: #26 by BenZacharia

    I first saw it on Israel National News some time ago, but didn’t post it (as I figured it wasn’t Thread worthy)

    Then saw it again on Internet Hagannah so I posted it.

    I have relatives that were in the actual Hagganah. (just bragging)


  28. BuddyG
    29 | September 9, 2009 4:44 pm

    Canabalt Game

    After webpage appears, left click once, and then hit capital X or C to start game

    Spacebar to jump


  29. 30 | September 9, 2009 4:49 pm

    Molotov Michael

    http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=109223


  30. coldwarrior
    31 | September 9, 2009 4:51 pm

    re: #28 by WrathofG-d

    it aint bragging if they did it.

    thats just stating fact!


  31. song_and_dance_man
    32 | September 9, 2009 4:51 pm

    deleted


  32. song_and_dance_man
    33 | September 9, 2009 4:51 pm

    deleted


  33. song_and_dance_man
    34 | September 9, 2009 4:52 pm

    re: #25 by coldwarrior

    LOL. That is just too cool. Saying Hi back.

    When my son as a toddler and even before that was fascinated by me being on the keyboard all the time and he wanted it. So, I got him a keyboard for his walker. He loved it. He would dart about the room hitting the keys like there was no tomorrow.


  34. coldwarrior
    35 | September 9, 2009 4:52 pm

    re: #32 by song_and_dance_man

    GREAT SCOT!!!!

    what a brilliant idea!

    i’m on it!


  35. song_and_dance_man
    36 | September 9, 2009 4:56 pm

    OK everybody be still. B. Hussein is about to address his teleprompter.


  36. song_and_dance_man
    37 | September 9, 2009 4:57 pm

    That is weird. I was able to post the same thing 3 times.


  37. coldwarrior
    38 | September 9, 2009 4:58 pm

    re: #37 by song_and_dance_man

    i cant watch…and with that. night all! see yinz tomorrow, probably.


  38. 39 | September 9, 2009 5:04 pm

    Pink and kenneth got the stick btw


  39. song_and_dance_man
    40 | September 9, 2009 5:04 pm

    Oooo there is Cackle Rodham the secretary.


  40. Toodles
    41 | September 9, 2009 5:05 pm

    Obama is running late, TOTUS must have a flat tire


  41. song_and_dance_man
    42 | September 9, 2009 5:05 pm

    re: #39 by BenZacharia

    Kenneth? He was one of the truly bright left there. Harrumph.


  42. lobo91
    43 | September 9, 2009 5:06 pm

    Too bad this joint session of Congress isn’t like one of those stings where the cops send letters to fugitives telling them they’ve won the lottery or something and arrest them when they show up to claim their prize…


  43. mawskrat
    44 | September 9, 2009 5:06 pm

    Damn…my cable just went out and I was so looking forward to it’s speach tonight.


  44. 45 | September 9, 2009 5:07 pm

    re: #30 by BenZacharia

    W00T BenZacharia!

    Revolution isn’t scary…Tyranny is!


  45. Sparky
    46 | September 9, 2009 5:07 pm

    re: #44 by mawskrat

    Aww, it’s a plot. Look under the bushes. Spys everywhere I tell ya.


  46. 47 | September 9, 2009 5:08 pm

    re: #42 by song_and_dance_man

    Yes, allow me to be the 1st to state that The Blogmocracy WELCOMES”Kenneth” and his vast knowledge over to The Blogmocracy with open arms.


  47. lobo91
    48 | September 9, 2009 5:08 pm

    re: #44 by mawskrat

    Try this: C-span


  48. Empire1
    49 | September 9, 2009 5:10 pm

    re: #4 by coldwarrior

    Not me. Two reasons: can’t believe anything he says, and I cannot stand the sound of his voice. The way he says his S’s reminds me unpleasantly of a parselmouth …


  49. Sparky
    50 | September 9, 2009 5:10 pm

    re: #45 by WrathofG-d

    Holy cow Wrath, takes some keewel video pr0n you got going there, it scrolls up and down and everything, but can it change my oil?


  50. song_and_dance_man
    51 | September 9, 2009 5:12 pm

    Great. He comes as I’m eating dinner.


  51. Sparky
    52 | September 9, 2009 5:13 pm

    OK mawskrat, he’s got on a flag lapel pin and a red tie , he really wants something bad!


  52. song_and_dance_man
    53 | September 9, 2009 5:14 pm

    The greeting for him in the chamber seems subdued.

    Yah


  53. Sparky
    54 | September 9, 2009 5:16 pm

    Whats the drinking word? Let’s make this worth it.


  54. 55 | September 9, 2009 5:16 pm

    Wrath…

    You’ll luv zoltran too.


  55. song_and_dance_man
    56 | September 9, 2009 5:16 pm

    The long known teabagger proponents behind him are just pathetic.


  56. song_and_dance_man
    57 | September 9, 2009 5:17 pm

    Here we go. I’m better than Bush.


  57. song_and_dance_man
    58 | September 9, 2009 5:18 pm

    re: #54 by Sparky

    uninsured


  58. Sparky
    59 | September 9, 2009 5:18 pm

    There will be no private capital for business, that isn’t tied to gov’t cheese.


  59. LGoPs
    60 | September 9, 2009 5:18 pm

    re: #38 by coldwarrior

    See ya CW


  60. lobo91
    61 | September 9, 2009 5:19 pm

    There’s the first lie.


  61. Iron Fist
    62 | September 9, 2009 5:20 pm

    re: #54 by Sparky

    “Uh”. Do a double shot for “um”. Call 9-11 for your alcohol poisoning before you start this. The paramedics will probably get there in time to save your life.

    :mrgreen:


  62. Sparky
    63 | September 9, 2009 5:20 pm

    Drink!!


  63. song_and_dance_man
    64 | September 9, 2009 5:21 pm

    Sparky

    ding one, uninsured. Drink


  64. Sparky
    65 | September 9, 2009 5:22 pm

    Drink!!#2


  65. Bumr50
    66 | September 9, 2009 5:22 pm

    re: #52 by Sparky

    How many stars?


  66. song_and_dance_man
    67 | September 9, 2009 5:22 pm

    Drink

    ding 2


  67. jas
    68 | September 9, 2009 5:23 pm

    Since this is the open thread, and since I’ve only been here since Saturday, I wanted to share a few thoughts. Like most of you, I spent a fair amount of time at 1.0 over the years. In my case, it was more as a reader, who once in a while felt compelled to offer my observations, and, more than anything engage a broad spectrum of people, who, at their core, I believed understood the world we were facing after 9/11. I’ll admit, I was mainly on the periphery, while I saw many form what appeared to be strong friendships and bonds. 1.0 felt like a community. I drifted in and out from time to time…election 2006 soured me for a while…I came back during the primaries, only to pull back when McCain won the nomination. Then he nominated Sarah, and IO felt rejuvenated. I still hadn’t felt the change that it appears others may have been aware of prior…I was never fond the of the anti-creationist meme…although it hadn’t yet hit full steam.

    Anyway, election seemed to accelerate everything, where suddenly, I felt uncomfortable even looking in, let alone even commenting. So, I just went away.

    The loss of 1.0 is sad to me, but, to see the attacks that so many of you had to withstand, and in such a cowardly fashion, it is easy to see why so many of you have to commiserate. Too many posters have too many open wounds that still need healing.

    Me, I found solace in other places, but, it’s just good to see so many names who’s mere presence at 1.0 made me feel part of a genuine community. And, that’s the part that probably bothers me most…but, life is transient that way.

    The observation is watching what took place at Ace’s over the weekend…it wasn’t that it was a blog war. Rather, it was as if Ace’s complete takedown of Mr. Johnson seemed to represent so many former 1.0ers that it was felt across the right side of the blogosphere….Ace, HA, GWP RWN, here…everywhere.

    Eh, I went on long enough….


  68. 69 | September 9, 2009 5:23 pm

    First lie “My Fellow Americans.”

    Or was it “Good eveining”


  69. song_and_dance_man
    70 | September 9, 2009 5:23 pm

    What a bunch of pablum


  70. Iron Fist
    71 | September 9, 2009 5:23 pm

    Damn, they are in full Obamessiah-worship mode over at 1.0. I expected as much. How do the sane ones stand it? I almost did my flounce a few times before I got the axe, and it is so much worse now.


  71. lobo91
    72 | September 9, 2009 5:23 pm

    Well, there you go. Two people were screwed over by insurance companies, so we should clearly destroy an entire industry.


  72. Sparky
    73 | September 9, 2009 5:24 pm

    re: #66 by Bumr50

    All 57 of course!


  73. Sparky
    74 | September 9, 2009 5:25 pm

    re: #72 by lobo91

    What else could we possibly do?
    //


  74. song_and_dance_man
    75 | September 9, 2009 5:26 pm

    And what he wants is for us to pay for everyone that has none.
    \
    Oh Puhlease. Our health problem is our defictit problem and no one disputes them?

    ER we dispute them and we are somebody.


  75. Sparky
    76 | September 9, 2009 5:27 pm

    Teleprompter whiplash should be covered under the new plan he is proposing. My neck is getting sore just watching, maybe I should just listen for my health.


  76. song_and_dance_man
    77 | September 9, 2009 5:27 pm

    He is really pushing what most don’t want.


  77. LGoPs
    78 | September 9, 2009 5:27 pm

    I even hate the bastard’s intonations. His tone. Like he’s lecturing us.


  78. LGoPs
    79 | September 9, 2009 5:28 pm

    I’d rather bicker….


  79. song_and_dance_man
    80 | September 9, 2009 5:28 pm

    And here he goes railing against just plain Americans. Yea in his mind we are bickering. What a huge lie he propagates.


  80. lobo91
    81 | September 9, 2009 5:29 pm

    re: #75 by song_and_dance_man

    Not to him, we’re not.


  81. IslandLibertarian
    82 | September 9, 2009 5:29 pm

    SCARE TACTICS!!!!!
    like you just used, you big “0″(pronounced zero)


  82. IslandLibertarian
    83 | September 9, 2009 5:29 pm

    HALLELUJHA! He’s gettin’ FIRED UP!


  83. waldensianspirit
    84 | September 9, 2009 5:30 pm

    Hear ye! Hear ye! The Bankrupter speaketh!


  84. song_and_dance_man
    85 | September 9, 2009 5:30 pm

    re: #79 by LGoPs

    high five


  85. Bumr50
    86 | September 9, 2009 5:30 pm

    re: #78 by LGoPs

    I can’t watch. Did he point his finger at you yet?

    Try and break it for me.

    OT- Sigh. I’m asking “Why Pittsburgh?” too.


  86. Sparky
    87 | September 9, 2009 5:30 pm

    Gonna barf now, planting false premises then goes into the big voice for applause to keep people from thinking about what he just said. And now he is giving specifics on a plan that doesn’t exist.

    Gotta get a new beer


  87. Iron Fist
    88 | September 9, 2009 5:31 pm

    Damn, Chekote, come on over, and tell us what you said! It must be a doozy to have the mini-One in such a lather…


  88. lobo91
    89 | September 9, 2009 5:31 pm

    “Nothing in this plan will require you to change what you have now.

    Key word: require.

    Once your employer figures out how much money they’ll save by dumping your coverage, you won’t have a choice.


  89. LGoPs
    90 | September 9, 2009 5:31 pm

    I really hate the 52% that voted for this guy.


  90. song_and_dance_man
    91 | September 9, 2009 5:32 pm

    And now he goes on about what it will not be.

    We have heard this before and he thinks he has marginalized the opposition with a few choice words and so has an open field to move forward what has already been rejected.

    He is in way over his head.


  91. Beltfed
    92 | September 9, 2009 5:33 pm

    Anyone keeping tract of Pelosi’s BPM


  92. IslandLibertarian
    93 | September 9, 2009 5:33 pm

    choices?
    cross state competitive choices?
    tort reformed choices?


  93. LGoPs
    94 | September 9, 2009 5:34 pm

    I want Congress to have the same plan he is proposing.

    As a matter of fact I fucking demand it.

    Show us the way you bastards.


  94. song_and_dance_man
    95 | September 9, 2009 5:34 pm

    Oohh tax credits. Four years out.


  95. Iron Fist
    96 | September 9, 2009 5:34 pm

    re: #90 by LGoPs

    Heh™ I saw earlier that his disapprove polls were at 52%. I wonder what the answer would be if they asked “If the election were held today, who would you vote for: Barack Obama or John McCain?”

    Oh, and I’ve noticed Mandy has quit asking the Republicans that stayed home if they are “fucking happy now”. I guess that sentimate isn’t welcomed over at Re-elect Obama headquarters.


  96. song_and_dance_man
    97 | September 9, 2009 5:35 pm

    Before he is done and it may be at the end of his speech he will invoke the name of Ted Kennedy.


  97. Sparky
    98 | September 9, 2009 5:35 pm

    I now will give you everything you ever wished for for nothing down and no payments for 3 years!

    Oh oh here comes the mandatory part! ID cards are here.


  98. vagabond trader
    99 | September 9, 2009 5:36 pm

    re: #90 by LGoPs

    Me too.Time to get back to Anthology on VH1 classic. The Beatles, simpler times.


  99. Sparky
    100 | September 9, 2009 5:36 pm

    re: #97 by song_and_dance_man

    Don’t forget Superman!


  100. song_and_dance_man
    101 | September 9, 2009 5:37 pm

    If noticed, he is talking to the pols in session. No one that is up on this debate has any idea what he is talking about.


  101. vagabond trader
    102 | September 9, 2009 5:37 pm

    Do not look directly into his eyes!!!!


  102. LGoPs
    103 | September 9, 2009 5:38 pm

    re: #96 by Iron Fist

    Heh. I saw a news clip yesterday of when he said we were 5 days away from fundamentally changing America. And the asshat bastards sitting behind him cheering.

    I think I scared my neighbors when they heard me scream……


  103. song_and_dance_man
    104 | September 9, 2009 5:39 pm

    Ha. He mentioned talk show hosts as cynical and charged with lies.

    Boy Rush, Hannity and Beck will down this charge full boar tomorrow.


  104. Former LGFer
    105 | September 9, 2009 5:39 pm

    Anyone watching Obummer’s speech?

    This is a man with a serious messiah issue.


  105. Sparky
    106 | September 9, 2009 5:39 pm

    Oh oh death panels!! Palin will eat this guy for lunch tomorrow. Anytime he gets specific he opens a big door. Someone just yell LIE after saying no illegal coverage.


  106. LGoPs
    107 | September 9, 2009 5:39 pm

    Yeah, right. No funding for illegals.

    They’ll just make it illegal to ask anyone about their citizenship status…..like they already fucking do.


  107. song_and_dance_man
    108 | September 9, 2009 5:40 pm

    re: #103 by LGoPs

    That is a known fact among the informed. Not your screaming, but that he said it.
    \
    Oh here he goes against the Capitalists.


  108. vagabond trader
    109 | September 9, 2009 5:40 pm

    4000 holes in Blackburn Lancashire. Ahh, those were the days.


  109. LGoPs
    110 | September 9, 2009 5:41 pm

    re: #102 by vagabond trader

    Do not look directly into his eyes!!!!

    I literally cannot. I have a visceral reaction to this poseur.


  110. Sparky
    111 | September 9, 2009 5:41 pm

    Prophets not profits, now let me tell you how much you can earn.


  111. IslandLibertarian
    112 | September 9, 2009 5:42 pm

    re: #109 by vagabond trader

    “I’d love to turn you on………….”


  112. vagabond trader
    113 | September 9, 2009 5:42 pm

    re: #110 by LGoPs

    Can. Not. Listen. Hi there LGoPs, welcome to the ~stalker blog~.


  113. song_and_dance_man
    114 | September 9, 2009 5:42 pm

    No he doesn’t want to put insurance co.’s out of business, he just wants to socialize and nationalize them in his grand totalitarian utopia and thereby control them.


  114. Bumr50
    115 | September 9, 2009 5:42 pm

    re: #104 by song_and_dance_man

    Is this tonight’s speech? It sounds a lot, from what I’m hearing from you guys, like the previous 20 or so.

    I thought this was gonna be the earth shaker. Yawn.


  115. LGoPs
    116 | September 9, 2009 5:43 pm

    re: #108 by song_and_dance_man

    Ha!. That used to be my banner cry over at 1.0:

    Is this fucking fundamental enough for ya?


  116. Sparky
    117 | September 9, 2009 5:43 pm

    re: #102 by vagabond trader

    How? they dart around so much, I feel like I’m looking at a crackhead.


  117. vagabond trader
    118 | September 9, 2009 5:43 pm

    re: #112 by IslandLibertarian

    All you need is love, luv.


  118. jas
    119 | September 9, 2009 5:43 pm

    re: #109 by vagabond trader

    “If you going carrying pictures of Chairman Mao, you ain’t going to make it with anyone, anyhow”

    John Lennon, by today’s standards, right of center.


  119. Bumr50
    120 | September 9, 2009 5:44 pm

    re: #112 by IslandLibertarian

    Now they know how many czars it takes to fill Obama’s hall…


  120. LGoPs
    121 | September 9, 2009 5:45 pm

    re: #113 by vagabond trader

    Thanks VT. It’s good to be here among friends.
    :)


  121. vagabond trader
    122 | September 9, 2009 5:46 pm

    re: #119 by jas

    Actually loved America fought tooth and nail to become a citizen.


  122. Former LGFer
    123 | September 9, 2009 5:46 pm

    re: #115 by Bumr50

    He’s incredibly boring despite his carnival barker-like affectations. His emptiness cements the package.


  123. IslandLibertarian
    124 | September 9, 2009 5:46 pm

    re: #118 by vagabond trader

    we love you toooo……..


  124. song_and_dance_man
    125 | September 9, 2009 5:46 pm

    We will provide you with a choice.

    Yeah right.

    His visceral railing against the capitalist co.’s is a bunch of bull


  125. LGoPs
    126 | September 9, 2009 5:46 pm

    Hey. I just heard him say he would personally make sure that no one got between me and the coverage I need. Ok, I’m sold.

    Must suck to be the rest of you.

    Nyuk, nyuk.


  126. Sparky
    127 | September 9, 2009 5:46 pm

    Now which is it? He said it is a choice but then it is mandatory. Aspirin please.


  127. Beltfed
    128 | September 9, 2009 5:47 pm

    Any mention of a chicken in every pot yet.


  128. 129 | September 9, 2009 5:47 pm

    “Kill the Czar.”~Lenin


  129. vagabond trader
    130 | September 9, 2009 5:48 pm

    re: #120 by Bumr50

    yeah yeah yeah yeah!


  130. song_and_dance_man
    131 | September 9, 2009 5:48 pm

    Who believes that his plan will not raise the deficit.

    There is not enough time to combat that with clear facts that can be found in his 7 months in office.


  131. jas
    132 | September 9, 2009 5:49 pm

    re: #122 by vagabond trader

    VT

    Have you read Bob Spitz’ biography on the Beatles? Oh, and even though I have the Anthology DVD set, I’ve still watched VH-1 all week.


  132. LGoPs
    133 | September 9, 2009 5:50 pm

    He’s gonna eliminate 100’s of billions in waste and fraud.

    Why the hell didn’t we think of that?

    Must be because he has that Ivy league education….


  133. Sparky
    134 | September 9, 2009 5:50 pm

    128 Beltfed

    No only a condom in every school lunch.


  134. vagabond trader
    135 | September 9, 2009 5:50 pm

    re: #126 by LGoPs

    The red pill or the blue one??


  135. song_and_dance_man
    136 | September 9, 2009 5:50 pm

    In summary. He wants to destroy another industry and bring it under total federal control.

    That is the essence of this speech.


  136. jas
    137 | September 9, 2009 5:51 pm

    By the way to those of you actually watching the swill, you are braver souls than I…the man makes my skin crawl.


  137. vagabond trader
    138 | September 9, 2009 5:52 pm

    re: #132 by jas

    Is it good? Have to get this set, lot of great memories of my childhood-teen years.


  138. Bumr50
    139 | September 9, 2009 5:52 pm

    re: #130 by vagabond trader

    Obeatles?


  139. vagabond trader
    140 | September 9, 2009 5:53 pm

    re: #133 by LGoPs

    Prove it!!


  140. LGoPs
    141 | September 9, 2009 5:53 pm

    re: #137 by jas

    Mine too. I’m listening on radio. Can’t watch his face.


  141. song_and_dance_man
    142 | September 9, 2009 5:54 pm

    And in another summary.

    We are too stupid to know what’s best for us, and he will guide us to better pastures.


  142. Former LGFer
    143 | September 9, 2009 5:54 pm

    re: #137 by jas

    Got the tv on in the other room. It’s about all I can take.


  143. Speranza
    144 | September 9, 2009 5:54 pm

    re: #20 by Rose

    is this in regards to the coffee spot?


  144. LGoPs
    145 | September 9, 2009 5:54 pm

    re: #140 by vagabond trader

    heh…


  145. IslandLibertarian
    146 | September 9, 2009 5:54 pm

    FREEEEEEEEEEEEE health care……….

    better yet ………just listen…….remember….


  146. Sparky
    147 | September 9, 2009 5:54 pm

    I need a red pill and a blue pill. Only 900 billion over ten years. Dream on bro.


  147. vagabond trader
    148 | September 9, 2009 5:55 pm

    re: #142 by song_and_dance_man

    Strawberry Fields Forever…..Go Red Sox!


  148. song_and_dance_man
    149 | September 9, 2009 5:55 pm

    re: #134 by Sparky

    A condom on every doctors finger. That is, if your qualified for the procedure.


  149. LGoPs
    150 | September 9, 2009 5:56 pm

    I’ve had enough. Gonna go try to get alcohol poisoning….

    See you all later.


  150. 151 | September 9, 2009 5:56 pm

    I’m watching this speech and let me say, the Republicans are cowards. When Obama insults them, they should boo him.


  151. jas
    152 | September 9, 2009 5:56 pm

    re: #138 by vagabond trader

    Yes, but be prepared, Lennon, McCartney and Harrison are treated as humans, not gods. The reason they were successful was ego and ruthless ambition. But, the stories are engrossing.


  152. song_and_dance_man
    153 | September 9, 2009 5:56 pm

    re: #148 by vagabond trader

    Living is easy with eyes closed. Misunderstanding all you see.


  153. Speranza
    154 | September 9, 2009 5:57 pm

    Just looking at Greasy Joe (Biden) and San Fran Nan sitting behind him makes me want to puke.


  154. vagabond trader
    155 | September 9, 2009 5:57 pm

    re: #150 by LGoPs

    Night LGoPs!


  155. Sparky
    156 | September 9, 2009 5:57 pm

    A very valuable economics lesson, up is down, right is left, all is good, I am right and you know it.
    // What a putz


  156. song_and_dance_man
    157 | September 9, 2009 5:57 pm

    O and go Dodgers


  157. mawskrat
    158 | September 9, 2009 5:58 pm

    re: #128 by Beltfed

    a potato in every pot …then to the gulag,you serf


  158. Speranza
    159 | September 9, 2009 5:58 pm

    re: #137 by jas

    I think I would rather watch Olbermann (well I guess not) than Obama.


  159. vagabond trader
    160 | September 9, 2009 5:59 pm

    re: #152 by jas

    Is this a fairly old book? I read a bio like that some years ago.


  160. waldensianspirit
    161 | September 9, 2009 5:59 pm

    I’m disappointed. I was patiently waiting to hear how he was going to upgrade the DMV and make it run as smoothly as the private sector runs health care. Should be easy since it is less complex. And how he was going to privatize the US postal service.


  161. Speranza
    162 | September 9, 2009 5:59 pm

    re: #157 by song_and_dance_man

    Yes Go Dodgers indeed!


  162. song_and_dance_man
    163 | September 9, 2009 5:59 pm

    He goes the Ted reference.

    I knew it. He would end with a Kennedy spiel.

    bingo


  163. IslandLibertarian
    164 | September 9, 2009 6:00 pm

    and as for those who keep asking you to give up what you have for the “poor”………..

    3Then Mary took about a pint[a] of pure nard, an expensive perfume; she poured it on Jesus’ feet and wiped his feet with her hair. And the house was filled with the fragrance of the perfume.

    4But one of his disciples, Judas Iscariot, who was later to betray him, objected, 5″Why wasn’t this perfume sold and the money given to the poor? It was worth a year’s wages.[b]” 6He did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a thief; as keeper of the money bag, he used to help himself to what was put into it.

    John:12


  164. vagabond trader
    165 | September 9, 2009 6:00 pm

    re: #163 by song_and_dance_man

    Heh. Its been a hard days night, see ya!


  165. orangecrush
    166 | September 9, 2009 6:00 pm

    re: #71 by Iron Fist

    The word teleprompter and variations of the spelling of OBama will get you on Charles bad list. He is tired of it.


  166. song_and_dance_man
    167 | September 9, 2009 6:02 pm

    re: #162 by Speranza

    I was SoCal all my life up to 4 years ago. I’m now 99 or thereabouts.


  167. orangecrush
    168 | September 9, 2009 6:03 pm

    re: #68 by jas

    Yep ACE nailed it. Welcome to 2.0.


  168. jas
    169 | September 9, 2009 6:03 pm

    re: #160 by vagabond trader

    I got it for Christmas three years ago I think…I’ve read it at least twice. I think it came out summer of 2006.


  169. vapig
    170 | September 9, 2009 6:03 pm

    re: #136 by song_and_dance_man

    Levin called him a job-killer.

    I can’t believe you guys are watching this!


  170. chickadee
    171 | September 9, 2009 6:03 pm

    re: #94 by LGoPs

    I agree. Congress should have the same health care plan we do.
    How ironic that these bastards, who are working for us, will have the best available for themselves , while they push the worst on us.
    That alone tells you everything.
    And btw, it is interesting how the fat decrepit Teddy Kennedy
    got all the possible procedures to give him the most time.
    Of course most 76 year old people will not get brain surgery. They will be told to go home and die.
    Kennedy’s grandchildren shilled that very plan at his funeral and in his name. Disgraceful.
    The left is monstrous in their selfishness and arrogance.


  171. song_and_dance_man
    172 | September 9, 2009 6:04 pm

    Am I the only one who notices there is no real enthusiasm even among the sitting socialists in that room?


  172. jas
    173 | September 9, 2009 6:04 pm

    re: #168 by orangecrush

    You waded through my drivel? Thanks!


  173. waldensianspirit
    174 | September 9, 2009 6:04 pm

    By not measuring pH along the way with a little litmus paper the government turned route 99 into a 7 year billion dollar environmental fiasco.
    http://www.pahighways.com/interstates/I99.html

    Now the workings of the human body involve much more than pH balance. What could go wrong with ObamaCare?


  174. Speranza
    175 | September 9, 2009 6:04 pm

    re: #167 by song_and_dance_man

    Brooklyn Dodgers was my Dad’s team.


  175. Speranza
    176 | September 9, 2009 6:06 pm

    re: #170 by vapig

    selrahC trumpeted some statistics that the recession is over. If so, lets go see Sharmuta get a job!


  176. Beltfed
    177 | September 9, 2009 6:06 pm

    Just turned on TV to Fox and the first commercial after the speech, The Canadian health care disaster.


  177. 178 | September 9, 2009 6:07 pm

    Prez is speaking? Line-up for C BS says Criminal Minds is on, oh wait it is.


  178. Former LGFer
    179 | September 9, 2009 6:07 pm

    re: #166 by orangecrush

    The word teleprompter and variations of the spelling of OBama will get you on Charles bad list. He is tired of it.

    Wow. Then why bother to have any commenters at all?


  179. Sparky
    180 | September 9, 2009 6:08 pm

    re: #172 by song_and_dance_man
    The pants suit barely moved. This is just grist for her 2010 run when this mess materializes.


  180. jas
    181 | September 9, 2009 6:09 pm

    re: #176 by Speranza

    We’ll just ignore the specter of hyperinflation headed this way.


  181. 182 | September 9, 2009 6:09 pm

    Wow. I can’t believe the President of the United States just cited the moral authority of Splash Kennedy in support of the latest boondoggle.


  182. Sparky
    183 | September 9, 2009 6:09 pm

    re: #179 by Former LGFer
    Probably just to fill the spaces in while he takes his next bong hit.


  183. Bumr50
    184 | September 9, 2009 6:09 pm

    re: #178 by BenZacharia

    Statistics are against the unsub being an American. Look for a foreigner.

    /


  184. Former LGFer
    185 | September 9, 2009 6:09 pm

    re: #69 by BenZacharia

    First lie “My Fellow Americans.”

    Or was it “Good eveining”

    Last lie “God bless America.”


  185. vapig
    186 | September 9, 2009 6:09 pm

    re: #176 by Speranza

    Levin also said that if the recession is over cancel the bleeping stimulous!


  186. orangecrush
    187 | September 9, 2009 6:10 pm

    re: #179 by Former LGFer

    There are a lot of commenters there getting their balls snipped off.


  187. chickadee
    188 | September 9, 2009 6:10 pm

    I can’t take the voice. CAN NOT TAKE THE VOICE. He is such a low life gutter thug radical leftist dunce. And he was elected to the highest office of the land. It is such a cruel joke.


  188. song_and_dance_man
    189 | September 9, 2009 6:10 pm

    re: #170 by vapig

    Seriously I have a headache coming on from having to listen to that.

    It was filled with tripe and lies. It will be vetted in the days to come. Nothing much was said that is new.

    He did attack us, that is we, who oppose it. I was honored in a sense that we were acknowledged.

    What I found really interesting is I saw no steam from sweat coming from the TOTUS. But it was keep off camera, yet a whiff of it billowing onto the screen would have been nice to see.


  189. lobo91
    190 | September 9, 2009 6:10 pm

    re: #172 by song_and_dance_man

    The socialists are pissed because he didn’t announce the creation of a complete government takeover of the healthcare system like they did in the UK.


  190. 191 | September 9, 2009 6:12 pm

    So, where exactly did selrahC recieve his M.A. in economics? Can’t wait to hear the idiot defend the concept of a jobless recovery.


  191. Former LGFer
    192 | September 9, 2009 6:12 pm

    re: #188 by chickadee

    It’s a terrible thing.


  192. Bumr50
    193 | September 9, 2009 6:12 pm

    re: #188 by chickadee

    We’ll see who gets the last laugh.

    g’night all!


  193. song_and_dance_man
    194 | September 9, 2009 6:12 pm

    re: #175 by Speranza

    I lived in LA all my life and by consequence are my team. Never liked the Angels. They were over there in OC.


  194. 195 | September 9, 2009 6:13 pm

    “You old people…” TOTUS is pissed! ROFLMAO!


  195. Sparky
    196 | September 9, 2009 6:14 pm

    Did anyone else notice when he said to Seniors, “I want to look you in the eye and tell you…” He leaned forward and quickly stared straight ahead for the only time then quickly averted his eyes to the TELEPROMPTER as his words do not come from the heart. Shallow man syndrome.


  196. song_and_dance_man
    197 | September 9, 2009 6:14 pm

    re: #180 by Sparky

    She is most likely pissed that her pantsuit couldn’t take her pet as far as the one who defeated her has.


  197. 198 | September 9, 2009 6:15 pm

    Bumr..

    Heh


  198. lobo91
    199 | September 9, 2009 6:16 pm

    So, he’s going to pay for his plan by cutting down on waste and fraud in Medicare.

    Then, we’ll create a new program that’s 10 times the size of Medicare.

    How much waste and fraud will be in that?

    This is like discussing economics with my Sheltie…


  199. Toodles
    200 | September 9, 2009 6:16 pm

    My husband and I have been paying out of our pocket for 18 years for our health insurance, we own our own business. And I am glad to write that check. Health insurance is not a right that our government should give us. Sure I could spend that money as a new car payment, for a vacation, etc. but I don’t. It is OUR responsibilty, not some freebie that my fellow taxpayers must subsidize for us.

    Rant off.


  200. davehm
    201 | September 9, 2009 6:17 pm

    re: #176 by Speranza

    If that were the case I would like to see them all get jobs.


  201. Speranza
    202 | September 9, 2009 6:18 pm

    re: #194 by song_and_dance_man

    The Angels are the only team the past 13 years not intimidated by the Yankees.


  202. vapig
    203 | September 9, 2009 6:18 pm

    re: #189 by song_and_dance_man

    Just heard my first clip from it – there were actual BOOOOOOOOS coming from the room when he said no illegals would be covered. Interesting!

    He must really think we’re idiots! DO’H! I forgot – he DOES think we’re all idiots! That’s why we need his gentle guidance shoved down our throats!


  203. song_and_dance_man
    204 | September 9, 2009 6:19 pm

    re: #190 by lobo91

    Ha The TOTUS is with him in the green room whipping him for going off script.


  204. Speranza
    205 | September 9, 2009 6:23 pm

    re: #201 by davehm

    Particularly Killgore Trout and St. Irish Rose.


  205. vapig
    206 | September 9, 2009 6:24 pm

    Well – this has been fun – just like the old days.

    You all have a great evening!

    Good night and God Bless you all!


  206. song_and_dance_man
    207 | September 9, 2009 6:27 pm

    re: #202 by Speranza

    True. I went to the 3rd game of the Yankee Dodger WS back in 77. IIRC the Yankees won that series but not the game I saw.


  207. chickadee
    208 | September 9, 2009 6:27 pm

    Zero used God twice yesterday in his speech to ingratiate himself with school children. The MSM and the left would have eviscerated Pres. Bush if he had done that.
    Zero just gets a nod and a smile from his sycophants and parasites.
    Who also didn’t raise an eyebrow when Zero instructed religious leaders to pray that his Health Care grab succeeds.
    He is flailing and really desperate in this transparent attempt to con spiritual people. It is also insulting to religious people after he called them “bible clingers’.
    He is such an asshole.


  208. mawskrat
    209 | September 9, 2009 6:30 pm

    damn…I’m a retired state employee and I like my insurance just the way it is thankyou


  209. davehm
    210 | September 9, 2009 6:31 pm

    I didn’t watch (no t.v.) did TOTUS create a bunch of straw man arguments?


  210. 211 | September 9, 2009 6:32 pm

    chick…

    2 different gods


  211. Speranza
    212 | September 9, 2009 6:35 pm

    re: #208 by chickadee

    Zero used God twice yesterday in his speech to ingratiate himself with school children.

    selrahC probably was not happy about that!


  212. davehm
    213 | September 9, 2009 6:36 pm

    re: #211 by BenZacharia

    You got that right, I had posted on an earlier thread some weeks ago that the god he talks about isn’t the God of the bible.


  213. Speranza
    214 | September 9, 2009 6:36 pm

    re: #207 by song_and_dance_man

    Yankees won games 1 3, 4 and 6 of that Series.
    Dodgers won games 2 and 5

    The Dodgers actually out homered the Yanks in that World series (despite all the Reggie Jackson home runs).


  214. 215 | September 9, 2009 6:40 pm

    1.0 humour

    Some people like to eat frogs’ legs. Chuck Norris likes to eat lizard legs. Hence, snakes.


  215. 216 | September 9, 2009 6:43 pm

    dave..

    he and 692g have the same god


  216. davehm
    217 | September 9, 2009 6:45 pm

    re: #216 by BenZacharia

    692g? sorry I’m a little slow


  217. Bill Jenkins
    218 | September 9, 2009 6:48 pm

    I hope Kenneth finds his way to LGF. He was one of the good ones… Too good for LGF, of course.

    Once again: I welcome all the new users here that I may have missed as the exodus continues from the now-progressive blog run by Chuckles the Clown.


  218. davehm
    219 | September 9, 2009 6:51 pm

    re: #218 by Bill Jenkins

    Why do people hang out there? are they that sick?


  219. 220 | September 9, 2009 6:51 pm

    Dave…

    Ch*mpion692g local commie poster


  220. song_and_dance_man
    221 | September 9, 2009 6:52 pm

    re: #208 by chickadee

    Yes. In his speech yesterday -and I’m repeating myself again- B. Hussein forwarded the blessing of God (who his god is is yet to be determined) to the children of America and to America itself from a CLASSROOM setting.

    So much for the lefts idea of separating church from state – a thing I disagree with.

    The hypocrisy of the left runs deep and is close to touching hell.


  221. davehm
    222 | September 9, 2009 6:53 pm

    re: #220 by BenZacharia

    Ohhh..that guy, of course.


  222. song_and_dance_man
    223 | September 9, 2009 6:54 pm

    re: #214 by Speranza

    It was so long ago. It may have been the 5th game I went to.

    Oh and BTW, my sister (this may be another way for CJ to out more) has been a head usher there at Dodger stadium for years now. At least 20.


  223. davehm
    224 | September 9, 2009 6:55 pm

    re: #221 by song_and_dance_man

    The left knows it’s not the God of the bible, therefore no threat.


  224. Speranza
    225 | September 9, 2009 6:57 pm

    re: #186 by vapig

    Levin also said that if the recession is over cancel the bleeping stimulus!
    Amen Sister Vapig. The porkulus was designed for state and local governments (and civil service jobs), not for us.


  225. quiet man
    226 | September 9, 2009 6:58 pm

    re: #219 by davehm

    Hard to see the rules changing and ones own descent into pettiness… until the epiphany happens and you suddenly see charles for who he really is. Smarter ones (than I, at least) see it before they are banned…Most get banned, suffer the insults of charles, then the silence concerning ones account, and only then become aware of the charade they themselves participated in.
    Next is anger.

    It is hard to leave somewhere you call home..especially when deprived by whim and then insult on top of it.


  226. Speranza
    227 | September 9, 2009 6:58 pm

    re: #223 by song_and_dance_man

    The douche nozzle already outed you – so has it changed your life? What a pathetic hag he is!


  227. 228 | September 9, 2009 6:58 pm

    HOW TO START EACH DAY WITH A POSITIVE OUTLOOK
    1. Open a new file in your computer.
    2. Name it “Barack Obama.”
    3. Send it to the Recycle Bin.
    4. Empty the Recycle Bin.
    5. Your PC will ask you: “Do you really want to get rid of “Barack Obama?”
    6. Firmly Click “Yes.”
    7. Feel better?
    GOOD! – Tomorrow we’ll do Nancy Pelosi.


  228. song_and_dance_man
    229 | September 9, 2009 7:00 pm

    re: #224 by davehm

    Aint it the truth. They serve another even though they invoke God as though whom they serve is the One best known by those who agree with Abraham and Moses.


  229. Bill Jenkins
    230 | September 9, 2009 7:01 pm

    re: #219 by davehm

    After going to the same blog for a long time, it becomes like an online home to some. It is really difficult for some to up and move… You get used to the comment system, the people, etc.

    Of course the people AND the comment system at LGF f’n sucks.

    But some won’t leave for well past the time they should… then an epiphany and they’ll realize “WTF was I doing for so long?!?!”

    I do not blame those people for sticking around. Even family events have the family drunk invited a few too many times before people start asking if they will attend the next party and making plans to attend accordingly.


  230. davehm
    231 | September 9, 2009 7:02 pm

    re: #228 by BenZacharia

    but they’re like a virus you can delete and delete and it doesn’t go away.


  231. song_and_dance_man
    232 | September 9, 2009 7:06 pm

    re: #227 by Speranza

    Not one bit. There are or were many on that site that knew me by my real name and what I believe.

    It bothers me not in the slightest. But I am teed that Charles would lie and say to his sycophants that I emailed him after my banning with warnings that he was being ‘watched’. As though I was stalking him.

    He lied about that, and is further proof that he wants any who may come here to be wary of the boogie men who may corrupt those who leave him and find us here as maniacs.

    Boo. beware. We are crazed, ala more crazed than him.

    His rocker is tired of him and wants him off.


  232. davehm
    233 | September 9, 2009 7:10 pm

    re: #230 by Bill Jenkins

    I understand, some people have posted there for years and had established relationships with others and it’s sad but for those who have registered this past year or so I just don’t see any point in hanging out.


  233. Knightwatch
    234 | September 9, 2009 7:48 pm

    re: #233 by davehm

    I understand. I am a former member of that “home”. As the days progress, I see fewer, and fewer people that I know and had a grand time with. Some have been blocked/banned/given the stick, the rest just don’t comment any more. I have stepped in the river, and it has moved on.


  234. Runner
    235 | September 9, 2009 7:55 pm

    Well, after all the bummer news today I can rest a little easier now that the Red Sox beat Baltimore.


  235. CloudyDay
    236 | September 9, 2009 8:43 pm

    re: #69 by BenZacharia

    First lie “My Fellow Americans.”
    Or was it “Good eveining”

    Ha ha, funny! (I mean that, that was not sarcasm. Your post made me grin)

    I spent the last day or two trying to avoid the Obama speech to school kids, but every time I channel surf lately, every network (including FOX cable) has been repeating snippets of it.


  236. OKshoot
    237 | September 9, 2009 8:55 pm

    re: #188 by chickadee

    Chickadee my dear, you always get right to the point. I like your turn of phrase. Also, cannot bear looking at him or hearing his voice. It is nasty and scary.


  237. 238 | September 9, 2009 9:51 pm

    144. Speranza on 9 September, 2009 at 5:54 pm reply
    re: #20 by Rose
    is this in regards to the coffee spot?

    Yep. Irish Rose came in to level her threats. But I am done with this guy and his threatening us and all of you, whose only “crime” was that you registered there and dared to have an opinion, dared to post comments at other blogs, dared to link to interesting blogs – what right does he have to tell ANYONE who they can visit, talk to, link to, what they can and cannot say?

    He spends all his time on the threads like a hunter with a gun trained on the rabbits – he taunts and castigates, sneers and derides before pouncing, and thinks it is amusing, if tiring.

    It isn’t funny. It might have been playful once upon a time, and the next day he let you back in and bygones were bygones – I don’t know, it seems that way from reading the history and the dictionary there that it was once a playful place, with lush gardens, now it is laden with barbed wire and landmines, and has turned dark and creepy.


  238. Aussie Infidel
    239 | September 9, 2009 11:08 pm

    The New York Times explains why it missed the Van Jones Commie Truther story:
    One reason was that our Washington bureau was somewhat short-staffed during the height of the pre-Labor Day vacation period.
    The bureau evidently remained short-staffed for some considerable period.
    The ‘Olde Grey Whore”’s crack team of investigative reporters was still rifling through Sarah Palin’s garbage in Alaska.

    :)


  239. 240 | September 9, 2009 11:14 pm

    Hello to all those in banned camp. I brought apple cider for the teachers. Try some, it’s insidiously tasty.

    My story -

    I’ve been in the blogosphere since 2001 tracking Sullivan and then Asparagirl (”Yuppies of Zion”, now). I started blogging in 2002 and soon fell into LGF. Charles subsequently instituted registration, but I wasn’t too keen on joining at first, as at the time it was too strident for me. I registered 2007 when it looked to be becoming more moderate. I cheered a good deal of the initial bannings and generally thought little of the bannees. On other occasions I argued against Charles. Search this site for “Zimriel” and you will find a point where 2.0 noticed that I did it.

    I thought that I was living proof that King Charles allowed principled dissent in his realm. I thought that siding with him on almost all of his crusades, and giving him the benefit of the doubt on the rest of them, would be enough.

    I was wrong.

    In late June, Charles decided that constitutional government in Honduras was not worth his time. I declared his blog “anti-conservative” on 30 June. For that I took in 10 downdings, starting with avanti. Then I got the king’s “adieu”.

    An aside here: Understand that I had invested a lot of time and emotion refining arguments and digging up scoops for that site. I defended Charles on other sites and cut off several online associations over the various blogwars he engaged in.

    Even after all of that, I was going to keep defending Charles; on the theory that at least now I could do it without people dismissing me as an LGF tool. But then this Van Jones thing cropped up. Then the remnant LGFers attacked Zombie.

    I’m not here looking for friends. (I said more or less as much at the Table 9 chat.) I’m not asking for absolution as Depeche Mode once put it.

    But I would like to register that I’m one more voice in solidarity with you on this much: that Charles has caused damage to his own credibility, has set back his own causes (some of which I still agree with), and has made his own defenders look like schmucks.


  240. bluliner10
    241 | September 9, 2009 11:21 pm

    re: #238 by Rose

    Rose your description is spot on. Kind of like a cyber Pyong Yang with Kim Chuck Il sitting in his big house making virtual life and death decisions…


  241. bluliner10
    242 | September 9, 2009 11:41 pm

    Welcome Zimriel,

    No worries! Freedom to debate is what we want, currently we are primarily a collection of conservative exiles, both voluntarily or by selrahC, but we welcome dialogue. Comments may be deleted, but I don’t think anybody has been shown the door Elian Gonzalez style.

    It is everything that we who had been a part of the blog that shan’t be named without the upanddowndings and karma crap. If somebody has an opinion good, bad or neutral, just say it. Dings, what a silly ass way to rate a comment


  242. Speranza
    243 | September 10, 2009 6:53 am

    re: #240 by Zimriel

    Zimriel welcome! I also know that you probably regret referring to us as insidious bad apples – we are definitely not and everyone makes mistakes! I witnessed your banning and you said nothing that deserved a banning – only pointed out the obvious – that LGF was an anti conservative blog. Anyway I hope you stick around here, it will remind you of the old LGF.

    Why would people keep defending Charles after he unceremoniously (and quite rudely) banned then? Interesting psychological proposition.


  243. Speranza
    244 | September 10, 2009 7:04 am

    re: #238 by Rose

    He is a nasty piece of work and his threats cannot harm us at all. As for Irish Rose, I wish that I was in the chat room when she popped her ugly face in, she would have regretted it! What did people say to her?


  244. Robert Spencer
    245 | September 10, 2009 7:34 am

    Re #240 Zimriel:

    “Even after all of that, I was going to keep defending Charles…”

    I myself was late to the party. The first year that Johnson embarked on his smear campaign against the European anti-jihadists and those he associated with them (rightly and wrongly) in America, I tried to stay out of it.

    But there is a lateness to the party that manifests a moral myopia that is extremely severe. After what Johnson did (and does) to Pamela Geller, his jihad against Glenn Beck, his lies about Ann Coulter, and on and on and on, for someone to say “even after all of that, I was going to keep defending Charles” is like the defiant fascist salute Ezra Pound gave when he returned to Italy in 1958.

    In other words, by that time it was easy to be on the right side, and those who were still on the wrong side were suffering from profound disabilities of judgment and moral sense.


  245. Speranza
    246 | September 10, 2009 7:40 am

    re: #245 by Robert Spencer

    Mr. Spencer I bought two of your books
    Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam and the Crusades, and Religion of Peace? CJ is not fit to criticize your scholarship.


  246. 247 | September 10, 2009 10:44 am

    What did people say to her?

    Nothing. She popped in on a quiet morning, delivered her little missive, and promptly left.

    What you all say about becoming friends is exactly right. A bunch of us were banned for updinging Eric Cartman’s Conscience, and we found a way to reconnect. We opened our own “Lounge” and set about finding lost friends and making new ones. We, like The Blogmocracy, are a refuge for those who have been banned, and a place to touch base with people you knew and liked from your time at LGF. (btw – Some did email Charles for an explanation, none received an answer)

    No one ‘hates” Charles – in fact, we credit him for the once great blog he had, and the fact that, were it not for him, we might never have met. But no one likes what they are seeing over there now, with the brutal treatment of visitors and ex-”Lizards,” and the strained silence and psycho-phantic behavior and complicity of those remaining.

    It’s often said that it is his blog and he has a right to do what he wants – and no one disputes that. But he has no right to attack and denigrate his readers for visiting other blogs, linking other blogs, or having other online nics. Geez. It is a blog. No blood-loyalty oaths required.

    LIke I said, Sharmuta (who posted about this on LGF) – Leave. Us. Alone. No one is stalking you. No one cares if you love LGF. More power to you. Leave. Us. Alone.


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