CJ of LGF has broken the TOS with PAYPAL
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Posted by avideditor on September 7, 2009
I know of two people that he has exposed personal info on that he could have only got from paypal payments or donations. This is clearly against the terms of service for PayPal. How do you get PayPal removed from a website? I know the JIDF has done that to jihadis. But, I do not think PayPal will help just because he turned his site from an anti-jihadi site to an anti-conservative and G-d bashing site that now promotes the global warming myth and 0bama’s agenda. He is not a jihadi yet, I just think Charles Johnson of LGF has crossed the line and has put innocent people’s lives at risk. STOP HIM NOW IF YOU CAN. PS the JIDF radio show is amazing IMHO, especially ep 4. Check it out. They are a great organization too IMHO
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We're not easily offended and don't want people to think they have to walk on eggshells around here (like at another place that shall remain nameless) but of course, there is a limit to everything.
Play nice!
Two minutes since the last post?
no2liberals
My internet went down before I could answer you on the last thread. Kilgore by two.
Good grief, I’m only three hours behind no2liberals last post. Is anyone out there?
re: #3 by tee
(me)
Hi, Ma Sands, how are things today? Good to know that I’m not the last human in the universe.
re: #4 by Ma Sands
Me too, but the pillow calls.
re: #3 by tee
Hey Tee,
Me too.
I suspect Rodan posted this right after the “Why People Didn’t Trust Obama to Address Their Kids” thread went up. He most likely pulled it and rescheduled it to show up now. With multiple administrators it sometimes happens.
I understand. I live in Hawaii. It’s only 7:15 PM. Everyone else sleeps now.
Are people noticing what’s coming up, Sept. 25th?
http://sioanetwork.com/?p=144
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/09/islam-on-capital-hill-.html
(Sorry –I guess this is OT, pretty early in the thread…..)
I would think that if you could give PayPal proof that he had broken the TOS that they would bust him.
Nic change to protect my ability to spy on 1.0!
I quit using PayPal a long time ago. They still email me with request for information. Most could be spam, but I would never use them again.
Bumr50
if you are around or happen to peruse this thread, here are the kids that opened for the Yeah Yeah Yeahs
Yacht
re: #3 by tee
Is anyone out there?
Just nod if you can hear me, is there anyone home?
/Channeling Pink Floyd…and yep, I know it’s “is there anybody in there?”
Hey spidly, good to see you tonight. Ever use PayPal?
re: #14 by tee
not with LGF, and not for a really long time, but yep
last year – I think I used it for MEMRI and Yon
13. Bob in Breckenridge
Hello, hello, is there anyone out there?
re: #14 by tee
I did once –gave BabbaZee a bit towards a fancy t-shirt she wanted to get from mama winger’s zazzle site….. : )
13. Bob in Breckenridge
My favorite has always been “Comfortably Numb”.
Ma Sands
What ever become of BabbaZee?
Last post for the night. I have avoided Paypal and never saw any reason to use it since Ed Foster (Infoworld Gripeline) reported that they require giving access to one’s bank account rather than allowing use of credit card for payment. I don’t give anyone a free shot at my bank account.
re: #19 by tee
She does have her own site –posts reams of fantastic links every day……at least, she was, last I heard, back in December….. : )
The Outraged Spleen Of Zion
http://babbazeesbrain.blogspot.com/
re: #20 by AZfederalist
It is not required to give them a bank account number, but they persist in asking for one. Something about “confirming” your account with them and supposedly it makes you a preferred user.
They lost me with that reasonong. I use PayPal but there is no way in hell that I am giving them a bank account number.
21. Ma Sands
Thanks, I added it to favorites. I’ll take a closer look tomorrow.
Speaking of old times, anyone know what happened to Killian Bundy, he still at the old place. He could get on my nerves, but mostly he was good people. He outted Bubble Girl ( she was always taking new id’s), she didn’t mind, but I hated it.
re: #23 by tee
Ahhh! –my good deed for the day! : )
‘Night, all.
My rule of thumb is never fuck with peoples income except through competition. It has served me pretty well. If there is a definite crime there, the people whose information was compromised should complain. Otherwise not worth it. It should just result in a slap on the wrist to not do it again.
I think the lesson there is that paypal uses some real information. And one shouldn’t use them if anonymity is needed. Just send cash. Or use an escrow service.
The layers of malfeasance at 1.0 are pretty interesting. I couldn’t be a member of a site like that.
Use anonymous browsing.
Don’t use your LGF email or login and password anyplace else. Be someone different at Irish Roses and Defenseman.
re: #24 by tee
He is still at 1.0
My favorite all time Pink Floyd song was “Wish you Were Here” as a Vietnam veteran I always pictured that song as being about us in Vietnam. Of course, it wasn’t. Still the words they were beautiful. More meaning than anyone could imagine.
So, so you think you can tell
Heaven from Hell,
Blue skies from pain.
Can you tell a green field
From a cold steel rail?
A smile from a veil?
Do you think you can tell?
Good night all.
27. orangecrush
He does survive.
Thanks
Why are all you guys so obsessed by LGF 01 gat a life talking about it only legitimises it,
30. Pragmatist
I only asked about two people I knew over there. Is that an obsession? So. so relax, the band is getting old like me. So, so enjoy. You have to remember the past so, so as to not repeat it. Sorry, I just like that first part of the song. So what?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KvH127PFmcY
Steyn and Levant finally win last thursday
re: #32 by spidly
Wow. I did not know that –thanks for posting it! Makes me so glad! : )
32. spidly
Looks like the Canadians or finaly getting it.
The problem is that PayPal requires a delivery address. But a donation or payment for services shouldn’t require delivery addresses.
Anyone can data mine personal information from contributions by getting their home (delivery) address. A reverse search from the address reveals the occupant.
I did give to LGF a couple of years ago but I wasn’t logged on because I wasn’t a “Lizard” then. I use a special E-Mail for Paypal and my company address for delivery. I can change E-Mail address anytime my spam filter gets over loaded. My company address is general too, but FedEx, UPS and the USPS does find it.
I have noticed selrahC (that name suits him) that his PayPal donation and subscription buttons are more prominent. Plus, his Google clickthrus are noticeable and his Amazon ads (I have an Amazon affiliate account too) are all over the place. Plenty of “feed me” clutter.
I also see that he’s entertaining ‘Premium” ads.
Wait and see who gets the pole position there.
How he would charge for them I don’t know but I assume he would charge by “hits” to his site or ads.
Regarding why there aren’t a ton of comments here, it seems that most of you have a life.
I’m on this morning killing time as my kids get dressed for school.
R_o_T
I see Dirk Diggler is in the Book of the Banned. One of the best posters ever at LGF.
re: #30 by Pragmatist
Why are all you guys so obsessed by LGF 01 gat a life talking about it only legitimises it,
Because
1. it is fine
2. the guy who runs the blog goes nuts whenever someone writes something critical about him
3. I can assure you that unlike Sharmuta we do have lives
re: #24 by tee
Speaking of old times, anyone know what happened to Killian Bundy, he still at the old place. He could get on my nerves, but mostly he was good people. He outted Bubble Girl ( she was always taking new id’s), she didn’t mind, but I hated it.
Killian Bundy is still there as is Shiplord Kirel. As for Bubble Girl she had one other nic that I recall – “Amalie”.
re: #38 by Speranza
Wasn’t BG the sister of the bayou king guy who gcp hounded for possible charity fraud during katrina?
Avid, my friend! so glad to see you as a guest poster! That is awesome.
regarding the outting via paypal concept… While i don’t doubt CFnJ would do just that, it’s difficult to prove the concept that paypal was the only way he could have acquired access to the information. It’s kind of like proving a negative. I doubt it would be a successful lawsuit but getting the information out there for the world to see is very important in attempting to protect those who may be similarly violated in the future.
Isn’t BubbleGirl/Amalie hanging out at Discarded Lies? IIRC she was part of that crowd, but I could be wrong.
I get the feeling that Killian Bundy and Shiplord Kirel may be among the next batch of thoughtcriminals to be “vaporized” by Big Lizard.
re: #40 by Kirly
The only way he had my information was through paypal. My real name isn’t “online” anywhere connected to anything remotely political. NONE of the emails I have ever used as “m” have my real name on them. NONE. NEVER. My login was to an aol account (again, not my name), my yahoo has a fake name, my twitter, my digg, myspace, my flickr…
None of them are connected to my person.
Someone would have to show me the search string that found my real name from “m” at lgf. Or Michelle for that matter.
It’s not happening and there is no way to convince me it did unless I see the string.
But paypal doesn’t care. They told me that it was against their TOS, but that they were not responsible for individual vendors. And while telling me that- they suggested I not use that vendor again. They gave me links to report internet crime and fraud prevention and suggested I contact the BBB as well.
re: #42 by m
Did the fcc or bbb do anything? Or did they sit with their thumb up their backside and tell you “Oh, well.” ?
Seriously, why HAVE a tos if you’re not going to do anything when someone openly breaks it?
I thought the final thread mocking the pony tailed loser girly-man was put up last weekend.
Its ok. The thread at Ace where people whacked Chuckles the Dancing Clown like a piñata, that was awesome.
Maybe Chuckles can be a warning about trusting people who don’t share values…
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