At the rate this is going, Al Gore’s tithe check is going to start getting mighty small. This time, the German Helmhotz Association of National Research Centres has left the flock, issuing a short position statement about the correlation between solar activity and climate change - Small fluctuations in solar activity, large influence on the climate,
Sun spot frequency has an unexpectedly strong influence on cloud formation and precipitation
Our sun does not radiate evenly. The best known example of radiation fluctuations is the famous 11-year cycle of sun spots. Nobody denies its influence on the natural climate variability, but climate models have, to-date, not been able to satisfactorily reconstruct its impact on climate activity.
Researchers from the USA and from Germany have now, for the first time, successfully simulated, in detail, the complex interaction between solar radiation, atmosphere, and the ocean. As the scientific journal Science reports in its latest issue, Gerald Meehl of the US-National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR) and his team have been able to calculate how the extremely small variations in radiation brings about a comparatively significant change in the System “Atmosphere-Ocean”.
Katja Matthes of the GFZ German Research Centre for Geosciences, and co-author of the study, states: „Taking into consideration the complete radiation spectrum of the sun, the radiation intensity within one sun spot cycle varies by just 0.1 per cent. Complex interplay mechanisms in the stratosphere and the troposphere, however, create measurable changes in the water temperature of the Pacific and in precipitation”.
Top Down – Bottom up
In order for such reinforcement to take place many small wheels have to interdigitate. The initial process runs from the top downwards: increased solar radiation leads to more ozone and higher temperatures in the stratosphere. “The ultraviolet radiation share varies much more strongly than the other shares in the spectrum, i.e. by five to eight per cent, and that forms more ozone” explains Katja Matthes. As a result, especially the tropical stratosphere becomes warmer, which in turn leads to changed atmospheric circulation. Thus, the interrelated typical precipitation patterns in the tropics are also displaced.
The second process takes place in the opposite way: the higher solar activity leads to more evaporation in the cloud free areas. With the trade winds the increased amounts of moisture are transported to the equator, where they lead to stronger precipitation, lower water temperatures in the East Pacific and reduced cloud formation, which in turn allows for increased evaporation. Katja Matthes: “It is this positive back coupling that strengthens the process”. With this it is possible to explain the respective measurements and observations on the Earth’s surface.
Professor Reinhard Huettl, Chairman of the Scientific Executive Board of the GFZ (Helmholtz Association of German Research Centres) adds: “The study is important for comprehending the natural climatic variability, which – on different time scales – is significantly influenced by the sun. In order to better understand the anthropogenically induced climate change and to make more reliable future climate scenarios, it is very important to understand the underlying natural climatic variability. This investigation shows again that we still have substantial research needs to understand the climate system”. Together with the Alfred Wegener-Institute for Polar and Marine Research and the Senckenberg Research Institute and Natural History Museum the GFZ is, therefore, organising a conference “Climate in the System Earth” scheduled for 2./3. November 2009 in Berlin.
What a novel idea….the sun has an impact on the earth’s climate??? It’s so crazy it can’t be true!
Besides, this report is easily dismissable. The “Helmholtz Association” is probably just a creationist front group funded by Mark Sanford, Ron Paul, Sarah Palin, and Glenn Beck.
Tags: Global Warming, Science
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I heard that the book “It’s the Sun Not Your SUV Stupid” is a good read. Think I’ll pick it up at the library sometime.
re: #1 by BenZs Bat
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Do you really need to?
::snicker:: Gee, here I can even say the sun has much more impact on our ever-changing climate than man’s activity on the world’s land mass (under 30% of planetary surface)does!
Yes, I guess that makes me an AGW Denier.
And warming is better for the planet’s inhabitants than cold is, anyway. So there!
(Yes, I’m feeling snarky at the moment. Maybe I’d better call it quits and go away until morning.)
This heresy won’t play well with the faithful. When Global Warming “science” conflicts with reality, reality must, perforce, give way.
No, this won’t play well with the faithful at all.
don’t worry, these are germans, I’m sure Charles and Gore will superimpose a picture of the guy with a nazi flag, then call him a racist and then it’lk be ok to ignore him.
Hey, sorry, OT.
Just checked our FB page and do you all realize there is a link to an LGF 1.0 group? You can read all their posts, names, etc. I have to assume that a link to us may appear on their page. I no likey!
re: #6 by vagabond trader
We have a FB page? Link, please?
re: #6 by vagabond trader
Thats why I did a anonymous FB account. I am looking at the 300+ lizards. If I can see them, they can see me.
re: #7 by Iron Fist
http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#/group.php?gid=119674389161
I’d bet even Mike Tyson doesn’t believe in this man made global warming hoax.
Killgore and Sharmuta, they’re buying it.
But then again, nobody has ever accused them of being as smart as Mike Tyson.
re: #8 by bar
I take that back, LGF 1.0 on FB is an open group, LGF 2.0 is not.
re: #8 by bar
According to the FB page for LGF (not 2.0) it is an open page, ours is closed.
You beat me to it.
A good, if long, article in JPost. I think she nails it. Obama intends to abandon Israel to the mercy of Iran as soon as he can find a way to sell that to the voters.
Or at least hide it from them.
So I guess the science is not so settled after all. And there is no consensus. The science is still going on and reaching conclusion the AGW people want to hide from. All those scientists…. So wrong… What will they do with themselves now?
Clouds… DoH!!!!!! who would have thunk that they couldn’t model clouds correctly.
I imagine most AGW scientists will ignore this report as they accuse the “deniers”. The accusers now become the deniers. That will be fun. Calling some pro AGW scientist a denier.
re: #10 by bar
re: #11 by BenZs Bat
Thanks, I finally figured that out!
re: #9 by Skippy I think once someone buys into AGW, they are stuck with the party line. Few can escape the quicksand of their fellow party members.
re: #6 by vagabond trader
ours is a secret group, won’t show.
re: #16 by LanceKates
Found out and also the names of a lot of 1.0ers, bwhahahahaha!
re: #8 by bar
So what do I have to do to join, the link takes me to the FB account I set up last night?
re: #12 by Iron Fist
Caroline Glick is brilliant, love her.
I am very curious as to why Charles started becoming an aggressive climate change devotee.
re: #19 by vagabond trader
Charles used to link to Caroline Glick all the time (as well as Mark Steyn). Not any more.
When I left my place to get dinner at 7:30PM it was all about Ted Kennedy on the boob tube, now that I am back – it is still all about Ted Kennedy (Fox News Channel).
re: #18 by Bordm
must be invited, as it is a secret group, as 1.0 has a history of publishing private information online as a silencing tactic.
re: #23 by LanceKates
Check your FB page
re: #23 by LanceKates
So, invite, you’re administration.
re: #9 by Skippy
I’d bet even Mike Tyson doesn’t believe in this man made global warming hoax.
Killgore and Sharmuta, they’re buying it.
But then again, nobody has ever accused them of being as smart as Mike Tyson.
Sharmuta would believe that the Washington Nationals and the Pittsburgh Pirates are the two best teams in Baseball if selrahC said that they were.
re: #23 by LanceKates
Even then be careful of your online information. Password your flickr etc. Don’t give out what city you live in unless don’t worry bout that typeof stuff.
I was looking at 1.0 and someone had posted a picture of their vacation home. Clicking it lead to their flickr site. In the flickr site was everything you needed to track the person down. And also hack their accounts. Pet names, kids names…. not a wise thing to do.
re: #12 by Iron Fist
There is nothing in Obamas background that I am aware of that shows he supports Israel. His foreign policy is a blundering around make friends with enemies attempt without a lot of savvy. I imagine he is leaning on a czar a lot. I don’t think so much so on Hilary. I think she is marginalized and mostly for show.
re: #27 by orangecrush
Amazing what supposedly smart people will reveal. Did you read about Bernacke’s wife having her purse stolen in DC? They had their IDs taken by a professional theft ring. The Fed chairman for crying out loud!Foolish woman had her SS card in the purse,her checks with full address and phone number. This is the guy who controls the economy.
Folks,there is absolutely no reason to have your social security card on your person. Keep it home or better yet in a safe deposit box.
re: #28 by orangecrush
Obama has hung around Israel haters all his life. However there is enough pro Israel sentiment in the House, Senate and in the public opinion that I believe will hold his feet to the fire (at least in his first term).
Oh my, I’m becoming a Sharmuta, its almost 10pm.
Time to do some reading. Good nite!
I want to live in, and pass on to my children and their children, a pollution free world. I believe we do have an impact on our environment (But changing the weather? The jury is still out on that!)and we are charged with being good stewards of this planet. I’ve seen pollution in the most remote places. We do make a difference.
But I will not buy the globalist-liberal-socialist-economic-control-grabbing-GLOBAL WARMING BULLSHIT AGENDA.
It is social engineering at its worst.
Waiting for the “Crying Dolphin Commercial”……
This is hilarious. Remember yesterday when I mentioned that Irish Rose although delinking Hot Air, still had Captain’s Quarters on her blog roll? I wrote that Captain’s Quarters was run by Ed Morrissey who is now an administrator of Hot Air and that Captain’s Quarters had been closed since 2007 and that if you clicked on CQ it would take you directly to Hot AIr. I predicted that Irish Rose the next day would take CQ off her blog roll since she is a huge fan of LGF 2 and reads it every day. Well guess what? Captains Quarters is no longer on her blog roll!
re: #20 by Speranza
I am not positive, but the changed seemed to happen right after him starting his personal “creation” crusade. He whined about the Panda’s Thumb (pro-evolution / Gorebal Warming “science” website) making observations about LGF.
Sharm flew over PT and straightened them all out. Yeah right.
They laughed at LGF. Seems like ever since then he has flip-flopped on his original position.
Now maybe that was his original position, except he always posted anti-Gorebal warming articles. Maybe he was too afraid to go against his own posters.
Also this guy ( Timothy Sandefur ) from PT is a lizard.
I accused Timothy Sandefur of trying to lend false credence to 1.0’s “creation” crusade.
Irish Rose also posted her real name on the public LGF facebook page.
Didnt she also claim that Savage and Rodan’s info was public, so its fair play?
I wonder what her reaction will be if the tables are turned?
re: #32 by IslandLibertarian
You nailed it. It’s all about control of our lives by our betters.
I remember years ago when selrahC had a sense of humor.
Now that he’s
had a lobotomya raving leftist, the sense of humor is gone.Coincidence?
I don’t think so.
re: #35 by bar
She also made public the fact that her Wee Wee smells, and she dribbles a bit.
Oh the fun of “Public” info….
re: #35 by bar
Paula l (Irish Rose), Andrea (SHarmuta) and Bill (Defenseman/Hoosier Hoops)
That’s their names!
re: #32 by IslandLibertarian
There’s a big pile of crap and plastic floating out in the Pacific. All this AGW talk and funding is obscuring the ability to clean it up.
re: #29 by vagabond trader
no but if a thief takes Bernacke’s identity it might actually improve the economy.
re: #39 by Rodan
What makes you think Hoosier is Defenseman? I don’t care either way, I was just wondering.
re: #42 by m
Let’s just say one of the Newbies confirmed it was Bill. I heard it from at least 4 people but Bill told someone, before that person was banned.
It’s Bill [edited by m] who is Defenseman.
re: #35 by bar
What is the LGF facebook url?
re: #27 by orangecrush
Yup, it is already common knowledge that my nick is my name and that I’m in okc.
It is also common knowledge that I am never unarmed.
re: #38 by Possum