CA Dem Leader: Conservatives Are Terrorists

From the LA Times interview with California State Assembly Speaker Karen Bass.
(Via Hot Air & the LA Times)

How do you think conservative talk radio has affected the Legislature’s work?

The Republicans were essentially threatened and terrorized against voting for revenue. Now [some] are facing recalls. They operate under a terrorist threat: “You vote for revenue and your career is over.” I don’t know why we allow that kind of terrorism to exist. I guess it’s about free speech, but it’s extremely unfair.

Wow, it sure sounds like she doesn’t like my right to vote or my right to freedom of thought. I guess we should bow before our Dem masters and kiss their feet? Of course we will have to pay a kiss their feet tax. What Madam speaker ignores is us Californians are sick and tired of Dems spending our money like it grows on trees and continually raising our taxes to cover their inability to balance a simple budget. Cali is facing a $26 billion deficit with extremely high unemployment if drastic cuts are not made we will go bankrupt. Perhaps some remedial math classes are in order for our representatives?

Tom McClintock the “terrorist enabler”.

From the McClintock web site:

The Biggest Economic Mistake Since The Days Of Herbert Hoover
Rep. McClintock gave the following floor speech in opposition to the Cap and Trade legislation on June 26, 2009.

I had a strange sense of Deja Vu as I watched the self-congratulatory rhetoric on the house floor tonight, and I feel compelled to offer this warning from the Left Coast.

Three years ago, I stood on the floor of the California Senate and watched a similar celebration over a similar bill, AB 32.  And I have spend the last three years watching as that law has dangerously deepened California’s recession.  It uses a different mechanism than Cap and Trade, but the objective is the same: to force a dramatic reduction in carbon dioxide emissions.

Up until that bill took effect, California’s unemployment numbers tracked very closely with the national unemployment rate.  But then in January of 2007, California’s unemployment rate began a steady upward divergence from the national jobless figures.  Today, California’s unemployment rate is more than two points above the national rate, and at its highest point since 1941.

What is it that happened in January of 2007?  AB 32 took effect and began shutting down entire segments of California’s economy.  Let me give you one example from my district.  The City of Truckee, California was about to sign a long-term power contract to get its electricity from a new, EPA-approved coal-fired electricity plant in Utah.  AB 32 and companion legislation caused them to abandon that contract.  The replacement power they acquired literally doubled their electricity costs.

The rest…

Let the conservative jihad begin!

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  1. Speranza
    1 | June 30, 2009 10:10 am

    I thought that we were the “haters” and that the GOP needed to moderate?


  2. m
    2 | June 30, 2009 10:16 am

    Wow. These people wouldn’t recognize a real enemy if it bit them in the arse.


  3. Speranza
    3 | June 30, 2009 10:20 am

    re: #2 by m

    They will be cursing conservatives out even on the day they are sold into Islamic slavery. Their hatred is palpable.


  4. 4 | June 30, 2009 10:20 am

    Karen Bass is one of those thieves up in Sacramento who is in the middle of the budget maelstrom. Won’t do a fucking thing to solve the 24 billion dollar deficit.


  5. 5 | June 30, 2009 10:23 am

    Perhaps some remedial math classes are in order for our representatives?

    Alternatively, perhaps some math classes for the voters who have elected a Dem majority in the state legislature since 1970.

    It would appear that they are getting what they want.


  6. 6 | June 30, 2009 10:39 am

    re: #2 by m

    re: #1 by Speranza

    re: #4 by savage

    This shows you the mentality of the Progressive Totalitarian movement. They seek to silence their opponents. They are a internal Cancer.


  7. 7 | June 30, 2009 10:41 am

    Conservative talk radio shines the light of day on those cockroaches in Sacramento. It’s not wonder Karen Bass hates it!

    re: #5 by fultonchain

    Tom McClintock was the Republican candidate running for Governor during the Grey Davis recall election–until the Pete Wilson political machine rammed Schwarzeneutered down our throats.

    The sodomites in the San Francisco area and the illegal aliens in Los Angles keep filling the state legislature with left-wing wackos. Let Calfornia crash an burn and eventually my fellow Californians will figure it out…but then again…maybe not.


  8. bar
    8 | June 30, 2009 10:52 am

    It looks like Bass is a bit of a hypocrite
    From here:


    Assembly Speaker Karen Bass (D-Los Angeles) held a news conference today to announce measures that will help quicken the process to solve a looming $21 billion state budget deficit and head off a cash shortage for the state expected in July. Additionally, they announced measures to make the process more transparent than in previous years and include more legislators and public input in the process.

    So if the public input is against madam speakers tax and spend polices well that’s just “terrorism”.

    Notice the Obama buzz word “transparent”, it’s the same tactic. Say one thing while doing the opposite when nobody is looking.

    They should be called the more party, more transparency, more accountability, more taxes, more spending, more laws, more control, more government committees, more this, more that, more, more more…


  9. m
    9 | June 30, 2009 10:57 am

    re: #8 by bar

    Yeah, they’re so transparent you can see right through them. Only problem is, half the country doesn’t care to look.


  10. 10 | June 30, 2009 10:57 am

    re: #7 by Escovado

    If you listen to John and Ken on KFI, they tear Bass a new one almost every day. haha


  11. My5princesses
    11 | June 30, 2009 11:00 am

    Bar,

    Speaking of Bass, I saw a bumper sticker that said “There’s nothing like a smallmouth on a Stiff Rod”, with a picture of a smallmouth bass. Could there be hidden meaning there?


  12. song_and_dance_man
    12 | June 30, 2009 11:02 am

    One word: projection

    Good day 2.0′ers.


  13. vagabond trader
    13 | June 30, 2009 11:03 am

    The important thing is has she blamed Bushitler yet?


  14. song_and_dance_man
    14 | June 30, 2009 11:04 am

    re: #10 by savage

    I miss listening daily to John and Ken. I tried for years to get on that show but never succeeded.


  15. vagabond trader
    15 | June 30, 2009 11:06 am

    Our house rep insect had the nerve to tell a group of irate citizens that the cap and trade scam he voted yes on was already on the agenda from last administration.

    Phew,I feel soooo much better now.


  16. song_and_dance_man
    16 | June 30, 2009 11:08 am

    re: #9 by m

    Good observation. If only Americans would take a hard long look at the true nature of progressives the liberal loons would be out of power. Of course there are those who think like them so they will still have supporters, but not as many as they would from a total exposure.


  17. bar
    17 | June 30, 2009 11:10 am

    re: #11 by My5princesses

    :lol:
    I dont see any hidden meaning.


  18. 18 | June 30, 2009 11:12 am

    They operate under a terrorist threat: “You vote for revenue and your career is over.”

    I love how the Left now thinks that the regular functionings of democracy are now “terroristic.”


  19. 19 | June 30, 2009 11:12 am

    re: #2 by m

    This really isn’t new actually. I recall right after 9/11 how many of my Democrat friends acted in a manner that evidenced that they were more concerned with GWB and the Republicans than they were OBL and Al Qaeda. In their world, all problems were caused by Conservatives, and true evil didn’t exist.


  20. bar
    20 | June 30, 2009 11:14 am

    I wonder if this is what those people mean by “transparency”?

    Cap & Tax: Nobody Read It . . . Because It Doesn’t Exist


  21. 21 | June 30, 2009 11:16 am

    re: #18 by tqcincinnatus

    Like Waxman’s comment not too long ago that by voting against the Global Warming, Socialized Healthcare, and Billion Dollar Spending Bill the Republicans were Anti-American, and wanted not only America to fail, but were voting against “the World”?

    This is the Liberal mind for you. Their opinion is not simply an opinion among many, but instead The “scripture”, and thus opposing them is not simply fighting for your own beliefs but an attack on the State, and an attack against all human decency! It is their way or the highway – “traitor”.


  22. bar
    22 | June 30, 2009 11:19 am

    “You vote for revenue and your career is over.”

    “You vote for revenue a big tax increase and your career is over.”

    There I fixed it.


  23. song_and_dance_man
    23 | June 30, 2009 11:20 am

    re: #20 by bar

    You know this whole totalitarian episode may cause the bill to be discarded and rejected in the end just as CackleCare was under the Wet Willies admin.

    There is hope. I just hope the Senate comes to their senses and lawsuits are filed right quick.


  24. 24 | June 30, 2009 11:22 am

    Karen Bass

    “In the end, we as a society will be judged on how we treat our people—be they young children in the foster care system, students trying to get an education without excessive debt, or the elderly who just need a little help to stay independent in their own homes.”
    _______________________

    “State of Black California”?

    http://democrats.assembly.ca.gov/speaker/Issues_Goals/State_of_Black_CA/default.aspx
    ______________________

    “Karen Bass graduated from Hamilton High School (Los Angeles), Cal State Dominguez Hills (BA – Health Sciences) and University of Southern California School of Medicine (Physician Assistant Certificate).”
    ______________________

    Major Accomplishments

    * Karen Bass, commissioned a report to research the demographic profile of Black Californians including the basic social and economic conditions.

    She has also secured more than $2.3 million to help revitalize the historic Vision Theater in Los Angeles; and more than $600 million for Los Angeles Unified School District.

    Karen Bass built a community based social justice organization in South Los Angeles to empower residents to get involved in making a difference.


  25. 25 | June 30, 2009 11:22 am

    re: #21 by WrathofG-d

    This is the Liberal mind for you. Their opinion is not simply an opinion among many, but instead The “scripture”, and thus opposing them is not simply fighting for your own beliefs but an attack on the State, and an attack against all human decency! It is their way or the highway – “traitor”.

    Exactly. Just watch – within the next two years, the Dems are going to start shouting about “wreckers” and use it as an excuse to curtail freedoms – speech, press, assembly, etc. – if not actually rounding people up and putting them in camps. Just read Solzhenitsin’s account in Gulag Archipelago of how the Soviets used fear of “wreckers” and other “enemies of the state” to consolidate power.

    As usual, the Magnificent Idiot over at 1.0 is too busy worrying about what Honduras’ military is doing to worry about the imposition of Soviet-style Communism/Fascism in his own state.


  26. My5princesses
    26 | June 30, 2009 11:24 am

    re: #17 by bar

    There just seems to alot of things we old farts miss.

    We’re getting another thunderstorm. So much for Gorebull warming, it hasn’t hit 90 this month yet, and has rained over 20 days in the month.

    Maybe mother oith is terrorizing us


  27. bar
    27 | June 30, 2009 11:27 am

    re: #26 by My5princesses

    We gots the Gore-bal warmn’ its been a good 95+ here in the land of fruits and nuts.


  28. Da_Beerfreak
    28 | June 30, 2009 11:28 am

    OT: The Minnesota Supreme Court has ordered that Democrat Al Franken be certified as the winner of the state’s long-running Senate race.

    Another win for ACORN…


  29. bar
    29 | June 30, 2009 11:31 am

    re: #24 by WrathofG-d

    Could you imagine a report titled “State of white California”.

    I am such a racist.


  30. bar
    30 | June 30, 2009 11:34 am

    re: #23 by song_and_dance_man

    I hope something happens, the LSM is too busy worrying about some dead celebrity, then to report this type of news.


  31. 31 | June 30, 2009 11:42 am

    re: #29 by bar

    Insofar that California is becoming a predominantly Hispanic/Latin State demographically, I believe such a report would be valid, and justifiable (if a state of Black California report is).

    The major justification for minority benefits (never given to Jews for some reason) in California is the fact that a minority requires assitance against the majority.

    Now that the White male is a minority in California, will they be receiving said benefits, and assistance?


  32. My5princesses
    32 | June 30, 2009 11:44 am

    re: #27 by bar

    Heard another wonderful element to the Crap and Trade bill. All new construction throughout the Country will have to be done to CA standards, and any house sold will have to have an energy audit, and the homeowner will have to correct any “inefficiences” before selling said property.

    Dude, Solar panels and Beach houses wouldn’t be proper Feng Swei around here. I’m sure the lot size might be limited too. Next thing you know, they’ll make us sub-divide our acre and put 15 townhomes on it.

    Our course, Obama will “Let us Keep our current” Insurance plan/home/vehicle/sanitary habits. Right?


  33. vapig
    33 | June 30, 2009 11:45 am

    From Drudge: Obama giving the “Stink Eye” to those he considers his enemies. Interesting pics…


  34. vapig
    34 | June 30, 2009 11:47 am

    re: #26 by My5princesses

    Same here, buddy! Gonna be like this all week. I can’t believe it’s summer – although the Farmer’s Almanac did say summer would be cancelled this year.


  35. 35 | June 30, 2009 11:48 am

    re: #25 by tqcincinnatus

    OT:

    Although I do not know LGF personally, and can only speculate, it is my feeling the LGF is making a business decision to follow the trend in America. It is seeming to become apparent that LGF’s turn toward anti-Jihad Conservatism after 9/11 was not one of ideology but instead business. Sencing that the Country was deeply hurt, and angered by 9/11 LGF decided to use that hurt and anger to fill its ranks, and pockets. You notice that LGF was truly Anti-Obama up until Obama was elected. Thereafter, LGF must have seen the writing on the wall for his business. A majority of the Country (his primary audience) was in full support of Obama, and his policies. Thus, what benefit would it give LGF to go against the grain, and join the minority in exile? Doing so is simply bad for business. So….what is the only rational (yet cowardly) response? Join the crowd of course! LGF was Conservative after 9/11 because that is where the Country was, now that we are a Socialist United States of Obama, well…..

    (*update) What I hadn’t noticed until my banning was actually how slanted toward business LGF was, including but not limited to the numerous ads, Amazon links, hidden ads in Threads (Kindle, Amazon), etc. Now that I have been able to take a step back however, I see that it seems to be predominantly framed around business principles, and income for its employees. There is nothing wrong with this of course, but I would have expected a certain amount of honesty about it – instead of the sly “discussion” about Amazon, certain books, the Iphone, etc. Through this lens, many of LGF’s decisions make sense. (such as ensuring proper morale at LGF etc.)

    That is at least my 2c. Sorry to get anyone side tracked on such pap!


  36. vapig
    36 | June 30, 2009 11:48 am

    re: #27 by bar

    Just invite the man himself to your state. That’ll be sure to bring a summer blizzard!


  37. vapig
    37 | June 30, 2009 11:49 am

    re: #28 by Da_Beerfreak

    That is such a shame! It was such an obvious case of fraud!


  38. 38 | June 30, 2009 11:53 am

    re: #34 by vapig

    Well, if you want a taste of summer, come up to Lindsay CA. Right now its 95, gonna hit about 103 or 104.

    Yesterday it hit 108 in Bakersfield.


  39. bar
    39 | June 30, 2009 11:55 am

    re: #32 by My5princesses

    California standards are 4,500 sq foot lots with a 3,000 sq foot home and that will run you a cool $700,000 +/- so that will be nice.


  40. song_and_dance_man
    40 | June 30, 2009 11:58 am

    re: #35 by WrathofG-d

    OTx2

    I was always aware of the liberal bias of LGF. One only has to look through the archives pre-9/11 – which I did when I first got arrived there.


  41. bar
    41 | June 30, 2009 12:00 pm

    re: #38 by savage

    I lived in Bakersfield for 3 years. One summer it hit 118 and of course the tule fog is nasty stuff. I couldn’t wait to move back home.


  42. My5princesses
    42 | June 30, 2009 12:02 pm

    re: #34 by vapig

    Can’t see how my Tomatoes, peppers and Eggplant are going to do well this year. Maybe I can get Federal money for crop damage.

    Actually, this rain is saving me alot of work, I’m kinda anal when it comes to gardening, and have lots of plants.


  43. vagabond trader
    43 | June 30, 2009 12:04 pm

    Another OT, this Mark Sanford has TO GO!! Just heard him whimpering about “inappropriate” incidents with other women. Begone!!!!


  44. song_and_dance_man
    44 | June 30, 2009 12:06 pm

    re: #41 by bar

    I played in Phoenix in 77 and it hit 115. At night it never dipped below 100. Thank the maker we were only there for two days.


  45. vapig
    45 | June 30, 2009 12:06 pm

    re: #38 by savage

    Actually, I don’t enjoy the heat as I did when I was a youngin. I am loving the mild weather and I absolutely love the thunder storms. As a California native we simply did not have them and I love the wildness of them.

    To the greens – sod off. In this weather I’ve rarely had to water my plants and I have used my air conditioner even less. Just leave my doors and windows open and enjoy all the lovely fresh air!


  46. My5princesses
    46 | June 30, 2009 12:07 pm

    re: #39 by bar

    Wow, I just figured out I’m a land hog according to KKKKKalifornia standards. They’d probably make me turn my home into a community park, and I’d have to clean up all the trash and provide food, shelter and fresh veggies for everyone.

    Someone would have to take my Remington 760 away from me, I might change the season, bag limits and Game types. It might be hard donating the game to soup kitchens also.


  47. vagabond trader
    47 | June 30, 2009 12:09 pm

    re: #44 by song_and_dance_man

    Love the Southwest climate around April,90 degrees and super dry.Only place I was ever able to get a tan.


  48. vapig
    48 | June 30, 2009 12:09 pm

    re: #42 by My5princesses

    Well, all my plants seem to be thriving, except during a particularly violent thunder storm all the lemons on my lemon trees were blown off their branches.


  49. 49 | June 30, 2009 12:11 pm

    re: #48 by vapig

    It’s very green here in Lindsay right now. Smells good too


  50. 50 | June 30, 2009 12:14 pm

    re: #35 by WrathofG-d

    The Lizard King may be, in the economic sense, conservative in certain respects. But he is an ultrasecularist first and foremost.


  51. vapig
    51 | June 30, 2009 12:15 pm

    re: #49 by savage

    Green in Kalifornia???? I’m a native (Bay Area) and it always dries out and turns brown (well, tan) by June! Is Linsay in the North-North?


  52. vapig
    52 | June 30, 2009 12:16 pm

    re: #49 by savage

    Just looked more closely at your map. How in the world do you stay green down there?


  53. bar
    53 | June 30, 2009 12:17 pm

    re: #46 by My5princesses

    I should have said So Cal standards, and really to be more precise my area of Ventura county.
    Ironically it is a very conservative area, although it did pick Obama.
    I am happy to say that the Reagan library is in my area.


  54. song_and_dance_man
    54 | June 30, 2009 12:17 pm

    re: #47 by vagabond trader

    Yeah, me too. In my youth I was enamored by mountains and went on a vast amount of backpacking trips in them. And then I discovered the desert.

    I love the desert and CA has the finest that I have been to so far. Death Valley, Mojave Scenic Area, Joshua Tree, Anza Borrego, and others.

    Here in NM we get the monsoons and there is nothing better than a summer thunderstorm, and its really beautiful country in the northwest corner.


  55. m
    55 | June 30, 2009 12:20 pm

    re: #28 by Da_Beerfreak

    Gaaah!

    (hey, good to see you here!)


  56. vapig
    56 | June 30, 2009 12:21 pm

    re: #50 by George guy, Lizard-in-exile

    I disagree. He’s a progressive that was briefly disturbed by jihadis. The more time has gone by the less he fears them and is reverting to true form.

    Right now he seems to be concerned of a coup in Honduras that was actually a Constitutional remedy to an attempted coup by a would-be dictator.

    He seems to be on the same page as Obama who sees democracy in action as a threat.


  57. My5princesses
    57 | June 30, 2009 12:21 pm

    re: #48 by vapig

    Well, hopefully they were ripe enough to use. I get smacked alot by my wife when I try to pick fruit (but not all the time).

    I’m supposed to have a Softball game tonight, we’ll see if it stops in time. This game was a makeup from before.

    How’s the Mom doing?


  58. vapig
    58 | June 30, 2009 12:26 pm

    re: #57 by My5princesses

    I live in a high-rise condo. When the wind took them I never saw them again. They went sailing away somewhere!

    How’s the Mom doing?

    To what are you refering? Please refresh my memory.


  59. 59 | June 30, 2009 12:26 pm

    re: #35 by WrathofG-d

    Remember Icarus is a musician. He follows trends, and if the trend is towards the Left, he jumps on that bandwagon. What is pathetic are those people that used to “conservative” but now are “progressive”. It speaks about their lack of convictions.


  60. My5princesses
    60 | June 30, 2009 12:26 pm

    re: #58 by vapig

    Thought you were taking care of her, that’s all


  61. 61 | June 30, 2009 12:27 pm

    re: #56 by vapig

    Icarus is supporting Hugo Chavez’s ally. His colors are showing.


  62. vagabond trader
    62 | June 30, 2009 12:29 pm

    re: #54 by song_and_dance_man

    Only been to Arizona,loved it, would like to see NM and Utah.Beautiful outdoorsy lifestyle.Good ethnic food too!


  63. song_and_dance_man
    63 | June 30, 2009 12:29 pm

    re: #59 by Rodan

    The Purge is a clear indication of what his ideals are.


  64. vapig
    64 | June 30, 2009 12:31 pm

    re: #60 by My5princesses

    Oh no! My mother is living it up out on the beach in California! She’s been bumbed by the cool summer there as well. Her favorite thing is to walk out on the beach every morning and evening. Sunrise and sunset! Although in California the Sun doesn’t come up out of the water, it just sinks there in the evening!

    One thing I’ve noticed. Sunrises in the East kick (sun coming out of the water) but sunsets ROCK in the West!


  65. bar
    65 | June 30, 2009 12:33 pm

    re: #31 by WrathofG-d
    True, very true.

    Although California history is Mexican or Spanish, being that we took it as spoils of war.

    In a way we have a situation slightly similar to Israel as the mythical Palestinians and the leftist media describe it. Both are supposedly taken by an act of war, yet the world only calls on Israel to return the land. Why not also ask America to return California to Mexico and any former American Indian land to American Indians?


  66. vapig
    66 | June 30, 2009 12:34 pm

    re: #61 by Rodan

    So is Obama and that just really stinks that the president and leader of the free world supports tin-dicts!

    We can NOT wait 3 1/2 years to get this marxist bastard out of office!


  67. vapig
    67 | June 30, 2009 12:37 pm

    re: #65 by bar

    We paid them 15 million for the land. In fact, I think we even paid them twice for the land and we didn’t even have to pay them once!


  68. vagabond trader
    68 | June 30, 2009 12:38 pm

    re: #66 by vapig

    These guys he cozies up to don’t even have anything to offer America except their cheap dated Marxist drivel.Unless they have money laundering and or drug deals going on. Nothing would surprise.


  69. My5princesses
    69 | June 30, 2009 12:39 pm

    re: #64 by vapig

    Poor thing, no wonder I was worried about her. My mom and dad used to have a place on the Indian River Bay near Rehoboth Beach, DE. Man I miss that place.
    I still love the Ocean, and at least in the East you can swim in it 4 months out of the year without freezing.


  70. bar
    70 | June 30, 2009 12:40 pm

    re: #64 by vapig

    I agree.

    Sunset from California
    Sunset Maui


  71. bar
    71 | June 30, 2009 12:42 pm

    re: #67 by vapig

    I didn’t know that, damn I should read up on stuff before I act like I know what I am talking about.


  72. Speranza
    72 | June 30, 2009 12:44 pm

    James Taranto of Best of the Web had something yesterday about President Concerned

    To Whom It May Concern
    • “Obama Breaks Silence on Gaza, Voices ‘Deep Concern’ Over Civilian Deaths”–headline, Ha’aretz, Jan. 7
    • “Obama Voices Concern About Freed Guantanamo Inmates”–headline, Reuters, Feb. 2
    • “Obama Voices Concern About Pakistan”–headline, New York Times, April 30
    • “Obama Expresses Concern for Tissainayagam”–headline, TamilNet.com, May 2
    • “Obama: Long-Term Joblessness a Concern”–headline, CNN.com, May 20
    • “Obama Says North Korea Nuclear Test a ‘Grave Concern’ “–headline, Reuters, May 25
    • “Obama to ‘Voice Concerns’ in Egypt Speech”–headline, Hill, May 29
    • “Obama Concerned at Sentence of Journalists in NKorea”–headline, Agence France-Presse, June 8
    • “Obama Names Video Games as Health Concern in Speech to A.M.A.”–headline, GamePolitics.com, June 15
    • “Obama Has ‘Deep Concerns’ About Iran’s Election”–headline, Newsweek Web site, June 16
    • “Obama Concern About Oil Speculation Unchanged-W.House”–headline, Reuters, June 18
    • “Obama Expresses Deep Concern Over Honduras Coup”–headline, Deutsche Presse Agentur, June 28


  73. My5princesses
    73 | June 30, 2009 12:46 pm

    re: #53 by bar

    I live close to this place.

    http://www.maplegroveraceway.com/

    I’ll have to learn that linky thingy sometime, but us rednecks are a little slow sometimes.


  74. vapig
    74 | June 30, 2009 12:48 pm

    re: #71 by bar

    Here’s a good piece:

    The territory that we did acquire was largely unpopulated by Mexicans. Except for the California missions and a few settlements in New Mexico, such as Taos and Santa Fe, it was empty. (Like the people of the 1840s, Mexicans and Americans alike, I am, of course, ignoring the Indian population. That, I think, is best treated as a separate issue.) The total Mexican population of the Mexican Cession was about 15,000 people. Few if any decided to leave after the United States acquired the territory, which would indicate that their ties to Mexico were as weak as the Mexican hold on the land.

    So this BS from Mexico and groups like La Raza are a bunch of lies. We didn’t steal the land and no one lived on it. Well, except the Indians, but that’s another story.

    Updated: However I will grant you the situation with the hispanic outrage over the theft of a land they never occupied is indeed similar to the pali outrage over their claim to a land they never occupied is similar and an apt comparison.


  75. song_and_dance_man
    75 | June 30, 2009 12:48 pm

    re: #62 by vagabond trader

    Southeast Utah is spectacular. Been there 3 times biking.


  76. m
    76 | June 30, 2009 12:50 pm

    re: #72 by Speranza

    I have concerns too! BIG ONES! lol


  77. vagabond trader
    77 | June 30, 2009 12:52 pm

    re: #72 by Speranza

    Love it. Another word he uses repetitively is distraction.


  78. bar
    78 | June 30, 2009 12:55 pm

    re: #73 by My5princesses

    To do the link thing.
    You just highlight some text, click the link button then copy and paste that into the link box.


  79. song_and_dance_man
    79 | June 30, 2009 12:57 pm

    re: #74 by vapig

    And another thing they get wrong is a Mexican is a mix of native American and Europeans. It always irks me, because I have a Spanish surname, (spanish/jew) they want to claim me as one of their own, a Mexican. I politely inform them I was born in America, and was my father, grandfather, greatgrandfather and so on.

    Until 400 years ago a true mexican was an Indian, or rather a native north American,or whatever they called this continent before we arrived.


  80. Speranza
    80 | June 30, 2009 1:02 pm

    re: #76 by m

    Hey with a Socialist in the White House, a dragon lady at the State Department, a tax cheat at the Treasury Dept., and a clown in the Senate – what concerns can one possibly have?


  81. Speranza
    81 | June 30, 2009 1:03 pm

    re: #77 by vagabond trader

    A “distraction” to Obama is any evidence that his left wing or Islamic friends are a bunch of thuggish murderers.


  82. My5princesses
    82 | June 30, 2009 1:04 pm

    re: #78 by bar

    Whoa, even I can do that!

    I’ll have to give it a whirl the next time. Someday, I’m going to hunt elk out west, and put that big, antlered head right where it will gross the princesses out.


  83. song_and_dance_man
    83 | June 30, 2009 1:07 pm

    re: #81 by Speranza

    Gore used the word nuisance to describe terrorists. Obama uses distraction. There is a governing idea that leads progs along with their shaded ideals, but I can’t think of a good word to describe it.

    Collusion maybe?


  84. vapig
    84 | June 30, 2009 1:09 pm

    re: #79 by song_and_dance_man

    It’s also their true Indians that they are exporting here. The “white” Mexicans aren’t leaving, but they are pushing their poor peons over the border because they don’t want to be bothered with them.

    And they call us the racists!


  85. vapig
    85 | June 30, 2009 1:14 pm

    re: #81 by Speranza

    A “distraction” to Obama is any light shined on the evidence that his left wing or Islamic friends are a bunch of thuggish murderers.

    FTFY!

    In other words, just ignore that man behind the curtain!


  86. song_and_dance_man
    86 | June 30, 2009 1:20 pm

    re: #84 by vapig

    And like the Arab countries claiming a right for the Palis to regain their land and encroach upon the legally granted and chartered land of Israel, so are the movements – most notably La Raza – attempting to do the same here. They want a mythical Aztlan to be restored, akin to the other mythical state of Palestine.


  87. 87 | June 30, 2009 1:22 pm

    how DARE conservatives demand results?!

    this is the same sentiment that conservatives faced from republicans when we wouldn’t support Rudy or McCain.

    now you see the mindset that needs to be rejected? It isn’t just on the Democrat side. Liberal republicans and Republicans willing to settle expressed it too.

    Stand on principles, demand results and vote them out. each election is a worse time than the election before… do it NOW!


  88. 88 | June 30, 2009 1:24 pm

    re: #74 by vapig

    Most of those “Mexicans” in the Southwest considered themselves as a Spaniards and viewed the US as liberators.


  89. Speranza
    89 | June 30, 2009 1:25 pm

    re: #87 by LanceKates

    We would have been very lucky to have had Rudy Giuliani as president. As a former New Yorker (I left NYC in 2002) I can assure you he was a terrific mayor.


  90. 90 | June 30, 2009 1:26 pm

    re: #86 by song_and_dance_man

    La Raza are nuts, first of all Most Mexicans have Spaniard/Italian/Portuguese Blood in them. What will they do, split their bodies?
    Aztlan only existed in the area around Mexico city.


  91. 91 | June 30, 2009 1:27 pm

    re: #89 by Speranza

    He was a great Mayor, He def would of been 150% better than Obama.


  92. song_and_dance_man
    92 | June 30, 2009 1:29 pm

    re: #90 by Rodan

    You and I know that, but the entitlement reparations crowd will try to use any lie to get what they want.


  93. 93 | June 30, 2009 1:33 pm

    re: #89 by Speranza

    nope. unaacceptable. he suppports gun control and started a lawsuit against firearm mfg’s for crimes committed with their guns. He also continued the anti-gun agenda of his predecessors by not reversing their edicts against private firearm ownership and against the state’s ccw program.

    Anyone who will not allow the populace to be legally armed has no business in the oval office…. I’ll take a conservative instead.


  94. 94 | June 30, 2009 9:43 pm

    re: #89 by Speranza

    EECH! Rudi was the RINO’s RINO. He was no conservative.


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