Robert Spencer is now an enemy of Little Green Footballs.
Charles Johnson, you are either an complete fucking idiot or part of The Enemy Within.
As for me, I will do everything in my power to break LGF into a million bits.
Hat tip to no2liberals and DJM.
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Since LGF is so big on evolution, I would say that they have mutated into a naturally selected state of cult of personality under the Gestapo hand of Heir Charles. The cannibal chameleons seems hungry to feed on anyone their Lord doesn’t bless.
Charles Johnson and his damn echo chamber can all go fuck themselves…
All but a couple decent ones in there.
This fall out between Spencer and Charles is almost as funny as my “spencer is a jihadist posing as an anti jihadist” faux blog!
Classic, Spencer has been unmasked as a crypto fascist working undercover in the anti-jihad movement. I should’ve made up that one!
Damn I wish I’d kept my blog, this is great material.
Personally Spencer and Charles can shove it up their backsides. A couple of wankers. Both are as bad as each other, banning folk that dare to support a fragile European nationalism.
New LGF post in the near future:
“Robert Spencer funded by the Discovery Institute?”
Come on, Mr. Spencer, just admit it. You know it’s true!
/sarcasm
Always appreciate a hat tip, when I deserve it, but DJM was the first here to report it.
Ol’Chucky is emptying out those fox holes, ain’t he?
I can hear the brave jihad fighter in action now.
CJ:I need ammo…ammo…oh…wait! You aren’t ideologically pure enough for me, get out of this fox hole.
WAIT! DON’T TAKE THE AMMO!
/henh
n2l, I honestly didn’t notice DJM posted it first, I just saw your nick there.
I will correct it, kind Sir.
A guy that sits at home and finds links questions the integrity and motives of a man that has done as much as Robert Spencer for the anti-jihad?
Charles has become anti-anti-jihad.
LD,
Charles is a damn traitor to the jihad fight. Turncoat and uberdork to boot
Charles made a mistake IMHO. What do you think of my last post. http://avideditor.wordpress.com/2008/11/02/obama-will-kill-all-the-jews-he-will-be-worse-then-hitler-or-stalin/
Charles Johnson calls Michael Behe a fraud.
Charles Johnson calls Robert Spencer a neo-Nazi white supremacist.
Michael Behe, Ph.D, has written over 35 articles and 1 book.
Robert Spencer, MA, has written over 300 articles and 8 books.
Charles Johnson simpleton, Junior HS diploma?, 0 articles, 0 books, 0 brains.
Its unfortunate that Robert Spencer had to be on the receiving end of the adolescent Charles Johnson tinfoil ass-clown melt down.
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Last 3 months, down 20%
And to beat a dead horse.
1143 Sharmuta 11/01/08 4:40:58 am reply quote 4
re: #1139 Brett_McS
And frankly, anyone who could look at Robert Spencer and see anything but the most honest and gentlemanly of men has clearly flown the coop.
robert has not been honest. He told Charles previously that he agreed with him, and now he agrees with fjordman and has gone so far as to personally vouch for him. He’s promoting a neofascist. He’s using the same tired argument we’ve seen before. Not that it matters to you, of course. You’d rather demonize Charles than take a real look as to what exactly it is that fjordman is offering as a “solution” that robert is so keen to make an alliance with.
Anyone who wants to make excuses for fascists is free to enjoy their fleas.
That is an outright lie by the bestial sharmuta, I can find zero proof that Robert ever agreed with charles about fjordman, but that’s standard practice at LGF, the untrustworthy site owner sets the very low standards. Although its apparent that Killgore Trout really runs the show, Charles followed his every suggestion to the “T” in that thread, I was amazed that cj tosses kt’s salad.
no2liberals & savagenation – all is cool! I just mentioned RS so newly banned LGF’ers, like myself, would know being banned was not necessarily a negative.
At first, I was upset, since I enjoyed LGF and since becoming a member takes a bit of luck. But now that I see some truly wonderful people falling victim to Charles’ bizarre and arbitrary dictatorship, I realize being banned from LGF is a virtue.
I had always been a fan of bloggers like Lionheart and Fjordman, but after their falling out with LGF, I kept my opinions to myself for fear of offending LGF and it’s numerous minions. Now, I see I was wrong. I should have gone with my instincts and stood up for what I knew was right. I’m sorry I didn’t reject LGF sooner.
Being banned, finding LGF2, and seeing Robert Spencer “excommunicated” has been incredibly therapeutic! I’ve discovered a noble part of myself I will never ignore again. And I hope other will find good in their experience.
It is because of Charles Johnson that I have mostly quit reading blogs that are part of Pajamas Media…just because if Charles is part of it, it must be bad.
That’s bad, because I miss reading Victor Davis Hanson and the Blog Father.
Savage Nation, I still read LGF and I want to continue doing so, but I want you to know that I still think of you and wish you the best,
Thunder Pig,
Don’t be like Chucky, and lump people together. There are many fine contributors at PJM, that don’t express the Charlie Sierra characteristics of him.
As for lgf, I don’t even click on their links posted at other blogs, irrespective of the information.
That egotistical hipster has nothing of benefit to offer.
Thunder Pig
Charles got fired from Pajamas Media about a year ago for being an embarrassing half wit.
http://www.richardsilverstein.com/tikun_olam/2007/12/03/charles-johnson-axed-from-pajamas-media-management/
bar:
Good point. Remember the “Gagdad Bob” (One Cosmos) dust-up? When Mama Winger, Ma Sands, BabbaZee, and EC Marm all got banned for being “supporters” of Bob? Turns out Bob is a Clinical Psychologist and published author.
Maybe the kitchen table programmer and two paragraph (if that) blogger has a little pen envy?
Banning/bashing/banishing someone like Robert Spencer because of the contents of their blogroll is kinda, well… effeminate, if you ask me.
379 Charles 11/02/08 3:20:49 pm reply quote -280
Please don’t post links to that site.
Hahaha. You guys are twisting someones panties in a knot. Okay, I made up the -280 rating, but if anyone over there had a set of balls, that’s what would have happened. I mean, come on, Robert Spencer? That’s just demented.
Perseus
Agreed, I remember that.
But in his defense (Charles Johnson) he is a pseudo-9/11-conservative, former lefty and those liberal ideas and standards are clearly on display, you cant hide what you truly are for long.
His liberal standards on display are, no dissidence, ad hominem attacks, lies and more lies.
Charles is wrong on many things but I think he is on our side against the Jihadis. Read his last post about Khalidi. He has a great link showing he is a member of the PLO. http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/31784_More_Proof_Rashid_Khalidi_Was_a_Terrorist_Shill#rss Here is the link if you are banned http://sandbox.blog-city.com/khalidi_of_the_plo.htm
I think Obama will act like a jihadi if he is not one of them. I wish Charles would say that. If he says that he can ban and block most people, I will still respect him. What do you think?
coward and I admit it,
Thanks. awww
Charles is insane. Robert Spencer takes on the Jihad. Charles just complains.
Rodan,
Charles couldn’t fight his way out of a wet paper bag.
Savage,
We knew this was coming
Medura and Killgore Trout have been bashing Robert Spencer. This proves Killgore controls Charles.
Killgore and Charles might be one and the same. I just have that sneaking suspicion.
Until LGF exposes Obama for what he really is I have no respect for it. The war with the discovery center could be forgoten if one exposes Obama IMHO. Robert Spencer is a great man. Anyone read his new book?
Perseus said… “Maybe the kitchen table programmer and two paragraph (if that) blogger has a little pen envy?”
It isn’t Robert’s fault Chuckie has a little pen! lol (too good to resist).
DJM
What you wrote above is very commendable. I think we can all relate to it to various degrees. However, I think maybe you should consider taking it a bit further before you slip backwards.
Having learned how easily you can be led into things, (it is just human nature), maybe you should be more suspicious of say Lionheart and Robert Spencer too. I don’t know much about RS, I’ve never read there. But from his site he strikes me as a more verbose version of Nancy. He may not have the control freak issues, and he’s obviously smarter, but maybe that makes him more dangerous. Also, from what I know of Lionheart he seems like a bit of an whining attention seeker who fell foul of the local hoods in Camden Town. He then found a willing audience to pour his heart out to online. I live in the UK, and the scaremongering I have heard from any of them, especially Nancy, bears no resemblance to my reality.
It’s really blogging you’ve become hooked on, not a political fight against Islamism. You’re obviously quite normal, but for most people online it’s something benign like Facebook or MySpace. Like the rest of us, you happen to have fallen into Charles Johnson’s cess pit. I hope it won’t colour your future blogging life. if you haven’t already done so, expand your horizons. Put a blog on model aeroplanes or whatever on your rounds. Just be wary of simply swapping one false idol for another.
Just my 0.2c to back up what you wrote. There are plenty at LGF who are uncomfortable with sacrificing their capacity for independent thought. You can see it in some of their posts. Maybe somebody will read this thread and jump ship.
Now I’m off to follow my own advice.
Best Wishes
Bweep
“But from his site he strikes me as a more verbose version of Nancy.”
Not even close.
Bweep:
Thanks for letting me know he was given the axe…I had avoided the website since Atlas got the axe…now I can go back!!!
CJ is just another snivelling lib who had just enough sense to grow some anti-Dhimmi hair on his balls.
Bookmarked!
Nice site. I think I’ll visit regularly.
Thanks for coming to the party USorThem and awake.
Me and the other blogmeisters are trying to make this a nice site. I’m gonna start adding other things that have nothing to do with the uberdork AtS.
I’ve read a lot of Robert Spencer, and a fair amount of Fjordman, and in neither writer have I seen any sympathies with fascism. Robert Spencer has been explicit in rejecting any ties or alliances with any anti-jihadists in the fascist parties of Europe. So what is Charles Johnson’s problem? Why would he ban someone like Spencer, one of the most excellent educators and debaters of all time on the jihad question, and someone who puts his life on the line every day like some kind of Socrates who refuses to shut up? What the _________ is wrong with Charles Johnson?
CJ is mediocre on the whole evolution question. He seems to think the only way to see the question is either 1) Intelligent Design or 2) the mainstream materialist scientistic view. CJ finds the first alternative idiotic, and, since CJ is mediocre on the question, he can imagine only one alternative to #1, namely alternative #2. But even when you reject #1, #2 is totally inadequate. The world is not just a collocation of material particles. Only someone with a profound blind spot in his center could fail to perceive that materialism is an inadequate ontology. And if it were true that there is nothing in matter but matter, nothing would matter. Why should CJ then give a damn what Robert Spencer thinks or does not think? His thought would in the end be just the accidental result of accidental impacts of material particles. Thought’s pretention to access something as immaterial as “truth” would become a joke, one on CJ.
traeh,
My take on this whole issue is that CJ got his head swelled so large due to his taking down of Dan Rather that he got a God complex. Ban and shit upon people that dare to question his ‘authority’.
His blog is falling apart and he’s like a deer in the headlights.
“His blog is falling apart and he’s like a deer in the headlights.”
Yeah….hilarious isn’t it….heh.
“His blog is falling apart and he’s like a deer in the headlights.”
Yep, and I got 550 horses under my hood bearing down on him at 110 mph. BAM!
BTW: Did you see this write up of the Spencer ban. I thought it was a hoot.
http://www.amnation.com/vfr/archives/011773.html
I sure did. Incredible!
From JW comments
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And now for the latest weekend blog news.
Charles Johnson of Little Green Footballs fame shot himself in the foot last Friday. Amazingly, his God complex kicked in and no immediate or apparent damage was done to his foot. However the shoe containing the foot at the time, described as a faschion shoe by Mr. Johnson, was horribly scarred. As a result, Mr. Johnson says he will clear his closet of all faschionable shoes, no matter how well worn and comfortable, and will now wear only jackboots. Many national shoemakers objected to Mr. Johnson’s characterization of their shoes, pointing out that shooting one’s foot will typically scar shoes, faschionable or not, and that it was counterproductive to shoot one’s foot then complain about the shoes. They also offered proof that their shoes were not faschionable, but practical and necessary. Afterward, many of Mr. Johnson’s fans, commonly know as the Lizard King’s court, came to reassure him, egos were stroked and faschionable shoes cursed. “It’s good to be king,” said Mr. Johnson.
Posted by: butterfly at November 2, 2008 11:00 PM
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-Yeah!
sounds like the cruel shoes…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feTrJSWnqdk
I really want to know if this “Killgore Trout” is purposely misspelling Vonnegut’s character (spelled ‘Kilgore”), or if he’s just an illiterate? Of course CJ and KT will peruse this site, so which is it? Purposeful misspelling, or you’re just a dumbo? Probably never even read “God Bless You, Mr. Rosewater.”
I see a few references to “RS” . . . if those are references to the blog RedState, I am a member there and I find it VERY good and largely conservative.
I am there with the likes of Newt and a few others and have never had to say to myself “Should I post this, or will the admins find it too conservative and I’d be in trouble?” Unlike LGF in the months before my banning for “Two in a day, eh?”
RS refers to Robert Spencer
I was there and almost got banned. Charles was banning people who updinged anti-Robert comments. “I am not going to sit around and wait until these people have a meltdown.”
Bweep
Not that my opinion is worth much, but, I have read RS since 2003ish he certainly is not a racist or neo-fascist in any way. His website Jihad Watch has on the top bar a good writeup on his views.
Here is a link.
http://www.jihadwatch.org/spencer/
Robert Spencer is a true blooded American, he supports the constitution and all it stands for.
Some of the comments at the website can be over the top, but RS doesn’t moderate the comments unless you notify them and registration is open 24/7.
LGF is the new CAIR but with a psychopathic twist.
Nancy claims deranged comments left by members on LGF that support Robert Spencer in any way or are racist in nature, are really from Jihad Watch readers.
So Charles Johnson plants racist comments on his own site LGF, then attributes them to Robert Spencer and Jihad Watch, it’s the stupidest shit I have seen Ass clown Nancy do to date.
It’s a WTF moment.
LGF is not the new CAIR IMHO. I think most of the intensions of LGF is good. But every intention of CAIR is evil.
It was the banning of GoV, Pamela Gellar, and now Robert Spencer that tipped it for me. Most of my friends that I met at LGF were previously banned for one infraction or another, so I posted this, today on the Open Door thread:
#141 Jauhara al kafirah: Yay! More people for Charles to ban!
And I was, quite promptly, in fact. My only regret is that I didn’t call him Chuckles, instead.
I have a theory on Charlie’s more rigorous approach to making enemies. It’s along the same lines as his other topics of support.
It’s the only way for Charlie to keep his name in the news because for the first time in his life, these last few years he feels special.
In many ways, Charlie reminds me of MaDonna; a lame talent but a wonderful marketer.
Avideditor
I meant that in jest and I am only referring to the CAIR like tactics with the comments that LGF used recently.
LGF 2 get a plug from Jihad Watch!
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/023346.php#comments
bar,
Fantastic news!
savagenation
I thought that was a good plug for this site.
On Jihad Watch no less. Wow.
indeed!
Duh_swami sez dis about dat…
Spencer’s detractors are smear artists. Nothing more…weak kneed, soft bellied cowards.
While you low life’s are busy smearing people and spewing projectile vomit all over the place, Spencer is facing ‘real’ hostile people, not just punks with a computer.
He puts his life on the line so that YOUR children/grandchildren don’t have to wear a burka, or shout Allahu Akbar at their Muslim school.
Ingrates…
Bar, I just draw the line when you say things like LGF is like CAIR. CAIR is pure evil. LGF has a bunch good with it. I think Charles recently lost his marbles or is taking bad advice. Being soft on Obama and attacking people that believe in G-d is out of character. IMHO G-d bless LGF2 for exposing Charles lies.
Avid Editor
LGF is a home for useful idiots
Neo-Cons just can’t stop themselves from going back to their communists roots, and exiling and demonizing anyone who dorsn’t follow the party line
I just found out Pajamas Media is co-owned by CJ.
Now i know why it’s crawling with atheistic Judaism-hating Jews, war-mongering liberals, cappuccino conservatives, etc etc
what is your exact problem with Neo-Cons?
To be clear — since the term has many definitions –by Neo-Conservative I mean those who were formerly of the Left, but who are now self-described “conservatives”.
However, it seems to me that they still have a socialistic mindset. They still believe that it’s the government’s role to determine public morality etc, even though they might deny it.
They also seem to share mostliberal views on religion and social values.
Pro-Gay “Marriage”, Pro-”Choice”, embarrassed by overt religiosity — especially Christianity, etc — but they think their conservative just because they want a stronger US military, support Israel, and (claim to) want lower taxes.
They have also retained the Marxist habit of purging those they disagree with, and/or engaging in group-hate sessions. I’ve been banned from LGF, TownHall, Hot Air, Weekly Standard, Free Republic, etc. etc.
Usually around religious matters. E.g. expressing my belief that Mormonism is an absurd cult [that was anathema when Bishop Romney was in the running], viewing Islam as an unmitigated work of evil, pointing out that China is actually run by an immoral communist dictatorship [I guess business interests are supposed to come first or something like that?], thinking that war against Serbia, and especially against Russia, is probably something best avoided.
I don’t know, but I think I’m a fair-minded, reasonable person who welcomes debate, so I can only guess the mania for banning people like me comes from their misspent youth debating Trotsky vs Stalin vs Mao on hash.
I have read LGF and JW for years, and respect them both. I will continue to read them both.
I think that it is important not to fracture our commitment to maintaing democracy and our way of life against the Islamist threat, which both are doing.
Let us not demonize either. I hope they will reconcile soon.
Generally speaking, JW/DW bans or deletes some people, who consistently violate the basic terms of Spencer’s disclaimer. Other’s have been banned for making extreme remarks that enemies can blame Spencer for…like genocidal comments…No one that I know of has been banned simply because they disagree with Spencer. He invites those people to debate…
In fact there have been numerous pain in the arses that show up, that I would ban if I had the button, but JW does not ban them…
Lgf Is a notch up from riotous chat, JW is several notches up from LGF because the preponderance of the content is scholarly/intellectual, not emotional helter skelter…
JW/DW insists on a higher level of decorum because it is a learning center, not a vomitorium…If vomiting is your problem, see a Doctor, or go to Yahoo chat…
Johnson is at it again; see this page at Jihad Watch (sorry if this is old news):
http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/023403.php#comments
Charles Johnson hits bottom, digs (Part 2)
This was posted at Jihad Watch:
Little Green Footballs Cribs Story Tundra Tabloids Broke On Monday…….
They say that Johnson used a story from their site and did not credit them.
Bar, you quoted a reply to the comment on LGF that got ME banned (and my original comment was deleted).
So I deleted LGF from my bookmarks and will never visit it again.
I can understand CHrles desire not to be associated with nazis. I don’t think that anyone who defends human rights wants to be part of the nazi bunch. However, Charles should know to make a distinction between who are the nazis and who are not.
I don’t see how can anyone be against Robert Spencer in the war against islamization.
Brettmcs
Its incredible that comment got you banned.
According to a poster called “ec marm” (who posted here not too long ago with unhappy results), in a thread at Jihad Watch (here) wrote:
—[BEGIN POST AT JW BY EC MARM]—
The purge continues:
—[BEGIN CHARLES JOHNSON POST]–
13 Charles 11/08/08 8:46:10 am
Meanwhile, at the end of the Friday open thread, someone posted a link to an article at WorldNetDaily by a white nationalist.
That person has been banned, and WorldNetDaily is now banned from our spinoff links.
–[END JOHNSON POST]—
I have the feeling that sooner or later, Charles Johnson is going to find himself in a courtroom having to defend his libelous claims. It’s almost like watching a train wreck in slow-motion.
I’d like to hear what Alan Keyes, who is also a contributor to WND, has to say.
—–[END POST BY EC MARM AT JW]—
So now WND are Nazi racist skin heads too???
Rainy Day,
I’ve known ec marm for a long time. Back in the day when LGF was a free-for-all.
Charles has clearly lost it. I just read today about his post regarding Spencer and Facebook.
Robert Spencer has my deepest respect. Johnson used to have some respect but that’s long since gone. Keep Spencer and his work in your prayers.
I agree wholeheartedly, Paul.
Paul, Im looking at the LGF thread about that, and its Sharmuta all the damn time.
Whore!