Charles is really exposing his true colours in this post. He is now attacking Pam Geller and Robert Spencer for daring to show a little compassion and common decency to a Muslim girl murdered by her father and brother. Charles’ response, in his own words:
Like others who are clueless about the religion of peace, Charles ignorantly insists the intent of Pam and Robert is for selfish gain. It is not.
In Islam, a woman who supposedly shames her family not only has her life taken, but also her memory. Every attempt is made to erase her existence, thus, the shame. That includes an unmarked grave.
What Pam and Robert have attempted is to sustain Aqsa Parvez’s memory with a simple headstone that reads, “Beloved, Remembered, Free.” It isn’t political, it isn’t anti-Islam, and it doesn’t serve to personally benefit either Pam or Robert.
It is just a reminder that Aqsa Parvez’s life did matter, even if her family, by virtue of their inhumane and cold ideology, doesn’t agree. It is also a gesture to remind ourselves that we will not devalue any life, and that we fight to defend all innocent life.
Yet, according to Charles, a young girl abused and murdered, both in life and in death, is none of our business. That we are “disgusting” for caring. It is only the prerogative of the family that committed this horrendous crime that matters. Ironically, that very same mentality – the mentality that certain individuals, usually women, are the sole property of male family members – is what fuels human rights abuses throughout the world.
Charles, what is truly vile is your cavalier attitude towards this murdered young girl. You want to assist her family in erasing her memory. In some ways, that makes you culpable in the ‘honour killing’ of Aqsa Parvez. That is absolutely disgusting.
(cross-posted at Avid Editor’s Insights)
Tags: Charles Johnson, lgfsucks, pam geller, Robert Spencer
I expect LGF2 will gain a few more members because of that thread. Several were banned for questioning Charles, including, I’m sure, ‘Marc L.’
[...] (cross-posted at LGF2) [...]
CJ has very obviously flipped. But who knows, maybe if there’s another 9/11 type attack he’ll flip back. And then after some more time goes by he’ll flip yet again?
Whatever.
221 Charles
2/21/09 10:45:06 pm reply quote 0downupreport
re: #220 monumentlizard
Piss off.
good one there chas,
There are a few disgruntled LGFers posting at the JihadWatch article linked above. I’ve invited them to join us here.
he always attacks when somebody else is getting the lime light.
i think he is riddled with jelousy after getting some fame and then no more.
so he trys to spoil like a kid does.
Welcome disgruntled LGFers posters. Let us know your feelings on honor killings.
And pretentious blog admins.
I don’t buy into CJ’s argument. I mean, I don’t think this would be the first time that someone unrelated to the deceased has raised money to memorialize them. But I do question the motives behind this.
Show some support to Robert:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/024961.php
And to Pam:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2009/02/calling-me-antimuslim-maniac-over-the-bones-of-aqsa-parvez-is-the-bitterest-irony-of-all.html
For both their generosity and persistence in honouring Aqsa Parvez’s memory.
Thank you.
He is finished.
ChenZhen – can I ask why you question the motive?
If the planned headstone had anything anti-Islamic, or even a reference to either Pam or Robert’s sites, I might agree. But simply having the girl’s name and the words “Beloved, Remembered, Free” seems of little significance as far as any type of an agenda. However, it does invalidate the continuing ‘honour killing’ of Aqsa Parvez. (The purpose of an “honour killing” in islam is to remove the perceived shame. That includes erasing all memory of the victim.)
The fact the family has rejected the gesture, and that people like Charles decided to cash in on what little unintended publicity it created, only inflamed & publicized both sides even more.
A simple headstone in the beginning, and none of us would be here discussing it.
Unbelievable. I vote Charles for idiotarian the year, and his brown-nosing, ass-kissing, and boot licking army of losers led by sharmuta (who seriously needs to get some kind of a life) and Kilgore Guppy as co-winners of the “award”.
Thank you Pam Geller & Robert Spencer for making me aware of Aqsa Parvez.
May God bless Aqsa Parvez in heaven.
Buddy G—– Amen.
ChenZhen—– I like to speculate on people’s motives as much as anyone, but I (often!) need to remind myself that I’m not really a mind-reader.
In any case, the ACT of raising money and trying to do something to memorialize this girl is a good one.
DJM-
The absense of evidence of an agenda doesn’t mean that no agenda exists.
In life, I’ve got a hard time believing that Pamela would have given this gal the time of day. Having read enough of her site, its more likely that she’d have patted her down for a bomb belt. But now, in death, we see some supposed act of compassion? I’m sorry, but it looks like she’s using this gal’s death to move the ball in her self-described culture war, and attempting to make a statement.
Nathan——-CJ was really, really cranky on that Glenn Beck thread. He had a few of those “p*** off” dismissals. Couldn’t even muster the “You are no longer welcome to post on my site.” Reeeeeeeeaaaal cranky.
Is there a full moon?
ChenZhen—-People’s motives are usually MIXED.
One thing is certain, by concentrating on Geller’s motives——which is to say on Geller, rather than on Aqsa——-wouldn’t we be doing the very thing that you decry, i.e., making it “all about Geller?”
ChenZhen—— You said: “I’m sorry, but it looks like she’s using this gal’s death to move the ball in her self-described culture war, and attempting to make a statement.”
What statement do you think she is trying to make about this victim of honor-killing?
Do you not think it warrants a statement?
ChenZhen, with all due respect, I think you are wrong.
Hating *islam* does not equate to hating *muslims*. I think Pam understands (please note I do not speak for her) that not all muslims are bad people. And not all people who are called ‘muslim’ embrace islam. It is the *ideology* that people like myself despise. And it is those who knowingly and willfully embrace, promote, and uphold that vile *ideology* who are detested.
And unfortunately, it is innocent people like Aqsa who become victims of that ideology. If I recall correctly, she was murdered for attempting to pursue Western values over that ideology.
I seriously doubt Pam has any animosity to the victims of islam, even if they themselves are muslim. It is just sometimes cumbersome to constantly, with each and every post to make that distinction.
Islamophobia is not a hatred of muslims, but rather a dislike of those who try to impose the ideology of islam.
You also said: “But now, in death, we see some supposed act of compassion?”
How else would any of us have known of Aqsa’s existence but for her untimely and undeserved death? She never had a chance to have her own life.
If protecting her memory can perhaps, pressure other islamic communities to prevent such a tragedy from happening again, why shouldn’t we? Or do you suggest we just leave it alone, leave her to her unmarked grave, allow her to disappear forever as though she never mattered & never existed, and leave other girls to the same fate?
No. If a simple headstone can shed light on the shame of “honour killings” it’s the very least we, as civilized humans, can do for Aqsa, and for others like her.
116 Charles 2/20/09 5:31:59 pm reply quote
re: #113 researchok
You are right. Whether one agrees with Geller’s politics or ideology or not, this particular effort is worthy.
Find a way, make it work.
Wow, Straight to strawman is what I call that. Yes I would object if the daughter already had a headstone and it read: “praise be to Allah” and someone wanted that replaced because they don’t agree. It became everyone’s business when the father choose to murdered his daughter which is against the law and not just family business.
Neither Robert or Pam are looking for publicity for themselves but to get publicity for honour killings.
1.0 gets creepier day by day. It’s only a matter of time when they will begin to back the Palestinians in their struggle for justice.
I think Chuckles anti-conservative mania is accelerating, but it may end up costing him even more traffic. Yesterday was a case in point. He did a lot of bannings, many of long term lizards such as “Globular Clusters” and “Peter Verkooijen” (sp?) in a thread about a Glen Beck program (who Charles is now attacking) that touched on possible economic collapse and civil unrest in the USA. Many lizards, led by Iron Fist, seemed to disagree with Charles, who is trying to characterize people who store food and ammo as nutballs. So he shut down the thread saying “I don’t like the way this is going.” LOL.
He also seems to be floating a trial balloon supporting Global Warming as his new crusade as he has had two threads in the past two days about an article by George Will debunking global warming that according to Charles had incorrect information or “quote mining”, what ever that is.
The meltdown is getting more and more entertaining, and tragic, and as I still have an account over there under another name I’ve got a ringside seat.
[...] Over at LGF 2: [...]
ChenZhen: “The absense of evidence of an agenda doesn’t mean that no agenda exists.”
You are starting to sound like Charles.
I made the mistake of wading through the LGF sewer to see what the whole thread had to say and it has made me very cranky. I need some LGF mental floss.
I decided to read a bit of the 1.0 thread.
The 1.0 Blogtator
I don’t know much about Canadian law, but here in America if parents abuse their children they can lose custody of them. Now this girl was murdered by her family, which in my mind is the ultimate abuse, and at that point all rights to the victim of the family should have been abolished and expunged. I don’t know if one can transfer custody of a corpse, but it might have been looked into. Or maybe the state should have marked the grave after confiscating custody from the family of murderers.
I do see the point of the 1.0 Blogtator, but he needs to look at this angle as well, which, apparently he hasn’t. Of if he has he is ignoring it.
song_and_dance_man……. It’s an eco chamber over there, I still post there one in a while and have been there for about 6 years. I’m not using my same name here yet but I think I will be soon. You may remember me I know Savage will. The Glenn Beck thread was what finally made me realize I don’t want to be a part of 1.0 anymore.. So make this site faster
I agree with you about the child abuse argument I think they lost all their rights to her body!
One of the great things about this blogmocracy, is it’s the citizens that makes this place.
Without citizens blogmocracies don’t exist.
NICETOBERIGHT
I anxiously await the revelation of yourself.
Not everyone who posts here uses their Blogtatorship 1.0 nics, and I wish they would with the exception of those still with seats back at the old crib.
I’m using the same nic I had over at LGF. I have never tried to login over there to see if the lizard king has banned me since I started posting here. I wouldn’t give him the pleasure.
ChenZhen, I don’t know you from Adam (though it seems you have a lefty blog, which tells me something), and I’m puzzled. In your latest blog entry on your own blog, you do not question the motives of those who championed the “Obama is the ape in question” narrative. You just disputed the narrative itself (rather well, I’d add). What, then, are the circumstances under which you start ruminating and spouting off concerning motives?
Personally, I’m just about as anti-Islam as one can get. But I’ll tell you this: if I did what Geller did, here would be my “motives.” I’d see a girl who tried to get away from the death cult that she grew up in and was killed for it. I would feel a special sympathy for someone like that, beyond the normal sympathy for a teenager murdered by her family. I’d also know that “honor killings” are a tool that Islam uses to maintain control as it infiltrates Western countries and spreads jihad. Thus, I would be motivated to lessen the effectiveness of this tool. Finally, there is a responsibility to do charitable deeds, and if I had the visibility of PG, I would certainly be inclined to use it for this purpose.
But now back to you, and to your own motives for questioning motives.
Hello everybody! I am so glad i found this site. I have been a fan of Charles since 9/11. But he sure has changed. I have never witnessed somebody changing that fast. I would not be the leaat bit surprised that the Muslim fundementalistS have gotten to him. Have you all wondered, maybe he has some family kidnapped or point blank threatened? Thats the only reason that could explain his behaviour.
That last thread about Gellar was the worst thread Charles ever wrote. Charles, if you’re reading this, you should be ashamed of yourself. You and your family of bootlickers wouldn’t know their assholes from the hole in the ground. All those who supported you in That thread should be truly ashamed. Your intense hatred for Gellar blinds you to the obvious. A girl was killed and denied a headstone. IT IS NOT A PRIVATE MATTER YOU ASSHAT! If going all out to commemerate the ‘honor killing’ of a poor young girl makes me a Nazi, THEN CALL ME ADOLF! A MURDER IS NOT A PRIVATE MATTER!
To Charles, SCREW YOU AND YOUR MERRY BAND OF BOOTLICKERS!
Long live the New LGF! God bless the person who created this site!
Welcome, Jamuka! At the rate Charles is alienating his base, LGF2 will be among the fastest growing blogs ever!
I have avoided posting about charles but he seems to be getting stranger and stranger. His obsession with evolution and hatred for all things religious is weird enough. But, why in the world he insists on going to war with EVERY other conservative blogger is mind boggling! Who is charles to argue with Robert Spencer?! What has charles ever accomplished in this battle. Don’t misunderstand, I know he has done a remarkable job of writing code for a blog but, what has he done that puts him ANYWHERE in the league with Robert Spencer. I don’t mean to be unkind but I believe the man must be insane!
I find it quite curious that all too many the new commenters on this site have somehow found an avatar that is closely related to many who post here.
I give it a big hmmm…
S&D Man,
Umm… what?!
theparson
Must I state it again? I think what was said is very clear.
Well I don’t get it. Maybe theirs was just assigned to them like mine was.
Oh, it’s really getting whacky over there tonight peeps.
Chuckles is on a Jihad about Global Warming Skeptics being tied to Creationism (2nd George Will GW article thread) and a new thread just posted claims that the “Top 3 GOP Governors are Creationists”.
That’s OK, TheOsprey, God is a Creationist too.
theparson
How does that happen? That is, the automatic assignment of an avatar. I have a wordpress account and have been unable so for to change the black box to the more identifiable music notes that were mine for a spell. I guess my net literacy and acumen is fading.
Here’s the latest. I’ve been posting as “Hobbes” on LGF for some time. A few minutes ago, Charles posted the opinion that McCain had selected Sarah in order to gain the Christian right vote. I suggested that he was dead wrong, she’d been chosen because she was a woman. In reaction to his having condemned so many former and potential republican standard bearers as Creationists, I opined that he must be happy with the fascist/socialist regime we’re now living under and added that his anti-creationist stand represented a ridiculous litmus test which would leave us only with candidates vying for a middle ground where no appreciable number of voters exist.
BLOCKED and he didn’t even show my avatar as the one who’d been deleted.
Poor me, it looks like I’ll never be able to enjoy the company of Sharmuta and Salmantis again.
By the way, did you know Duncan Hunter was labeled a Creationist too? Guess that was my last straw.
S&D,
I don’t know. When the admins changed the scheme I all of the sudden had an avatar and it hasn’t changed since then. I asked how to change it once and somebody answered me but I’ve never done it.
I value human life, and always will.
Good for you Pam and Robert, for staying on this issue. A sixteen year old is more a child, than a young lady free to proclaim her emancipation.
That her life was brutally ended by the one person who had a sacred trust to protect her, is a dual outrage. That they wish to extinguish her existence is unforgivable.
Anyone that supports their denial of her short life, and tell those who refuse to let her passing go unnoticed it’s none of their business, are as abominable as her father.
no2liberals – I fixed it for ya, and deleted the correction.
It’s obvious charles has figured it all out, folks.
Forget the Bilderbergers. Don’t worry about the silly Skull & Bones. It’s not the CFR, Illuminati, or the UN or the global jihadists that deserves our greatest concern for destroying America. It’s those insidious creationists! Oh, the humanity!
Thanks, DJM.
Hey crew,
1st post here. As an original 1.0 member before reg, and mostly lurker the last few years, I’m happy to see a place to post views on the topics we care about without the threat of constant banning. The lockstep mentality grows stronger and narrower by the day. I really like the links provided there, but the comments to topics is like walking on glass. I’ll send my traffic here from now on. Pam, like your work, if your a little flamboyant to some, so what? At least here we can talk about ideas like adults. I see many familiar names here and probably many more like me, with our temporary alias. Cheers.
I suspect something is not right. You all will figure it out soon enough. Later.
Whoever is doing this, just stop…now.
What the hell is going on over there? It’s like an echo chamber.
It used to be a free wheeling open forum, anything goes. Now if you don’t walk in lock step will sharmuta and killgore trout, you get the boot. Never mind that you don’t personally attack anyone and your comments are polite and concise, you actually have to agree with everything the boss lizards say. It’s crazy, who the hell would want to post over there? Not to mention that every thread is either an evolution thread or an attack on conservatives.
Charles has completely lost his mind, and he’s getting extremely paranoid also.
I recall suggesting to many on 1.0 they were transparent when what they said was jive pre 1.0, and of course they shrank back to their corner of deception with little to say.
And so with that, I see more that are transparent.
You will know who you are.
ha
Only a coward or worse, a liar, would post a thing he really doesn’t believe. I see through you.
And just so everyone knows a Dirty Sanchez is a racial slam as well as a disgusting pornographic slang description of a thing you really don’t want to know about.
Whoever you are, I must say, you are bound by a power that is above your strength alone to shake it off.
A look to the Creator may be of some help.
Oh it’s really gettin’ bad. Charles is now accusing Newt Gingrich of being a stealth creationist.
DJM
Thanks for the welcome. Great site!
Song and Danace, do you know something we don’t? Please share.
From 1.0
Newswatch * WIS * TV * January 29, 2006
Host: David Stanton
Guest: Gov. Mark Sanford
DS: What do you think about the idea of teaching alternatives to Darwin’s Theory of Evolution in public schools* for instance Intelligent Design?
Gov. Sanford: I have no problem with it.
DS: Do you think it should be done that way? Rather than just teaching evolution?
Gov. Sanford: Well I think that it’s just, and science is more and more documenting this, is that there are real “chinks” in the armor of evolution being the only way we came about. The idea of there being a, you know, a little mud hole and two mosquitoes get together and the next thing you know you have a human being* is completely at odds with, you know, one of the laws of thermodynamics which is the law of, of … in essence, destruction.
Whether you think about your bedroom and how messy it gets over time or you think about the decay in the building itself over time. Things don’t naturally order themselves towards progression*. Uuummm.. in the natural order of things. So, it’s in fact, it’s against fairly basic laws of physics* and so I would not have a problem in teaching both * Uh, you saying this is one theory and this is another theory.
Boy oh boy, I already love this Governor, makes me want to be a creationist. LOL!!!!!!
Yeah, song and dance, what is happening behind the curtain?
Is it Chucky playing tricks?
Maybe he needs some more Shakespeare:
Okay, when should I go to Chuckie’s pathetic blog “Liberal Green Footballs” and get banned, but go down in a ball of flames? I still have 2 seldom-used sockpuppets with maybe 100 posts combined. And I have so damn much to say to the losers that still think LGF is relevant.
Well S and D, I’m not sure who you are referring to. Is the influx of newbies here a problem? I see it as positive thing for a blog. As an aside, my avatar was assigned to me at my 1st post, I didn’t see any way to create one. I’m not seeing any Mobies or Trolls from my short time here. Is there something going on we need to know about?
Awww, Pamela linked this post at her blog, and didn’t mention my coverage at all, er at least not by name. Pammycakes, if your still around, have fun keeping me blocked in every way. I do that to ALL of my friends after one little political disagreement! Now go drop your boobs on Spencer for YouTube again. I hope you saw my coverage and can answer for me the question of how you can still wonder why people don’t take you seriously. It was a serious question, well, sort of.
OK, back to slaughtering Pamela in a new post….LOL.
Hey Bob, I have 2 nics there as well. I’m just fading away, you know the game there. Anything you say will be gone quickly and fodder for the nitwits.
This is my second posting here. As I said on a earlier thread, my LGF account was blocked simply because I down-dinged the Glenn Beck thread. Strangely, though, I am not really angry at Charles, just very sad and disappointed at his sudden reversal. His role in exposing the TANG memos as forgeries probably prevented John Kerry from becoming President, which would have been a disaster. But that seems so long ago. What a shame.
Charles banned my account because I posted that Atlas was undertaking a noble endeavour.
He personally deleted my post. I spent months trying to get on his forum…but because I posted a contradictory view, he deleted my post and banned my account!
What does that say about his editorial policies?
Sparky
I didn’t single any one out, with the exception of Dirty Sanchez.
No, there is no problem with the 1.0 refugees and newbies coming on board. I have yet to pull the welcome wagon, but if my train were employed it would be a graceful and cheerful chuck wagon.
However, let it be known that fact check your ass has not died just because 1.0 let it go.
S and D
Understood, just seemed a little chilly. Anyways, on to real issues I hope. We’ll need to match every trick the O team has and then some to get a grip on this country again. The many petty issues with narrow descriptors CJ deploys, are a distraction to greater threats. Our fragmentation is the cause of our recent loses and a new unity and focus must be found. And that’s why I’m here. Here’s to better days.
Okay S&D, I changed my name. I will no longer go by Dirty Sanchez.
And by the way, it was just a joke. There wasn’t anything racial about it. My point is still the same though, Charles has gone off the deep end. Just as conservatives are starting to coalesce, Charles decides to trash every right wing pundit and politician.
Charles is not now, nor has he ever been a conservative.
Charles is having a breakdown and we are all seeing this.
Sparky & Skippy
Sparky
Cool. The best thingy where words are concerned, and with it that thing that backs them, is to combat the lie with truth.
Sparky, I hardly know anything of the CJ descriptor deployments and the greater threats they assuage. I have no idea of what you suggest is ‘our fragmentation’ and and some subsequent loss. Could you please explain?
Sparky
I will have to fact check that the Blogatator is deciding to trash right wing pundit and politician. Till then the jury is still having lunch.
Good Lord. Did Charles REALLY say that we ought to ignore honor killings because it is ‘family business’ ? ? ?
I suppose the only ‘family business’ that Charles thinks is ok to butt into is teaching children about Creation.
Charles is having a breakdown and we are all seeing this.
Rodan–I guess it’s all subjective. IMO Pamela is the one who melted down, though I expeded Charles to post something about one of his “enemies”
Seriously though, Pamela’s post here makes her look like an even bigger idiot than the article about her did. She even goes out of her way to exclaim that she never called Muslims “retards” when Selley had attributed that to someone else.
Sorry folks, I find Pamela indefensible. On this post and others. Good to see her drop in though, even if she’ll run from me like the plague.
Pamela is not breaking down, no in the near future. This is a case of ‘projection’. In fact, she is more popular then ever. This ‘breajwodn/meltdown’ talks are clear cut cases of projections that have nothing to do with real life. Just go read the comments on selleys site and you’ll know what I mean.
She has endevoured to do the unspeakable, which is to point out something seriously wrong with a community. She has done the unthinkable, she and spencer. They will enjoy greater support, more then ever.
Un-freakin’-believable!
Good post, DJM.
This thread is why I do not want to see Charles dropped off the front page here. This type of absolute hypocrisy must be properly exposed outside the echo chamber of 1.0. I’m disgusted when 1.0 still gets referenced on other, more likable blogs, like Powerline or Gateway Pundit. Through this type of exposure, maybe that will rightfully stop.
Besides, I enjoy reading the Diaries of the Banned (and Those Who Packed Up and Left), and these threads here always provide me with just such an opportunity. Because someone always gets banned at 1.0 in a thread with a comment from CJ such as this. This poor murdered child, honor-killed by her own family, shouldn’t be remembered even in death? Because this is none of our Infidel business? As I’ve said before, CJ is a PC multi-culti parody all by himself. It’s time for a ‘poor Yorick, I knew him well’ eulogy for CJ and 1.0. I’m sure someone can find a prop skull to make the scene complete.
Lex, it’ easy to point and make claims about that sort of reaction from Pamela but think about her perspective for a moment. She’s trying to do something to honour this girl and she’s faced with complete hatchet-jobs from msm pundits. The article was worded such that it implied she approved of that comment, and others like it. Given her personallity it’s not surprising she took just a smidgen of offence.
Charles has become a swaggering tyrant. I used to be a regular commenter at LGF but no more. I only go there now to watch the meltdown. Its sad because there are folks there that I used to like a lot.
I managed to capture a worthy comment on the ridiculous ‘mission statement’ thread from another [now banned] LGF’er. It was deleted within moments:
“eyore 2/18/09 2:35:26 am reply quote
Well Charles, I think the compliment is well-earned. I’ve watched quietly for the past couple of months as the tone has shifted on LGF. It happened with Sullivan too, and eventually he became an Obamanite.
You threw Oriana’s corpse under the bus, along with many others. How long before you throw Bibi under the bus, and then all of the Jews?
You obsess constantly about Creationists – who cares, really? In the grand scheme of things it does not matter. Christians will teach their children the creation story, and atheists will rail against it.
Demographics is destiny, Charles. The Muslims understand this very well, and in Europe (where I am) they openly say that they will out-breed us. When a couple has only one child, the population drops exponentially. The average in many European countries is close to 1 child per woman. Except for the Muslims, where it is many times that. Much of Europe will be Muslim within two generations. The United States will suffer a similar fate. Thank God (or whomever you might thank) that those invading the US are Christians and for the most part share our western values.”
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/32813/comments/#cc6733611
Former LGF’er said…
I used to be a regular commenter at LGF but no more. I only go there now to watch the meltdown.
As ‘beagle’ has pointed out, don’t go there at all, don’t give him the traffic. Seriously. CJ lives for traffic.
Base words are uttered only by the base
And can for such at once be understood;
But noble platitudes — ah, there’s a case
Where the most careful scrutiny is needed
To tell a voice that’s genuinely good
From one that’s base but merely has succeeded.
— W. H. Auden
Ironic that he’s using this on his latest open thread…
archonix – Charles attempts to use quotations as a form of subtle, intellectual retort. Unfortunately, I don’t think he really understands the words or he’d see his own hypocrisy in them.
Bob, I think I’m going down in flames today.
aaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
That felt SO.FUCKING.GOOD.
*sigh*
It’s a matter of time before he’s gonna tell us Obama is the next best thing to sliced bread. LOL!
Arwyn kafir, please share how you went down in flames.
My final post as “m” on lgf:
I’m still m (forever since that’s what my tat says
) … but I’m damn sure not on lgf anymore
(wordpress didn’t like my one letter moniker, so I chose my favorite fantasy character… plus at the time I didn’t want all of my comments deleted from lgf. Now I couldn’t care less… if you can’t’ tell).
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Hey people! Long time, no see!
Realwest, Obi-Wan would be floored to read your words now.
I’d rather be on topic, but then I would be accused of trying to sneak on a dead thread and leave trash. I tried to leave quietly almost a year ago, but here we are. Pastorius, I salute you for being able to disagree so gracefully and I’m glad you have the numbers behind your clicky or you would be banned for daring to disagree with the lizards.
Wow, Charles. You’d rather side with the people that killed their own child (for whatever reason) than admit that Pamela is right about something? It would be different if she was trying to carve her blog address into the monument.
“Beloved, Remembered, Free”
HOW DARE THEY?
This money did not come from her alone. Many people cared enough to donate so Aqsa Parvez would not fade into oblivion. Her name should serve as a warning.
Instead, her murderers should be allowed to put her in an unmarked grave for spite? You’re siding with hate for liberal western values. Don’t you understand, that’s you Chuck. Hate against you. Surely you should give as much effort to go against someone that hates YOU as you give to smear those you hate.
You, Sir (and I use the term loosely), are out of your fucking mind.
And Thanos, this girl wasn’t killed in an Islamic country for being westernized. She was killed in Canada for being Canadian. How dare you equate that with Afghanistan and Pakistan. People would damn sure like to change that, but they’re choosing to live like that. It would be nice not to let the practice creep over here to begin with. If she died of natural causes it would be the families choice. THEY KILLED HER. What about that do you not understand? Pam sucks trumps everything, huh?
side note: Sharmuta. You sure don’t sound like the W-Lover/Dubluv/Imma Dhimmi of old that told me she wanted to rip off the veils of the women in bags she came across on the bus. Or the same person that wanted to SCREAM for liberty when you did see their faces and they were bruised?
What have YOU done to honor this child’s memory? You have the nerve to say she should have done something different, but yet you and your fucking hero (waves to Chuck) have failed to do ANYTHING for her, except for try to capitalize on the Atlas threads while claiming Pamela is capitalizing on it.
You changed your name and whored out your values for the attention of some blog owner across the country. Suddenly you were plussing yourself with all 3 identies AND your ex-husband’s Brett Favre ID (check the threads before the ratings identity popup- One example). You need serious mental help. I hope you find it one day. For your children’s sake. REALLY.
Deny you did that (even though people can click and find out for themselves) and I’ll post all your psycho emails (“Charles LOVES me! He really, really loves me!”) for the freaking world to see.
—–
If that isn’t enough to get all of my comments deleted from here (most were fun on the dead, dead thread anyway- I miss ya DDT’ers!), I also post as Arwyn Kafir over at LGF 2..0
The Blogmocracy suits me better than a blogtatorship.
AND I think Robert Spencer is the bees knees!
Have a nice life. And the rest of you should grow some and speak up when you disagree. Getting banned isn’t the end of the world. Watch
(Charles, if you would add a “delete this account” option you would be spared a lot of the dramatics)
Account is now banned over at LGF for nothing other than using the voting mechanism he put in place. I rarely commented and only scanned the stories and comments recently. I usually just grabbed the headlines and scanned the comments slowing down only to look at the high and low rated comments. Of course, over the past several months, that meant I had to trudge through the anti-Christian mess. I knew something was really wrong with I agreed more with the lowest rated comments. As someone who believes we should fight the Jihad, believes in creationism, finds global warming to be a scam… well, LGF has become an antithesis of my beliefs.
I still find it hilarious that someone would create a voting tool, and then use it as a tool to ban accounts. Of course, that behavior does scream of an Obama nut and I have a feeling LGF / Kos get closer and closer.
Markos Moulitsas Johnson? Little Green Kosballs?
Right Is Right, you’re right! Right IS right!
His baiting people with the voting tools just to ban them for their opinions is WRONG.
But of course justified by the lizard lackeys.
oh that last post is PERFECT!
Wait till I finish up my post I will use one of my sock puppets on. heh!
Arwyn Kafir
Please post Sharmutas e mails. I’m loving this….LOL!
Do it man, do it…
Chen Zen, there’s an invisible bear sitting in my living room. Just because there’s no evidence that he actually exists, doesn’t mean he’s not there.
That’s some pretty strange logic you’re using.
At least Pamela is doing something to memorialize Aqsa, and bring honor killings to the attention of the American public. I haven’t seen any prominent liberals attempting to do this. If I were to guess about their motives (I’m no mind reader) I’d have to surmise that they don’t care about female honor killings, or they’re too scared of Islam to dare criticize such murder—maybe a combination of both. At any rate, I think Pamela’s motives are probably better than theirs.
Les, there’s something more important here than your hurt feelings, and anger at “Pammycakes”, and that’s the fact that this young woman was murdered for wanting to live as a full member of the country she belonged to, and that other young women have also been murdered, to preserve their family’s “honor”. We need to remember them, and bring their cases to the public’s attention.
parson, as for Charles’ war against every other conservative blogger, I have a strong suspicion that medaura and the poster who uses several different nics, claiming to be her husband, might be behind a lot of that. I know they’re the ones who started the fight with Spencer.
Jamuka, that girl is nuts on roids.
Arwyn, is Sharmuta that bad?
So go join a group such as stopchildexecutions (I think it’s .org, I have it bookmarked and forget). It’s run by people from Iran but our petitions have actually saved some LIVES. Care about these women before they are killed. I agree with Chen above that Pamela wouldn’t have cared at all about this girl before her murder. Nor would Aqsa probably have picked someone like Pamela to run to and try to save her before she died.
I understand how Pamela, being a Mother, feels this way about a murdered girl. II’m upset about it as well, I think any decent human being would be and would even give money for a memorial. Most people wouldn’t give that money for Pamela’s campaign though, especially after reading her site. It’s exactly as that reporter, Selley, said in his article. They’d google her, find her blog, be offended and would not want to be associated with her. So on the one hand, I give Pamela credit for her somewhat confused efforts to memorialize this girl, but OTOH why would anyone trust her or Spencer to do this while they spend the rest of their time ranting about Islam being bad and trying to discredit The Qur’an? Especially if you’re Muslim?
I find bootlickers disgusting, abhorrent, unnatural….Crucify her Arwyn Kafir and publish those e mails. Maybe get the admins here to create a new thread. I bet you 100% she’s lurking around here, reporting everything like a faithful lackey without a brain.
Yes Sharmuta, we know you can’t resist you brainless twit.
Lex, are you aware she raised USD4K last count? Better check your facts first…
Lex, a word of advice. Stop coming in here and bashing people on the one hand and praising the same people in the same sentence, OK?
I like you and all that, but keep it up and I might have to give you a time out.
Lex, I’m trying to figure out what your purpose is in being here. Do you have a point of view that does not consist 100% of your whims and your own ego?
I replied to ChenZhen with what *my* motives would be regarding the gravestone. These would explain why stopchildexecutions.org would *not* be an adequate vehicle. Do you disagree? Is there something wrong with stopping creeping sharia on Western soil?
Lex said: “Sorry folks, I find Pamela indefensible. On this post and others. Good to see her drop in though, even if she’ll run from me like the plague.”
So, you would be one to advocate ignoring the message because you don’t like the messenger, right? Did you even read my post above? Did you comprehend any of it? I suggest you read it again, specifically starting with the third paragraph. Then come back and tell us again why Geller and Robert’s work to expose radical Islam should cancel out any good intentions in placing a marker of remembrance on the girl’s grave.
There’s a lot of hatred towards Pam now, and most of it sounds personal. (I’m sure some of it is just a few scared little kids defending the the schoolyard bully – Charles – so he doesn’t come after them.) I’ve seen nothing that warrants such animosity toward Pam or Atlas Shrugs. Those defending Charles sound more like whiny little cry-babies to me.
And don’t flatter yourself, Lex. Just because you’re not worthy of Pam’s attention doesn’t mean she runs from you. I’ve been debating jihadists long enough to know about that silly tactic of declaring victory on someone who doesn’t care enough to response to stupid comments. You, Lex, would do them proud.
I don’t want to see anyone banned from LGF2, but I’m in a foul mood and today would not be a good day to test the limits here, especially not on one of my threads.
Take that however you want.
That’s right, Lex, it’s all about you. Bad, pammycakes, bad, bad!
/Do I need one?
I don’t see a lot of hatred for Pamela, except the hate coming from the left and from CJ. That says more about Charles then it does about Pamela.
Spencer to do this while they spend the rest of their time ranting about Islam being bad and trying to discredit The Qur’an? Especially if you’re Muslim?
Lex, is that why you hate Robert? because you think the Qur’an is a great book that is not full of contradictions and violence?
Do you realize that one can hate Islam the Qur’an and hadeeth, yet not hate all Moslems?
I hope you don’t ban anybody DJM, lets practise free speech, even for wierdo’s like Lex, otherwise we would be no different from Charles and his lackeys.
Lex, Lex, I suspect you’re being ignored by Pamela so you come here to lcik your wounds…LOL!!! Take it easy Lexi…go out, go get laid, you’ll feel a whole load better.
I think that some Pod has taken over Charles Johnson’s body because his blog is becoming increasingly irrational (almost like Andrew Sullivan’s metamorphosis). Soon I expect a thread about “Neocons”.
Jamuka said…
“go out, go get laid, you’ll feel a whole load
betterlighter.”FIFY
Arwyn Kafir: good job with that final post at 1.0!! I’m sure that Chuckles deleted it promptly, but what a way to go down in flames!!!!!
I salute you sir!
Seriously, what is going on over there? The hatred and intolerance is as bad as any of the kooky LLL blogs. Is he driving people away from his site on purpose, or has he just lost his mind?
Savage: Arwyn, is Sharmuta that bad
Yes.
Thanks TunnelRat. I’m leaning towards “he’s doing it on purpose”. And the people that are still there that have flipped their worldview 180 degrees on the whim of a blog owner need psychiatric help.
(psst: i’m not a Sir)
You crashed and burned most wonderfully, Arwyn. I salute you!
lol, Thanks Yaza!!
*sigh*
I really should have done that a LONG time ago.
I’m also leaning towards “He’s doing it on purpose”, though I think he’s going a bit nuts, too.
I suspect one of the thing’s infuriating him is that his handlers assured him that his flip would be far more widely accepted than it has been. It hasn’t won him any followers from the DU, or Daily KOS, and it’s alienating those who once supported him. And he’s not really libertarian enough for libertarians.
Veritas said…
I think that some Pod has taken over Charles Johnson’s body because his blog is becoming increasingly irrational (almost like Andrew Sullivan’s metamorphosis). Soon I expect a thread about “Neocons”.
Sorry, Veritas! You had no links, but your comment went to spam anyway
(
You’re free! lol
Arwyn, that was a classic last post. I know a lot of lizards who just can’t stand it over there anymore. Most of them have just quit posting, yet they maintain active accounts.
I wish more of them would make a final statement like you did. Of course, they would have to make a copy and post it here (or any number of other refugee sites for posterity) because it will be deleted immediately. Bravo for your courage in saying what needs to be said.
And for all of you who still have an account, don’t dare speak out against global warming. Seems that Charles has flipped on that also.
Lex, can you tell us what is good about Islam, and why the Koran shouldn’t be discredited? Can you make a real case in favor of the under-appreciated virtues of both? (Not one inspired by the likes of Karen Armstrong, or Edward Said!) Or are you just pulling the old “You’re all racists/Islamophobes!” on us?
There are good reasons for not liking a particular movement, religious or not, especially when it seems bent, as Islam does, in making war against its non-Islamic neighbors. And Spencer, and Pamela, state pretty clearly what they don’t like about it, and what the Koran actually says, and why it isn’t peaceful.
If you can make an actual case, do go ahead, but if you just don’t like criticism of Islam because you think only mean ol’ meanies would do such a thing, or because it makes you uncomfortable criticizing a politically third world religion, all I can say is I have to go feed my invisible bear. Just because you can’t see, feel or hear him doesn’t mean he’s not there!
And I remember that global warming used to be mocked a lot on LGF.
Skippy, mine stayed up only long enough to earn a minus 2.
I thought for sure they’d be down-dinging quicker than the monitor lizards could delete.
(unless the ones that had a chance to read it agreed)
Mark Steyn supports Pamela.
http://www.steynonline.com/content/view/1800/128/
By extension calls CJ a c***t.
HaHa
Arwyn, for your LGF1.0 bye-bye post +1
Yaza, a lot of things used to be mocked over there. Now that only things being mocked are Christians (Jews will be next), Republicans who actually believe in conservatism (Charles believes that Republicans should act more like Democrats to get elected) and now anti-global warming advocates.
It seems that the science is indisputable as to global warming, according to Charles. No word from him about whether the science was indisputable back in the 70’s when they told us we were entering a new ice age.
Sadly, Skippy, yes, I think Jews are next on the hate list.
Yaza,
So have we discussed 1.0’s “Huff Po” moment?
Jamuka – I don’t plan to ban anyone (though I feel like it sometimes). I’ve been here at LGF2 for a while and, as far as I know, no one has been banned.
That being said, like free speech, there shouldn’t be an absolute right to say anything any one wants. Its one thing to dissent and express opposing views.
Its another to be a troll.
Arwyn——– For PITY’s sake, PLEASE don’t publish private e-mails from Sharmuta.
That’s just not right. Tempting, yes, but not right.:)
(Great blaze-of-glory exit!!!)
The GOP and Creationism
Politics | Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 9:08:08 am PST
For reference, I’m not the only blogger who believes that the GOP’s association with creationism is one of the factors that caused massive losses in the last two elections; Randy Barnett at the Volokh Conspiracy: This is Not Good.
And since there are so many people who insist on denying this, here’s a simple illustration of the importance of the issue in the 2008 election:
sarah palin creationism – Google Search.
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The blog being referenced (Volokh Conspiracy) links to one a 1.0 anti-creation article so I am not sure that really supports anything.
There are many reasons the GOP lost this last election, I highly doubt belief in creationism had anything to do with it. And there was a recent poll that suggested most American didn’t buy Darwinism anyway, so wouldn’t that work in favor of the GOP?
Anastasia, I’m not. But she really doesn’t need to push the issue.
DJM said…
Jamuka – I don’t plan to ban anyone (though I feel like it sometimes). I’ve been here at LGF2 for a while and, as far as I know, no one has been banned.
Sura?
Arwyn, allow me to be among the many others commending you on an excellent last post. By now, it has been erased and Charles is explaining the deletion by listing the many LGF forum terms you violated, including the ‘racist’ insults you hurled at innocent posters…
What is really satisfying about all of this – As Charles clears out those he considers “undesirable,” this blog gains strength and support.
*cackles*
m is still my heroette.
Arwyn—– I believe that!
Bar—-Oooooooh. The Volokh Conspiracy. Big important influence on the voters!
Actually, MY theory is that the GOP lost because too many voters believe that Republicans are chimpanzees. Here’s my CJ- style PROOF: Google George Bush + chimp and see how many entries you get.
RickZ – I didn’t know Sura had been banned. But I did notice how much more pleasant it was without her.
Sharmie, stop calling me.
For one thing, I’m on a conference call, for another I don’t care what you have to say. Tell Charles.
Or go ding yourself some more, you fucking nutcase.
km said: “Mark Steyn supports Pamela.
http://www.steynonline.com/content/view/1800/128/“
It’s a good article, but I fear too many are missing a huge point in the case – part of an honour killing is completely removing the shame. That includes not only the actual killing, but also the memory of the person to the point that they are disposed of and forgotten, hence, the unmarked grave.
If we ignore the unmarked grave of such a victim, we are helping to perpetuate that honour killing.
In 10 or 20 years, hell, even in 5 years, without people like Pam, no one will remember the person buried under marker 774.
final posts, sockpuppets. Too fun! so I did carry on with a sock puppet awhile back I posted on the Darwin’s birthday thread. This thread was started with a video of a bunch of folks talking to Darwin and wishing him happy birthday. so I posted, ” I wish G-d were dead like Darwin. Then we could have a fair fight. /”
And lo and behold he blocked my sock right away!
{{LanceKates}}
Yours was the banning that did it for me. I have not posted since that day until today. I was irked by Charles already, but stayed for the commenters. Once he tossed you out for having the audacity to say “two in a row, heh?” about his beginning obsession with creationist, I knew it was only a matter of time for me.
How can people stay over there and sit on their hands without giving their opinions? Unless they agree with Charles’ 180, in which case there is probably no help for them.
RWZ——–
Good one!
Reminds me of a t-shirt I once had that said:
GOD IS DEAD —-Nietzsche
NIETZSCHE IS DEAD —-God
or “two in a
rowday”Something like that! lol
DJM said…
RickZ – I didn’t know Sura had been banned. But I did notice how much more pleasant it was without her.
That’s why I put it as a question. I thought she was banned (the only banning that I know of). And your second sentence above is why I believe in judicious banning, not the nuclear kind of banning as we see at 1.0. Some people just have no sense. Why put up with them? And I’m talking being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian, not an actual debate. (Looking at Lex.) I had a dorm roommate like that in college. A real pain in the @ss that one was, a sophistry artiste to the max. Which I guess is why I have very little patience for such people or their ‘arguments’.
Anastasia, lol. Love it.
Arwyn—–Most people stay over there for the OT chit-chat. That’s all.
anastasia, that works too. HAHA Can’t wait for Charles’ Nietszche obsession. ..
All over the blogosphere, especially the right of center blogs, people are talking about what a joke lgf has become.
Yaza,
You are not the only one who suspects the Albanian Harpy as being a behind the scenes instigator in the LGF vs the World BlogWars, along with her husband MPH and I think the posters “Cato the Elder” and “Jimmah” (why would anyone name himself after such a failed President?) are in on it as well.
One of the reasons I think LGF has gone down the rathole is that those of us who are opposed to it’s leftward slide have not done as much behind the scenes organizing as this crowd has. Whether it’s worth it at this point though, is debatable. I’m kind of enjoying the crash and burn.
Yes, Osprey, me too.
Yes, I think the Albanian Harpy is behind a lot of it, though many lizards seem to think her the greatest thing since sliced bread, and just so awful darn cute!
At this point, she and MPH (?) really seem to be pushing for some sort of legal showdown with Spencer, and trying to drag Charles into it. I don’t know if their game is simply to discredit conservative blogs in general; if that lawsuit does happen, what would you like to bet they hightail it back to Albania, or wherever, leaving Charles to clean up the mess they leave?
As for Cato, one wonders what he was doing lurking around that white power face book, in order to catch Spencer so quickly?
Am I the only one that remembers the treatment 1.0 gave The Huffington Post for their ending discussion after realizing whom actually visited their site?
Arwyn Kafir
Haha. Now I almost know who I’m addressing. And yes I do remember you from 1.0.
Wrath
I recall the criticism at 1.0 about the lefty blogs shutting down a thread because of who might say what.
As I have said many times: a true liberal always accuses other of behavior they engage in themselves. I think it’s apparent the 1.0 Blogtator’s true colors have finally been revealed. Yet, unlike others, I see the meltdown as pitiful, and I feel sad for those who might not agree with the Blogtator, yet remain there for the sake of being a poster on a prestigious, yet faltering, blog.
Skippy said…
All over the blogosphere, especially the right of center blogs, people are talking about what a joke lgf has become.
Funny, I just read these back to back comments at Ace:
I left Hot Air recently. I used my standard line: “It’s not you, it’s me”.
Truth is… It’s not me. It’s them.
Posted by: BC
Then this:
and LGF is getting the same way…..
Posted by: BC
Yep, the righty blogosphere is taking notice. As I’m sure the lefty one is, too, but for different reasons.
I don’t know about HotAir, Rick. I never go into the comments there, but the headlines seem pretty good.
She doesn’t seem to dwell on stupid stuff like ID.
RickZ and Skippy
Read the top story and what Steyn has to say, rather subtly, about those criticizing Pam Geller.
Wrath, I must have missed that. Was it in the last year?
Song
) It’s me, it’s me, not Ernest T.
Anastasia said: Arwyn—–Most people stay over there for the OT chit-chat. That’s all.
I know. But if they would move on, the other blogs would be more active. They could keep their morals and their friends
) And Charles wouldn’t be rewarded for his assiness.
Win/Win!
;o)
Skippy,
When you’re at HotAir, skip AllahPundit. He’s like CJ, a shadow of his former self. IIRC, CJ really liked AllahPundit before he went silent (then reappeared at HA). Kinda says it all. About the both of them.
Wow – how did I NOT know about this site?
I was an LGF poster way back, under a different name, and was banned by Dear Leader after a kerfuffle with another blog.
Charles has either lost his frigging mind or his true colors are finally blooming forth.
What an unmitigated arsehole.
Capitalistic Oil Wealth to Blame for Sexism in Middle East
/an MRC report regarding the view from the left
TeamDub said…
Wow – how did I NOT know about this site?
I was an LGF poster way back, under a different name
C’mon, give!
Oh, come on! “Ban” me? I thought that was the point of this site, a place to discuss these issues. No one jumped all over me for agreeing on the abortion post. I actually agree with you guys quite a bit and am usually quite polite (or at least snarky) in my comments here. But I disagree on this one. Cannot dissent exist here as well? Especially with what you said about your “mood”….that’s what Charles does when he’s in a mood, he combs through his threads banning people.
Let me disagree as you let Chen do also. And no, I’m hardly licking any wounds. I find it rather funny that someone claiming to stand up for freedom of expression and the right to dissent has me blocked in more ways than Charles could even dream of. At least (though you took it differently) I did temper my comment by stating that I can understand Pamela’s outrage over the murder of Aqsa Parvez. I’m sure that’s why she’s so outraged, as everyone should be. But no, my former friendship with Pamela didn’t end in ways that make things “personal”. And she raised 4K. Whoop-dee-do. That’s about what her family used to raise yearly for the GOP. I just know her too well to see this any differently.
I’m not going to debate the merits and the things I dislike in the Qur’an here, I have enough of a debate going at my place on that and a few other subjects. I saw the link while doing my write-up on Geller’s post to this post. Otherwise I’d be shooting the shit with you all about something less serious. But seriously, don’t ban me, that would be going too far. If we can agree that I’ll lay off of this subject here from now on, is that enough of an agreement for me to not get banned? Like I say, I do agree with you guys lots of times and rather like talking with some of you. I like meeting the banned people who come here too.
I won’t bring up Pamela again here. Not for this kind of trouble, honestly.
Rick, I was a longtime LGF poster also. I’m sure many of us were.
I don’t remember that particular criticism of HuffPo.
I do remember that CJ &Co used to loathe Kos and there was A LOT of anti-Kos hostility over there. Not so much anymore.
But then, CJ himself has started to link to sites that cross-post w/ Kos.
(The anti-evangelical thing w/ CJ really HAS become obsessional.)
Skippy said…
Rick, I was a longtime LGF poster also. I’m sure many of us were.
Was Skippy your nick at 1.0? I seem to remember a Skippy there, but I’m not swearing to that. And yes, I am here who I was there, both in nickname and in philosophy.
Welcome, TeamDub!
I used to be DJM at LGF, not that anyone would know since I rarely posted there. I was banned for added one link that Charles didn’t like to the link viewer.
Lex, you want a little cheese with that whine?
BTW, I forgot to welcome “Tommy2″ to LGF2. Tommy, is that ‘Tommy’ and the number two or… nevermind, it doesn’t work in text. (To ‘get’ that, you’d have to be a 3rd Rock fan…)
Evidently dissent can exist here Lex, I see still see your posts.
(but y’all know I say NO bannings anyway… we can run the trolls off with reason)
Sura screwed up when he po’ed the head admin in charge.
^ Not that I’m saying Lex is a troll. Just a contrarian.
Well, I was once known as “SmugMonkey” and had a crappy blogspot blog.
I snuck past CJ’s vaunted security a couple times just to post my distaste for what LGF had become, of course resulting in immediate bannage.
That cesspool is good for only comedic relief, as the lemmingesque groupthink is a thing to behold.
Oh, P.S. Charles… CREATIONISM!!!!!!eleventy!!!!!!
There was a Skippy and also a Skippy Moment. I personally met Skippy Moment.
Lex——- For what it’s worth, I would hate to see you banned.
TeamDub
I remember you as well. I still have a couple nics over there but have never used them. I decided long ago that I would resist using socks.
If bannings are going to happen here I will quit posting, since it goes against everything this site is claiming to become.
Heh, one of my favorite (and last) posts from “1.0″:
Funny what you can find Googling “LGF + SmugMonkey.”
Rick, no I didn’t go by Skippy. If I were to disclose my name you would immediately recognize it. I’m working on my ‘blaze of glory’ exit like Arwyn made, I’m just not ready for it yet.
song_and_dance_man – I remember you as well, and a few other names here look familiar…
Oh well, so glad I found this place (Thanks Pamela you Sh*t Stirrer!) and will be back soon.
Take care all.
- The Artist Formerly Known as SmugMonkey.
Oh, and thanks for the welcome, DJM – love what you’ve done with the place.
Song, don’t worry! I feel the same way! ^ ^
I always thought it was strange how CJ always liked to mention Daily Kos. He’s a spoiled brat leftist mugged by 911, who like all leftists, seeks control and conformity. He will never stand up for controversial issues, it’s only time before he walks away from support of Israel.
I’m still confused, how can one person change so much in such a short span of time? It’s impossible…almost impossible! Charles, what happened to you mate? Did some Bible thumper break your heart? C’mon man….wake up, stop being a loony toon
You can still change, apologize and get back to your old self. Sigh, I very much doubt that will happen.
Predictably, LGF 1.0 will die a swift death, it will drop to the level of some highscoolers personal diary. Soon it will just be Charles, Killgore Moron and Dumbmurta…lol!
To think that LGF was the Conservative weblog around…
♪ It’s only just beguuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuun ♪
He’s already on his way in that direction with his mocking of the orthodox and their belief in the Eternal as Creator.
I doubt there are many atheist Jews. Only Spinoza and Einstein come to mind.
Einstein was not an atheist, no matter what Charles and Killgore Trout would have you believe.
He hasn’t changed one bit. It was only when he began to post in the comments did everyone get to see him as he has always been.
What has changed is the readers and commenters. The conservatives have been ousted. This occurred when the Blogtator began to comment and those who believed as he championed him and ridiculed those who disagreed. The bannings are the result of the pseudo conservative Charles Johnson coming out of his liberal closet.
It was the readers who made that blog what it became until the outing of the 1.0 Blogtator. Aladamit, I wish I still had the link, but someone at another site linked the reader who was the one who actually discovered the MS Word/ Rather TANG memo forgery. Johnson stole the idea from a reader and rode it to infamy.
Charles and Killgore Trout have me believing nothing except they have lost their way.
Check your e-mail, S&D…..@stte.
song_and_dance_man said…
Aladamit, I wish I still had the link, but someone at another site linked the reader who was the one who actually discovered the MS Word/ Rather TANG memo forgery. Johnson stole the idea from a reader and rode it to infamy.
Same with some of the fauxtography from the Israel-Hizb’Allah War in 2006. Someone here a while back, I forget who, mentioned they sent the info to CJ, and he ran with that story, too. Without a Hat Tip. Back then, both Tang and fauxtography got him face time on tv, which stroked his self-inflated ego and which was the beginning of the end of 1,0.
Skippy
LOL
Good to see you here
Charles is an asshole, period.
It’s hillarious watching his loyal longtime members (well, the ones who haven’t left or have been banned) defend his every word.
MandyManners, KilgoreTrout, Gringo…
A bunch of tools, the lot of them. Good ridance.
And for the record.
I was tiring of LGF and used the opportunity of my argument with Johnson to get banned. I wanted everyone to witness his hypocrisy. And I was emailing Babba during the whole thing and knew what would happen. Truthfully, it was a great relief to be relieved of the obsessive burden of posting there.
Yes, I’ll have lots of cheese with my whine.
Thanks Arwyn and Anastasia! I like not being banned….LOL….besides, I’m always good at the very least for silly photoshops of Charles and his football showing up in weird places.
Lance, that’s exactly what Charles seems to be saying; it’s a family matter, and how can we possibly interfere in a family matter? Just imagine what horrible things could happen if people started interfering with families like this? I don’t know. . . they might start honor killing their daughters, or something.
Yes, he supports the family that murdered this girl in the first place.
Yaza——- CJ is forgetting that destroying the memory of the dead girl is an essential part of the honor-killing routine. The community therefore needs to protest it and try to stop it.
CJ is letting his hatred for P Geller cloud his judgment.
Lex
You think I am a hater, I would not approve of your banning.
P.S.
DJM is a good and very reasonable guy, it would take a lot to get banned by him.
I agree Johnson was referring to the imposition of not respecting the families rights and butting in as none of our business. However I made the point up there earlier in the thread that the murder of the child and the families consent of it constitutes child abuse. And that should be enough to nullify any rights the family should have about how the body should be buried and memorialized. The state should have stepped up and in and done the right thing.
I hate one word replies, so I made mine longer.
But,
Yep.
Charles Johnson is a turkey. Pam Geller is a feminine heroine. I am a 77 year old woman who does computer graphics for a limited client list, has a website for photographs, and maintains an email list of friends and relatives to help inform them what dire things are happening to our country. I listen to all the biggies on radio, read extensively online and off, acknowledge my Jewish ancestry – a great grandfather – and a Catholic turned Baptist – a great grandmother, as well as numerous Methodists and Presbyterians. I have been in this politics business ever since I was able to vote. I have worked in local politics and have a relative who is a DC lobbyist (good side – for guns) as was my mother a pol who busted her you-know-whats to elect Ronald Reagan.
I was happy to discover LGF a few years back because I was intrigued with the analyses the of the fakery of the press, and being a user of that great program Photoshop was interested in the fakery of digital images. In time, after lurking, which I call simply visiting, I duly registered (after waiting for Charles to open the Audience Room) with LGF and was a registered user. However I quickly noticed that the “regulars” hung out for hours in order to make essentially OT comments. In short it was a gossip room.
I am too busy to hang around a gossip joint for hours in order to make nice with a bunch of strangers, so stopped looking in except for now and then to see what was new. Imagine my surprise when I discovered the incessant attacks on Creationism, starting with Bobbie Jindal, the brilliant and talented new governor of LA who could outthink CJ with “half his brain tied behind his back.” And creationism – who cares? I told my youngest years ago that it was a theory, not proved, and so what. But this CJ is making a fool of himself over this, when our country is in extreme danger and we need all the cohesion we can get among conservatives and those who are scared to death of the Marxist politics of the O. And furthermore we are all appalled with the inroads of the so-called religion of death in our western culture, whether here, or in Europe or in Israel where the threat is immanent, and many believe as I do that we are engaged in WWIII with the Islamofascists.
So I know who my friends and cohorts are, and I think we’d all better stop beating our gums and our fingertips over the distractions which may or may not be engineered to draw us into non-essential arguments. We know who our enemies are, and they are not Pamela Geller or Robert Spencer, or Rush, or Sean or Mark Levin. We are not going to beat O and his cohorts by arguing over non-essentials. We need to concentrate on Socialism and Islamofacism as the enemy, and whoever gets in the way should be left alone in an empty room without an audience. PERIOD!
m…what ever would we do without you.
/i remember
Very well said, Jamieos.
Good luck and G-dspeed to your gun lobbyist relative. Obama hides his agenda in plain sight and it makes my heart hurt when I think of the willing sheep being led to slaughter.
We won’t all go so willingly.
OT GEERT IS ON OREILLY!
N2L!
You DO remember!
)
I was thisclose to sending you an email to tell you who I was. Seriously. Every time I see you post I smile, but I wasn’t sure you’d remember me!
HI jamieos, love your post. We are distracted and we also are not immune from the egos of our figureheads in the political arena and the media, whom while well intentioned, have not found the formula pull us together. Many still fail to see the need to coalesce our limited resources has O did so brilliantly. I had hoped Newt would be able to do it with his drill now front, but that has faded. It was a good start though. If we are going to get anywhere by 2010, we need an infrastructure in place by the beginning of campaign season, not much time at all. What form it will eventually take is up for debate.
Hi there, first time poster here.
Lately, the most interesting links are in the Most Recent Links section. I joined LGF back in 2005 I believe, and got banned in the Glenn Beck thread for asking “does someone have sand in their gina?”. Heh.
Heh keyword, Nice!
Did you hear Glenn on the radio today? He went over his position again for the slow of hearing. Could be all those amps turned to 11.
/
Arwyn Kafir,
If it’s okay with you, I will nic you as AKM.
It works in recognition of your old and new nics, and also for us gun enthusiasts, as the Avtomat Kalashnikova-Modern, or in the general term, AK-47.
So, AKM, yes I remember those many dead threads, troll bashing, and thoughtful discussions. You and several of the old gang made it difficult to leave lgf, but the way CJ started behaving, and this was nearly four years ago, I wanted nothing to do with him. Hung out at Gulfcoast Pundit for a while, and now contribute to two other blogs.
Nuke’s, and Urban Grounds.
Good to see you here, and no longer on the dark side.
Wow Jamieos, well said!
You’re correct about CJ, he’s gone completely off the deep end.
Sparky,
You ask for red meat, but wouldn’t a little party discipline be a good start?
Boy oh boy, is this thread hoppin or what?
CJ, I’m taking all your traffic. neener neener neener!
Whoohoo! Just got banned from LGF after I tried to defend Ann Coulter from the ludicrous claims of He Who Shall Not Be Named that she was a white fascist and a neo-nazi.
And after I was banned and the lizards (including Charles) knew I couldn’t respond, they accused me of aligning myself with white supremacists, the KKK, and crypto-nazis.
Someone’s a few french fries short of a happy meal over there.
gclaghorn, those people over there have left reality (or, they have a LEFT reality).
It just become a huge bash fest against conservatives on that blog anymore. Either Charles has finally come out of the closet as a leftist, or he’s just scared shitless of Obama. I think it’s both.
Probably both. He’s in Commiefornia, so unlike those of us in the “BitterClinger” states, he’s probably surrounded by Obamabots in his ‘hood.
gclaghorn, what thread was that on?
You’re absolutely right, skippy. I was most polite in my debate with He Who Shall Not Be Named, and he banned me because I actually offered evidence to support my claims. He, however, kept saying: “I own a copy of the book! I own a copy of the book! Why didn’t you quote it? What’s your purpose here?!1!!!!11!11omg!!!1″ And then he banned me and sicced the flying monkeys on me.
I hope I have a new place to debate politicals in a civil fashion here. And I’m a web designer, so if you ever want something that Charles has, I can give it to you, like that fancy Ajax commenting system with the New Comment buttons.
I also know how to bypass the link-blocker he has in place (the one that blocks visitors who click on links from here).
I love meltdowns! haha
The Osprey:
It was on this thread:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/32872_During_Financial_Crisis_Obama_Sends_$1B_to_Gaza
Near the end.
Not sure why he gets his undies in a bundle over Glenn Beck – he could have just left it alone and written another(!) post about how much he disagrees with some on Intelligent Creation – maybe this time they’ll get on his lonely bandwagon.
You guys are right: increasingly irrelevant – and whiney
savage:
It wasn’t even really a meltdown. I just said, “I disagree with you on this”, I explained why, and I was willing to leave it there, but Charles smelled crypto-nazi fascist totalitarianism on me because I thought he completely lacked a sense of satire, so he banned me.
gclaghorn, I meant I love watching Charles Johnson slide into madness.
Whom Gods destroy, they first make mad.
-William Shakespeare
oh. heh.
BTW, Charles is sending the flying monkeys over the Aqsa thread.
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/showc/125/6767179
Oh my God, CJ is having a public meltdown!
And all his little bootlickers are going to have a meltdown with him.
Well, they’ll always have Kos to fall back on.
CJ is such a drama queen. The real question is, when is he NOT having a public meltdown?
“OMG! The world isn’t perfect after all! Waah! Waaah! I got hatemail again!”
I hope people are archiving this shit going on over at LGF
Uh oh. Newsjunky is about to get banned on 1.0. Just told Charles that there used to be comments on LGF advocating the banning of the hijab.
“I hope people are archiving this shit going on over at LGF”
I should. There’s an add-on for Safari that will automatically save a copy of any website you tell it too on a regular basis.
Also, Charles blocks the web archiver (web.archive.org) from accessing his site. Not like that comes as a surprise to anyone.
Lex, while I would not like to see you banned, I would like very much to see you write something of importance. In other words, I’d like to see an argument sometime.
LGF is a joke anymore. All over the internet everyone is laughing at those idiots.
savage, Bill Shakespeare also said:
LGF is insignificant except to only those who post there or are foolish enough to link it without a precursory perusal.
In the same thread linked, here’s one from Kilgore:
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43 Killgore Trout
2/23/09 7:09:20 pm reply quote 1downupreport
Ugh. That fucking bigot fascist Geert Wilders is calling for an “international first amendment” (no link). This guy is a serious problem.
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Man, boy, wouldn’t life suck if people had freedom of speech? I’m sure glad that Kilgore Trout is making sure that no one is able to speak freely unless they agree with him. I mean…. really….. he’s upset that Widers is calling for other countries to adopt freedom of speech for citizens??
MandyManners also thinks it is a horribe idea to allow people of the world to get the freedom of speech…..
I really don’t like the way CJ smears people and pastes a nasty label on them so easily. It’s really ugly.
And, aladamit, why can’t I have one of them new avatars that everyone here seems to be sporting?
From gclaghorn’s link:
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125 Charles2/23/2009 7:31:14 pm PST +5
Over at stalker blog II, the banned freak ’song_and_dance_man’ is advocating digging up the body of Aqsa Parvez, since the family won’t let Pamela Geller exploit her in death:
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Hello, Capt. Queeg, nice to know you read this blog, thanks for the outright proof, you dumb ass.
And S & D man never advocated digging up her body that I can find, just more typical Capt Queeg hysteria.
Oh, and Kilgore thinks that because Wilders pointed out that the Koran would qualify as hate speech under UK laws and would be banned if they were used equally……. that Widers wants to ban Islam and make everyone be christian and is dangerous.
song, they are calling you a deranged psycho over there. I’m not kidding.
Nice one, Lance.
Anastasia,
It’s very ugly how he will ban, then smear. It’s why I’ve been trying to plot my exit carefully.
Would that you could just delete your own account, but LGF is like the Hotel California, you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave! LOL!
mandy manners is someone I have met. she will deny it since she wants anonymity.
Is Mandy Ill-Manners as ill-mannered in real life?
mandy manners is someone I have met. she will deny it since she wants anonymity.
You really met that chick IRL?
savage
So what else is new.
They must get in line. There are many others waiting to abuse me.
My arguments about the the truth must be getting to them. Ha. I count it as a badge of honor.
Looks like Newsjunkie_KY is standing up for him/herself. The ban stick can’t be far off..
So now according the the lizards, Geert Wilders is an ‘effng fascist bigot’?
S&DMan, go to gravatar.com
You can link an image to the email address you use. I thought you wanted the black block because you didn’t get assigned an alien thingie (new theme won’t have commenter images).
Heh….. Nice. They think that WE have become creepy and evil.
heh.
The emperor has no clothes.
Lance just provided a key example. All of a sudden Geert Wilders is a “f***ing bigot fascist.” (Yes, I know that’s quoting KT, but …)
How did Wilders, who was not so long ago a hero at LGF, end up being eeeeeeeevil?
What changed? What did he do?
Did he fail to answer one of CJ’s e-mails or something? Did he have coffee with Robert Spencer?
It’s just plain nasty.
Oh, but they’re so open minded over there.
Unless you disagree with them, then they won’t even debate you. They’ll just wait until CJ gives you the boot and then they’ll talk behind you back. You have no way to respond.
Those little sissy losers would never come over here and debate, they’re all a bunch of chickenshits talking to themselves in an echo chamber.
Yes. And she is nothing like the person I met
Anastasia:
How did Wilders, who was not so long ago a hero at LGF, end up being eeeeeeeevil?
One person… Kejda Ghermani aka medaura
She has a lot of influence on Charles
Oh, and Irish Rose thinks that people should get a restraining order against song and dance man.
heh. that’s funny.
Anastasia: Did he fail to answer one of CJ’s e-mails or something? Did he have coffee with Robert Spencer?
’s funny cause it’s true! LOL!
savage
Just to amuse me could you provide the link?
I would love to inject the truth to the waylaid who might have been steered wrongly by the cherry pickers over there.
savage——- Ah. Medusa. A barrel of fun she is. Always stirring up discord.
And Charles falls asleep reading his kindle every night.
That drags up all sorts of pitifully sad thoughts. and that’s coming from Me.
Sharmuta is on the attack on someone who dared to make even a slight rib or joke about creationism/ID/whatever.
Kind of fascinating – mob mentality.
Hey Charles do you believe in God??
Ha – ha you can’t ban me again!
So now Geert Wilders is their “Goldstein” the object of their “3 Minutes Hate”. Sweet creeping Jesus, that place gets more like Oceania everyday. Orwell would get a kick out of LGF. There was something going on there in a recent thread, that reminded me of a passage in Orwell’s book about the Spanish Civil War, “Homage to Catalonia”. The lizards were talking about “tearing off the mask” and exposing “fascists”. Orwell describes in his book the a poster the Stalinists put up in Barcelona denouncing the non-Stalinist left party POUM as collaborators with Franco, which said “tear off the mask” with a POUM “mask” being torn off to reveal the “fascist” face underneath.
” No question now, what had happened to the faces of the pigs. The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again; but already it was impossible to say which was which.”
- George Orwell, Animal Farm
I know a bunch of those losers are lurking over here now, especially that idiot Kilgore.
Hey Kilgore, why don’t you say hi and debate for a while. You know we can’t go over there because your fascist leader has us all banned. But you’re free to come here and debate, or are you too much of a sissy?
Arwyn——- LOL! I’m not surprised it IS that silly. But honestly, how can you do a 180 degree turn in your opinion of someone on such a flimsy basis? Does CJ really expect anyone with half a brain not to notice the big flip-flop?
OH, and by the way.
LGF SUCKS! My computer froze up a couple times while I was trying to get those tiny bits of info.
What a horrible site. I can’t imagine that I was stupid enough to bog down computer systems loading it.
They must have heard and gathered their un-reasoned response to my argument to the Geller affair. Why else would they bother with me?
The left and the 1.0 followers are such a funny bunch.
Had I been there at this time I woulld have been banned and heralded all at once.
Stan has his minions and they are unaware of who they are.
Osprey—- Good one. Orwellian indeed.
Former LGF’er -
I wonder who put a bee in her bonnet today?
O:-)
Savage, why do you think Medaura has been able to exert such and influence on the Über Lizard?
S & D Man
Link from gclaghorn:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/showc/125/6767179
Ana: Does CJ really expect anyone with half a brain not to notice the big flip-flop?
me: what’s it matter? When they notice he just bans them. Come to think of it… his viewership has dropped in the toliet so fast that the NY Times feels good about themselves. THey do notice, you just don’t see it because they’re banned and comments deleted.
Osprey:
Savage, why do you think Medaura has been able to exert such and influence on the Über Lizard?
Rodan has a lot more on that Albanian harpy than I do. I think as well as he is that medaura is a Muslim plant. Spencer thinks so too.
Charles,
We used to be kindy of friendly. But I find your use of my words and your suggesting they are from a freak to be over the line. I ban you now.
HA
Lance…down the memory hole! Just like 1984! Unless he wants to take one of your posts and distort it to smear you, so you become the target of the “3 Minutes Hate”.
I can’t believe CJ said that about Song wanting to dig up the body.
I’m going to give him the benefit of the doubt and assume one of his minions has misinformed him, although he ought to fact-check it himself.
That’s just plain untrue, just an excuse for a hatefest. Why?
What the hell is wrong over there?
Alan Keyes is now under the bus, along with video from King Chuckie..
The Osprey…. remember the job that Winston had…… VERY interesting when one ponders that and considers the current mode of action at LGF of banning someone then deleting their comments.
Bar, gclaghorn… is he really crying about hate mail again?
For the record, I haven’t sent him anything since before I left. (the first time)
I slammed the door when I left today and said all I had to say.
It ain’t me.
Ana: What the hell is wrong over there?
me: They’re clueless idiots that, like all losers in life, think it is all about them and that their thoughts corner the market on ‘right’ness.
There was a time when quite a few lizards seemed to be on the verge of getting Charles to re-examine the Balkan wars in the light of the media fakery that occurred around GWB TANG Memo and Lebanon Fauxtoshops. But it came to an end when the Harpy showed up, and Killgore Carp was not fond of the topic either.
Its really sad, the lizard king says the moon is made from green cheese and the minions all believe it.
LOL, anti-idiot, NOT!
Arwyn
He said it was from someone in canada.
S&D, you can’t ban Charles. First of all, he’s too much of a sissy to post over here. Secondly, even if he did post here, this site allows dissenting viewpoints.
That’s why LGF has become such a joke.
I can post this:
The Messiah Will Come Again
…and not get banned. Not for the words, or the fact that the guy mastered the treble tone effect, and puts CJ’s musical skills to shame.
Night all y’all.
Song:
I’m pretty sure that guy would get voted off the island by the Blogmocracy tout de suite.
Lance….the upding/downding thing is like INGSOC meets a High School Clique. It’s ok for his minions to use it to pile on, but god forbid dissenters ding down the Inner Party!
It is apparent Charles is reading this blog. Hi long lost buddy, how is your brother and Nancy doing?
Your accusations are misconstrued and mindless. But that won’t matter to the insignificants who fail to research what you claim. Fact check you ass when you speak is a thing of the past.
* the freak speaks
OT- Don’t forget to contact politicos (especially your Senators) about getting the US out of Durban II !
This obsession CJ & Co. have with Song is downright psycho.
Maybe Capt. Queeg (Charles Darwin Johnson) was really unpopular in High School, so he decided to remake High School at LGF, then he can finally be the popular kid, no matter what!
Your banned if you don’t agree.
/
INGSOC meets a high school clique!
You’re on a roll tonight, Osprey!
N2L! Perfect exit
Hit’em where they hurt.
Skippy- to a point. This site started for those he won’t allow to to have an opinion. After posting the stories with a commenting system which is asking for opinions. Then provided tools to invite you to rate his threads or comments. And banned people when he didn’t like their rating of said threads or comments.
I’d vote to ban his ass in a minute. (and I’m a no-ban person
)
Does anyone second the motion?
(on edit: italicized the obvious for Charles)
Alan Keyes is the “Goldstein” of the hour now. Jeez, so many enemies of Big Lizard, it’s hard to keep up with them all.
Yes, CJ and KT are reading this. That’s how they get their jollies. But they’re too afraid to post here. That would be way to far out of their comfort zone.
Charles would actually have to debate because he wouldn’t have the power to ban someone. Hahaha, what a sissy.
Charles,
never worry, just give it a few years, I am sure those big man boobs will be popular someday!
Look on the bright side you still have time to invent the “bro-ssiere”.
It may help with the back pain.
Lance…spot on observation re: the memory hole. You were one of the folks who had all their comments deleted, IIRC.
One poster made a joke the other night about all the people and groups deemed unfit.
Said the GOP would be able to save a lot of money at their next convention by meeting in a phone booth!
There’s a reason why it seems that Chuck ‘no soup for you’ Johnson has his undies in a bundle. He got a little pissed when I asked him “Does someone have sand in their gina?”, but here is is a possible reason why he’s so cranky as of late. The Calif dating scene, perhaps? From the Kindle thread:
“273 Charles 2/23/09 8:02:10 pm reply quote
It really is much easier on the eyes. As a life-long reading addict, I am totally hooked on this device. I fall asleep reading on it every night.”
Every night Chuck? What about little Johnson? Bet he’d like to know more about Homo Erectus!
Chucky needs to get laid, me thinks.
Haha,
The non-fact checkers at lgf think I wan’t the body of Aqsa exhumed.
The moron pact mentality of Johnson is, well, abusrd to say the least.
So Charles, how is your brother and Nancy Brock doing?
keyword:
Chucky needs to get laid, me thinks.
Oh, I am sure Chuck takes it up the ass from Killgore. Butt buddies both!
Ok Savage. Didn’t need that visual.
You guys… reading that crap will rot your brain.
Seriously, yay-nay?
Come onnn! It’s all in fun. He’d never come over here and debate anyway, lol. You all know it!
They dug Homo Erectus up to campaign against Prop 8.
Yaza-
We’re not talking about an invisible bear.
My point is, just because Pam didn’t leave her URL on the headstone doesn’t mean that its more about what this woman would want than what Pam wants.
Does he get a cut if lizards order a Kindle through amazon?
I’m not saying that’s why he keeps touting it, but I was just wondering.
Chen, you think this woman would want her memorial to be 774?
Anastasia, if they click his links he does.
Big Man Boobs
Arwyn——– Heh.
Well I was just wondering because it seemed to me on the last Kindle thread that the shills, especially Sharmuta, were pratically writing a commercial for the thing.
You know the routine—– those “spontaneous” conversations they have from time to time that just don’t seem……well, they just don’t seem spontaneous!
Anastasia,
He’s got some sort of deal going with Amazon, but I’m not sure if he gets money pimping the Kindle.
I find it rather amusing the person to person rumor would be promulgated by Johnson himself. That is the lie that I suggest the body of Aqsa be exhumed.
It is yet another sign that he-the 1.0 Blogtator- is withdrawing from certain discourse that would find him a purveyor of lies, and because of that very thing, he would rather hide behind the adulation and acceptance ot those who love him rather than seeking the truth and just what was said.
Aladam, Johnson if you are reading this it must really piss you off, because it smacks dab of truth.
DJM-
As a Brave Nomadic Warrior of the Political Web ™ , and as a student of the noble Flame War Arts, I might as well point out that that this particular variant/tactic is known as Pithy Phrase.
Yet another creation thread over at the dump
S&D Man, he’s becoming Kim Johnson-Il, hiding out in his Hermit Kingdom, while all his sycophants supplicate in praise of Dear Leader.
Shall we vote CJ off the island?
ChenZhen——-
savage——- I thought they already had a creation thread today.
Or perhaps I could say, “Two in a day, eh?”
Arwyn Kafir said…
I don’t know. Then again, I don’t presume to. But if I were to go out on that limb, one could just as easily question whether she’d want someone like Geller deciding what should mark her eternal resting place.
“Darwin good, Ben Stein bad!”
Anastasia, there’s nothing spontaneous about it, the Inner Party members all communicate behind the scenes to set the tone for the Proles.
Anastasia…
Get off my website!
/sarc
savage—— LOL !
Savage, I was all for it upthread. But the flame sizzled. I think people want to dare him.
lol
I want to mock him mercilessly!
Osprey—- I definitely believe that. As I say, there are just too many times when those pseudo-spontaneous discussions crop up.
Well, I gotta hit the rack. Long day tomorrow.
Good nite kids
Good night, savage. Drive safely!
Dennis Prager still lets Chuckles on his show every once and a while. Which surprises me because he is a very Orthodox and I’ve heard him say “I believe G_d created the Heavens and the Earth.”
I think we should get Dennis to challenge Chuckles to a debate on Evolution vs Creation.
Think Chucky would be up for the challenge or do you think he’d run away like Al Gore did when Lord Monckton, Maggie Thatcher’s science advisor, challenged him to a debate on Global Warming?
The Osprey
I read the thread and am amused and offended all at once they would bring me up only to disregard what I had to say in the matter.
I proposed a sound argument that challenged- and it must have upset the apple cart over there and as an upsetter of the the status quo since it was met with such vehement opposition,-a non-credible assumption, Johnson at once felt the loss of comfort. and that is why he posted my words and attempted to discredit them,
So Johnson. Would you like another round? Would you like to meet me here?
Sweden-Israel Davis Cup could move to Stockholm
It’s ridiculous that they should have to do that. But whatever it takes for them to confine their crazies I’m all for.
Dennis, would be gracious and go for the clarity over agreement bit. All the while making him look silly. I think having him on during the Happy Hour may do CJ more good.
/
S&DM, is Chuck talking about this?
Tell me he doesn’t think you meant physically transferring custody? Digging her up and moving her?
Unless I missed something he’s completely missing something.
Sparky,
You’re probably right about that. CJ is always a dour looking f***, I don’t think I’ve ever seen a picture of him smiling, and from my interactions with him on his blog he seems to have no sense of humor whatsoever.
Rabbi Dennis could do him some good.
The Osprey, now I’d pay to see that.
(chuck’s ears perked up)
Johnson,
I will take your corn apart. Come on. Take the challenge. Or are you willing, once again, to let the better and lesser minds that sloven over you take the heat or the satisfaction?
You must know by now that is was not only that made your site. It was the readers that helped you along.
Sad, You have forgotten or never learned as much. Don’t ask. It;s a mystery.
Nite all,
I would like to thank the creators of this blog and wish it a happy evolution.
Catch you on the flip side, Sparky. Have a good night.
S&D, Chuckles will never come here and debate. He’s too much of a sissy to leave his own turf.
Arwym
Yes Johnson is quoting me again and misconstruing what I meant.
This is not the first time.
He has it out for me because I was one of the few that challenged him before he declared himself supreme purveyor of truth.
I find it somewhat amusing that he would gather my words to agitate against. Kisses to Johnson for that.
There is so much I can say about this but that is enough.
S&D, was that the quote he used? He can’t be that… nevermind.
He is missing something and is obviously unsure of what it is.
Charles
You have exposed yourself as a left leaning lunk.
…and none to late in my book
Still, keep reading here,… you may learn something.
It’s a joke over there. A few angry knuckleheads talking to each other and patting each other on the back, telling each other how smart they are.
They have become the laughing stock of the entire blogoshere.
Hey Chuckles, I know you’re reading this, why don’t you leave your turf and come over here and debate? Or are you skeeered? Hahaha! You won’t have your lapdogs backing you up, bwaahahaha!
What I have to say is still a pebble in the Johnson shoeworks.
Johnson must think my argument to be of such threatening merit that he attempted to strike it down with an absurd analysis of what wasn’t really offered by me and then used his somewhat skewed editorial opinion -cough- to read into what I said what was not there.
And the chorus belles rang – 0f course…
You are a dolt Johnson. Would you like to prove that otherwise?
I’m right here
Come on Chuckie. I’m right here.
He won’t come here. He’s a big man in the comfort of his little forum with his boot lickers, but he’s way too much of a sissy to leave the confines of his make believe world.
Sissy doesn’t even begin to describe the character (or lack thereof) of Charles ‘I’m a scientist’ Johnson.
aladamit Skippy
I so want a weird creature avatar. I have tried for 4 days now and have been unsuccessful with my 3 music notes. And that is not the only time of my defeat. aladamit
S&D, just plug in a different e-mail address and one of these little creatures should pop up automatically.
Skippy
The 1.0 Blogtator has come here. Or at least his blog licking minions and responding with reference -my face blushes .
They posted my words once again. and shazaam that is after the 30,000 post deletion episode.
The comfort of the Johnson is they have a horse they can ride, but little do they know that horse is really a mule.
S&DM, That’s absolutely hilarious how Chuckles is now quoting you from this blog. I salute you! =D
Ye quote, but nary a refutation.
What say thee Charles?
Hmmf… just what I thunk
wht
Esvovado
I am sure the 1.0 blogtator detests quoting me unless it is an attempt to lessen the blow of the truth, which is a thing to be absolutely detested where and when his concerns really lie or lay.
He, the non-original content blogger, zeroed in on an argument, a rather valid one of mine, and proceeded to suggest I forwarded a deed that was not and cannot be found in my words.
I think he was and is fearful of the logic or rather the truth of what I meant and saw his stance falling.
He is a shill for what sells him now.
I decided to read the 1.0 thread that referenced me so much.
Charles,… you dare to call me a freak? You must have found something about your own self that must be worked out. Maybe I can help.
And shame on all you others who took Johnson at his word and neglected to follow through with just what it was I was suggesting. Your fact checking the ass analysis has gone away like so many banned objectors.
Sad..really really sad. LGF has lost it’s way and that is due to the policy of the now commenting Charles.
Johnson. As you have probably read here, your blog was different until you started commenting. And now you have brought attention to this blog, once again, via me, and have allowed others to see a varying view other than yours.
Nice work at cutting and pasting again Johnson;
If any of you others have a question that might resolve the lies that are spreading about me ask me now up right and striaght forward.
I am not known as a liar so you will get the truth. Otherwise, shut up with the lies and tell the truth of what you really know about me.
S&D
While your aggravation with the misinterpretation of what you said is perfectly understandable, please, inviting CJ over for a ‘debate’ is totally pointless. If you were to sit back, take a deep breath, and think about it dispassionately, you’d realize that even if he and/or others from LGF came for a ‘debate’, it would really just be a chair-tossing argument.
It’s better to simply point out when LGF betrays what it formerly stood for and keep a white-hot spotlight on the activities of the world jihad and its enablers whenever we can, right? Let’s not get bogged down in a mud-wrestling match.
Locarno said…
Let’s not get bogged down in a mud-wrestling match.
Well now that all depends on who the babes are who are doing the mud-wrestling, and how much the tickets cost. And is it topless or nude mud-wrestling? j/k, sort of. Well, no, that’s a lie. {Holds sign} I will
work for foodwatch female nude mud-wrestling for free! Besides, I see CJ as more like the mud than a sparring partner in any mud-wrestling match. He’s learned to fling mud so well — all over himself, while the moron* minions gloriously wallow in the stuff.* There is a world of difference between the morons at Ace of Spades and the morons at 1.0. The morons at Ace, like myself, know they are morons and are proud of that fact; the 1.0 morons don’t known they are morons, and are proud of their servile ignorance.
Chen!! Nice to see you again!
sk–all I do is debate lately. I came here to get away from it all but many of my posts of late were being discussed here too. I also promised not to mention Pamela again here, so let’s just say that I agree with Chen that I don’t think she is the right person to memorialize any Muslim, especially one she didn’t know in life. There is just no doubt that she is anti-Muslim as that reporter wrote that angered her so.
I’m surprised that the thread is still going though, frankly, or is there a new one I missed somehow? I went over it again yesterday and there was nothing new on it. Listen, in this case I think that Charles is right. I disagree that she is some kind of hero, but won’t get into the whys of that here as promised. There’s plenty that I have written on this subject however so my position is quite clear.
So sk, on this one I’ll just not get banned (no, I know you guys wouldn’t do that), but I will say that I agree with Charles on this issue and with the lizards’ comments regarding Pamela, almost every single comment other than the statements that she is a drunkard, which I can correct here. She is certainly not a drunkard for all the other things I think of her, that’s one I know for a fact. I do, however, debate and say things of substance here sk. You just don’t seem to notice when it’s on a thread where I agree with the OP and then suddenly you remember this idea of yours that I have nothing of importance to say once I truly disagree, and everyone here has been clear on the right to dissent already.
P.S. what’s the deal with Medaura? She actually wrote me a rather nice email the other day and seems quite nice from that communication. I don’t read LGF threads all that closely in terms of who’s saying what, just what’s being said in general. Therefore I don’t know that much about her activities at LGF. Her recent post about Spencer was right on target IMHO though, but that was at her own blog. What is the problem with her for you guys?
P.S. do you guys use a traffic tracking device of some sort to see who’s coming here and by what referring link? I use Site Meter and find it very effective in this manner and highly recommend it. You can easily track who’s coming, commenting and the details about them. Do you guys track “lizard lurkers” in this way?
I find it interesting, for instance, that I have a regular lurker living in Bangladesh.
sk–the debate at my place is raging if you really want to see debate that includes me.
Lex, Agent of Chaos said…
regular lurker
Nothing to do with what you said, Lex, but more of a general comment.
Why are people who read websites without registering or posting called ‘lurkers’? It’s such a harsh, intimidating word, full of foreboding with negative implications. ‘To lurk in the shadows’ is to unsettle someone, to be threatening. Why can’t one just be a ‘visitor’? ‘Visit’ is a happy word, implying being welcomed, being offered a chair to sit a spell. I’ve seen them called looky-loos, too, which is fine as there’s no negativity, just a little humorous sarcasm. And why not have ‘drop-ins’, not ‘drive-bys’? ‘Drop-ins’ can easily become ‘drop-ings’ by inserting a ‘g’; ‘drive-by’ is so violent, so inherently negative. I tell ya, the innertubes are ruining the English language, And forget text messaging. That’s a hieroglyphics all its own.
/Old fuddy-duddy rant off
They call me Mister Luddite!
Damn it! This is just like LGF! I’m always late for the good threads!
Hi all. I’m one of those LGF members who keeps an eye out for other sites to visit when I finally get the CJ axe.
Did you guys see the brief exchange yesterday that featured Charles being an Arthur C. Clarke Troofer?
Someone mentioned Clarke’s pedophilia charges, and CJ declared that the whole thing was a conspiracy by Christians, and anyone who brought up the issue would be banned immediately. I couldn’t find the thread just now, but it was classic.
High King Nancy hath spoken.
Chen Zen, you really think this girl would want her murderers making decisions about her resting place?
Monkey Cat,
Seems like there are quite a few of us! Maybe we could co-ordinate a mass meltdown. LOL!
I don’t know exactly what medaura is doing to have such influence over Charles, but it’s obvious she has some sort of hold over him. She is the one who quashed any debate about Albania/Kosovo over at LGF, and started the anti-Spencer drumbeat. She’s also one of the most hysterical anti-religious, “How dare you criticize moderate Moslems?” posters. And didn’t she let the mask slip once, and refer to those who oppose Islam as “Crusaders” or something like that?
Yaza, Chen and Lex aren’t concerned with what she would want, evidently. Just that Atlas is involved so it HAS to be wrong.
Yaza said…
I don’t know exactly what medaura is doing to have such influence over Charles, but it’s obvious she has some sort of hold over him.
Probably throwing jihadi money his way. It ain’t called Liberal Green Footballs for nothing.
Ana: savage——- I thought they already had a creation thread today.
Or perhaps I could say, “Two in a day, eh?”
me: I collect 50 cents every time someone uses my patented “insta-ban” line of “Two in a day, eh?”!
S&DM,
“I am sure the 1.0 blogtator detests quoting me”
The most amusing part is his mass deletion of all your original LGF posts only to end up posting more of you again–himself. Yes, he is trying to trash you, but the irony is quite rich.
Guys – How about we kill this thread and move it to the open thread?
It’s up to you – no additional posts here will be stopped, deleted, or moved, but they might get more reads on the other thread:
http://www.littlegreenfootballs2.com/2009/02/24/open-thread-2/
Gotcha, Arwyn!
Actually, given that in life Aqsa Parvez feared her family, and wanted to life her live free of them, and the strictures of Islam, I think it’s safe to guess that what they wanted, and want, would not be at all what she would want.
Lex, really, want some cheese with all that whine? I thought you were going to drop the incessant Atlas bashing, at least for a bit.
Sorry, should have posted “live her life free of them”.
Osprey, sometimes I think that the instant bannings are his way of trying to prevent a mass meltdown. If nobody is allowed more than one or two posts that contradict or critique CJ/LGF, then they can’t build up any steam. Or maybe Charles is really quite mad and thinks that anything that doesn’t issue from his sacred keyboard is an apostasy to be smothered in its crib. More likely he’s just drunk or off his meds.
I notice that ChenZhen hasn’t responded to my question. Of course, that is his choice, but if we are talking motives here, the choice not to respond may be telling.
To make things easier, I’ll reprint my response.
ChenZhen, I don’t know you from Adam (though it seems you have a lefty blog, which tells me something), and I’m puzzled. In your latest blog entry on your own blog, you do not question the motives of those who championed the “Obama is the ape in question” narrative. You just disputed the narrative itself (rather well, I’d add). What, then, are the circumstances under which you start ruminating and spouting off concerning motives?
Personally, I’m just about as anti-Islam as one can get. But I’ll tell you this: if I did what Geller did, here would be my “motives.” I’d see a girl who tried to get away from the death cult that she grew up in and was killed for it. I would feel a special sympathy for someone like that, beyond the normal sympathy for a teenager murdered by her family. I’d also know that “honor killings” are a tool that Islam uses to maintain control as it infiltrates Western countries and spreads jihad. Thus, I would be motivated to lessen the effectiveness of this tool. Finally, there is a responsibility to do charitable deeds, and if I had the visibility of PG, I would certainly be inclined to use it for this purpose.
But now back to you, and to your own motives for questioning motives.
Yeah…Johnson has it out for me for sure. He has, more than once or twice, quoted me and subsequently trashed me. Before he deleted my 30,000 comments he referenced a comment I made a Jihad Watch.
I am pleased to be in the company of Geller and Spencer as a target of derision.
In the same thread linked, here’s one from Kilgore:
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43 Killgore Trout
2/23/09 7:09:20 pm reply quote 1downupreport
Ugh. That fucking bigot fascist Geert Wilders is calling for an “international first amendment” (no link). This guy is a serious problem.
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Man, boy, wouldn’t life suck if people had freedom of speech? I’m sure glad that Kilgore Trout is making sure that no one is able to speak freely unless they agree with him. I mean…. really….. he’s upset that Widers is calling for other countries to adopt freedom of speech for citizens??
Wow, to think, Wilders was hero at LGF once.
Charles Johnson is a thoroughly reprehensible individual.
I’ve been a LGF member for years, though I seldom post. I’ve noticed a downward spiral lately with that blog site. Not allowed to freely give opinions. It’s just become a hurrah for Charles sight. Pointless really.
Everyone is welcome to comment here at LGF2.
Please move comments to the Open thread here:
http://www.littlegreenfootballs2.com/2009/02/24/open-thread-2/
Yaza,
You said “I suspect one of the thing’s infuriating him is that his handlers assured him that his flip would be far more widely accepted than it has been. It hasn’t won him any followers from the DU, or Daily KOS, and it’s alienating those who once supported him. And he’s not really libertarian enough for libertarians.”
Doubtless the reason for the increasing number of open registration periods. Who do you think his “handlers” are?