I’ll be honest, I am way to young to have the yearning I do for “the old days” and “simpler times”. That being said, I do! Nowadays, most like to speak about the need for “progress”, changing the way things are, and forsaking the past. Although there is much improvement to go, overall they are very, very wrong! In their rush to change, they throw out what was great about life! There was no calling women “hoes”, or “b**tches”, no advocating murder, no simulated sex in clubs, and on T.V… What I wouldn’t give to go back.
Anyway, they just don’t make them like they used to.
Although I would like to share real oldies but goodies, this is a Sunday night drinking (or not) open thread.
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I have a relative who got me into this stuff. I really cherish it these days. I might juts be romanticizing it, but you can just sense a beautiful innocence about it all. I just get so much joy out of this stuff.
What created this Thread was the fact that I was here on another thread listening to this album (Glenn Miller) when someone pulled up in front of my place blaring the music of the times (some horrible rap -and I say that as someone who listens to some rap). It really dawned on me at that point. Then I went outside to see what they were up to and overheard them speaking. Let’s just say it wasn’t “let’s sit under the apple tree” or anything close to respectful. The dichotomy of then and now really slapped me in the face.
Sorry our new registration system is crap, this is bar. But as an admin I cant see thread with over 250+ comments, so I tried this and it works.
Maybe by tomorrow I will realize why this is the case?
My dad has been gone for 4 years now almost.
Boy do I miss my dad, even at my later age of 40ish.
Sorry our new registration system is crap, this is bar. But as an admin I cant see thread with over 250+ comments, so I tried this and it works.
Maybe by tomorrow I will realize why this is the case?
Same thing is happening to me, buddy. I sent Mr. Claghorn a note about it.
Ahhhh, Wrath….now you’re making ME homesick! After I posted that comment, I realized it actually is TO THE MINUTE that much time since my father’s death……he died just about one a.m. CST Christmas morning at the end of 1990……and he dearly loved the big band era, too…..and all those WWII songs…..
Hopefully I only brought up warm memories. That generation truly was a great one. Sure they were imperfect, but who isn’t? They were still measure by measure way beyond what we have devolved into now.
My white nephew calls me nig**r all the time. WTF?
I listened to gangster rap NWA style, dont you even think about stepping!
I has a Sig Sauer p226 to blast your ass with nig**r, so what you think about that shit?
Preach it bro. I wish I could start a movement where a bunch of us went out at night in black and face paint. We could take cans of Great Stuff and inject it up the mufflers of these boomer cars. Stuff hardens to a rock and they turn on the car in the morning and Kaboom! It either blows the exhaust or a head gasket. Really I am unbelievably sick of everyone putting there crap, evil, degraded NOISE, that they have the balls to call music, into my house, my car, at a restaurant, from the parking lot at work. I feel like I am in a Mad Max movie and everyone around me has become zombies, since they act like they do not hear anything.
The Great Stuff up the tailpipe? Somebody is actually doing this in New Zealand.
I must presume you are joking. Truth is, I listen to rap, (The early stuff) and hip hop (from when there was a difference). It wasn’t all that bad either. Shoot, I won’t lie, I like N.W.A. sometimes.
But none of it really touches your soul in a good way like Swing, or Big Band.
This is going to be really controversal (especially from someone who LOVES rock & roll) but maybe those “fuddy duddies” were on to something when they warned about early rock & roll.
The proof is in the results.
Now, you betta recognize b4 I bust a cap in yo sorry az, homey! CHurch!
Yes, I was able to see it. I must admit that I couldn’t read through it all but got the “gist” of it. I wouldn’t wish a negative exchange with sharmuta upon my worst enemy. If I were to come out of my shell I might expound on the many aspects of she who calls herself “Sharmuta”, a troubled soul indeed.
No need to read it all really, its all gossip in the end. But my overall point had to do with my response.
Even at my banning I wasn’t hot with rage against LGF or Charles. I didn’t like his response (ie: banning me) and i felt it highly inappropriate as I didn’t do anything wrong, but I respected the fact that in the end it really was his right to do so – although I point out that it still wasn’t right.
We are given what we can handle, and given what we can handle to see how we do. Every moment is work, and soul building. Well, that’s how I see it anyway.
Skippy, years ago, when my 7 kids were still little, we went to the State Fair one year that was magical –there was an open air stage, and a huge orchestra sitting up there, all dressed in suits & ball gowns…..and they played that piece……and they went wild at the end, and kept going and going, spontaneously getting up and dancing as they played their instruments……thanks for reminding me! : )
Here is a video done as a tribute to our fallen ones. This is Arms of an Angel by Sarah McLaughlin. Please watch the accompanying video, elegant and moving. A woman with a voice from heaven sang this in my church this morning. Arms of an Angel
Hi Ma Sands, we never had any interaction on 1.0 far as memory serves but you are correct that I feel welcome here. I have read many, many posts by you though and the fact that you welcome me here makes me feel comfortable.
Okay, fellow 2.0ers, I must give my goodbye and crash for the night.
I recall not too long ago, maybe two months, how you were pumping and pimping to get more people to visit us.
Nothing really happened. And now in just the last few weeks this blog has taken off. I was convinced that as long as we stuck to the issues of the day this blog would be noticed and said so.
To tell the truth, I became enamored to the threads that were 1.0 free and knew this was the golden ticket. And there was a clear change in that the threads began to be discussed in earnest that had nothing to do with 1.0.
If you do a search of 2.0 looking at the blogs you will find we are being picked up by many other blogs have nothing to do with any adverseness to 1.0.
WoG,
What I find about the moldy oldies is the class and style.
There is an obvious lack of those qualities in most music today.
While I am a R&R/Metal/Jazz/Classical fan, I won’t give rap a listen, at all.
I remember fondly, the innocent days.
The truth is that those who are safe well within the walls of the city, don’t see the dirt that needs to be done to keep them there!
I have the utmost respect, and gratitude for all of those who put themselves in harms way for my country, and to protect my family, and our way of life!
My family is relatively new here, and I above most else realize how good this Country has been to me and my family. Some of us have served this Nation, and they have done so with pride, and without complaint.
To me that is a great thing. If we can build on positivity, that would be my greatest joy for this blog.
Building is so much more rewarding than destroying.
re: #49 by no2liberals
Ok, now you have done it. As much as I like Swing, and Big Band, my heart is truly with the 50s. I get flack when I say this, but I find those years to be the ideal existence for America. Everyone know their role, everyone appreciated it, and all was right with the world. Poodle skirts and white T’s? Come on….
Truth is that I listen to practically everything. (everyone says this but for me it really is true). But dang, what I wouldn’t do to turn the clock back beyond the 60’s (which music I actually also love).
re: #56 by WrathofG-d
I loved the 50’s, and not just because I was little kid that found adventure and fun in the simplest activities.
It was a time of peace after a brutal world war, and our parents were looking at a peaceful future for us kids, and themselves.
My grandparents couldn’t quite understand us, but loved us dearly. My great grandfather wouldn’t have anything to do with us, we were too spoiled and care free. A lifestyle he had never known.
The American character as displayed in its warriors is one of beauty and grace. People look around for the presence of God in this earth, are they so blind they did not see it when that Marine got up and danced on the hood of that jeep as our troops went into Baghdad, just to make some sad little Iraqi kids laugh.
Did they not see it when the pictures came of tough Marines weeping as they held little kids in their arms that they rescued from Saddam’s political prison? Did they not see it when our boys suffer death and maiming when they take fire from the enemy that hides behind women and children, and our boys do not shoot back? Did they not see it when young men fell on grenades to save their friends? This from young men that have all of life ahead of them.
God damn the Left, and reporters and liberals that demean our warriors and use them as political fodder. God damn the Murthas, the Kerrys, and all the spawn of snakes that do not see the humble face of God in the tears of soldiers that witness the worst injustices on earth, who’s spirits cry for the ability to protect and deliver the innocent.
This is what God has worked in a people for thousands of years that first listened to a word given by Moses, and later through the Christian Apostles, and now it comes down to America where that light has been protected, protected by the American soldier, and now all the forces of darkness have arisen, filled with Satanic wrath to snuff out that light, here and in Israel.
But our soldiers, I believe, have only been our feeble earthly efforts to fight evil, soon, very soon the very angels of God shall take a hand, as they did in the days of the Kings of Israel, and the evil that has been tricked into revealing itself shall be destroyed.
Dude, sorry to bug you. But if you have a link handi to the story of the soilder that dead twice in one day, I would really like to add that to my Memorial Day post.
But only ifs its handi.
And Wrath was asking what clay pigeon barrel he should get for his Mossberg 500 Shotgun, you are really the one he needs to hear from.
What I like about the 50s is how it seemed to fit exactly into a larger plan. Men knew what their role was as did women (that’s right…I said it…ROLES). Men worked hard, and women did the most important job in the world – kept the home, and raised the children.
Men respected family, and sacrificed for their wives. Women above all else respected themselves.
re: #61 by Jehu
A quote from a post I made from a story by War Chick, which can be found in its entirety on a reply to bar.
This is a most glorious testament to manhood and the warrior spirit… that they bear this arduous burden with quiet dignity so those they love won’t have to. The beauty of this selfless act leaves me in awe. I have long understood the willingness to die for a friend… after all, that is the epitome of what Christ did, and for which we mortals strive. He died that we might live. But those who must live with the memories not only of dead friends but butchered enemies are the closest we, as weak, wretched beings born into this veil of tears, can ever come to knowing what Christ bore. The memories of war are the price that the good man pays; it is out of his deep love for others that he spares them this particular agony. It is perhaps summed up best this way: Upon these two laws doth every commandment hinge-that we love God, and that we love each other. There is no better example on earth of this unconditional love than the American soldier. They would die for their friends, true, but even more heart-breaking and remarkable about such men is that they also live with what they’ve had to do.
Yer killing me back. I just weep, all I see is the utter goodness of God. The one that killed me is right in the beginning, the young woman stretched out on the grave of her beloved…oohhhh. How can we have something like the Left in this country? Can they not see the depth of character, the love, the unselfish giving to something greater than ME, ME, ME. God is preparing those that He will choose to hang out with through eternity.
I want to go find Jeremiah Wright now and kick his ass, then heal him so I can kick his ass again.
re: #63 by WrathofG-d
I understand what you mean, as it was true for most, but not for me.
Both of my parents worked, as did my grandparents, but everyone understood their respective roles, and embraced them.
Many years ago, I was attending a management seminar. As an exercise, the lecturer asked everyone to write down who was the best manager they had ever known, and why. I thought for several minutes, and had to conclude it was my maternal grandmother. When asked, I explained that she ran an active farm, complete with cash crops, livestock, a large garden, and two employees(which were family to me), and a host of grandkids running around. Yet, she was able to direct everyone to what their tasks were each day, without writing anything down, and would follow up at appropriate times.
She was the true strength of the family, the generational glue, and was always a lady. She actually lived the creed “don’t say anything if you can’t say something nice,” by deed.
Hey, I’m an Admin around here… I ban myself, I instruct myself to get my own blog, and I bid myself adieu!
But seriously, yes ROLES! I really think that this is probably one of the major issues inflicting society today. Moral, and existence confusion. Women are trying to be men, and men are stuck being children. Overall, we are all selfish! Marriage has gone from a mending of two souls which compliment each other to two people who compete constantly with each other.
We need to stop thinking we are smarter than G-d, and just accept our ROLES. I have such contempt for those who have brainwashed women into thinking that there is no value, or eternal benefit to raising a home. It is the discounting of raising a home that has created the mass social problems we see today. If you don’t have a solid home, how can you have anything else? It is attempting to build a building without a proper foundation.
Raising a home is the most important job in the world. Making money is only good for this lifetime. Making a home last for eternity. It (home/child raising/family) is the true core of all existence…and for this reason G-d gave this job to women.
Women get short shrift in today’s society, and I believe that in many way that is their own doing. As I state above, they are trying to be men, instead of acknowledging and accepting their own greatness – not because they are ‘like men’ but because they are women.
Women need to embrace their feminine qualities, and cherish them; have pride in them. Seriously what is more powerful than an actually female woman?
It is such a shame the women today. They shirk their feminine role, and take on all the negative qualities of being men. So frustrating the joy they get these days rolling around in the filth that men cannot get out of.
re: #71 by Jehu
I know, I watched that video many times, but finally chose another for my post. You should see the one I chose.
The image you mentioned hit me hard, as did the little Marine saluting his fallen father.
I don’t wish to go on a rant about the left today, it is a day of unification.
Let them live the lies they have accepted as truth about this great nation, and the magnificent men and women that created it, and maintain it.
There is a reason I chose this nic, and have written about it.
Sounds a lot like my great grandma. Never learned how to read or write since back then, Italian women were told to stay at home and raise the kids. But she ruled that house with an iron fist, no backtalking to her or you would get a willow switch across the back of the legs, HARD!
Many years ago a few of my friends(husband and wives) got into this discussion, and in due time it ventured into the arena of religion and how God intended the family to be with the appropriate roles delegated to each gender.
And of course someone chimed in that Eve had blown it for women by eating of the forbidden fruit. I simply stated that Eve was deceived, but Adam knew what he was doing and so the burden was on him for his error and they both suffered for it.
The women agreed and cheered on me, while the bros looked at me as a traitor.
re: #74 by WrathofG-d
I agree that women have been led to believe things that go against their very nature.
Those that don’t get the respect they deserve for being women, do so because they have bought into the notion that there are not specific roles in society.
It is another example of the assault of cultural Marxism, in an attempt to destroy the family.
I was fortunate to have such strong women in my life, and I loved and respected them dearly.
I then treated my daughters, and now granddaughters with that same love and respect.
I have always been in awe of the power women have. That they can bestow a gift from God is astounding to me.
re: #76 by savage
My grandmother would do the same with a weeping willow switch. We really had to act “ugly” to force her into corporal punishment mode, though. It pained her to whup us.
A man’s role is to be a man. That means to please his wife, and be completely giving. Men need to be men, and stop acting like children. Its not easy, but it is necessary.
Men these days are like women. They are looking for honor, and to receive. This is not a man’s role however. A man’s role is to give. The minute is expects something in return, or asks “what am I getting” he is being like a woman – and this is wrong for him.
Men and women are meant to compliment each other. Now they just compete within the Marriage/relationship, this is horrible.
A woman is the home. She is the base. The core. Everything! Woman should be honored, and men respected.
Judaism teaches that woman are a reflection of G-d’s will. How you treat your Wife is how you treat G-d. A great relationship with G-d means a great relationship with your wife, and vice versa. Its a super deep concept, but the point is that as you do to your Wife you do to G-d – and how she treats you is how G-d thinks of you. Get right and cherish your Wife, and G-d will get right with you.
Any man that looks for honor, or such from their wife is not being a real man! They are acting like children and asking “what about me”. It is not easy (as nothing important is) but they need to suck it up!
The most degraded of societies demean their women. Is it just a coincidence that Judaism and Christianity have done more to elevate and liberate women than any human philosophy on earth?
There is a fantastic book on the role of men in marriage. It isn’t easy, but the results are truly G-dlike. As well, it is written from a Jewish viewpoint, and for Jews. The themes however are universal if you can weed through the Jewish terms.
It is called “The Garden of Peace” (actually “Gan Shalom” in Hebrew which translates to the same thing)
Reading a book a few years ago called “The Return of the Nephilim,” written by a Rabbi and a Pastor. What was illuminating is they showed how you do not understand the will of God, nor do Christians understand a great deal of the Bible until they understand the ancient Jewish rites of courtship and marriage. The books of Moses and the prophets are intertwined in their revelation about the courtship and marriage rites, of course really pointing us to our relationship with God. Indeed the way a man treats his wife is the revelation of how he treats God, and perhaps the same for the women.
Yes! It is hard to explain to someone who does not “see” and understand G-d, but when you concentrate on the “give and take” of a relationship with G-d the similarities between a relationship with G-d, and that with your wife is quite obvious actually.
An honest relationship with G-d is love, trust, acceptance, understanding, and constant work to be a better person. It is relating to something that you already are but cannot be. (if that makes sense) Same with a wife. It is love, trust, acceptance, understanding, and constant work to be a better husband.
Jewish tradition states that before the world was created, souls were split and then put upon this Earth where they search for each other. When you find your correct wife/husband, and get married you put that soul back together again. I see this as exactly the point of life/religion. You are separated from G-d and work to put yourself back together again with Him. So once again your soul can be complete.
The marriage ceremony for Jew is a process of melding the soul back together again. Thus your wife/husband truly completes you. They are two opposite, yet similar parts that have always needed each other to create a complete whole.
I like the way you do not spell out God’s name, like the scribes of old, who when they wrote God’s name they threw away the scribe and had to use a new one.
My spiritual father always told us that we must love the Jews because to “them were entrusted the Oracles of God.” He considered just that deed alone to be worthy of never ending honor.
I should mention, in case y’all missed it before, I have been happily divorced for many years.
Unfortunately, I married badly and far too young, no excuses. However, I relished the role, and thought I had a partner that shared my goals, and was capable of keeping an agreement. I was proven wrong. So after many years of taking her abuse, both emotional and physical, I sought a divorce, which made me feel like a failure. I fought for the custody of my daughters for eight years, and got them away from her for a few years, and we finally had to have a jury trial to settle the matter.
The end result was, though she tried to poison my children on me, as they became adults, they realized the truth, and now, they won’t have anything to do with her.
I nearly remarried a few times, but with my experience, and with my growing daughters and business, it just never worked out.
Shame too, as I was meant to be a husband and father. My upbringing prepared me for it.
I agree to a point.
As a boy I looked to my mother for approval and as a man I look to my wife for the same approval. And this gets back into your other argument about men being woman and woman being men today.
But if the wife does not approve and expresses nothing but her disapproval, its hard to be a real man and do what’s right. Myself, I want to run from that situation and never return.
Now that is coming from a man who has been married to the same woman for 17 years and without kids, what that means I don’t know?
re: #87 by BS Detector
Yeah, but those were the hired help.
I’m talking about my beloved Mammaw, the sweetest and kindest woman to have ever lived.
I know you were a bad kid, and I had some moments, but it hurt me to see my Mammaw so upset with me, that she would have to punish me, which hurt her more than anything.
This has been about the way I look upon this also. God contains/is the feminine and masculine. As men, or women we are incomplete. This is why homosexuality is a sin, not because of the actual sex act, IMO, it is because you violate something deeper. One thing is that in a true marriage relationship, if God is involved, you get to deep truth, and that damn well hurts, being a lying human being.
If you are not held into that relationship you will bolt and go find something you like, or rather is easy, or just is a fulfillment of your own lust.
Homosexuality is anti-spiritual, it is the defiance of a soul that will not allow itself to be touched deep in truth to mature, so they hide out in phony human-invented relationships.
Then demand everyone kiss their ass and tell them how wonderful they are…ahh, no you are still just a liar, go through what God has given you to go through.
G-ds name is Holy. To keep something holy you must separate it, keep it special, keep it Holy. I am a bit sheepish for the credit/honor however. I am exceptionally proud to be a Jew, and a keep of our job, but am just a vessel of my role. It is Judaism that should be given praise…and of course G-d!
re: #90 by no2liberals
sorry to hear bout the divorce and the not-so-nice wife. I make it a habit not to get involved with other’s personal lives though…So I will shush it now..
I too agree that homosexuality does not allow one to experience their full potential. For many of the reasons you rightly explain – that G-d created us all to complement each other, men & woman. This is something deep, and unshakable.
However, and don’t take this the wrong way, your sales pitch on this is only going to turn people off. Sin is sin. Homosexuality is just one of them. They all turn one away from a deep Truth.
For example, Jews are instructed to “keep the Shabbat, and keep it holy”. This is not something that I did as a child. This was a sin. Because of it I was separated from the deeper truth and G-d Himself. Since I began doing so, I realize this. Homosexuality is not different. It is a sinful act, but no worse than the rest. They all keep you away from G-d.
So….there is also the sin of using G-d’s name in vain. This can be interpreted as acting in a way that turns people away from G-d. Attacking gays, or presenting the deeper truth in a way that makes them hate you for it, and thus G-d for it (as you are acting in His name) probably causes as much harm if not more.
I say all of this, not to lecture, or upset you. Quite the opposite actually as I understand completely where you are coming from. It is out of a love of H’S that I am concerned. If we are to take upon ourselves the name (or lessons) of G-d, we must make sure not to use it is vain, or sully it.
n2L Ya killed me, I will just go pray for the nation before I go to bed, God help, us…heal this land, remember our slain and bless our land for the sake of those that died with the love of freedom in their hearts, a freedom they were trying to extend to others, worthy or not of that freedom.
re: #94 by WrathofG-d
It’s okay, I’ve been able to joke about for quite some time.
The main thing is I learned and grew, and have two wonderful daughters, and three beautiful grandchildren. Staying positive generally produces good outcomes.
in my professional life I am very familiar with divorce. It is unfortunately a really messed up situation. You are right though, “staying positive generally produces good outcomes”. I have learned that in the end, you are still stuck with yourself, and thus you best make sure that you are happy with who you are -let the miserable be miserable and ruin their own lives.
The interesting thing I will have to deal with is what to do once I have children. My best friend since infancy is homosexual. He is a wonderful human being, a really close friend, and well he has known me my entire life.
So what do I do when I am trying to raise my children in a religous life?
If I allow him to visit, I must tell my children that he is sinning, and explain homosexuality to them at a young age. Plus, I have to get into it with my friend about why I am not explaining to my kids that he is gay.
So either way I lose. I either get into it with the friend, or I get into it with the kids. Its a lose-lose.
Sure, I only referred to homosexuality because we were talking in context of marriage and because people are becoming militant about it now days more and more. I make no distinction about sin, including my own. All of it will kill you eventually and separate you from God for ever if not repented of.
Do you realize political correctness is only so people can cover over their sins, their modern day fig leaves so to speak. Speech codes exist so that the way is blocked to speak the truth. Thus now you cannot confront black Americans over their disgusting ghetto culture, cause that is not cool. Or you cannot tell a feminist she is simply being a bitch, not a liberated thinker…etc. Anyway now is really nighty night for me.
re: #100 by WrathofG-d
Henh.
We can talk guns later. I’ve been running on nervous energy much of the day, and finally feel like I can rest.
As difficult as the divorce was, and the resulting custody battle, the decision to get divorced was the most difficult. I’ve never been a quitter, which is usually a good thing, but has proven detrimental, in some instances.
I learned a great deal from the experience, and would like to think I was able to give wise counsel to some, based on my experience.
I’ll be around some tomorrow. I do plan to go visit the D/FW National Cemetery tomorrow afternoon.
That is a difficult situation.
But I know that God is love, true love that is.
But not a love that we humans understand, it’s a love that transcends our understanding.
He loves us even while we are yet still sinners, so maybe something like that could be possibly be explained. Now that is not to say that your children would see that sin as OK, but that they would understand the true love God has for that person.
I have to say that God’s love I can not really explain, its beyond the words I have to express it. Yet it is summed up in the old Christian saying of “love the sinner, hate the sin.” if that makes any sense?
Master of the universe, I hereby forgive anyone who angered or antagonized me or who sinned against me — whether against my body, my property, my honor or against anything of mine; whether he did so accidentally, willfully, carelessly, or purposely; whether through speech, deed, thought, or notion; whether in this transmigration or another transmigration — I forgive every one. May no man be punished because of me. May it will be Your will, HASHEM, my God and the God of my forefathers, that I may sin no more. Whatever sins I have done before You, may You blot out in Your abundant mercies, but not through suffering or bad illnesses. May the expressions of my mouth and the thoughts of my heart find favor before You, HASHEM, my Rock and my Redeemer.1
HAMAPIL
Blessed are You, HASHEM, our God, KING of the universe, who casts the bonds of sleep upon my eyes and slumber upon my eyelids. May it be Your will, HASHEM, my God and the God of my forefathers, that You lay me down to sleep in peace and rise me erect in peace. May my ideas, bad dreams, and bad notions not confound me; may my offspring be perfect before You, and may You illuminate my eyes lest I die in sleep, Who illuminates the pupil of the eye. Blessed are You, Hashem, Who illuminates the entire world with His glory.
….I’ve got a gal, gal, gal, in Kalamazoo…
re: #1 by WrathofG-d
My Daddy used to sing that song…..he’s been gone now, for 18 5/12 years…..
Articles About Evolution from American Vision Site
See especially the article at the top called “Pigs, Lemurs, & ‘Proving’ Evolution”
re: #2 by Ma Sands
I have a relative who got me into this stuff. I really cherish it these days. I might juts be romanticizing it, but you can just sense a beautiful innocence about it all. I just get so much joy out of this stuff.
What created this Thread was the fact that I was here on another thread listening to this album (Glenn Miller) when someone pulled up in front of my place blaring the music of the times (some horrible rap -and I say that as someone who listens to some rap). It really dawned on me at that point. Then I went outside to see what they were up to and overheard them speaking. Let’s just say it wasn’t “let’s sit under the apple tree” or anything close to respectful. The dichotomy of then and now really slapped me in the face.
Dang, I yearn for the good ol days….
re: #2 by Ma Sands
Sorry our new registration system is crap, this is bar. But as an admin I cant see thread with over 250+ comments, so I tried this and it works.
Maybe by tomorrow I will realize why this is the case?
My dad has been gone for 4 years now almost.
Boy do I miss my dad, even at my later age of 40ish.
Well if we are going to have some drinking we need to put some Whiskey in the Jar
I’m spamming my own sight here but I had something to add.
Back then you got “don’t sit on lovers lane with anyone but me”, “don’t hold anyone on your knee…you better be true to me”…
Now: Sleep around B****, and I’ll F*** your sister H**, then I’ll do your best friend, and kill your lil bro – N*****.
5. bar
Same thing is happening to me, buddy. I sent Mr. Claghorn a note about it.
*gulp*
Dang, I’ve been making my post-LGF foray here two or three threads downsteam and I now I find everyone hanging out here!
Here is an oldie but also a goodie.
Tell it Louis!
Ahhhh, Wrath….now you’re making ME homesick! After I posted that comment, I realized it actually is TO THE MINUTE that much time since my father’s death……he died just about one a.m. CST Christmas morning at the end of 1990……and he dearly loved the big band era, too…..and all those WWII songs…..
re: #9 by Runner
Hey, I would have responded there, but as you can see (from the other Admins above) I couldn’t.
A very sincere thank you for the exceptionally kind words there. I really appreciate it.
Where you able to see the Wrath Banned drama?
re: #11 by Ma Sands
Hopefully I only brought up warm memories. That generation truly was a great one. Sure they were imperfect, but who isn’t? They were still measure by measure way beyond what we have devolved into now.
re: #5 by BS Detector
Bar, the longing will never cease…..it will merely be a little muted with warm memories…..
gclaghorn promised, just before he signed off earlier this evening, that he’ll be fixing a bunch of bugs in the system, tomorrow….. : )
I recognize many here,
Savage, Jehu, MaSands, CloudyDay, etc.
As a new member of 2.0 I want to say how comforting is to some of the posters I’ve been reading for years at 1.0.
re: #13 by WrathofG-d
Jinx! : )
re: #7 by WrathofG-d
My white nephew calls me nig**r all the time. WTF?
I listened to gangster rap NWA style, dont you even think about stepping!
I has a Sig Sauer p226 to blast your ass with nig**r, so what you think about that shit?
re: #8 by savage
Thanks Savage, crazy comp shit.
Wrath
Preach it bro. I wish I could start a movement where a bunch of us went out at night in black and face paint. We could take cans of Great Stuff and inject it up the mufflers of these boomer cars. Stuff hardens to a rock and they turn on the car in the morning and Kaboom! It either blows the exhaust or a head gasket. Really I am unbelievably sick of everyone putting there crap, evil, degraded NOISE, that they have the balls to call music, into my house, my car, at a restaurant, from the parking lot at work. I feel like I am in a Mad Max movie and everyone around me has become zombies, since they act like they do not hear anything.
The Great Stuff up the tailpipe? Somebody is actually doing this in New Zealand.
I’m In The Mood.
re: #17 by BS Detector
I must presume you are joking. Truth is, I listen to rap, (The early stuff) and hip hop (from when there was a difference). It wasn’t all that bad either. Shoot, I won’t lie, I like N.W.A. sometimes.
But none of it really touches your soul in a good way like Swing, or Big Band.
This is going to be really controversal (especially from someone who LOVES rock & roll) but maybe those “fuddy duddies” were on to something when they warned about early rock & roll.
The proof is in the results.
Now, you betta recognize b4 I bust a cap in yo sorry az, homey! CHurch!
re: #12 by WrathofG-d
Yes, I was able to see it. I must admit that I couldn’t read through it all but got the “gist” of it. I wouldn’t wish a negative exchange with sharmuta upon my worst enemy. If I were to come out of my shell I might expound on the many aspects of she who calls herself “Sharmuta”, a troubled soul indeed.
So this is where y’all giddyupped to.
re: #18 by BS Detector
Seems to be a javascript issue and I am too damn tired to check it out for myself.
15. Runner
Just so you’ll know, my screen name at LGF 1 was not the same ones as I’ve used here (Cloudy Day and Rainy Day).
I did post at LGF 1 from time to time, but under a different name, and I’d rather not divulge what it was.
re: #15 by Runner
Good to see you here also. We are getting a good crew in here as you can see.
You know, we are all a bunch a psycho freaks and haters, according to the megaputz over at the Won
re: #22 by Runner
No need to read it all really, its all gossip in the end. But my overall point had to do with my response.
Even at my banning I wasn’t hot with rage against LGF or Charles. I didn’t like his response (ie: banning me) and i felt it highly inappropriate as I didn’t do anything wrong, but I respected the fact that in the end it really was his right to do so – although I point out that it still wasn’t right.
We are given what we can handle, and given what we can handle to see how we do. Every moment is work, and soul building. Well, that’s how I see it anyway.
re: #20 by Skippy
Skippy, years ago, when my 7 kids were still little, we went to the State Fair one year that was magical –there was an open air stage, and a huge orchestra sitting up there, all dressed in suits & ball gowns…..and they played that piece……and they went wild at the end, and kept going and going, spontaneously getting up and dancing as they played their instruments……thanks for reminding me! : )
Okay, it’s late here on the East Coast and I must get some sleep. Taking the kids to have some fun at an amusement park tomorrow.
*Feeling compelled to repeat my appreciation for this site to interact with former Lizards*
re: #29 by Runner
No need to reiterate. We are the lucky ones. Welcome!
21 wrath
Well, I guess it’s time to lay out some Chant on your ass. hahaha
BTW, Dies Irae means Day of Wrath in Latin so take that! LOL!
[I think Runner likes it here.... ]
re: #14 by Ma Sands
Ma
Your words are always so soothing.
I love it when you comment on Psaturns facebook, I look forward to that.
Here is a video done as a tribute to our fallen ones. This is Arms of an Angel by Sarah McLaughlin. Please watch the accompanying video, elegant and moving. A woman with a voice from heaven sang this in my church this morning. Arms of an Angel
re: #33 by BS Detector
Ha! Now, who’s stalking!
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re: #21 by WrathofG-d
Joke’n about which part?
re: #31 by savage
Za’am H’El!
Great little thing we got going here now eh!?
As I joked before, LGF should just send over the e-mails for all the old timers so we can just get it over with already.
re: #35 by Ma Sands
Well, I am part of the stalker blog, so it just goes without say’n.
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re: #25 by CloudyDay
Hi Cloudy,
My mistake. Perhaps I have read 2.0 enough to associate your name with someone familiar. I would attempt a guess but don’t wish to publicly “out” you.
Ah hell, what do I know? I’m just glad to be where I can make comments without a kick to the crotch.
re: #38 by BS Detector
Don’t worry my friend, you come from good stalk.
re: #37 by WrathofG-d
Oh you bet! Where else can you have duels between rap and chant? Huh?
I give us about 6 to 7 months before we pass LGF in the Alexa ratings.
re: #39 by Runner
Get off my site!
/cj
re: #41 by savage
Well allow me to be the first to go on record and state that when Mr. Johnson has no one else at his site, he can come here to comment.
Psalm 23 tribute to our fallen:
This video will kill you Tribute
re: #32 by Ma Sands
Hi Ma Sands, we never had any interaction on 1.0 far as memory serves but you are correct that I feel welcome here. I have read many, many posts by you though and the fact that you welcome me here makes me feel comfortable.
Okay, fellow 2.0ers, I must give my goodbye and crash for the night.
Ciao!
WrathofG-d
I recall not too long ago, maybe two months, how you were pumping and pimping to get more people to visit us.
Nothing really happened. And now in just the last few weeks this blog has taken off. I was convinced that as long as we stuck to the issues of the day this blog would be noticed and said so.
To tell the truth, I became enamored to the threads that were 1.0 free and knew this was the golden ticket. And there was a clear change in that the threads began to be discussed in earnest that had nothing to do with 1.0.
If you do a search of 2.0 looking at the blogs you will find we are being picked up by many other blogs have nothing to do with any adverseness to 1.0.
And to me, that is a good thing.
re: #43 by WrathofG-d
Atascadero has wifi access? Who knew? bwahaha
re: #42 by savage
Okay, I thought I was officially off to bed but you just made me crack up.
My first pseudo banning!!!!
WoG,
What I find about the moldy oldies is the class and style.
There is an obvious lack of those qualities in most music today.
While I am a R&R/Metal/Jazz/Classical fan, I won’t give rap a listen, at all.
I remember fondly, the innocent days.
re: #44 by Jehu
The truth is that those who are safe well within the walls of the city, don’t see the dirt that needs to be done to keep them there!
I have the utmost respect, and gratitude for all of those who put themselves in harms way for my country, and to protect my family, and our way of life!
My family is relatively new here, and I above most else realize how good this Country has been to me and my family. Some of us have served this Nation, and they have done so with pride, and without complaint.
G-d Bless America!
re: #44 by Jehu
Man, that’s a brutal vid. Thanks for sharing that.
It’s going up in a thread in a few minutes, damn straight.
re: #48 by Runner
Not a problem…
re: #41 by savage
Just so you know, which I am sure you do.
LGF 1.0 gets 50,000 pages views per day.
LGF 2.0 gets maybe 1,200 on a good day.
But I hope you are right, except I don’t look forward to reading threads with 1,000 + comments.
re: #48 by Runner Methinks ye be hooked by 2.0
re: #34 by Jehu
Here’s one for you. I nearly put it in my Memorial Day post.
re: #46 by song_and_dance_man
To me that is a great thing. If we can build on positivity, that would be my greatest joy for this blog.
Building is so much more rewarding than destroying.
re: #49 by no2liberals
Ok, now you have done it. As much as I like Swing, and Big Band, my heart is truly with the 50s. I get flack when I say this, but I find those years to be the ideal existence for America. Everyone know their role, everyone appreciated it, and all was right with the world. Poodle skirts and white T’s? Come on….
Truth is that I listen to practically everything. (everyone says this but for me it really is true). But dang, what I wouldn’t do to turn the clock back beyond the 60’s (which music I actually also love).
re: #44 by Jehu
Thank you, Jehu.
I did a Memorial Day post, set to go off at 0400, PST or EST I don’t know.
But I did not include n2l’s link, would someone please do a post tomorrow with his link, it is the greatest as per norm with n2l.
re: #56 by WrathofG-d
I loved the 50’s, and not just because I was little kid that found adventure and fun in the simplest activities.
It was a time of peace after a brutal world war, and our parents were looking at a peaceful future for us kids, and themselves.
My grandparents couldn’t quite understand us, but loved us dearly. My great grandfather wouldn’t have anything to do with us, we were too spoiled and care free. A lifestyle he had never known.
re: #58 by BS Detector
Dang it now,
barBSD.You are embarrassing me. I don’t take praise well.
I thought it only adequate, but heart felt.
The American character as displayed in its warriors is one of beauty and grace. People look around for the presence of God in this earth, are they so blind they did not see it when that Marine got up and danced on the hood of that jeep as our troops went into Baghdad, just to make some sad little Iraqi kids laugh.
Did they not see it when the pictures came of tough Marines weeping as they held little kids in their arms that they rescued from Saddam’s political prison? Did they not see it when our boys suffer death and maiming when they take fire from the enemy that hides behind women and children, and our boys do not shoot back? Did they not see it when young men fell on grenades to save their friends? This from young men that have all of life ahead of them.
God damn the Left, and reporters and liberals that demean our warriors and use them as political fodder. God damn the Murthas, the Kerrys, and all the spawn of snakes that do not see the humble face of God in the tears of soldiers that witness the worst injustices on earth, who’s spirits cry for the ability to protect and deliver the innocent.
This is what God has worked in a people for thousands of years that first listened to a word given by Moses, and later through the Christian Apostles, and now it comes down to America where that light has been protected, protected by the American soldier, and now all the forces of darkness have arisen, filled with Satanic wrath to snuff out that light, here and in Israel.
But our soldiers, I believe, have only been our feeble earthly efforts to fight evil, soon, very soon the very angels of God shall take a hand, as they did in the days of the Kings of Israel, and the evil that has been tricked into revealing itself shall be destroyed.
re: #55 by no2liberals
Dude, sorry to bug you. But if you have a link handi to the story of the soilder that dead twice in one day, I would really like to add that to my Memorial Day post.
But only ifs its handi.
And Wrath was asking what clay pigeon barrel he should get for his Mossberg 500 Shotgun, you are really the one he needs to hear from.
re: #59 by no2liberals
What I like about the 50s is how it seemed to fit exactly into a larger plan. Men knew what their role was as did women (that’s right…I said it…ROLES). Men worked hard, and women did the most important job in the world – kept the home, and raised the children.
Men respected family, and sacrificed for their wives. Women above all else respected themselves.
Idealized? Maybe, but I’m an idealist. So there!
re: #62 by BS Detector
Yeah, brb.
re: #60 by no2liberals
You are embarrassing me. I don’t take praise well.
I don’t either, so there my friend.
re: #62 by BS Detector
Here you go.
Actually, I was reaching for it when you posted, as I was going to use a quote for Jehu.
re: #63 by WrathofG-d
Wrath
The wife and I long for those simpler days. Yes my wife likes her “role” as I also like mine.
Women’s lib really mucked that all up, yet women still cant pee standing up!
Wow, I am a poet!
re: #61 by Jehu
A quote from a post I made from a story by War Chick, which can be found in its entirety on a reply to bar.
re: #66 by no2liberals
Thanks a ton n2l.
re: #63 by WrathofG-d
You must be an aladam creationist. Where is savage when a banning is in order?
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re: #55 by no2liberals
Yer killing me back. I just weep, all I see is the utter goodness of God. The one that killed me is right in the beginning, the young woman stretched out on the grave of her beloved…oohhhh. How can we have something like the Left in this country? Can they not see the depth of character, the love, the unselfish giving to something greater than ME, ME, ME. God is preparing those that He will choose to hang out with through eternity.
I want to go find Jeremiah Wright now and kick his ass, then heal him so I can kick his ass again.
re: #63 by WrathofG-d
I understand what you mean, as it was true for most, but not for me.
Both of my parents worked, as did my grandparents, but everyone understood their respective roles, and embraced them.
Many years ago, I was attending a management seminar. As an exercise, the lecturer asked everyone to write down who was the best manager they had ever known, and why. I thought for several minutes, and had to conclude it was my maternal grandmother. When asked, I explained that she ran an active farm, complete with cash crops, livestock, a large garden, and two employees(which were family to me), and a host of grandkids running around. Yet, she was able to direct everyone to what their tasks were each day, without writing anything down, and would follow up at appropriate times.
She was the true strength of the family, the generational glue, and was always a lady. She actually lived the creed “don’t say anything if you can’t say something nice,” by deed.
re: #70 by song_and_dance_man
Hey, I’m an Admin around here… I ban myself, I instruct myself to get my own blog, and I bid myself adieu!
But seriously, yes ROLES! I really think that this is probably one of the major issues inflicting society today. Moral, and existence confusion. Women are trying to be men, and men are stuck being children. Overall, we are all selfish! Marriage has gone from a mending of two souls which compliment each other to two people who compete constantly with each other.
We need to stop thinking we are smarter than G-d, and just accept our ROLES. I have such contempt for those who have brainwashed women into thinking that there is no value, or eternal benefit to raising a home. It is the discounting of raising a home that has created the mass social problems we see today. If you don’t have a solid home, how can you have anything else? It is attempting to build a building without a proper foundation.
Raising a home is the most important job in the world. Making money is only good for this lifetime. Making a home last for eternity. It (home/child raising/family) is the true core of all existence…and for this reason G-d gave this job to women.
He knew that men would mess it up!
re: #72 by no2liberals
Women get short shrift in today’s society, and I believe that in many way that is their own doing. As I state above, they are trying to be men, instead of acknowledging and accepting their own greatness – not because they are ‘like men’ but because they are women.
Women need to embrace their feminine qualities, and cherish them; have pride in them. Seriously what is more powerful than an actually female woman?
It is such a shame the women today. They shirk their feminine role, and take on all the negative qualities of being men. So frustrating the joy they get these days rolling around in the filth that men cannot get out of.
re: #71 by Jehu
I know, I watched that video many times, but finally chose another for my post. You should see the one I chose.
The image you mentioned hit me hard, as did the little Marine saluting his fallen father.
I don’t wish to go on a rant about the left today, it is a day of unification.
Let them live the lies they have accepted as truth about this great nation, and the magnificent men and women that created it, and maintain it.
There is a reason I chose this nic, and have written about it.
re: #72 by no2liberals
Sounds a lot like my great grandma. Never learned how to read or write since back then, Italian women were told to stay at home and raise the kids. But she ruled that house with an iron fist, no backtalking to her or you would get a willow switch across the back of the legs, HARD!
re: #73 by WrathofG-d
Overall, we are all selfish!
Therein lies our whole problem and all our problems.
re: #73 by WrathofG-d
Many years ago a few of my friends(husband and wives) got into this discussion, and in due time it ventured into the arena of religion and how God intended the family to be with the appropriate roles delegated to each gender.
And of course someone chimed in that Eve had blown it for women by eating of the forbidden fruit. I simply stated that Eve was deceived, but Adam knew what he was doing and so the burden was on him for his error and they both suffered for it.
The women agreed and cheered on me, while the bros looked at me as a traitor.
re: #74 by WrathofG-d
I agree that women have been led to believe things that go against their very nature.
Those that don’t get the respect they deserve for being women, do so because they have bought into the notion that there are not specific roles in society.
It is another example of the assault of cultural Marxism, in an attempt to destroy the family.
I was fortunate to have such strong women in my life, and I loved and respected them dearly.
I then treated my daughters, and now granddaughters with that same love and respect.
I have always been in awe of the power women have. That they can bestow a gift from God is astounding to me.
Oh wait, that is a creationists view.
/goes to corner
re: #76 by savage
My grandmother would do the same with a weeping willow switch. We really had to act “ugly” to force her into corporal punishment mode, though. It pained her to whup us.
Women are those that make men possible.
re: #78 by song_and_dance_man
A man’s role is to be a man. That means to please his wife, and be completely giving. Men need to be men, and stop acting like children. Its not easy, but it is necessary.
Men these days are like women. They are looking for honor, and to receive. This is not a man’s role however. A man’s role is to give. The minute is expects something in return, or asks “what am I getting” he is being like a woman – and this is wrong for him.
Men and women are meant to compliment each other. Now they just compete within the Marriage/relationship, this is horrible.
A woman is the home. She is the base. The core. Everything! Woman should be honored, and men respected.
Judaism teaches that woman are a reflection of G-d’s will. How you treat your Wife is how you treat G-d. A great relationship with G-d means a great relationship with your wife, and vice versa. Its a super deep concept, but the point is that as you do to your Wife you do to G-d – and how she treats you is how G-d thinks of you. Get right and cherish your Wife, and G-d will get right with you.
Any man that looks for honor, or such from their wife is not being a real man! They are acting like children and asking “what about me”. It is not easy (as nothing important is) but they need to suck it up!
The most degraded of societies demean their women. Is it just a coincidence that Judaism and Christianity have done more to elevate and liberate women than any human philosophy on earth?
re: #79 by no2liberals
re: #82 by song_and_dance_man
There is a fantastic book on the role of men in marriage. It isn’t easy, but the results are truly G-dlike. As well, it is written from a Jewish viewpoint, and for Jews. The themes however are universal if you can weed through the Jewish terms.
It is called “The Garden of Peace” (actually “Gan Shalom” in Hebrew which translates to the same thing)
Wrath
Reading a book a few years ago called “The Return of the Nephilim,” written by a Rabbi and a Pastor. What was illuminating is they showed how you do not understand the will of God, nor do Christians understand a great deal of the Bible until they understand the ancient Jewish rites of courtship and marriage. The books of Moses and the prophets are intertwined in their revelation about the courtship and marriage rites, of course really pointing us to our relationship with God. Indeed the way a man treats his wife is the revelation of how he treats God, and perhaps the same for the women.
re: #81 by no2liberals
The Baptist school I had to go to in 6th grade, those woman had no problem with whipping anyone.
Not say’n I didn’t deserve what I got, as you already know.
re: #86 by Jehu
Yes! It is hard to explain to someone who does not “see” and understand G-d, but when you concentrate on the “give and take” of a relationship with G-d the similarities between a relationship with G-d, and that with your wife is quite obvious actually.
An honest relationship with G-d is love, trust, acceptance, understanding, and constant work to be a better person. It is relating to something that you already are but cannot be. (if that makes sense) Same with a wife. It is love, trust, acceptance, understanding, and constant work to be a better husband.
Jewish tradition states that before the world was created, souls were split and then put upon this Earth where they search for each other. When you find your correct wife/husband, and get married you put that soul back together again. I see this as exactly the point of life/religion. You are separated from G-d and work to put yourself back together again with Him. So once again your soul can be complete.
The marriage ceremony for Jew is a process of melding the soul back together again. Thus your wife/husband truly completes you. They are two opposite, yet similar parts that have always needed each other to create a complete whole.
Wrath
I like the way you do not spell out God’s name, like the scribes of old, who when they wrote God’s name they threw away the scribe and had to use a new one.
My spiritual father always told us that we must love the Jews because to “them were entrusted the Oracles of God.” He considered just that deed alone to be worthy of never ending honor.
I should mention, in case y’all missed it before, I have been happily divorced for many years.
Unfortunately, I married badly and far too young, no excuses. However, I relished the role, and thought I had a partner that shared my goals, and was capable of keeping an agreement. I was proven wrong. So after many years of taking her abuse, both emotional and physical, I sought a divorce, which made me feel like a failure. I fought for the custody of my daughters for eight years, and got them away from her for a few years, and we finally had to have a jury trial to settle the matter.
The end result was, though she tried to poison my children on me, as they became adults, they realized the truth, and now, they won’t have anything to do with her.
I nearly remarried a few times, but with my experience, and with my growing daughters and business, it just never worked out.
Shame too, as I was meant to be a husband and father. My upbringing prepared me for it.
re: #83 by WrathofG-d
I agree to a point.
As a boy I looked to my mother for approval and as a man I look to my wife for the same approval. And this gets back into your other argument about men being woman and woman being men today.
But if the wife does not approve and expresses nothing but her disapproval, its hard to be a real man and do what’s right. Myself, I want to run from that situation and never return.
Now that is coming from a man who has been married to the same woman for 17 years and without kids, what that means I don’t know?
re: #87 by BS Detector
Yeah, but those were the hired help.
I’m talking about my beloved Mammaw, the sweetest and kindest woman to have ever lived.
I know you were a bad kid, and I had some moments, but it hurt me to see my Mammaw so upset with me, that she would have to punish me, which hurt her more than anything.
re: #88 by WrathofG-d
This has been about the way I look upon this also. God contains/is the feminine and masculine. As men, or women we are incomplete. This is why homosexuality is a sin, not because of the actual sex act, IMO, it is because you violate something deeper. One thing is that in a true marriage relationship, if God is involved, you get to deep truth, and that damn well hurts, being a lying human being.
If you are not held into that relationship you will bolt and go find something you like, or rather is easy, or just is a fulfillment of your own lust.
Homosexuality is anti-spiritual, it is the defiance of a soul that will not allow itself to be touched deep in truth to mature, so they hide out in phony human-invented relationships.
Then demand everyone kiss their ass and tell them how wonderful they are…ahh, no you are still just a liar, go through what God has given you to go through.
re: #89 by Jehu
G-ds name is Holy. To keep something holy you must separate it, keep it special, keep it Holy. I am a bit sheepish for the credit/honor however. I am exceptionally proud to be a Jew, and a keep of our job, but am just a vessel of my role. It is Judaism that should be given praise…and of course G-d!
re: #90 by no2liberals
sorry to hear bout the divorce and the not-so-nice wife. I make it a habit not to get involved with other’s personal lives though…So I will shush it now..
Well, I need to shut it down.
For Jehu, this is the video I chose.
/grab a Kleenx
re: #92 by no2liberals
N2l
Hired help will beat you quicker.
Yeah I understand the grandma part. Nothing worse then letting loved ones down.
re: #93 by Jehu
I too agree that homosexuality does not allow one to experience their full potential. For many of the reasons you rightly explain – that G-d created us all to complement each other, men & woman. This is something deep, and unshakable.
However, and don’t take this the wrong way, your sales pitch on this is only going to turn people off. Sin is sin. Homosexuality is just one of them. They all turn one away from a deep Truth.
For example, Jews are instructed to “keep the Shabbat, and keep it holy”. This is not something that I did as a child. This was a sin. Because of it I was separated from the deeper truth and G-d Himself. Since I began doing so, I realize this. Homosexuality is not different. It is a sinful act, but no worse than the rest. They all keep you away from G-d.
So….there is also the sin of using G-d’s name in vain. This can be interpreted as acting in a way that turns people away from G-d. Attacking gays, or presenting the deeper truth in a way that makes them hate you for it, and thus G-d for it (as you are acting in His name) probably causes as much harm if not more.
I say all of this, not to lecture, or upset you. Quite the opposite actually as I understand completely where you are coming from. It is out of a love of H’S that I am concerned. If we are to take upon ourselves the name (or lessons) of G-d, we must make sure not to use it is vain, or sully it.
Hopefully I am being clear.
n2L Ya killed me, I will just go pray for the nation before I go to bed, God help, us…heal this land, remember our slain and bless our land for the sake of those that died with the love of freedom in their hearts, a freedom they were trying to extend to others, worthy or not of that freedom.
re: #94 by WrathofG-d
It’s okay, I’ve been able to joke about for quite some time.
The main thing is I learned and grew, and have two wonderful daughters, and three beautiful grandchildren. Staying positive generally produces good outcomes.
re: #99 by no2liberals
in my professional life I am very familiar with divorce. It is unfortunately a really messed up situation. You are right though, “staying positive generally produces good outcomes”. I have learned that in the end, you are still stuck with yourself, and thus you best make sure that you are happy with who you are -let the miserable be miserable and ruin their own lives.
So you wanna talk guns?
re: #97 by WrathofG-d
Good points. Again I don’t have the exact quote, but if IIRC, the Old Testament says if you break 1 law you broke all the laws.
Thus your point that certain sins or not any different then other certain sins.
Blessed
Lyrics:
Blessed are those who dwell in Your house
They are ever Praising You
Blessed are those whose strength is in You
Whose hearts are set on our God
We will go from strength to strength
Until we see You face to face
Hear our prayer
O Lord God almighty
Come bless our land
As we seek You
Worship You
For You are holy
For You are holy
For You are holy Lord
Night All
re: #101 by BS Detector
The interesting thing I will have to deal with is what to do once I have children. My best friend since infancy is homosexual. He is a wonderful human being, a really close friend, and well he has known me my entire life.
So what do I do when I am trying to raise my children in a religous life?
If I allow him to visit, I must tell my children that he is sinning, and explain homosexuality to them at a young age. Plus, I have to get into it with my friend about why I am not explaining to my kids that he is gay.
So either way I lose. I either get into it with the friend, or I get into it with the kids. Its a lose-lose.
re: #97 by WrathofG-d
Sure, I only referred to homosexuality because we were talking in context of marriage and because people are becoming militant about it now days more and more. I make no distinction about sin, including my own. All of it will kill you eventually and separate you from God for ever if not repented of.
Do you realize political correctness is only so people can cover over their sins, their modern day fig leaves so to speak. Speech codes exist so that the way is blocked to speak the truth. Thus now you cannot confront black Americans over their disgusting ghetto culture, cause that is not cool. Or you cannot tell a feminist she is simply being a bitch, not a liberated thinker…etc. Anyway now is really nighty night for me.
re: #100 by WrathofG-d
Henh.
We can talk guns later. I’ve been running on nervous energy much of the day, and finally feel like I can rest.
As difficult as the divorce was, and the resulting custody battle, the decision to get divorced was the most difficult. I’ve never been a quitter, which is usually a good thing, but has proven detrimental, in some instances.
I learned a great deal from the experience, and would like to think I was able to give wise counsel to some, based on my experience.
I’ll be around some tomorrow. I do plan to go visit the D/FW National Cemetery tomorrow afternoon.
re: #104 by Jehu
I look forward to continuing this conversation with you in the future.
But before you go, this is what us Jews say before bed.
re: #105 by no2liberals
Have a wonderful sleep.
re: #107 by WrathofG-d
You as well.
Children are a blessing.
Grandbabies are the best!!!
re: #103 by WrathofG-d
Wrath
That is a difficult situation.
But I know that God is love, true love that is.
But not a love that we humans understand, it’s a love that transcends our understanding.
He loves us even while we are yet still sinners, so maybe something like that could be possibly be explained. Now that is not to say that your children would see that sin as OK, but that they would understand the true love God has for that person.
I have to say that God’s love I can not really explain, its beyond the words I have to express it. Yet it is summed up in the old Christian saying of “love the sinner, hate the sin.” if that makes any sense?
re: #104 by Jehu
Have a good night.
re: #109 by BS Detector
Yea, if it ever gets to that point I’m just going to hope that my friend doesn’t bring it up.
Your point is well taken but a child just isn’t going to understand the nuance of all that.
re: #110 by BS Detector
Later, bud.
/n2l…over and out
Ok it seems that everyone is going to sleep, or otherwise checking out.
So I offer Damien Rice.
re: #112 by no2liberals
Good night n2l, the link master, gun master.
re: #111 by WrathofG-d
Very true.
Ok WrathofG-d is going.
I leave you all with this:
re: #113 by WrathofG-d
Oh and that link to the barrel you had in the other thread, that looks good.
For trap you want the longest barrel you can get.
re: #116 by WrathofG-d
Have a good night Wrath.