Never missing an opportunity to blame all the world’s ills on Conservatives he doesn’t agree with, or those he actually has a personal grudge against, Little Green Footballs Blogger Charles Johnson stretches reality to blame Conservative Bloggers for Obama’s win.
In an opinion piece by columnist David Brooks, Brooks writes to confess that he was hoodwinked by the Obama ‘Hope & Change’ campaign into believing that Obama was a centrist. Although Brook’s himself, in the first paragraph of the piece, states that he missed the truth about Obama because of his own personal moderate-conservatism, then Senator Obama’s stances on “investments in education, energy innovation, and health care reform that expands coverage while reducing costs”, and in the second paragraph acknowledges a change in the Obama Administration’s attitude since winning the election based on “its own revolutionary fervor — caught up in the self-flattering belief that history has called upon it to solve all problems at once”, LGF’s Charles Johnson concludes that Brook’s hoodwinking was actually the result of Conservative Bloggers. (but only those who didn’t stick strictly to LGF’s message, of course)
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“One unfortunate factor that exacerbated the tendency to dismiss all critics of Barack Obama as kooks: the many right wing bloggers who did act like kooks, enthusiastically and relentlessly promoting stories like the birth certificate nonsense, the “Michelle Obama ‘whitey’ tape,” the “Obama is the love child of Malcolm X” rubbish, and countless other insane and/or stupid smears. The damage they did (and are still doing, in some cases) to the center-right blogosphere was enormous; when some of the loudest voices are screaming gibberish, they drown out everyone else and tar the whole group by association.”
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Wait, so it was “right wing bloggers who did act like kooks, enthusiastically and relentlessly promoting stories like…the “Michelle Obama ‘whitey’ tape”? Right wing bloggers?
Well that is confusing because on June 16, 2008 LGF itself lambasted the “Pro-Obama Media” for “sliming ‘Right-Wing’ Blogs” by attempting to “to divert the blame [for Bob Beckel's "whitey tape" statement"] onto conservative bloggers. Also, on that same day, LGF proudly criticized Beckel for having “the nerve to blame the “whitey tape” smear on right wing bloggers”, adding that “Wow. A new apex of hypocrisy has now been achieved.” (see Update 1) That wasn’t all however. On June 17, 2008, LGF assured its readers that Bob Beckel was a “democratic operative” who was blaming “Right-wing ‘crackers’ for his own Michelle Obama smearmongering.”
I agree Mr. Johnson, maybe a new apex of hypocrisy has now been achieved.
Tags: Barack Obama, Budget Crisis, Charles Johnson, David Brooks, Hypocrisy, LGF
ROFL ! Change!
On a more serious note–although it’s getting harder and harder to be serious when discussing LGF—CJ needs to get out of that chair and get a real job. He is confusing the blogosphere with the real world. The average independent, swing voter doesn’t know or care what “right-wing blogs” say. The MSM is all that ever reaches them.
LGF is irrelevant. Chuckie Johnson is a tool for the Democrats.
Fairly or not, the economic collapse is the reason that the GOP did so poorly in 2008. Republicans were perceived as big spenders who were out of touch with the concerns of the American public. In truth, they did spend too much and abondoned their conservative principles as well. The fact that Mc Cain was not a good candidate did not help matters either.
To say that right wing bloggers played a role in the defeat is ridiculous speculation. The MSM has that sort of power, but bloggers do not (at this time) anyhow.
It will be interesting to see how many cases of ‘buyers remorse’ appear in the next year as people see first hand the dangerous socialist policies which approved by voting for the demorats.
Wrath – great article
The damage they did (and are still doing, in some cases) to the center-right blogosphere was enormous; when some of the loudest voices are screaming gibberish, they drown out everyone else and tar the whole group by association.
First off outside of 1.0 in the “real world”, only kooks like Charles Johnson play illogical guilt by association games.
So Charles Johnson’s complete and utter kookyness is his and his alone, other “conservatives” whether left, right or center are not tarred by his lack of reason and understanding. Nor are we tarred by his willingness to play character assassination sense he never seems to have the evidence that draws the conclusions that he so desperately postulates.
Now along the Chuck Johnson line of reasoning, all white people are bad because some white person committed a crime. Or all “conservatives” including 1.0 are just racists because Pat Buchanan considers himself to be a conservative. You play this game to your own detriment, a bloggers reputation is all they have, so play at your own risk.
From that dirty thread:
# 9 MJ 3/04/2009 9:32:14 am PST
Frankly, screw David Brooks. He’s the “house Jew” in the Sulzberger Court.
He’d have more credibility when he takes on the Walter Duranty of today’s New York Times, Roger Cohen.
I wonder how long that comment would last if say this poster called POTUS a house something or other?
Now if we apply the Chuck Johnson line of reasoning we must conclude that is what kind of people LGF attracts, they must all be anti-Semites.
What a classy place.
Just wondering if chuck got threatened by Kos seeing how he’s in with obama,
fairness doctrine perhaps?
Seldom did a day pass without a link to ridicule the KOS website,usually the hat tip went to thanus or fickus or anus i forget now.All has changed since obama got the job though.
Perahps kos has had a word with chuck,it’s almost like there are in the same bed reading from the same page… etc
Charles “Darwinist Rage Boy” JOhnson is following the path of JOhn “Soros’ Funded” McCain.
Rush addressed the elitist “conservatives” who want to eliminate social conservatives from the party, and want to de-Reaganize the party.
Good luck on that, Darwinist Rage Boy!
Bloggers don;t have that kind of influence. Good lord, this guys ego is gigantic, if it explodes it will create ‘cyber holocaust’ of orts. LOL!!!
Dear Charles
Please, please…you don’t have that kind of influence. Go ride your bicycle or post a picture of a fence, relax, take it easy.
This guys is fast becoming a cyber/republican version of David Moore. Now republicans have their own David Moore. LOL!!!
The Republican Party got hammered in the last election because they were indistinguishable from the Democratic Party on many issues, particularly SPENDING. This is what happens when a political party has no bedrock principles. Of course, over at 1.0, the answer, then, is to become MORE like the Democrats. Brilliant. I can see why CJ has such a high speed day job. Or Not.
Since morphing into somethimg right out of 1984 (complete with informers), LGF IS The Daily Kos
K. he’s trying his best to catch up with Kos.
(hattip BuddyG
Charles,
This forum is always open for you to defend yourself, if you believe anything I said was wrong, or mischaracterized, etc.
I welcome the challenge.
Victrola– What you said!
Jamuka— I know we’re in a recession, but isn’t there someone out there who can give CJ a real job? The man needs to back away from that screen. As you so eloquently put it, disaster looms:
“Good lord, this guys ego is gigantic, if it explodes it will create a ‘cyber holocaust’ of orts.”
Wrath
I would pay money to see that.
Of course I don’t believe Charles is big enough to exist his fake world.
He can’t argue unless the deck is fully stacked in his favor and he must not look foolish at all costs, to him being foolish would be simply losing an argument.
That’s how those Hollyweird types roll.
“Conservative bloggers” are responsible? Please. Republicans lost because of circumstances: an unpopular war and a tanking economy. However simplistic, the masses perceive the party in charge as responsible for all the country’s ills and will therefore vote for change. Nothing more sophisticated than that. The stars of happenstance were simply aligned for a Democrat takeover, be it by Obama or Hillary.
Johnson’s absurd, whiny assertions demonstrate to me why he should never be taken seriously as any kind of political pundit. He should limit his analysis to doctored photos.
I’m left wondering: What was it that was supposed to qualify CJ as a conservative, again?
Bar,
I doubt he would comment here either, although we know he does read us.
Either way however, I want him to know that on our blog, one always has the opportunity to “defend” themselves against any statements made about them.
I do agree however that if Mr. Johnson were to respond, he would instead choose to do so on his site. That way he wouldn’t be questioned, could make any false statements he would like, and no matter what was said about us the Blogmocracy wouldn’t be able to defend itself.
Funkateer, and he should only have access to doctored photo talk if he would actually give CREDIT to the ones that find the fauxtography, instead of claiming “it was all him, him, himmmmmmmmm~!”
/too sharmuta like? lol
Wrath
And that is what makes your invite all the better.
For many decades now the MSM has smeared conservatives by associating them with every kook on the “right,” while ignoring all the nuts on the left. There is nothing new about this and it’s not going to change.
All you can do is denounce and utterly reject those who are clearly outside the pale, point out the double standards and hypocrisy of the media, and then move on.
The notion that you can solve the problem by relentless ideological purges of conservatives is not only ludicrous, but evidence of megalomania.
You simply cannot control what millions of people say and do.
Even if you could wave a magical wand to assure that no one remotely associated with the “right” ever said or did anything offensive or dumb, it wouldn’t matter. We live in a world in which Democrats can compare John McCain to George Wallace without raising an eyebrow. If there are no real sins, however tiny or questionable, the Left will simply invent them.
LGF presents an excellent example of what NOT to do.
Criticism, discussion, arguments within the conservative movement are fine. If (and only if) they stick to principles and strategy, they can be very useful.
But when you are expending far more energy attacking other conservatives, when you are accepting MSM memes as you do so, and when you use hateful smear tactics, the “arguments” are counter-productive. And that’s putting it very, very kindly.
oh right i have seen him try to debate his own posters and every time he gets shot down in flames and ends up banning them.
its his way or the fag gay.
oooh er matron.
What does LGF stand for anyway?…I thought I knew…but of course I was wrong….They are not anti-jihad …they are not for American values as we know them…so…what do they stand for?
Mr. Johnson chuck johnsons conservatives.
Storagemanager, and Song:
It would be interesting to do a side-by-side comparison of LGF posts, themes, statements, and Kos/Huffpo posts, themes, statements.
Let the facts speak for themselves.
Funketeer
Johnson has always been a liberal. His blog was considered conservative because after 9/11 he supported Bush in the War on Terror, became critical of Islamists, and helped induce the fall of uber-liberal Dan Rather. That stand attracted conservatives to his site in overwhelming numbers because he was advocating the same thing most conservatives espouse.
It wasn’t until Charles began to comment that we began to see him as he has always been. And so his blog slowly turned into a blog that is closer to his true ideals. He has consistently chased away conservatives and continues to do so with stories like this and attracts a liberal base. And that is where his blog stands today; just another whiny liberal blog.
He hates a lot of liberals too…it just a hater blog it is that simple…hate and gossip.
Song,
That would be “just another FLIP FLOPPING whiny liberal blog.”
The flip-flops are pretty amazing. (The subject of this post being a classic example.)
I think that, for all the lip-service he pays to reason and logic, CJ is mostly driven by emotion and ego.
Just as one example: there is no good REASON to account for Robert Spencer one day being a brilliant demi-god and the next day being a diabolic fiend. This is not a matter of reasoned disagreement. This is hysteria.
I wonder how Song got those cute green quotation marks. We need an instruction sheet!
Anastasia,
I think an instruction sheet would be nice.
Anastasia, I’m suuuure he can find a job at the local McDonalds…LOL!
BTW, Wilders actually met up with Spencer and Geller. In your face Charles! Now I’m sure you’ll say something bad about Wilders or have you already done so?
1.0 is now more or less an advertisment site for Kindle.
Arwin (and the rest of the Admins) are working on providing the citizens with more gadgets, along with this new theme.
One of these gadgets would be a post preview screen, and html tags or buttons.
This should resolve the “quotation marks” and “instructions” issue.
Don’t forget however: This is your blog too. If you see things on other blogs, or have ideas as to ways to improve The Blogmocracy…LET US KNOW in the Voting Booth (now with contact e-mail address)
I use the blockquote tag
Anastasia, Hagar
http://www.w3schools.com/tags/tag_blockquote.asp
the word “cite” will work in place of “blockquote.”
No comment on the deflated football? heh!
I was laughing and thinking where the heck did you find a picture like that?
Song, Show off !
Wrath— I noticed the football! LOL !
Priceless!
Bar—Thanks for the link. (Let’s hope it’s in English!)
The football deflates while the ego inflates.
Storage, you left out the recipes, and the boring photos and music videos. It’s a blog for them, too!
Seriously, Charles, and the lizards, worry too damned much about other people think, and whether the rest of the world approves of them or not.
Oh, it’s also a blog for pointless quotes from Harlan Ellison, and Plan 9 from Outer Space.
Jamuka— LGF has not demonized Wilders as much as Robert Spencer, but that’s not saying a lot, I fear.
CJ now likes to call Wilders “that book banner,” in order to defuse any sympathy others may have for Wilders in his defense of free speech. In the past, Wilders has made the point that if European laws about “hate speech” were FAIRLY applied, the Koran itself should be banned. Of course, Wilders was saying that back when he was a hero at LGF, so this is nothing that suddenly changed.
What changed, as far as I can tell, is that Wilders made a statement that he would not consider cooperating with Vlaams Belang in the EU parliament entirely impossible at some future date, provided that he was convinced that they were sincere in their rejection of race-based nationalism.
Given that CJ is absolutely obsessed with Vlaams Belang, that statement was unacceptable.
On a thread discussing this, CJ said he was e-mailing Wilders about it. I also believe (although I am not sure of my memory) that CJ attempted to “warn” Wilders about Spencer and Geller, i.e., to convince him that they were nazi-fascist-racist Bad Guys that he should avoid.
To the best of my knowledge, Wilders never responded to CJ. In any case, he certainly isn’t dancing to CJ’s tune. That makes him Bad.
If that story sounds idiotic, it’s because it IS!
“Seriously, Charles, and the lizards, worry too damned much about other people think, and whether the rest of the world approves of them or not.”
Excellent point, Yaza.
{Anastasia!}
I suspect the Wilders and Spencer hate are inspired by medaura—and the fact that neither one of them dances to Charles’ tune.
I think Charles really thought he could become the head of a new Conservative movement, without all that awful God stuff, and those dreadful social conservatives.
There will beNO dissent, or reasonable arguments allowed, or else we ding you down boy.
NO
Anastasia: “CJ said he was e-mailing Wilders about it….To the best of my knowledge, Wilders never responded to CJ.”
WTF standing does Charles Johnson have that he should expect to be able to spout off personal communications to a foreign dignitary and hope to elicit a personal response? It’s that kind of self-appointed self-importance that galls me about people like CJ, who apparently believe that simply because he runs his own internet site it embues him with some elite status such that he can presume to interact personally with anyone he chooses, regardless of their status. “I’m Charles Johnson, and I host a website which links to a bunch of other websites. Therefore, important people should be heeding my views on matters.”
Please — you’re a web designer, not a news organization or foreign ambassador.
Funkateer
The same goes with Robert Spencer. He is a internationally known anti-jihad speaker writer and blogger who day in and out fills his blog with original content. Mr. Johnson is a cut and paste maven with very little original content to be found at his site with the exception of ware hawking. And yet he finds himself of such relevance that he can challenge those that are in another league altogether.
S&D Man: Absolutely concur. Very rarely (if ever) have I seen any real original, thought-provoking, insightful analysis offered by CH on his site on ANY topic. It’s merely a link hub to others with whom he has ideological/philosophical sympathies. Which is fine, in and of itself. And I’m not going to say there aren’t any views on which Johnson and I would agree (because I’m sure there are). But I certainly don’t attribute to him any special analytical abilities which warrants the type of status which CJ himself (based on his behavior) apparently believes he deserves.
Perhaps it’s the innate power to ban “dissenters” from his site which embues him with that self-importance.
First of all, CJ isn’t a conservative, so any hand-wringing he does over this imagined blame is irrelevant, a word often associated with his blog.
I am a conservative, and I blasted B-HO, and the entire JackAss party, during the campaign.
I blasted McCain in the primary, but since I could not fully support him after he got the nomination, I get my yap shut, didn’t criticize him, and voted against B-HO.
When you look at the vote totals in the election, B-HO only got about four million more votes than John Effing Kerry did in ‘04, but Mc got about eight million fewer than W did in ‘04.
What happened, more than anything else is, conservatives didn’t, or just couldn’t, vote.
They had no candiate!
I mean, for Heaven’s sake, Dallas County, where I reside, for the first time in modern history, went blue.
Aside from the idiocy emanating from 1.0, the various reasons for the election result are many, but mostly attributable to the fact that conservatives weren’t motivated.
I think that by 2012, the nation will be so very eager for change, that if the conservatives can select a candiate “who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man.”
The GOP also must make the primaries closed, not open, so that liberals can’t contaminate our primary results.
mo2liberals
I suspect the true intent of Charles is to besmirch the religious conservatives as kooks with the ID debate, the Glenn Beck thing about a very likely social upheaval, the loss of the election, Jindal and host of other stories and issues he uses to denigrate the believers.
He is attempting to lump conservatives and the religious right in one big kook pot.
To me he smacks of evil. And to think he calls me insane and a freak.
Oops, that’s no2liberals and not mo2liberals. Although mo to liberals works on a certain alla level.
Henh, as much guano as I give Ol Moh, I certainly don’t want to incorporate his label with mine.
And so any that see this will know, you spelled it correctly, with no caps, but there is a preferred abbreviation, n2l.
And please, don’t cal me N2L, I’m not just about Fnet = m * a.
As for CJ, his scatology is definitely showing.
The bulwark of modern western society, has always been Judao-Christian values.
For him to take such a militant stance against them, puts his insecurities on display, and is an indication of how lost he is, as a person.
aladamit, I just realized I’ve been posting as song_and_and_man
I guess no one else noticed so it’s all good.
_and_and if that is the worst thing that happens today, you are in great shape.
Song and and and and and man,
Noticed what?
Some has a couple sock puppets eh?
Someone! Ackk!
lol
The Cards are playing tonight?
No, check the post again, read this part: “One unfortunate factor that exacerbated the tendency to dismiss all critics of Barack Obama as kooks: the many right wing bloggers who did act like kooks, enthusiastically and relentlessly promoting stories like the birth certificate nonsense, the “Michelle Obama ‘whitey’ tape,” the “Obama is the love child of Malcolm X” rubbish, and countless other insane and/or stupid smears. The damage they did (and are still doing, in some cases) to the center-right blogosphere was enormous; when some of the loudest voices are screaming gibberish, they drown out everyone else and tar the whole group by association.”
Every last bit of that was aimed at Pamela/Atlas. All of it. He’s attacking her, just in a passive-aggressive manner. She’s the one he posted on myriad times regarding the birth certificate issue, she’s the one he ALWAYS links about the “love child of Malcolm X” business, the one he refers to the most as a “kook”, etc.
He’s just attacking Atlas Shrugs without doing so openly, and has gotten people riled up accordingly. Make no mistake though, this is another blow in the internecine blog wars. Seriously.
I thought Teh One was the love child of some other commie bastard in Hawaii?
Chucky is a closet Obamanation supporter. I also might add that he’s STILL on this evolution v. creationism binge. Obsession is not a healthy thing.
I was told by LOTS of people that unless I blindly moved to the left and voted for Pro Gun Control and Weak On Illegal Immigration McCain, that I was personally electing Obama.
ACTUAL conservatives are browbeaten into voting blindly for the RNC and are ripped apart for being ‘narrowminded’ when we ask the RNC to maybe turn to the right every now and then.
In the end, the RNC lost because they ran a moderate old white guy against a radical liberal young guy. The RNC lost because they moved to the left. Those on the right were asked to not be a part of it….. so, sorry Charles… you can’t blame this on Conservatives.
you kicked us out.
This was an excellent blog entry by Wrath.
I agree with most of the comments made by people above, too.
Maybe I just don’t surf as many blogs as often as Johnson does, but out of the list of things he mentioned (”Michelle Obama ‘whitey’ tape,” the “Obama is the love child of Malcolm X” rubbish”) I had only heard a little bit about the birth certificate rumor.
I had not even heard of the “whitey” tape or the “Malcom X” claim before reading this post today.
Maybe this points to what some of you here have said before, that Johnson spends waaaay too much time on the blogs, needs to unplug, and go outside once in a while.
I’m dismayed and disgusted that Johnson’s solution for GOP success is to kick all true conservatives out of the Republican Party.
Making the Republican Party a mirror of the Democrat Party is not the answer.
LanceKates
I think elections also run in cycles and with all the anti-Bush MSM BS and then add to that the first half-white POTUS.
No freaking way us conservatives could win this last election, we made this country safe after 9/11 and like LGF the country saw our usefulness was very limited.
LOVE the deflated football.
According to the recent wikio political blog poll, he’s now #251. I guess its not longer a political blog–its more of a techno-promotional, pseudo-science anti-religion blog. Even JammiewearingFool, the uber-blog pimp beat him out by miles.
Charles Johnson is a fool. President Government won because the MSM put him there; celebrities and their slobbering love-fest; and he woke up the ’stupid vote’ and the ‘ipod people’.
Hey Charles, isn’t there a photo of a bolt or a shoelace you need post before you tuck yourself into bed with your Kindle?
Cloudy–you hadn’t heard of the Malcolm X thing because it’s something only Johnson hammers on and he always links to this from Comedy Central about Atlas Shrugs–who for the record denies the claim. She says she didn’t say it, he insists she did, hence his continuing to rail against her. That’s his entire post, railing against her passive-aggressively. Honestly. Not sure about the “whitey” tape. Probably another of his enemies.
Oh, and Wrath, I loved the deflated football;)
If it comes down to he said/she said, I’ll go with Pamela before Charles.
I like the flat football too.
HAHA! The flat football. Yaza, I’m positive that’s why he posted that. Positive. She had just posted that he made The Urban Dictionary and then someone (and it SERIOUSLY wasn’t me) put Pamela in the Urban Dictionary. The war rages on as always.
Pamela’s view.
I agree about the unanswered questions part. And I don’t think it’s only “kooks” that want those answers.
Lex, what is the Pamela entry under? Chuck Johnson is easy enough to find, but Pamela Geller and AtlasShrugs both come up with no entries.
Bar said: “I thought Teh One was the love child of some other commie bastard in Hawaii?”
Are you referring to Frank Marshall Davis, aka “Frank the Poet”?
Lex, et al.
I knew immediately that 1.0 intended to insult Spencer, and Atlas with this post as well. Like many posts on 1.0 these days, its all just part of a personal grudge. I alluded to this in the actual 1st paragraph above.
However, I am not wrong with the title as they themselves are “conservative bloggers”, and 1.0 is blaming them (as well as other “conservative bloggers” who supposedly did the same thing) for Obama’s win.
Someone left it in a comment on my site so I added it to a post….it followed a post on Atlas Shrugs titled “It’s Official” and the post just said, “He’s a joke” which linked to the Charles Urban Dict. page. Just a sec….OK, it’s here and in the comments it was Rev. Jim Sutter who said he had it in for review and then in another comment that it had been accepted. It’s as “Pam-Geller”. Huh, I don’t see it in the list of “P”s, just in the link that was left at my site.
Yeah, like I said, she denies the Malcolm X thing and who knows now what she said originally, but Comedy Central got it from something she had said on her site and Charles promtly ran with it and is still running, actually. That’s why I put him in the window like he’s hiding from my “Pamzilla” pshop….LOL.
TheOsprey
Yes, I couldn’t recall the name, but that rumor was floating around a little.
hmmm…I see that my comment never appeared. I hope that it didn’t go into the memory hole! It was a good one.
Lex, etc.
I knew immediately that 1.0 intended to insult Spencer, and Atlas with this post as well. Like many posts on 1.0 these days, its all just part of a personal grudge. I alluded to this in the actual 1st paragraph above.
However, I am not wrong with the title as they themselves are “conservative bloggers”, and 1.0 is blaming them (as well as other “conservative bloggers” who supposedly did the same thing) for Obama’s win.
ChenZhen,
We are trying to add avatars and other fun things people voted for. Thus, we are experiencing technical difficulties. My post lost as well. That is why I re-posted it here at the bottom.
Bar,
Just got around to reading your response on “instructions”. Thanks for the link.:)
Lex— I think you’re onto something with your theory of this post mainly being a passive-aggressive attack on Pamela. The feud with Geller and Spencer has become a fanatical obsession with him.
If you read David Brooks’ column, which SUPPOSEDLY was the inspiration for the post, you will notice that there is NO mention of blogs in it at all. Brooks confines his snark to the “Rush Limbaugh brigades.” A competent mind might therefore use the column for an attack on Rush or on talk radio.
A pathologically fixated mind, OTOH, will find a “reason” to attack his enemies in a meatloaf recipe.
The irony of CJ’s miraculous change of tune about “right-wing bloggers”—shown in Wrath’s links— is nevertheless hilarious.
As I’ve said before, I suspect the Pamela/Spencer hate comes from meduara and MPH. Charles is acting as their megaphone.
I think he’s also upset nobody wants to make him head of the Republican party.
I also cant get over the irony of 1.0 quoting or even using anything from Comedy Central as some kind of real fact.
1.0 or Comedy Central, the only difference being Comedy Central does their comedy on purpose.
Bar
There must not have been a wiki page on it. ;0
Yaza— Medaura (or “Medusa” as ploome has brilliantly renamed her!)is a weird creature. She RARELY comments at LGF, but then will suddenly fly in on her broom to stir things up. MPH (obsequious little hubby) often crawls in right behind her to provide an echo.
The campaign against Spencer
is her big project, but I also remember her showing up on threads to trash mama winger and other exiles, linking to any comments they made on other blogs, trying to whip up hatred against them.
Wrath-
I thought that maybe it was because I included a few too many links… Oh well.
Anyway, in short, I found CJ’s whining about associations pretty humorous. He’s got no one to blame but himself. Pam is one thing; a once-featured and contributor that is now outcast. Quite another is the enigmatic and still-respected Zombie, who went on a crazy and desperate propaganda blitz during the last days of the campaign, and was each and every time featured on LGF’s front page. The kicker?…Zombie admitted it was kooky.
Tarred? Gimme a break.
and
LMAO
BTW- These guys overestimate their influence, though. After all, there was plenty of mainstream coverage of Wright and Ayers during the campaign. The simple explanation is that the American people simply gave Obama the benefit of the doubt. That’s pretty much it.
Another thing, I am kinda surprised that no one mentioned the PUMAs over in the LGF thread. Most of the loudest and most consistent drum beating of the really crazy stuff came from the disgruntled Clinton supporters, after all. Many of dummy righty blogs picked it up and ran with a lot of it, which kept it going much longer than it should have.
Chen— Yes, the PUMAs were BIG over there during the election. Sharmuta, for one, was obsessed with them.
After the election, the very mention of them disappeared, as if they had never existed—as if they had never fooled anyone!
BTW, I would dispute your contention that there was plenty of coverage of Wright and Ayers, especially of the former. The MSM was more or less forced to face the GD America clips, but it treated those as if they were what Obama claimed, i.e., isolated, injudicious remarks.
What the MSM did NOT do was examine the Black Liberation Theology that was openly embraced and repeatedly preached by Wright, the works of his mentor James Cone, the extreme racism, the anti-semitism. the denial of Christ’s Jewishness, the doctrine that Jesus was a Palestinian baby oppressed by Jews, etc. etc. This was ignored.
But your main point is spot on: “These guys overestimate their influence.” As I say, the MSM didn’t publicize negative information that was readily accessible to them. Why would any new tidbits matter?
Wrath–your post is really quite excellent, and I must apologize for having first read it while still down with this stupid cold I’m not getting over. But many excellent points, including the one I had mentioned. I was sort of on auto-pilot while I was sick (still am to some degree….ugh….my singing voice is in the toilet), my apologies again. The hypocrisy is pretty astounding across the board on this subject. Frankly, there are far too many online folks trying to do just what Charles is attempting with this one. Everyone wants someone to blame, Johnson just used the opportunity to throw a few jabs at his own enemies. In most cases when he does this though, he was at one point calling for the same things, just like he reversed his calls for Obama’s birth certificate into mockery of Pamela’s typoed “nirth” certificate.
Wrath, definitely not wrong on the post name. One thing I think is interesting here is how far one judges at this point the MSN to range as Anastasia just brought up. I have begun to consider the Hannity Enterprise (radio, books, tv show) to be widespread enough nowadays to be frankly part of the MSM. He claims otherwise on his radio show, claiming that he’s giving info not found on the MSM, meanwhile less and less people get news from the networks/old newspapers and more from radio shows and the web along with the cable news channels. So what does the realm include now, the realm of the MSM? Obviously not us, certainly not Johnson either, but what exactly? (And I am just conjecturing here, not applying this to Wrath’s original assessment at all).
Anastasia–speaking of Medaura bringing up comments from other blogs and such, isn’t it utterly amazing on 1.0 just how dextrous the high ranking lizards are at finding anything and everything you’ve EVER said online? When I finally got in it with The Sharmuta Triangle that effing little sharmuta somehow dragged out everything I’d ever said on LGFWatch and a few other sites, and I was basically a stranger at LGF. I NEVER commented. I seriously had about 10 comments to my name in a little over 2 years. I was nobody to her essentially, but her and Highrise and whoever the third one was were practically giving out my social security number! WTF???
OK, I’m dying to try this video comment option. What is this??
Awww, the video didn’t come up in my comment! Dammit!
Anyway, Yaza, was Medaura around when the fight broke out? I honestly found out about her from this site, I had barely noticed her before (I was never a very good LGFWatcher, was I).
These are what I remember starting it all, Charles posting this:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=27653_When_Friends_Attack
due to this post of Pamela’s:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2007/10/lgf-and-cair.html
all over the details of the Brussels Summit, the Vlaams Belang and Sweden Dem. issue Charles was so worked up over that everyone ended up all worked up over. I mean, I know a lot of that happened in private, in emails and such, especially since Charles later said that Pamela had apologized….and then promptly started fighting with her again. Still, if it was Medaura I’d have to severely amend my own blog…LOL.
Wait, according to Pamela’s post I linked it started with a post by Charles here:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=27592_Organizing_to_Resist_the_Islamization_of_Europe
Does anyone else feel like they’re watching a tennis match? This was all so freakin’ silly when you get right down to it…..that was the now infamous post where Charles commented on the Brussels Summit thus:
“It’s important to note that not all the people who are hitching a ride on the anti-Islamization movement are doing it for honorable reasons. There are serious issues around the participation of Filip Dewinter (of the ultra-nationalist Vlaams Belang party, successor to Vlaams Blok)…..”
I’m looking now for Medaura in the comments from that post….I may need to post on this one again myself….
Seems 1.0 now has actual links to buy items from Amazon.
Oddly enough (not!) they are the items that 1.0 has been bragging about in actual threads.
Lex, I have no idea about the video comment thingie. It came with the theme.
I think the Spencer obsession came with medusa & company. That and the fact that Killgore disagreed with him.
Anastasia, medusa (good call, Ploome!) whipped up hatred against Mamawinger, and some of the other LGF posters, because they were Christians.
My own theory about her is that she’s an Islamic mole, a KLA supporter, and she knows damn well what she’s doing when she pops up. She hates Spencer because he dared criticize Islamic Albania. MPH is her hubby/sock puppet.
Yes, as I recall, she was around, and she was one of the ones who started leading the pack against Spencer.
Here’s where the fit hits the shan (Hey, I’ve linked to this before); check out the comments, as well as the article: http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/022114.php
Bayonet, think Charles is getting a kick back from Amazon?
Lex wrote: “Anastasia–speaking of Medaura bringing up comments from other blogs and such, isn’t it utterly amazing on 1.0 just how dextrous the high ranking lizards are at finding anything and everything you’ve EVER said online? When I finally got in it with The Sharmuta Triangle that effing little sharmuta somehow dragged out everything I’d ever said on LGFWatch and a few other sites, and I was basically a stranger at LGF. I NEVER commented. I seriously had about 10 comments to my name in a little over 2 years. I was nobody to her essentially, but her and Highrise and whoever the third one was were practically giving out my social security number! WTF???”
All…you need to investigate a “social networking tool” called “Peek You”. Medaura was bragging about her involvement with this outfit on a recent LGF thread. I think her husband is a programmer for this outfit. This may be the tool they are using to vacuum up people’s posts.
Thanks ‘Lex, Agent of Change’ and Arwyn for the background info about the MalcomX stuff.
If you don’t follow all these blogs closely (and I do not, and I try to never, ever visit LGF1), it’s easy to get confused and not understand what all these cross-blog feuds are about, or what the stories are about.
Lex said:
Even before I was banned there, I found that habit of many “Lizards” creepy and unsettling.
That sort of behavior is also one reason why I don’t use the same screen name here that I used to use at LGF1.
I’m glad we have avatars again, though I miss my little umbrella.
(I’m the same poster as “RainyDay” or “Rainy Day Weather” – I was having problems with posts under my “Rainy Day” screen name not showing up, so I started using “CloudyDay”)
Well, yeah, I found it downright unsettling personally. It’s just weird when Sharmuta starts posting your comments from another blog. It feels like they hacked your email. But worse, it feels like they really cared enough to scour the web for anything by you, that they took that much time out of their lives for an LGF thread……then again, I always say that the scariest comment I ever read at LGF was , “I’ll be back in 15 minutes”.
CloudyDay
And yet we are the stalker blog!
Although its seems that 1.0 is filled with nothing but stalkers for their dear leader.