Putting aside the usual blogging for a moment, I would like to remind everyone of the dangers of the latest “fad” drug out there. The Young are especially susceptible, as peer pressure may get the best of even the most easy-going teen. But the drug could also be attractive to older people, many of whom are facing difficult times and may be searching for an inexpensive release.
Gerin Oil is virtually cost-free. It can be produced and distributed with minimal expenses or expertise. And it can be HIGHLY intoxicating. Victims of this drug have been known to turn on family and friends. Men will beat their wives while under the influence, and force them to partake in the drug. In areas where the drug is legalised – especially in the Middle East where the drug has an almost cult-like following, older men will sexually abuse children, even as young as ONE day old. In some cases, paranoid fathers have brutally slaughtered their own daughters. Children with parents under heavy influence of Gerin Oil often grow up resentful of others, and have a incurable case of narcissism. And in more extreme cases, victims will go on violent rampages, killing anyone in their path.
Gerin Oil addiction may also be hereditary.
Though, Gerin Oil is not always harmful. In some cases, it can actually be beneficial depending on the circumstances of the individual. However, as with any drug with the potential to harm, great care should be taken when introducing Gerin Oil to a regular regimen of diet, spirituality, education, and exercise.
Stay on guard.
Gerin Oil (or Geriniol to give it its scientific name) is a powerful drug which acts directly on the central nervous system to produce a range of symptoms, often of an anti-social or self-damaging nature. It can permanently modify the child brain to produce adult disorders, including dangerous delusions which are hard to treat. The four doomed flights of September 11th 2001 were Gerin Oil trips: all nineteen of the hijackers were high on the drug at the time. Historically, Geriniolism was responsible for atrocities such as the Salem Witch Hunts and the massacres of Native South Americans by Conquistadores. Gerin Oil fuelled most of the wars of the European Middle Ages and, in more recent times, the carnage that attended the partitioning of the Indian subcontinent and of Ireland.
Gerin Oil intoxication can drive previously sane individuals to run away from a normally fulfilled human life and retreat to closed communities of confirmed addicts. These communities are usually limited to one sex only, and they vigorously, often obsessively, forbid sexual activity. Indeed, a tendency towards agonized sexual prohibition emerges as a drably recurring theme amid all the colourful variations of Gerin Oil symptomatology. Gerin Oil does not seem to reduce the libido per se, but it frequently leads to a preoccupation with reducing the sexual pleasure of others. A current example is the prurience with which many habitual ‘Oilers’ condemn homosexuality.
As with other drugs, refined Gerin Oil in low doses is largely harmless, and can serve as a lubricant on social occasions such as marriages, funerals, and state ceremonies. Experts differ over whether such social tripping, though harmless in itself, is a risk factor for upgrading to harder and more addictive forms of the drug.
Medium doses of Gerin Oil, though not in themselves dangerous, can distort perceptions of reality. Beliefs that have no basis in fact are immunized, by the drug’s direct effects on the nervous system, against evidence from the real world. Oil-heads can be heard talking to thin air or muttering to themselves, apparently in the belief that private wishes so expressed will come true, even at the cost of other people’s welfare and mild violation of the laws of physics. This autolocutory disorder is often accompanied by weird tics and hand gestures, manic stereotypies such as rhythmic head-nodding toward a wall, or Obsessive Compulsive Orientation Syndrome’ (OCOS: facing towards the east five times a day).
Gerin Oil in strong doses is hallucinogenic. Hardcore mainliners may hear voices in the head, or experience visual illusions which seem to the sufferers so real that they often succeed in persuading others of their reality. An individual who convincingly reports high-grade hallucinations may be venerated, and even followed as some kind of leader, by others who regard themselves as less fortunate. Such follower-pathology can long post-date the original leader’s death, and may expand into bizarre psychedelia such as the cannibalistic fantasy of ‘drinking the blood and eating the flesh’ of the leader.
(Hat Tip: Shiva & Avideditor)
LOL at Richard bloody Dawkins indiscriminately bashing the entire concept of religion yet again.
And if the religious beliefs denounce drug abuse, what is Dawkin’s response? I could guess something along the lines of “umm, ahhh, well, duhhhhh”. The New Testament tied drug abuse directly into it’s definition of “Occult or Sorcery”. The Greek word used is “Pharmakia” for good reason, because the parallel of drug abuse with bizarre destructive spirituality was observed then also.
Islam is a Drug!
I have been addicted to “Gerin Oil” for many years. I find it’s effects to be mind clearing and soul quieting. In addition, it’s side effects include love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith, meekness and temperance.
Richard Dawkins…. isn’t that the radical atheist Lefty that Charles cuddles up to in his insane insistance that we Christians are trying to set up a theocracy?
so now religion is all false and any ’spiritual experiences’ are attributed to drugs?
heh.
how high is Dawkins?
Does St Dawkins have proof that the mass murderings terrorist he refers to was hopped up on drugs?
Or is this a “We’re at war with Eurasia and we’ve always been at war with Eurasia” type of thing?
Substitute the word Liberals for Gerin Oil and ideology for drug and it helps to explain “progressives” too.
Dick Dawkins is certifiable flake. I guarantee you this clown is slowly losing his mind. He’ll be scorned in 30 years like Jim Jones of the Peoples Temple. Hopefully, he’ll march a bunch of these neo-pagans out with him like Jimmy did.
One of the best scenes from a movie was Ben Stein making this fraud look like a complete dumbass in ‘Expelled’. Worth the price of admission for the last three minutes alone.
That and the movie pissed Charles the Bulbous off…
What more could you ask?
Charles the Bulbous. I like it. It is easier (and more pc) than my fave: Charles the walking vagina.
Comment by LanceKates
Does St Dawkins have proof that the mass murderings terrorist he refers to was hopped up on drugs
Dawkins is not claiming they where hopped up on drugs, He is pointing out that they where hopped up on (gerinoil, anagram for religion) which he liken to drugs, much the same as people liken television to opium
Opium in small doses is not harmful, he same as television.
How in the world besides a bunch of academician libs spinning, did Richard Dawkins become anything of substance? He’s a “progressive” fixture of the media, an anti-war Vietnam flake, a Berkeleyite, Code Pink type, American hatin’ POS, who apparently can’t stay married long enough to hold his own life together. He gets his PHD from Oxford and all the sudden, he is larger than life? He’s probably a doper, a failure at marriage, a failure at fatherhood, and a general loser in life.
If I ever had the displeasure of attending one of his bullshit atheistic sermons, I’d stand up and point fingers at him while laughing.
shiva – Dawkins is not claiming they where hopped up on drugs, He is pointing out that they where hopped up on (gerinoil, anagram for religion) which he liken to drugs, much the same as people liken television to opium
Ahh…. ok… I guess I am not ‘high brow’ enough to have gotten his little joke. Of course, if one looks a little more long term, I guess the joke is on him.
Richard Dawkins…. isn’t that the radical atheist Lefty that Charles cuddles up to in his insane insistance that we Christians are trying to set up a theocracy?
Well, lessee. Between hatin’ on them Feelthy Queers, the rantings of James Dobson (who needs to focus on his own damn family), “abstinence only” and pushing
creationism“intelligent design”…no, the Christian Right (which is neither) isn’t trying to set up a theocracy.It just looks like theocracy, goose-steps like theocracy and Sieg-Heils like theocracy.
(To answer the inevitable cry of Yew Just Godwinned Yerself: it ain’t a Godwin if it’s true. If the jackboot fits, wear it.)
Sura,
If we Christians were really as evil as you like to believe, rest assured your fat head would be attached on at a San Fran bathhouse with your with your rectum pointed at the perfect angle for any Prop No voter to mount.
Comment by LanceKates – Ahh…. ok… I guess I am not ‘high brow’ enough to have gotten his little joke. Of course, if one looks a little more long term, I guess the joke is on him
If we look a long way back ,and also at the present, and what we are seeing with the practitioner of is this little joke is not a very funny joke, it fact, as I see it this Gerinoil essay is not only brilliant, but deadly serious, when he mentions it was Amrozi,s smile that prompted him to write it
In it he coins a new term, Gerin Oil (which is, as smart readers can spot, an anagram of ‘religion’) and then goes on to list all the evils associated with it. The essay is also a concise summary of theological concepts behind all the major religions like after-life, hell, redemption etc
Strong doses of Geriniol can also lead to “bad trips,” in which the user can suffer morbid delusions and fears, notably fears of being tortured, not in the real world but in a postmortem fantasy world. Bad trips of this kind are bound up with a punishment culture which is as characteristic of this drug as the obsessive fear of sexuality already noted. The punishment culture fostered by Gerin oil culminates in the sinister drug-induced fantasy of “allo-punishment”—the belief that individuals can and should be punished for the wrongdoings of others (known on the in-group grapevine as “redemption”).
This is his hilarious take on “prayer” and willful disbelief against the evidence from the real world so prominent in religious people:
Medium doses of Gerin oil, though not in themselves dangerous, can distort perceptions of reality. Beliefs that have no basis in fact are immunised, by the drug’s own direct effects on the nervous system, against evidence from the real world. Oil-heads can be heard talking to thin air or muttering to themselves, apparently in the belief that private wishes so expressed will come true, even at the cost of mild violation of the laws of physics. This autolocutory disorder is often accompanied by weird tics, hand gestures or other stereotypies, for example rhythmic head-nodding towards a wall.
And finally, how this evil is being sustained and propagated by powerful institutions all over the world:
You might think that such a potentially dangerous and addictive drug would top the list of proscribed substances, with exemplary sentences handed out for trafficking in it. But no, it is readily obtainable anywhere in the world and you don’t even need a prescription. Professional pushers are numerous, and organised in hierarchical cartels, openly trading on street corners and even in purpose-made buildings. Some of these cartels are adept at parting clients from their money. Their “godfathers” occupy influential positions in high places, and they have the ear of presidents and prime ministers. Governments don’t just turn a blind eye to the trade, they grant it tax-exempt status. Worse, they subsidise schools with the specific intention of getting children hooked.
Over the last few years I have spent a lot of time searching for things to put on islam to put into my Blog. Now I must admit I found quite a lot of things about other religions, but as my blog was about islam I did not put them up on my blog. But most religions have a rather murky past
One example is the Vatican and how many millions of dollars it has paid out in damages, and how much it has paid in efforts hush up all the sex scandals against children by its clergy. Into put this onto another level, how much of this finance is from the gold that was plundered from the south Americas or from what was plundered from the Jews and Serbs the Nazis Catholic/muslim death camps in the Baltics.
And lets not forget that the crusades had no problem fighting each other when the where not busy killing muslims and murdering jews
I do not know much about Dawkins,
I agree with you, Shiva.
Also readers should notice Dawkin’s assessment that, in small – or controllable doses – the “drug” can be beneficial. Instead, most our readers seems to jump to the conclusion that *any* dose is somehow demonized. That simply isn’t the case.
Dawkins is suggesting that *religious extremism* is detrimental, not religion itself.
Dawkin’s suggestion:
Jesus’ observation about the religious “fanatic” John the Baptist:
Just my suggestion…
And how many people did John the Baptist murder in the name of his god?
well then, let’s just get rid of religion and only worship man.
THAT has a good track record in Human History.
Unless you like living.
Over 100 million people killed in the atheistic Communist Soviet Union.
I’m just sayin…
“Men never commit evil so fully and joyfully as when they do it for religious convictions.” ~Blaise Pascal
Do tell me in which religion women fair as equals to men? If religion is so great, why do they all depreciate women?
I have often wondered what is more pathetic. To focus everything and everyone on race, or gender?
Both are apparently equal in their involvement and propagation of perpetual victimization and excuse making.
Nobody talks so constantly about God as those who insist that there is no God. ~ Heywood Broun
In some awful, strange, paradoxical way, atheists tend to take religion more seriously than the practitioners. ~ Jonathon Miller
It amazes me to find an intelligent person who fights against something which he does not at all believe exists. ~ Mohandas Gandhi
Atheists express their rage against God although in their view He does not exist. ~ C. S. Lewis
None that I’m aware, though John was killed by a pagan playing Jew for a time…
Does that score one for Christianity, or is it still equally as patriarchal and misogynistic as say that lovely communistic country of North Korea?
Contrary to what “Sura” posted above, ID (Intelligent Design) is not Creationism in another wrapper.
Some ID proponents are very hostile towards “Young Earthers,” those who believe that the Genesis account should be taken literally.
Meanwhile, many of your Creationists take issue with the fact that ID shies away from identifying the God of the Bible as the Designer; instead, they refuse to state Who or What is the Designer.
Regarding comment #21,
Do tell me in which religion women fair as equals to men? If religion is so great, why do they all depreciate women?
I’m a woman and a Christian. If Christianity were as truly sexist as some have claimed it to be, I would not be one.
Visit CBE (Christians For Biblical Equality).
Once on that page, go to the left-hand column under “Resources,” and click “Free Articles.”
I also recommend the book “Good News For Women” by Christian author Rebecca Groothius.
#22 Tex, spoken like a real man…
I’m surprised you didn’t condemn women for bitching about the pain associated with menstruation, since, being a man and all (I’m assuming from your nick) you know all about women suffering…
#24 tex, you used John the Baptist as an example of an “extremist”, not me. IMO, an person isn’t an extremist until their actions are harmful to another. So, in my opinion, John the Baptist was not a religious fanatic.
More about women and Christianity:
Christian Think Tank > Topics Page > Scroll down page, look for W > Women
Examples of topics covered (there are many more than what I’m listing here):
>Women, access to God.. The early church was ‘by, for, about MEN–women weren’t significant players (and ESPECIALLY not leaders).”
>Women, access to God…Weren’t women always kept separate from the men–They weren’t even allowed in the Temples or synagogues.
>Women, access to God…. God is ALWAYS portrayed as a male–women had no way of identifying with Him”
>Women, access to power….The patriarchy system (God condoned) subjected women by restricting their access to social/cultural power.”
>Women, and patriarchy……Why do men get all the glory in the bible? Why are women only minor characters?!”
>Women, objections….. Did God choosing to be incarnated as a male implicitly communicate a devaluation of females?
#25 rainyday – modern Christianity may not be sexist, but in its earlier days, women were treated little better than muhammadan women.
And how many people did John the Baptist murder in the name of his god?
Comment by DJM — December 3, 2008 @ 2:33 pm
I can count how he murdered on no fingers. Is the insinuation here that religious people have a tendency to murder? Just wait, this will mutate into a “Hitler was a Christian too”.
how “many” he murdered I meant to say.
#29 DJM, I have to disagree. Even in the Old Testament period, women were given various rights and legal protections as spelled out in the various laws Moses handed down.
That some men (who may have claimed to be believers) may have chosen to disregard those laws is not the fault of God, Judaism/Christianity or the Scriptures.
Jesus of Nazareth had to repeatedly correct the flawed misinterpretations of the Scriptures held by the ruling religious groups of his day (such as the Pharisees).
No, revparadigm, my point was the opposite.
Tex suggested John was a religious extremist, praise by Jesus.
I questioned how many John the Baptist had killed, knowing it was zero, to illustrate the difference between a pious man and a fanatic.
#32 rainyday – women were far from equals in early Christianity (or any religion). Even today, female priests are rare and given the same respect and status as male counterparts.
How can you read Ecclesiasticus 7:26 and say women are viewed as equals?
Christian leader Martin Luther stated, “If they [women] become tired or even die, that does not matter. Let them die in childbirth, that’s why they are there.”
In religious history, women are nothing but incubators. They are abused and accused of all ills of man.
Granted, in modern times women do get more respect. But if we are going to discuss religious history, lets be truthful.
#33, DJM:
I don’t recall the Scriptures mentioning that John the Baptist killed anyone, but I guess one could say that perhaps he was known to be somewhat of an extremist for his day, or maybe the people of his time period thought of him as extremist.
John the Baptist lived in the wilderness, wore non-standard clothing, was very vocal of his criticisms of those in political power, etc. (Where-as the religious big-shots of the day walked around in fancy robes, etc.)
I think that that was what Tex Taylor was alluding to.
I think where you and Tex may be getting mixed up here is…
I’ve seen non-believers equate any and all calls for restraint on certain behaviors (such as drinking alcohol, limits on sexual activity, etc) -especially when those calls for restraint are based upon religious reasons / Scriptures- as being “extremist.”
You may not be in that group yourself, but I’ve seen lots of atheists / agnostics/ secular humanists who are like that. They behave as though anything having to do with God and religion is “extremist.”
From what I’ve seen of some of your posts, DJM, you’re not like that. You have not struck me as being overly hostile or bigoted against Christianity or other religions.
#35 rainyday – John the Baptist may have been an ‘extremist’ in his day, but that is a far different standard than an “extremist” in our modern day.
I appreciate your other comments. I honestly have no animosity against any other religion (except islam) as long as their views are not imposed on me.
#34. You’re blaming God and the Scriptures for the faults of men.
Jesus of Nazareth treated women with respect. It was not His fault that the Judaism of His day had watered down or twisted their Scriptures to excuse inequality of females.
The thing about ’should women be preachers’ etc is an intra-mural debate in Christianity.
I am a biblical egalitarian, as opposed to being a “complementarian” (I believe verses that state that women should not be leaders etc have been misinterpreted). If interpreted correctly, the New Testament is very liberating for women.
See my link above to CBE (Christians for biblical gender equality) in post 25, read their articles.
Here’s more about it:
Women in the Heart of God
Also, I’m not a Roman Catholic. I disagree with many, many aspects of their denomination and doctrines to begin with, so I cannot and will not defend their views about women preachers, etc.
About the only areas I’d defend them is where they are biblically correct (e.g., deity of Jesus; his literal resurrection, etc)
No DJM,
My point to an misandrist (is that what the M stands for?) like you, John was considered quite radical, even by the Jewish factions of his time. Yet, Christ called him the greatest among men. Your statement was radical “anything” of religion is bad and I was making the point using Christ’s wisdom that your statement was false, or at the very least incomplete and you should rethink that.
And since you say all women are thought of as lessor in every religion, perhaps you have forgotten the stories of Eve, Sarah, Rachel, Deborah, Ruth, Mary (mother), Mary Magdalene, etc…it was when all the men proved to cowardly to confront the Roman Empire, two women who met Christ first at the Resurrection.
But you did give me a chuckle with this:
Being I’ve had to raise two teenage girls for the most part by myself the last four years, I’ve learned more about menstrual cycles than I ever thought possible.
Man, I wish I had a preview key…I forgot Esther, Rahab and Abigail. I am sure I could come up with more great women of the Bible.
#38 Tex: “Being I’ve had to raise two teenage girls for the most part by myself the last four years, I’ve learned more about menstrual cycles than I ever thought possible.”
Lol! You have my sympathy…
Just for the record, when I refer to an “extremist”, I’m not thinking about the churchgoer who shouts, “PRAISE JESUS!” during sunday sermons or even the Christian fruitloops of the Westboro Baptist. In my mind, an “extremist” is someone who would wish or cause harm to another person just over differing religious beliefs. Someone willing (or wishing) to saw your head off with a dull knife is an example of an extremist, imo. Someone who is simply an undeterred believer, I don’t think should fall into that category.
#37 rainyday – God is supposed to be perfect, so the presentation or interpretation of scriptures shouldn’t be an issue. I’m sure there are ways of interpreting scriptures to support or condemn the participation of women within the church. The problem is in practice.
It’s nice to see the promotion of equality, but that really doesn’t change traditions, does it? At least not as quickly as it should. It’s taken 2000 years for women to gain the equality and respect of men, but it still isn’t at the same level.
I don’t think men and women are equal. I think they are clearly different. But that’s not to say I don’t belief one is superior to the other. Religion, historically, has made men superior over women. To anyone, if that’s your belief, so be it. But if it isn’t, you must question religious theory.
#38 Tex – And no, I don’t hate men. Women would be lost with men. But it would be nice if men would acknowledge they, too, would be lost without women.
Of course we boys would be lost without women. As a man, let me state for the record my five favorite people in the world are women: (1) mom, (2) wife, (3) two daughters, (4) sister.
Do you know why men would be lost without women? Because God wanted it that way…
I think the huge difference in comparing Christianity & Islam concerning women would be..Christianity is big on specific roles for each gender, in which modern liberalism views as oppression, which in turn the bible calls missing the mark of God’s design by rebelling against this. Examining the bible without without a preconceived bias, you will find, in my opinion – teachings and even entire books centered upon women who were commended for their faith & courage. [Esther being one, who is credited for saving the entirety of the Jewish nation in captivity in Babylon with what happened between her and King Xerxes].
Now compare that to the Quran. I don’t know of any Islamic traditions exalting women, period. I just wish those same liberals who wink at Islam would apply the same critical examination to it that they do with Christianity. The hypocrisy is quite apparent.
Comment by LanceKates
Over 100 million people killed in the atheistic Communist Soviet Union.
The Soviets have committed a democide of 61,911,000 people. This staggering total is beyond belief. But, it is only the prudent, most probable tally, in a range from an highly unlikely, low figure of 28,326,000 and an equally unlikely high of 126,891,000 This is a range of uncertainty an error range–of 97,808,000 human beings.
This does not make it any better for the millions killed in religious conflicts.
I tend to think that Monotheism in religions is the culprit,
Monotheism means the worship of the One True God.Unfortunately there’s some confusion over who the One True God actually is. Christians believe one thing, Muslims another, and the Jewish faith is different yet again.
It seems that Christians, Jews, Muslims, Protestants, Catholics, and Seventh-Day Jehovah’s Mormons all devoutly worship the same Supreme Being.
But the devil is in the details and, apart from confessing their devotion to the One True God, they can’t agree on anything else. Which is very sad as this has caused a lot of unnecessary pain and suffering.
Whether in religion, business or Communism, monopolies can be a very bad thing. Monotheism seems to bring out the worst in some people.
man me and my typos…haha.
Its not “my teaching”…I wanted to say “you will find, in my opinion – teachings…” I think I’ll call it a night, the relaying between what I’m thinking and typing are taking detours.
Jews through out history did not commit genocide against others. If some Jews did I would be the first to condom their actions. I think it is an insult to lump all of the religions together. Where is Islam’s outrage against jihadist. I do not see it. If you think all religions are evil more power to you, I just feel bad for you. When you torture and kill people in a Chabad because of their religion you crossed the line IMHO. I do not like many religions but all the jihadist seem to be Islamic. I do not mind the Mormons knocking on my door at least they are not blowing themselves up trying to kill me. So I respect the Mormons even though their faith is not for me. Rodan is catholic but he condemns many terrible things the church has done and he does not want to kill me, I respect that and do not question his religion and faith. I have no problem with non militant atheist. But I do have a problem with militant ones like Stalin, Polpot, and Hitler.
I hope my comment is not deleted. Please email me if you think it should be, If the readers have not noticed I have not been posting for that reason.
Comment by avideditor
My comment is all inclusive, and there some mention of genocide in the OT.
I would like to point out that the Jews have suffered a lot because of religion. And my comment was not meant to be pointing the finger at any one religion.
Of the three main Monotheist religions, Jews do have the best and cleanest record.
shiva said: The Soviets have committed a democide of 61,911,000 people. This staggering total is beyond belief. But, it is only the prudent, most probable tally, in a range from an highly unlikely, low figure of 28,326,000 and an equally unlikely high of 126,891,000 This is a range of uncertainty an error range–of 97,808,000 human beings.
This does not make it any better for the millions killed in religious conflicts.
I say: Well, I guess if one were to keep a tally, it seems that it was the athestic Communism that really cornered the market on slaughtering people.
shiva said: I tend to think that Monotheism in religions is the culprit,
I say: 100 million killed by the Soviet Union, and you think that religion is the culprit.
You do realize that your comparison more or less lumps Christianity in with Islam. Please say you don’t think that is so. “I’ll pray for you, brother.” and “Die Infidel!” are not the same thing. When using your broad paintbrush to demonize christianity, you do realize that you put it in the same kettle as islam.
If that were REMOTELY true, neither you nor I would be here.
Sura,
If we Christians were really as evil as you like to believe, rest assured your fat head would be attached on at a San Fran bathhouse with your with your rectum pointed at the perfect angle for any Prop No voter to mount.
OK, let me see if I have this straight. Supposedly I’m a Feelthy Queer® because I think that Feelthy Queers® have the right to equal protection under the law. (”We hold these truths to be self-evident, yadda yadda yadda.” What a commie pinko liberal, that Thomas Jefferson.)
Yet it’s Tex Taylor here who’s having the fantasies about a San Francisco bathhouse and anal penetration.
And yes, Tex, that’s the least that the likes of James Dobson (who needs to focus on his own damn family) will do, if they ever get any real power.
(”But…but…but…teh MOOSE LIMBS!” in 4…3…2…)
Hey Shiva I think Islam still maintains a 7th century out look on the world. I think lumping all the “monotheism” together is dangerous. I personally do not believe Islam to be a monotheism look how they worship the Kabah. I have much respect for Hindus which I think you made public that you where. I have no problem with people worshiping more than one G-d as long as they are not trying to kill me, which I think the Hindus have done recently.
re 49 I agree. ““I’ll pray for you, brother.” and “Die Infidel!” are not the same thing.”
sura said: OK, let me see if I have this straight. Supposedly I’m a Feelthy Queer® because I think that Feelthy Queers® have the right to equal protection under the law. (”We hold these truths to be self-evident, yadda yadda yadda.” What a commie pinko liberal, that Thomas Jefferson.)
It isn’t about ‘equal protection’ and you know it. If it were about equal protection, they’d be petitioning Congress….. they wouldn’t be marching down the street and engaging in sexual acts in the streets, or having naked parades, or pushing text books in kindergarden about having two mommies.
But then, you seem like the type that would believe it is about ‘equal protection’…
sura said: And yes, Tex, that’s the least that the likes of James Dobson (who needs to focus on his own damn family) will do, if they ever get any real power.
I say: Got news for you bucko…. we stupid christians make up the VAST majority of this country. If that was really our goal, it’d have already happened….
but keep believing your paranoid conspiracies. Makes you into more of the useful idiot the left needs.
Comment by LanceKates
When using your broad paintbrush to demonize Christianity, you do realize that you put it in the same kettle as islam.
I am not demonizing Christianity, I am critizing all Monotheist religions, please note I have not pointed out in the last comment that I have not pointed out any religion
I am blaming religion for most of the conflicts throught out the ages, I have not pointed out which religion is right or wrong.
This thread is about religion, so I fail to see what communism has to do with it.
“I’ll pray for you, brother.” and “Die Infidel!” are not the same thing.
Hypocritical
Yes “I’ll pray for you, brother.” While the bombs down on Serbia
I cannot reply as my flight to Singapore is about to leave
shiva said: I am not demonizing Christianity, I am critizing all Monotheist religions, please note I have not pointed out in the last comment that I have not pointed out any religion
Uhhhh… Christianity is a monotheist religion, so yes…. you are.
Shiva said: I am blaming religion for most of the conflicts throught out the ages, I have not pointed out which religion is right or wrong.
Uhhh…. I blame the men that started and fought them. Actually, just the evil men. I praise the good ones that fought against evil.
You know…. not all fighting is bad, right?
shiva said: This thread is about religion, so I fail to see what communism has to do with it.
Because Communism, specifically that of Soviet Russia, was pushed by atheists who wanted to eliminate religion so that people depended upon the government instead of any god. It is, therefore, the best example of atheism (i.e, the absence of god as a religion) driving mass murder to a tune that no one else has been able to match.
shiva said: Yes “I’ll pray for you, brother.” While the bombs down on Serbia
Ahh, yes. I remember when Jesus Himself pulled that lever. Right you are to blame religion…. *smirks*
It isn’t about ‘equal protection’ and you know it. If it were about equal protection, they’d be petitioning Congress…..
As if anyone ever got recognition of their rights by asking pretty please.
pushing text books in kindergarden about having two mommies.
Yes, the kiddies need to learn to hates them Feelthy Queers®, else they may turn out to be Feelthy Queers® just like Larry Craig and Ted Haggard did.
I say: Got news for you bucko…. we stupid christians make up the VAST majority of this country.
And yet every time I turn around, some whiny Bible-thumper is claiming that the Evil Librul Conspiracy™ is persecuting him.
If that was really our goal, it’d have already happened….
Two words: Matthew Shepard. P.S. Do you really believe he’s the only one? Oh, and even if Shepard’s killers weren’t true
ScotsmenChristians, it’s the Christians who promote the idea that it’s OK to hate them Feelthy Queers®.#56. Sura 109
Matthew Shepard was not murdered for being a homosexual. See the ABC news article:
ABC News: New Details Emerge in Matthew Shepard Murder
I do not believe the two men who murdered Shepard were even Christians. (Even if they were, to murder someone not be representative of Christianity since its Jewish roots and the teachings of Jesus prohibited murder.)
Sura 109 wrote,
I don’t even think Fred “God hates fags” Phelps teaches that. I know of no Christians, especially American ones, who advocate violence against homosexuals.
You just lie and make stuff up, Sura 109.
Of course, Sura the neo-pagan brings up Matthew Shepard but fails to mention Jesse Dirkhising, bound and raped, then suffocated by two homosexual Feelthy Queers®.
http://www.newsnet14.com/2003/12/jesse-dirkhising/
Sura and the MSM seem to have a real bad habit of recollection and publication when it doesn’t suit their perverted and pathetic agenda…
Hey Shiva have a great trip in Singapore
Sura the Neo-Pagan,
Can you inform the crowd here exactly what James Dobson’s family needs to clean up. I think you’re making stuff up and throwing out distortions to take the emphasis off your preference for rectum rumping.
You keep mentioning that but never deliver exactly what egregious sin Dobson’s family has committed. That is, besides calling you and your ilk evil; haven’t heard the Feelthy Queers® yet.
Just to be clear I have no problem with Pagans as long as they are not blowing themselves up trying to kill me. I dated a pagan when I was at the university.
#61, avid editor:
I don’t have much of a problem with pagans, either, provided they’re not saying rude, obnoxious things against Christianity on a blog or discussion board, and not blowing themselves up (or blowing up other people), as you were saying.
#58, Tex Taylor, Re: Jesse Dirkhising.
Just about an hour ago, I posted about that same news story in another thread in response to some comment “Sura 109″ made.
Militant homosexuals are actually very intolerant, and they themselves have engaged in discrimination against HETERO-sexuals, and they have engaged in violence, too (against both straights and homosexuals).
I cited a bunch of examples in another thread on here earlier tonight (I think in the thread about the Catholic Church), where I gave links to the news stories.
rainy: I don’t even think Fred “God hates fags” Phelps teaches that.
Interesting note: Fred “God Hates Gays” Phelps…… threw a fundraiser for Al Gore back when he teamed up with Clinton.
He’s just a faker and his family of lawyers that make up his ‘church’ are just trying to trash christianity and try and make a buck hoping someone will assault them.
Because I am exasperated at the Evolutionary Idiocy on LGF here is a link to a paper I wrote that I think many of you will enjoy. Does God Hate Evolution?
#46 rev – Fixed it for ya!
#46 rev – Fixed it for ya!
#54 Shiva : “Yes “I’ll pray for you, brother.” While the bombs down on Serbia”
As a pro-Serbia advocate, I’d suggest the bombing of Serbia is political (and PC) as opposed to religiously influenced.
To all:
That’s one thing a lot of people seem to be overlooking here. In modern times, there is a difference between politically motivated violence, which often, by coincidence, involves Christians, and religiously motivated violence, which disproportionately involves islam.
Let’s take care not to confuse the two.
Islam is all encompassing- religious and political. Neither are reasons to blow people up that disagree.
Jehu,
Because I am exasperated at the Evolutionary Idiocy on LGF here is a link to a paper I wrote that I think many of you will enjoy. Does God Hate Evolution?
Comment by Jehu (A banned One) — December 4, 2008 @ 1:05 am
Pretty good Jehu. Believe it or not, the last chapter of my college Physics book reads almost like the author of your post. There is no mention of God, of course, but the textbook leaves with a fascination of how everything is so exquisitely designed.
On thing I did notice in the article, though. If memory serves, electromagnetism is approximately 40 times stronger than gravity – I’m not sure the author got that right, or I misunderstood his explanation.
Jehu,
LOL. I just noticed your pic! Sorry about that…
Obviously, most secular scientists simply choose to avoid the “why” questions, because that would require them to actually think instead of parrot the current dogma.
Hello Tex,
I will have to research the strength issue, as I remember that gravity is an extraordinarily weak force, yet it is the most pervasive of all the forces. Electromagnetism can be blocked but gravity cannot. Just like God to design something like that. Reminds me that the largest animal that ever lived the blue whale, feeds on some of the smallest animals. If man was designing things, he would have the blue whale eating bigger things. Here is an interesting tidbit. The difference between the mass of the proton to the mass of the electron is 1836. Factoring we get 153 x 12 Now 153 is the number of fish Peter caught after Christ told him where to lower the net (This is after the resurrection) and 12 is always used to represent the Kingdom of God on the earth. These are two of the most significant numbers in the Bible and their product is one of the most, if not the most important constant in the universe. 153 is also a mathematical curiosity, just google if you are interested.
ahh, the joys of fractal math. Finding patterns in chaos. The joys of fractal math as a Christian is that you know who created the patterns.
Jehu,
Many of these pseudo-intellects with their Piled Higher & Deeper degrees are a facade. If you haven’t seen “Expelled”, it’s worth the watch. And you don’t have to be a molecular biologist to appreciate what Ben Stein (one of the few with a set) calls these clowns on.
Like I’ve said before. This current debate with the Darwin Johnson crowd has little or nothing to do with science, and everything with a mindset of the who, what and why, and who controls the curriculum. Ben Stein proves that beautifully in his movie. These evolutionists can mock the ID types, but the fact remains the Darwinian blowhards can’t begin to answer the questions posed. So therefore, it is necessary to intimidate and stifle the dissent when you can’t afford to be challenged and risk the exposure of looking the fool. Ironic isn’t it, that what Charles used to rail against in the MSM (deception, lies, intimidation) is now his latest tool? That alone ought to prove Charles is deluded.
Charles Johnson & Co. may think that makes this issue and stand makes them really hip. I know C.J. likes to think himself the intellectual rebel, but all his newest jihad of slamming “creationists” (his word, not mine) really proves is how limited his thinking. He’s the one parroting the lib meme concerning this regard.
own/one…
Lawd…
Charles Johnson & Co. may think that makes this issue and stand makes them really hip
Charles Johnson & Co. may think that
makesthis issue and stand makes them really hip…I swear, I’ll proof read next time!
Lancekates…Hello. Tex, yep they all act like they are experts, when I am guessing I know more about evolutionary theory than any posting on LGF. Yet probably few or any of them have read anything by Behe or Dembski. Let alone all the scientists that are not in the biology departments that don’t consider evolutionairy theory possible. Also how come you never see botanists quoted or advocates of Darwin? Because there is nothing like the Time-Life depection of apes slowly becoming man, not for plants. Plants come forth in an unordered mess. Many of the trees that sustain us as far as fruits and nuts do not even appear in the fossil record, they are just suddenly hear about 100,000 years ago or even later. I did see Expelled and enjoyed it quite a bit. Ben Stein was a hero on LFG until he did that movie, suddenly they think he was inexplicably struck by a stupid ray from space.
Arrrgh, so many typos, not enough time.
@rainydayweather: Sura 109 wrote,
Oh, and even if Shepard’s killers weren’t true ScotsmenChristians, it’s the Christians who promote the idea that it’s OK to hate them Feelthy Queers®.
I don’t even think Fred “God hates fags” Phelps teaches that. I know of no Christians, especially American ones, who advocate violence against homosexuals.
If God hates fags, and His enemies are His followers’ enemies, then His followers are also obliged to hate them Feelthy Queers®, right? Phelps’s schtick is that soldiers get killed in Iraq because America tolerates them Feelthy Queers®. (It can’t possibly be that we tolerate a lying son of a Bush in the highest seat in the land.)
Sura Phelps is a bad example of a Christian seeing as how one of the main components is not to judge. Love the sinner, hate the sin and all that. But even Phelps doesn’t advocate killing gay people, just your everyday pious muslims.
Sura the Neo-Pagan,
An argumentum ad hominem, and a lame one at that.
Can you inform the crowd here exactly what James Dobson’s family needs to clean up.
Do pay attention. I never said Dobson’s family needs to clean anything up; I said he needed to focus on his own damn family, as in mind his own fargin’ business and stop telling the rest of us how to live. Of course I would not be the least bit surprised if his daughter turned up pregnant out of wedlock, his son came out of the closet and Dobson himself proved to have a leather fetish.
I think you’re making stuff up and throwing out distortions to take the emphasis off your preference for rectum rumping.
An argumentum ad hominem, and a lame one at that.
You keep mentioning that but never deliver exactly what egregious sin Dobson’s family has committed. That is, besides calling you and your ilk evil;
And what exactly is my “ilk”, and what makes my “ilk”, whatever it is, evil? I am a white man in love with a black woman; not so long ago and not so far away, that alone would have marked me as “evil”. I have no reason to believe that even Dobson believes that, but it could have got me kicked out of Bob Jones University (please don’t fling me in dat brier patch!) not so long ago.
So, I must be a Feelthy Queer® because I believe that Feelthy Queers® have the same rights as everyone else. I must also be black, in spite of my fairish complexion, because I don’t believe in racial discrimination. Oh, and I must also be a Jew, a Muslim, a neo-pagan, a Catholic, a Hindu, a Buddhist, a Sikh, and an atheist, because I believe all of those have equal rights too. Whatever might be the truth about God, I must have my bases covered.
I don’t have much of a problem with pagans, either, provided they’re not saying rude, obnoxious things against Christianity on a blog or discussion board, and not blowing themselves up (or blowing up other people), as you were saying.
Yes, because Christians are privileged and immune to all criticism, and there are thousands of neo-pagan suicide bombers planning to pilot a jumbo jet into the National Cathedral.
Remember, boys and girls:
* Rude, obnoxious things about Christianity: BAD.
* Rude, obnoxious things about MooseLimbs, neo-pagans, Feelthy Queers®, evilutionists, etc.: GOOD.
OT
I had no idea “Iron Fist” was a rump ranging ass-hat, but he is!
Iron Fist buries his face up Chuckles butt
BTW, playing with colors and big fonts was great fun when LGF wasn’t populated by the worshippers of the assclown Chuckles, and instead had thoughtful discussions between intelligent people, but I’m not missing the return of big and colorful font to Chuckles daily rages against all religion.
Who here said that any of those people can’t have equal rights?
They have the same rights to marry someone of the opposite sex than anyone else does. Everyone has that same right. If they wanted the same legal rights to be with someone of the same sex as opposed to the opposite sex they would be protesting for civil unions. That isn’t good enough. They want acceptance and you can’t make people accept you. You can make them tolerate you by law, but accepting it is another story.
The rest of your comment is just filler. Keep throwing out those strawmen, (who is discrimating against the races here?) They’re easy to see through.
I believe in equal rights for all the religions you listed too. They all have the same right to believe what they want to. Phelps can be an idiot, until he crosses a line and breaks our laws. He has not, (that i know of- but wouldn’t THAT be funny if he was sent to prison for something
Muslims can be islamic, until they cross the line and break our laws (like wearing the burka for drivers license pics is out of the question and should have never been in question).
No opinion on the “militant gays” that went nuts after prop 8? They weren’t very tolerant of the democratic vote you know.
Ed, AND he’s a neo-nazi! That is pretty funny.
Sura-Webster Online Dictionary; 109th Edition…
argumentum ad hominem
(1) The lame defense for one who uses Latin phrases as the final weapon where they have no answer, and in answering this way will appear a fraud full of moral platitudes.
Sura, you POS. I knew you were an amoral fraud.
You’re sitting here bashing Dobson and his family and you don’t have a frickin’ clue to what you’re talking about; of course, there’s nothing new about that. Just throw out any bullshit and hope something sticks. No wonder you’re a fan of bad science. Cut and paste some crap to look educated and intelligent, plaster on blog site, claim knowledge, invoke ad hominem when called upon.
Sura, you’re a hemorrhoid on the anal sphincter of humanity, you low life…if I were you, I’d off myself.
Sura 109Phelps has run in various Kansas Democratic Party primaries five times, but has never won. These included races for governor in 1990, 1994, and 1998, receiving about 15% of the vote in 1998. In the 1992 Democratic Party primary for U.S. Senate,Sura 109Phelps received 31% of the vote.Sura 109Phelps ran for mayor of Topeka in 1993 and 1997.Sura 109Fred Phelps received awards from the Greater Kansas City Chapter of Blacks in Government and the Bonner Springs branch of the NAACP for his role in Darwinian Evolution designating himself as the missing link.Man, don’t you know if old Fred was a good Dimocrat, Sura 109 would be in here criticizing most of us as Fred’s?
wasn’t a good Dimocrat; cause you know Sura is rump ribbing Dim.
[Feelthy Queers®] have the same rights to marry someone of the opposite sex than anyone else does.
And here we see, once again, what a master of deliberately missing the point is Nux-alata americana, the common American wingnut. In the absence of Prop 8, straights would have the same rights to marry someone of the same sex that anyone else does. Before Loving v. Virginia, black people had the same right to marry someone of their own race that white people did.
I believe in equal rights for all the religions you listed too. They all have the same right to believe what they want to.
Again, you deliberately miss the point.
I believe Muslims have equal rights to others. That doesn’t mean I’m a Muslim.
I believe Jews have equal rights to others. That doesn’t mean I’m a Jew.
I believe ethnic minorities have equal rights to others. That doesn’t mean I belong to such a minority.
Now fill in the blank: I believe Filthy Queers® have equal rights to straights. That doesn’t mean I’m a _______ _______®.
Muslims can be islamic, until they cross the line and break our laws
Heresy! Thou vile heretic! The MooseLimbs are out to make dhimmis of us all! No wonder Chucky kicked you off his blog, spewing vile heresy like this! Why do you hate America?
No opinion on the “militant gays” that went nuts after prop 8?
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what’s for dinner. Liberty is a well armed sheep contesting the result. If the MooseLimbs® really got serious about passing shari’a in America, and somebody started vandalizing some mosques, what would you think?
They weren’t very tolerant of the democratic vote you know.
Suppose a “democratic vote” went down in some majority-Muslim district, decreeing that Christians and Jews had to pay jizya and all the infidels had to convert to Islam or die. What would you think?
[Absurd ad hominem ignored] Phelps has run in various Kansas Democratic Party primaries five times
And David Duke has run as a Republican…how many times?
#74 Tex – Fixed it for ya!
Comment by DJM — December 4, 2008 @ 4:37 pm
Thank you. My proofreading is on par with say Sura’s ability to understand anatomical function…null and void.
Probably far fewer than the Grand Wizard Himself, Poppa Byrd. There’s a chip off the old block…I’ll bet he was a big fan of Prop 8.
Sura, you lost Prop 8 – buck up and act “kind of like” a man for once. We got stuck with Obama; you get stuck with Folsom Street Fair.
All’s fair.
Sura, you know what I really disdain about libs? All your insults sound the same. You all sound like a cross between law school drop outs and flunkies from 101 Kant.
I’m counting how many times are we going to hear ad hominem, straw man, cognitive dissonance, Friedrich Nietzsche, blah blah blah from your Baal worshipping ilk.
You pinkos need some new material. Try behavioral sciences, 102.
“Muslims can be islamic, until they cross the line and break our laws
Heresy! Thou vile heretic! The MooseLimbs are out to make dhimmis of us all! No wonder Chucky kicked you off his blog, spewing vile heresy like this! Why do you hate America?”
If you actually applied what Islam teaches in real time in thise Sura, you’d figure out any true Muslim cannot honor our Constitution and our laws without making a deceptive compromises. Heading off Islamic colonization BEFORE it becomes a grave issue like France & Great Britain are presently facing is what Liberals are pissing & moaning about right now in the USA as “Islamophobia”. Their long term blindness of this issue is a serious problem. I suggest you join LGF [if you haven't already] and high step in line with the lizard cult.
“And David Duke has run as a Republican…how many times?”
Sura if you care to realize David Duke had zero support & was denied true party status from the officials of the Republican party. Very poor example of equivalence you tried to muster, considering Sen. Robert Byrd, a life long member of the KKK and had FULL support of the Democratic establishment.
Sura opined:
And here we see, once again, what a master of deliberately missing the point is Nux-alata americana, the common American wingnut. In the absence of Prop 8, straights would have the same rights to marry someone of the same sex that anyone else does. Before Loving v. Virginia, black people had the same right to marry someone of their own race that white people did.
You equating being homosexual to being black in scale of oppression is pretty funny. You call them “rights”. A civil union could do the same thing, and you wouldn’t have militant gays suing churches for discrimination when they wouldn’t marry them. There are plenty of more liberal churches who will. They could petition for the same “rights” by way of civil unions and they would have a more christians on their side than you care to admit. If they can physically and mentally do the exact same things with a civil union (visiting rights in hospitals, rights to inheritance, tax breaks- the whole kabang), why would they HAVE to have it called a marriage?
By the way, weren’t you the one talking about being called names? Didn’t you know it takes wingnuts to tighten loose screws?
Again, you deliberately miss the point.
I believe Muslims have equal rights to others. That doesn’t mean I’m a Muslim.
I believe Jews have equal rights to others. That doesn’t mean I’m a Jew.
I believe ethnic minorities have equal rights to others. That doesn’t mean I belong to such a minority.
Now fill in the blank: I believe Filthy Queers® have equal rights to straights. That doesn’t mean I’m a _______ _______®.
You’re getting your commenters mixed up Sura. Slow down and read more carefully or split your replies better. I don’t call them “filthy queers”, and I couldn’t care less if you are one.
Heresy! Thou vile heretic! The MooseLimbs are out to make dhimmis of us all! No wonder Chucky kicked you off his blog, spewing vile heresy like this! Why do you hate America?
lol, I’m not one of the banned ones. My cut was self-inflicted.
Democracy is two wolves and a sheep deciding what’s for dinner. Liberty is a well armed sheep contesting the result. If the MooseLimbs® really got serious about passing shari’a in America, and somebody started vandalizing some mosques, what would you think?
Vandalizing should be prosecuted, whatever the reasoning. Free speech doesn’t mean freedom of destruction of property. And note the way you skipped the violence, disrespect for other peoples rights (a biggie too, freedom of speech) and focused on vandalism.
I don’t want sharia and I’m fighting that by learning about it (for one, that whole sharia compliant stipulation that 3% goes to islamic charities thing will not win many friends) and writing as many letters as I can write to pols, telling as many people that will listen what sharia actually entails, and any other way I can think of to make sure that shit stays out of my country. Non-muslims (the majority here) that understand what it means will reject it along with me. If they don’t, maybe Australia will still have some sense.
Suppose a “democratic vote” went down in some majority-Muslim district, decreeing that Christians and Jews had to pay jizya and all the infidels had to convert to Islam or die. What would you think?
You do know that we have laws against that stuff, right? Laws against making those laws. It couldn’t happen here unless they change the whole fabric of America. Even though they want to, they can’t. Your point?
And David Duke has run as a Republican…how many times?
Not as many as Democrat Roberty Byrd.
I should have known someone would get the Byrd hit in before me.
#90 Tex – Yours and mine both. I used to distress over typos and poor grammar, but I’ve learned it really isn’t such a big deal. Still, it is nice to have the ability to edit.
I’m counting how many times are we going to hear ad hominem,
Use rational arguments instead of ad hominems, and I won’t call you on your ad hominems.
straw man,
Use rational arguments instead of setting up straw men, and I won’t call you on your straw men.
cognitive dissonance,
Well, lessee, revparadigm in #93 says Pheer da MooseLimbs. arwynkafir in #94 says “we have laws…against making those laws. It couldn’t happen here unless they change the whole fabric of America.” (Neither of which answers my question. If a majority vote imposed the jizya, what means would you think appropriate to overturn it? Let me add this: The district court, appeals court and Supreme Court are all majority MooseLimb®. The Supreme Court says the jizya is constitutional, because the dhimmis can always convert. While unlikely, this is one of the ways that revparadigm’s nightmare scenario could play out.)
Friedrich Nietzsche,
“There’s nothing Nietzche couldn’t teach ya ’bout the raising of the wrist…” Never read Nietzsche, so I don’t comment on him. Now you lot stop commenting on Sigmund Freud and Karl Marx and Adam Smith until you’ve read at least one work by them, and we’ll all be happy.
blah blah blah from your Baal worshipping ilk.
An ad hominem, and a lame one at that.
Sura if you care to realize David Duke had zero support
“Vote for the crook. It’s important.” Such slogans wouldn’t have been necessary if Duke had zero support.
Sen. Robert Byrd, a life long member of the KKK
Byrd quit the Klan decades ago. How many decades is a matter of dispute, of course, and then we have this little gem:
Byrd, at that time, would have made a very good Republican wingnut.
Byrd, at that time, would have made a very good Republican wingnut.
Sure, assuming that republicans are racists. yet it is constantly the Democrats that hold the minorities down by telling them that they’re not good enough on their own to succeed and ‘need’ the federal goverment to force people to hire them or give them free money.
dependence is slavery. The DNC likes to keep the minorities dependent.
and, don’t forget, it was the southern DEMOCRAT that opposed integration.
We can go back and forth. Truth is, you’re just a lefty antichristian nut who loves to slander and lie about Conservatives, Republicans and Christians.
Sura Ad Hominem…kind of has a ring to it. Sounds like an American hatin’ lackey to me.
Mullah Sura,
We know you’re upset about America dissing your pack of Feelthy Queers, and you sensitivity police type struggling with the idea that most people find sperm swimming in feces repugnant, and your being about as popular as the clap here at LGF2, but I was wanting to know?
Have you snakeskin cowboys made it to Compton or over to the local mosque yet to storm the doors like you do the Mormons over the Prop 8 vote?
No, I didn’t think so.
“On March 4, 2001, an interview with FOX News Sunday host Tony Snow was aired. In the interview Byrd was asked about race relations: “They are much, much better than they’ve ever been in my lifetime,” Byrd said. “I think we talk about race too much. I think those problems are largely behind us… I just think we talk so much about it that we help to create somewhat of an illusion. I think we try to have good will. My old mom told me, ‘Robert, you can’t go to heaven if you hate anybody.’ We practice that.” Then Byrd warned: “There are white niggers. I’ve seen a lot of white niggers in my time; I’m going to use that word.”
Unless he has changed in the last seven years…how long before this did he quit the KKK “officially”?
Mullah Sura,
I’m not much up on Marx, though I would expect you to be an apprentice being it’s the only way you are going to make it, but any time you’re ready to discuss Adam Smith and economics, look me up. I’ll bet we could have an interesting conversation and you could show off those illustrious credentials you possess.
Here is Robert Byrd at his finest! Remember this one, Mullah Sura? Here’s your master at work. A real classic!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FIBJt-c2o0
Ah Rev,
Great minds think alike!
Rev said: Unless he has changed in the last seven years…how long before this did he quit the KKK “officially”?
I say: Come on now, he has a D after his name. He can’t be guilty of anything! only Republicans can be guilty!
avideditor.
I was booked to go to Bangkok, and then down to Phuket, I have to this trip so as to get a visa for Indonesia.
avideditor. I think Islam still maintains a 7th century out look on the world. I think lumping all the “monotheism” together is dangerous. I personally do not believe Islam to be a monotheism look how they worship the Kabah.
When a religion worships only one god, there is no other way to describe it, whether the god is good or evil it still does not alter the fact.
avideditor I have much respect for Hindus which I think you made public that you where.
I have never stated I am Hindu, and many are led astray by my nick, as Hinduism does not hold a monopoly on him/her ???
I think I could describe myself as a Satanist/Atheist
DJM #67 As a pro-Serbia advocate, I’d suggest the bombing of Serbia is political (and PC) as opposed to religiously influenced.
True, But America, was aiding the Muslims, who as you point out are religiously motivated. So while the bombs where raining down on Serbia, we see the Americans asking for gods blessing, because in god they trust.
re 49 I agree. ““I’ll pray for you, brother.” and “Die Infidel!” are not the same thing.”
“I,ll pray for you, brother.” and “Die Infidel!” are not the same thing.”
So may I ask which is one is telling the truth?
Shiva did you have your visa? If so I wish you had (or having) a good trip. I would rather people say “I,ll pray for you, brother.” than “Die Infidel!
The Visa thing went quite okay,its just one of the snags of being ex-pat.
This thread stirred up a few. Nornal does when I bring up gerinoil.
It the same reaction when you condemn all drugs, there always some who is going to be suppotive of one drug or the other
Have you read Satanic Bible: Anton S. Lavey.
Sura Sura Sura
(Neither of which answers my question. If a majority vote imposed the jizya, what means would you think appropriate to overturn it? Let me add this: The district court, appeals court and Supreme Court are all majority MooseLimb®. The Supreme Court says the jizya is constitutional, because the dhimmis can always convert. While unlikely, this is one of the ways that revparadigm’s nightmare scenario could play out.)
You are equating not allowing gays to marry with jizya (and killing citizens if they don’t submit to jizya)? lol, whatever helps you keep that image in your mind that gays are oppressed in America. It doesn’t mean your argument is valid, but whatever works for you. The supreme court could not say that scenario is constitutional and you KNOW it. Muslim majority or not. If they did, we would already be too far gone to stop it.
How about this…
A martian lands in Georgia and tells all liberals they have to submit to the spaghetti god or ELSE! (yeah, that’s about as stupid as your point sounded) You throw out the most inane argument to try to make a point and it just makes you look … well desperate.
Byrd, at that time, would have made a very good Republican wingnut.
If he was. Only he wasn’t. He was a very good Democrat.
arwyn, I changed my icon. And that is a pic I took in Savage MN. haha
I like it. Highyway man
highyway? lol
It sounded better than Interstate Man! lol
I used to drive for Interstate, haha
Ya I read some of Levay’s work. I think you are taking him too seriously. I think he was a smart man but I disagree with him on some major points. Why did you bring up Levay, Shiva?
you sensitivity police type struggling with the idea that most people find sperm swimming in feces repugnant
Funny, I thought Prop 8 was about marriage, not sex as such. Face it, the Feelthy Queers® are having sex whether Pat Robertson finds it repugnant or not. The issue is such things as income tax, inheritance, beneficiaries of life insurance policies, hospital visits.
Oh, right, for Dobsonite scum like you, everything is about sex, especially if it’s other people having it and not you.
P.S. Did you come in your diaper as you wrote of “sperm swimming in feces”? See, I can use ridiculous ad hominems too.
Sura 109
Not that an assclown like you would know, but homo couples in California have the same rights as straight couples under the domestic partnership laws.
See we here in California the land of prop 8, domesticated the homos.
That’s not good enough Bar. In order to give them their “RIGHTS” everyone must accept them. It is already a worse crime to kill a minority than us regular folks (is there a non-hate crime?), but they want more.
arwynkafir
You hit the nail right on the head.