Hugo Chavez To Castro: Obama More Socialist Than We Are
This is too funny! Hugo Chavez says Comrade Obama more Leftists than him and Castro!
Venezuela Chavez says “Comrade” Obama more left-wing
CARACAS (Reuters) – Venezuela’s President Hugo Chavez said on Tuesday that he and Cuban ally Fidel Castro risk being more conservative than U.S. President Barack Obama as Washington prepares to take control of General Motors Corp.
Chavez knows what Obama is doing. I bet he also knows the next step is Obama cracking down on the opposition like he did.
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We're not easily offended and don't want people to think they have to walk on eggshells around here (like at another place that shall remain nameless) but of course, there is a limit to everything.
Play nice!
Holy CRAP!
Alas, sides have already been chosen, and the road to serfdom has been embarked upon.
“Perhaps the fact that we have seen millions voting themselves into complete dependence on a tyrant has made our generation understand that to choose one’s government is not necessarily to secure freedom.”-F.A. Hayek
chavez and castro, conservative compared to the messiah.
We be in deep shiite now.
So we’re now Muslim and Socialist? What does that make us, like, Kazakhstan or something?
Rodan,
Someone better inform Hugo Chavez that he is a racist, and doesn’t know the first thing about Socialism. This is not socialism and if he says that it is he is fear mongering, and a right-wing extremist!
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You folks have all read what they are saying in Russia – in Pravda, right? They are saying essentially the same thing.
This is ridiculous.
Now you want to give Chavez credibility — because his talking points parrot Rush?
The Feds have not taken over GM, they have saved GM by allowing them to avail themselves of the same bankruptcy laws that thousands of other companies have used. If you want to pay pennies on the dollar for your debt, then you play by rules and court oversight of a bankrupt corporation isn’t new to Obama.
General Motors did this to themselves by failing to respond to foreign threats and placating a spoiled labor pool with more and more concessions. If these people had a clue how to manage a company they wouldn’t be bankrupt.
Would you rather see tens of thousands more unemployed? Would you rather see more abandoned factories littering out country?
re: #7 by fultonchain
If someone I don’t like says something that supports me rather than them….. it is credible.
If a ‘hostile witness’ says something positive about you, it is credible.
So, yes. Chavez calling Obama more liberal than he is is MUCH more credible than Rush or I saying it.
[...] Akhbar, Comrades! Jump to Comments Hugo Chavez has thrown in the towelie and admitted, Obama’s a Bigger Socialist than I am. Apparently, nationalizing GM put Chairman Zero out in front. Venezuela’s President Hugo [...]
Viva la revolucion!
re: #7 by fultonchain
Yes, I would give Chavez credibility on Socialism. This is something he knows about very well.
The Feds HAVE taken over GM. If you wish to pretend that this isn’t the case, well that is your business. I don’t recall the White House being the arbiter of what dealership to sell in the past, or who is the CEO however.
As to your point about GM bringing this on themselves, you are correct. It is the so-called solution that I have a problem with. GM should have gone under on their own, just like every other business that fails. The Government taking it over (through heavy handed BK or otherwise) was the wrong result, and is a Governmental take over (or socializing) of the American Auto Industry.
You ask:
Congratulations, you have now fallen for the “unwasted crisis”, and are this close to allowing yourself to be a complete State-ist! To answer your question though – YES! I do not believe that ANY company is “too big to fail”. This farce is nothing more than a plan to create need, so people will hand over their liberty. Especially when it is the Government that decides what corporation or industry is “too big to fail”.
I suggest you read up on the founding of this Country and the Constitution. (it would help with this issue, and the one about the 2nd Amendment below)
When I first saw this this morning, I thought it had to be a joke.
Sadly, it’s not.
What have we done? How did the people of this once-great country elect a lying, socialistic empty suit?
I blame the government schools.
re: #5 by WrathofG-d
Ha ha ha ha ha!
re: #7 by fultonchain
I’m not a Rush “RNC Talking Points” Limpballs fan, I am a Michael Savage fan. I can’t stand Rush. I wrote this because its true. Also isn’t Chavez an Idol to Leftists?
Every Leftist blog like think progress and Media Matters loves that man.
re: #6 by Granny
I posted that on here 2 days ago.
The government takeover of GM and the faux bankruptcy agreement dictated by Obama (that violates bankruptcy laws) will lead to the unemployment of tens of thousands. Nothing in the new arrangement rammed down GM’s throat does anything to address the root problems of the company. I predict that GM will be forced into a genuine bankruptcy in the near future.
The United States had an economic depression in 1921. The Harding administration did nothing to intervene and the economy recovered by itself within eighteen months. Like the depression of the 1930’s, the U.S. Government will make our current economic woes even worse than if it just let the free market take its lumps, reorganize and recover.
re: #13 by Rodan
Truthfully, any claims at this point that the policies of the Obama administration are not socialist in nature are either disingenuous, naive, or purposefully false.
All of the defense against these claims of socialist policies reminds me of the hollow protests by Pacifica Radio.
They are ideologues whom will spin the news, and all of their programs to paint whomever is in office as not left enough, and a threat to the true “progressive” way of life. They have to know that a “one payer system of Health” is nothing more than Socialized medicine, but they also know that if they come out and say it, it will fail. Thus, they paint it as “not left enough” so to push their audience (a group of the most ignorant, and frightening Americans I have heard) even further to the left. They call whatever the POTUS is doing (be it Clinton, Bush, or Obama) as either right-wing, racist, unjust, unequitable, or centrist so to ensure that we keep putting pressure to go further left.
Those who do not see Obama’s policies for what they are are “Pacifica Americans”. They are either purposefully fooling the citizens, or they are useful idiots.
re: #16 by WrathofG-d
The Media definitely knows what is going on. They want Socialism because they want to keep everyone else down. See Socialism is really Neo-Feudalism. You will have Elites dictating what kind of cars we drive and what food we eat. They will make it so they stay in charge and rich while the rest of us depend on them. Socialism=Feudalism.
re: #17 by Rodan
I don’t see it as much as a conspiracy from the media as much as I see them as simply naive, and imposing their vision of the future on everyone else.
From my discussion with media types, and leftists, I find them to be more slow than sinister.
They believe that we should all be driving “green” cars. So they take this as what IS instead of the truth which is this is just their opinion. They also know that those “stupid people in the fly over states” are “too dumb” to see the brilliance of their want, so they have no problem getting Government to force it on you.
It is nothing more than advocacy journalism.
What they fail to see is the big picture and how they are nothing more than useful idiots.
Heard Obama had closed door meeting with democrats to ram through national healthcare. They plan to force everyone into it by taxing employer health benefits as income.
Nevermind that people have this taken out of their salaries as a pool, he plans to tax us as though we have an additional 15-20k in income.
re: #18 by WrathofG-d
And they get memos from Homeland Security telling them to pay no attention to us. If anything, regard us with suspicion.
re: #20 by Bumr50
Ok, I’ll be the first to “go crazy”.
At what point exactly is the Declaration of Independence valid?
I heard a radio host today say that “we aren’t there yet”…..well, when will we “be there”? Is there a obvious line I should be waiting for? How will we know when it isn’t too late?
re: #18 by WrathofG-d
I don’t believe the press is naive – I believe they are arrogant. True, they don’t see their opinion of things as just that, an opinion. But they are so sure of their position they truly think people who don’t share that opinion are stupid idiots and need these policies forced on them for their own good.
re: #15 by Escovado
and, in fact, the drop in 21 was worse than the great depression.
We know, now, that the great depression was so horrible BECAUSE of government involvement
re: #18 by WrathofG-d
Maybe the average ones. But the Olbermanns and Sosros definently have a Fascitic agenda.
re: #22 by vapig
That sounds as if we agree then. I just don’t think it is conspiracy of any sort, or some large plan etc.
From personal experience I agree with what you say, and just think they are useful idiots.
Are you ready for a war?
re: #24 by Rodan
Ok you might have me there. I do believe that Soros (and those of that level) do have a plan.
I don’t think it is purposefully to be “fascism” but Socialism might seem ok to them.
What is it said?: Hell is paved with good intentions?
re: #27 by WrathofG-d
I don’t believe that those “in the know” like Soros have any good intentions. I think they are nothing but a bunch of elitist pigs that lust after power and money.
Bah! These topics are just getting all riled up. I need to get back to work!
re: #27 by WrathofG-d
I’ve been thinking about him… soros.
I don’t think he’s liberal. I think he’s a business man.
His riches came from devaluation of currency, and now he’s devaluing the dollar. These aren’t campaign co tributions, but specific investments to devalue the dollar to his profit.
re: #29 by LanceKates
Soros is a business man who employs the useful idiots on the left (and a few on the right) to his benefit.
re: #21 by WrathofG-d
I’m not sure, but in my trying to have objective discussion with those on the left has taught me one thing and that is not to expect them to fight fairly.
I’m the one who holds himself to my interpretation of ethical standards, and they exploit that very thing that I feel makes me the individualist that I am.
Do I think that everyone on the left has a willful blind spot to the obvious? No. But the ones that truly don’t understand aren’t the ones making the policy or spinning it.
Hey at least I can say I did not vote for him.
I think the Soros, AL Gore and Olbermann want a Feudal system. This is Fascitic. The line between Fascism and Socialism is very thin.
re: #32 by Speranza
Echo that.
I keep trying to explain how hard it was to vote for McCain.
re: #31 by Bumr50
Thats why I take the gloves off with the Left. When I started blogging I was civil. The Leftists were hostile arragont and name calling. I decided to be like them. I use their tactics agsinst them.
Same in real life, when I talk with Leftists they begin using phrases like thats Fascism or uncaring, well I do the same. WIth leftists and Muslims you must as ruthless as them. This is the problem with Conservatives/Libertarians, they try to fight with rules. The Left don’t and they win. You must be without mercy with them.
re: #34 by Bumr50
I voted for Bob Bar because I didn’t like McCain’s idea of giving more visas to Muslim students to study here. We have too many as is.
I think Olbermann secretly wants to be Bill Maher, he’s just not clever enough to be that big of an arrogant ideologue.
I’m not sure where this statist philosophy develops more, at home or on campus.
I know here in Pittsburgh,with most people the union is king, and must not be spoken out against no matter how unreasonable their demands.
I think organized labor is to blame for a whole lot more than even most conservative outlets bring up.
Obama is not taking over Government Motors. /
We the people now own 60% of Government Motors, does that mean I can cut the payment on my GM truck by say 60%, I mean why pay myself?
Oh you mean it doesn’t quite work that way?
Just like it didn’t work for the bondholders?
re: #38 by bar
Since you are now a owner of GM, why even pay for your truck!
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re: #10 by WrathofG-d
Thank you. If I were business-minded, all that is exactly what I would have said. Thank you for forming my thoughts into words! : )
Has this one been posted today?
Gov’t posts sensitive list of US nuclear sites
This, along with inviting Iran into our embassies just seems like this guy is begging for an attack against us.
Bumr50,
My middle Princess goes to Duquesne, infact is out there for an internship this summer. I’ve got my bearings pretty down pat when I go out there now.
GM had a 20 Billion obligation to their pension fund in 2002. OUCH.
Bar,
I’m a Ford man when it comes to trucks. My 92 F250 runs like it’s new. Seems my Phillies are kinda pounding those San Diego Compadres right now.
re: #41 by vapig
Obama think Iran is cool. Iran has replaced Cuba as the Left’s favorite nation.
re: #7 by fultonchain
Your inherent liberal anti-capitalism shines through. It’s hard for the libz to conceal their glee as another American institution bites the dust.
Over the years GM got a big push into this problem by government regulation and the UAW. The government laws force GM into dealing with the Unions on the unions’ terms. They don’t have a choice but to placate the unions. If ever GM would try to push back people like you and your liberal politicians would not permit it.
This whole Democrat putting the means of production in the hands of the Prolitariate scheme with GM is going to crash and burn, and the result is going to be worse than if they went through a standard bankruptcy/Chapter 11. Obortion’s plan essentially gives the UAW more control when what GM needed was for them to get the UAW off of their backs. GM still had huge marketshare they just can’t make any money due to compensation and pensions etc, etc.
You say GM did not have a clue. The government is less fiscally sound than GM, and the Govt. doesn’t have competition, and the GM can’t just print, tax, and borrow money ad infinitum.
Do you think obama is on his haj and will visit mecca while there?
re: #41 by vapig
Vapig, you thought this was not an accident too?
OT
Just got this from “T.I.P.” …..sounds hopeful……if anybody’d ever actually do any of the stuff…..
re: #46 by vagabond trader
No – I don’t. Having worked on gov’t ‘puter there are so many protocols you’d have to break through to print this it’s unreal.
Now taking a sensitive laptop home and it getting stolen or left? I’ll buy that. But publishing sensitive material for all to see – yeah, NO!
re: #47 by Ma Sands
Nice pipe dream and it will never happen. Why? Because countries in the EU, Russia and China have been the main players in conceeding to Iran.
We can’t go this alone and with obummer in office it will never happen.
re: #49 by vapig
Yes. My thought has been, I think many of those, both in, and for, Israel, have the same helpless feeling as many of us in this country, when considering our current leadership…..
I actually have a knot in my stomach thinking of this America hating jerk “honoring” our boys at Normandy, and the visit to Buchenwald. Oy!
re: #50 by Ma Sands
I just hope the damage can be repaired without violence. But I’m getting this sinking feeling that things are going to get really bad before people snap.
re: #51 by vagabond trader
Photo op, only. He honors only himself.
Anybody else notice this guy hasn’t been near a church since taking office, he skips the Day of Prayer yet he can recite a muslim prayer in arabic with a perfect accent?
Oh – and his grandmother is making that pilgrimage to one of those rocks – one of those cities only muslims are allowed into.
Knowing essentially what the ultimate ending is going to be like, my unhappiness is for those who do NOT know……..as for my own self though, I am quietly watching, in wonderment…..
I know that is is totally off subject but I have to ask. Was anyone else watching foxnews this morning. On Americas Newsroom they showed a video clip of Obama shaking hand in a receiving line…I suppose…anyways, there was 3 or 4 people passing in that line that refused to except Obama’s extented hand. I want that video and can not find it anywhere. I know what I saw, I even did the rew thing and watched it several time but I could not get it to record, darnit!
Can anyone help, either let me know you saw it or you know where to get it, please help.
re: #53 by vapig
He’s a demagogue. The pretense of faith, any faith, is purely for political show to this G-dless Marxist.I do believe his natural inclination is “empathy” for Islam which was his first encounter with religion.
re: #55 by CarolinaJen
I heard about it, maybe from Rush? Didn’t see it though. First thing I thought of, is this a Muslim thing with The Obama being an apostate and all.
re: #41 by vapig
Maybe he is. Imagine if he had both the domestic capitulation from the citizens because of the economic and social issues/crisis, PLUS the powers given to Government through a foreign attack.
(ie: he would be Obama + Bush right after 9/11)
Both houses of the US New Hampshire legislature have approved a bill allowing gay marriage in the state.
If, as expected, the bill is approved by the state’s governor, John Lynch, New Hampshire will become the sixth US state to permit same-sex marriage.
Massachusetts, Connecticut, Maine, Vermont and Iowa already allow it.
An earlier bill was rejected by the state’s House of Representatives after Governor Lynch added protections for religious groups.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8082250.stm
Thanks, I cant believe that NO ONE is covering this. To me, this is a story. One that needs to be seen.
re: #59 by justin case
Here in Connecticut, the economy is in shambles but gay marriage is a big priority, so glad we got that settled.
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Lord knows when it was Bush that was snubbed, it was all over the place.
wtf can you do about the way the world is going,
nothing, grab a beer, sit back and enjoy the ride of your life, we deserve every ounce of crap thats coming our way, because we did nothing,
while the left kept pushing, year after year.
they deserve all the success they have, because through sheer hard work, they have earned it.
but it wont end well, because they have been compressing a very powerful spring,
and that spring will crush them, i can see civil war coming all over the western world in the next 20 years.
i can see what will happen next.
a couple of gays will decide that they want to get married in a catholic church, the priest will refuse to marry them and there will be a court case and the liberal judge will decide they have been descriminated aginst and the church must wed them.
and that will be the end of the catholic church in america.
it will happen.
re: #63 by justin case
see the open.
Its my answer.
re: #7 by fultonchain
this was not the same bankruptcy like thousands of other companies have used. this one was prepackaged by uncle Sam in order to save the union.
bankruptcy normally does not reward the same folks that screwed things up. the same workers and most of the same management still exist, only now they have the Auto task force, the president and congress with their fingers in the mix.
the company should have been liquidated, assets sold off, etc. that’s the only way to end up with a viable enterprise on the back end. Instead of what we have now which is nothing more than a ward of the state.
wouldn’t it be wonderful if nobody had to lose their jobs because generous uncle sam could always dip into to his magical piggy bank that never runs dry, and step in when things got tough and bail us all out.
it doesn’t work. eventually when they’ve backed enough failures the well will run dry. that day is today.
re: #64 by justin case
All churches. In my view you have hit the nail on the head. This is an attack against a church that has consistantly said that homosexuality is an abomination. They will have their revenge on the church for that. Those that don’t submit to the new religion will be destroyed.
re: #7 by fultonchain
Uhm… no. Chavez still doesn’t have any credibility.
We didn’t need him to tell us O was a socialist and we didn’t decide to believe it because he said it. But it is hilarious
)
re: #6 by Granny
Yep.
American Capitalism Gone with a Whimper [according to Pravda]
re: #7 by fultonchain
The Feds have not taken over GM, they have saved GM…
What is the difference?
Wasn’t Obama demanding to have “say-so” in how much the CEOs get paid and what not? I think he was making other demands, too, like what kind of cars they could or should be manufacturing.
re: #13 by Rodan
Rush doesn’t always stick up for the GOP.
Limbaugh has been less- than- thrilled with the party’s drift to the left, that they wound up with a moderate (McCain) the last go round. He spouts off against RINOs from time to time.
I usually agree with Rush.
I don’t listen to him all the time, but every so often, I do catch his show, or I might visit his web site. That doesn’t mean that I uncritically accept everything the man says.
It always bugs me when liberals (like fulton chain) argue or assume that all conservatives either
1- get all their info from Rush
and/or
2- that we just blindly agree with every single thing he says
Not too long ago, a gal at another board I frequent also dragged up the cliche’ that all conservatives watch or listen to the FOX cable news channel all the time.
So, if folks (esp. liberals) aren’t lumping you in with the “ditto heads,” they say you’re a FOX person.
I do watch some FOX, but I also get a lot of news off the web, from various political blogs, from the headlines on Google News, etc.
You said,
I like that Rush is pretty level-headed.
I tried listening to Savage’s radio show a time or two, but could not because he tends to rant, rave, and raise his voice a lot.
I guess I prefer a calmer radio host.
You mean for once I agree with a communist?