Obama insulted the Republican Party during his speech today. He bashed them for “lying” and “cutting taxes for the rich.” Most Republicans stayed there like cowards and said nothing. One brave soul did stand up. Rep. Joe Wilson (R-SC) stood up and called Obama a liar.
WASHINGTON – The nastiness of August reached from the nation’s town halls into the U.S. Capitol on Wednesday as President Barack Obama tried to move his health care plan forward.
South Carolina Republican Rep. Joe Wilson shouted “You lie!” after Obama had talked about illegal immigrants.
Read the rest.
I salute Rep Wilson as a brave man for standing up to this Fascist thug. Obama is a Totalitarian Radical and tonight he showed his colors. It is a political war for the Progressive Movement and Conservatives/Libertarians need to realize this. We must not back down, but resist this regime by exposing its lies.
The good news is the 2010 Midterm elections are a year and two months away. From now until election night, we must hammer Obama and the Progressive movement daily. Without mercy or respect shown to them. They are liars and have a nasty agenda of control. Only we can put a stop to this. Remember, just 14 Moths until 2010. Then we can vote to stop this Cryto-Dictatorship.
Update: Here is the video of Obama being called a liar.
Update II: I found a Chavez Speech with English Translations. His speech reminds me of Obama’s speaking style. They bot are cut from the same radical cloth.
Tags: 201o Elections, Rep. Joe Wilson
I’m a brave FIRST poster. B. Hussein is a liar.
Oh wait I need facts. OK. B. Hussein is what he is.
Speaking truth to power is no longer operative.
It’s now “nastiness.” Your betters have spoken.
OMG! I love this guy. I have a new hero.
You go JOE!
Van Jones was unavailable for comment.
Karl Rove made an excellent point on O’Reilly after the speech: If they actually know where there’s $300 billion worth of fraud and waste in the Medicare system, why don’t they go get that money now?
Did you see the grimace on Pelosi’s face?
Best of all?
It was true – Obama WAS lying!
The look of horror on Granny Botox’s face is….priceless! And, nice to see there’s a Republican, aside from Sarah Palin and Dick Cheney, with a spine.
re: #2 by Infidel
Nastiness is the common modus operandi of the left. When the left or wrong can’t fight the fallacy that is beholden by them and sequestered within their ranks, then frame the opposition with the very thing they hold so dear. Lies, hate and every other evil thing.
re: #8 by jas
I’m amazed that she didn’t try to order the Sergeant at Arms to have him beheaded.
Pelosi and Biden both got that kodak moment on their face, priceless!
Well, this will be my first post here. Didn’t think it would ever happen. I think that the direction of health care reform the states is taking is going to doom you folks to the looters and scabs. Best of luck in fighting it. You guys are going to need it.
And to think John McCain would chastise anyone who had the guts to call B. Hussein out as a liar.
Is it no wonder why he is not now the POTUS.
Is it just me, or is anyone else noticing over at LGF, CJ is busting up his own thread by posting over and over:
- I guess I’m a RINO
- RINO!
- You’re a RINO
- ///// sarc
- /////////
- RINO!
- Stop don’t say that, that would make you a RINO!
- I thought the speech was good, but quiet, I might be a RINO
- //
- sarc
- RINO
and so on
Even his leftist tool cult followers can’t get a word in edgewise. Every time someone types something, he goes berzerk with the “RINO” stuff.
And what is with those f*#&king ///sarc tags anyway? Does nobody at LGF understand that if you have to TELL someone you’re being sarcastic, it’s a fail?
re: #13 by song_and_dance_man
“You have nothing to fear about an Obama presidency”…dumba$$
re: #12 by Knightwatch
On behalf of the 2.0 nation I offer this laurel and hearty handshake.
/for what it’s worth I greet all new and old comers in the same manner.
Greetings and welcome in sincerity.
I hope Rep. Joe Wilson is straight and doesn’t have some shady part or conspiracy theories. They are going to destroy him.
dude
I heard Maui Wowwie gives ya the giggles
‘nite all 3:30 just around the corner.
*read my comment below*….I don’t know WHAT happened. I must’ve pressed submit too soon.
re: #15 by jas
The whole speech was in summary. I can do better for you if you let me take down another industry and nationalize it. And it you disagree with me then you are beholden to the lies that the right is spewing.
re: #16 by song_and_dance_man
Thank you. I was terrified to look at this site originally. Over the past couple of weeks though, I have found it to be not as EVIL as I was told. God, what has become of this world.
He lied about Obamascare not paying for abortions either. There’s more than one way to skin a cat, and they’ll get in their culture of death one way or another. Same goes for rationing care for the elderly. He said it himself….just give em’ a pain pill.
I’LL say it…LIIIIAAARRRRRR!!!!!
re: #12 by Knightwatch
Welcome, it will be a hard fight. They have a Machine, the best shot will be 2010, then in 2012, Vote out Obama and Progressives Junta.
Rep. Joe “Got Balls” Wilson, “You lie”.
The three Stooges are stunned and Pelosi catches flies with her open mouth
re: #21 by song_and_dance_man
Which makes this speech different from any of the past, oh, 675, how? I, for the life of me, do not understand the cult that has been built up around this man?
re: #24 by Rodan
Ummm, I can’t vote. Something about being a citizen and all. I can still cheer for the Right, right?
They’re going to fire up the smear machine on this guy…steaks ready gotta go.
re: #22 by Knightwatch
The propaganda was strong with this one, glad he was able to break away…welcome…Charlie, your swastika is still showing…
re: #25 by Beltfed
LOL
re: #28 by davehm
And, the squishy supposedly on our side will help in the whole process.
re: #27 by Knightwatch
Well, the reality is that we only enforce that silly citizenship requirement for people who might vote for Republicans.
If they think you’re likely to vote for Democrats, it doesn’t matter if you’re even alive (or human, for that matter).
re: #22 by Knightwatch
Evil, as in not bowing down before the clown-king?
re: #27 by Knightwatch
YES. You can vote with your heart and your mind and you can always give your perspective with your voice.
Welcome!
You mean I missed all that speech cause I was watching tennis?
Thank you God.
I am such a racist!
Obama As Father Knows BestSo far Obama has helped us buy a car, told us to sneeze in to our sleeves, told us to study hard and he’s even given us a check in the mail! These are questions I want to know here at http://www.BarackObama.tv .
Is this the president of the United States, or is he now America’s dad? Every time I hear him speak I’m ready to say, “Yes dad!”
Listen, I appreciate that he cares, but dad is supposed to help me buy a car. Dad and mom can tell me to sneeze in to my sleeve and wash my hands. The parental units can even send me a check in the mail if I’m low on money!
“President” Obama here’s what I want you to do. Keep our military strong. Protect us from enemies foreign and domestic. And by domestic enemies, I don’t mean people who listen to Glenn Beck or carry a gun. Secure our borders while you’re at it.
I don’t know how the office of commander and chief got turned in to the office of, “hey kiddos wash your hands and let me give you a cash advance.”
Obama, please just go in to hiding. Go play golf. Spend time doing elitist things that presidents with too much time on their hands should be doing. After you’re done being briefed on foreign and domestic enemies, you have my permission to go do very elitist stuff.
That would be a comfort to me, because when I know you’re eating caviar and laughing at lame New Yorker comics that make no sense, I can rest at peace knowing that you’re not growing government and trampling our freedoms.
So ‘dad’, take a vacation from ‘governing’. Tip back some red wine, enjoy the caviar and let us enjoy our freedom.
This man is a HERO! in the hearts and minds of millions of Americans. FINALLY, someone who had the Balls to stand up and tell the TRUTH to Президент Оба́ма, Joe The Biden™, and Диктор Пелоси!
And Senator McCain? Frak him, I am most definitely voting his ass OUT in the 2010 Primary. RUN JD RUN!
re: #17 by Rodan
And of course the 18th century “gentleman” McCain has already spoken out against him . It was that same softness that ruined his campaign against Obama and stifled Palin’s attacks against him. He needs to stop worrying about being “disrespctful” and START speaking truth to power. That dude Joe has nads that will go down in history. Much respect.
re: #22 by Knightwatch
You’re welcome. We are not, as you have found, evil.
On a level front, we are tackling the relevant issues of the day and have no problem with taking the left and liars to task, whomever they may be. And if you have been reading that goes for any who we may have had previous associations with.
We are anathema to the wasted vanguard.
re: #32 by lobo91
re: #34 by tuffy
I won’t go into too many details here(the walls have eyes). Let’s just say that there are many reasons why I can’t vote republican. I still vote right when and where I can.
Money must be getting getting tight over at Bedlam.
(copy and paste the link)
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/showc/613/7679438
/snicker
re: #24 by Rodan
No problem, I accept overseas support. You are fighting the Transnational Progressives as well. This is a worldwide movement.
re: #41 by Bordm
He’s got his tin cup out again. Pathetic. How bout’ go mow some lawns – work off that ponch.
double snicker
re: #41 by Bordm
There were a few statements like that tonight by several posters. Funny, most of them seemed to have only that left wing.
Oh and there is this little gem.
In keeping with the spirit of this thread.
LIAR
Don’t use his paypal link, he’ll out you if you pi$$ him off. And you know you will, you’re breathing.
re: #45 by Bordm
*joining in the chorus*
LIIIIIIIIIIIAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Hey charles, remember “M”???? Yeah….we do. Who’s the liar now??
re: #26 by jas
It would take an whole essay to lay out why so many are enamored of him.
Let’s just say the world knows its own.
As a servant of God I look at the world from that perspective.
“They are from the world and therefore speak from the viewpoint of the world, and the world listens to them.”
Someone got to Joe:
“This evening I let my emotions get the best of me when listening to the President’s remarks regarding the coverage of illegal immigrants in the health care bill. While I disagree with the President’s statement, my comments were inappropriate and regrettable. I extend sincere apologies to the President for this lack of civility.”
The Chicago mafia paid him a visit.
re: #48 by song_and_dance_man
I guess that also explains those of us that don’t.
Did you all see Roses calling out the irish bitch? go here, scroll down to Roses comment. you can’t miss it.
oh, and if you want to really tell Joe Wilson you support him, go to his home page from http://www.house.gov. can’t get there right now though! it’s overloaded! gotta love that!
re: #51 by Kirly
He is a brave man. In wish the rest of the GOP had called him out. He attacked them, they should of gave him no respect.
re: #45 by Bordm
Pants on fire liar.
Just as an aside note, I REALLY appreciate the “edit” feature.
re: #45 by Bordm
But yet he has revealed personal info that any moral person would think would be privy between a blog master *cough* and those who visit his site.
Note: Charles himself revealed personal info of many that are no longer there after they were banned. And if that were not enough we just so happen to post here now.
What an aladam coincidence that is.
re: #49 by newsjunkie_ky
Call from Rahm.
re: #53 by m
Hello there!
re: #50 by jas
It explains a lot.
re: #49 by newsjunkie_ky
The damage is done.
I wish the republicans had just got up in mass and walked out.
Apparently the Rs did not get copies of the speech (which is protocal) but ‘talking points’.
Barack HUSSEIN Obama is a f*cking liar.
re: #51 by Kirly
That was fantastic.
re: #60 by newsjunkie_ky
Or chucked s shoe or three.
(it’s a joke, idiot lurking loozards!)
re: #62 by m
I’m done with those Stalkers. I’m focusing on Obama and the Progressive Movement.
re: #60 by newsjunkie_ky
Who can we trust? The D’s the R’s. I have no proof that can nail each or everyone of them but I can without doubt call B. Hussein a liar.
Unless he has abandoned his choice of associations.
Frank Marshall Davis (an admitted communist and pedophile)
William Ayers
Rev. Wright and his radical Black Liberation theology)
Rezco and Auchi (Auchi being a former Saddam henchman)
Henry Louis Gates
Van Jones
parents
grandparents
Father Pflegar
Rashid Khalidi
Farrakhan
Soros
Cass Sunstein
John Holdren
Cornel West
Bernardine Dohrn
Chicago New Party
ACORN
Samantha Power
Susan Rice
Robert O’Malley
Emanuel twins
Mark Lloyd
Devil Patrick
Reid
Pelosi
The Clintons
Ted Kennedy (expost facto)
Hilda Solis-sec of labor
Janet Napolitano-Homeland Security
Tim Geitner-sec of Treas.
SEIU, NEA,unions
Michelle Obama
Ali Abunimah
Axelrod
The Biden Crime Family
Eric Holder
Valerie Jarret
re: #62 by m
Hi m
I just sent Joe an atta boy email. He only did what most only wished they could do. Call the dude on it.
Hey Dark Falcon, you can report back now to your libtard friends.
re: #54 by jas
Yes, the drinker I get, morer I use it.
And after the puke fest tonight, I’ll be using it often.
re: #64 by song_and_dance_man
You forgot Carol Browner
re: #62 by m
Or a big ass free for all brawl like the Taiwanese legislators often do.
re: #38 by tuffy
McCain! my senator is a dumbass! all he’s going to do is “reach across the aisle” to his friends. I got him on tape saying just that. he’s looking for a bill he can sign onto for his legacy. he makes me sick. but NO ONE in AZ politics will challenge him. NO ONE!
re: #65 by Sparky
I think I’ll do the same.
LIAR! I don’t hear people on the right screaming to end employee based coverage. What is he talking about? It’s what they are trying to save by resisting the public option that will be cheaper for those employers to dump everyone on!
re: #41 by Bordm
That’s such a beautiful thing! hopefully he’ll be shut down by the end of the year. if not sooner.
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Love the reaction from Nancy Pelosi after Joe Wilson called Obama on the lie. How shocking somebody would call a spade a spade!
re: #49 by newsjunkie_ky
doesn’t even matter that he apologized. everyone heard, or will hear via youtube, the “LIE” yell. the apology statement just won’t have the same effect.
re: #67 by jas
Thanks. The next list was compiled by vagabond, jas and I.
Obama climate czar has socialist ties
re: #64 by song_and_dance_man
It is shocking to look at that long list of leftist, commie, anit-american scum that Zero has in his inner circle of friends and
cohorts.
Most Americans wouldn’t even have one pos like that in their lives.
And the MSM glossed over this groups of traitors and presented many of them as fine upstanding people.
LIAR!
We’re recovering IN SPITE of the zero, not because of him.
re: #44 by Knightwatch
Charles is only really perky when he is talking to the left wingers on 1.0. The logical right wingers get him down.
re: #63 by Rodan
Yep, time spent on 1.0 is not too productive. I am only there for the soap opera.
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re: #72 by Morgan
Banned big time!
//Just kidding, we got nuance and common sense.
re: #74 by song_and_dance_man
Happy to help…again, judge him by the people he associates with…I just remembered another…Odinga, his Marxist cousin.
re: #76 by m
FIFY
is this guy a plumber in a past life ?
way to go Joe !!!!
re: #79 by Sparky
yes, and I am here now, to tell the truth as it should be told
re: #76 by m
We are not out of the woods yet.
LMAO!!!! Right wing terrorist at their finest. You all are in rare form tonight that you would actually celebrate an idiot who would lose all professionalism and yell out like some idiot heckler in the middle of the Presidents address. Twisted is an understatement.
Anyway without question Republicans and Conservatives were served tonight. You could tell how bad the verbally lashing was the President gave because of the butt hurt expressions on almost every republican face. McConnell looked like he wanted to cry, Boenor looked like he wanted to shit, and McCain just looked lost. And then the crown jewel of the night, the dumbass Rep who yelled out like a little school girl cuz he knew the scare tactics he’s been using the past 4 weeks were fully destroyed by the Pres.
I’m loving life right now because a black man, YES A BLACK MAN, A BLACK PRESIDENT, is going to do what no President has been able to do before him and thats provide affordable healthcare for all.
Right-wing terrorists you can forget about your leaders trying to mount a comeback, they’re too bitch made to stand up in front of real force, and like Obama said “THEY WILL BE CALLED OUT.” I loved that line.
I’ma sleep good tonight, wish I could say the same for republicans, lol.
LET THE FLAME WAR BEGIN BUT REMEMBER(OMG I’m laughin so hard I can barely type), THE RIGHTEOUS CAUSE WILL ALWAYS PREVAIL, YOU EVIL BITCHES.
PUBLIC PLAN OPTION FOR ALL!!!!!!!!! JUST SAY NO TO RIGHT-WING TERRORISTS!!!!!!!!!!! OBAMA IN 12!!!!!!!!!
GOD BLESS AMERICA…….EVEN YA’LLLL!!!!!!!!!!!! YEEAAAAA
LIAR! The same opportunity means the same plan they have– for free. That’s not part of the exchange.
re: #83 by common_sense
Well yes you are, nice to see ya, and all the new nics again tonight, man we are sproutin’!
Ok, been out at dinner with my Dad and stepmom since this afternoon,so I missed the messiah’s healthcare speech. Did anyone catch the dustup between The Snapped Shot blog and selrahC? It’s on the “Economy is Mending” and “Robert Spencer and the Extremists” threads. For those of you who don’t remember the Snapped Shot blog, they were the anti-jihadist photojournalism blog that had the rug pulled out from under them by the Assholiated Press. Snapped Shot, along with the Nose on Your Face, helped make “Islamic Rage Boy” an internet sensation in 2007.
Here’s Snapped Shot’s take on his exchange with selrahC and the changes at 1.0
re: #69 by Kirly
Not even JD?
re: #75 by chickadee
There is no reason that can be forwarded when most Americans voted him for other than fanatic acclimation or just blind ignorance by the electorate. If it is other than that then we are in deep doo doo.
I chalk it up to just plain ignorance. I hope I am wrong.
re: #85 by Champion692G
Champ you’re too much of a racist to do anything but spew invective. No one cares if Obama is black. Get with the program. And it’s debatable whether or not Obama can deliver health care for all. It looks more like he is setting himself up for a big fall because he’ll pass on the cost to your kids.
If unicorn farts smell bad republicans will tell you so. Democrats will tell you it’s perfume. So champ see the light and get your nose out of obamas butt.
re: #85 by Champion692G
Yawn!
re: #85 by Champion692G
(sounds of uncontrollable laughter)
That’s the funniest thing I’ve heard all day! The President provide affordable health care for all!
(sounds of still uncontrollable laughter)
Just out of curiosity, were you trying to be serious with that line about Obama providing health care? Nobody who says that could possibly be serious. It’s too funny to be serious!
(sounds of REALLY uncontrollable laughter)
re: #85 by Champion692G
Last time I checked, Бара́к Хусе́йн Оба́ма is a Mulatto.
I thought POTUS was only half black?
But they will take full credit!
re: #85 by Champion692G
And this is as good as it’s going to get for you…sad.
re: #77 by orangecrush
LMAO you disillusioned saps think you are competing with that blog? I’m not a member there but I pop in since 70% of the banter here is about that website. They get 250 minimum responses per post, this site breaks a hundred maybe if I show up. Wake up and realize you all won’t grow like you want to if all you do is engage in daily ball-washing sessions. The first adverse voice to show up(me) and you all shit a brick. As I see it this blog will die long before that one and its not because I want it to, its because you all aren’t managing this site very well.
Joe threw a tomato, and he quickly apologized. Spineless.
Affordable health care for all will only come when all medical professionals and lawyers are part of a government employment system and their fees are regulated. Won’t happen. Obamacare will create the next Great Depression.
re: #97 by Champion692G
Your ego is a little too big for you head champ. As I have pointed out to you several times you are afraid to have a discussion. And you’ve got some inner racism going on there you can’t get over. see a shrink. Make yourself better.
I’ve become somewhat fond of the label “racist”…since it pretty much means, at this point, projection from the individual flinging it. It appears that the person who uses the “racist” label sees the world only through racism, whereas the rest of us are more concerned with the sharing of values and ideals.
re: #97 by Champion692G
It’s not about numbers it’s about principles.
re: #97 by Champion692G
I like leftist talking points. But they have to be well reasoned and informative. Other wise they don’t mean too much to me.
Don’t you feel a little girly for your posting style?
re: #85 by Champion692G
I feel ya homie!
re: #97 by Champion692G
(sounds of uncontrollable laughter)
That’s even funnier than your last line! 100 comments maybe if you show up!
(sounds of still uncontrollable laughter)
I didn’t know you were even important!
(sounds of…well, you know)
re: #101 by jas
Exactly. Champ is a racist and that is the lens through which he sees the world.
He smells like spacejesus.
I haven’t read the entire thread, but healthcare INSURANCE REFORM must start with the TORT laws to bring down the costs of frivolous litigation.
BO was probably being truthful when he claimed that illegals would not be covered. That’s gonna be the next “crisis” that he’ll be hammering, and I’ll bet you a cat it happens before the holiday season; and he’ll be hammering for amnesty.
All men have the same kind of blood running through them no matter the color of their skin.
Some have a problem with that and find the need to differentiate that which is inside them, which is common to all, onto what they can externalize as a difference as a means to push a difference that is not there.
Well it sucks to be them.
re: #97 by Champion692G
Well you are the guy everybody loves to hate.
But we get plenty of 300+ threads, we don’t need your childish dribble.
Madden, I would hand you your own ass at any Madden game, cause you ain’t Da kine like the local bras.
re: #107 by davehm
Ha Ha except Space Jesus is a one liner with the hots for some Southern guy that abused him.
re: #97 by Champion692G
With all due respect and all that goes with such a sentiment.
SHUT UP
re: #99 by orangecrush
Hmmmmm lets see, I don’t think I called you guys racists in my post. terrorists, yes. Projection much. Be like Bar don’t hide it, own it.
re: #104 by Rodan
Be original, somebody already used that one.
re: #108 by Bunk X
Two items
1) Tort reform will never pass as long as lawyers have anything to do the process.
2) The bill may not explicitly say it will cover illegals; it says nothing about not insuring them.
Champ will just end up being the blog punching bag. Not much relevant is going to come out of him. Lack of logic, poor posting style, has a lot of issues he wants to project out on people.
We’re probably saving some poor dog from getting kicked around.
re: #108 by Bunk X
Hello, long time no see.I remember you, you were ganged up on just for a snarly comment. I saw you posting here but this is the 1st time we are on the same time. hello and glad to see you here.
re: #110 by bar
Come see me anytime, I’m on PS3, same name.
re: #114 by jas
Illegals will get a poverty option I think. If their income is below $4000 a year all costs will be waived. Or they will be billed the 2.5 percent and it will never be collected.
We should note their country of origin and bill the country.
re: #113 by Champion692G
Its just that how you sound. Chill and use Science, not some race crap.
BTW folks, as an ExZard n00b here, I like that one can re-edit one’s comments for typos and clarifications after posting. Congrats.
re: #113 by Champion692G
Like I said before, I don’t dislike you because you claim to be black.
I dislike you because you are rude, obnoxious and way to egocentric coupled with your whitey hate and victimhood. It’s a lot of baggage to deal with.
Ahhhh sleep beckons. I’ll be on tomorrow to slap you bitches around some more. Ponder on what I said about this blog, you crazies really need a forum to release your lunacy in, be a shame if this went by the wayside.
ANYWAY, good night all, Obama in 12.
PEACE
re: #113 by Champion692G
You’re the racist! why? because you pointed out someone’s skin color and that’s what racist do. They are so shallow in their thinking that they can not look at a person’s character because they can’t see past the skin.
John 3:16
re: #113 by Champion692G
Well i guess you can’t see it, but you are framing your thoughts from a racial viewpoint. sprinkle in all the other little vanities and your skittles aren’t adding up too well. Or you’re just loaded.
Nancy, it that you?
Good trolling though Champ let’s make this thread about you.
re: #121 by bar
1 last post. Bar on a real serious note, I don’t hate white people, not one bit. I just have pride man, recognize the difference. I only throw out the racists tag where warranted. So lets Madden some time, so I can kick the shit out of you.
re: #97 by Champion692G
Hey dude, pick a topic, state an opinion and support with links. Thats all we ask if you walk in and piss on the carpet. We can clean it up, no worries.
re: #116 by Rodan
That was long ago. I had fun for a mere week or so. You had my back at one point before I understood the “Hatchling Gauntlet Game.” Nice to reMeetchall.
I like the way he avoids me every time he appears. It’s like aww, yeah.
re: #129 by Bunk X
I keep it real.
re: #117 by Champion692G
PS3 is known as piece of shit # 3, dude my 70 year old mother plays piece of shit # 3.
Grow up and get an Xbox 360, then maybe you will be worthy.
I saw you “shit” on you-tube or your buddies Champ-310-Inglewood or some crap like that. Whatever it wasn’t good. I have been playing video games longer then you have been alive.
re: #118 by orangecrush
I believe that option exists right now with charity care. My only point was the sleight of hand performed…as others have said, the number of uninsured was strangely dropped from 47 million to 30 million…the illegals were taken out of the number, as to say, “illegals will not be covered by this bill. The truth, there’s nothing in the bill to enforce that aspect. And, on that note, I bid goodnight to all. Another day’s work of keeping the economy afloat with my meager contribution tomorrow.
re: #127 by Champion692G
Ah that racial pride feeling. lol. you will fit in well with the kkk.
re: #133 by jas
Yah they won’t be able to deny care to any illegal. If a Mexican immigrant worker breaks his arm in a field in South Dakota, no one is going to tell him tough luck hop a truck back to Juarez.
re: #121 by bar
But unlike other sites, it’s all good right now. The man is not a total splasher, lets see if we can eventually get him past the talking points and down to some level of reality. He is still high on the Obama Inauguration, his whole life has been a culmination to that one event. He really doesn’t see what has happened between now and then.
re: #136 by Sparky
Well i kinda agree with you. Sorry Champ for being aggressive and rude there with you. You are probably an ok guy. But I’ll still have to give you shit if you grow that wild. I’ll leave the racial stuff out of it. Doesn’t really do anything for me anyway.
re: #88 by The Osprey
my two cents
Obama says he wants to be the last of the many Presidents…
He is well on the way of achieving his goal. Of being the last President of a union of 50 States.
re: #131 by Rodan
re: #131 by Rodan
Song & D man was there, too. But this thread isn’t for me to whine about it. Who was/is Bartleby? (I jabbed him for fun, but I don’t know that the folks in the LizLozenge understood that I was joking.)
re: #137 by orangecrush
Well, kinda is all that’s needed, it’s more than some most will give.
To me that sounds like Nancy
re: #140 by Bunk X
He’s a good guy, I count him as a friend. He’s in Table Chat.
re: #136 by Sparky
I guess aside from the republican “terrorist”, you may have a point.
re: #142 by song_and_dance_man
Reminded me of hoosierhoops in a way.
re: #144 by bar
Unlike other sites, he won’t have a blog owner pulling out the stick, plus I think intelligent
responses go far in that situation, if not GAZE.
re: #145 by orangecrush
He’s got to be one of those guys from 1.0. The way he took a jab at “the management” revealed something deeper.
(like this blog is getting under his skin or something)
re: #143 by Rodan
Bartleby dominated the Lounge, but played along. He was talking about his trips overseas, and I responded with “Hilton” every time he ended a sentence with “Paris.” All in fun.
I’ll be back. Thanks again for the welcome.
re: #146 by Sparky
I have been kicking him around for a week or so now. I agree that intelligent response is better. But sometimes I have to flat out call him what he is.
Pro 18:6 A fool’s lips enter into argument, and his mouth calls for strokes.
re: #147 by davehm
I ah think so also.
re: #149 by bar
Yeah, I’m just a little jealous maybe, I get home and it’s all done. We don’t usually have an evening ass(democrat)hanging out.
OT/For the blog admins: The blog has been very slow for me this evening. The home page shows up okay, but when I click on the “comments” link to read comments, it never loads.
I had to quit out of my browser window, open a new one, and try again. Maybe this is just happening to me, maybe it’s just my computer and not the blog?
For everyone:
Anyway, this was posted at Jihad Watch by a visitor:
re: #145 by orangecrush
It could be any one of the sycophants that occupy that small corner of the leftist web.
Yet the totality of what Champ says smacks of a rant right from the keys of the Poobah and Nigh Talkin 1.0 Chief and Grand Master of the whole aladam Universe based on what he has spewed from his own keys. A thing we have seen.
Ouch, I can feel it. He may out me again for that.
re: #152 by CloudyDay
It was real slow for me earlier, took 10min to post on the last thread.
re: #154 by davehm
Me 3, I thought is might be the last FireFox update.
It’s the host. We’ve sent complaint emails. I think it’s time to move it.
re: #14 by dude
Hmm, I wonder if he’s on that kick because, from what I’ve read at other blogs and boards:
1. Iowahawk delinked LGF1 which ticked Johnson off;
and
2. some speculate that in a blog piece about RINOs that Iowahawk may have indirectly taken a pot shot at Johnson (by referring to him as “Nancy,” which is one of CJ’s nicknames)
Maybe that is what set Johnson off on the RINO stuff?
re: #155 by Sparky
I think it’s just the traffic.
re: #69 by Kirly
He’s my senator too and I called him a rino years ago. He has no spine and panders to his constituents, yet votes with liberals half the time. He’s useless and was absolutely the wrong man to nominate for pres. I wish he would retire to Bisbee.
re: #156 by m
Ask and ye shall receive
re: #156 by m
Do we need a tip jar? The bigger this gets the more work it is for yuonz (I’m from the left coast, we can’t speel)guys.
re: #152 by CloudyDay
It’s not just you. Success has drawbacks, and because we are growing that means the threads load slower because of increased traffic.
re: #89 by Macker
No Macker, not even JD (Hayworth, former AZ Congressman). Listen to his reponses when people call his radio show and say they wish he’d run against the mccain. He just thanks them for the very flattering comment and moves on asap. Never even sounds like he’d consider it. if you want not just a future in AZ politics, but a present (!!!) you do not mess with mccain. apparently, he’s one vindictive sumbitch.
re: #156 by m
Thanks m, and to the other folks above who let me know that the blog is slow for them too.
It sure is frustrating when it moves at a snail’s pace.
I only managed to get to this comment page because I quit out of my browser window, opened a new one, and tried again.
re: #152 by CloudyDay
no shit sherlock, he got beat up pretty bad on a posting this morning, I’d say the naysayers for once outnumbered the ass-kissers
re: #114 by jas
Sorry, missed your comment. You’re correct. As long as the trial lawyers have weight, TORT reform is dead in the water. How to fix that one is the crux of the biscuit (instead of just an apostrophe).
I’ve had some reeeeel slow loads. thought maybe there were DOS attacks or something.
re: #165 by common_sense
they were all disloyal…..they all stole strawberries from the paypal account
re: #152 by CloudyDay
The lies of the left are like rabbits that sit by bears in accidence.
I would have liked an expletive in Wilson’s remark… maybe a “PANTS ON FIRE!”
Speed:
More CPU/ram
Wordpress caching
MySql caching
And make sure the theme is a fast one.
Link to sample fast theme Old but some hints in it.
re: #85 by Champion692G
I think Obama is only half-black. One of his parents is white.
Its slow for me also, has been for some time now.
Maybe we should start banning the non ass kissers?
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re: #163 by Kirly
So in other words, we’re stuck with him until he dies. Frak.
re: #159 by father_of_10
agreed. except i’d like the mccain to retire someplace other than AZ. and especially not Bisbee! that’s one of my favorite places in teh state!
re: #117 by Champion692G
PS3 is over priced, IMO. I like Xbox 360 better.
Judging by the comments above, Champion692G is basically a troll at this point.
I’m all for different opinions being tossed out, but trying to gloat about Obama’s color is ridiculous. What does that have to do with anything and why is he “loving” the fact that Obama is black?
I’m in agreement with others: That is a racist statement.
Am I glad that my governor is white? Of course not. He’s a worthless sack of crap who ran jobs out of the state for 8 years now putting my state in one of the worst economic conditions in the nation.
If a black republican ran and won as governor, would I be glad that he is black? Nope. I’d be happy that he is a republican who would hopefully undo some of the stupidity.
Champion692G, you are a racist and/or race baiting troll and nothing more.
re: #176 by CloudyDay
PS3 is good for blu-ray (easiest firmware updates) and unique game titles…and that’s about it.
For gaming, it is the PC or 360 all the way. Next up, the PS3 and coming in far beind: The Wii.
Ahhhhhhhh……….that’s across the Mississippi River from my house…..and it is the same day that humongous Tea Party is gathering in Wash., D.C.!
re: #178 by Bill Jenkins
My first Xbox360 died on me
I got the red ring of death. And I hadn’t even used it that much, so I was pretty ticked off about it. I got a newer Xbox 360 about a year ago, though.
Is goddess around? She needs to put Nuke on her prayer list.
Got the info from GCP
re: #127 by Champion692G
Just your usual race baiting communist revolutionary.
Nothing to see here folks Move along.
When one types uppercase drivel and projects his obvious paranoia, the most advised tactic is to ignore him completely. This POS feeds off response. He is not interested in debate. He is apparently without the capability to debate hence the ad homnium attack mode right from the off.
Don’t feed the troll and after a while he’ll get jack of wasting his time and will move on to graffiting walls and frying what’s left of his brain on whatever he’s obviously injecting, smoking or ingesting.
Might I suggest we pray for this loser, that he gives up his self destructive rants before the cancer takes up residence in his over stressed cells, get back on his meds, and perhaps even learns that he has two ears but only one mouth.
Even he might be just capable of learning something.
re: #177 by Bill Jenkins
I’m not feeding that one after he found the “general welfare = general food stamp” clause in the constitution this morning.
permanent gaze
re: #178 by Bill Jenkins
LG bluray is easy to update, it has ethernet so you can download movies from netflicks.
If you don’t have it plugged into ethernet then it also has a USB port and you can update with a flash drive.
Nice black back ground in the new firefox update. damn!!!
Who is talking shit about Wii?
I have that and 360. Don’t be talking no Wii shit now, or I will throw my back out kicking your ass in boxing!!!
re: #181 by savage
Gosh, savage! –I HOPE gotc is sound asleep! –awakening for teachers comes pretty early! : )
I can’t get into that site you linked to, but I’ll watch for her, and let her know you left this msg. for her…..
re: #186 by Ma Sands
Thanks much, darlin
Now while we were all entranced by Obambi doing his thing in front of the House …. elsewhere the Senate were quietly hurrying through their endorsement of the Senior Regulator. This guy is a PETA stooge and will cause a lot of angst and trouble, especially to beef and pig farmers. Expect a radical PETA instigated agenda to roll out in the months ahead. Expect to be unable to afford as much meat or dairy as before as regulations begin to crush the life out of these industries. Forget about your public education kids lunches containing meat or dairy products. This guy is a fanatic and will drive his PETA agenda hard until you guys wake up and begin to push back.
Always watch the Obambi ye olde-bait – &-switch tactic. If the TPOTUS is holding your attention , tear your eyes and ears away and look for what is happening at the same time … in the background…! That is where the real evil is being hatched.
re: #1 by song_and_dance_man
Who called the President a Liar?
Who caller the liar a President?
re: #184 by bar
I’d like to get a stand-along Blu-Ray player one day…after shelling out the bucks on a freaking PS3, I figure that day will be much later that I’d like.
I have a Sony Bravia XBR4 40 inch LCD television (1080p), a 42″ Panasonic Plasma (1080p), and PS3, Wii, 360. I have setup to be proud of for gaming with one BIG problem: No surround sound.
Hopefully, I’ll get me an Onkyo receiver soon and some decent speakers to have a 7.1 surround setup.
re: #185 by DownRightMeanAmerican
My kids would be with you in defending the Wii. But > I < have barely touched the thing after getting the PS3 and 360.
re: #122 by Champion692G
I liked how for the first number of posts nobody responded to spark plug here. Given the nature of its rants — all noise and no information, he’s kind of like the 3 year old in a room full of adults. Ignore him and he’ll get quiet and go away. Respond and he’ll just get more loud and shrill.
Hmmmmm…..
re: #190 by Bill Jenkins
Sorry bar and DownRightMeanAmerican are the same crazy dude.
Very nice set up. I am partial to Yamaha receivers and Jamo speakers, but that is just me.
re: #183 by spidly
Welfare is a bogus system.
I don’t recommend anyone live near places that accept “section 8″ housing.
I saw brand new condo-styled apartments go up behind where I was raised. I thought they were cool and noticed something odd about them because most of the residents seemed to drive cars that didn’t fit how nice the apartments were. I saw an early-90’s Bonneville that got solidly rear ended being regularly driven for god’s sake. 75% of the lot was filled with beaters you’d find at a low-end budget auto joint in Illinois (where they can sell cars that aren’t even running).
I asked someone about why this was and they informed me what section 8 housing was.
Needless to say, the neighborhood started having frequent car break ins and trouble with gang graffiti.
Stay away from section 8 housing projects.
question:
who’s a bigger threat?
The guy who thinks the earth is 5769 years old, knows the history of it from that time, and is aware of the things that have led to the downfall of every democracy;
or the guy who is extremely well versed in archaean algae but thinks Stalin got a bad rap, Cuba has the best health care system on earth, and that we should look to The PRC on how to organize a government?
OK, that was rhetorical. Obviously the former so let’s get them creationists before they steal our liberties!
re: #85 by Champion692G
Actually, Obama is WHITE. Your WHITE PRESIDENT lied his fucking WHITE ass off tonight and got called on it.
Now your WHITE PRESIDENT will go off to his big WHITE HOUSE to plot UNIVERSAL ABORTION to eliminate as many black babies as possible, just like Planned-Parenthood founder Margaret Sanger intended.
Cheers!
P.S. – The Republican Party was founded to end slavery, and their first President was Abraham Lincoln.
P.P.S. – Dr. King was a life-long Republican.
P.P.P.S. – The Democratic Party was founded in 1840 to promote and expand slavery. They are still at it, and with this healthcare plan, they are going after all of us (except the blacks who will be eliminated through abortion).
P.P.P.P.S. – Remember segregation? That was ALL DEMOCRATS!
The Republicans have NEVER been the racists you ignorant asshole.
someone who thinks the earth is flat and respects human life,
or,
a highly educated scientist who believes “The fetus, given the opportunity to develop properly before birth, and given the essential early socializing experiences and sufficient nourishing food during the crucial early years after birth, will ultimately develop into a human being. Where any of these essential elements is lacking, the resultant individual will be deficient in some respect”
Good morning, y’all.
I took care of savage’s prayer request for Nuke.
re: #85 by Champion692G
Tedious racist drivel.
re: #198 by goddessoftheclassroom
Good Morning Goddess!
Got to run–have a great day!
Well I was trying to find a Youtube posting of Billy Dean singing, “You don’t count the cost”, but could not find. I thought it would be appropriate for 9/11 anniversary.
Goddess, when you have time I would like to see if you know about a website called ARC or GMO.
OT: American Thinker ran an article on the new apparent Obama birth certificate, including a challenge to you know who to prove it wrong. Response?
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/34632_A_Note_to_American_Nirther
In other words, don’t address anything substantial, just attack the messenger. The fact that this Corsi fellow might be a nut doesn’t actually address the provenance of the birth certificate. Truth should never be evaluated by the mouth that spoke it. Truth is truth, and if that birth certificate is true then there is, to put it mildly, a bit of a problem.
re: #199 by Former LGFer
I do not believe it’s in the minority! Could be wrong, doubt it.
re: #204 by archonix
LGF appears on the internet along with a number of creationist websites. Therefore, LGF is a creationist website.
/LizardLogic
“LIAR!” Probably the most truthful thing anyone in congress has uttered in years. Too bad Wilson backed down after being outed by kapo in chief Rahm Emanuel.
re: #207 by vagabond trader
Good Morning Vagabond Trader!
Lead story at the progressive “The Collegian” University paper?
http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/2009/09/10/bed_bugs_detected_in_dorms.aspx
Such much for The One’s speechifying
re: #208 by mary lee
Morning Mary Lee! Gotta run out of town, see you later!
re: #206 by hoodaticus
LittleGreenFundamentalists
Charles called me an ass last night. Do I get an award for that?
Morning all. Slaving away at work again. If I could call it work.
Mayor of London asks non-Muslims to fast a day so they can get a feel for what it’s like to be a Muslim.
nothing said about Muslims doing something Christians do
re: #213 by mawskrat
like loving your neighbor.
re: #213 by mawskrat
I already screwed up, My wife went to work in a skirt, I didn’t beat her, no Hijab, she drove and we have a dog.
My oldest daughter did the same thing, and the younger one went to school. I didn’t punish either one cause they disgraced my “Honor”.
And I forgot, the middle one is in Pittsburgh going to college, Oh, the horror.
think I’ll have some ham, and share some with my golden retriever.
Maybe tomorrow I’ll strap a bomb vest on my daughter and have her blow up the school bus.
re: #177 by Bill Jenkins
Let’s see where do I begin? My wife and I were talking about this last night and it baffles me how non-black people, take it a step further, non-minority(white) people think. When I told her that you all call me racists, she laughed uncontrollably and simply asked me “Are they serious or are they retarded?” All I could say was “I don’t know.”
I’ve always flat out equated the stupidity in which you respond to my pride for being black, my pride for a black president, as projection. You call me racists for having black pride and I figured you all have inner issues that you are trying to push on me because of your hate for a black president, the way you came up, I don’t know. But now I wonder is it just ignorance on your part? For many i think it is.
It hasn’t been that long since slavery ended, it hasn’t been that long since black people went from nationally being considered 3/5 of a man, it hasn’t been that long since black people were given the right to vote, it hasn’t been that long since the civil rights movement where black leaders were hunted just for trying to get an equal slice of bread. All these things considered we have pride for who we are, for knowing the history of our ancestors, for overcoming many hurdles, for realizing that we haven’t quite made it yet, but we are almost there.
You all equate my pride to that of a kkk member, you wouldn’t believe how hard my wife laughed when I told her that. Because its not the same. White power, white pride was a byproduct of hatred and suppression of a supposed “inferior” race. My pride is exactly this, Its me being proud of the beauty of my culture, me being proud of where we have been, where we are, and where we are going. To you all there shouldn’t be a problem with that, unless you have those underlying issues I mentioned earlier. Black pride, brown pride, yellow pride, its all cultural pride. Don’t get me wrong now, there are those who will misuse that “pride” for treachery but at its core cultural/racial pride is beautiful.
re: #196 by hoodaticus
Yes the Pres is half-white, that is acknowledged, no dispute. But to listen to the majority of you in this blog, you all would have everyone believe the Pres is a big racist and he hates white people. Your master Glenn Beck even said so on national TV. So which is going to be? Is he a racists? Or is he only a “white” president in the face of my black pride?
All true, no dispute. But times change (See Ronald Reagan).
As for the validity of my postings, I just have to say, I love the “holier than thou” attitude you all take on. I reject your shit and I post accordingly, sometimes I cite sources, sometimes I speak from internal knowledge. I’m not in school anymore, I don’t have to substantiate anything to you all. I wonder what the percentage is of post from you all that have a source cited, let alone a credible source. Most of you throw out bogus/unsubstantiated claims and if you do have a source, the majority of the times its some biased right-wing news source, or blog site. So this is what I’m going to do, I’m going to hold up this big ass mirror, so you can look into it and reprimand yourselves.
Let’s see, how many post in this thread alone is commentary with no proof?
re: #7 by tqcincinnatus
re: #9 by song_and_dance_man
re: #23 by tuffy
re: #60 by newsjunkie_ky
re: #70 by m
re: #133 by jas
I think you get the point. It amazes me that you all seem to agree that every post on your side is brilliant, while my post are drivel, trolling efforts, lol, i guess its just those inner issues coming to the surface.
Anyway, good morning. LETS BEGIN!
The key words:
“Without mercy or respect shown to them.”
re: #216 by Champion692G
Racist will always bring up skin color,
times have not changed (see Robert C. Byrd).
Yes, good morning, indeed.
“Lets Begin” what?
Scrolling past your insightful baloney?
Your man got called out last night.
I thought his speech last night was fantastic. Oh wait I was listening to Jeter. Never mind.
re: #216 by Champion692G
What would you like to begin?
Let me get this straight. A bunch of people on this blog either apologize for the way they feel in deference to the way you feel, or you’re going to throw a temper tantrum and continue your tirade until someone gives you something to shut you up.
You are symbolic of the entitlement mentality that has been driven into your head by Democratic politicians since the New Deal and more recently and applicable the Great Society programs of LBJ.
WAKE UP.
If you REALLY seek truth, here’s some fact for your eyeball.
re: #218 by davehm
LOL, nice try but WRONG. Please no projection on me today, keep that crap inside your own head.
re: #222 by Champion692G
I got the truth…no seeking needed
Jesus said “I am the way, the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.”
John 14:6
re: #221 by Bumr50
Exactly where do I express entitlement? Is that something you thought was cool that you just really wanted to say? It doesn’t apply.
Good morning everyone. I see that there’s a race-baitng ninny throwing a tantrum in #216. How nostalgic. It reminds me of the election season.
Obama bin Lying.
re: #222 by Champion692G
I am only replying to whether “Illegals” will be covered. While it is true no direct mention is made of covering them or for that matter whether the “Gov” plan would pay for abortions, the fact is that the ONLY way to insure that does NOT happen is to specifically and inplicitly state that ILLEGALS and ABORTIONS will NOT be covered.
re: #224 by davehm
Agreed, thats why I pray every night.
re: #223 by Champion692G
Jesus also said that “nations will rise against nations”
Matt. 24:7
The word nation in the Greek text is “ethnos” it’s where we get the word ethnic from, it literally means-people group.
I see that you play into that.
re: #230 by davehm
Once again is it projection or are you ignorant? Who am I rising against? I would really like to hear a detailed explanation from you instead of throwing out claims and hiding behind the Bible. Thats another thing my wife and I talked about. Christianity to the right-wing has become a political tool for your party. You claim to be Christians but the moral midgetry that you display is laughable. After countless numbers of people have said death panels are a lie, Palin as early as yesterday is in WSJ trying to substantiate, but like Obama said its a flat out lie. Just like Joe Wilson, a flat out liar, thats not becoming of a Christian. The GOP is full of a lot of preaching with no practice.
re: #231 by Champion692G
“The GOP is full of a lot of preaching with no practice.”
That particular sin runs rampant in both parties.
re: #225 by Champion692G
In this case, you are expressing a reason WHY many people feel entitled, a reason that has been taught in the public school system and wherever government has been able to spread influence.
Your “black pride” pushes off on “white guilt” by being based on the premise that your culture is STILL in the hole from being treated unfairly by me and my culture.
If I refuse to feel guilty and express that I don’t wish that any of my wealth be used to help any specific “group, your pride takes a hit.
That’s because a part of your pride is manufactured by government, rather than genuine.
re: #231 by Champion692G
Your post last night at the very worst is racist at the very best race baiting, you brought up skin color instead of looking at the content of what the man said. You were the one who started that on this thread and I’m just pointing that out.
Remember what Galatians 5:22 says,
But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, kindness, goodness, faithfulness,
re: #232 by Nevergiveup
I disagree somewhat. I see it as the right using Christianity as a political tool and too many on the left mocking Christians, like Bill Maher. Thats one of the main reasons I don’t fully embrace liberalism.
re: #207 by vagabond trader
I don’t think Wilson’s outburst would have occurred had Obama ever deigned to take real questions on his hellthcare plan rather than give speeches, and also answer those real questions with some factually-based content rather than filibuster the answers to kill time. I believe Wilson eloquently expressed the frustration and anger many currently feel at the Liar-in-Chief. Based upon his facial expression at the time, I don’t think Obama was particularly pleased with the outburst, so that makes it all the better. The cherry, of course, is that what Wilson uttered is true. Like others have said, Wilson’s apology is moot as you can’t unring the bell, so to speak.
You should already know this.
The president is biracial, or in other terms, he is a mulatto or mestizo.
To claim he is black is a racist comment.
This is a throw back to the period of slavery, and the “one drop of negro blood rule.”
In any event, what you mistake for racism is actually behaviorism.
Whatever you think you bring to this forum, I can assure you it is bigoted and shallow.
The tired claim that a black man can’t be a racist has been replaced with the modern definition of a racist.
You have made many different claims, and I have reason to doubt you are who you say you are, which is why I find your behavior unacceptable.
All you do is talk in circles and hijack threads. You are nothing but a troll, and my policy is to not feed the trolls.
Consider this the only snack you will ever get from me.
re: #231 by Champion692G
I’m not a Republican, or a “right winger” I’m a Jesus freak 24/7 and I’m concerned about the direction this nation is going in.
The bible is a book that I live by, not political ideology.
I’m also wondering, Champ, if you’ve looked into your African heritage.
As I often speak from the heart on this topic, I’ll use me.
I’m German-Irish. Even though my ancestors immigrated here before the Nazis came to power, I still often ponder and indeed feel shame that some of my distant relatives undoubtedly were duped by the promises that Adolf Hitler made the nation of Germany and participated on some level in the atrocities that followed. That’s just a recent example of a part of my “white culture” that I’m forced to examine as a part of my heritage.
I feel bad if it’s difficult for you to find exactly your heritage, but it may not be all victory and progress when you do find it.
re: #235 by Champion692G
There is that but here in the NorthEast we have this thing called “Limousine Liberals”. Do as I say but not as I do. They preach about public schools ect and then send their kids to swanky Private Schools. Or the Charlie Rangle types who write the tax laws and then violate those same laws every chance he gets. It’s not just confined to Democrats, which is why I damn both parties equally.
re: #14 by dude
IN re the cult and sarc tags, I needed em a lot. Those clueless cultists thought I was serious too often.
re: #233 by Bumr50
Once again is it ignorance or projection? Please stop putting words in my mouth.
Nobody is asking you or wanting you to feel guilty about anything. I’m basically saying in so many words “Don’t crap on my parade, hater.”
So you basically misrepresent what I’m saying to try and fit me into this racists box, but it won’t work. Why do I point out Mr. Presidents race, because healthcare has been a LONG battle in America, a battle lost by many presidents. Its quite ironic to me that of all the Presidents to win this battle it will be a Black President, when not too long ago a black man wasn’t even considered human. Don’t piss on me because irony is slapping reality.
And since you want to quote the Bible, this is one my mom continuously had me recite as a youth which I still abide by today.
I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. -Phillipians 4:13
re: #237 by no2liberals
Thanx, now shut the fuck up, lmao.
edit: That was uncalled for, I’ll take that one back.
re: #242 by Champion692G
“I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me. -Phillipians 4:13″
Your mother is very wise.
“Why do I point out Mr. Presidents race, because healthcare has been a LONG battle in America, a battle lost by many presidents. Its quite ironic to me that of all the Presidents to win this battle it will be a Black President”
If Obama’s plan fails would you’d like him to be known has the black pres. who destroyed America’s health care system?
I’ve gotta go to work (render unto ceaser)
have an awesome day.
re: #244 by davehm
What will there be to destroy. As I see it, what is fact is, there will be a government option in 4 years or so. Private companies will probably benefit from all of this reform since insurance will be mandated. There is no drastic overhaul of the system happening, so what can possibly be destroyed?
re: #41 by Bordm
Hey! LGF 1.zilch is his only job, something about living in the basement of his mama’s trailer comes to mind. Has he been out in the real world this year?
re: #242 by Champion692G
Re: projection…sorry, I’m not a Toaster!
re: #246 by Champion692G
I don’t think you really understand what a potential “government option” means. It would mean the end of all private insurance and a COMPLETE takeover of the Health Care in this Country by the Federal Government. That is drastic and it will effect everyone in the country. And considering how the Feds run Medicaid and Medicaire that is NOT what most citizens in the USA want.
I first noticed black racism when I worked with a black guy. Just like champ he would go out of his freaking way to talk too or wave too only black people. I have worked with many Hispanics and they didn’t do crap like that.
I don’t understand why skin color is so damn important, for champ that is. He claims to be a Christian and as a Christian he should understand that we are all created in the image of God.
We are all sinners and we are all equal, love your neighbor as yourself.
So if champ who proclaimed us as racists from comment number 1 has a problem with skin color, then he really has a problem with God. He is really telling God who made us equal that we are not equal.
Champ claims to be college educated, so either he is lying or college was just a big ripoff.
re: #246 by Champion692G
well reading walter and 3wood at 1.0 suggests the rules in the bill will force employers to dump their employees onto the public insurance plan to save money. The penalty for business will be too high. The result is the government will be the single insurer. Private won’t be able to compete with the albatross around their neck.
And basic economics proves over and over that the governments role is just to regulate the market. Not create or operate the market. All government run markets have hidden costs and will fail.
re: #242 by Champion692G
You’re still wrong here champ. Step back, take an inventory. Maybe consider some of the criticisms thrown your way have an oz of truth in them.
re: #251 by orangecrush
And anyone who thinks the “promise” of this POS being revenue neutral well I got this bridge in Brooklyn for sale.
This is simple business. Public option or not.
This bullshit healthcare reform will only cause prices to rise.
Dictating to private insurance companies who they can and can not insure will cause all of us to pay higher premiums.
The bill contains a formula that requires all insurance premiums from the cheapest to the most expensive to be within the formula. Now common sense tells me that the insurance company is not going to drop their highest premiums to fit the formula. The insurance company will have to raise the lower premiums to compensate for the risk of the folks they are no longer allowed to deny.
Any private business in America has the “right” to refuse service to anyone.
Except health insurance companies. I cant imagine the government telling me that I have to service everyone who walks through my doors. So some guy like champ comes into your business all mealymouthed chasing your patrons away and you don’t have the “right” to kick him to the curb.
That is a clear infringement on our liberties.
re: #242 by Champion692G
People are often indifferent to race associations until they met someone personally. Then they usually then warm up to the human being not because of the race. A true racist will pop out here. And will be isolated by the family connections.
Bringing race pride into an organization will work when it is small. It won’t work on a national stage or international one. Obama needs to be able to manage all people. Voters lauding him because of his race create an obstacle for him to overcome. and they create an illusion for themselves that is just as tough to overcome as the kkk illusion.
Be a little more disillusioned about what race means.
re: #254 by DownRightMeanAmerican
Free health care in Champ’s version will be long lines, rationed goods, long waits for reviews.
Look at cash for clunkers. Champ will be first in line, get his “free” health care, and declare the system works and is free for everyone. But if he just looked out the door behind him, he would see they closed it due to lack of funds and 50 percent of the people where left without any healthcare at all.
re: #239 by Bumr50
We should all live in the present. My family is what would be considered pretty racially diverse from intermarriage. They can look to every part of the world for the family roots. I think America has a lot of people like that.
I’m not fond of people who still insist on racializing everything. It’s selfish and bad for the kids.
re: #237 by no2liberals
lol so true
re: #249 by Nevergiveup
re: #251 by orangecrush
Wrong and Wrong, the man gave you the heart and purpose of reform last night and you still act as though your “expert” opinion is paramount, laughable.
Postal service, USPS, UPS, DHL, Fed Ex. They all exist despite the availability of a government service, that is lunacy, lmao.
Backwards thinking is random with the GOP, I guess since you want to abolish government programs, we can get rid of the fire dept, police dept, judges, etc.
If anything, Obama’s school analogy was a nod to the private insurance industry. Among private and public universities, which are recognized as the best, Private.
Lol, so frustrating dealing with you guys.
re: #231 by Champion692G
Death Panel is an accurate easy to understand term. If you look at the nationalized healthcare systems around the world, they all have death panels. Just rolling with a different name. Governments operate by committee and panels. Blue ribbon panels everywhere.
Of course they are going to have birth panels and death panels. And like all government currently do, they will create rules and regulations that most people can follow easily. They will have an appeal process for those few individuals who find that they don’t fit. That individual will appear personally before the “death panel” with their lawyer and make their case before cold pre judging, not always ethical government employees.
re: #259 by Champion692G
Look I don’t know you or who you are but I am in the Health Care Delivery Field and you have no idea what you are talking about.
Here is a question for Champ:
Is Michael Steele a racist? He doesnt care for Obama either!
Hello. I am new to this blog. Any blog. I enjoyed reading the article and the comments, but the race baiting, racial pride stuff was unfortunate. I agree with the ones who advised that no one should respond to anyone that writes that stuff. He doesn’t listen and reason; he just hijacks the comments. If you fight with a fool: you lose. And so do the rest of us.
Nice blog so far. I never went to the other one because it had a reputation for being liberal. I saw this blog referenced on AT.
P.S. Maybe if you want to comment on how bad someone’s post is but you know by their post that they are probably less than reasonable, you can just talk about the post but not to the person that posted it no matter what they do – treat them like an un-person (which a fool is). Address the foolishness, but do not address the fool. I am also pretty sure it will make the fool post less foolishly or go away. A win-win.
“Don’t cast your pearls before swine or your best to dogs”
re: #259 by Champion692G
Common goods need government regulation. Defense, Fire, Police. highways. And yes health care to some extent. The poor deny themselves medical care and just put up with the system. They are afraid of the costs. people with police records are afraid of being caught.
We do need a better system to serve this population. That population does need a single payer model. I don’t think the health care in the US though needs to be torn down and rebuilt completely.
An incremental plan to cover this population would be more welcomed by everyone then Obamacare.
re: #261 by Nevergiveup
Well my primary doctor, who’s an actual medical doctor, completely disagree’s with the crap you spew. I have a blue cross ppo, so he’s a doctor working in the private network and he’s all for the reform Obama is proposing.
re: #265 by Champion692G
Is he willing to be a doctor for $80,000 a year and no overtime? Join a union?
re: #195 by spidly
Asking that kind of question at 1.0 will get you harassed and banned.
re: #265 by Champion692G
And so one “supposed” Dr. and I’m supposed to swoon with that expert recomendation? Please. I’ve been doing this my whole adult life and for every “Dr” you quote I can showcase 100 that would beg to differ. And what “crap” am I spewing exactly? And you think because he accepts your “ppo” that he is in the “private” network what ever you mean by that? I am sure he is also in many if not most HMOs also?
re: #262 by DownRightMeanAmerican
No, lol, he’s just an idiot.
re: #194 by Bill Jenkins
Welfare is an accumulation of people who make bad choices and need the government to bail them out. And the government is self served to keep them in welfare servitutde. Along with those bad choices are more bad choices about drugs, alcohol, and friends.
So it’s not wise to live close to section 8 housing.
re: #266 by orangecrush
I don’t know ask him? Is there something wrong with making $80,000?
re: #271 by Champion692G
No i would love to make it. But I think most doctors and lawyers in the country would refuse. but it’s the only real way to make health care costs come down so it can be affordable for all.
I’d like to ask the collective here, does anyone think healthcare reform is needed?
re: #273 by Champion692G
Yes, but not the type that is being proposed and not with out tort reform.
re: #273 by Champion692G
Yes I do. I think it has to be incremental and targeted to the most in need to get it done quickly and effectively. I’m not enamored of the Feds to do anything well.
later. off to work
If you want socialized medicine, the U.S. Constitution requires you to get it from your state — if your state Constitution allows involuntary servitude! Socialism is slavery which is prohibited by the U.S. Constitution and Florida’s Constitution (and probably every other state). It is slavery because we are being forced, involuntarily, into a commune for the support of our brother.
The government is imposing on us the LEGAL duty to rescue (socialism/fascism/communism) and our Constitution had the government as a protector of our persons and our property (protecting our liberty), and left us all with a MORAL duty to rescue.
Now, from the Christian perspective: Jesus is my Good Shepard, NOT government. Government is the FALSE or IDOL shepard, and no real Christian would follow/trust the IDOL shepard. I have to obey government, but I certainly don’t want the government to help me (I have Jesus who is SOOOO much better), and I don’t want government to help others by robbing Peter to help Paul (doing evil that good may come, which God says is an abomination (close to obomination, huh?) Romans 3:8. Besides, when the government helps, things get worse, when private people, especially Christians help, by demonstrating the love of God and then sharing the word of God (which the people in need desparately NEED, then it is truly a win-win, rather than a socialist lose-lose.
re: #273 by Champion692G
Depends on what your definition of ‘reform’ is, champignon. Destroying a system so that 7-8% of our population will now be ‘covered’?
/Never trust a Dem on the meaning of words. Get ‘em to define them in detail. Surprises abound.
re: #276 by Raymond
I submit to you this.
“The most important one,” answered Jesus, “is this: ‘Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God, the Lord is one.[e] 30Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’[f] 31The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[g]There is no commandment greater than these.”
There shouldn’t be any problem among middle class and up citizens, sacrificing a little bit more of what they make in taxes if its going to help someone get care they need. If the government is the entity that reminds people of their moral and Christian responsibility, then so be it.
re: #275 by orangecrush
Sounds like what Obama was talking about, because I believe at one point he stated the public option will be implemented in 4 years so it can be done correctly.
Hi Champion,
I don’t think you read my post very carefully.
1. I stated (and can back up with the appropriate passages if you would like) that it is unConstitutional to get socialized medicine from our Federal government – it is outside their jurisdiction.
2. It is not the Christian way to rely on the government or IDOL shepard. I only count on Jesus, I do not have nor want health insurance (although now that I live in Thailand I have to have some, but I lived in America 13 years without it). I expect other people who call themselves Christians to count only on Jesus, but that is their choice to make and not mine to make for them; I just encourage them to have faith. Also, I don’t support a government program to rob Peter to help Paul, which is an abomination. You do not do evil that good may come – the end does NOT justify the means. Period. The Christian way is to help those that need help: demonstrate the love of God and share the word of God (in a natural way: like as a reply to, “Why are you helping me?). Also, it would be a wonderful opportunity for those who know that God heals to pray for those who are hurt and ill.
The answer to all of the problems in America and around the world is revival. Our bad health is a symptom of sin and the answer is always to repent and to draw near to God. He will heal. The answer is not to reform the health care industry.
EXCEPT: for those that want a secular soluton.
1. STOP regulating the health insurance industry AT ALL. Again, the Federal government has NO jurisdiction to regulate commerce. They only have the legitamate power to strike down state laws that discriminate against citizens from other states – stuff like that; meaning they have the power of the shield and not of the sword. They can stop bad state regulation which is discriminatory, but they do not have the power to regulate themselves. Also, they certainly CANNOT delegate their law-making ability to an executive branch agency: that is a very obvious violation of the separation of powers doctrine. (to be continued)
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2. Also, let the medical business be truly free. Let me get health care from a nurse, or a medical student, or from a veterinarian, or from a herbalist — anyone I want to — I am not a child or a prisoner and I should have the constitutional property right of the freedom of contract! I do NOT need the government (false Shepard) to keep me safe. Who sold me into slavery to some stupid nanny anyway?! She is doing a very bad job! So, let me be free and have the freedom of contract (licensing is Marxist slavery — the permission of government to work). The bad nanny (the false Shepard) is only selling you to the highest corporate bidder anyway!
Look, America doesn’t want Constitutional government — too much responsibility and they have not the Good Shepard, but they don’t want Obama’s marxist vision either. They are happy somewhere in the middle. They want some ying and they want some yang. Obama wants to be our Dear Leader. He is a true believer. He is AN anti-Christ. I am a true believer in Jesus who is SOON returning. America is filled with the lukewarm whom God despises (God loves the people but despises their lukewarmness).
Night time in Thailand. Good night.
re: #280 by Raymond
I’ve dealt with days of hearing the unconstitutional argument. So to your claim on that I give you this.
Section 8. The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
I argued for the pre-amble, but lo and behold its in section 8 also. Yay for me, Yay for Americans.
You know its hard to disagree there. I was raised in the Church but I saw it as something my mom made me do. As an adult I’ve strayed a little but I haven’t quite hit that unwavering faith level yet. It’s growing daily through prayer and seeking my own answers through Church and reading the Bible, I know God will lead me to where I need to be. You sound similar to my mom in terms of your level of faith but I my mom would never say we don’t need health care, thats silly. God has given us the capacity to chose between right and wrong and he’s also bestowed gifts to each of us. The Christ-like choice is to help those in need(see good samaritan), to take it a step further if we have been blessed with gifts whether it be monetarily, medical knowledge, etc, those gifts should be used to help people. Prayer definitely should be incorporated into this but we live in a country that separates Church and State unfortunately.
re: #281 by Raymond
I was digging your vibe, now I just think you’re out of line. You sound more like limbaugh than a rational person.
re: #278 by Champion692G
The Bible tells us we will always have the poor with us. It does not give instructions on how to end poverty – it simply states that it is there and will always be there.
Secondly, the Bible states that we must freely give a helping hand to the poor. It says nothing about using the force of government to coerce people into giving to the poor.
Your worldview would be to force me and everybody else to give to a government that may not spend my money the way I want it spent.
Furthermore, every dollar the government takes out of my pocket steals from God and the tithe I am obliged (albeit willingly) to give to HIM.
re: #283 by Champion692G
And you’re still wrong. Once again, you need to take a Con Law course (or at least read a book written by a reputable Constitutional scholar), because you’re just making yourself look stupid by repeatedly making the same false assertion.
“General welfare” means something that benefits society in general.
A government-run health care system provides benefits directly to individual people. It’s a transfer program that takes money from one person and gives it to another.
It’s simply not Constitutionally permitted, no matter how many times you claim otherwise.
re: #85 by Champion692G
Racist
re: #280 by Raymond
2 Chronicles 7:14
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
re: #286 by lobo91
He doesn’t know what a ConLaw course is, lobo. I agree with your reading, but you know damn well that the spending power’s only restriction under current jurisprudence is that it must be spent on the “general welfare”, that Congress alone determines what is in the “general welfare”, and that therefore rational basis scrutiny is all you can get.
re: #289 by hoodaticus
Yes, I realize that.
It doesn’t change the facts, however.
Government programs that take money from one citizen and give it to another citizen (or in this case, people who may not even be citizens) are not within the meaning of the General Welfare clause.
I didn’t say that anyone was going to actually do anything about it. These days, anyone who actually believes the Constitution means what it says, and that the government should stay within its restrictions, is viewed as some sort of subversive.
re: #290 by lobo91
We’re in complete agreement AFAIK.
278. Champion692G
Champion692G? This was Jesus saying in answer to someone questioning him like you are doing now. Jesus contextual answer was stating, the problem of there being poor will never be solved so while He was yet here, let’s party!
re: #69 by Kirly
Isn’t a young guy challenging him? (I forgot his name – must check Google….)
McCain is the Left’s stooge. They use him to undermine outspoken Republicans and he falls in line evvvvvery time like a good little “maverick”. McCAIN PLEASE RETIRE!!!
re: #172 by CloudyDay
Get over it. If that’s the only reason you can respect him, that shows how shallow you are. I won’t hold my breath for you to start judging him on his character…
I’m new here so bear with me I’m just a stupid shipyard worker and I don’t know much about anything other than how to build ships. but it seems to me that Obama is the ANTI-CHRIST and we’re all going to pay for the next thousand years for the money that he’s trying to spend now that WE ( american people ) don’t have.
GO JOE
re: #17 by Rodan
re: #280 by Raymond
let me help you out a little, First off not all illnesses are caused by sin. second God does heal and He also allows us to become sick or ill or have problems to better understand what others are going through.
to preach to people and spread your believes is a great thing. but be careful what you preach you be mistaken and be not only judged for your own sins but be judged for leading someone else astray
re: #49 by newsjunkie_ky
While I agree with Joe I also believe that there are better ways of dealing with liars like OBAMA it’s called impeachment.