Welcome LGFers

It seems that Charles just now became aware of my blog. I dont know what took him so long. But his notice and mention of me has caused me a lot of traffic. I think this is wonderful!

It seems that he has forgotten the history of what happened though. It seems he is denying the real reason he canceled my account. The only real reason which makes sense is that he thought I was an ID theory supporter. That and I am also a friend with another person he had banned and on several occasions I asked Charles to forgive my friend.

He claims that I made a racist post which is simply not true. What I did post exposed racism from Obama supporters. The story which I told is recounted on my site @ http://lgfsucks.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/my-experience-in-the-grocery-store/ . The fact is that LGF has carried comments which were much more offensive than what I wrote.

What had come to bother me was Charles continual running of science articles which caused many to come out and claim that the world was a random occurance and not the act of creation. I do not support teaching this in school but I do believe that there is reason to question the theory of evolution. It is this comment made by Charles which I read shortly after he had banned me which read “muman was an ID theory supporter” which justified his harsh treatment of me.

I miss many LGF lounge lizards. I loved to chat with Kirly and MiguelInMexico and OE and yochannon. Anyone reading my blog who talks with them, please tell them to drop me a comment.

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21 Responses to “Welcome LGFers”
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  1. 1 | July 13, 2008 4:26 pm

    Oh hey muman! I saw your blog in the wordpress dashboard.

    I don’t remember you venturing out of the lounge too much, so maybe he thought you were a nooB or a moby?

    Anyway, I’m not sure what inspired his latest kick with ID and evolution. Perhaps he thought it would create some nice drama in the comments section, since there was probably nothing but sycophants in there these days. I think he’s got some sort of a god complex, and delights on being able to conform people and have them walk on eggshells. Don’t ding me! Screw that.

    See you around!


  2. muman613
    2 | July 13, 2008 5:52 pm

    BTW,

    I am not saying I dont support science and the study of nature. I work in the computer science field and have no problem with the advancement of technology. I am fully aware of Hashems presence in all of creation, even the creation of software.


  3. Spytalk
    3 | July 14, 2008 10:17 pm

    For the record, the guy that runs LGF publicly posted to everyone this evening how many comments I’ve ever made there (about 14) and who knows what else of my lgf site information (maybe some of it is public anyway – don’t know) – I just don’t feel like visiting that site anymore. I read the site for many years. For a blog operator to do that out of a visitor wanting to just state or post that carbon dating is not accurate in a few paragraphs w/o pages and pages of ‘details’ that his cronies claim I’m omitting – the guy has to be an atheist at heart to react like that (among other attitudes he’s displayed on his own blog), he’s just been semi-hiding it all this time. There are thousands of strongly anti-faith pro-evolution people on that site – who think that evolution is above debate or reproach – that in itself is a very direct violation of scientific principle. Thanks for the lgfsucks blog.


  4. 4 | July 14, 2008 10:35 pm

    You need to keep this blog more up to date ;)


  5. KosherNostra
    5 | July 15, 2008 3:26 pm

    Hi Muman! So sorry to hear you were banned…

    I see that this was not exclusively a Christian problem…he claims it is a Christian problem…

    Other atheists have presented the Creation Evolution as an exclusive fundamentalist Christian problem…

    But no one pays attention that Orthodox Jews would have problem with that…

    It is only after reading Dr Gerald Schroeder of Jerusalem, an Orthodox Jewish scientist, that I was encouraged to get into the creation evolution debate…

    I have a degree in advanced sciences including Biological and Physiological sciences and I am a follower of Hashem and I totally accept the Genesis account. Jewish tradition accepts the testimony of witnesses when there is two or more. Well, the witness of the Creator is worth far more than the two human witnesses.

    My usual LGF nick can be surmised from the email that I posted for your eyes only and not published….

    Wanted some anonymity until I am ready to be exposed…


  6. trajan75
    6 | July 16, 2008 5:15 pm

    Muman,
    Charles is a little cry baby. He’s a liar and a fraud. Wait until my site comes out knocking him!


  7. Deb
    7 | July 16, 2008 5:40 pm

    I love your website.
    You have always had a lot of interesting ideas, humor, energy and much to offer.
    We should thank Charles and G*D for this gift.
    He can have the little green ones.


  8. KosherNostra
    8 | July 17, 2008 12:37 pm

    I passed the info to Kirly that you desire to chat with her! I gave her your link…on her blog! She has her own blog, did you know that?


  9. muman613
    9 | July 17, 2008 4:12 pm

    Hi,

    Yes I found a link to her blog and posted something there earlier in the week. I currently run an IRC server and if some of my friends would like to chat I could set them up to access my chat server.

    muman613


  10. argylesock
    10 | July 19, 2008 12:38 am

    I just left a post in another blog page here, the other one about LGF.

    #5. KosherNostra wrote:

    “But no one pays attention that Orthodox Jews would have problem with that…”

    *I* have wondered about that. I also hinted about it in some posts at LGF (I let Charles know in a round-about way that some of his JEWISH readers might also find the bashing of a literal interpretation of Genesis offensive.)

    I’m a Christian of the Non Roman Catholic variety, and I figured that there must be some Jews at that blog who would be just as turned off by Charles’ Darwinist obsession (or at least his disrespectful attitude towards its opponents) as were the Christians.

    I am aware that there are some Jews who don’t take the creation account in Genesis literally, but I figured there had to be some who did.

    It’s strange to me that a blog owner who appears to go out of his way to be sensitive towards Jewish readers would then turn around and mock one of their (our) beliefs.

    Someone at another blog (avideditor.wordpress.com) said that in one post, Charles compared Christian I.D. supporters to Islamic Jihadis! (The person also gave the link to the post in which it was said.)

    Um, last time I checked, Christians were not flying planes into buildings or strapping bombs to children.

    Some people in the past who called themselves Christian did or wrote terrible things, but by and large, you just don’t see people these days doing stuff such as hi-jacking planes, shooting the pilots, and screaming, “Praise be to Jesus Christ!”

    You wrote,
    “It is this comment made by Charles which I read shortly after he had banned me which read “muman was an ID theory supporter” which justified his harsh treatment of me.”

    So Charles is banning people simply for disagreeing with his views? If so, that is awful.

    I thought evolution supporters prided themselves in being open-minded and interested in truth, but here they are banning dissenters? That’s hypocritical.

    You wrote,
    “What had come to bother me was Charles continual running of science articles which caused many to come out and claim that the world was a random occurance and not the act of creation.”

    You know, it doesn’t bother me that he likes evolution.

    It might not even bother me that he posts the *occasional* pro-evolution or anti- Intelligent Design blog page.

    What I cannot tolerate is the *fixation* on the topic, and the fact that he is sometimes rude about it when he does bring it up.

    #1 ChenZen said,
    “I think he’s got some sort of a god complex, and delights on being able to conform people and have them walk on eggshells. ”

    I solve it by staying away from the blog altogether. :o )

    #2, you said,
    “I am not saying I dont support science and the study of nature.”

    That doesn’t matter to evolutionists since they are so narrow minded and prejudiced.

    Many of them love to automatically depict any who disagree with their precious Darwinist fairy tale as being anti-science or as being simpletons, even though neither characterization is true.

    You could have phD’s out the wazoo, have had millions of articles published in scientific journals, etc. etc., and they’d *still* portray you as a knuckle-dragging dunce.

    As I said in the other post, evolution is their security blanket, and without it, they’re very frightened.

    They are too scared to accept the fact that there are college educated, intelligent individuals who do not buy into evolution.

    It’s much easier for them to live in a fantasy where everything is in black and white terms: all who believe in evolution are rational, intelligent beings, and all who accept intelligent design are stupid hayseeds.


  11. KosherNostra
    11 | July 21, 2008 4:26 pm

    “Even with DNA sequence data, we have no direct access to the processes of
    evolution, so objective reconstruction of the vanished past can be achieved only by creative imagination.” (N. A. Takahata, “Genetic Perspective on the Origin and History of Humans”, Annual Review of Ecology and Systematics , Vol. 26, ( 1995 ), p. 343)

    Hat tip to another former LGFer…


  12. KosherNostra
    12 | July 21, 2008 4:36 pm

    I thought I would post this from Wikipedia:

    Torah MiTzion is a religious Zionist movement in Israel that promotes Torah study together with service in the Israel Defense Forces (IDF). The organization operates a yeshiva in Jerusalem where soldiers in the IDF can study Torah. According to Torah MiTzion, the study of evolution itself does not present a conflict with Jewish Law:

    If biology is so prized a discipline, then so must be evolution — a central pillar of the life sciences. It is indisputable that organisms adapt to the environment via natural selection, as is evident for instance, by the development of antibiotic-resistant bacteria and antiretroviral-resistant HIV. Further indisputable is the fact that the same DNA which encodes the blueprint for simple organisms also encodes the blueprint for higher organisms (including human beings) with exquisitely minor variations, demonstrating that evolution need not be limited to microbes. Hence, one might expect on the basis of the foregoing that Halacha would welcome the study of evolution with open arms.[8]

    Torah MiTzion resolves this conflict between Feinstein’s responsa on evolution and the observations of science by distinguishing between “evolution that we can observe” and “evolutionary history.” Its resolution of the matter allows for the study of evolution as a science, but forbids its use to “extrapolate backwards in time” to speculate on matters of creation:

    Evolution that we can observe and measure with our senses is certainly part of the science curriculum that ought to be encouraged. But to extrapolate backwards in time on the basis of circumstantial evidence to so absurd an extent as to supplant the account of the creation of life given by the Torah with that of unverifiable human speculation is not a question of science but rather a revision of history.[8]


  13. KosherNostra
    13 | July 21, 2008 4:40 pm

    This is more extreme Jewish position:

    [edit] Moshe Feinstein
    Rabbi Moshe Feinstein (1895-1986), a Haredi posek who was known for his opposition to evolution, was one of the most famed Orthodox rabbis and decisors of Jewish Law for the ultra-Orthodox community. Rabbi Feinstein ruled that the reading of an evolutionary textbook is unequivocally forbidden, because belief in evolutionary history is tantamount to apikorsus (Hebrew, heresy). If a textbook was indispensable for other purposes, Feinstein directed that those pages containing references to evolution be torn out and discarded.[7]


  14. 14 | July 22, 2008 10:01 am

    Post #12. Sounds like the commentator was distinguishing between MICRO evolution and MACRO evolution, which is as it should be.

    I don’t know of anyone (at least among Christian) believers in Intelligent Design, Creationism / Young Earth who rejects MICRO evolution.

    The problem is some Darwinists (the secular ones, the atheists) will be intellectually dishonest and not distinguish between the two positions when discussing their opponents.

    There’s even a difference between Intelligent Design advocates and Biblical Creationists, and I don’t think that Charles at LGF (and many other Darwinists) know that there is one.

    Or, if they do, they’re being dishonest and not making it clear to their readers.

    There are some Christians who do not interpret the Creation story in Genesis literally.

    Some of these Christians believe in “theistic evolution,” and say that the word “day” as used in the six days of Genesis really represent millions of years.


  15. bar
    15 | July 24, 2008 2:05 pm

    Little Green Footballs Fumbles the Ball by Making False Claims about Discovery Institute, Islam, and Intelligent Design

    http://www.evolutionnews.org/2008/07/little_green_footballs_fumbles.html


  16. 16 | July 27, 2008 1:40 am

    Does anyone else find it strange that Charles hasn’t responded to the comment above?


  17. 17 | July 27, 2008 1:40 am

    I mean the article in that comment.


  18. bar
    18 | July 27, 2008 1:53 pm

    avideditor

    Not really, its par for the Charles Johnson course and his hate site, which is nothing but smear and hide, smear and hide.

    Its what pseudo-conservatives do best.


  19. bar
    19 | July 28, 2008 2:24 pm

    avideditor

    I think Queeg heard you.

    http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/30773_When_Disco_Dudes_Attack

    It takes a strawman to know one!


  20. 20 | July 28, 2008 3:33 pm

    who is Queeg?


  21. bar
    21 | July 30, 2008 7:05 am

    Queeg is a nickname given to Charles by this site.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Captain_Queeg

    http://onecosmos.blogspot.com/


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