This is very interesting reading. There are a lot of links in the original blogpost which are right out of LGF and other places, so if you have time, go right to the original source. Anyways, enjoy this post…
Since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, jazz musician and Web designer Charles Johnson has devoted his blog, Little Green Footballs, to exposing Muslim extremism in and outside the United States. His targets have included the Council on American-Islamic Relations, filmmaker Michael Moore, Reuters, Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.), Dan Rather, and the late pro-Palestinian activist Rachel Corrie — who some LGF commenters (not Johnson) call “St. Pancake,” a tribute to the Israeli steamroller that killed her. LGF helped write the lexicon of the self-styled “anti-Jihadist” blogosphere — from “moonbat” (”an unthinking or insane leftist”) to “anti-idiotarian” (”anyone who grasps the significance of and does his or her best to combat the post-9/11 political alliance between the ‘Old Left’ and militant Islam”).
But in the early days of Barack Obama’s presidency, LGF has become better known for the various fights it picks with many on the right — including conservative bloggers, critics of Islamic extremism, and critics of Islam in general who used to be Johnson’s fellow travelers.
Johnson has blasted Fox News host Glenn Beck, promoting a video from a Beck-inspired party that shows conservatives ranting about evolution and arguing that “this turn toward the extreme right on the part of Fox News is troubling, and will achieve nothing in the long run except further marginalization of the GOP.” In response to the news that the Department of Homeland Security was watching for increased right-wing extremism — something that most of the conservative blogosphere, like most Republicans, responded to with angry ridicule — Johnson pointed to the recent arrests of right-wing terrorists and criticized bloggers for buying into “distorted claims” about the DHS report. When Obama genuflected before King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia, Johnson found archival video of President Bush bowing to take a medal from the King and urged conservatives to turn down their “hyperventilating nonsense.”
This has the blogger’s peers asking themselves the same question, over and over: What the heck happened to Charles Johnson?
“I don’t think I’ve changed,” Johnson said. “I’ve always been pretty independent. This is something I’ve really tried to put out there on my blog. I don’t consider myself right-wing.”
It sounds strange coming from a blogger who played an underrated role in forcing CBS News to back down from its 2004 story on President George W. Bush’s Texas Air National Guard service, and whose first reaction to Obama’s election in November — after a quick post congratulating him — was to note that the Muslim Brotherhood, “the world’s largest jihadist organization,” was pleased.
Johnson supported Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) in 2008, but he spent some of the campaign attacking anti-Obama conspiracy theorists, and he rejected the idea designs were malicious, rather than merely naive. Johnson worries, in conversation and on his blog, that his old allies have been duped by far-right European political parties and have bought into wild attacks on the president that discredit their own causes.
“I don’t think there is an anti-jihadist movement anymore,” Johnson said. “It’s all a bunch of kooks. I’ve watch some people who I thought were reputable, and who I trusted, hook up with racists and Nazis. I see a lot of them promoting stories and causes that I think are completely nuts.”
Johnson’s disgust with the terrorism-focused conservative blogosphere has had a traumatic effect on a dogged and dogmatic community of bloggers and scholars. When Johnson began blogging about Islam and terrorism after 9/11, he inspired untold other supporters of an aggressive war on terror to start their own Websites, link up, and push back against “Dhimmitude” — organizations and foreign policy decision makers that were “soft” on terrorism. Now, some of his followers have started blogs that track Johnson’s “madness,” while a video that portrays Johnson as Adolf Hitler going mad in his bunker makes the rounds.
“He’s the reason I started blogging,” said Atlas Shrugs editor Pamela Geller, a New Yorker who says she was “mugged by Sept. 11″ and started reading LGF for news and fellowship. “I wrote birthday messages to him. I respected and admired him.”
Robert Spencer, the director of JihadWatch and the author of the bestselling, “Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam,” had an established career as a critic of militant Islam before he met Johnson. “But right after 9/11, he was the only one out there reporting on this,” Spencer said. “He built my Website. I learned how to blog from reading his stuff.”
Johnson has turned hard against Spencer and Geller, attacking the former for joining a “genocidal Facebook group,” while referring to the latter as a “shrieking lunatic,” and labeling both of them “hatebloggers.” Johnson now points to Geller’s posts about Barack Obama’s heritage and her quest to fund a headstone for the victim of a Muslim honor killing as proof that “the woman is deranged.” Other bloggers in the movement have been purged from Johnson’s blogroll or pilloried on the site, never to be mentioned again. The most successful sites that arose in LGF’s wake, including Gateway Pundit, Gates of Vienna, and Brussels Journal, are also on the outs.
While Johnson’s own blog was a launchpad for the movement and his comment sections have often been a place for anti-Muslim and anti-liberal rage — one Web quiz lets users guess whether a quote comes from “Little Green Footballs or Late German Fascists” — Johnson believes that LGF is now policed for fringe activity. “A lot of the people most responsible for causing our bad reputation are now gone,” he said. “I wrote all the backend software, and I have ways of cleaning up the site.”
Johnson’s former allies can pinpoint the month, if not the moment, when he started to turn on them. In October 2007, some of the leading terrorism-focused conservative bloggers flew to Belgium for a Counterjihad Summit sponsored in part by the Center for Vigilant Freedom (now the International Civil Liberties Alliance), an outgrowth of the LGF-inspired blog Gates of Vienna.
“It was the best conference I ever went to,” remembered Geller. But the summit included members of Vlaams Belang, a controversial Belgian political party that criticizes Islam and Shariah law, and had been attacked within the Netherlands for its connections to extremism and racism. Johnson went to work exposing this, and the attendees reeled from the negative attention.
“He chose to portray the Brussels Conference as evil and he unconscionably slandered the people who attended,” said Dymphna, one of the editors of Gates of Vienna. Baron Bodissey, the other site editor (both editors use pen names), worries that Johnson “did serious damage to the American blogosphere’s view of European nationalists who oppose the EU, even those who have no anti-Semitic tendencies.”
“Not only that,” said Bodissey, “he made it harder for certain American anti-jihad groups to raise funds if they failed to repudiate his designated ‘fascist-enablers’ like us.”
Johnson is unapologetic about his actions. While he was attacking the attendees of the Counterjihad Summit, he was also blasting Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas) for taking money from, and being photographed with, the owner of the extremist Web site Stormfront.org.
“Some people at that summit in Belgium were not people we should have been associated with,” Johnson said, pointing out that since 2007 the terrorism-focused conservative bloggers have become supporters of Dutch politician Geert Wilders , who wants to outlaw Islam in his country. “Some of these people outright want to ban Islam from the United States, which I think is crazy, completely nuts. That’s not something we do in this country. These people will outright defend banning the Koran or deporting Muslims. That’s popular with the Geller/Spencer crowd.”
When they talk about Johnson today, the rest of the terrorism-focused bloggers alternate between anger and regret. He has smeared them, they say, and according to Dymphna he’s “destroyed a lot of networking that was beginning to emerge” between American and European critics of Islamic extremism. “He’s really gone off the deep end,” Geller said, pointing to Johnson’s more and more frequent criticisms of creationists, such as the attack on the anti-evolution, Glenn Beck-inspired event, which made the host angry enough to lash out at LGF on his show. “He’s a leftist blogger now.”
Johnson brushes that criticism aside. “A lot of people think I discovered this creationism thing overnight,” he said, “but that’s not true. I was posting about this before 9/11. After 9/11 I had other things on my mind. And now I’ve come back to it.” But Spencer accuses Johnson of losing sight of the threat of extremist Islam by obsessing over the American religious right and equating the two faiths.
“There is no global movement of Christians trying to subjugate the world,” Spencer said. “There is such a movement on the extreme of Islam. I wrote a book called ‘Religion of Peace’ — which Johnson wrote a favorable review of — and I looked, and didn’t find, Christian extremists who were trying to replace the Constitution with Biblical law. They’re a myth. They’re the Santa Claus of the left.”
Some of Johnson’s former allies experienced a decrease in traffic numbers when he started attacking them, but they all now feel they’ve recovered from the break. “LGF tried to destroy my reputation so I wouldn’t have the access I have to my sources in law enforcement and academia,” said Spencer, “but that hasn’t happened.”
Geller has rebounded with increased prominence — she was a guest on the Fox News show “Red Eye” last week — and she said she has survived the “besmirching” of her reputation and she now fills the information-spreading role that Johnson once did. “I get my stuff from people on the inside,” she said, “from people in Europe. I field 800-900 emails a day. We all depend on our readers for these tips. That’s where Charles was getting his stuff. And now he’s cracked and he’s not getting that anymore.”
Johnson brushes off that kind of criticism. LGF is his site, and if it has to name names and shame the people who are debasing the movement against extremist Islam, he’ll do it. “I’ve definitely seen an uptick in craziness since the election,” he sighs. “Well, I don’t know if Geller got crazier. She always was nuts.”
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OMGWTFBBQ!!!!!1
They called him a jazz musician.
Didn’t the Chuckster’s head nearly spin off his shoulders when Beck said the same thing?
I did notice that CJ couldn’t pass up the opportunity to toss some mud at Pam too.
Poor Pam, but I wonder if he didn’t start hating her until AFTER she romantically rebuffed him.
That’s just an unsubstantiated theory with no evidence to back it up, but he does have a hot-hate for that girl something bad.
The Charles Johnson ‘classy watch’ begins.
Jimmy,
I cannot find anything on youtube about his career. Not a THING. I wonder if thats all a lot of b.s….
That took about 30 seconds.
via: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Foster_Johnson
I’d say it’s safe to say the man known his way around a guitar.
Discography
1976 School Days with Stanley Clarke
1977 I’m Fine, How Are You with Airto Moreira
1977 Reach for It with George Duke
1977 Garden of Love Light with Narada Michael Walden
1978 Don’t Let Go with George Duke
1978 Don’t Ask My Neighbors with Raul DeSouza
1979 Follow the Rainbow with George Duke
1979 Future Street with Pages
1980 Nielsen Pearson with Nielsen Pearson
1980 Rocks, Pebbles and Sand with Stanley Clarke
1981 Pages [1981] with Pages
1983 Not the Boy Next Door with Peter Allen
1984 In London with Al Jarreau
1984 Live in London with Al Jarreau
1987 All In the Name of Love with Atlantic Starr
1988 Guitar Workshop: Tribute to with Otis Redding
1989 One Passion with Michael Paulo
1991 Dream On with George Duke
1993 Art & Survival with Dianne Reeves
1994 L.A. with Hiroshima
1995 Piel Ajena with Eduardo Capetillo
1996 George Duke Greatest Hits with George Duke
1996 Is That the Way to Your Heart with Kazu Matsui
1998 A Song a Day
2000 When I Hold You in My Heart with Clay Mortensen
2000 Rare Collection with Jaco Pastorius
2001 Pages [2001] with Pages
2003 Punk Jazz: The Jaco Pastorius Anthology with Jaco Pastorius
2003 In Between the Heartaches with Phyllis Hyman
I am banned from LGF for not towing the right wing sucks party line. Nice to see I’m not alone.
‘The anti-jihad movement is over.’
What a narcissist!
He’s right up there with Obama and the ‘man-made disaster’ crowd.
Recently someone was banned at lgf, not sure of the reason.An exchange between the two people was done via blog posts and johnson made a post about the incident and accused the ex-poster of makinh comments regards genocide which the ex-poster denied. Johnson produced the comment that was made by the ex poster,the ex poster in ture denied that they had made the comment.
I forget the ex posters tag or their blog,perhaps someone else can remember,this all took place recently.
Now to the point, johnson can edit comments made by posters,not just delete them but edit them,if he can remove text from a posted comment he can add to it or change it in any way he wishes.
How dangerous is that for any poster at his site when his ability to lie and smear is already evident.
Here’s the link the comment
For clarity “lurking faith” made comment # 1136 which included a quote from a poster that had been banned. johnson removed the quote but not the post
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7471/charlesjohnsonpostedits.jpg
Recently someone was banned at lgf, not sure of the reason.An exchange between the two people was done via blog posts and johnson made a post about the incident and accused the ex-poster of making comments regards genocide which the ex-poster denied. Johnson produced the comment that was made by the ex poster,the ex poster in turn denied that they had made that comment.
I forget the ex posters tag or their blog,perhaps someone else can remember,this all took place recently.
Now to the point, johnson can edit comments made by posters,not just delete them but edit them,if he can remove text from a posted comment he can add to it or change it in any way he wishes.
How dangerous is that for any poster at his site when his ability to lie and smear is already evident.
Here’s the link the comment
For clarity “lurking faith” made comment # 1136 which included a quote from a poster that had been banned. johnson removed the quote but not the post
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7471/charlesjohnsonpostedits.jpg
I think all the cool right-wingers hang out at Ace of Spades HQ anyway.
Just tried to make a post it hasn’t shown up yet?
Recently someone was banned at lgf, not sure of the reason.An exchange between the two people was done via blog posts and johnson made a post about the incident and accused the ex-poster of making comments regards genocide which the ex-poster denied. Johnson produced the comment that was made by the ex poster,the ex poster in turn denied that they had made that comment.
I forget the ex posters tag or their blog,perhaps someone else can remember,this all took place recently.
Now to the point, johnson can edit comments made by posters,not just delete them but edit them,if he can remove text from a posted comment he can add to it or change it in any way he wishes.
How dangerous is that for any poster at his site when his ability to lie and smear is already evident.
Here’s the link the comment
For clarity “lurking faith” made comment # 1136 which included a quote from a poster that had been banned. johnson removed the quote but not the post
link to follow.
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7471/charlesjohnsonpostedits.jpg
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http://tinyurl.com/c3rngz
Here’s the link
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7471/charlesjohnsonpostedits.jpg
link here:
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Try again here it is…
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7471/charlesjohnsonpostedits.jpg
I’ll repeat what I said when this “Civil War” business came up on a thread in Free Republic.
“No civil war here. Charles Johnson never was a conservative, and his blog has never been a “conservative blog.” Johnson is simply a leftist who woke up for a few years after 9-11, but has since gotten stuck on stupid again. I spent a few years on his blog, and even though he marginally had a clue about Islam and GWOT-related issues, I still always got the sense that he was “uncomfortable” with conservatives on his blog. All we see now is him being open about what he was keeping a lid on for a few years.”
Try again:
http://tinyurl.com/preview.php?num=c3rngz
Charles Johnson is crazy, nuts,out of his mind…and he plays jazz for Petes sake.
I witnessed Nancy’s initial melt down from Gates of Vienna.
It was one of the most bizarre blog scenes I have ever witnessed. He clung to the flimsiest “facts” that he got from a far left blog, and refused to debate with the Baron or Dymphna on the issue.
I think it was his ego, that caused all of his problems with the other respected counter-jihad blogs and organizations. Apparently, in his deluded mind, he was the greatest, and every one should run their approaches and ideas by him first, for his approval.
Like storagemanager said:
6 V the K
“I think all the cool right-wingers hang out at Ace of Spades HQ anyway.”
Also at Hot Air. Funny how Johnson always likes to make himself into the innocent victim.
Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus
I remember you very well from LGF days. I too got the impression that Johnson (as well as Christopher Hitchens – Hitchens supported Obama last year) although correct on the GWOT, felt rather uncomfortable with his allies in that war and was longing to go back to his left or left of center roots.
…and this site.
I generally like Hot Air, but it would be better without AllahPundit.
Jimmy The Clam, you are aware I am sure that anyone – including Charles Johnson himself – can edit his wiki entry, right?
Show us something that doesn’t come from wiki.
I don’t see any particular reason to doubt it. The guy was a session guitarist, they don’t usually show up on credits.
What’s kind of weird is that “Discarded Lies,” which was the first LGF-in-Exile blog has also been swinging left lately. They don’t ban anybody for disagreeing, but the posts are increasingly probama, pro-socialized health care, anti-capitalism, pro-bailouts, anti-Tea Party, …
Maybe he’s got a Muslim girlfriend now? LOL!
I still think he was Gordon…
why do we obsess about this? I think for the same reason conservatives insist that the record be corrected about Sullivan, McCain and others; they aren’t conservatives but are call conservatives, we can’t let them define us.
3. Jimmy The Clam
He’s trying to go with “Foster” as his middle name?
Did he get tired of Icarus?
Sorry about the repeat posts/reposts, i’m not sure why they didn’t show at the time.
For some reason any post i made with a link didn’t show up in the comments.
They do now, sorry about that.
Don’t worry about it Ray! Our spam catcher is notoriously nuts
) But when we let them out, we don’t delete any because it may make the spam system think it really was spam.
I presume this will all just fade away, as we all have more important issues to deal with. If you kick enough people off your blog, eventually there will be nobody left but your little cult, and then what purpose does it serve. I don’t know who assigned the right wing civil war headline to this, but its hardly accurate.
19. storagemanager
I agree. Jazz is an edgy art. It attracts edgy and largely unhappy people.
Personally, I like Miles Davis. The rest is noise.
Speaking of Civil War…. the Obama Administration announced, now that their popularity is starting to go down and people are starting to pay attention to what he’s doing, that they may seek out charges against the Bush Administration for “torture techniques” and “War Crimes”.
That’s right, keep the proles clueless and content by sometimes throwing them a bone.
No doubt CJ is a talented musician and I used to think he was a straight up guy.
As for music – personally I prefer Blues.
Don’t worry Lance. They love him in Egypt! I don’t know WHY he doesn’t have 100% approval ratings in America *shaking head*
How’s this for an idea?
Why doesn’t Chuckles just completely do away with registration and members at 1.0 and just write the comments himself?
Would save a lot of wear and tear on his ban button, no?
oooh, thanks for bringing that to our attention. i posted the following there:
“Charles Johnson is a petty, immature liar. PERIOD. If you post a comment on his blog with which he disagrees, he BANS your account then smears you. I’ve also seen him EDIT the allegedly offending comment to make the poster look worse. I’ve seen him edit his own comments in threads after he himself posted something offensive about Christians such as this
“By the way, radical Islamists are also very opposed to the theory of evolution, and very big on their own version of “intelligent design.” It’s something that Islamofascists and far-right religious fanatics have in common.”
which you can find here http://littlegreenfootballs.com/showc/641/5426112
Not much open discourse on LGF for quite some time.
He also ridicules and denigrates anyone who believes in even the remotest possibility that God actually created anything.
He also has delusions that people are “trashing” him. He’s so paranoid, he closed his “lounge” chat room stating that people were “badmouthing” him in his own chat. That is bull. I never trashed him there nor did I see anyone else trash him there. We ABANDONED his chat and created our own (a link to which you can find on my blog). He chat was defunct for two days before he figured it out. And, while he says he’s such a great programmer, it took him FOUR DAYS to fully shut it down.
The man is a fool and no longer credible on ANY topic.”
I should have added that he’s a despicable human being but I think that’s pretty evident from what I did write.
36 Arwyn
Well sure they love him in Egypt…. apparently he and they share a common enemy or two.
38 TheSneak
He banned one person (I forget who) was banned for suggesting that Charles isn’t the awesome programmer that Charles said he was. He suggested that Charles is mediocre at programming.
banned. heh.
“…who wants to outlaw Islam in his country. “Some of these people outright want to ban Islam from the United States, which I think is crazy, completely nuts…”
Typical. Argument to back that up? Numerous writings, including Charles’ own numerous “Religion of Peace” posts (of course!) back up the fact that Islam is in no way compatible with peaceful reasoning coexistence with other religions. I’m not extremist/nuts/religionist/racist or anything like that, this is just the unavoidable, indisputable fact that we have to face (and it’s been declared countless times, openly, and again, pointed to by CJ himself) if we intend Western civilization to survive instead of being dragged back into another Dark Age. I would argue that religious freedom doesn’t include allowing a religion that is actively trying to undermine the other ones, let alone the civilized world.
#41
Exactly. The Constitution is not a suicide pact.
#40 LanceKates
well, it wasn’t me because I was already banned for before I ever said that. but, i do agree. he’s pathetic! When he created his lounge, he whined and moaned about it for weeks. it’s a freaking parachat! the easiest thing in the WORLD to use! he coudlnt’ figure it out for weeks! took him an hour to kick everyone out of his lounge. he kept entering to see if it was still active! fool
oh, and for the record, my user over there was KIRLY.
Ah, here’s another one from my morning reading roundup – see http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/33445_Anti-Obama_Rumor_Mill_Exposed_Again for CJ take – oh really? http://ruleofreason.blogspot.com/2009/04/guns-of-nihilism.htm
Note that Cline does admit to some details differing in accounts, but I think it’s safe to say that CJ is firmly a member of the “sycophantic news media” on this one.
ok..
anyone see the ‘amazon’s got groceries’ thread at 1.0?
and this guy rants about ‘credibility’?
Groceries – oh God yes. What a tool.
#45. Former LGF’er:
Yes, and if you look at the URLs in the status bar as you pass the mouse over his links to Amazon.com, they have LGF as the reference link. Which means he gets a percentage of what you purchase over a Amazon.com if you go there via his web page.
@TheSneak & LanceKates:
I can second that assessment. He acts like he’s this programming genius but back when he talked about it on his blog, I kept getting the feeling that he didn’t know that much. I’m a relatively good programmer – I know how much I know, but more importantly I know also how much I don’t know (and that’s quite a bit) – and judging from what he was saying it’s clear that I know a hell of a lot more than Johnson when it comes to code. One example that always sticks with me was when he spent an entire post blathering about serialising an array into a constant to allow its use elsewhere in the program. Duh! That’s software dev 101 stuff! It took him, what, ten years to figure this out? And his site is shit-slow at the best of times. It’s a good bet that he doesn’t know how to optimise his code because I’ve seen sites with way more “features” on the front page load in a fraction of the time.
But now I’m ranting. Please excuse the saxon vernacular.
“18 Charles
4/21/09 9:39:37 pm reply quote 3downupreport
Amazon Prime, by the way, is one of the most awesome deals on the web. Order anything you want, no price limit, and get unlimited 2-day shipping, for only $79 a year. One-day shipping for $3.99.
I’ve been working the heck out of this program for 3 years.”
I guess if you never, ever leave your house this is good.
I am visualizing a remark of Steve Martin’s “The Jerk” starring Charles Johnson…
“The Amazon groceries are here! The Amazon groceries are here!”
I remember making the comment on LGF none-point-zero that the website was terribly slow and got down dinged by several people.
It made me immediately think that what I was saying was 100% truth and those cultoids obviously didn’t like it.
yeah CJ is really scraping the barrel for topics – groceries at amazon?
Sharmuta – “Charles you are so clever”
How soon before the obligatory Texas School Board creationist thread?
53. Speranza-
Did you read the following comments on the amazon groceries thread?
“3 Sharmuta
4/21/09 9:32:42 pm
4downupreport
I can has cheeseburger?!”
“4 Charles
4/21/09 9:33:33 pm
4downupreport
Cheeseburgers would probably not be the best thing to order through Amazon…”
And WHO updinged these two dingdongs? Cripes almighty!
former LGFer
Friggin’ morons. I’ll bet you that Spencer and Pam Geller get the Idiotarian of the yer awards in December.
Sadly, Occasional Reader updinged her.I thought O.R. was a lot smarter then that. I did not recognize the other names.
I hope no one tells Johnson that amazon sells book on creationism… it might upset the apple cart.
I wonder if Johnson has photos of Charles Darwin all over his home.
Another link to a favorable article on CJ is now up.
#59 Speranza:
“I wonder if Johnson has photos of Charles Darwin all over his home.”
Nope…just on the ceiling over his bed.
And in Sharmuta’s apratment there are pictures of the Lizard master every where.
#62 Speranza:
“And in Sharmuta’s apartment there are pictures of the Lizard master every where.”
And depleted batteries from “AA” to “D”.
Ha!
[Deleted By Request of Author]
Let me try that again:
#58 Former – you beat me to it. Here’s one such book from Amazon.com I’m sure Johnson would love:
Darwin’s Plantation: Evolution’s Racist Roots, by Ken Ham, Charles Ware
-(Do a search for that on Amazon.com, and it will show up.)
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To the blog’s admins: please check your e-mail account (the G-mail one advertised in the right hand column of the blog), I just sent you guys an e-mail. Thank you!
You know, while we’re at it – CJ obsession with ZooBorns – good grief.
I’ll stick with FUP myself – http://fuckyoupenguin.blogspot.com/
Just come from ace of spades, they’re tearing johnson a new one.
http://ace.mu.nu/archives/286353.php
67. Timc & 68. Ray
Ok, I should probably know this, but how do you do those in text links?
If you mean live links,it’s copy and paste the link then press enter.
folks
Charmuta is Charles
I posted this in another thread
it’s so simple to see
Regarding the ZooBorns, notice how it is usually an ape pic he posts? Is it something to do with his evolution obsession, or does he just feel solidarity with other poo-flinging apes?
Thank you for deleting my #65! (I’m not sure which admin removed it, but thank you!)
#72, poo flinging, great
#66 CloudyDay
“Darwin’s Plantation: Evolution’s Racist Roots, by Ken Ham, Charles Ware”
I have that book. There used to be another one called One Blood, also by Ken Ham. Ken Ham is brilliant! If you EVER get a chance to attend one of his lectures, do so! He and his team spent an entire weekend at my church last year – and so did I. 6 seminar style lectures in place of the sermons. Incredible! Can’t recommend them enough
I think their website is http://www.answersingenesis.org.
He created the Creation Museum in Kentucky (near Cincinatti) and thanks to CJ and his constant hate, I’m going to go there very soon.
Ray:
You have to read post #109. Hilarious. He nails it.
“big cake of suck.”
Yes,that’s about right.
Probably knowing that those on his site (and most others) don’t actually fact check or do research, Mr. Johnson has posted a thread about another (unknown) Blog stating what a great guy he is versus those monsters at GoV, Atlast, blah blah blah.
(we get it dude…some people love you. Has anyone said otherwise; we see the posters at LGF)
That person was Michael van der Galiën.
So who is this Michael? Well, I don’t know the man and he might be a wonderful person…but this is what his site ( http://www.poligazette.com/about/ ) says about him:
“He is a 23-year-old former law, now American Studies student at the Rijksuniversiteit Groningen in the Netherlands”
–Ok he is very young, and a college student . Both advantages and disadvantages.
“In September 2007, Michael became Correspondent in the Netherlands for Pajamas Media. He reports for them about Dutch politics, European politics and the transatlantic relationship.”
-Wow, someone that works for the company Charles co-created likes LGF…who would have imagined.
-and now to how he qualifies himself politically:
“Michael is a conservative liberal…” ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_liberalism )…
-There is nothing wrong with being a “conservative liberal”, in many ways I guess I could be one, but at least he admits that he is a liberal.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_liberalism
It won’t work with brackets
Michael van der Galiën is also a muslim convert who denies the Armenian genocide.
80. Ray
Those are bold statements against Michael Van Der Galiën.
Can you back those up?
http://www.zend2.com/go.php?u=Oi8vd3d3LnBvbGlnYXpldHRlLmNvbS8yMDA4LzA0LzA3L3RoZS1hcm1lbmlhbi1xdWVzdGlvbi1hbnN3ZXJlZC8%3D&b=13
In his own words just posted a link for you.It’s not shown up yet.
That link was about the Armenian genocide,you want one about him being a muslim convert too?.
Michael Van Der Galiën:
“I helped him publish his posts, insert links, etc. I even phoned him a couple of times to help him out with technical problems – I mentioned the fact that I am a Muslim.”
http://www.poligazette.com/2009/02/22/one-man-less-a-minor-dutch-controversy/
Jihad Watch also took him to task for this statement: The Koran doesn’t teach violence any more than the Bible or Torah. This would appeal to CJ.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/018752.php
Read the article and the comments:
http://www.zend2.com/go.php?u=Oi8vd3d3LnBvbGlnYXpldHRlLmNvbS8yMDA3LzEwLzEyL3RoZS1hcm1lbmlhbi1sb2JieS8%3D&b=13
83. Ray
Interesting, but that link also states that he is “Sufi” (which I am told means he is not an Islamist)
From links like these below, he also seems to be one of the good guys.
http://www.poligazette.com/2009/04/22/dutch-parliament-agrees-to-block-all-dialogue-with-hamas/
However, I asked and you backed it up. People will take these new facts how ever they would like to.
Thank you for the courtesy of “backing it up” though, I appreciate it.
Still waiting for two more comments to show in regards to the Armenian genocide.
Both comments i posted have links,they may have got stuck in the filter?.
87. Ray
Yes I am working on putting those posts though. They got caught by the spam filter.
re: #75 Kirly
And too, his Australian accent, Ken Ham’s, is delightful to listen to –at least I myself think so….
And, when you DO go visit that museum, know that my eldest daughter, when she was 17, gave $100 toward its creation, when it was still only in the blueprint stage…. : )
Wrath0fG-d
Here’s another one for you,article and comments.
johnsons new back slapping ass kissin’ friend:
http://www.zend2.com/go.php?u=Oi8vd3d3LnBvbGlnYXpldHRlLmNvbS8yMDA4LzA1LzMxL2RlbnlpbmctZmFrZS1nZW5vY2lkZS01LXllYXJzLWluLWphaWwvY29tbWVudC1wYWdlLTEv&b=13#comments
#66 CloudyDay & #75 TheSneak & #90 Ma Sands:
“Darwin’s Plantation” is really what would have been the second edition of “One Blood.” They had updated so much of “One Blood” that they decided to change the title also.
91. Ray
Check your links before you post them please. That last one (and possibly others) didn’t work.
At ace of spades, one of CJ’s people showed up to defend their king. Terrible display of stupidity. CJ should keep these people locked in a barn. Ace of Spades is off the CJ list of approved blogs.
#90 Ma Sands
“And too, his Australian accent, Ken Ham’s, is delightful to listen to –at least I myself think so….
And, when you DO go visit that museum, know that my eldest daughter, when she was 17, gave $100 toward its creation, when it was still only in the blueprint stage…. : )”
yeah, gotta love those aussie accents. you know the funniest part? Aussies and Kiwis love our American accents!
I will think of your daughter. I too helped. It’s a beautiful thing. I wish I had billions so I could do far more.
#92 Escovedo
“Darwin’s Plantation” is really what would have been the second edition of “One Blood.” They had updated so much of “One Blood” that they decided to change the title also”
I was wondering why One Blood was no longer available. That makes sense. Thanks!
Wow! Charles just excommunicated Ace for doing nothing but not banning his posters who criticized Charles. That’s a new level of crazy even for Charles I think, expecting Ace to ban people for dinging Charles.
Beagle:
What thread is that on?
aussie dave
it’s here
http://minx.cc/?post=286353
95. Sorry, no we don’t.
99. I actually meant on which LGF thread Beagle was indicating CJ had melted down about Ace.
97. Beagle , 98 Aussie-dave & 99. TheSneak
Yes that was noticed and is presently being discussed on the “Soap Box” Thread above.
All the facts y’all are looking for are there on that Thread (links, quotes, etc.)
102. Thanks Wrath.
#92 Escovado, and Ma Sands-
I watched Ken Ham on the John Ankerberg show; he was on for a debate with a couple of other Christian gentlemen who believe in “theistic evolution.”
I take the Genesis story literally, that God created the world in six days, so I am happy that Mr. Ham defends that view.
The thing I find quite odd, though, is that John Ankerberg (a Christian apologist with his own TV show on the Day Star network) used to be a six day/young earth creationist guy, but he changed and became a believer in theistic evolution somewhere along the way.
I have a book by Ankerberg (written with another guy), that was published in the mid or late 1990s, and in it, Ankerberg and/or his co-author defended the literal, six days/YEC view.
(I think the name of the book is “Reasons to Believe” or something.)
When Ken Ham was on Ankerberg’s show about a year or two ago, Ankerberg seemed friendlier to theistic evolution.
When I went to Ankerberg’s web site a few days after watching that show with Ken Ham on it, I noticed that he has a ton of material at his site defending theistic evolution and arguing against literal six day creation/YEC.
I have no idea why Ankerberg went from being pro-Creationist to being anti-Creationist and pro-theistic evolution. That is a total let down.
Wow-the last I looked at the Ace of Spades page of comments (here) there were only about 200 comments. It’s now up to 440.
Comment 109 on that page is funny.
#85, Tee
I’ll have to read that in a minute; thank you for posting that link.
97. Beagle
Oh goodness, someone else thrown under the bus… but Wrath says everyone’s in the Soap Box thread discussing in there.
#104 CloudyDay
John Ankerberg is an apostate.
He cares about man’s opinion instead of what the Word actually says.
But that comes from Ankerbergs view on the Word of God, he supports the Alexandrian gnostic altered manuscripts that catholic bibles and all the modern bibles use.
Those manuscripts will spin doctor you good, they attack the deity of Christ, the Blood etc. Attacks most doctrines and casts doubt on them.
John Ankerberg views are as weird as his hair, he’s one stupid man.
And I do wonder why a person would have AnchorMountain (what his name means in swedish) as last name, that’s just weird.
#104 CloudDay
Ankerberg belives in theistic evolution which they sneakily call Progressive Creation. Total leftist tactic.
Here he says he is not an theistic evolutionist, but when reading the text it’s clear he is an theistic evolutionist:
http://johnankerberg.org/news/hunt_d-berean_call-11-06.htm
Charles is making enemies all over it seems.
http://moonshineonacloudyday.blogspot.com/2009/04/i-got-little-bonus-last-week.html
The Ace of spades thread is totally brutal, I cant stop laughing. It just needs Buddy G to get over there and link some his great pics of lizards being consumed by ants and dogs.
Has anyone else noticed that 1.0 has completely ignored the Miss California/Perez Hilton kerfluffle?
Telling.
100. Aussie Dave
“95. Sorry, no we don’t.”
i guess they lied to me then.
TheSneak, nah some of them do just maybe not Dave. I have had plenty of people from Australia tell me that they love my accent.
That goes both ways
) MG (from Sydney) wherever you are~ mwah! lol