This is why Islam should be outlawed. It is not only Muslim immigrants that are a threat. You have American traitors that view Islam as revolutionary and join the movement. Daniel Boyd, of North Carolina, along with his sons and their Muslim immigrant friends have been arrested for plotting Jihad. Freedom of religion should not apply to Islam since it is a movement for global domination. But Americans ignorant of this will not permit it to be banned.
WASHINGTON — A father, his two sons and four other men living in North Carolina are accused of military-style training at home and plotting “violent jihad” abroad, federal authorities said
Officials said Monday the men were led by Daniel Patrick Boyd, a married 39-year-old who lived in an unassuming lakeside home in a rural area south of Raleigh, where he and his family walked their dog and operated a drywall business.
Read the rest.
Here’s the good part of this article. It will make Medaura proud.
Hysen Sherifi, 24, a native of Kosovo and a U.S. legal permanent also was charged in the case. He was the only person arrested who was not a U.S. citizen.
Yeah, those Albanian Muslims are different. Not! I challenge anyone here to explain to me why Albanian and Bosnian Muslims are different than others. Is it because they are white?
I challenge anyone here to tell me why Islam should not be banned in America. It is clearly not a religion, but an Arabic Imperialist Movement. Even Boyd, who is a White American, has embraced an Arabic name: Saifullah.
Islam is not a religion. Anyone want to debate me on that? If so, bring it on!
Update: Lance has brought up a valid point on what banning Islam could lead to. Therefore I take back my earlier statement on banning it. However I am for an Immigration Freeze on Muslims from coming here. That I will stand by.
Nope – sorry. I won’t be challenging you on that one, since I heartily agree!
Oh yeah – FIRST!!!
re: #1 by vapig
Ha ha ha ha!
ban islam and christianity and judiasm follow.
1st amendment applies or it doesn’t.
it doesn’t allow them to commit terrorism, but they can still face east and pray to a black rock if they wish.
remember that there are many who come here to escape oppression.
re: #3 by LanceKates
It is not a Religion. It is an Arabic Movement. Why must people adopt an Arabic name when they become Muslim? Ask yourself that?
I highly doubt the founding fathers imagined these Savages would come here.
OT/ A lot of people at LGF 1 seem to think that science is infallible or is the solution to every problem.
CSI Myths: The Shaky Science Behind Forensics
The article is a few pages long. Here are some excerpts:
re: #3 by LanceKates
I do see your point and you know normally I agree with you. But you have to read the history of Islam. If we keep letting them what do you think will happen when they reach 10-20% of the Population?
Its a nihilistic cult.Any group that teaches their kids the highest honor is to become a suicide murderer does not believe in the same G-d that I do.Satanic cult.
re: #3 by LanceKates
You are right and I just updated my post. Banning Islam could be dangerous. That said, there are laws that could be passed making it dificult for Islam to flourish here.
re: #4 by Rodan
it is a religion used by terrorists for political reasons…. would you have banned catholics and protestants during the warring in ireland?
freedom of religion is to protect us from government intervention in religion.
how can you use it to ban religion?
Original Post:
I’m pretty sympathetic to your views. I do not like Islam.
I don’t know if I’d go so far as to ban it in the USA, though.
Islam has a lot of trappings of what we think of as religious.
It appears that there is a religious component to Islam, since they do yak about God, they pray, attend religious services regularly, they believe in the afterlife, and so forth.
I guess I lean towards thinking it’s a little of both… it’s a political type movement, and it’s a religion, but a terribly messed up, violent religion.
I guess I’m kind of in the middle on this topic.
A lot of other people out there have the perception that Islam is in fact a religion, so in order to ban it under another context, you’d have to do a pretty big marketing job to convince and educate folks that it’s not a religion.
re: #8 by Rodan
as long as we resist government support of islam over any other religion, we’ll be ok.
when they break the law with aan honor rape or honor murder, we have to be brave enough to prosecute.
re: #9 by LanceKates
I updated my post saying I agree with you. However I still don’t feel it is a religion. It is an Arabic movement.
re: #11 by LanceKates
I agree there are laws and other means to prevent it from trying to dominate.
Rodan,
I disagree. Islam is a religion. However they do not worship the Eternal. More likely they are worshiping one of the fallen angels if not their leader himself. They want to rule the world, because as Paul says in 2 Corinthians 4:4, Satan is the god of this world. Which really means he attempts to controls it at the social and political level. Another description of Lucifer is the father of lies, whose agenda in his rebellion, is to steal, kill and destroy. That fairly summarizes Islam.
OT:
Sorry,this tickled my funny bone and lord knows we need a laugh here. Old reliable Bubba, still good for an occasional giggle.
http://www.weaselzippers.net/blog/2009/07/how-does-bill-clinton-fuels-up-for-his-speech-at-obesity-conference-by-eating-a-double-burger-onion-.html
re: #13 by Rodan
One thing that gives me the shivers, is how it has a goal of taking over the earth, with all its atrocities intact, same goal, generation after generation, for hundreds & hundreds of years………puts in my mind a picture of crawling over mounds and growing mounds of their own people’s bodies, on and on…..
That is one thing I learned, those two years that I belonged to lgf: the unending push, push, push of Islamism, with those who are said to be the “peaceable” ones not lifting a cry or a finger to stop, or to change any of it….
And that continual pushing has made great, grave inroads, even in this country, even since 9/11…..
Rodan
Furthermore, that is why Islam appears as an Imperialistic and fascist movement. It fits right in with the agenda of the fallen ones. To rule over humanity and destroy the souls of men in spite of the Eternal One.
re: #16 by Ma Sands
Yeah before 9/11 Islam could be mocked and treated like another religion. After 9/11 Muslism became a special class of citizens who were protected. They have defacto control over this nation.
It’s not just muslim immigrants, the converts are a problem too:
Long Island’s Terrorist Traitor
Excerpt:
Hello Attaboid?
(as a point of reference: From the “I can call Beck & Rush a racist, but Beck cannot call anyone a racist” thread.)
re: #4 by Rodan
Thomas Jefferson did, since he had to deal with them. He also came to the conclusion that islam could never be compatible with democracy since it was also a totalitarian political system.
So ban islam!
O/T, but the House will adjourn by Friday without voting on a health care bill, according to planning memo obtained by POLITICO.
The Zero™ must be pissed. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
re: #21 by vapig
Thomas Jefferson is un-American!
(btw: as we all know, I am very against “banning Islam”)
re: #20 by WrathofG-d
Oh man, you can’t do that to us! What’d he say to get hit? “Charles might be wrong on something”?
re: #24 by m
It was deleted by the time I saw it, but there didn’t seem to be too much discussion about it either.
re: #23 by WrathofG-d
I agree. Americans need to be educated about Islam and what it really is and that will take care of the problem. Banning a religion is not the way to go, since it will initiate the banning of other religions Exposing and revealing what they intend to do to America will do the trick.
re: #26 by song_and_dance_man
How do you educate without being attacked by the ACLU, CAIR, and the American academic community?
Soon you’ll be in violation of “hate crime” legislation and labeled a “hate group”.
It is a difficult road.
re: #26 by song_and_dance_man
Any issue dealing with ‘radical’ Islam can be resolved by the laws that are already on the books. (anti-violence, treason, hate crimes, conspiracy, etc.)
The problem isn’t that the means don’t exist, the problem is that the will doesn’t exist.
Thus, even if you “banned Islam” (a horrible, and disgusting idea which on its face is wrong, but would also lead to despicable things) the same people who aren’t enforcing the laws already in place would simply ignore the Islam ban as well.
Education and enforcement of the laws already on the books is the way to go.
re: #28 by WrathofG-d
Sorry – I disagree. It will be a hate-crime since any discussion is an insult to islam – they’ve already said so.
They need to be driven out – forceibly! That goes for the fake Nation of Islam, as well!
Why the hell NOT ban Islam? Nazism was a defacto religion and that got banned.
And Nazism has a lot LESS blood on its hands than Islam.
It’s about damn time every one of those bloodsucking vampires was tossed right the hell out of this country. As for American converts to Islam, waterboard them until they cry uncle.
re: #27 by Bumr50
Grassroots politicking.
After giving it more thought, it would be aladam near impossible to eradicate the worship of Allah here in America since we have a charter that allows for the free exercise of religion.
However, as Rodan has expressed, it is a political movement as well. If the argument could be framed around the fact this religion is also a traitorous doctrine that advances for the destruction of our representative republic, it could be abolished within that construct.
And I agree, it is a difficult road.
re: #28 by WrathofG-d
My #31 comment agrees with you.
re: #31 by song_and_dance_man
Hmmm…..sounds mightily like what the President of our country has been about….
re: #33 by Ma Sands
Hi Ma.
Yup. He is just as bad with his own version of taqiya.
re: #30 by savage
Let’s start with the asswipes who organized Arab Fest 2009 in Dearborn.
re: #35 by Foghorn Leghorn
And “security”.
re: #30 by savage
Yeah and in the water put an electric cord!!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL!
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I’m for amending the Constitution to ban Islam forever. And with about 298 million seconds the motion will carry.
@Savage
I could not abide expelling all the Muslims if we didn’t also deport all those Neo-Feudalist Democrats.
re: #39 by hoodaticus
The Dems who are traitors can live in Florence CO.
For many, many years.
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