If there is any doubt about the Totalitarian nature of the Transnational Progressive movement, this should erase that. A bill proposed by Sen Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) would give our wannabe Dictator Barack Hussein Obama, total control over the Internet. The pretext would be a Cyber emergency. The question I have is what would define this emergency?
Internet companies and civil liberties groups were alarmed this spring when a U.S. Senate bill proposed handing the White House the power to disconnect private-sector computers from the Internet.
They’re not much happier about a revised version that aides to Sen. Jay Rockefeller, a West Virginia Democrat, have spent months drafting behind closed doors. CNET News has obtained a copy of the 55-page draft (excerpt), which still appears to permit the president to seize temporary control of private-sector networks during a so-called cybersecurity emergency.
The new version would allow the president to “declare a cybersecurity emergency” relating to “non-governmental” computer networks and do what’s necessary to respond to the threat. Other sections of the proposal include a federal certification program for “cybersecurity professionals,” and a requirement that certain computer systems and networks in the private sector be managed by people who have been awarded that license.
“I think the redraft, while improved, remains troubling due to its vagueness,” said Larry Clinton, president of the Internet Security Alliance, which counts representatives of Verizon, Verisign, Nortel, and Carnegie Mellon University on its board. “It is unclear what authority Sen. Rockefeller thinks is necessary over the private sector. Unless this is clarified, we cannot properly analyze, let alone support the bill.”
Read the rest.
For years during the Bush Administration, the Progressive attack machine complained about Telecoms cooperating with the government over Terror related issues. They are going beyond anything the previous administration ever did. This is another case of them projecting their goals onto their opponents actions.
This bill must be opposed and hopefully the Grass Root protests that have slowed down the Eugenics based Obamacare, will turn their energies to this. This idea of giving Obama, who has shown dictator like tendencies this power is dangerous for our Republic. The Progressives will stop at nothing in imposing their Neo-Feudal State and silencing their critics. This blog, without question would be on the list to be shut down. We must not let them, write to your congressmen and email this story please! Do it for the sake of our Nation do something about this!
Tags: Internet, Sen. Jay Rockefeller
A whiff of fascism coming from 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Those of you who voted for him or decided to sit the election out – enjoy!
re: #1 by Speranza
Yup, This send chills down my spine.
Something new everyday, isn’t there?
This really frightens me. The won is all about control of every aspect of our lives, and the loons that love him are happy to give over that control.
What we need to do as citizens is figure out a way to communicate with each other if they do indeed cause a blackout on the net. We really do have to be the new Minuetmen – and I don’t mean the border guys!
re: #2 by Rodan
and the media which is supposed to be the publics watch dog will cheer it on (with the exception of Fox).
re: #5 by vapig
re: #4 by newsjunkie_ky
We need to do something about this.
Roses,
If you are reading this, cross post this story if you like.
I think the internet is one thing that should be wild west free in America. There should be no government designed chips in cisco routers. no backdoors. It should not be treated like a government highway system and commandeered in a national emergency.
The free and mostly unrestricted internet is a boon to the rights of individual americans.
If the government wants the ability to search and seize a subdomain on the internet it should do so via the court system and with a specific need about a specific crime.
This is a case where people complaining about warrantless wiretapes just want to do it all the time and label it as security.
In a national emergency govt should just have to deal with their restricted internet access. We shouldn’t become like Iran where in times of dissent the Iranian government was able to GPS track the dissenters via their cell phones.
Cass Sunstein is the other side of this fascist coin.He has even been mentioned as a nominee for the next SCOTUS vacancy.Very disturbing!
http://logisticsmonster.com/2009/04/28/fascists-patrolling-the-internet-cass-sunstein-and-jay-rockefeller/
I see 1.0 banned someone for quoting the Declaration of Independence in support of inhofe saying.
I think this might be true though. Many people are frustrating with their apple carts being turned over by Obama nodded thugs.
This is something the Obama machine would do. Silence dissent so it is out of the way and can’t be talked about. This would also occur in maoist china. 1.0 is becoming little chicago or little china. I don’t think they realize that they should debate something like this and get a compromised consensus. That reduces violence. Instead they are just drifting into sort of a mindless chorus about these things.
I reached a saturation point. I read the 1.0 overnight thread and starting skipping the progressive ludricrous commenters. I think that was 90 percent of the thread. I am not sure why people think it’s a conservative blog.
Why are these people in office?
Yes, it is revolution time, maybe tar and feathers time also.
The first time I called Microsoft about a problem and they remotely took control of my computer I said to myself, someday someone (the won) will use this to control us all.
congress people should not legislate restrictions on the internet. Most of them just learned how to use email. They are twitterless.
re: #11 by bar
She is able to steal taxpayer money and give it to her friends. She just buys votes. Probably as corrupt as hell.
re: #11 by bar
Because at least 52% of voters are ignoramuses.
re: #11 by bar
We should pass a law that gives her a free airplane ticket to Cuba anytime she need healthcare from Cuba or legal advice from Castro.
They’ll get tired of her whining.
re: #12 by newsjunkie_ky
That creeps me out too. Gov.com would dearly love to stuff a lojack up each of our backsides.
re: #10 by orangecrush
LGF is no more of a conservative blog then the Huffington Post.
re: #17 by vagabond trader
They are already trying to get the ban on tracking cookies lifted so the won can track our every cybermove. Scary, scary times are here.
re: #10 by orangecrush
It never was “conservative”, although there were a lot of conservatives there. Rather it was pro-War and pro-USA. A lot has changed.
re: #12 by newsjunkie_ky
All these intense eula’s that state they just rent stuff to you and they still own it.
Software installed on a person’s pc should be legally considered their own whether on disk or in ram.
email addresses should be primarily owned by the user.
No backdoor hardware or software programming allowed on US retailed equipment.
If you buy a copy of a song once, you should be able to copy or obtain it again freely just paying the cost of the new media.
re: #19 by newsjunkie_ky
But but but, we all know that Barack Hussein doesn’t mean to stomp on the Constitution, hes just young and naive./
Channeling the idiocy of lgf 1.0
re: #18 by Speranza
It’s Pro Eugenics, Totalitarian Progressive.
re: #10 by orangecrush
That was a poster (whom I never heard of) named earlwer. According to Kirly she has a list of almost 960 nics that have been banned and I predict that by mid September it will be over 1,000. selrahC hsa a blood lust to get rid of all independent thinkers.
If you did a mini bio of all these czars and advisors which ideologies would they all share.
re: #23 by Rodan
It (LGF) has now become the very thing that it used to denounce and ridicule.
Dude just a thought – don’t over use the term transnational progressive (not that I don’t agree with you, because I actually do agree with you), because it can lose its punch and meaning through over kill.
Just sayin’.
re: #18 by Speranza
LGF is no more of a conservative blog then the Huffington Post.
It never was. I think that what happened with selrahC is that 9-11 sort of woke him up to politics and world events (which, if you look at the pre-9-11 LGF 1.0 archives, mention little about politics other than some occasional Bush-bashing). He recognised Islam as a threat for a while, but even while he was sounding the warning against it, he was simply using Islam as a proxy for his disdain for all religion and religionists. Now that the heat has died down, we’re merely seeing a more politicised version of selrahC who feels he has more leeway to spew his vitriol towards all religion, instead of having to confine it to Islam.
re: #26 by Speranza
How about Globalist Left as an alternative?
re: #25 by vagabond trader
If you did a mini bio of all these czars and advisors which ideologies would they all share.
Probably just slightly to the right of Stalin and to the left of Brezhnev.
How’s the Josephus book coming along?
re: #22 by vagabond trader
I cannot believe that any of the old conservative guard that still cling to the myth that 1.0 will come to it’s senses have any pride left in themselves. I’ve stopped emailing a few of them. They are starting to defend the Indefensible.
selrahC has left the planet. Banning a poster for quoting the Declaration of Independence. Not too long ago there was lively debate about the founding fathers. He and the Sharmuta claimed to be great admirerers of Jefferson et al. Guess that is null and void since the coronation of the anti Constitutional Party.
re: #28 by Rodan
You won’t get any argument from me. However you describe them, they are definitely not American patriots.
re: #19 by newsjunkie_ky
And that ban is there so they can’t google aggregate you and social engineer who you really are. If you commit a heinous crime that the feds track your online discourse will soon be a judicial record. That’s before Obama gets his “cookies ok for tracking minions” on board. Once the anally retentive trackers get a federal government cookie going, there will be IT that finds you and everything you have said on the internet. Even though you didn’t think it could.
And this information will occasionally accidentally slip into the hands of third parties. Someone will lose a laptop.”Accidentally”
That opens up the ability for non accountability in viewing your entire online life.
Want to sign an anti obama petition? Find yourself “Joe the Plumbered” with your employer and the media getting an anonymous copy of your arrest record.
All this stuff is just going to be used to chill individual freedoms.
re: #20 by Iron Fist
IF
I wasn’t fond of the slags thrown my way when you were still at LGF after I was banned, but as others have learned, like Babba Zee, insulting the banned doesn’t guarantee you won’t wind up under the bus yourself.
But I understand the desire to stay in the good graces at a place where you were part of the community. I slagged back, but when I heard you weren’t feeling well, I hoped you’d get better.
And if you’re back posting, I assume you’re health is getting better.
Chuckles is probably full bore mental ill at this point. I don’t think any of the original ‘lizards’ from 5 years ago except the ball-washer Kilgore are still there at ‘Religion Watch’. Or is it ‘Beck Watch’?
re: #31 by vagabond trader
Sharmuta rarely quotes Jefferson any more (in my opinion Jefferson was a bit overrated as president) since someone mentioned that Jefferson believed in Intelligent Design.
re: #29 by Speranza
I’m reading three books at once.Will let you know when I finish, about a week. Fascinating stuff!
re: #19 by newsjunkie_ky
Remember that New Yorker cover with Hussein and the beast on the cover? The one with them standing on the Constitution with the American Flag burning in the fireplace?
It was meant to be satire against all us crazy talking reich-wingers, remember?
Not so darned far-fetched now, is it?
(I’d link the cover, but evidently DoD no likey)
re: #24 by Speranza
I wish kirly would have listed the banned in order of banned instead of alphabetically.
re: #30 by newsjunkie_ky
I cannot believe that any of the old conservative guard that still cling to the myth that 1.0 will come to it’s senses have any pride left in themselves. I’ve stopped emailing a few of them. They are starting to defend the Indefensible.
Alas, Ben Hur, Realwest and the few conservatives still left, still think that they and others can make selrahC see the light. That will never, ever happen (unfortunately).
re: #16 by orangecrush
Amen. The Cubans can have that lazy ass quack job.
By the way, she mentions before we speak ill of Cuban healthcare or the great leader Castro, we need to travel to Cuba and see it for ourselves.
Somebody wake this dumb ass up, earth to Diane Watson, Americans are restricted from traveling to Cuba, you dumb ass.
Also note: she admires mass murderer Che Chevara, democraps are so jealous of the power shit heads like that have.
re: #38 by newsjunkie_ky
That would be too difficult to do. She relies on people feeding her the names and sometimes you cannot tell who has been banned until way after the fact (like weeks). The list of bannees goes back years to bigel, reaganite, American Infidel, Voice from Ireland, etc.
Real West is a lying sack.
He may espouse conservative opinions, but anybody who would lie about his father dying at the WTC would lie about anything.
re: #20 by Iron Fist
1.0 has this superior airs thing going on that some of them openly admit and display. This is a characteristic of overly educated progressives who like to work false class angles into their discussions.
Ivory tower like logic.
They will be the first eaten by the rabble.
re: #42 by Ed Mahmoud
but anybody who would lie about his father dying at the WTC would lie about anything.
I did not know that.
re: #30 by newsjunkie_ky
My ex best friend,a leftist really went over the top after the ascension of The Won. It was like she went poof,instant frothing lunatic. Sad but I had to cut loose,couldn’t trust her, the things she began to parrot. Wow!
re: #39 by Speranza
So true, it is so sad to read as they try to put forth plausible assertions that are so laughable.
re: #38 by newsjunkie_ky
Or put the date beside the name. If put in banned order you’d (or maybe just me) never find a name.
re: #37 by vapig
If that’s Senator DoD you work for, be careful. Especially if he wants to have a sandwich.
re: #40 by bar
The ones that do go travel via a “friendly” country and are shown only what the commies want you to see. Duh!
This site tells the other side of the story.
http://www.therealcuba.com
This just in: Ted kennedy and michael jackson are still dead.
re: #46 by newsjunkie_ky
It’s a home to a lot of them but that “home” is a hostile one to the beliefs that they cherish.
re: #37 by vapig
Here you go my dear.
http://cayankee.blogs.com/cayankee/images/2008/07/16/newyorker_cover.jpg
re: #47 by vapig
Kirly does a great job of gathering the names, that(what you are suggestng) is way too much work for her.
Speranza,
re: kirly. Or banned since last update. I want to see the newly banned.
re: #48 by My5princesses
Senators don’t work for DoD. DoD, I suppose, work for them. They are across the river and don’t come here. If they want to see us, we have to go over there. It’s in the food-chain manual.
It was about five or six years ago, Real West claimed his elderly father rushed past police and firemen to get into the WTC to aid victims, and died when it collapsed.
As a bannee, I can’t find the thread at LGF.
But some of the people at LGF Watch, looking for something embarrasing to what was then a fairly patriotic web site, managed to track down who Real West was by his own descriptions, and also looked at the names and ages of the dead and missing.
BTW, now that Charles Johnson is to the left of Dave Ray and “X” and “Spock” at LGF Watch, why do they still maintain the site?
If there is one blog with less of an excuse to exist than Chuckles, it is LGF Watch. He is one of them now…
re: #54 by newsjunkie_ky
If you got to the comments section of her blog (under Book of the Banned) you will see names of the newly banned). Most of them are newbies (however Carl in Jerusalem and NY Nana are not) or sock puppets. I have never heard of most of the newly banned.
re: #48 by My5princesses
Aw heck! I must be tired! I just “got” what you meant! ew!
re: #56 by Ed Mahmoud
BTW, now that Charles Johnson is to the left of Dave Ray and “X” and “Spock” at LGF Watch, why do they still maintain the site?
If there is one blog with less of an excuse to exist than Chuckles, it is LGF Watch. He is one of them now…
I’ve commented in the the recent past that LGF Watch is irrelevant. LGF is almost as left wing as LGF Watch is! Thanks for the info.
re: #57 by Speranza
Did not know that, thanks.
re: #52 by vagabond trader
I’ll have to check it later. I can’t bring any images up today. I’m not the only one with probs. They must’ve been “tinkering” last night!
re: #55 by vapig
Well, I can certainly understand why they’d want to see you.
I have to cross a couple of rivers if my boss wants to see me.
re: #53 by Speranza
Oh, I know! I was, quite frankly, flattered to make her list. Didn’t think I merited a mention, but there I was!
Have to repost this. Ted Kennedy was a piece of garbage! What kind of lowlife wetbrain would find humor in leaving a young woman to die a horrid death? Oh,I know,the self serving lefturd kind.
Rodan, you have nothing to apologize for!!!!
The jawdropping bit is about halfway in.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaiTipTtbak&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Face.mu.nu%2F&feature=player_embedded
Everyone,
Please send this story out by email to others. This is a danger to our freedom of speech.
Please,
This is important.
Found this:
It is a terrible disgrace. My father died a hero on 9/11 at the age of 79. He was a hero of Iwo Jima as well. He rushed into the buildings to rescue people and never came out. I’ve posted about this on Little Green Footballs. His name is not on any of the 9/11 lists. Please email me to help me get him the hero status he deserves. Thank you.
Posted by: realwest at June 7, 2005 07:15 PM
re: #34 by Ed Mahmoud
How does the line go? I was mislead. Glad there are no hard feelings.
re: #62 by My5princesses
Egad! I don’t go over there! I’m insignificant and happy to be so! No one is this office has to go over there either.
Now my old office here, they were there everyday, a couple times a day, getting their hiney’s chewed by them nasty congresscritters. All politics! I betcha not a one of them is called over there now that it’s Obammy’s war!
re: #56 by Ed Mahmoud
Anonymizer.com or some such configurations.
re: #66 by newsjunkie_ky
Wonder if he would own up to this now. After all selrahC has told the green horde they must shed their anger over 9/11. I mean whats a father, bogus or not./
re: #56 by Ed Mahmoud
I don’t know about all that, but RealWest has always been a good friend to me.
re: #68 by vapig
I don’t always feel that important to my company either, but the girls may me feel very important (maybe cause I’m a sucker).
I was a VP of a small software company in my old job, talked to customers all the time. Now, I work quietly at home. Thank goodness for my dog.
re: #69 by orangecrush
What’s that? Is that the annonymous link so think=gs can’t be traced back to you?
If not, does someone have that link?
re: #70 by vagabond trader
I also found this:
Sherri, I am coming here hoping you can help me. As you have read on Little Green Footballs, my father, a hero of Iwo Jima, died a hero at the World Trade Center. At the age of 79 he ran into the burning buildings to rescue people. He never came out. I have told this story on LGF but people aren’t listening. They feel that because his name isn’t on any of the lists that I am lying. I swear to the Lord God and the Baby Jesus I am Telling The Truth. I need HELP to get the record straight. Please blog about this.
Thank You and May The Lord Continue To Bless This Country.
Realwest.
By realwest, at 12:27 PM
re: #71 by Iron Fist
If what Ed Mahmoud says is true, (and I found the LGF Watch comment on it) then I think it was despicable (and yes I am certain he is a nice guy) but if he made the story up he is a douche nozzle.
There is one WTC victim, Peter M. West – but he was born in 1946. He worked at Cantor Fitzgerald and I seriously doubt that he was realwest’s dad.
re: #72 by My5princesses
Personally, I think you have a very Blessed life and you are aware of it, too!
Good for you! “Seeing” happy contented people actually makes me feel very happy!
Look at this!
Instead of posting about Obama’s Powerg rabs, selrahC is posting on this danger to America!
Meet James Inhofe:
After 9/11, Inhofe’s position was pretty close to Pat Robertson’s — he thought the attacks were divine retribution against the US. He’s compared climate scientists to Nazis. He thinks that US policy toward Israel should be based on the literal text of the Bible.
And that’s just scratching the surface. I’m not just spouting off when I call him a “religious fanatic” — he’s somewhat to the right of Jerry Falwell.
re: #74 by newsjunkie_ky
That is a terrible thing to do. I actually knew someone who died at the WTC.
re: #10 by orangecrush
RE: Banned By Quoting Declaration Of Independence.
While a loozard at The Deflated Football, I would often post, or refer to the Declaration of Independence to get around having to straight come out and mention revolution. Every time I did so however, I would wonder if it were going to get me banned. I was well prepared to open question the logic of banning me for quoting one of the most patriotic documents of American literature.
If what you say is true, and those over at 1.0bama are not seriously questioning LGF’s commitment to America, and her true principles, all just might finally be lost over there.
re: #73 by vapig
Yah It a purchased one. i used it about 9 years ago. They are still in business so that is good. They make your IP addresses anonymous.
You can search anonymous browsing in google and you will get a bunch of free ones. Just have to be careful you don’t get malware from one of them.
Some free anonymous browsing software is blocked along the internet so you just try a different service when you run into one.
It’s a boon if you go to a lot of blogs where they do IP tracking and banning. Or comparing between blogs to social engineer you.
Personally, I find this part of that story pretty disturbing:
Could someone please point me to the clause in the Constitution that gives the federal government the authority to tell a private company who it can hire as a network administrator?
It’s bad enough that we’ve let the FCC dictate what broadcasters can and can’t put on the air, using the twisted legalism that the airwaves they use belong to “the public.” Are we now going to pretend that the Internet does, as well?
If so, you can kiss the First Amendment goodbye, because it’s not much of a leap from there to some “Internet Czar” deciding that any right-of-center websites have to be shut down out of concern for “public safety.”
LGFers are supporting the Bill!
re: #446 Kenneth
What do people think about this:
Bill would give president emergency control of Internet
I think I am glad that they are at least taking the threat seriously. Wasn’t Richard Clark screaming about cybersecurity after 9/11? I didn’t read the bill, but they sure as hell need to be addressing it
re: #79 by WrathofG-d
A couple of them questioned it but dissent was quickly stifled.
re: #77 by Rodan
Typical! This attitude, typical among the irreligious, and anti-religous pretty much comes down to the following:
You can believe in religion fine…but only as far as “I” am going to accept your belief.
I don’t think anyone is in a position to label, or characterize another as being “too religious” when they only repeat what their actual religion teaches. Inhofe (whom I only now just heard of) does not sound like a “religious fanatic” but instead a religious person.
G-d wasn’t joking, that is why He gave us Commandments and not suggestions.
re: #76 by vapig
I have great Joy in my life, and realize the great blessings I have. There’s nothing like seeing your little granddaughter give an ear-to-ear smile every morning when she wakes up.
Can’t put a price on that.
re: #81 by lobo91
Hi Lobo, see my #9,czar already in place. Oh, and guess what, hes also an environut and a “Constitutional Lawyer” married to the repulsive Samantha Power. Are you seeing a pattern here?
re: #84 by WrathofG-d
Amen to that!
Wow. Just wow:
That isn’t a misquote, or taken out of context. The nut at HuffPo, well, read the whole thing. Oh, my.
re: #83 by orangecrush
What most people miss about the Declaration of Independence (and why I love it!), is that its ultimate point is that the VALUES (originally embodied in America) are larger than any static Governmental structure (ie: Country).
It was the founding father’s manifesto AGAINST Countryism over values. It states that when the Government no longer serves the people, it is their G-d given RIGHT to revolt and destroy their Government. Its a shame that it is now used inocrrectly used by Americans as a document of Countryism.
re: #82 by Rodan
What does emergency control of the internet mean to daily activities? Certainly the pentagon needs a private network that is secure against the Russians and the Chinese.
And the broad internet needs protection from DOS attacks in an emergency.
The feds more likely though want enhanced tracking for threat assessment and chatter measurement.
/half serious Then compare that to their cookie database.
re: #86 by vagabond trader
I began seeing a pattern about the time they started announcing who Obama’s advisers were, back during the campaign.
None of this should surprise anyone who’s been paying attention. He’s just doing what he promised to do.
re: #84 by WrathofG-d
Look at this wisdom from Socrates!
re: #651 SnowMonster
Where did I say there was pending legislation? There are groups who have stated openly they would like to replace the Constitution with the Bible- I find them every bit as problematic as other religious fundamentalists trying to impose their will around the world, and certainly don’t want to elect anyone who thinks these groups have the right idea.
For future Refernces:
Socrates=Sharmuta
Plato=Killgore Trout
Aristotle=Gus802
re: #89 by WrathofG-d
Yes it seems odd for 1.0 to dispatch it so easily and not recognize it as something that stands on it’s own for a reason. The context argument they made seems to be a convenient one that fails. I’ll have to read it again. It was a message from the founders to us.
I’m not in favor of revolutions but when Americans talk about it it will get my attention.
re: #90 by orangecrush
That’s the wrong question.
What you should be asking is, “What does ‘emergency’ mean in this context?”
I’m pretty sure we all know the answer to that one, though: “Anything they say it does.”
And that’s the problem.
re: #86 by vagabond trader
Yes, the guy surrounds himself with some of the most Anti-America socialists around, but don’t dare to question the President!
re: #96 by WrathofG-d
1.0bama, bwahahaha, good one Wrath.
re: #93 by Rodan
maybe a 1.0 after the name, lol.
re: #93 by Rodan
Ichabod crane – Cato the elder
re: #28 by Rodan
I like it. “Transnationalist progressive” sounds like polysyllabic mush; “globalist left” is clearer and packs more punch.
Internet security is a great thing, but I don’t trust Obama, at all.
He is the Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers.
Oh, and he is a big tranzi as well
Marcus Aurelius = Irish Rose
re: #77 by Rodan
Take a gander at where 1.0bama gets his tiny opinion from.
http://www.dkosopedia.com/wiki/James_Inhofe
re: #102 by Speranza
selrahC- Caligula
I’m sure there is a nutter or two out there somewhere who might actually believe it, but does even one of the biggest idiots at LGF seriously believe there are Christians who would replace the Constitution and run this country as a theocracy if they could?
Seriously?
re: #88 by Iron Fist
IF, take a listen to my #64 post link. The librals really step on it when they are in “mourning.”
Seneca = HoosierHoops
OT
re: #92 by Rodan
So “Sharmuta” (although hyperbolic, as I haven’t heard of “any groups that wish to replace the constitution with the Bible) proves my point exactly. You can practice your religion only as far as I will allow you, anything past that is “extreme” or “fanatic”.
Another aspect of this logic (which I experienced here as well yesterday) is the equating of Islamist Islam, with Conservative Christianity. Yes they are both religions, but they are hardly the same.
Although imposition of any one religion on the U.S. would be horrible, the imposition of Christianity is far less threatening than Islamist Islam. (I say this as a Jew whose people have suffered under both)
re: #105 by Ed Mahmoud
Even Socrates (Sharmuta) does not believe it. She is just doing her selrahC butt kissing shtick.
Let’s look at what they’ve already done as groundwork:
First, they “leak” a confidential report warning law enforcement agencies that there are right wing whackjobs hiding behind every rock.
Next, they claim that there’s some shadowy group behind the town hall protests (as opposed to the actual shadowy groups that are on the other side-but I digress).
After that, they do some very selective editing of video in order to claim that “white racists” are coming to Obama events armed with scary “assault weapons,” implying that they intend to assassinate him.
Now, they want to be able to take control of the Internet in the event of an “emergency”–such as, one might reasonably assume, a situation where there are crazed right wing whackjob racists running around trying to assassinate the president.
As the old saying goes, just because you’re paranoid it doesn’t mean they aren’t out to get you…
re: #107 by Speranza
Well, Seneca is one of the “Finger(ed) Lakes”.
re: #104 by vagabond trader
Actually selrahC = Domitian is more apt. Domitian was cruel and paranoid. Caligula (Gaius) was just plain nuts.
re: #103 by bar
Maybe another name for 1.0 would be the Daily Kus!
(*Hebrew speakers chuckle)
re: #111 by lobo91
They also believe the rubes haven’t noticed whats going on.Surprise!No wonder The Obama needs an extra vacation, have to regroup the shock troops.
re: #110 by Speranza
I don’t know about that. Right before she assisted in my banning, she was ranting and raving to me that my defense of those who advocate teaching Creation along side Evolution (not the actual teaching of it) was in defense of those whom wished to steal my kids and convert them to Jesus.
re: #80 by orangecrush
Thank you! I’ve been thinking about that alot lately!
The ‘emergency’ takeover of the internet is at the whim of the WH. They can ‘declare’ and emergency, yet do not have to disclose what the emergency actually is.
Criticism, within limits, and contrary-opinion I can take but there are some here with a holier/better than thou attitude that have indicated with smug self-righteousness and as pious, self-appointed speakers-for-all that my comments are unwelcome. It causes me to feel stifled and unable/unwilling to comment any longer to an audience that contains/attracts such people.
So to those who’ve decided they’re the arbiters of thought and conduct and can justify to themselves looking down their nose at me: you win. Hope you’re happy with your little patch of genteel fascism.
re: #109 by WrathofG-d
Even I as a Catholic Christian would never want a Christian imposed dominiation of American Government. There are too many Factions and versions of Christianity to decide which is the correct one.
That is the reason we have freedom of Religion. It is to prevent one faction from imposing it’s views. However, it was not to keep Religion out of Public life, like Progressives claim. The founders recognized Religion as important to the fabric of this nation.
As for Judaism, a true Christian must respect it as my Pagan ancestors where given the knowledge of the true God by a Jewish faction that became Christianity. Jews are a reminder of teh Truth of God.
I am glad that in Ameria, Real Christians and Real Jews have put aside their bad history and recognize that we are both Children of the God of Israel and have much in common. We need each other, Jews and Christians.
That is how I feel.
re: #114 by WrathofG-d
Ok, clue me in….
re: #118 by newsjunkie_ky
Remember when the bedwetters got all wee weed up over W sniffing around their crappy library books?
re: #116 by WrathofG-d
Actually I do not believe that creationism should be taught in school as a fact. I have no problem if teachers want to present the creationism v. evolution argument in Middle School or High School but teaching that God created the earth in 7 days and blew into dust and created Man as an irrefutable fact – is a violation of the separation of church and state. In that way, I do agree with selrahC. Where I disagree with selrahC is in his obsession with and jihad against, people of Judeo-Christian faith.
re: #119 by jakee308
ARE You for real?
What is the issue? As an Admin, I’ll do my best to rectify it.
I want everyone, with all differing points of view to feel comfortable posting here.
Please, explain!
re: #117 by vapig
Vapig, I use mailinator.com.Great if you have to provide an email addy, it works almost everywhere. Its free and you get a mailbox and email address, like a toss away.
re: #102 by Speranza
Irish Rose is The Emperor’s Claudius WHore wife. She competed with a Prostitute to see who can sleep with the most men!
re: #121 by bar
Here is a hint.
re: #116 by WrathofG-d
Sharmuta has no beliefs of her own. If you knew her story you would actually feel sorry for her. LGF is her sole existence and she will not do anything to jeopardize her standing with selrahC. After he caught her updinging herself through a sock puppet and through her husbands (at the time) nic “Bret Favre”, she cried and whined to be let back in and they created “Sharmuta” (she was previously W-lover) for her.
re: #119 by jakee308
Your comments never bothered me for what its worth.
re: #123 by Speranza
You can believe whatever you would like regarding the teaching of Creation in school. I haven’t yet (I don’t believe) publicly stated my position. I only wished to defend those who did, from the ridicule, attacks, and name-calling their were made to endure.
My comment was about how Sharmuta was frantically warning me that the real reason for Creation being taught at all was to allow a cabal to forcible convert my children to Jesus.
re: #126 by Rodan
That would be Messalina. I actually would call her Agrippina the Younger, Nero’s mother who allegedly slept with him, whom he had killed.
re: #119 by jakee308
What user here offended you?
re: #126 by Rodan
Easy bro!
re: #131 by Speranza
Massalina=Irish Rose!
re: #122 by vagabond trader
But that was Bush, this is president messiah. He is only doing what is GOOD for us. I used to get this argument from the loons all the time when the left encroaced on freedoms, it was for the ‘greater good’.
re: #130 by WrathofG-d
My comment was about how Sharmuta was frantically warning me that the real reason for Creation being taught at all was to allow a cabal to forcible convert my children to Jesus.
Even she does not believe that. She was posting for selrahC, not you.
re: #109 by WrathofG-d
Meh…We Christians aren’t much into theocracy. Our Savior established separation of Church and state for us (render unto Caesar that which is Caesar’s).
re: #124 by WrathofG-d
I thought this was a sarc post about a real post at 1.0.
re: #122 by vagabond trader
I wonder how many of those same people support Obama’s plan to make their medical records available to bureaucrats in his healthcare administration?
Andrew Wilkow was going off on that very subject earlier today. The same people who thought government had too much power to intrude into their privacy last year now want the government to have exponentially more power to do the same.
It’s apparently never occured to them that, at some point, conservatives are going to be in charge again.
It makes perfect sense to these morons to allow government to decide whether or not you get medical treatment based on how much soda you drink, but what if conservatives were in charge and decided that people who contract AIDS as a result of homosexual activity didn’t deserve treatment?
re: #130 by WrathofG-d
Didn’t Moses write the book of Genisis? So, those nasty Christians were using Jewish Scripture to convert your kids to Jesus (a Jew himself)?
Oh boy
re: #137 by vapig
Yup, you nailed it!
re: #126 by Rodan
That was one messed up family!
re: #119 by jakee308
Ummmm, did you forget your sarc tag???
Look for this person to be banned from the Philospher’s Club!
Lgf attacks Beck, attacks Palin, mocks the obvious anger that is growing around this country, and basically seems to be doing the work of the fine lady Pelosi. What Gives?
re: #133 by WrathofG-d
You’re right, My bad.
re: #139 by lobo91
Hell, these imbeciles in power now are likely to limit AIDS treatments. Its not as if they actually care about their base, just the votes, then adios useful idiots, you cost too much just like Gramps over there.
re: #144 by Rodan
A short shelf life indeed!
Update – valdez has already been banned. What he wrote was not offensive – only questioning what gives with the attack on conservatives – a perfectly legitimate question.
re: #137 by vapig
Of course, most of the people who talk about such things don’t know much about Christianity, so that point would be lost on them.
Hey so far no major Blogs have this as a story about Obama’s Internet power grab.
re: #149 by Rodan
Weasel Zippers has it.
AoSHQ is just getting around to the Kennedy-Commie connection.
re: #140 by My5princesses
Well actually, It is my understanding that Jews believe that G-d Himself gave the Torah (including Bereshit/ Genesis) to us on Sinai.
So technically, NO Moses did not write it. But I think I get your point.
Trust me….noone is converting my kids to Jesus (not if they know what is good for them at least) and it wouldn’t be by teaching Creation (a concept 1st explained and shared by Jews).
re: #127 by WrathofG-d
G-d bless the kittehs. The two on the treadmill, precious.
re: #149 by Rodan
Rush talked about it today.
re: #150 by vagabond trader
Blogmocracy is ahead of the curve!
See you all later, It’s Happy Hour Friday for me!
$1 beers!
Peace!
re: #151 by WrathofG-d
Of course, their other stupid argument is that allowing any mention of religion in the public schools would open them up to being required to teach about Islam.
Apparently, these people don’t keep up with current events much if they think that’s not already happening.
re: #147 by Speranza
Caligula or fast forward, Henry VIII.
re: #106 by vagabond trader
Wow. I knew the POS named his dog “Splash”, but joked about Chappaquidick? That reminds me of something I saw last night on History. It was a show on prison tattoos, focusing mainly on the Aryan Brotherhood of Texas. They interviewedan AB hitman about a man he murdered, and he told the story with mild amusement in his voice.
The clinical term is “sociopath”. Sounds like St. Teddy of the KGB was another one.
re: #151 by WrathofG-d
Well, I’m certainly not offended by you or my co-workers sharing your faith with me, and if I remember correctly, you’re one crazy ass armed Jewish individual.
Have a wonderful weekend with your fam.
re: #155 by lobo91
Yes. I’ve heard that one as well, and yes it is a silly argument. There would be no need to teach anything about Islam unless it was in context. I’m not sure it would be ‘in context’ regarding the founding of the U.S., and in teaching Creation, they believe (I believe) what Christians and Jews do, so…no harm there….
However, I’m all for teaching about Islam as long as they are being honest when doing so.
re: #140 by My5princesses
Those evil Christians….
How are you doing? I couldnt get back in last night to say hi.
re: #157 by Iron Fist
If I were to guess I’d say most politicians display sociopathic tendencies to a greater or lesser degree.
re: #157 by Iron Fist
They spoke of him in such reverential tones, as if what a great man to be able to deal with killing someone by laughing about it. Like he was the victim. The leftist is a souless creature.
Now I don’t feel bad about saying they should have given him a burial at sea just as he did with Mary Jo Kopechne.
re: #159 by WrathofG-d
Ahh, well the muslims already claim they were instrumental to the foundation of the united states…
re: #158 by My5princesses
I truly love learning about other peoples faith, especially Christianity (something that affects my life daily, but I know very little about). Learning doesn’t necessarily mean converting. Knowledge is never a bad thing. This is why I have read the entire Koran, most of the Buddhist Teachings, and have studied Taoism, Buddhism, Tantra, and many others.
As to the “crazy ass armed Jewish individual” yes, I do own, and advocate the ownership, of guns.
Thank yoU!
re: #163 by archonix
Well, that’s true. They helped us break in our brand new Marine Corps. It was right neighborly of them.
re: #156 by vagabond trader
Caligula or fast forward, Henry VIII.
Yes the murderous Henry VIII of his last few years. I still prefer Domitian (81- 96 A.D. as emperor). Domitian was so paranoid that he had his palaces made with marble so they could reflect behind him so he could see any potential assassin sneaking up on him. He also demanded that people refer to him as “Lord and God”.
re: #162 by vagabond trader
The guy said it was Teds “favorite” line of jokes. It was sick to begin with, but that really takes the cake.
re: #166 by Speranza
lol, ok that is weapons grade paranoid, you win!
Good afternoon, y’all!
re: #162 by vagabond trader
I thought something similar. They speak of him as though he were some combination of saint and super-hero. At best he was just another senator. One of 100, albeit one with a lot of influence with the Democrat wing of the Senate. He is no real big loss, nor will he be long missed, no matter what the talking-heads of punditry say today.
re: #160 by bar
I’m doing ok, but I’ve learned your body doesn’t heal so well when you get old.
It is about 75 and rainy here today. Looking forward to a good weekend, am going to take this 14 year old out to shoot the .243 I bought for him. He must have been reading up about bullet weight, velocity and was asking me these questions. I told him when hunting deer in PA, that stuff won’t matter if you can’t hold the gun steady cause you’re excited.
You have to breath deep, and squeeze once you got the target.
I’m getting excited for him.
I guess it ain’t raining out there, but it’s probably about 75 anyway.
re: #167 by bar
He will now find out that the great equalizer is not socialism.
re: #169 by goddessoftheclassroom
{Goddess!} If you have a chance check out the vid Wrath posted at #127. Kitteh silliness.
Hello Goddess!
re: #172 by vagabond trader
That he will.
Another thing that’s sickened me about the fawning coverage of him is the constant descriptions of him as being a “devout Catholic.”
I haven’t been to Mass in about 20 years, but I’d be willing to bet that I’m a better Catholic than he was.
re: #171 by My5princesses
I here that, my old body is just old and tired.
That shooting is going to be fun, I will never forget my first time.
75, I wish. Maybe by 3:00am we will hit a low of 75.
High today was 104.
re: #175 by lobo91
Same thing I said to my ex Catholic hubby!
re: #164 by WrathofG-d
Well, to my description, you can change Jewish to Christian and add Pickup driving, dog loving also.
The easiest way I can describe Christianity is that things were already done for you, you just have to accept Christ. The foundations are all based on Judaism’s rich history, it’s just without the rules.
I liken it to golf. The Jewish country club is an old course with beautiful fairways and gigantic trees and a wonderful clubhouse. Our Golf course is much newer, the trees are still growing, we hit more shots in the rough, and our clubhouse is more burger and fries.
Every once in awhile, we sneak over onto your course to learn a few things.
We both love Golf.
I don’t know if that makes any sense,
and BTW, you’re welcome
re: #173 by vagabond trader
Oh, I saw it–and loved it!
re: #176 by bar
104, I thought San Diego had purrrfect weather.
I’m beginning to think the weather around here is nicer.
BBL Have fun.
re: #179 by goddessoftheclassroom
The two on the treadmill cracked me up. The vet put my big boy on a kitteh diet and told me to “increase his aerobic exercise.” Looks like the ticket!
re: #181 by newsjunkie_ky
see ya newsjunkie!
re: #182 by vagabond trader
My dog will glady play with big boy, my 12 year old’s cat is pushing 20 lbs and he and the dog are best buds.
re: #180 by My5princesses
I wish I lived in San Diego.
Simi Valley, home of the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library.
And the Rodney King cop trials.
re: #176 by bar
OT:
You have any clue how to add a “page break”/”see more” tab into a Thread?
I’m putting something together and….
re: #186 by WrathofG-d
No I don’t.
There is a button for it on the dashboard but I cant get it to work for me. And have yet to figure out how Lance does it.
I guess Pope Benedict has nothing nice to say about the DWI Killer.
re: #119 by jakee308
For what it’s worth, I enjoy reading your comments.
re: #185 by bar
Well, I’m glad I don’t live any closer to Philadelphia, but I do live near here. I walk my dog along the Hay Creek that’s mentioned.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Birdsboro,_Pennsylvania
Have a great weekend all!
Wrath, happy golfing.
re: #50 by newsjunkie_ky
What?! When???!! How??? Do you suppose the news will report on their passing?
/ha ha ha (being silly)
Ack
Kennedy’s funeral will include Biden, McCain, Kerry, and a eulogy from Barack Obama calling for the granting of Kennedy’s final dream- Marxist Medicine.
re: #184 by My5princesses
Hes a red 16 pounder,abandoned 3 years ago by students after school ended at UConn.He shook all over for a week, poor fella is a big fraidy cat.I suspect they abused him terribly.Loves the old man and me, purrs constantly.Would love a mutt, too traumatic for the lil moose.
re: #151 by WrathofG-d
I’m behind on this thread (gub’mint puter kept kicking me out that last hour at work) but only someone who doesn’t know a thing about Christianity (no you – Sharmuta) would say such an ignorant thing.
Accepting Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior can never be compulsory (yeah – I know all about that Constitine dude. He was wrong) it HAS to be by choice. No forcing is allowed or accepted!
/ carry on…..
re: #192 by Ed Mahmoud
Funeral’s tomorrow, huh?
Maybe I’ll be able to turn on my TV set by Monday without fear of vomiting…
re: #84 by WrathofG-d
I agree totally with what you said.
It’s amusing to me that someone who is agnostic or atheist (such as Johnson is) makes those sorts of statements.
I’m sure to many Non-believers (at least the militant, cranky types), that even a small or brief reference to God or other religious stuff expressed publicly (or even in private, if they’re being honest) is considered to be “religious fanaticism.”
I’m sure that simply because I am a creationist that Johnson (or “nosnhoJ”?) would think that alone makes me a “religious extremist.”
That I believe in the Bible, read it, pray, celebrate Christmas, believe in Jesus and God, and that I believe God acts in human affairs -also probably makes me a “religious wacko” in his mind.
re: #193 by vagabond trader
I know he’s being loved now. We took in a stray about 14 years ago that my wife “had to have”. My wife left this kitten in the house, then I had to take it out. Bad move! After she bit and scratched me, I threw a jacket over her and took her outside.
Another time, the neighbors dog chased her up a Hemlock tree (the kind with branches every 6 inches), and I was told to save her. It wasn’t enough to get scratched navigating the branches, the kitten bit me again.
I kept them both, or they kept me I guess, but that cat wants me to pet her every day (now if only the wife …….)
Apologies if this has been posted before. I laughed my butt off. Oprah and Obama! I Oh No
/not literally.
re: #196 by CloudyDay
HERE!!!
/religious, creationist, fundamentalist Christian whacko raising hand!
re: #196 by CloudyDay
Its not just Mr. Johnson. I have found that this is really the rub between religious people, and anti/non-religious people (for the most part).
Those who do not believe grant lip-service to one’s Right to believe, and have religion. Actually having the belief, acting on it, speaking about it, and living it are acceptable only to the extent that the non-religious person is comfortable with. Since they are non-religious by definition, that usually means that anything other then the lip-service to religion would be considered “extreme” or make the Believer a “religious fanatic.”
For example: you can believe in G-d. But if you voice that you wish to follow what G-d has told you, you are an “extremist” if that following doesn’t jibe with the listeners non-religious tendencies. Now if your belief in G-d manifests itself, in something more than just a belief, you are definately considered crazy, and a “fanatic”.
This is the case of Inhofe (from the comments at 1.0). Ok, the non-religious will allow him to read the Bible, and believe in G-d. But if there is an actual manifestation of the belief -such as believing G-d gave the land to Jews, or actually believing what the Bible/G-d says (ie: Creation) you are a “fanatic”.
Accordingly, this leaves the Believe with a lose/lose situation, or nothing more than lip-service.
They can say you believe fine, but come on now….don’t really believe it!
BTW: This Thread is Just About To Kick Me Out. Let’s Continue On The Up Coming OPEN THREAD!
I know that just about everyone here hates Ted but I do not hate him I disagree with just about anything he did in the Senate but when my wife needed surgery in Baltimore and the insurance company said no, all it took was a phone call to Ted and the denile of service went away and she has had many operations there. My family goes a long way back with his.
re: #196 by CloudyDay
Speaking only for myself, and from a Pagan viewpoint — I’m fine with public display of your religion, and I will be respectful. I’ll also be happy to discuss it, if you want, as long as you don’t try aggressive proselytizing. (I’m even polite to Jehovah’s Witnesses and Mormon missionaries who come to my door, as long as I’m not busy and they are polite.)
I must admit I do get annoyed at folk who think I don’t know the Bible because I’m not Christian, and try to argue me into converting on that basis, but we can go into that later, if you care to. It’s a courtesy thing, mostly.
re: #192 by Ed Mahmoud
My bet is they turn the funeral into a big pep-rally the way they did Wellstone’s. They don’t learn from their mistakes, and, besides, it is too big an ooppertunity not to make the big pitch again, since Obamacare seems headed towards Hillarycare territory right now.
re: #201 by BBEV
I never hated Ted Kennedy although I thought that he was harming this nations security and its society. I herd that his offices in Mass. were quite good for constituent services.