CNN Meteorologist Chad Myers attacks the theory of Man made Global Warming. I agree with him, it’s delusional the Humans can greatly impact the climate. I’m against pollution and believe in reasonable environmental regulations. Hey I like clean air like everyone. However the Global Warming theory is an agenda put out by Leftists to impose their agenda.
CNN Meteorologist: Manmade Global Warming Theory ‘Arrogant’
Unprecedented snow in Las Vegas has some scratching their heads – how can there be global warming with this unusual cold and snowy weather?
CNN Meteorologist Chad Myers had never bought into the notion that man can alter the climate and the Vegas snowstorm didn’t impact his opinion. Myers, an American Meteorological Society certified meteorologist, explained on CNN’s Dec. 18 “Lou Dobbs Tonight” that the whole idea is arrogant and mankind was in danger of dying from other natural events more so than global warming.
The next day he forced to recant because of the uproar. As always Progressives silence those they disagree with. The real agenda of the Global Warming crew is to scare people into giving up liberties. Scare people by creating a threat. Also the Global Warming theory is way for the Corporatists like GE to make money by creating Green products.So there is some Corporatist-Green alliance on some issues. The fact is Earth’s climate is always changing!
This will be Charles’s new cause watch!
Tags: Global Warming, News, Politics
WrathofG-d got banned on Dec 18, 2008 “The Latest Face of Creationism in the Classroom”
263 Charles
12/18/08 5:45:18 pm 8
re: #261 WrathofG-d
Nana,
I made a comment about the posters on LGF, and Sharm misstated that it was an attack on Charles. Everyone knows the quickest way to get banned around here is to attack Charles. Thus I believe my statement was accurate. I am actually NOT looking for a fight, quite the opposite actually.
You know me well enough to know that, I would have thought.
Actually, there is a quicker way, and you just found it. I bid you adieu.
Bweep,
This thanks for that update! Charles will soon be jumping on the Global Warming cause soon!
CNN finally admits that Global warming is BS? Guess what it gets warmer in the summers and colder in the winters in the norther hemisphere, I doubt that CJ will jump on this fake science but who knows?
Avid,
The earth’s climate always changes. It was warmer 500 years ago and cooler 200. I believe we are entering a Global Cooling phase.
re: 4 Rodan I agree. I am still against giving the Jihadis more money. I think we should use liquid coal or some of our own domestic energy.
“As always Progressives silence those they disagree with. The real agenda of the Global Warming crew is to scare people into giving up liberties. Scare people by creating a threat.”
Right on! And mark my words, this will not create more jobs, as Obama has said. This will mean higher prices, taxes, fees, hidden costs, penalties, and any other way the politicians can possibly take our money, along with our liberty.
A fake threat to impose a nanny state. This is a Leftists wet dream. We must continue to fight this boondoggle at every opportunity if we want to keep our liberties.
I concur we should use more of our own energy. Coal, shale, oil, natural gas, nuclear…we have plenty to get us by as we transition to alternative energy sources.
Avideditor-
I posted this on an earlier thread but this is what CJ is sayin’ now about AGW which is ludicrous:
325 Charles
12/18/2008 3:44:25 pm PST
re: #318 Basho
On a slightly on-topic note… What’s with HotAir and Ace of Spades suddenly turning into climate denialist blogs? There’s about a post or two a day on that. The list of sane political blogs is shrinking =/
It’s going to be the next ugly fight on the right, because Obama is going to push hard for legislation and international commitments that are going to rub a lot of people the wrong way. (If he keeps his promises, that is.)
It’s absolutely true that some of the climate change people are dogmatic almost to the point of religiosity. But it’s also true this isn’t a really clear cut issue, there is evidence that cuts in both directions, and some of the people on the right haven’t behaved all that well, either. There’s been falsifying and distortion on both sides.
It’s a mistake to dismiss all the evidence for human-induced climate change. And ultimately, it’s a cause that conservatives ought to be able to get behind: responsible stewardship of the planet’s resources.
I would ask CJ this, When has anyone on the right falsified or distorted the truth about AGW? What evidence do the fearmongers have other than computer models fed suspect and incomplete information and forecasts that fail to come to pass? What kind of “scientists” refuse to debate this issue and indeed, say the debate is over? In real science, the debate should never over. Remember, these are many of the same people that predicted a “new ice age” in the ’70’s, and a “nuclear type winter” from the oil fires during the first gulf war.
Hell, no one can predict weather even one week from now with much accuracy and we are supposed to believe stuff predicted years and decades from now without any proof at all that CO2 causes climate change?
I posted this on another thread here:
Las Vegas blanketed in SNOW!
I know our Sura 109 buddy likes to distinguish between “climate” and “weather,” but I still find it funny that I’m supposed to believe in massive global warming, ice caps are melting and polar bears are going homeless, when parts of the USA that are usually quite hot to mild are now getting snow.
RDW-
Yeah people like Sura can’t comprehend weather patterns and climate change patterns. We had far hotter weather in the 1930’s followed by a very cold spell in the 40’s. It waxes and it wanes as it always has done.
If CO2 causes warming it follows that it should keep warming up, not get colder as is the case. So, obviously, CO2 doesn’t cause bupkis in regards to weather and climate.
Too bad Sura and the goramaniac are so emotionally invested in their idioic theory they fail to look at pesky facts and the very obvious snow in Vegas.
Too bad Sura and the goramaniac
“But…but…but…AAAAAAAAAALLLLLLLLLL GOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRE!” Right on schedule.
Just the FAQs. But keep burying your heads in the sand. The King Abdullah Islamic Scholarship Fund needs your money. Ka-CHING! Ka-BOOM!
Oh, and rainydayweather, from that site that I linked:
Understand the concept of global warming. Las Vegas is maybe 0.0001 percent of the globe.
But still, go on gassing up that Hummer. Ka-CHING! Ka-BOOM!
I’ll bet non of you eco freaks know that the theory of escalating global warming from the “theory” concerning life giving CO2 is one year short of being A QUARTER OF A CENTURY OLD!!!!!!!!!!!!! So for all you glowbull whiners out there that think a few years is not long enough, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,GET REAL.
I’ll bet non of you eco freaks
Yes, the very idea of not destroying the enviroment. All it does is sustain our lives. And anyway, Jesus will be here soon to do away with the libruls, MooseLimbs and Feelthy Queers (cue rainydayweather) so it doesn’t really matter how much poison we dump into the soil, water and air.
know that the theory of escalating global warming from the “theory”
Which meaning of “theory” are you using? The one used by scientists, or the one used by the liars who claim that the Earth is 6000 years old and that Jesus will soon do away with the libruls, MooseLimbs and Feelthy Queers?
concerning life giving CO2 is one year short of being A QUARTER OF A CENTURY OLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So how many hot years does it take to outweigh a single snowstorm in Las Vegas?
So for all you glowbull whiners out there that think a few years is not long enough blah blah blah
Go on and gas up that Hummer. Ka-CHING! Ka-BOOM!
re 13: I am not denying that there are some bad chemicals out there. CO2 is not one IMHO.
Sura,
When you going to take that $10K bet with the Russian scientists that the earth is actually not warming but cooling? Or is cooling now part of the disasterous global calamity too?
Wouldn’t that be easy money for a giant like you?
For all the dumb sides you take, and they are legend, this one is the dumbest and clued me to you really are a confused soul.
Compared to William in this tread Sura is a genius http://littlegreenfootballs2.com/2008/12/19/gaza-ceasefire-ends/#comments comment #5 is williams comment.
re 13: I am not denying that there are some bad chemicals out there. CO2 is not one
The dose makes the poison.
IMHO
Your opinion, humble or not, is beside the point.
When you going to take that $10K bet with the Russian scientists
Hadn’t heard of that one, but let me guess. Some dudes claiming to be scientists “offer” a chunk of money that they don’t have, soliciting “proof” that they will never fail to “refute” by moving the goalposts. Is that how it works? Or have the antiscience warriors finally come up with a new tactic?
Or is cooling now part of the disasterous global calamity too?
I guess they haven’t.
I know
our Sura 109 buddythe dictionary likes to distinguish between “climate” and “weather,”FTFY.
Augie Auer _18 February 07_
Imagining Climate Change
What a wonderfully powerful human trait is the imagination. No other form of animal life can think creatively as we humans…to dream up scenarios of passion…love, joy, hatred, anticipation. But distort our imaginative powers with a bit of fear & guilt instilled by mischievous science…and presto, you have the makings of the catastrophic global warming [ooops, I’m sorry], I mean, climate change hysteria.
This hysteria was reinforced on 2 February when the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) issued its ‘Summary to Policymakers’ (SPM); but the report on which the Summary is based, IPCC’s 4th Assessment 2007, will not be published until May. The problem is that the SPM was produced, not by the scientific writers and reviewers, but by a process of negotiation among unnamed bureaucratic delegates from sponsoring governments. Is it any wonder that this SPM attracted considerable media interest because of its alarmist dogma. The “Man bites dog!” stories always do.
So what is going on? Are we are a course of certain environmental Apocalypse? Of course we’re not. Here’s why.
Every one of the outcomes predicated on present & continued burning of fossil fuels by mankind are projections generated by computer simulations of future climatic patterns. They are not reality, not certainty, rather a kind of computer imagination. And even with all the mathematical manipulations, the climate models are only as good as the knowledge that is imputed to them. And as much as we would like to think that our knowledge of all atmospheric processes is substantial, the fact is it’s grossly lacking in both scope & thoroughness especially when it comes to looking decades into the future. This means that high levels of accuracy & certainty just can’t be achieved. Sometimes computer models can’t predict our local weather with useful certainty just 48 hours in advance.
Then there’s the matter of CO2…that harmful gas that Al Gore would have us believe is choking us all to death, that greenhouse gas which Jeanette Fitzsimmons (the leader of the NZ Greens) claims “the planet is groaning under the weight of”. Again, let’s set the record straight. To start with, CO2 is not a harmful, pollutant gas! It could best be described as an airborne fertilizer that humans exhale. Diesel exhaust, now that’s a pollutant.
The Earth’s constituent gases consist of 77% Nitrogen, 21% Oxygen with the 2% balance comprised of the so-called ‘greenhouse gases’. These trace gases are water vapour (averaging about 1%), followed by carbon dioxide (CO2) at a whopping 0.038% (usually reported as 380 ppm [parts per million]), methane at 0.00015% and even lesser concentrations of minor gases. So how can a gas that occupies a measly 0.038% of our atmosphere warrant so much attention? That’s what needs to be challenged.
The greenhouse effect is a near–miraculous process that carefully regulates the temperature of the planet. By absorbing & re-radiating downward some of the heat energy that would escape to space from the Earth, greenhouse gases effectively keep the average temperature of the planet near 15C rather than at (minus) –18C. So the greenhouse effect is required for life!
Water vapour is, by far & away, the most dominant and naturally-produced of all greenhouse gases, contributing to a massive 95% of the beneficial warming process. Within the remaining 5%, there isn’t much clout available for carbon dioxide; it only contributes a meagre 3.5% or so. And when this input is subdivided into naturally produced & anthropogenically sourced, just under 97% comes from Nature, just over 3% from mankind. This means that the human contribution of CO2 to the Earth’s greenhouse warming process is an inconsequential 0.12%. Even if CO2 doubled in the atmosphere due to man’s activity, its impact on greenhouse processes would remain miniscule.
Furthermore, the efficiency of CO2 as a greenhouse gas does not increase with concentration, as the Al Gores of the world tell us. Its effectiveness obeys the law of diminishing returns. Only the first 150ppm or so is all that is needed for the planet’s greenhouse effect to operate near maximum. Additional carbon dioxide only serves as a spent force.
Because of the dominance of a simple, Earth–unique gas, water vapour, we could say that mankind could not alter our climate if we wanted to! Since carbon dioxide is not the problem, there is no need for any mandatory reduction of planetary CO2 or punitive taxations to prevent its use. Note that this not a proposal to abandon our responsibility of stewardship of the planet’s atmosphere.
Scientists have an ethical responsibility to be truthful in their research, to avoid being arrogant, intimating & intolerant. This is not intended as a criticism of all those involved in climate research, but it is directed in some regard to politicians & policymakers who, in interpreting the ‘science’, tell us “You have a problem, we can solve it & no other opinion matters”. They communicate through a seemingly biased media emphasizing unsubstantiated fright & sensationalism: e.g., a rise in sea-levels that would inundate Pacific island nations. “We must act now!”, the global warming zealots scream. Yet I recall my Dad warning about high–pressure salesmen with the ‘It must be done now’ pitch. Where’s David Russell ( the ‘NZ Consumer’ watchdog) when you need him?
Recall the admonition of Robertson Davies, a 20th century journalist/novelist: “Every man is wise when attacked by a mad dog; fewer when pursued by a mad woman; only the wisest survive when attacked by a mad notion.” Imagine that!
Prof. Auer has enjoyed a distinguished career in meteorology spanning 47 years which has included nearly all facets of meteorology including analysis and forecasting (corporate and governmental), teaching at the tertiary level, airborne research, weather modification, air pollution, legal and forensic consulting, extended range prediction, and media presentations.
His interests in seasonal / climate forecasting began in the mid 70’s in response to the concerns of agricultural, forestry, and ski industries’ business people worried about the impacts of weather on their planning and operations.
Augie first visited New Zealand living in Wellington during a sabbatical leave from university life in 1984-85 and working with the former New Zealand Meteorological Service.
Before emigrating with his family to New Zealand in 1990, Mr. Auer retired after 22 years of service as a Professor of Atmospheric Science at the University of Wyoming , U.S.A. , with tenure both as an educator and research meteorologist. His research topics are published in more than 75 articles in professional meteorological journals.
From 1990 to 1998, Augie served as Chief Meteorologist for the MetService. He was responsible for the improvement and updating of the technical competence of the MetService weather forecasting staff. He often was called upon to serve as liaison between the media and the MetService during major weather events.
He is probably best known from his presence on National Radio commenting on weather events, and most certainly as a former member of the TV3 News team presenting the weather each weekday evening as a part of “3 NATIONAL NEWS”.
A true champion of the anti-Goracle hysteria is Andrew Bolt.
I wish we could clone him. He is one of the few fearless writers on this topic. If you want great opinion pieces check his ‘blog (almost daily).
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/
This piece was cross-posted at Gateway Pundit:
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/andrewbolt/index.php/heraldsun/comments/column_the_10_worst_warming_predictions/
BTW, you guys are doing a great job
#16 avid
I don’t know about Sura being a genuis there or anywhere else- he was being a jerk because he accused me of being a homosexual in that thread.
I didn’t even have anything to do with that thread; I have no idea what Sura brought up my screen name there.
My post #21 correction-
“what” should be “why”
(’don’t know why he brought me up’)
re 21 Did you read William’s comment? Sura is not a troll like William. I just said, “Compared to William in this tread Sura is a genius” . That in no way endorsing any of Sura’s beliefs or comments just an observation. If you disagree rainydayweather, tell me why.