From the guy who wanted to set up that creepy summer camp where he could affirm atheist kids in their social autism, comes the astoundingly presumptious notion that simply by simply translating his books in Arabic, the Islamic world will convert to evolutionism – Professor Richard Dawkins Wants to Convert Islamic World to Evolution
The author of The God Delusion and The Selfish Gene, whose new book, The Greatest Show on Earth, is serialised in The Times next week, has topped bestseller lists all over the world but never in a predominantly Muslim country.
None of Professor Dawkins’ books, on evolution as well as religion, has ever been translated into Arabic, and his work has been heavily censored in Turkey. In an interview with The Times, he said that popularising evolution in the Islamic world, where creationist beliefs are strong, was a challenge he is keen to take up. “To be a bestseller in a Muslim country would be a personal triumph,” he said.
“I would like to see my books translated into Arabic. They haven’t been. They are all translated into Hebrew. Persian, I’m not sure. My books are translated into Turkish and they regularly get censored and suppressed.
“The experience of my Turkish publisher of The God Delusion was that he was threatened with arrest for blasphemy. He may even have been arrested, and my website has been banned in Turkey. I feel amused really. There’s something to be said for being suppressed, it makes people want to read you.”
Talk about misplaced priorities. Nevermind trying to get them to, you know, stop beheading people and setting off carbombs and stuff. We have to get them all to believe in evolution. Yeah, that’s the ticket. Because nobody who believes in evolution ever beheaded anyone (….they just marched them into gas chambres by the millions).
What is with these nutters who don’t seem to care about the threat of Islamism, but they’ve all fired up that some kid might not believe that we evolved from sea cucumbers?
Good grief.
Tags: atheists, dawkins watch, Islamists
One word. FAIL
Oh and (don’t ban me for it) Seconds
ummm….wellllll…..ahhhh….
this is gonna work how?
evo/creation debate is pointless.
FAITH CANNOT BE ARGUED, PERIOD!!!
Atheists are monumental egotists, narcissists and all round megalomaniacs. Thus they think ANYTHING they say or do MUST BE THE RIGHT THING as how could such perfect people as themselves make any mistakes? If this sounds like anyone you know or have heard of; run, do not walk away from them. (Charles Johnson, Barrack Hussein Obama, Denny Hoyer, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid, Michelle Obama, Teddy Kennedy, well you get the picture).
Apropos of nothing at all; I was struck this evening by the thought that it can all be blamed on women’s short hair cuts. It used to be the older a woman got the shorter she cut her hair (and it turned blue) now the age of the woman getting the short haircut is getting younger and younger. Even discounting the increase in Lesbians, this is disturbing. I think that the length of a woman’s hair is an indication of her desire/need/willingness to have sex with a man. (not necessarily her own). If you have short hair and are under 25 and cute as a button, you don’t count unless of course you’re Lesbian (that means you Sharmuta, Medaura).
So what do you think? Is the general trend of women having shorter hair indicative of a “malaise” throughout the country towards the procreation of the AMERICAN WAY or am I just a sexist pig?
re: #4 by jakee308
WOW!!!
JUST WOW!!! gimme a few minutes to digest
Perhaps, I should have used a /sarc tag at the end but I’m halfway serious. Is there such a thing as a halfsarc tag?
Also, I submit as anecdotal evidence, women’s hair gets shorter when: they are in politics, in government, divorced and over 45, involved in “the social good”, political activism and gender studies.
There is a similar correlation with a man’s career/life pursuits and his hair but it’s not as obvious with lots of examples(at least to me). Generally when a man’s hair gets longer (this includes facial hair) it is an indication of a “liberalization” of his political and economic attitudes. N’est ce pas?
re: #7 by jakee308
i agree, and have anecdotal evidence to back it up.
re: #6 by jakee308
half sarc, letseee…
.5/S howz that?
Hitler, Stalin and Mao where Darwinists, so believing in Evolution doesn’t stop violence.
re: #11 by Rodan
That is too easy. God denying is an age old fad for pushing socialist crap.
re: #11 by Rodan
believing in divine retribution for heinous sins can trend one into NOT killing 6million jews, or 32 million innocent people (remember the ukraine), or million’s for a great leap forward.
at least if yer killin an enemy that does not follow your god, then ya have an excuse.
Remember, Dawkins is a radical lefty, and a bit of a hero to Charles. Dawkins is the one that Ben Stein made into a wacko when Dawkins said that there is one of a large number of causes for life, from random accident to alien planting of dna, anything but ‘god’!
Charles started his anti-ben stein rants then and Dawkins was constantly quote by Charles.
Charles got upset with me when I started pointing out that Dawkins was a hardcore lefty.
re: #12 by song_and_dance_man
And we all know where that winds up.
re: #15 by jakee308
Charles politely informs you that while he respects your position, he might see things in a different light, and a civil debate ensues?
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re: #16 by Bumr50
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!
Muzzies flee in terror! Here come the bionic Jews!
re: #18 by BenZacharia
Robojew! i love it.
hamas should be very scared! i wonder how this will play into the muslim’s twisted world view?
The Jews have always been in the forefront of Artificial Men.
re: #18 by BenZacharia
Amazing where our technology is leading us as a being.
I’ve been waiting for Icarus to take Obama to task for invoking God in his quest to take over the nation’s healthcare.
What’s that I hear? *crickets*
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Obama is a partner with God you know. The Messiah.
re: #20 by jakee308
Funny Golem book.
re: #23 by 88Cid
No, in Maobama’s view, God works for him.
CRITICISM OF TEH WON™ IS VERBOTEN!
CITIZENS WHO COMMIT OBAMACISM WILL BE REPORTED TO THE LOCAL KAPOS KOUNCIL FOR REINDOCTRINATION SEMINARS AT A LOCAL KAPO KOUNCIL KAMP!
RETURN TO YOUR AUTHORIZED WORK STATION AND CONTINUE THE GLORIOUS STRUGGLE AGAINST REACTIONARIANISM AND STATIRICISM IN THE NAME OF TEH WON!
re: #24 by Bumr50
AH, yes. Read them all at least 3 times.
re: #26 by jakee308
LONG LIVE THE REVOLUTION!
re: #26 by jakee308
Your caps lock was not big enough, I doubt your true faithfulness to the cause.
I’m reporting you to the secret replacement email for flag @ Whitehouse.gov.
It is only for TRUE believers….
re: #28 by coldwarrior
remember, remember… the 5th of November..
re: #30 by LanceKates
guy fawkes day!
i like it!
Russian Revolution and 80 years of repression and failed Socialist programs = 20 million dead.
Chinese Great Leap Forward and Cultural Revolution == 65 million dead.
Obama’s ‘Heathcare and Insurance Reform’ === 65 million Seniors sick and/or dead and 235 million enslaved to failed Big Government ‘Health and Welfare’ programs.
re: #29 by LanceKates
I recommend snitchwatch@whitehouse.gov/b.hussien/I’m.not.what.you.think.I.am/dot.LOL
re: #32 by jakee308
32+ million, it looks closer to 36 for russia.
oh, and u forgot that the VA wanted to tell the old vets to just die. dont be a drain on the system.
re: #34 by coldwarrior
They kept ‘misplacing’ my father’s test strips, so for about 4 months he couldn’t test his blood sugar.
re: #35 by LanceKates
the VA is a mess. it isnt their fault, they dont have the resources to do their job…
just like what will hapen to all of us under 0bamacare!
a real nightmare is the CHAMPUS system!
re: #33 by song_and_dance_man
I really think that we’re going to have a hard time if this google lawsuit pans out and it becomes precident to bring legal action against opinion on blogs.
I’m sure 1.0 is chomping at the bit to silence us.
re: #36 by coldwarrior
That’s because the federal government doesn’t have a right to run any healthcare.
There is a specific reason for that. MUCH harder to sue the government than to sue a private company, so there’s no one to go to when the government screws up.
Want to scare a Democrat? Two Words:
TORT REFORM!
re: #39 by jakee308
I prefer “I’m Armed.”
not only does it freak them out, but they start to babble and froth at the mouth.
Kind of like when you tell an atheist “I’m a creationist.”
re: #4 by jakee308
Uh. Oink?
re: #37 by LanceKates
Just put an ‘that’s just my opinion’ at the end of any comment.
Of course that’s just my opinion.
re: #38 by LanceKates
re: #36 by coldwarrior
I’ve had an epiphany, I am no longer an Economic Populist. I have embraced Free Markets, I have realized that when the Government tries to intervene for a good reason, someone like Obama comes and does this for Control.
It’s all about Freedom from Control.
re: #42 by jakee308
the lawsuit WAS an opinon. The lawsuit was based on someone saying that a model was a skank.
The lawsuit forces google to reveal the contact information for the blogger so that the model can sue.
Over an opinion. He called her a skank and said she was old.
If THAT leads to a lawsuit and the publication of private information, what about when someone goes up against liberals instead of air-headed models?
re: #37 by LanceKates
not so fast…libel is stooopid hard to prove, and oppinion is protested speech as long as it is stated that it is opinion ahead of time.
for instance, you can say that cj is a control freak who dislikes disagreement.
you cannot say that he has embezzled funds from organization X.
re: #41 by OKshoot
Why? I didn’t say it was a bad thing and I indicated that men’s length of hair also correlated somewhat to their political views.
As with all generalities (this being one of them) there are always exceptions and the label of stereotype can be applied but there is a reason for stereotypes — a large number of examples can be found.
Besides, later, I indicated it was a half-sarc comment.
of course, that’s my opinion.
re: #43 by Rodan
I’ve never been a ‘populist’ . .. I’ve come to learn that people are sheep and greedy ones at that.
The only way to use their greed to do positive things is to open up a free market in which if they want to embrace their greed and attain more, all they have to do is produce.
The government mucks that up when the federal government ignores its constitutionally-devised boundaries in order to try and horn in on the money and power.
re: #44 by LanceKates
quick lookup herere
Cohen maintained she had been defamed by the blogger who posted photos of her, along with derogatory comments. The blog was entitled “Skanks in NYC.”
re: #43 by Rodan
free markets )capitalism) works everytime its tried.
the restraints on captialism (fanniemae/freddiemack red line mortgages) cause the market (capitalism) to fail.
re: #45 by coldwarrior
You and I agree, I’m just saying the results of the lawsuit against google.
The supermodel sued google to release the information saying it was defamation of character, so that she could get the blogger’s name and sue the blogger directly.
The judge in the case agreed and forced google to release he information.
It is VERY dangerous and the ruling can and will lead to internet censorship by government mandate (and fear of lawsuit)
re: #48 by coldwarrior
yup. HIs opinion was that she was too old to be model and she was a skank.
and he is going to have to go to trial for it.
If that is the case, what more is there for us who speak out against these leftists?
Expect this to lead to persecution of folks like us.
Not right away, give people time to forget the stupidity of this particular case, so that the precedent seems more sound than foolish.
re: #50 by LanceKates
what were the derogatory comments against the model? you cant call someone a rapist, you can say that you think they are stoopid.
re: #44 by LanceKates
Actually, no. As I read what was reported, the guy being sued formulated his comments (note the plural) as FACT! No opinion or satire or speculation could be inferred.
Also, I believe this suit will be dropped as the best defense for libel/slander is the truth and the defense is allowed to do EXTENSIVE DEPOSITIONS to discover ANY actions or words that could be said to indicate that she is/was a skank. Besides paraphrasing what Bill Clinton said so famously; “It depends on what the meaning of skank is”. This has to be argued and the defendant gets to depose her, her friends, her ex-lovers, those who SAY they’re her ex-lover, her relatives and anything she’s ever said or written.
Defense lawyers will come out of the woodwork to defend this guy (and her too) as they will be making LAW here.
Of course, that’s just my opinion.
re: #49 by coldwarrior
Its about Freedom!
re: #53 by jakee308
If that blogger gets successfully sued for calling an aging model old and a skank, than the panelist who went after Miss California for believing in the sanctity of marriage ought to be run through the same cabal.
re: #51 by LanceKates
this can cut both ways then…DKOS will be in heap big trouble as well.
i think that this looks worse than it is.
in the worst case scenario: avoid the lawsuit and place your blog off the web…use a dns#…many ways around the bullshit.
re: #56 by coldwarrior
DKOS is a leftist site, they are always given a pass as protected speech.
re: #47 by LanceKates
The words you’re looking for here are “enlightened self-interest” an animal trait. It’s driven by one of the basic “life force need” of “self-preservation”.
OR
Looking out for Number 1.
Don’t have anything to add to this thread. Just chiming in to say that I’ve been reading the posts and comments and want to say how more at home I feel here than I’ve felt at 1.0 in a long time. Even though I don’t comment very much (my habit at 1.0 as well), I love to read the comments.
re: #53 by jakee308
its the libel v. opinion stuff that has already been hashed out years ago…dudja ever read some of the letters to the editor in the papers in the run-up to the civil war? YIKES!
re: #57 by LanceKates
then they are ammo for the defense.
re: #55 by LanceKates
suit was dropped
re: #62 by coldwarrior
The important one was lost. A judge ruled that google had to give over the bloggers personal information.
Incrementalism.
re: #63 by LanceKates
yeah…i know, but burden of proof is a bitch. its libel v opinion which has already been argued and set in law.
re: #63 by LanceKates
That ruling will be used to silence people. Watch!
re: #49 by coldwarrior
Well, actually FannieMae and FreddieMac OPENED the door for unscrupulous (read greedy) bankers and avaricious and stupid (read greedy) buyers to make deals they had no business making. Add to that the number of border-line deals where the buyer was in it only to re-do the house just enough to re-sell at a large profit. (derived mostly not from the re-do but the market bubble expanding). This led to banks holding too many instruments backed by risky mortgages.
When the price of energy skyrocketed, many of the lower end buyers could no longer make the exorbitant payments on the property and they began to abandon or go bankrupt. As the foreclosures increased the property prices fell which exposed more and more deals that had shaky buyers which caused the banks to attempt to sell off the bad loans which depressed the prices even more. Just about the definition of a vicious cycle (and we’re not talking about your mom’s period here). Once the spiral began, it was almost foreordained to continue. Mainly because their was an underlying fact of markets; they will EVENTUALLY level out.
Unless artificial factors (the government) are introduced, home prices have about another 5% or so to drop yet (in some areas that weren’t as affected by all this, the economies are not as depressed and the prices haven’t fallen as much as they weren’t so unrealistic in the first place). Then the price of a house will be more realistic (closer to the actual value) and based on facts. Whether the banks will be able to find any buyers at the more restrictive (and sane) rates is the question.
but then, that’s just my opinion.
re: #66 by jakee308
i’m with ya;
have an MS, econ university of pittsburgh.
we still have to get through the credit (card) failures, commercial real estate bubble, and the ARMs that are coming due. we aint done yet.
lost decade, just like japan in the 90’s
and thats just my opinion as well!
re: #67 by coldwarrior
I have no degrees. No Certifications.
I just read the Constitution and see a government that won’t live by it.
re: #68 by LanceKates
That’s because WE THE PEOPLE haven’t MADE them abide by the LAW. Too many folks decide who to vote for by “what’ve they done for me/us/my town/my state/my party/my neighbors in terms of money or contracts or projects.
Instead of looking out for the country as a whole, we’ve been concerned with “our piece of the pie”. Exactly the type of thinking those a$$clowns in congress want you to do.
It’s the only explanation why some people keep voting in the same idiots that are a threat to the Republic year in and year out.
I KNOW YOU’VE VOTED FOR A FEW YOURSELF. I KNOW THAT I HAVE. WE’RE ALL TO BLAME. WE HAVE THE GOVERNMENT WE’VE ASKED FOR AND DESERVE.
Of course, that’s just my opinion.
re: #68 by LanceKates
you have true, unobstructed vision. sight unblemished by the taint of socialist professors, unimpeded by the distain of the elite…
how ’bout them words!
re: #70 by coldwarrior
Yeah, but such vision doesn’t pay nearly as much as the sheepskin does.
At my current phase of life, it just leads to depression over what I see happening to my country.
Each day I understand Solomon’s writings just a little more. There is nothing new under the sun.
re: #69 by jakee308
I’ve given up on the Republican Party until it starts to move to the right.
I’ve been looking into the Constitution Party, but I want to make sure they’re an ACTUAL conservative party and not a liberal front group devised to splinter conservatives.
re: #69 by jakee308
all politics is local…
jmo.
re: #71 by LanceKates
People are people.
The Human condition has changed little in 20,000 years.
What can be done is to strive for perfection and enlightenment but plan for stupidity and greed.
re: #71 by LanceKates
oh yeah, sheepskin means i was the first to be fired/let go/terminated. i made too much, so bye to me. i am back in school now, getting my RN
re: #74 by jakee308
time, distance, and communication have been compressed, but you are right, little has changed in the actual condition.
JMO
re: #75 by coldwarrior
golden handcuffs, they call it.
I just can’t afford to go back.
re: #77 by LanceKates
wife and i lived below our means. we have a modest house, none of our cars are from the 21st century, we vacaion at her parents house and my parents house…we are paying cash for my retraining.
always be prepared.
re: #78 by coldwarrior
Yup. I carry one credit card, no balance.
My only debt is college loans.
I’ve paid cash for everything for so long that when I tried to get a loan for 5 grand to buy a motorcycle, I was rejected. They said my credit score was fine (mid 600’s) but I have no history of having any loan except a school loan.
I’ve paid cash for every car. They’ve been crappy cars, but *I* owned them.
re: #79 by LanceKates
i have stoooooopid student loans. i still owe on my miata, but not much. my durango is an R title paid cash, my wife drives an ancient pathfinder to work…and where she parks, its too nice.
re: #80 by coldwarrior
My student loans are actually from college, just couldn’t finish.
I really don’t know that I will. There is always something else that comes up that needs the financial attention.
I’m in the wrong tax bracket, race and sexual preference to get help from the government or any social groups (notice how the groups giving grants to white males tend to be declared bigoted and racist? heh.)
So I just o what I can to get by.
re: #81 by LanceKates
re: #82 by coldwarrior
Can’t afford it.
Want is irrelevant.
re: #83 by LanceKates
i’ll believe u on this one.
i just wish it was not the case, it makes me sad when the right people cant get funding.
Your tax dollars at work…..for “0″(pronounced zero)
White House confirms it used taxpayer dollars to hire private company to distribute e-mails, including unsolicited spamming to push health plan
/it’s good to be the king………
sarc off: EFFIN’ MF’er
re: #84 by coldwarrior
I had started up again in 2008, but had to stop in march to help out some family members. My mother has been unable to work since marchish due to her hip. SHe can’t walk, can’t work, has problems sitting or standing as well.
She gets a hip replacement on tuesday (day after my birthday), and has 4 to 6 months of recovery and rehab to do.
what I was paying for college (and I have to pay out of pocket) now goes to help my folks.
re: #85 by IslandLibertarian
I heard about that this morning. The administration’s defense is that republicans have used them too
re: #87 by LanceKates
When Democrats do it, two wrongs make a right?
re: #88 by IslandLibertarian
I didn’t say it was a GOOD defense, but Obama had to give the msm SOMETHING to go on.
re: #14 by LanceKates
And as you know, the truth will get you banned.