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We're not easily offended and don't want people to think they have to walk on eggshells around here (like at another place that shall remain nameless) but of course, there is a limit to everything.
Play nice!
I don’t think Americans understand the concept of liberty anymore.
Housing complex owners vote to ban smoking within private homes
re: #1 by WrathofG-d
If they do understand, most are too lazy to fulfill the responsibilities required to experience that particular concept.
Obama’s War
India Just Says “No” To Obama on Carbon
Whoopi Goldberg Questions Truth of Moon Landing
Homosexuals Hold “Kiss In Protest” At Mormon Church in Salt Lake City.
And for something completely different. The definition of Mutiny.
http://www.norwichbulletin.com/entertainment/x631635144/Gordon-Waller-of-60s-pop-duo-Peter-and-Gordon-dies-at-64
60’s singer Gordon Waller of Peter and Gordon fame, passed away today in a Connecticut hospital.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9iatTNjpDBY&feature=PlayList&p=06C0D09561542DD1&index=12
For all the cries of racism that we hear in today’s MSM, I think that it’s probably the case here.
I could be way off base, but I’d be willing to bet that there are a lot of older democrats that couldn’t stomach voting for either a Republican or a black man.
re: #4 by smokefire
Those youths are gettin’ down!
Great track.
Mahmood Abbas/Abu Mazen speaks candidly to an Egyptian daily (in Arabic of course) regarding what Olmert offered, and the PLO’s true intentions.
re: #6 by Bumr50
Sad story though. He [Waller] had been in an car accident several weeks ago and had been charged with DUI. I had not known he was even in the area, until that story, now this. Sad very sad.
Uh-oh, will this make Charles Johnson lose sleep at night?
Barnes & Noble Makes a Big Splash Into E-books
Or maybe Amazon.com would not have a problem with him pimping for B&N in addition to pimping the Kindle?
BTW, I am scared to go back to that Walter Cronkite thread from the other day, so if anyone left me any responses there, I haven’t had the guts to go look.
There was some serious flaming going on there. I took a minority position in that thread, so I probably got whacked around for it.
re: #3 by WrathofG-d
Whoopi Goldberg is such a tool sometimes. This one’s for Whoopi:
Video: Whitey on the moon
A rat done bit my sister Nell.
(with Whitey on the moon)
Her face and arms began to swell.
(and Whitey’s on the moon)
I can’t pay no doctor bill.
(but Whitey’s on the moon)
Ten years from now I’ll be payin’ still.
(while Whitey’s on the moon)
The man jus’ upped my rent las’ night.
(’cause Whitey’s on the moon)
No hot water, no toilets, no lights.
(but Whitey’s on the moon)
I wonder why he’s uppi’ me?
(’cause Whitey’s on the moon?)
I wuz already payin’ ‘im fifty a week.
(with Whitey on the moon)
Taxes takin’ my whole damn check,
Junkies makin’ me a nervous wreck,
The price of food is goin’ up,
An’ as if all that shit wuzn’t enough:
A rat done bit my sister Nell.
(with Whitey on the moon)
Her face an’ arm began to swell.
(but Whitey’s on the moon)
Was all that money I made las’ year
(for Whitey on the moon?)
How come there ain’t no money here?
(Hmm! Whitey’s on the moon)
Y’know I jus’ ’bout had my fill
(of Whitey on the moon)
I think I’ll sen’ these doctor bills,
Airmail special
(to Whitey on the moon)
Of course, according to this anti-space exploration article:
On the other hand, this article sates that,
The spending for our possible return to the moon is only a fraction of what is spent on government entitlements. I can’t find the reference now but I remember reading that the total cost of the Apollo program was about $135 billion in 2005 dollars. So, if I have my figures correct, the cost of the entire Apollo program was less than one-half what we spend every year on entitlements.
According to this article, adjusting for inflation, we can go back to the moon for half the cost of the original Apollo missions. We have better and cheaper technology now.
Even with trillions of taxpayer dollars spent on LBJ’s “Great Society,” many times more than what was spent on the space program, the situation hasan’t changed a bit for “Whitey On The Moon.” At least we have a bag of rocks to show for our effort going to the moon.
Indonesian cannibal seeks forgiveness
Case in point.
re: #12 by CloudyDay
Answer: Sex sells.
My senator.
Bleccch!
http://thehill.com/leading-the-news/after-bashing-k-street-dodd-mingles-with-lobbyists-2009-07-19.html
re: #9 by CloudyDay
Thanks for reminding me:
In the future, please don’t presume to judge me on whether my actions are Christian or not. You’re not entitled to and I’ll be judged properly by the ONE who is in due time.
Also, saying to someone “BITE ME” is un-christian?
What biblical passage do you base that on? That debating ploy, which you used, is one usually employed by atheists and liberals (but I repeat myself) and as a result doesn’t carry much weight with me. Not only that but nowhere did I set myself up as a paragon of Christian faith.
I think your willingness to judge my comments and by inference claim that somehow I am required to adhere to YOUR standard of conduct for Christians is un-christian behavior. So there.
In other words, don’t attempt to use religion on me as an argument about something I’ve said unless I was commenting on religion.
re: #12 by CloudyDay
Dumbledor is gay.
C.J. is defending Amazon with claims that because the books sold by Amazon didn’t have the proper copyright permissions that that allows Amazon to remove those books from your ability to access them. So what’s the complaint, you got your money back didn’t you.
What this event shows, which I didn’t know, is that you don’t actually TAKE POSSESSION of the kindle books you buy. I guess they remain on Amazon’s servers, you just purchase the right to access them. So in that case, they do have the right to do this sort of thing but it still smells to me.
If I’m wrong in how that whole Kindle thing works, a la the Kindle goes online to access the book, let me know.
re: #14 by vagabond trader
I’ve got Specter. You’re not alone in your agony.
re: #11 by CloudyDay
At least hes honest. Our gubbermint is devouring its citizens alive and calling it empathy.
re: #17 by jakee308
But how do the loozards feel about Bobby Kindle. That is what I want to know.
/
re: #18 by Bumr50
My condolences. Our other critter is Lieberman,also vomit inducing.
re: #16 by WrathofG-d
Which put me off the whole series as I believe it’s a contrivance by Rowling to sell more of her mind-sludge.
Ever notice in book stores these days that new hard Sci-Fi has less and less titles and fantasy and fairy tales are taking more and more shelf space. Plus, the writers of this kind of bs are mostly women or men attempting to write like women.
re: #21 by vagabond trader
I used to live in ct and am now in pa. I recommend that we trade. I’ll take joe over chris(I didn’t know I got a special deal)Dodd any day.
You have to laugh at this guy; Spectre (spelled that way on purpose) turned off his cloaking device and now finds that the Dems don’t like him either!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. what a tool! what a maroon! He makes Wile E. coyote look like a brain surgeon. Bet he wishes he could go sit at the adult’s table again but even he’s smart enough to realize he can’t turn his coat again so soon.
re: #22 by jakee308
Dumbledor can be gay. It doesn’t bother me much. I am still quite the fan of the Harry Potter series. As well, I’ve never actually been too much a fan of Sci-fi so I don’t feel robbed or cheated or whatever.
As long as Harry & Ron don’t start slipping away during “dark arts” class for some heavy top/bottom action in the bathroom with the entrance to the chamber of secrets while moaning Myrtle watches, and Colin Creevey takes pictures, I don’t care what their made up sexual orientation is.
re: #22 by jakee308
I turn to Terry Pratchett for my fantasy fix, although he could be stocked in other sections IMO.
re: #23 by jakee308
No thanks on the trade, but you can have Joe. He’s a complete phony with his global warming hysteria and obeisance to The Obama right after the election.
re: #23 by jakee308
Definite trade Casey for Joe. At least I could plead my case.
re: #15 by jakee308
You’re a very hostile, angry person – that in itself is in violation of the Scriptures (Ephesians 4:32; Ephesians 4:15: “Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice.”).
The Bible says (Galatians 5:22) the fruit of the Holy Spirit is peace, joy, and love, but you do not usually demonstrate these traits, so I take it you don’t have the Holy Spirit (which means you are not saved, you never repented of your sins and placed trusting faith in Jesus as your Lord and Savior).
In Matthew Chapter 7, Jesus said, when trying to determine who is a true believer and who is not,
You said,
You’re serious? If you were familiar with the Bible’s contents, you wouldn’t have to ask.
I think the Bible is very clear that being rude to people and engaging in name-calling is not the example Christ set for us.
Remember… turn the other cheek, speak the truth in love (not in rudeness) (Eph. 4.15), do not be angry.
You really come across as a troll to me, so I seriously doubt you are a Christian.
You said,
What a strange comment coming from someone claiming to be a believer.
It’s not “my” standard – it’s God’s standard, as I am drawing my comments from what God says in the Bible.
If someone claims to be a Christian, I am called to judge their behavior – the Bible instructs me to do so (e.g., 1 Corinthians 5:11, Galatians 6:1, Matthew 18:15).
If that person’s behavior does not line up with what is in the Bible, I will call them out on it.
I certainly don’t want any Non-Christians reading your posts thinking that you are depicting true Christianity, or that it is acceptable “Christian” behavior to be rude to people and to tell them to “bite me.”
Eph. 5:4:
You said,
Sorry, but you are incorrect. In some contexts, Christians are told to judge other Christians (see for example Galatians 6:1, Matthew 18:15-17, 1 Corinthians 5:11, etc).
You said,
If you claim to be a Christian, you are called by the Lord to act like one (e.g., Luke 6:46).
What if the “Nirf Certifikate” Really Were An Issue? Citizens @ Congressman’s Town Hall Want To Know.
re: #28 by CloudyDay
There you go again; passing judgment on me. You cannot ascribe to me your interpretation of my mood or demeanor by what I’ve said. You also are way over the top (the length of your post is indicative) in your responses in general.
Once again. I’ll spell it out for you.
I NEVER MADE THE CLAIM TO BE A PARAGON OF CHRISTIAN FAITH.
You’re being hysterical AND presumptious.
I’ll abide by Christ’s words in re. My Christianity
OH yeah, I forgot; BITE ME!
re: #30 by jakee308
You have misused the “judge not” passage – as I already pointed out (with citations from the Bible in my last post), Christians are told to judge the actions/ words/ behaviors of other people who call themselves Christian.
And, as I pointed out above, Jesus said if you follow Him, that means you are to obey Him (Luke 6:46).
You are also still displaying an angry, unloving spirit in your exchange with me, when the Bible says you are to be loving, gentle, and kind, even when disagreeing with someone.
You said,
Much of my post was providing you with the Bible quotes you asked for (you wanted to know what passages of the Bible support my points, and I provided them to you).
I also pasted in your comments so you would understand what it was I was addressing. That also made the post longer.
1 Corinthians 5:11, 12
But now I am writing you that you must not associate with anyone who calls himself a brother but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or a slanderer, a drunkard or a swindler. With such a man do not even eat.
What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?
(Sura 9.29)
(Sura 9.30)
(Sura 9.123)
I particularly like the phrase; “violation of the scriptures”
Another is “I think the Bible is very clear that being rude to people and engaging in name-calling is not the example Christ set for us.” In answer to my request for the biblical passage concerning my comment about “bite me” to those who were upset with the anger towards Cronkite.
Yeah, you really answered that.
“What a strange comment coming from someone claiming to be a believer”
Once again, quote where I claimed to be a believer.
YOU are the one who’s acting like a troll. Instead of arguing the merits of the question under discussion all we hear are judgments and flat statements about me and what I am or am not.
Ad hominem attacks are the true indicator of a liberal and in this case it shows that you’re a liberal troll. All set with your biblical quotations and arguments. Making demands that I abide by your claims of interpretive authority over the definition of Christian. Next you’re be damning me to hell.
And BTW, how about YOU abide by some of those biblical passages and chill the F**k out!? Hmmm?
re: #29 by WrathofG-d
Whatever the troof is, I believe that Hussein is being evasive in order to make anyone who questions his status appear as slightly mad.He is the type who loves to agitate,sit back and watch, then bs his way out of any involvement. Very familiar with this unpleasant personality type and it is apparent in many of his actions.
re: #34 by jakee308
re: #32 by CloudyDay
re: #34 by jakee308
I think you claimed in earlier posts to be a Christian.
Are you now claiming that you are NOT a Christian?
Based upon your remarks and attitude, you do not act like how the Bible says a Christian is to conduct himself.
And why would a self-professing Christian such as yourself be irrate and act annoyed over another Christian quoting Scripture (and you’re the one who asked me to provide my Biblical support).
I did provide you with those Scriptures; here’s one of them again:
Ephesians 4:31
Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, brawling and slander, along with every form of malice.
I have not engaged in ad hominem, I have only shown that your behavior is not condoned by the Bible. You, however, have engaged in ad hominem when you told me to “Bite me.”
You said,
“chill the F**k out!? Hmmm?”
The Bible also tells Christians not to use vulgar language, as you did there (see Ephesians 5:4).
re: #36 by WrathofG-d
re: #32 by CloudyDay
Please take your quote to heart an don’t associate with me. (didn’t you just make the indirect claim that I am all or some of the above?)
When did I attack you personally? I attacked your presumption of authority as to (a personal attack again) my emotional demeanor when I wrote what I wrote. You seem to be the troll as you have consistently attacked me personally, ascribed to me things I didn’t say, claim you are entitled to do all of that by the authority of the Bible and G-d and in general overreacted in a very un-christian manner. (which I don’t believe you really are, Christian I mean.) you just sound like a mean-spirited, opinionated, prissy, pompous, arrogant, spiteful, judgmental, over-bearing, self-righteous and self-important fool.
Oh, and again::: BITE ME!
re: #39 by jakee308
How about if no one bites anyone? I believe cannibalism to be illegal in most countries.
Oh and telling someone to BITE ME is not ad hominem.
Since you’ve got all those biblical quotes at hand, I’m sure you’ve got a dictionary or you can google it.
This is boring. Anymore? want to start telling anyone else how to behave? Oh it’s just me? Hmmm? you seem a little obsessive (that’s a serious sign of sexual frustration you know) maybe secretly you admire my willingness to say what I feel since it’s obvious that you’re an anal compulsive bed wetter.
There that’s an ad hominem attack. See?
Oh and btw:::: BITE ME.
re: #40 by WrathofG-d
Not even a nibble!
re: #42 by Escovado
I’m not about to tell anyone what they can and can’t do with their husband or wife…..
re: #40 by WrathofG-d
Hah, you made me laugh.
Of course it’s just a figure of speech and it would be another issue if done in person. Even so as a pejorative it falls way beneath damning someone to hell and perdition (as I believe has been hinted at here lately) and unless the individual named was totally innocent of any and all choleric behavior is an appropriate response when one realizes that the individual in question will never cede any points made. (troll behavior) and will keep responding with pointed fingers and false claims of statements and claims supposedly made and with refutations and certificates of authority from none other than Jesus and Saint Paul.
Posts #39, 40, 44. That is definitely trolling, and uncalled for.
Wrath, I am about to e-mail you using this blog’s e-mail address. Please check that e-mail account.
re: #37 by CloudyDay
Much of what you claim I have said has been what you THINK I have said. As you can see by my other posts in response to your personal attacks and intentional misinterpretation which I point out the difference by making actual attacks on you personally.
Why Israel Closes Her Borders To Gaza.
(and why the world demands that she open them?)
Egypt Police Seize 1/2 Ton Of Explosives Near Gaza Border
re: #45 by CloudyDay
Ah, I wonder if I’m being complained about?
So is the ban stick to be pulled out on me?
IDK. Tune in tomorrow folks to find out if Cloudy Day has their way or whether free speech and facts are held in higher esteem.
re: #1 by WrathofG-d
So… let me get this straight, they banned cigareets inside on the off-chance that smoke might come through from one side of the “duplex” to the other?
What the hell kind of half-arsed building standards are these things constructed to? If anything can move from one side of the dividing wall to the other it’s not sealed. If it’s not sealed it’s a hazard for fire, noise and odours. Those houses would be so illegal in this country. I don’t generally like regulations of any sort but I’d work to meet the current building regs for insulation and air sealing even if they were just suggestions. It makes sense to create an airtight seal between attached houses as anyone who’s lived in a badly insulated apartment or flat will tell you.
If they understood the concept of a strong boundary (or border for that matter) they wouldn’t need to try and regulate the lives of people in their own homes.
More persecution of ciggie smokers, and you may be next if you buy anything online.
http://blogs.ajc.com/bob-barr-blog/2009/06/26/cigarette-smokers-beware-of-the-revenooers/
Ink Calendar
That page has several photos of the calendar in action, so you can get a better idea of what it is.
re: #48 by jakee308
Let’s try to stay away from the dramatics a bit, no?
You’re not going to be banned. I don’t roll that way.
re: #43 by WrathofG-d
lol,well alright!
re: #49 by archonix
From where I sit, I’m not sure there would be any justifiable reason to ban people from smoking in their own homes. What amazes me the most is that these people seem to have done it to themselves.
They way I see it, if the people near you smoke, suck it up, or politely ask them to stop. Making law about it is just too draconian, and anti-liberty for me.
re: #48 by jakee308
Well at least I should say that I won’t be banning you.
It is “Savage” that you have to worry about.
re: #54 by WrathofG-d
Oh I agree. I’m just trying to point out that either they paid good money for something that wouldn’t pass a basic building inspection, or they’re telling porkies to justify interfering. Either way, they’re not thinking right. Or at all.
re: #56 by archonix
I don’t know anything about the construction, and I don’t believe the article discusses it.
What I got out of that article is the mindset of the present day American.
We worry so much about what that Government is going to do to us, and what liberties the Government is going to strip away from us, but it seems that we have actually bypassed that step/worry and now have been so thoroughly indoctrinated in anti-libertyism that we would do it to ourselves.
This is echoed by most of the conversations I have with people out here. They speak in this tone, and they just understand the World from this viewpoint: the viewpoint that it is their right to conform everyones behavior to what they want. They cannot just let it be if they don’t like it. I see this all the time from friends who wish to outlaw smoking in bars, smoking on the public streets, outlaw loud music, outlaw pets in buildings, outlaw fatty foods, outlaw fast food, outlaw certain types of water, force “green” solutions on companies or people, force us to buy certain lights, etc.
It is no longer just the Government forcing us top down, but now the citizens want to do the dirty work and grant the Gov the power to do this to us, or we do it to ourselves. This is a major problem as our country has no protections in place to protect us from our fellow countrymen when they grant the Gov the authority, or do it outside the Gov.
re: #52 by WrathofG-d
It just seemed to be the next step in cloudy day’s repetoire. 1st. judgment 2nd. more judgment and false words ascribed 3rd. accusation of trolldom. Since I didn’t back off and pointed out the escalation the logical next step would be direct complaint to moderator for redress. (deserved or not)
Let me say:
I will not allow anyone to put words in my mouth and then lay claim to the authority to pass judgment on me because of those words.
I will not allow someone to use scriptural passages to attempt to authorize their mendacity. Repeated incidents will be judged as personal and intentional animus.
Obfuscation via scriptural quotes and using same for indirect insult will be judged to be troll-like behavior.
I don’t believe any of the above is condemnable by any rational individual.
shit something f’ed up with the links. I will try again
Actually, Wrath, I am reminded of certain things Mr. Jefferson recommended.
Cloudy, you have exercised such amazing restraint for so long. However, I am NOT going to fund another semester of charm school. Enough is enough.
re: #60 by sk
Which number were you replying to?
New Hampshire use to be a very conservative state but now we have the likes of http://hodes.house.gov/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carol_Shea-Porter
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Shaheen
and I don’t even want to start about the Governor
re: #62 by WrathofG-d
Sorry Wrath. #57.
re: #40 by WrathofG-d
Does biting always necessitate……chewing?
re: #47 by WrathofG-d
I swear! The US and Isreal are the only countries in the world that the world insists keep their borders open! There’s a reason for this, I’m sure!
re: #61 by sk
Speaking of banning smoking indoors, a local city to me, the city of Calabasas has banned smoking indoors and outdoors.
Smoke with the windows up, are they crazy?
I am a smoking scofflaw every time I go to Calabasas, I make sure of it.
I am such a rebel.
re: #66 by vapig
I comment on the next thread regarding the double standard for Israel. It was one of the things that most troubled me (and which stood out) regarding the 2005 Disengagement.
If you would like, I will continue this conversation there where it is more appropriate.