The Chinese unlike us in the West, know how to deal with Islamic violence. They respond with harsher violence. They know that when dealing with Muslims, if you give one inch, they will take advantage.
July 9 (Bloomberg) — Chinese military police yesterday sent reserve forces into Urumqi and cordoned off sections of the city to break up ethnic violence that forced President Hu Jintao to cut short a trip to the Group of Eight summit in Italy.
Groups of men belonging to China’s Han majority were seen assaulting minority Muslim Uighurs in the capital of western Xinjiang province in a third day of clashes. A row of police in full riot gear guarded a Uighur neighborhood. Hu returned to Beijing yesterday, Xinhua News Agency said, after two days of rioting left at least 156 people dead. The official toll makes the violence the most deadly in decades, possibly since the 1966-1976 Cultural Revolution.
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America and Europe need to learn from the Chinese on how to deal with Islam. No mercy or compromise must be shown. Although many here dislike the Chinese regime as I do, in this case I support them. Anyone who stands up to Islam I support.
Tags: China Vs. Islam, News, Politics
Hindus also know how to deal with muslims
I think we will have to see the result of these actions before we conclude that it is the best way.
The truth will be in the results.
And the Syrians knew how to deal with the Muslim Brotherhood…
re: #2 by WrathofG-d
Force is the only way to deal with people that won’t behave.
Break their backs, break their will, tear them into a million fucking bits.
re: #4 by savage
The Chinese know very well how to break backs. The Muzzies really are stepping to the wrong people. They think that because the US and the Euros kiss up to them, that the Chinese will.
This will be interesting, China vs. Islam.
re: #5 by Rodan
Indeed, fly a hijacked passenger jet into a Shanghai skyscraper and see what happens.
re: #4 by savage
This might be true, it might not. We will have to see the result of a heavier hand on the Muslim Chinese. If it works, great!
I would hardly say it is the “only way” however.
Something tells me (although I could be wrong) that there are more issues with this riot than just Muslims getting out of hand because they are Muslims. Something tells me that you are not quite an expert on the subject of Chinese Muslims and the specific issues they are facing, or causing in their region of southern (IIRC) China. But then again, neither am I and this is kind of my point.
re: #5 by Rodan
Oh, Charles won’t approve of your term Muzzie!
You bad boy, you. I bid you adieu!
/hahaha
re: #7 by WrathofG-d
Indeed.
re: #7 by WrathofG-d
The issue is in Western China called Xinjiang or East Turkestan. The fact is China ruled that region hundreds of years before the Muzzies ever appeared. China lost control of it, now they’ve got it back. There is a Muslim population there and the Chinese are putting them in their place.
If you notice, Muslims always clash with their neighbors. It’s not complicated, Islam is the problem.
Serbs vs. Muslims
Israel vs. Muslims
Russia vs. Muslims
Greeks vs. Muslims
India vs. Muslims
Ethiopia vs. Muslims
Phillipines vs. Muslims
Europeans vs. Muslims
Britain vs. Muslims
America vs. Muslims
China vs. Muslims
Thailand vs. Muslims
See a pattern?
re: #10 by Rodan
Oh I do not deny the strange pattern of their being “brake off” or “sovereignty” issues where Muslims live in Countries. It is odd that where ever there are people who want their own country to be created out of someone elses these days is it Muslims.
The thing is that we really don’t know what excuses specifically the Muslims in this instance are using. That would make for an interesting Update. Some background, some actual facts other than “those Muslims suck”.
re: #4 by savage
Couldn’t agree more. All of islam has bloody borders, and the only thing those with a totalitarian, muzzie mindset understand is getting the living shit kicked out of them. So much as smile at them and they smell blood.
I hope the Chinese crush them.
re: #11 by WrathofG-d
It’s in the article:
As always complaining about “Religious” practices. In other words the Chinese don’t let them get away with their sharia nonsense.
re: #12 by Foghorn Leghorn
Islam is an Arabic Imperialistic movement. It’s goal is to Arabize the world, I really wished more people would realize this. It’s a scam!
re: #13 by Rodan
Ah. Guess I should have read closer. Thank you! From that quote it does sound like just more of the same.
Not surprising then that Pacifica Radio (the first day of the riots) had a Uighur apologist describing all the unsubstantiated horrible mistreatment, and other just disgusting practices against the innocent Uighur people.
I’m starting to lean more towards the Rodan/Savage point on this issue. (About it being a muslim problem, not about “kill ‘em all”)
re: #15 by WrathofG-d
I am not saying the Chinese are angels, no no no.
I am saying this is just the same old tale being told.
I have to say that I’m uncomfortable with this story because I still distinguish between Muslims and Jihadists.
If the Uighurs started the violence, I would understand their being put down by the military police, but if the “majority” started the violence and the Uighurs live in peace as the minority, I think it’s brutality.
re: #17 by goddessoftheclassroom
The Uighurs started it. They began rioting and the Chinese reacted.
It’s the same story all over the world, ask yourself this:
Why is it wherever Islam borders another civilization, there are clashes?
Common Denominator
re: #17 by goddessoftheclassroom
I’m not sure what’s going on over there either. Mike C. does a lot of business over there, and he says it’s not jihad.
re: #20 by m
Its never Jihad, they all say that. I bet if the Caliphate got started, these Uighurs would all of a sudden become Muslim and proud.
I support the Tibetans aganist the Chinese, no doubt.
But if you look at a historical map, The Chinese were there 1st, the Uighurs are nomads that converted to Islam and moved into that area. They originally were from Mongolia.
The Chinese took that region back in the 17th century, lost it i n the 19th and took it back.
The Chinese have more claims than the Uighurs.
Also, I can never support Muzzies, they tried to exterminate my ancestors.
Screw them all.
Waiting on potus to chime in. Whatever his position mine will be the opposite, hasn’t failed yet.
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re: #21 by Rodan
They may all say that, but Mike C isn’t a muslim, lol.
re: #22 by vagabond trader
LOL! There ya go! That’s a system that could work!
Has anyone else noticed (besides ‘m’) that on LGF, Charles has had no threads about the turmoil in China between the Chinese and the Uighurs (Muslims)? That was something that the old LGF would have been all over.
re: #24 by m
m, its more scientific than AGW I tells ya!
re: #10 by Rodan
I got jumped on over at 1.0 for stating that:
“All muslims aren’t terrorists but all terrorists are muslims.”
Wheeehhww, the crap that came down. I don’t mean just the normal and understandable reaction to the generality of it. I mean they actually tried to point out the minuscule and localized stuff like the IRA or the Basques or the Tamils and one even used Timothy McVeigh to “prove” that all terrorists aren’t muslims.
As with all generalities, cases can be found that show they are false, AS TO BEING LITERAL. However when there are, say 60, terrorist attacks and only 1 of them is not clearly a product of Islamic terrorists, then I say that ‘ALL’ is close enough and makes the point.
Anyone want to argue that there aren’t at least a few muslim sympathizers at 1.0 these days?
re: #17 by goddessoftheclassroom
With Muslims it is always about jihad.
re: #27 by jakee308
There was a time not so long ago when saying that all terrorists are Muslims would not have been a cause for controversy there because it is manifestly true. The IRA is a Marxist group that trains with the PLO so in a sense they are enablers of the Muslims whether they realize it or not.
OH, yeah. Anyone else see that poll at 1.0 about Palin?
A majority think that Palin resigning hurt her
BUT a majority ALSO says they strongly approve of her.
WTF?
Sheesh — schizoid much?
re: #23 by m
Not saying he is at all. It is just Americans have a tendency of being naive and not seeing the big picture.
Nowhere do I say the Chinese are the good guys. It is a battle of evils.
Chinese Fascism vs Islamic Fascism.
I’ll side with the Chinese on this one.
re: #27 by jakee308
No way am I stepping up to that wager.He ran a thread a little while back that basically said it was time to get over 9/11.Enough for me.
re: #27 by jakee308
There are plenty of Muslim sympathizers there. That is why I will not post there any more. Killgore Trout and a few others (reine.de.tout for one and I think Avanti as well) posted something to the effect that “There is something beautiful about the call to prayer” a few weeks a go (on the private thread). That is when I totally swore off that blog. In the good old days at LGF we would have booed his sorry bed wetting ass off the stage for saying that shit.
re: #31 by Rodan
I’ll side with the Chinese on this one.
Me too!
re: #27 by jakee308
When people, like the folks at 1.0, go on about Timothy McVeigh or Eric Rudolph, just remind them that the exception proves the rule;
Virtually all terrorists are muslims.
re: #33 by Speranza
One or two of them were Jews.Don’t recall the nics, you know who you are! Shame shame.
re: #3 by savage
And the Syrians knew how to deal with the Muslim Brotherhood…
Yes they do. Tom Friedman once wrote an article (back when he was sane) called “Hama (not Hamas) Rules”
Hama Rules
http://www.mafhoum.com/press2/63P58.htm
Steny Hoyer amused at question about reading the bills before votes.
That about says it all about this bunch.
What they are doing is like a Flash Mob. Where everybody floods a place with so many people that security is overwhelmed and the majority of the people attending make off with looted items.
This is what they are attempting with us.
Here’s a piece about what will happen to home owners and contractors under the Cap and Trade bill if it passes.
re: #36 by vagabond trader
I just recall Killgore Trout, reine.de.tout and maybe Avanti, Sharmie or Shanghai Ed. I hope that NY Nana was not one of them. I was shocked to see that on LGF. I thought to myself “that blog has officially died for me” – and to think that we used to give Gordon who although a liberal was basically a decent guy such a hard time and at least he was pro Israel.
re: #34 by Speranza
The call to prayers sounds like the crackheads that used to mumble on the streets of NY when I grew up in the 80’s and 90’s.
re: #39 by Speranza
Better a Anti-Jihadi Liberal and than a Muzzie ass kissing Conservative.
re: #35 by BuddyG
When people, like the folks at 1.0, go on about Timothy McVeigh or Eric Rudolph, just remind them that the exception proves the rule;
Virtually all terrorists are muslims.
Yes and the fact that we can name the alleged “right wingers” (and I am not sure that McVeigh even qualifies as a right winger anyway) proves our point. We can count them on the fingers of one hand and have fingers left over. Speaking of hands – wish me luck as I will have hand surgery on Monday (I have a trigger finger on my left hand ring finger).
re: #41 by Rodan
I agree. That is why I hate Pat Buchanan and his paleocon crowd of assholes.
re: #40 by Rodan
The call to prayer (which I heard enough when I lived many years ago in New York) and when I visited Nashville regularly – chilled my blood.
re: #44 by Speranza
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OH95byyy9rI
re: #39 by Speranza
This reminds me;
Go there for an informal, ongoing vote;
Pro-Israel == Pro-Phalistinian(spit)
2 weeks ago Israel was losing but now they’re gaining ground. The comments are a hoot. (NSFW Jihad and Anti-Jihad)
No registration or info taken to vote. They allow comments and you can vote more than once. (over 1 hour between votes.)
So be like a Chicago Democrat and Vote Often
re: #44 by Speranza
The Nashville call to prayers are the Bosnian Muslims who were settled there by the State Department.
Those wonderful Bosnian Moderates, you didn’t get the memo, they are different!
/
re: #39 by Speranza
It wasn’t Nana. Being of “the persuasion” my ears picked up when I read those comments and yeah, at least one made a post along the line of “oooo, I’m so busted if certain others see this comment” or some such giggly poo.
Indeed.
re: #47 by Rodan
I lived in an apartment building many years in NYC (before I moved out 11 years ago) in which the landlord was Albanian and my friends lived in other apartments in which Albanians were the landlords and let me tell you it was a reign of terror at times.
re: #47 by Rodan
I remember it from old b/w movies about Arabia and always thought it sounded like someone just got their testicles caught in their zipper.
(I know some of you just flinched at that)
re: #48 by vagabond trader
I’m so (fill in the blank)
is one of many Valley Girl phrases I cannot stand!
re: #42 by Speranza
Sorry to hear your trigger finger doesn’t feel well.
Good luck with the surgery.
re: #51 by Speranza
Best wishes with the surgery.
re: #49 by Speranza
Albanians are cowards. That is all I will say!
re: #45 by WrathofG-d
Vomit!
re: #53 by vagabond trader
Thanks so much
re: #52 by BuddyG
trigger finger is when your finger locks and you have to at times pry it open. Pretty common from what I understand.
re: #57 by Speranza
Hmmmmmmmm, I wonder if this guy has trigger finger
re: #58 by BuddyG
Dealing with Islamists you need a quick trigger finger.
With our system for Going Home almost ready and coming up a Soma for the masses,everything is in place to re-enact Soylent Green!
re: #42 by Speranza
You are definately in my prayers and I hope all goes well! God Bless!
re: #60 by vapig
Thank you so much.
It’s hard for me to show support for the ChiComs in this, because I know they would do (and have done) the same thing if it were a peaceful protest by Christians, or the Falun Gong, or students in Tiananmen Square.
re: #63 by Morgan
I agree.
The ChiComms didn’t take this action because they are muslims, but because they dared to resist their authority.
Chuck Fina.
re: #63 by Morgan
The Chinese do not have a good track record dealing with protests. However, an argument can also be made that Muslim protests do not have a good track record of remaining peaceful.
With the available information being limited at this point I support those that were not involved and hope that some form of stability returns to the region.
re: #65 by dclarke
The ChiComs certainly proved their lousy track record twenty years ago in Beijing and in Tibet. The argument you speak of about Muslim protests is one I would agree with.
The best example of Muslim protests being far from peaceful was their reaction to the Muhammad cartoons published in Denmark. It ultimately resulted in Christians being killed by the protestors.
I expect stability will return to that part of China soon enough.
What The Riots In China Really Mean.
re: #10 by Rodan
Rodan. POTY!
Classic brilliance.